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is the high mpg guy putting down throttle halfway between the power range beyond the eco level? on highway, should it only be smash and glide or only maintaining speed at eco level?
Toyota a total disaster *AND THIS CAR AIN'T THAT AT ALL* quite the opposite absolutely as the best selling sedan ever very much leaving #2 Honda in the dust. As much as I'm a huge fan of Tesla and now very much so this car really is the way to go for something that isn't so crazy space age great review here😊😊
Can you please do this again with the Hyundai Elantra Hybrid. Blue edition. I know y'all aren't a hypermiler channel but doing this for a few of the hybrids would be great I think! Keep the format the same, one accelerates super slow, in eco, one just a tad bit faster to get up to speed with the "pulse and glide" style and another driving more "normally" with AC on. I think it would be great for people to see what range of efficiency to expect. I think the Hyundai hybrids will yield a better mileage than Honda for instance but not as much as Toyota.
@@DavidBrubaker-pi4gj hyundai small sedan hybrid now uses low grip eco tires, if toyota did same its be better than them . i think so because big combustion at low rpm is more effceint than relying on turbo
I drive a Corolla Cross hybrid. I use the "pulse and glide" technique. Warm up the engine, then accelerate quickly to 2 to 3 mph higher than the speed limit, then let go of the pedal for one second and maintain the speed. That way you're in EV for 80% of the time. I can get 62 mpg in a SUV, I can't imagine how much you can get in a Camry. I heard of a guy that took a trip from LA to NY in a Prius and he got more than 90 mpg for the total trip! Toyota hybrids are something else.
@@BrianNC81 The idea is to go 2 or 3 mph above the limit, let go of the pedal so the car enters EV mode, then barely apply pressure to the pedal so the car glides in EV maintaining speed. You will loose a few mph that way, so you''ll return to the speed limit. When you loose too much mph, just accelerate quickly again, rinse and repeat.
As an automotive engineer, I can vouch pulse and glide works for non-hybrid cars as well. In those cases, the quick acceleration runs the engine at a more efficient operating point (say 3000 rpm with 30% thermal efficiency) than the high gear cruising point (say 1500 rpm at 20% eff). Don't get me wrong, for a constant power output at cruising speed: high gear with low engine rpm is more efficient than lower gear resulting in a high rpm with a lower torque (to have same power). But in the pedal pulsing case, either in the high gear itself power output can be increased or even with the price of a downshift to a lower gear, still the torque demand might be high enough to get into 30% efficiency point. The extra power generated is stored as kinetic energy in the inertia of the vehicle, by speeding up. This is recouped in the glide stage, when the engine still has parasitic losses but the percentage efficiency does not matter since the consumption is low (90% loss on 100$ is way better than 10% loss on 100k). For hybrids with EV ability the glide stage is superior to non-hybrids due to the ability to turn the engine off, as you alluded. If this is done too much, say speed up 10 mph faster than cruising highway speeds, then w.r.t the efficiency of that cruising speed you will see diminished returns due to the low aerodynamic efficiency at high speeds eating into the increased thermal efficiency of the engine.
What I find fascinating is the inertia of the vehicle is used for energy storage in this strategy, even in the absence of an energy storage device (battery)
We really liked the Camry Hybrid but went with the Venza Hybrid (more versatile for our long trips). We regularly get 50+ (and have got up to 73) mpg on trips around the city. So happy with our Toyota Hybrid.
We have the LE and our current avg on screen is 60mpg. However, one time on our way back from the mountains, we got 85mpg for that particular trip because it was mostly down hill and we just coast/break pretty much the entire time 🤣 it’s an amazing car.
@ nope often times the speed logo will show red which means I’m going over the speed limit. This car is very zippy not very hard to go over the speed limit at all. But once I do I immediately let off the gas and go into coast mode to maximize the mpg.
Cool test and two really good results. Thanks for sharing, Car Confections. I have a '22 European spec top trim Camry hybrid and when I hypermile it, I get similar results as Mason and Drew under similar conditions.
We drive very conservative in our 2024 Tucson Hybrid, and it gets 46mpg and a all highway trip to the Wisconsin Dells area 710 miles and averaged 39.7 for the trip. Loving it.
