i think penders or another archie writer used that name already so it might be copyrighted. not positive since there was also an offpanel gag about the name
I feel that Metal Sonic leading his own gang of robot doubles would actually be fun. Imagine them being counterparts to many characters. * Metal Knuckles being a Boom!Knuckles but evil and a robot. * Metal Tails being an insufferable genius that lets you know that he can predict your moves * Metal Amy taking from Rosy the Rascal but being undyingly loyal to Metal Sonic * Metal Espio being an annoyingly talkative loon. * Metal Shadow being a Vegeta clone if Sega decided to stop trying to make Shadow a Vegeta-clone.
I think instead of metal tails, it would be tails doll, as that’s pretty much what he is outside of the comics. Other than that, it sounds perfect Edit: Also, Tails Doll is grouped with metal sonic and knuckles I would say, as he is there in sonic r with metal sonic and the, at the time, new metal knuckles, while there is no metal tails
Now I get it, that Shadow is metal shadow and it was different because the others are androids not metals. And that's why he is a vegeta clone. Now this is canon. Yuki naka is my neighbor
@@fun-epersonnproductions4002 Long story, but I guess the short version is, I'm on my knees about to short circuit, and I see that rodent coming for me, when all of a sudden my little brother Metal teleports in, grabs me, and we teleport somewhere else.
Yeah I was thinking that the whole time. It looks like if you go anywhere near them you’d cut yourself. If he does make a comeback I hope those dreads stay sharp and look like sheet metal, it would really emphasize *metal* knuckles. Like maybe they’re just hastily thrown together shielding for his air jet dread vents, like robotnik started out with soft tubes and realized they’d get cut or torn so he just threw some flexible sheet metal as protection.
Maybe if he comes back, theyd be like that hat that has the strings and beads that are used to keep bugs away by shaking your head but instead of smacking the bugs it cuts them apart cuz its covered in blades
I wish cool designs like this got used more. I feel bad for how little footage & comic panels you were able to reference. I do disagree about what you said about wishing the Sega had as good of a relationship with the American comics, since they just commissioned Evan Stanley to draw artwork for this earlier this week! They seem pretty even in that aspect.
You are absolutely right, and I do wish I just left that sassy line out. I was still in the mindset of how much love the STC team seemed to have with their time on their book as opposed to the drama drummed up with Penders.
@@GameApologist I would argue there was as much love from Archie throughout it's many years, at least from the team making the book. Flynn's rise into Sonic comic maestro was an excellent one, and as a very old fan of the Archie's, I still love much of Penders' time with it, nutcase though he is and as insane as the comic was at the time. I do think you're right in that Sega, particularly in Japan, would like to just forget anything and everything to do with the Archie series after the Penders debacle, and so the book will get no further love or remembrance from Sega in future, which is a sad fate for such a long running(and for my childhood, important) part of the overall franchise.
His brief appearance in the 30th anniversary IDW comic was a real treat. He had the segmented locks, chest vent, anything a Metal Knuckles fan could ask for.
I think that complaint you had about him being “too tall” in the comics is the result of one Steven Butler, probably one of my, I’m sorry to say, least favorite artists from the Sonic comics. He would always draw the Sonic characters far, FAR too much like, well, traditional “furries” rather than the sleek cartoony almost-bordering-on-chibi style that Sonic characters were supposed to have. Everyone would always look way too tall, stiff, and just too close to actual human anatomy when Butler was the penciler. It was always so jarring going from Tracy’s nigh-on perfectly emulated Sonic style of drawing over to Butler’s “Sonic is in GIJoe’s world now” style. And as you can see, that even went into when he would draw robots too..
Never could get into his art style. Like you said it's always looked incredibly stiff. And while his lightning is okay the weird skinny humanoid designs with 3x bigger pupils and weird facial expressions never vibed with me. Glad to see Tracey Yardley is still doing art for IDW though and getting better, as I've always enjoyed his art near the end of Archie Sonic.
Not gonna lie metal knuckles is one of my favorite sonic characters and I though you weren’t going to cover him since he was only in Sonic R and the sonic comics heck I’ve been telling one of my younger friends ALL about sonic and I can’t wait to tell him is favorite character has a metal variant that looks cool as frick
Looking at the old designs it almost seems like his locks would be some kind of specialized airfoil to increase his flight efficiency to allow gliding. But with the design from the UK artist it looks like maybe little mini-thrusters for fine-tuned movement, like on a spacecraft.
I always imagined Metal Knuckles as being sort of like an ICBM... really fast in a straight line, can fly super high, but not super maneuverable outside of that. Maybe he would have a spinning-drill attack similar to Knuckles' digging, but with a forcefield like Eggman's drills as the first boss of SA1. The dreads could have jets, and they angle themselves into a spiral shape to make him spin.
