When there is safety, there can be peace-of-mind, When there is peace-of-mind, there can be joy. When there is joy, Nerfing becomes a whole lot more fun!
Hey Captain I personally don’t mind if these commentaries run a little long if you think that all the info is useful and or important so don’t worry about long videos.
Something important to remember when determining your caps: Energy is quadrupled when velocity is doubled. So going from 70 to 140 fps yields 4 times the energy per hit.
25:02 LANGUAGE! In all seriousness I'm glad you made a video talking about safety. Its a topic that really needs to be discussed more as the nerf community continues to grow. Like you said it only takes one really bad incident in a public park for nerf to be treated like airsoft or paintball in the eyes of the law and the public.
I appreciate you posting videos addressing these topics. In today's culture it only takes one person pushing things way too far to ruin everything for everyone. Regardless of culture or local law rule zero need always apply.
Yeah, I feel you there in a different space: Board Games. That rule 0 is my big rule for 'my table' as well as the venue where we play board games in public (Granted, they listed it as Rule #1, so, yeah). A bit tangental but you'd be surprised at how some board game stuff can cause some heatedness (Games where you have to beat down other players actively like, say, Risk, or games where plans just collide in a very messy way. Imagine building a castle in a game, in a situation where you and 2 other players have the right stuff for a specific tower for their castle, but it comes down to who can get to the space first). I curated my boardgames to be less of the former, at the very least.
Ahh yes, Rule 0. Inverse of "more fun for everyone." While it is fun to try and push limits to make yourself or equipment, stronger, faster, better, the core reason for being there should be observed. Captain thanks for posting the video and giving anecdotal evidence that helps show the impact of behavior that a player may genuinely view as harmless, but impacts others significantly.
Very nicely said. I'm bad at explaining things sometimes, but now I have a video to point people to whenever the issue of Safety is brought up and I can use it in the discussions.
For "no tac gear games" you can use my solution. Use a laptop satchel bag for your magazines. I think it's preferable not to get the ones that unzip all the way down and open like a styrofoam to-go box from a restaurant just so it's less likely that you mags will spill, but I can get one of these bags for $5 at Goodwill and fit upto eight 22 round full length stick mags. As for Dystopia Rising, I think they should get rid of the stock only rule, and have stock only ammo and an fps cap of 100.
Thank you for being a voice of reason in regard to HPA. Unfortunately many people remain closed-minded in regards to HPA, and won't listen to logic. Thankfully we're seeing a shift in the paradigm. If you do make it to FoamFest next year come say hi. I've got a table of HPA goodies on display, along with other Nerf Sniper equipment, and will (fingers crossed) be hosting a talk on HPA too.
@@CaptainXavier if you can make it to Foam Flinging Skirmish the day before you'll get to see at least half a dozen HPA setups in action at 300fps games.
Thank you for this, As someone who is a player modder and moderator it's hard trying to explain to people why certain rules exist, College being one of them. This really gave good insight to options and different cultures in the community with different safety regards
I think this should be a Hobby-wide PSA, or at least a refresher on what we as hobbyists should be conscious of as a possible outlier in the milsim community.
Just beginning to watch this video, but before I get any further, I just wanted to give you props on your initial approach. This philosophy of being considerate to different cultures and leagues and such shows such great awareness on your part, Cap. Thanks for the video. I’m going to go enjoy it now.
I wouldn't be surprised if this became video of the week in the next nerf news. Also, an additional safety tip for the players that you have mentioned before but is worth mentioning again is that you should never aim for any part of the head, regardless of whether that person has eye protection and/or a helmet on. And even if your dart actually hits that person in the head when you weren't trying to hit the head, you can at least apologize about it, despite the fact that everyone knows most darts are so inaccurate that you would struggle to hit the broadside of a barn
Captain Your words are always so eloquent and well thought out. Thank you for taking the time to tackle this issue. You are the role model all Nerfers should aspire to be. Great work thanks as always for the PSA. You rock. Keep it up. Bangarang
Fun is important. Safety is more important. Communication is the name of the game - and respect for what is said (even if you don't agree with it) should be adhered to. Good video, Captain.