What a great video Drew and Mason! I am super impressed! Just incredible gas mileage on the new Camry XSE hybrid! Gee whiz I’m just plain impressed! I will definitely give some serious consideration to trading my 22 Altima SV all wheel drive that easily gets 40 plus mpg average for another Camry! When that happens that will make 5 Camrys I’ve owned! I would be just as satisfied with an SE model over the XSE personally. You guys are definitely rocking it! Much appreciated! Mark in Iowa!
#JusticeforJosh 😂This is the best video I’ve seen in terms of how to get the best fuel economy out of a new vehicle. I’m more impressed at how you guys beat the EPA rating by a significant margin. If I’m not mistaken you guys made this more fuel efficient than a Toyota Prius. Well done 👏. Hybrids are a Toyota staple.
I drive a 2022 Prius, I constantly use the cruise control and disengage as approaching red lights and stop signs. In town 70+ mpg highway around 60 mpg. Wind makes a difference on the highway. Looking further ahead, using a/c and heat not used if possible makes a difference.
Is there any way to determine the state of the battery charge at the beginning of the run? Maybe it would only be a slight edge anyway, but if the battery is fully charged, it may stay off of the ICE longer in the first couple of miles.
@ Ryan Squillace is the sales man at Fred haas Toyota in Houston. He’s one of the top three salesman in the country. With what I paid out the door, plus $750 shipping to my house, I still was $2100 under msrp. I paid total $34600 including shipping. Msrp was $36700. Send him an email! It was easy. No gimmicks. No bs pricing. No tricks. Sale took all of 20 minutes start to finish. Haha
Hey guys. Really I cannot skip your video when it is about the new Camry 2025, solely because I have owned one xse for 2.5 months now. I love the car in all aspects. However I can't win myself yet when it comes to the mpg game 😂. 5 days out of every week, I'm driving less than 5 miles from home to work and back. I know that I usually have heat ac on and so, but 40% of my driving is without ac. And with that, I'm averaging out at 39.7 after 3.5k miles of total driving. I noticed that I got like 49-50 mpg for trip that is over 50 miles, but as mentioned I barely have those trip 😢. So do you think that by driving short trips, I have made my car average mpg becomes worse and worse ? 😂😂😂 If you guys can make videos about short trip 's mpg I would be very appreciated ! Thank you guys and keep up the good works.
Thanks for watching! The same thing happens to us when we make really short trips. In our experience, the best MPGs seem to kick in after 10 miles or so.
I havent been able to test it (still haven't settled on a new vehicle, really want to see those 2026 Rav4s), but I really wonder if using sport to get to speed and then going Eco would be effective.
Interesting. You would think locking it in EV mode would be the best strategy. After all, isn't that what you would do with PHEVs? Looks like the battery is too small for that.
yeah phevs have larger batteries for more EV range; though with each iteration of toyota's non-phev hybrid tech, the electric range has slowly increased with each iteration as they optimize it
Anyone seeing the estimated range is low in their 2025 Camry? Just got one a week ago and filled up for the first time and estimated range was 463 mi. Total avg mpg was reported at 50mpg, so I thought the range estimate would be higher. Have seen a small number of others report the same, but it wasn’t in a large forum so not sure if anyone in a larger arena has seen this too?
I have 2025 XLE AWD driving primarily highway driving also between 70-80mph, but am only getting 38 mpg. I’ve asked two dealerships and Toyota only to hear there are no issues.
honda accord is better in my opinion, i have 2024 hybrid ex-l and round trip around 20 mi taking my brother to school, i got 78mpg with just regular driving
The actual ratio is 22.5 So, ANY electric getting less than 3 miles per kwh, is getting less than 67.5 mpg. When you look at the big EV's, they are emitting MORE CO2 than some hybrids.
It's the unnecessary braking and unnecessary regen that's the biggest enemy to good fuel economy. It annoys me people who accelerate slower than the max BSFC rpm. Also remember all EV power in hybrid comes from the gas, so why go thru 2 energy conversions with all the associated losses.
It used to be only old people who drove slow at an inconsisent speed and took accelerated so slow its be beaten by a jimny. Now its old people and hybrid drivers. The hybrid drivers are always so entitled too "Youll drive at 10km/h slower than the speed limit because i am.
