Fun fact. Hilux is not smaller and lighter than the 70. Look up the wheelbases, cabin width and/or dimensions and of course both their curb weights. Compare SR5 to GXL.
@@wanderer397 look up SR5 vs GXL both dual cab for argument sake. Both very similar dimensions and weights. If you hop in a hilux you will realise very quickly it is wider and far more roomer. You are correct re the chassis thickness in the 70, it is stronger.
Althought the presenters appear to lack long term experience with "analogue" off roaders I did appreciate their perspective on the Ineos. Thanks for the content, cheers
Regarding the Ineos pricing, it's simple to explain,... more profits. Ineos realise they can still sell as many as they can build even if prices go up, so up goes the prices. Afterall, Ineos like other car manufacturers might make vehicles, but they're all in the profit generating business. Money always talk.
Re the V8 vs 2.8l 70 Series Its like deja vu when Nissan offered the Patrol with the 4.2TD manual and the 3.0TD auto. Maybe that's an unfair comparison because the Nissan 3.0 diesel was a ticking timebomb whereas the 2.8 appears to be a bit more reliable.
Toyota has lost some large sale (globally) of the 70 Series, due to changing requirements of fleet buyers - where Toyota sell most of the 70 Series to. Most fleet buyers now specify automatics only for vehicles purchased. Including those used in mining, resources, utlities, and government bodies. Toyota needed to pull their finger out before more of their traditional fleet customers go elsewhere.
Landcruiser round headlights are only on the initial deliveries as a one off, these will be changed to rectangle after initial orders, the single cab is the only one that gets safety of side airbags etc, the dual and troopy only get 2 airbags, driver and passenger, rear seats get nothing, so it's not a car to have kids in the back.
Why the hell do I want stuff like lane assist in a built on purpose 4x4? Tech we don't need or want to pay for.High/Low works fine... I'm guessing James might need a bit of help crackin a tinny too.
Exactly the same feeling. It seems like these guys have no idea about off-roading; they're simply victims of modern trends and consumerism, just another chat among metrosexuals. They demonstrate zero knowledge about the real usage of off-road cars, showing a lack of understanding of the theories of internal combustion engines, and are far removed from the objective reality of what actually works in the field. Also, I wish I could ask them whether there's a power station for a Tesla Cybertruck in the middle of the Simpson Desert?
The devil is in the details: "a 4-cylinder LC can do pretty much the same as a V8". I don't think it's true after testing both cars. However, even if I'm wrong, another question arises: for how long can a 2.8-liter engine do the job of a 4.5-liter one? I don't want to hear nonsense about 'advanced technology'; both engines are already at the top of the range in terms of advanced technology. Nothing can work against basic physics. Another piece of nonsense is the supposed advantage of an automatic gearbox over a manual one for off-road driving. Seriously? The lack of full control over the car, the inability to push-start, among many other issues, are now being touted as advantages. There's nothing more to say.
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Fun fact. Hilux is not smaller and lighter than the 70. Look up the wheelbases, cabin width and/or dimensions and of course both their curb weights. Compare SR5 to GXL.
@@wanderer397 look up SR5 vs GXL both dual cab for argument sake. Both very similar dimensions and weights. If you hop in a hilux you will realise very quickly it is wider and far more roomer.
You are correct re the chassis thickness in the 70, it is stronger.
Althought the presenters appear to lack long term experience with "analogue" off roaders I did appreciate their perspective on the Ineos. Thanks for the content, cheers
Regarding the Ineos pricing, it's simple to explain,... more profits. Ineos realise they can still sell as many as they can build even if prices go up, so up goes the prices. Afterall, Ineos like other car manufacturers might make vehicles, but they're all in the profit generating business. Money always talk.
Another great program guys, great to get the insights and knowledge that isn't always readily available.
Re the V8 vs 2.8l 70 Series Its like deja vu when Nissan offered the Patrol with the 4.2TD manual and the 3.0TD auto. Maybe that's an unfair comparison because the Nissan 3.0 diesel was a ticking timebomb whereas the 2.8 appears to be a bit more reliable.
wdm, deja vu?
V8 automatic 70 series would be a nice combination
I have never been to Fraser Island. The free fuel would be just perfect to make this dream happen.
Toyota has lost some large sale (globally) of the 70 Series, due to changing requirements of fleet buyers - where Toyota sell most of the 70 Series to. Most fleet buyers now specify automatics only for vehicles purchased. Including those used in mining, resources, utlities, and government bodies. Toyota needed to pull their finger out before more of their traditional fleet customers go elsewhere.
If it to supply automatic transmissions in the 70 Series, Toyota have indeed pulled their finger out.
Isn't pulling their finger our the 4 pot auto?
Landcruiser round headlights are only on the initial deliveries as a one off, these will be changed to rectangle after initial orders, the single cab is the only one that gets safety of side airbags etc, the dual and troopy only get 2 airbags, driver and passenger, rear seats get nothing, so it's not a car to have kids in the back.
It was never a family car, its for work and/or play. Most of the sales go to mining or similar work fleets
No video from the launch ? Surely there's something in the making with Paul ??
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The 2.8 has balance shaft hilux doesn’t
So when are you actually getting your hand on an Ineos ?
Why the hell do I want stuff like lane assist in a built on purpose 4x4? Tech we don't need or want to pay for.High/Low works fine... I'm guessing James might need a bit of help crackin a tinny too.
My ideal road trip is going as far as I can from Melbourne in my Nissan X-trail 2020 red
Nothing like being told by 3 UNI student's in their lunch room.
Boring chat guys.
Sorry to disappoint
Exactly the same feeling. It seems like these guys have no idea about off-roading; they're simply victims of modern trends and consumerism, just another chat among metrosexuals. They demonstrate zero knowledge about the real usage of off-road cars, showing a lack of understanding of the theories of internal combustion engines, and are far removed from the objective reality of what actually works in the field. Also, I wish I could ask them whether there's a power station for a Tesla Cybertruck in the middle of the Simpson Desert?
Will ineos ever offer a manual?
No one is offering a manual anything anymore. It’s just the way it is.
Nope
BmW enjin not good
4 cyl auto a no brainer as a work vehicle.
yeah, when they get rid of the v8, it will likely be replaced with the 1HZ. So the choice of i4 and i6 doesnt sound bad.
@@Pepe-dq2ib no way mate. The 1HZ is what? 96kW, and 285Nm? Who’s going to choose a 96kW/285Nm 4.2L I6 over a 150kW/500Nm 2.8L I4?
@@CM303898 maybe it was the 1HD, but it is i6 turbo diesel.
TIMING CHAINS and PLASTICS
BMW engine kryptonite
The devil is in the details: "a 4-cylinder LC can do pretty much the same as a V8". I don't think it's true after testing both cars. However, even if I'm wrong, another question arises: for how long can a 2.8-liter engine do the job of a 4.5-liter one? I don't want to hear nonsense about 'advanced technology'; both engines are already at the top of the range in terms of advanced technology. Nothing can work against basic physics. Another piece of nonsense is the supposed advantage of an automatic gearbox over a manual one for off-road driving. Seriously? The lack of full control over the car, the inability to push-start, among many other issues, are now being touted as advantages. There's nothing more to say.
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