While Sonic Heroes is faaaaar from my favorite Sonic game, it really drilled into me the Speed-Flying-Power team structure, so as a kid I desperately tried to fit every Sonic character into this model. The franchise indulged me a fair bit, with the Babylon Rogues in Sonic Riders, Team Hooligan in the comics. Hell, that last one is especially satisfying since it grouped together previously loose characters, and I applied the same logic to making Team Chaotix-B with Mighty, Ray, and a Heavy/Bomb combo. So when my sweaty preteen self got his hands on Sonic Gems Collection, and I got to play games I'd only ever heard of in whispers on the early internet, Sonic R was a treat specifically for Metal Knuckles (at some point I headcanoned it that his name was Mecha Knuckles) and Tails Doll, who gave Metal Sonic his own team.
I felt that way about the Tails Doll, so I can sympathize with that feeling. I didn't really care for MK, but your sheer enthusiasm for him(it?) makes me want him return just to make people like us happy.
@@justforlaugh1014 how do you forget eggman existed. I mean he doesnt fit in that mess of characters! right?! So how can you forget he existed if he is the thing that is the only thing that DIDNT FIT IN THE FRANCHISE WHY DOES NOONE CARE A OUT EGGMAN AAAHHHHHHH (epic gamer rage)
@@zombos_9989 He’s saying that Eggman forgot about Metal Knuckles. Also, who is forgetting about Eggman? What is the point of having a bot to remind people about the MAIN VILLAIN of the franchise?
The fans: We love this series because we can make huge essays about side characters and little details that we love and live for SEGA: The characters aren't sonic, they don't matter and won't make us money, we shouldn't take the risk
@@Magitek1112 same, I mildly dislike that part of the fanbase A lot of his friends bring new playstyles to the table and actually add a lot to the story and plot
Jakks Pacific loves Sonic's stupid friends because they have a wide range of characters to make figures of. The Sonic Adventure cast is almost complete with Tikal, Froggy, Gamma, Beta and the rest of the E-100s the last pieces needed. Similarly for Heroes, we're only missing Cheese and Chocola plus a Heroes Rouge. Adventure 2 is only really missing the mechs, a SA2 Rouge and a Soap Shoes Sonic. Besides some absent characters like Gmeral and missing varients like Extreme Gear Team Sonic to go with the Babylon Rogues, most of the cast are represented and it's glorious. A toy company realised the expansive cast is a big moneymaker and we're up to Wave 17 for the 4 inch and 2.5 inch lines. Lasting longer than Toybiz's Marvel Legends run and if the line continues for a few more years, they'll overtake Jakks' former Classic Wrestling Superstars line.
That Richard Elson artwork made me so happy. Not just seeing all these characters back, but seeing a brand new piece of artwork from one of my favourite artists.
Man, I'd love to see more of Metal Knux. I always loved seeing him in Sonic R and racing against him and the robots. And man, I wanna see some design sheets and concept art for this boy, show us the full vision they had for him beyond the polygons.
I mean as there are no less than 5 different Metal Sonic's in the games alone would a Metal Sonic video properly also just balloon out to a ridicules length.
To be fair, it was bigger than you might expect and expanding faster back then, than it has in post-Dreamcast games. The problem is most of the side cast have little to no staying power, so new characters keep trickling in every couple of games.
By the time Sonic R game dropped, Sonic had an extensive cast outside of the games from the two DiC cartoons to the two ongoing comics and miscellaneous media; a lot of whom we know little about until the widespread use of the Internet. Did you know we had an echidna character by the name Eric who debuted in a Virgin Book prior to Knuckles' creation? Like Doctor Who, you'd be surprised at how long it took to have the familiar cast of characters that you think of instinctively. Silver, Blaze and the Babylon Rogues were relatively late additions compared to mainstays like Metal Sonic and Espio.
Metal Knuckles was my absolute favorite character for a while when I was a kid. I don't know why, but he was, and it's a shame that he's only ever had one appearance
Not sure if this will help, but there’s a mod out there for Sonic 3 A.I.R. that replaces the sprites of the Knuckles boss with Metal Knuckles ones when you play as Knuckles himself, which is *genius* to be honest since it keeps that level intact without having the weird though of Knuckles fighting himself.
As a dude who sucks at mechanical designs, I LOVE MECHANICAL DESIGNS!!! I'm so excited for this and I'm so happy we started off with Metal Knuckles. Totally agreed with the plated armor idea you threw out, might try making my own robo hotrod.
I have a special relationship with Metal Knuckles, I've made several custom action figures of him over the years, in his game accurate classic form, comic accurate modern form, and even a couple of the doppelganger form from Sonic Advance. I think my favorite was from one little boy who wanted a Metal Knuckles figure for Christmas, and when his mother tried to tell him that it wasn't a thing he showed her google images of some of my older ones (I don't think he realized they were just customs at the time) and said if it was possible to make one then "Santa" could certainly pull it off. So of course I managed to make him one in time (his mother sent me a Knuckles figure to modify,) I even made those big square arm shields in tinkercad so I could print them out and make it look more accurate.
I'm so glad that I'm not the only one who loved this design. Maybe if lots of fans bring attention to it, we can have a hope to see our boi back in games, even as a cameo. ...Or day I say a Sonic R remake?