All of the energy used by this vehicle comes from gas. Even the kinetic energy, that is "recovered" via regen braking, was provided by burning gas at an earlier time. And the truth that many find hard to accept, is that when you are burning _no_ gas you are using _more,_ per mile, than in any other mode. In any hybrid, there are three paths this energy takes to reach the wheels: 1) Engine-->Several Gears-->Differential-->Wheels 2) Engine-->Generator-->Power Electronics-->Motor-->Single Gear-->Differential-->Wheels 3A) Engine-->Generator-->Power Electronics-->Battery 3B) Battery-->Power Electronics-->Motor-->Single Gear-->Differential-->Wheels There are several misunderstood details here, including: *The third path is divided into two, separated by time. You may think you are only using path 3B in EV drive mode, but you are really using all of path 3. * Path 1 is called parallel drive mode. It uses 3A, or 3B, at the same time, with one of the "gears" replaced with a motor-generator. * Path 2 is serial drive mode. It also uses 3A or 3B, using the Power Electronics to mix the flows of electricity. * Your Toyota is a parallel-serial hybrid, using both at the same time. The balance between them is what controls engine rpm. * Regen breaking is represented by any of the three putting energy into the car, path 3B being reversed, and then applied again. * The motor does not start a path, only the engine does. As far as efficiency goes, the motor functions more like a gear in the transmission, than like the engine. The point here is that there is loss at each stop in these paths. And there are more stops, by far, in path #3. The biggest loss is in the engine, which is part of each path. The next biggest is (dis)charging the battery, followed by the power electronics; each occurs in path 3 twice. The way any hybrid, including this Camry, gains efficiency is mostly in the Engine. Every engine, even after optimizing rpm, is most efficient within a small range of power. Maybe 20% to 40% of its maximum power rating. This one (well, I assume it is the same as in the previous generation) is 40% efficient between maybe 50 and 60 HP. At the ~15 HP needed to maintain highway speeds on a flat road, that drops to maybe 35%. This is still very good for an ICE, but it is equivalent to more than 10% loss, in the engine, from what it could be. The purpose of the "Pulse and Glide" technique is not the "glide" phase where the engine is off. It is to use this engine in that 50 to 60 HP range, instead of 15 HP, for the "pulse" phase. This way, every path's _net_ efficiency removes that 10% loss. The "glide" phase itself is the least efficient, when you consider both halves of path 3. In fact, all the extra steps probably add more than that 10% back in, making that phase even less efficient than normal driving. Drew did better than Mason because he stayed closer to 50 to 60 HP during his acceleration phase. Josh relied so much on path 3 that he was significantly worse (plus, traffic and rain). You all gained over EPA due to other factors that made your driving unconventional.
I just cannot understand the logic behind Toyota sticking with this technology. Why not have PHEV with 100 km range and for most drivers this means hardly ever buying fuel and virtually no pollution. I used to get 45 mpg out of Jaguar XF 15 years ago! I have a Mitsubushi PHEV now.
May be it is reliable or comfortable, but there have always been some missing elements. There is no excitement and no fulfillment. It's just a wagon that carries you from a to b.
That cannot be good for the motor, Traction battery, etc. life span on a hybrid. And no wonder traction batteries do not last long in a hybrid, especially doing things like that. Sacrificing the traction battery that costs 1,000s of dollars, to save 100s of dollars in gas is questionable to me.
lots of toyota rav4 / prius / camry hybrids with hundred of thousands of miles on original batteries out there. There's a reason taxi services / uber use them
Ain’t no body care about no gas mileage cause we just get our boos to buy that premium gas for our Bimmers and Benzs!!!! And if you’re jelly you just need to get a boo who isn’t cheap!!! Sorry not sorry boo boo!!!!
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What size tyres are on your Camry?
is the high mpg guy putting down throttle halfway between the power range beyond the eco level? on highway, should it only be smash and glide or only maintaining speed at eco level?
Toyota a total disaster *AND THIS CAR AIN'T THAT AT ALL* quite the opposite absolutely as the best selling sedan ever very much leaving #2 Honda in the dust. As much as I'm a huge fan of Tesla and now very much so this car really is the way to go for something that isn't so crazy space age great review here😊😊
Can you please do this again with the Hyundai Elantra Hybrid. Blue edition.