Thank you for this video. I have tried to start a club before and got shutdown by the school. At a new school and gonna try again since this schools admin is a lot more chill.
As for painted blasters it's why my HMG build has not just black and orange, i added a third medium gray to the color scheme as a middle color. It's not dark enough to be mistaken but does not clash with either black or orange, and in general it is visually distinct enough to avoid any public confusion.
One time I scratched the cornea of my eye with a Nerf gun and now I wear glasses. Wear your safety glasses on the battlefield so you won't have to wear glasses everywhere.
I have exploded a lipo before, but it only put black stains on the cement floor on my basement due to trying to change the connecter improperly. I learned since then. I also watch my batteries charge and if I'm not home to do it I either ask someone to watch it or not charge it until I'm available.
not attacking anyone, but it has been a concept in my life solidified by experience One idiot will always ruin things for everyone else, there are ways to mitigate this but it will happen somehow I love and appreciate that you made this video, it should be mandatory watching for mods and teams running games, as it is a broad enough covering of the concepts while not demonizing or attacking things, merely bringing to light the varied possibilities and challenges that can occur in having fun out in the hobby!! Keep on keeping on good sir!!!
Only shortened it by 3min. 😁 Daniel beat me to the Mini Xavier sighting. But in all seriousness it was a very good reminder of what everybody should be trying to do so we can all keep having fun! 👍👍
I know Dystopia Rising set down a No Half Darts rule back when half dart usually meant old school slugs and stefans, and just, never changed that. The other concern being they don't want modified darts because then you have to regulate what modifications, quality control, etc. They lean on the fact that if everything is factory made and used as directed, then any major problems are probably manufacturer problems, and not legally in their court which is wise when you're a nation-wide LLC.
Great video. Iys important to have safety that are applicable for your group demographic. I run games with scouts (10 to 14) and my rules are stock or lightly modified blasters and eye protection for all. I'm responsible for these kids and I have to hand them back to parents un hurt. Still get arguments from them about the eye pro but rules is rules Theres still plenty of fun to be had with stock.
My philosophy on loopholes is generally to find them and ask mods about them, but if a moderator says no, it's a no. As long as it's not pestering, I see no problem with looking for loopholes as long as you make sure to clear whatever you do beforehand and understand that if it's broken, a rule can always be created to say no or a moderator can just decide you can't. The worst thing that results there is we have a laugh about a silly technicality and then the loophole gets patched up before use. I also like to think that looking for loopholes can be useful in helping solidify rules. If you find a loophole that's absolutely broken and you point it out to the mods, they know what meeds fixing. The first step to fixing things is finding something that needs fixing.
Absolutely. That is very different from looking for loopholes with the intention of exploiting them. What you are describing is basically Beta testing and is VERY valuable to game designers.
I agree with the fps limits. I see the hpa builds are awesome. I own a polarstar airsoft gun. I can hit a very fps if my regulator isnt set right and also depends on what weight plastic 6mm bb i use. But at my local field i go to play at measures my joules rating and fps. And my polarstared gun is based on a m107 barrett
In Japan, Nerf battles are almost 100% stock but still require players to wear eye protection. Nerf battles are treated like Airsoft battles and most are held at Airsoft fields
I couldnt agree more Cap. I'm guilty myself of letting my "can I do this" brain get the best of me. I do have some drain blasters that need to have their single barrels decommissioned. Also jenked a co2 system that will now be a trophy only. Thank you for the I integrity to Nerf.
Safety is definitely an issue that is not addressed enough. Common courtesy is often something that is lacking. If there are families with small children playing. Don't just barge in. Talk to the parents first. Rule Zero - Don't be a dick. Definitely applies.
for HVZ safety glasses should be worn by all participants, but it should be required for the Zombies. They are the ones who are getting shot at the most... unless its an HVHVZ and then it all goes wonky, but keep wearing your eye protection.