Concept: A Knuckles spin-off game where he actually teams up with Metal Knuckles after finding him decommissioned by Eggman for a co-op adventure game. Eggman stole the Master Emerald or something and Knuckles is going to go after him to get it back, so Metal Knuckles, whom was found by his organic counterpart lying lifeless someplace covered in moss and the like, aids him not only to retrieve the Master Emerald, but also to get his own revenge on the doctor who destroyed his potential. Maybe make a bitter rivalry between Metal Knuckles and Metal Sonic cuz the robot hedgehog achieved what he wished he had. Perhaps as well at the end of the game, Eggman offers Metal Knuckles a place back at the Eggman Empire after seeing his potential, but Metal Knuckles just leaves and becomes a recurring rogue villain throughout the series. Just an idea I had, but loved your video! Glad to see some love for one of my favourite Sonic characters to date :)
Metal Knuckles was the main reason I even wanted Sonic R. I thought it was an insanely awesome idea and had thought they might have put in some story or something back then. I absolutely agree with you about the Knuckles design from R being the best. I did love Adventure's Silver Sonic, though. I think it's crazy accurate lol. Again, thanks a million for all your hard work. I didn't notice any sound quality issues, but that's just me lol.
I'm proud to have gone to high school with you Nick. I've always found you really talented and inspiring. I view your channel often because it gives me the confidence to build my own. Thanks brother. Keep it up. Love the new ad work you're doing btw. That AD for Surfshark came off really smooth.
I've always liked it. The music's a jam, and I just find it really relaxing to play. I even like the sound effects of the feet (and doesn't it make more sense to have Sonic characters running, not driving cars?). I enjoy the stages- I remember as a kid I always liked putting it in practice mode or the balloon one or something and just exploring the stages. Even though once Super Sonic is out, he's the only way to win, I still enjoy it. I really don't understand the hate it gets.
I find it incredible. Y'know, I'm 27 years old, and these videos have awaken the Sonic fanboy that's been dormant inside of me for more than 10 YEARS. For real, I haven't touched a Sonic game since the early 2000s (not counting Mania, which I did play). I feel like a child again.
Personally the one-pieced dreads is one of my favorite parts of Metal Knuckles’s design, since it’s in tone with Metal Sonic’s head and quills being one object. But the concept of the dreads being separate from Metal Knuckles’s head sounds good too, although that feels like more of a Mecha Knuckles thing, since Mecha Sonic has quills that are more than one piece. At this point, I just want to see Metal Knuckles in canon again, or at least another form of a robotic Knuckles other than just some pallet swap.
Interesting, I wonder why they seemed to change Metal Knuckles design so much throughout the years in comics or games when a design already existed? But at least he gets referenced at some points in time.
Metal Knuckles was always awesome. I did love our Metalix version in STC too though. The Silver Sonic in Adventure is Silver Sonic from Death Egg in Sonic 2 by the way. Finally, my daughter and I love your videos chap! She asked me to write this! Please keep making them!
I wonder why I felt compelled to see this video again today...on Sonic's 30th Anniversary. It's a special occasion, but for some reason, I really wanted a refresher on this one-shot character.
I think the think that works best about Metal Knuckles is the simplicity of the design. It matches the look of all the other badniks, and more specifically, metal Sonic himself. Also how dare Ian Flynn use a metallic tails design and not use the tails doll design. Shame on you, Mr Ian.
At least tails doll is remember fondly till this day and is the poster boy for Creepypastas right next to Sonic EXE, meanwhile when was the last time you hear somebody talking about Metal Knuckles
Every time you do a video like this and you talk about something you wanted to see Sega do, I wonder how on earth you’re reading my mind! Awesome video!
What if the dreads on metal knuckles could combine together to make a shield? Maybe even make it so the dreads could move around so they can shield stuff they usually wouldn’t be able to?
I've been saying this exact thing for YEARS dude. There's so much missed potential with older characters that they aren't utilizing! You are my messiah sir, and I support you wholeheartedly.
Your passion for Sonic R's Metal Knuckles made me just as in love with the design as you are, probably less so, but close enough. When I draw Metal/Mecha Knuckles this May, I am going to use that Sonic R design. I will see if I can bring this silly ass boy some justice.
Crazy how just a few years ago we didn’t even have a proper look at his design and now he’s been brought back in the comics, was in a mainline game, finally got his sonic r artwork released, and even has a goddamn funko pop.
i actually really liked Silver Sonic MK2 in sonic adventure xD Though hes just a cool little throw away robot there, he was a pretty sweet character in the archie comics! Great video as usual dude, well worth the wait! :D
The dreadlocks should definitely be jet vents to help him glide and potentially shoot projectiles from in offense. What a great character I never heard of before today!!
I'd love to see Metal Knuckles making a comeback in the series, but given how they've been handling the franchise I don't think we will. Knuckles never got the attention he deserved since Adventure 1. Dark Brotherhood attempted to flesh it out a bit, but...