I know y'all aren't a hypermiler channel but doing this for a few of the hybrids would be great I think!
Keep the format the same, one accelerates super slow, in eco, one just a tad bit faster to get up to speed with the "pulse and glide" style and another driving more "normally" with AC on.
I think it would be great for people to see what range of efficiency to expect.
I think the Hyundai hybrids will yield a better mileage than Honda for instance but not as much as Toyota.
@@DavidBrubaker-pi4gj hyundai small sedan hybrid now uses low grip eco tires, if toyota did same its be better than them . i think so because big combustion at low rpm is more effceint than relying on turbo
I drive a Corolla Cross hybrid. I use the "pulse and glide" technique. Warm up the engine, then accelerate quickly to 2 to 3 mph higher than the speed limit, then let go of the pedal for one second and maintain the speed. That way you're in EV for 80% of the time. I can get 62 mpg in a SUV, I can't imagine how much you can get in a Camry. I heard of a guy that took a trip from LA to NY in a Prius and he got more than 90 mpg for the total trip! Toyota hybrids are something else.
thanks will try this.
Does it work doing 10mph over speed limits?
@@BrianNC81 The idea is to go 2 or 3 mph above the limit, let go of the pedal so the car enters EV mode, then barely apply pressure to the pedal so the car glides in EV maintaining speed. You will loose a few mph that way, so you''ll return to the speed limit. When you loose too much mph, just accelerate quickly again, rinse and repeat.
As an automotive engineer, I can vouch pulse and glide works for non-hybrid cars as well. In those cases, the quick acceleration runs the engine at a more efficient operating point (say 3000 rpm with 30% thermal efficiency) than the high gear cruising point (say 1500 rpm at 20% eff). Don't get me wrong, for a constant power output at cruising speed: high gear with low engine rpm is more efficient than lower gear resulting in a high rpm with a lower torque (to have same power). But in the pedal pulsing case, either in the high gear itself power output can be increased or even with the price of a downshift to a lower gear, still the torque demand might be high enough to get into 30% efficiency point. The extra power generated is stored as kinetic energy in the inertia of the vehicle, by speeding up. This is recouped in the glide stage, when the engine still has parasitic losses but the percentage efficiency does not matter since the consumption is low (90% loss on 100$ is way better than 10% loss on 100k). For hybrids with EV ability the glide stage is superior to non-hybrids due to the ability to turn the engine off, as you alluded. If this is done too much, say speed up 10 mph faster than cruising highway speeds, then w.r.t the efficiency of that cruising speed you will see diminished returns due to the low aerodynamic efficiency at high speeds eating into the increased thermal efficiency of the engine.
What I find fascinating is the inertia of the vehicle is used for energy storage in this strategy, even in the absence of an energy storage device (battery)
We really liked the Camry Hybrid but went with the Venza Hybrid (more versatile for our long trips). We regularly get 50+ (and have got up to 73) mpg on trips around the city. So happy with our Toyota Hybrid.
Do you live in warmer area? I'm in Canada with colder seasons... The engine is on more often.
And what speed are you driving? 40 mph ?
Wait 50+ mpg on a venza???
We have the LE and our current avg on screen is 60mpg. However, one time on our way back from the mountains, we got 85mpg for that particular trip because it was mostly down hill and we just coast/break pretty much the entire time 🤣 it’s an amazing car.
60 mpg?! Are you going 10 mpg lower than the speed limit?
@ nope often times the speed logo will show red which means I’m going over the speed limit. This car is very zippy not very hard to go over the speed limit at all. But once I do I immediately let off the gas and go into coast mode to maximize the mpg.
@AtlantaGuns oh..sounds fun..
@@KirkAnderson-h5p He said mpg not mph
Brake, not break. Two different words with two different meanings.
Cool test and two really good results. Thanks for sharing, Car Confections. I have a '22 European spec top trim Camry hybrid and when I hypermile it, I get similar results as Mason and Drew under similar conditions.
We drive very conservative in our 2024 Tucson Hybrid, and it gets 46mpg and a all highway trip to the Wisconsin Dells area 710 miles and averaged 39.7 for the trip. Loving it.
Welcome to the channel Josh 😊
Instead of changing my driving habits I'll be satisfied with the MPG I get driving anyway I want to. See you when you catch up with me down the road.