Category 2 was my Retalicon yesterday. I had doubled retaliatory springs in it. I was checking to see if my plunger rod extended straight. The springs came out and hit me basically in the eye. I got lucky though and I'm fine.
I am not a nerfer, but as an airsofter I feel there is some overlap in our hobbies. Eye pro is a must on every field i've played. Granted, there is a difference between a plastic bb that can easily shoot someone's eye out and an objectively soft foam dart. Some nerf guns can outshoot airsoft guns and they hurt quite a bit. A lot of airsoft fields have MED, based on energy output. for example, and don't quote on me on this, each field has their own specific rules. at my home field, 1.6 joules typically is 50ft MED. MED is minimum engagement distance. It's not always followed as in the heat of battle its hard to gauge distance but it's a good guideline. Personally I have shot someone with 50ft med at 2 feet. it was an accident, and I apologized afterwards, but I shot him in the neck, if I had a highly modified gun I could've easily pierced his jugular. This isn't me demonizing modified guns or the sport in general, just an illustration of how quickly things can go wrong. Safety is everyone's responsibility, and save for a few hard and fast rules, (eye pro, fps limits etc) it is more a guideline. Like Cap said, it's more about the spirit of the rule than the law.
In regards to safety, whenever I go thrifting I buy whatever painted blasters I see, as I don't want some little kid getting it and going out in public with a toy that looks like a firearm and causes a whole big controversy because they get shot by a police officer. Not saying I'm smarter than everyone in this regard, but I know I can't trust that random strangers will understand what I understand in means of keeping the hobby alive and fun for all of us.
For me I believe that if your nerf gun doesn’t have a orange tip or doesn’t have a unrealistic paint job (neon colors or not black ) it shouldn’t be allowed in a game, I also think it would be a great idea or have a wager that says you’ll follow the rules and that your safety is to follow the rules and if you don’t then you won’t be allowed to play
Even orange tips and paint jobs really depend on the game. Hyper-realistic WWII LARP on private property in Poland where orange tips are not legally required? Not so much. City park in Chicago, absolutely. And yes, waivers are always a good idea.
Question, how far do you think FPS caps should be taken? Like if I’m cronoing at 153 at a 150 cap event would you shut it down? Crono it again? Just asking for an opinion.
I take the average of 5 darts. If none go above the cap, it is good. If the average is a couple below the cap but there is an outlier, I test again. If it is consistently above I say no. Too much toeing the line makes the line pointless.
Hey Cap, just wanted to add, *most* Hunting Rated Crossbows shoot at about 300-350 FPS. So yes anything over about 200 I would say probably isn't safe! EDIT: Unless proper gear is used and everyone knows that it will probably sting!
You are correct that f=ma. Mass and Speed are what determine how hard something hits. This means that a 1 gram dart traveling at 400fps has 4x the force of a 1 gram dart traveling at 100fps and thus 4x the "destructive potential." Obviously still not deadly, but far more likely to cause permanent eye damage. I have heard stories of stock darts causing detached retinas at close range. And remember what I said in the video. Different games will have different standards for what is "safe." Additionally, one of the topics I failed to mention in this video is modified ammo. People have been known to add metal to the heads of their darts to increase the mass to improve performance. At that point it starts getting very questionable in my opinion. A steel washer or lead sinker (both of which I have heard of being used in Nerf Darts) traveling at 400fps is a WHOLE different story.
@@CaptainXavier I got shot by a "Special Dart" once, it was a TACK glued to a dart. But yes if someone does have the proper gear then 2, 3, or 400 would be okay. But bare skin shot by 400+FPS would definitely hurt, adding Metal or other Mods could cause serious damage depending on the area hit.
Surprised nothing came up about terminology. That's a hot topic I've gotten called an asshole for having an opinion on, despite being someone who likes and handles real firearms, and respects proper etiquette that should be observed when in public versus private, because... Saying "gun" in public can elicit unintentional panic.