I always assumed that Metal Knuckles' dreads were made up of plates with hinges that connected each section, hence why the R model's dreads have a jagged look to them in comparison to Knuckles' smooth curves.
Well about Metal Knuckles bos fight. There is boss fight with him in fan game called ,,Sonic 3D in 2D" which is full of great refs to Sonic series making Classic feel like connected to Adventure games
I thought you'd mention Metal Knuckles being the second best character in Sonic R. Depending on how good or bad you ...R, you might even need Super Sonic to win the Metal Knuckles unlock race!
Not calling him Brass Knuckles will forever be one of the biggest missed opportunities in the series
YOUR BRAIN
FINALLY! Someone who has half a brain-cell! I'm not the only one who thinks it's a great name for him!
You are a genius. That is all.
we got two brass knuckles in archie
The power emitting from your mind is terrifying. You genius
"I'm just going out for some milk, I'll be right back with Sonic X-treme! Just you wait!"
That killed me lmao
That joke was brilliant
‘NO DADDYYYYYYYYYY’
Okay but if he comes back can we start calling him "brass knuckles"
Underrated comment right here
YES
i think penders or another archie writer used that name already so it might be copyrighted. not positive since there was also an offpanel gag about the name
I want brass knuckles
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I feel that Metal Sonic leading his own gang of robot doubles would actually be fun. Imagine them being counterparts to many characters.
* Metal Knuckles being a Boom!Knuckles but evil and a robot.
* Metal Tails being an insufferable genius that lets you know that he can predict your moves
* Metal Amy taking from Rosy the Rascal but being undyingly loyal to Metal Sonic
* Metal Espio being an annoyingly talkative loon.
* Metal Shadow being a Vegeta clone if Sega decided to stop trying to make Shadow a Vegeta-clone.
Cool
I think instead of metal tails, it would be tails doll, as that’s pretty much what he is outside of the comics. Other than that, it sounds perfect
Edit: Also, Tails Doll is grouped with metal sonic and knuckles I would say, as he is there in sonic r with metal sonic and the, at the time, new metal knuckles, while there is no metal tails
Metal Sonic: the quiet one who secretly cares for all of them like a family but try hard not to show it.
Now I get it, that Shadow is metal shadow and it was different because the others are androids not metals. And that's why he is a vegeta clone. Now this is canon. Yuki naka is my neighbor
@@matteosignor4256 this makes more sense if disconsider shadow game as canon
Mecha March Madness,huh? I think I'll like this Metallic month.
XD
How did you survive Knuckles?
Well you are Mecha Sonic so ofc you would love some Mecha Hogs in Mech March Madness with these Magnificent Machines of the Month
@@fun-epersonnproductions4002 Long story, but I guess the short version is, I'm on my knees about to short circuit, and I see that rodent coming for me, when all of a sudden my little brother Metal teleports in, grabs me, and we teleport somewhere else.
@@DaynNight1234 Don't make fun, meat bag.
I always imagined Metal Knuckle's dreads as being one piece of flexible sheet metal.
Yeah I was thinking that the whole time. It looks like if you go anywhere near them you’d cut yourself. If he does make a comeback I hope those dreads stay sharp and look like sheet metal, it would really emphasize *metal* knuckles. Like maybe they’re just hastily thrown together shielding for his air jet dread vents, like robotnik started out with soft tubes and realized they’d get cut or torn so he just threw some flexible sheet metal as protection.
Maybe if he comes back, theyd be like that hat that has the strings and beads that are used to keep bugs away by shaking your head but instead of smacking the bugs it cuts them apart cuz its covered in blades
imagine how cool they'd look flying (or gliding) in the air!??
I WISH- we could've gotten more of these types of characters.
he probably uses them as weapons
I thought the ex sac t same thing.
Alternative tittle : Game Apologest rants about how Metal Knuckles deserves more attention for almost 20 minutes
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Nice grammar
@@Blankult Thanks!
@@Helicopter7 ?
@@Helicopter7 and by doing that metal knuckles get more attention
I wish cool designs like this got used more. I feel bad for how little footage & comic panels you were able to reference. I do disagree about what you said about wishing the Sega had as good of a relationship with the American comics, since they just commissioned Evan Stanley to draw artwork for this earlier this week! They seem pretty even in that aspect.
You are absolutely right, and I do wish I just left that sassy line out. I was still in the mindset of how much love the STC team seemed to have with their time on their book as opposed to the drama drummed up with Penders.
Damn Straight
@@GameApologist I would argue there was as much love from Archie throughout it's many years, at least from the team making the book. Flynn's rise into Sonic comic maestro was an excellent one, and as a very old fan of the Archie's, I still love much of Penders' time with it, nutcase though he is and as insane as the comic was at the time.
I do think you're right in that Sega, particularly in Japan, would like to just forget anything and everything to do with the Archie series after the Penders debacle, and so the book will get no further love or remembrance from Sega in future, which is a sad fate for such a long running(and for my childhood, important) part of the overall franchise.
@@GameApologist two legends in one place
Agreed
Next video: "The inner turmoil of motobug."