Excellent video!
What a great video Drew and Mason! I am super impressed! Just incredible gas mileage on the new Camry XSE hybrid! Gee whiz I’m just plain impressed! I will definitely give some serious consideration to trading my 22 Altima SV all wheel drive that easily gets 40 plus mpg average for another Camry! When that happens that will make 5 Camrys I’ve owned! I would be just as satisfied with an SE model over the XSE personally. You guys are definitely rocking it! Much appreciated! Mark in Iowa!
Thanks! Hope you have a great weekend!
Wishing you all the very same!
Well done Drew, it proves that a hybrid Camry is a better option than a PHEV or BEV 😊
#JusticeforJosh 😂This is the best video I’ve seen in terms of how to get the best fuel economy out of a new vehicle. I’m more impressed at how you guys beat the EPA rating by a significant margin. If I’m not mistaken you guys made this more fuel efficient than a Toyota Prius. Well done 👏. Hybrids are a Toyota staple.
Good episode, enjoyed it.
Nice idea, very entertaining and informational.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I drive a 2022 Prius, I constantly use the cruise control and disengage as approaching red lights and stop signs. In town 70+ mpg highway around 60 mpg. Wind makes a difference on the highway. Looking further ahead, using a/c and heat not used if possible makes a difference.
Good job guys
nice video guys!
Thanks!
Is there any way to determine the state of the battery charge at the beginning of the run? Maybe it would only be a slight edge anyway, but if the battery is fully charged, it may stay off of the ICE longer in the first couple of miles.
Much better than a Tesla👍
Just bought a 2025 Camry SE AWD for $5000 below msrp. 😅
How’d you get that much off?
@ Ryan Squillace is the sales man at Fred haas Toyota in Houston. He’s one of the top three salesman in the country.
With what I paid out the door, plus $750 shipping to my house, I still was $2100 under msrp.
I paid total $34600 including shipping. Msrp was $36700.
Send him an email! It was easy. No gimmicks. No bs pricing. No tricks. Sale took all of 20 minutes start to finish. Haha
Was it a demo unit?
@ nope. Had 3 miles on the odo. Brand new. No issues.
OTD?
Good video!!!
Would you do it again using the cruise control? I think the computer would do better?
Hey guys. Really I cannot skip your video when it is about the new Camry 2025, solely because I have owned one xse for 2.5 months now. I love the car in all aspects. However I can't win myself yet when it comes to the mpg game 😂. 5 days out of every week, I'm driving less than 5 miles from home to work and back. I know that I usually have heat ac on and so, but 40% of my driving is without ac. And with that, I'm averaging out at 39.7 after 3.5k miles of total driving. I noticed that I got like 49-50 mpg for trip that is over 50 miles, but as mentioned I barely have those trip 😢. So do you think that by driving short trips, I have made my car average mpg becomes worse and worse ? 😂😂😂 If you guys can make videos about short trip 's mpg I would be very appreciated ! Thank you guys and keep up the good works.
Thanks for watching! The same thing happens to us when we make really short trips. In our experience, the best MPGs seem to kick in after 10 miles or so.
Once a week fog for like a round trip of 50 miles.
Drive slower and you’ll do better.
I was hoping one you would have said "Screw It" and put it Sport Mode and cranked the A/C and put you foot into it! Good Fun Vid.😇
About halfway through, we were all tempted to for sure! 😂
I want to get a base model gen 5 Prius in a few years when some nice used ones are on the market for ~$20k
A very interesting video series.. I wonder how much MPG you would get if you Hyper-Mile the Corolla Hybrid?
I havent been able to test it (still haven't settled on a new vehicle, really want to see those 2026 Rav4s), but I really wonder if using sport to get to speed and then going Eco would be effective.
Does Drafting work?!?!?!?!
Can't wait to get mine ordered.
I love mine
The corolla and Prius are get cars to hyper mile too, great savings
A beauty!
Great vid guys.
With MPG like that I’m not even considering a Corolla or Civic any more
What do you expect?
Rain made it tuff bro.
Thanks!