There were a number of topics that got missed or omitted. Dart types and terminology were among them. Referring to Nerf toys as "blasters" and not "guns" was, I thought, pretty universal at this point. I still catch myself every once and a while.
Not to be that guy, but as of Dystopia Rising 3.0 rules there is nothing in the rules book that I can see regarding using only stock blasters. There are even some locations that are allowing custom 3d printed blasters and modified blasters with some restrictions. One location allows modded and 3d printed flywheelers, but they can not use more than a 2s lipo. At my chapter I run my Dart Zone Pro (with plastic barrel and DZ waffles). These are being allowed as each chapter is now being allowed to set their own safety rules separate from what the DR overlords recommend. I even have tenitave permission to run a Caliburn at my chapter. Ok. So to amend this. The person who ran their DZP and shot someone in the face was not following the rules of "guns" at DR. The DZP is not a "stock" blaster, but can be ran at DR safely if you follow the rules. I also made sure that my location owners knew that the DZP does shoot up to 170 fps or more than double that of most factory stock Nerf brand dart blasters. We also did a safety check with it. So while it is a loophole in the rules it was also not handled in a way that was in accordance with other safety rules of DR. This is why I am allowed to run a DZP at my DR chapter, but also realise that other chapters my not allow it to be ran. Each chapter gets to say what is or is not allowed. So I guess I should count my blessings in being able to run my DZP at game.
Exactly, this was one of the chapters in my area and they have different rules. Which very much proves my point of this whole video, even within different chapters of DR safety standards are different.
I would definitely say the pvc hpa isn't an issue as far as exploding if done right, mine is rated for 240psi, I run it at 120psi with a pump that is only capable of hit 120 psi my issue with them is 90% of the time they hit way too hard unless the pressure tank is very tiny. My pvc gun can shoot 240gr lead bullets at probably 350fps(I didn't chrono it but I goes through 5/8" plywood at 15yards.) Around 100 yards slightly angled singled.
@@tatsuhirosatou5513 did I not make that clear in this take? Like I said I did 3 takes. In at least one of them I made it very clear that it is possible to make a safe PVC tank...mine just probably wasn't and I certainly could not have proved it was.
@@CaptainXavier it was a little unclear, but you are right on it being hard to prove what would be safe and unsafe to someone that hasn't messed with pvc cannons alot. I've been building pvc cannons for a little over a decade and have learned that the things to pay attention to for pure safty are the pressure ratings of the pvc, ball valve, tire valve, and PVC cement/glue and pay attention to where your tire valve is mounted, most schedule 40 pvc is good, 1/2" has a 600psi rating and 1" is 450psi. Any metal tire valve rated for full size pickup tires is fine at 120psi and I like to mount them in the flat of an end cap to get a good sold seal. If you are still nervous you could always fiberglass over the tank too.
Safety should be paramount.. doesn't take much force to dislodge ya cornea.. eye protection should be set to a standard. They do in paintball and airsoft... and some nerf blasters shoot pretty close to paintball and airsoft fps.
I live in Poland, no Orange tips required , Unlike Germany our law limits not the FPS but the projectile Energy to 17J for a full dart that is a lot of FPS... another thing is common sense. The one Nerf Arena that I know here is like 17m long..... For my Stryfe or Caliburn this is kind of dull... all in all it is all a balance between your community, local laws, enthusiast and common sense.
Exactly, different countries tries different rules. Most US States have very different laws than each other. But once you know the laws of your area then it should be, as you say, a matter if common sense. Sadly, many people lack that... :(
As someone who very much enjoys technicalities, one of my favorite things to do is find ways around rules to demonstrate to game makers why their rules need to be updated.
If you do this in a genuinely helpful manner it is very valuable to game designers. They cannot think of everything and sometimes miss critical things that can make or break the game. It is a form of ongoing Beta test. Having someone spot these issues and bring them up before hand is far better than someone exploiting it mid game and the designers having to either allow it and risk ruining the game or getting all authoritarian and coming across like tyrants.
I don't understand why someone needs a blaster to shoot over 200 fps. Maybe if they're long range only then I could understand but at that point it's more akin to airsoft than nerf.