"The Underappreciated BRILLIANCE of Coconuts"
"The mourning origins of jaws"
The illusive background of the crabmeats.
the missing trail of splats
The bullshit of the death egg
His brief appearance in the 30th anniversary IDW comic was a real treat. He had the segmented locks, chest vent, anything a Metal Knuckles fan could ask for.
Ian Flynn is a national treasure. He manages to sneak in the deepest cuts from series lore without it ever feeling forced.
When you get the Discord ping telling you the video you’re watching is out: “I’m four -parallel universes- minutes ahead of you.”
Sonic R: The holy grail of obscure/forgotten Sonic characters
Not really, Tails Doll isn’t that obscure
@@theminecraft2516Only due to multiple edgy crappypastas.
@@PuffyBuffy25 What is your point?
@@theminecraft2516 Its sadly known only for the wrong reasons.
In about 5 more years, Archie Sonic will become the main source of obscure/forgotten Sonic characters.
"I'm just going out for some milk. I'll be right back with Sonic X-treme. Just you wait."
You really had to go there, huh? XD
"the most underutilized sonic character ever"
the entire hooligan gang: first time?
The fact that you know them as the Hooligans is already more recognition. That team dynamic didn't exist until this last decade or so.
Battle Kukku empire, Babylon Rogues, SCR series, Nocturne Clan, Tikal, Black Arms, Storybook characters, Metarex, Dark Sonic, Vanilla, Emerl, Gemerl: First time?
@@GameApologist hi game apologist I know you are busy but I would like to have a conversation with you
@@zombos_9989 Dunno how to put it inoffensively, but the Discord link is right in the description.
I think that complaint you had about him being “too tall” in the comics is the result of one Steven Butler, probably one of my, I’m sorry to say, least favorite artists from the Sonic comics. He would always draw the Sonic characters far, FAR too much like, well, traditional “furries” rather than the sleek cartoony almost-bordering-on-chibi style that Sonic characters were supposed to have. Everyone would always look way too tall, stiff, and just too close to actual human anatomy when Butler was the penciler. It was always so jarring going from Tracy’s nigh-on perfectly emulated Sonic style of drawing over to Butler’s “Sonic is in GIJoe’s world now” style. And as you can see, that even went into when he would draw robots too..
Nyeeeeh it's ok
Never could get into his art style. Like you said it's always looked incredibly stiff. And while his lightning is okay the weird skinny humanoid designs with 3x bigger pupils and weird facial expressions never vibed with me. Glad to see Tracey Yardley is still doing art for IDW though and getting better, as I've always enjoyed his art near the end of Archie Sonic.
Not gonna lie metal knuckles is one of my favorite sonic characters and I though you weren’t going to cover him since he was only in Sonic R and the sonic comics heck I’ve been telling one of my younger friends ALL about sonic and I can’t wait to tell him is favorite character has a metal variant that looks cool as frick
Well then do you think that an eggman episode would be a great episode and I can tell you why if you dont think so
@@zombos_9989 eggman episode would be so great
Any attention at this point man, we just need to see our boi at least 1 more time
Looking at the old designs it almost seems like his locks would be some kind of specialized airfoil to increase his flight efficiency to allow gliding. But with the design from the UK artist it looks like maybe little mini-thrusters for fine-tuned movement, like on a spacecraft.
It would be so great to see metal sonic, metal knuckles and tails doll reunite as a team again in a future game.
I always imagined Metal Knuckles as being sort of like an ICBM... really fast in a straight line, can fly super high, but not super maneuverable outside of that. Maybe he would have a spinning-drill attack similar to Knuckles' digging, but with a forcefield like Eggman's drills as the first boss of SA1. The dreads could have jets, and they angle themselves into a spiral shape to make him spin.
I hope that at some point, someone on the casting couch has said "here I come. Harder than Knuckles."
While Sonic Heroes is faaaaar from my favorite Sonic game, it really drilled into me the Speed-Flying-Power team structure, so as a kid I desperately tried to fit every Sonic character into this model. The franchise indulged me a fair bit, with the Babylon Rogues in Sonic Riders, Team Hooligan in the comics. Hell, that last one is especially satisfying since it grouped together previously loose characters, and I applied the same logic to making Team Chaotix-B with Mighty, Ray, and a Heavy/Bomb combo.
So when my sweaty preteen self got his hands on Sonic Gems Collection, and I got to play games I'd only ever heard of in whispers on the early internet, Sonic R was a treat specifically for Metal Knuckles (at some point I headcanoned it that his name was Mecha Knuckles) and Tails Doll, who gave Metal Sonic his own team.
I felt that way about the Tails Doll, so I can sympathize with that feeling. I didn't really care for MK, but your sheer enthusiasm for him(it?) makes me want him return just to make people like us happy.
I love Metal Knuckles, and I was sad that he never appeared again (not counting comics). Alas, he lives on in mods, specifically SRB2 Mods.
We've got the whole metal team in there, Metal Sonic, Tails Doll, Metal Knuckles, and ofcourse, Maimy!