We appreciate the support!
another Josh video 🤩
You all should try this in a V10 M5 and see who can crack 9 mpg
Game on😎😎
Interesting. You would think locking it in EV mode would be the best strategy. After all, isn't that what you would do with PHEVs? Looks like the battery is too small for that.
yeah phevs have larger batteries for more EV range; though with each iteration of toyota's non-phev hybrid tech, the electric range has slowly increased with each iteration as they optimize it
I have a Corolla Cross 2.0 gas model. I hypermill all the time and can get 47 MPG.
Some people also say having the windows open can be worse for the economy than running the HVAC itself, idk how true it is.
Yes that’s true for all cars.
My RAV4 hybrid I’ve seen as high as 52 mpg in my driving and I’m not necessarily trying to hyper-mile
The Toyota Camry is a solid choice! It’s got a reputation for being reliable, comfortable, and great on gas.
Yes and with them all being hybrid now it really helped fuel economy
Anyone seeing the estimated range is low in their 2025 Camry? Just got one a week ago and filled up for the first time and estimated range was 463 mi. Total avg mpg was reported at 50mpg, so I thought the range estimate would be higher. Have seen a small number of others report the same, but it wasn’t in a large forum so not sure if anyone in a larger arena has seen this too?
estimate is not always accurate, best to do your own calcuations
I've got 11k on my 2025 AWD driving at 78-80mph i get 43mpg consistently
That’s kind of low honestly. I’m hitting 47.4 without trying too hard.
I have 2025 XLE AWD driving primarily highway driving also between 70-80mph, but am only getting 38 mpg. I’ve asked two dealerships and Toyota only to hear there are no issues.
@@2004cyrus at what average speeds
you should try extreme MPG test with elantra hybrid, so far elantra hybrid is better MPG than toyota which include prius and camry.
Fun test but not realistic driving practices.
I have an se and it’s giving me 63mpg😮
That's really good. I find because Honda is more fun, it suffer less mpg as we put our foot down more.
Toyota is becoming more fun to drive, and Hondas are getting less fun. The change has been happening over the last 4-5 years.
honda accord is better in my opinion, i have 2024 hybrid ex-l and round trip around 20 mi taking my brother to school, i got 78mpg with just regular driving
Guys can You do the Same thing with the New CX-50 Hybrid and the New RAV4 Hybrid, once it arrives 😮🇺🇸🇨🇦??!
Hopefully! 🤞
The actual ratio is 22.5 So, ANY electric getting less than 3 miles per kwh, is getting less than 67.5 mpg. When you look at the big EV's, they are emitting MORE CO2 than some hybrids.
Vw diesel can achieve similar results effortlessly.
Is that the one they screwed us on the fake emissions tests?
lol the lightest man won. I guess the human weight played a part.
Camry looks great, id personally get a black accord sport w the black rims haha. Were still driving my moms 2007 accord, almost 300,000 miles
@@HiiImChris I know that’s right!
It's the unnecessary braking and unnecessary regen that's the biggest enemy to good fuel economy. It annoys me people who accelerate slower than the max BSFC rpm. Also remember all EV power in hybrid comes from the gas, so why go thru 2 energy conversions with all the associated losses.
Hybrids are great as long as you don’t expect longevity. The stopping and starting on the ice is very hard.
The are a lot of high mileage Toyota hybrid vehicles out there
Many make it to 300k miles without any issues.
lots of toyota rav4 / prius / camry hybrids with hundred of thousands of miles on original batteries. There's a reason taxi services / uber use them
It used to be only old people who drove slow at an inconsisent speed and took accelerated so slow its be beaten by a jimny. Now its old people and hybrid drivers. The hybrid drivers are always so entitled too "Youll drive at 10km/h slower than the speed limit because i am.
All of the energy used by this vehicle comes from gas. Even the kinetic energy, that is "recovered" via regen braking, was provided by burning gas at an earlier time. And the truth that many find hard to accept, is that when you are burning _no_ gas you are using _more,_ per mile, than in any other mode.
In any hybrid, there are three paths this energy takes to reach the wheels:
1) Engine-->Several Gears-->Differential-->Wheels
2) Engine-->Generator-->Power Electronics-->Motor-->Single Gear-->Differential-->Wheels
3A) Engine-->Generator-->Power Electronics-->Battery
3B) Battery-->Power Electronics-->Motor-->Single Gear-->Differential-->Wheels
There are several misunderstood details here, including:
*The third path is divided into two, separated by time. You may think you are only using path 3B in EV drive mode, but you are really using all of path 3.