There are lots of reasons. In Australia, for example, Airsoft and Paintball are banned. So instead they mod Nerf to take the place of those two sports. In the US, Nerf is allowed in places that Airsoft and PaintBall are not, like city parks and college campuses. The darts do not harm the site and can be cleaned up. It allows for the same level of competitive play without the issue inherent to Airsoft or Paintball.
Captain Xavier I vow war on the auxiliary bring your best man vs me and my friends. If I win I get the fdl if you win you get a kinder egg because I’m canadien
Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't realize you were foreign. Must be a language barrier problem. Let me translate. "Wut FDL-3 is ye takin aboot, eh?" ;P (I took the FDL down to work on it. It will return. Calm down. You will upset the Moose.)
Mini Xavier 6:01-6:05
Well spotted!
@@CaptainXavier wye wwwwwy whow! show me the thing.
When there is safety, there can be peace-of-mind, When there is peace-of-mind, there can be joy. When there is joy, Nerfing becomes a whole lot more fun!
No only WAR jk
@@cheesehat6420 War! What is it good for? Absolutely Nerfing!
Hey Captain I personally don’t mind if these commentaries run a little long if you think that all the info is useful and or important so don’t worry about long videos.
Something important to remember when determining your caps: Energy is quadrupled when velocity is doubled. So going from 70 to 140 fps yields 4 times the energy per hit.
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25:02 LANGUAGE!
In all seriousness I'm glad you made a video talking about safety. Its a topic that really needs to be discussed more as the nerf community continues to grow. Like you said it only takes one really bad incident in a public park for nerf to be treated like airsoft or paintball in the eyes of the law and the public.
I appreciate you posting videos addressing these topics. In today's culture it only takes one person pushing things way too far to ruin everything for everyone. Regardless of culture or local law rule zero need always apply.
Yeah, I feel you there in a different space: Board Games. That rule 0 is my big rule for 'my table' as well as the venue where we play board games in public (Granted, they listed it as Rule #1, so, yeah). A bit tangental but you'd be surprised at how some board game stuff can cause some heatedness (Games where you have to beat down other players actively like, say, Risk, or games where plans just collide in a very messy way. Imagine building a castle in a game, in a situation where you and 2 other players have the right stuff for a specific tower for their castle, but it comes down to who can get to the space first). I curated my boardgames to be less of the former, at the very least.
Ahh yes, Rule 0. Inverse of "more fun for everyone."
While it is fun to try and push limits to make yourself or equipment, stronger, faster, better, the core reason for being there should be observed.
Captain thanks for posting the video and giving anecdotal evidence that helps show the impact of behavior that a player may genuinely view as harmless, but impacts others significantly.
It's all fun and games until somebody has to call the EMTs.
Very nicely said. I'm bad at explaining things sometimes, but now I have a video to point people to whenever the issue of Safety is brought up and I can use it in the discussions.
Thanks for putting this up, Cap, boy was this needed.
L.Cpl. AngelN7.
For "no tac gear games" you can use my solution. Use a laptop satchel bag for your magazines. I think it's preferable not to get the ones that unzip all the way down and open like a styrofoam to-go box from a restaurant just so it's less likely that you mags will spill, but I can get one of these bags for $5 at Goodwill and fit upto eight 22 round full length stick mags.
As for Dystopia Rising, I think they should get rid of the stock only rule, and have stock only ammo and an fps cap of 100.
sounds like the situation for a tactical fanny pack
I just use a 1$ canvas tool apron I get at lowes.
@@commodorjack8633 That's bumbag for the non-Americans out there reading these.
Excellent Capt. this is an amazing argument and presented well and very fairly. We can tell that you're passionate about the subject.
Thank you! This is much appreciated and needed for today’s society
Thank you for being a voice of reason in regard to HPA. Unfortunately many people remain closed-minded in regards to HPA, and won't listen to logic. Thankfully we're seeing a shift in the paradigm.