What is SRB2
@@hive2444 Look it up.
@@hive2444 Sonic Robo Blast 2, I think.
@@kaxcommentssomethingREALmaimy isnt a official characters
I completely forgot Metal Knuckles even existed
So did Eggman
I didn't. In fact, Metal Knuckles is so damn cool.
@@justforlaugh1014 how do you forget eggman existed. I mean he doesnt fit in that mess of characters! right?! So how can you forget he existed if he is the thing that is the only thing that DIDNT FIT IN THE FRANCHISE WHY DOES NOONE CARE A OUT EGGMAN AAAHHHHHHH (epic gamer rage)
@@tiruliru1189 what about eggman did you forget him did you DID YOU YOU?!
@@zombos_9989 He’s saying that Eggman forgot about Metal Knuckles. Also, who is forgetting about Eggman? What is the point of having a bot to remind people about the MAIN VILLAIN of the franchise?
I can only imagine you running out agent stone style yelling "HE'S BACK!!!!" when Sonic Superstars resurrected this entity alongside the tails doll.
They could've called him Brass Knuckles!
Pewter knuckles
mecha knuckles is going to appear during Scrapnik Island, so there's that, i guess.
The fans: We love this series because we can make huge essays about side characters and little details that we love and live for
SEGA: The characters aren't sonic, they don't matter and won't make us money, we shouldn't take the risk
The problem is probably *those* vocal people that are like "Sonic's friends are dumb, give us sonic only!"
@@Magitek1112 same, I mildly dislike that part of the fanbase
A lot of his friends bring new playstyles to the table and actually add a lot to the story and plot
Extremely sad how true that is
Jakks Pacific loves Sonic's stupid friends because they have a wide range of characters to make figures of.
The Sonic Adventure cast is almost complete with Tikal, Froggy, Gamma, Beta and the rest of the E-100s the last pieces needed. Similarly for Heroes, we're only missing Cheese and Chocola plus a Heroes Rouge. Adventure 2 is only really missing the mechs, a SA2 Rouge and a Soap Shoes Sonic.
Besides some absent characters like Gmeral and missing varients like Extreme Gear Team Sonic to go with the Babylon Rogues, most of the cast are represented and it's glorious. A toy company realised the expansive cast is a big moneymaker and we're up to Wave 17 for the 4 inch and 2.5 inch lines. Lasting longer than Toybiz's Marvel Legends run and if the line continues for a few more years, they'll overtake Jakks' former Classic Wrestling Superstars line.
That Richard Elson artwork made me so happy. Not just seeing all these characters back, but seeing a brand new piece of artwork from one of my favourite artists.
Man, I'd love to see more of Metal Knux. I always loved seeing him in Sonic R and racing against him and the robots.
And man, I wanna see some design sheets and concept art for this boy, show us the full vision they had for him beyond the polygons.
While you struggle on the Ceysth pronunciation, I'm just appreciating Mini-Metal-Masey sneaking his tiny face in.
Do metal sonic last, It's like
THE BIGGEST Bad, of course do him last
Yes
I mean as there are no less than 5 different Metal Sonic's in the games alone would a Metal Sonic video properly also just balloon out to a ridicules length.
Game apologist: back then the cast was pretty small
Oh how the cast has expanded
To be fair, it was bigger than you might expect and expanding faster back then, than it has in post-Dreamcast games. The problem is most of the side cast have little to no staying power, so new characters keep trickling in every couple of games.
@@ShaimingLong tenkaichi 3
@@HistoryandReviews As in the Dragon Ball game with the largest playable roster?
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By the time Sonic R game dropped, Sonic had an extensive cast outside of the games from the two DiC cartoons to the two ongoing comics and miscellaneous media; a lot of whom we know little about until the widespread use of the Internet. Did you know we had an echidna character by the name Eric who debuted in a Virgin Book prior to Knuckles' creation?
Like Doctor Who, you'd be surprised at how long it took to have the familiar cast of characters that you think of instinctively. Silver, Blaze and the Babylon Rogues were relatively late additions compared to mainstays like Metal Sonic and Espio.
We need Sonic Rift to have metal sonic, tails doll, and metal knuckles
Sonic rift is fake
We need Sonic Rift to not happen, ever
Let's not forget who made all of these cool robots guess who
I believe you mean Sonic Frontiers, but that's going to focus on mystic stuff.
Metal Knuckles and Mecha Knuckles are such underappreciated characters.
Metal Knuckles was my absolute favorite character for a while when I was a kid. I don't know why, but he was, and it's a shame that he's only ever had one appearance
I've never made sonic fanart before, but this video is really making me want to draw metal knuckles. He's legit a cool mechanical design
Not sure if this will help, but there’s a mod out there for Sonic 3 A.I.R. that replaces the sprites of the Knuckles boss with Metal Knuckles ones when you play as Knuckles himself, which is *genius* to be honest since it keeps that level intact without having the weird though of Knuckles fighting himself.