* Path 1 is called parallel drive mode. It uses 3A, or 3B, at the same time, with one of the "gears" replaced with a motor-generator.
* Path 2 is serial drive mode. It also uses 3A or 3B, using the Power Electronics to mix the flows of electricity.
* Your Toyota is a parallel-serial hybrid, using both at the same time. The balance between them is what controls engine rpm.
* Regen breaking is represented by any of the three putting energy into the car, path 3B being reversed, and then applied again.
* The motor does not start a path, only the engine does. As far as efficiency goes, the motor functions more like a gear in the transmission, than like the engine.
The point here is that there is loss at each stop in these paths. And there are more stops, by far, in path #3. The biggest loss is in the engine, which is part of each path. The next biggest is (dis)charging the battery, followed by the power electronics; each occurs in path 3 twice.
The way any hybrid, including this Camry, gains efficiency is mostly in the Engine. Every engine, even after optimizing rpm, is most efficient within a small range of power. Maybe 20% to 40% of its maximum power rating. This one (well, I assume it is the same as in the previous generation) is 40% efficient between maybe 50 and 60 HP. At the ~15 HP needed to maintain highway speeds on a flat road, that drops to maybe 35%. This is still very good for an ICE, but it is equivalent to more than 10% loss, in the engine, from what it could be.
The purpose of the "Pulse and Glide" technique is not the "glide" phase where the engine is off. It is to use this engine in that 50 to 60 HP range, instead of 15 HP, for the "pulse" phase. This way, every path's _net_ efficiency removes that 10% loss. The "glide" phase itself is the least efficient, when you consider both halves of path 3. In fact, all the extra steps probably add more than that 10% back in, making that phase even less efficient than normal driving.
Drew did better than Mason because he stayed closer to 50 to 60 HP during his acceleration phase. Josh relied so much on path 3 that he was significantly worse (plus, traffic and rain). You all gained over EPA due to other factors that made your driving unconventional.
I bought one of these XLE Camrys in August. I’ll take your advice to improve my mileage. Thank you for the technical breakdown.
I just cannot understand the logic behind Toyota sticking with this technology. Why not have PHEV with 100 km range and for most drivers this means hardly ever buying fuel and virtually no pollution. I used to get 45 mpg out of Jaguar XF 15 years ago! I have a Mitsubushi PHEV now.
Because not everyone has access to charging at home or work. Not to mention the battery costs on a PHEV is much costlier than a HEV.
Seeing Drew’s eyes makes me faint. He’s so cute. I think I’m gay now.
May be it is reliable or comfortable, but there have always been some missing elements. There is no excitement and no fulfillment. It's just a wagon that carries you from a to b.
people buy this for the same reason they don't care for excitement / fulfillment in their washing machine or refridgerator
I averaged 20 mpg on my 2022 Toyota Tundra 😂😂😂
So, I will spend $40K+ on this car, not use the air, etc just so I can save $9.49 a month on gas. I will net that off my $700/mo. car payment. Ha, ha😊
Camry interior looks weird asl
That cannot be good for the motor, Traction battery, etc. life span on a hybrid.
And no wonder traction batteries do not last long in a hybrid, especially doing things like that.
Sacrificing the traction battery that costs 1,000s of dollars, to save 100s of dollars in gas is questionable to me.
lots of toyota rav4 / prius / camry hybrids with hundred of thousands of miles on original batteries out there. There's a reason taxi services / uber use them
driving downhill both ways huh
I guess when you can’t afford an Accord, you settle for a Camry.
Accords are sitting on lots collecting dust and cobwebs while Toyota dealers can’t keep 2025 Camry in stock. But good luck with your narrative. 😂
@@grandepdre good luck with your lies.
@@grandepdre good luck with your lies. And for goodness sake, practice A LOT more or just quit.
What a stupid comment. Why are you even here?
@@moneypenny174more hp more mpg and less price for a low trim hybrid Toyota wins
Ain’t no body care about no gas mileage cause we just get our boos to buy that premium gas for our Bimmers and Benzs!!!! And if you’re jelly you just need to get a boo who isn’t cheap!!! Sorry not sorry boo boo!!!!