The link for the discord server is a channel. But im glad you linked me there :)
From the future, IDW did a 30th Anniversary special that used Metal Knuckles in quite a few panels, which is pretty sweet!
"This isn't a sausage-eating contest! ... or a casting couch." Congratulations, I just spat my cola across the room.
To the pleasure of this man, the IDW 30 anniversary Special features lots of crazy references to the past of Sonic. I got so excited.
As a dude who sucks at mechanical designs, I LOVE MECHANICAL DESIGNS!!! I'm so excited for this and I'm so happy we started off with Metal Knuckles. Totally agreed with the plated armor idea you threw out, might try making my own robo hotrod.
I have a special relationship with Metal Knuckles, I've made several custom action figures of him over the years, in his game accurate classic form, comic accurate modern form, and even a couple of the doppelganger form from Sonic Advance. I think my favorite was from one little boy who wanted a Metal Knuckles figure for Christmas, and when his mother tried to tell him that it wasn't a thing he showed her google images of some of my older ones (I don't think he realized they were just customs at the time) and said if it was possible to make one then "Santa" could certainly pull it off. So of course I managed to make him one in time (his mother sent me a Knuckles figure to modify,) I even made those big square arm shields in tinkercad so I could print them out and make it look more accurate.
Having virtually skipped the Saturn era I never knew there was a metal Knuckles. Now that I know he exists, I want one.
I'm so glad that I'm not the only one who loved this design. Maybe if lots of fans bring attention to it, we can have a hope to see our boi back in games, even as a cameo.
...Or day I say a Sonic R remake?
Concept: A Knuckles spin-off game where he actually teams up with Metal Knuckles after finding him decommissioned by Eggman for a co-op adventure game. Eggman stole the Master Emerald or something and Knuckles is going to go after him to get it back, so Metal Knuckles, whom was found by his organic counterpart lying lifeless someplace covered in moss and the like, aids him not only to retrieve the Master Emerald, but also to get his own revenge on the doctor who destroyed his potential. Maybe make a bitter rivalry between Metal Knuckles and Metal Sonic cuz the robot hedgehog achieved what he wished he had. Perhaps as well at the end of the game, Eggman offers Metal Knuckles a place back at the Eggman Empire after seeing his potential, but Metal Knuckles just leaves and becomes a recurring rogue villain throughout the series.
Just an idea I had, but loved your video! Glad to see some love for one of my favourite Sonic characters to date :)
Yayyyyyy, I've been waiting for this!
Also, have you seen the trailer for that new Turtles game?
Seems like something that you'd love!
This audio quality is fine, thanks for uploading!
Knuckles suffered the DBZ Piccolo effect once Shadow appeared.
Metal Knuckles was the main reason I even wanted Sonic R. I thought it was an insanely awesome idea and had thought they might have put in some story or something back then. I absolutely agree with you about the Knuckles design from R being the best.
I did love Adventure's Silver Sonic, though. I think it's crazy accurate lol.
Again, thanks a million for all your hard work. I didn't notice any sound quality issues, but that's just me lol.
Mecha March Madness, eh?
I look forward to the thrilling conclusion in May! :P
I've been waiting for this. Thanks for making the video, this really gives more information on some characters I only saw for a split second.
wait... does that month theme include the Tails Doll?
I'm proud to have gone to high school with you Nick. I've always found you really talented and inspiring. I view your channel often because it gives me the confidence to build my own. Thanks brother. Keep it up. Love the new ad work you're doing btw. That AD for Surfshark came off really smooth.
I need a Sonic Mania 2 with Metal Sonic, Metal Knuckles and Tails Doll as major villains
2:03 The Mecha Madness Super Special is my all time favorite Sonic Archie comic. Patrick Spaziante did some amazing work in this one.
Am I the only person who genuinely enjoyed (and _still_ enjoys) Sonic R? :(
I've always liked it. The music's a jam, and I just find it really relaxing to play. I even like the sound effects of the feet (and doesn't it make more sense to have Sonic characters running, not driving cars?). I enjoy the stages- I remember as a kid I always liked putting it in practice mode or the balloon one or something and just exploring the stages. Even though once Super Sonic is out, he's the only way to win, I still enjoy it. I really don't understand the hate it gets.
I find it incredible. Y'know, I'm 27 years old, and these videos have awaken the Sonic fanboy that's been dormant inside of me for more than 10 YEARS. For real, I haven't touched a Sonic game since the early 2000s (not counting Mania, which I did play). I feel like a child again.
Personally the one-pieced dreads is one of my favorite parts of Metal Knuckles’s design, since it’s in tone with Metal Sonic’s head and quills being one object. But the concept of the dreads being separate from Metal Knuckles’s head sounds good too, although that feels like more of a Mecha Knuckles thing, since Mecha Sonic has quills that are more than one piece. At this point, I just want to see Metal Knuckles in canon again, or at least another form of a robotic Knuckles other than just some pallet swap.
Holy heck, a video about a character I never knew about *and* a reference to Epyon Gundam?! This is the best video.
Metal mad lads are sick! Metal sonic is my favourite character along with the real sonic.
Looking forward to these! Always enjoy your analyses.
Interesting, I wonder why they seemed to change Metal Knuckles design so much throughout the years in comics or games when a design already existed? But at least he gets referenced at some points in time.
I can't speak for the American comics, but STC's Knuckles Metallix pre-dates Sonic R. Hell, it was hinted at before Sonic 3D came out.
@@nickporter4279 Really, I'm a bit surprised to hear this
I think like Mecha Sonic, the artist doesn't have access to the original artwork that the orignal low poly model would be based off on.
Metal Knuckles was always awesome. I did love our Metalix version in STC too though.
The Silver Sonic in Adventure is Silver Sonic from Death Egg in Sonic 2 by the way.
Finally, my daughter and I love your videos chap! She asked me to write this! Please keep making them!
Metal Knuckles is the best thing we got from Sonic R, after the music.
I wonder why I felt compelled to see this video again today...on Sonic's 30th Anniversary. It's a special occasion, but for some reason, I really wanted a refresher on this one-shot character.
I think the think that works best about Metal Knuckles is the simplicity of the design. It matches the look of all the other badniks, and more specifically, metal Sonic himself.
Also how dare Ian Flynn use a metallic tails design and not use the tails doll design. Shame on you, Mr Ian.
What an awesome looking robot!!! Thanks for the great video!!!
"Metal knuckles is the most underutilized sonic characters"
Tails doll: am I a joke to you?
At least tails doll is remember fondly till this day and is the poster boy for Creepypastas right next to Sonic EXE, meanwhile when was the last time you hear somebody talking about Metal Knuckles
The minute you said Mecha March Madness I got so hyped for this. I share your excitement for this character
Will the Shadow Androids, Tails Doll, or Amy Doll appear in March Madness.
But the biggest question off all will eggman eggman robot eggman nega and all the eggy bois will they appear in mecha madness
This is a topic I never really considered, but I really enjoyed the video dude!
metal knuckles was so cool, they should do more with him.
Every time you do a video like this and you talk about something you wanted to see Sega do, I wonder how on earth you’re reading my mind! Awesome video!
What if the dreads on metal knuckles could combine together to make a shield? Maybe even make it so the dreads could move around so they can shield stuff they usually wouldn’t be able to?
I've been saying this exact thing for YEARS dude. There's so much missed potential with older characters that they aren't utilizing! You are my messiah sir, and I support you wholeheartedly.
Well this aged well didn't it! I'd like to see your thoughts now that we have Metal Knuckles's proper classic design revealed
Where
Your passion for Sonic R's Metal Knuckles made me just as in love with the design as you are, probably less so, but close enough. When I draw Metal/Mecha Knuckles this May, I am going to use that Sonic R design.
I will see if I can bring this silly ass boy some justice.
What about "the genious irony of Cubot and Orbot/Scratch and Grounder"
@Metaph "Snooping as usual i see"
Wow I don’t think I even knew about Metal Knuckles??!! I’m going to enjoy Mecha March!!
I'm giving you a like just because your opinion on Mecha Knuckles.
You put so much heart into these videos. Makes them very entertaining and captivating.
You got metal in my echidna!
You got echidna in my metal
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Family Guy reference
Cool! Looking forward to Mecha March Madness ending around mid summer!
SONIC SUPERSTARS HAS BROUGHT HIM BACK!!!!!
Well yes, but actually no
Crazy how just a few years ago we didn’t even have a proper look at his design and now he’s been brought back in the comics, was in a mainline game, finally got his sonic r artwork released, and even has a goddamn funko pop.
i actually really liked Silver Sonic MK2 in sonic adventure xD
Though hes just a cool little throw away robot there, he was a pretty sweet character in the archie comics!
Great video as usual dude, well worth the wait! :D
The dreadlocks should definitely be jet vents to help him glide and potentially shoot projectiles from in offense. What a great character I never heard of before today!!
I understood that reference! Great video as always dude.
I'd love to see Metal Knuckles making a comeback in the series, but given how they've been handling the franchise I don't think we will. Knuckles never got the attention he deserved since Adventure 1. Dark Brotherhood attempted to flesh it out a bit, but...
I loved the designs in Mecha Madness. It was my favorite comic when I was a kid.
Metal Knuckles was an official character?
I always assumed that Metal Knuckles' dreads were made up of plates with hinges that connected each section, hence why the R model's dreads have a jagged look to them in comparison to Knuckles' smooth curves.
There's a weird glitch at 11:58
Well about Metal Knuckles bos fight. There is boss fight with him in fan game called ,,Sonic 3D in 2D" which is full of great refs to Sonic series making Classic feel like connected to Adventure games
Guess who's back?
Really glad he got a skin in the recently released Minecraft collab and get a fairly big role in the latest Sonic IDW Annual
I thought you'd mention Metal Knuckles being the second best character in Sonic R. Depending on how good or bad you ...R, you might even need Super Sonic to win the Metal Knuckles unlock race!