If you do make it to FoamFest next year come say hi. I've got a table of HPA goodies on display, along with other Nerf Sniper equipment, and will (fingers crossed) be hosting a talk on HPA too.
I will be there and look forward to see that!
@@CaptainXavier if you can make it to Foam Flinging Skirmish the day before you'll get to see at least half a dozen HPA setups in action at 300fps games.
Thank you for this, As someone who is a player modder and moderator it's hard trying to explain to people why certain rules exist, College being one of them. This really gave good insight to options and different cultures in the community with different safety regards
I think this should be a Hobby-wide PSA, or at least a refresher on what we as hobbyists should be conscious of as a possible outlier in the milsim community.
Just beginning to watch this video, but before I get any further, I just wanted to give you props on your initial approach. This philosophy of being considerate to different cultures and leagues and such shows such great awareness on your part, Cap. Thanks for the video. I’m going to go enjoy it now.
I wouldn't be surprised if this became video of the week in the next nerf news. Also, an additional safety tip for the players that you have mentioned before but is worth mentioning again is that you should never aim for any part of the head, regardless of whether that person has eye protection and/or a helmet on. And even if your dart actually hits that person in the head when you weren't trying to hit the head, you can at least apologize about it, despite the fact that everyone knows most darts are so inaccurate that you would struggle to hit the broadside of a barn
Thank you, Captain, I am sorry this type of video is needed. If everyone lived by rule 0 then things would be much easier and a lot more fun.
Great video Captain, very different from your silly load out hammershot video. Keep up the good work for the hobby/sport. BANGARANG
This video is over one year old, soooooooooo important for every nerfer in the hobby, how does it has not more than 6k views?
Captain
Your words are always so eloquent and well thought out. Thank you for taking the time to tackle this issue. You are the role model all Nerfers should aspire to be. Great work thanks as always for the PSA. You rock. Keep it up.
Bangarang
Fun is important. Safety is more important.
Communication is the name of the game - and respect for what is said (even if you don't agree with it) should be adhered to.
Good video, Captain.
Thank you for this video. I have tried to start a club before and got shutdown by the school. At a new school and gonna try again since this schools admin is a lot more chill.
very well said captain it is something that needs to be descued
As for painted blasters it's why my HMG build has not just black and orange, i added a third medium gray to the color scheme as a middle color. It's not dark enough to be mistaken but does not clash with either black or orange, and in general it is visually distinct enough to avoid any public confusion.
A much needed and very well done video, Captain! Thank you for this!
Thank you!
One time I scratched the cornea of my eye with a Nerf gun and now I wear glasses. Wear your safety glasses on the battlefield so you won't have to wear glasses everywhere.
Thanks for doing this! And I agree with your starting point especially
A video like this has been needed for a long time. Thanks, Captain!
I have exploded a lipo before, but it only put black stains on the cement floor on my basement due to trying to change the connecter improperly. I learned since then. I also watch my batteries charge and if I'm not home to do it I either ask someone to watch it or not charge it until I'm available.
This was an incredibly thoughtful commentary. Thank you :)
God bless you for consistantly being a logical, moderate voice of reason for controversial topics in the hobby.
3 takes? 100 minutes of shooting for a concise 25 minute commentary? you sir, are dedicated!
not attacking anyone, but it has been a concept in my life solidified by experience
One idiot will always ruin things for everyone else, there are ways to mitigate this but it will happen somehow
I love and appreciate that you made this video, it should be mandatory watching for mods and teams running games, as it is a broad enough covering of the concepts while not demonizing or attacking things, merely bringing to light the varied possibilities and challenges that can occur in having fun out in the hobby!!
Keep on keeping on good sir!!!
I love this video, it brings a lot into perspective
Only shortened it by 3min. 😁 Daniel beat me to the Mini Xavier sighting.
But in all seriousness it was a very good reminder of what everybody should be trying to do so we can all keep having fun! 👍👍
I know Dystopia Rising set down a No Half Darts rule back when half dart usually meant old school slugs and stefans, and just, never changed that. The other concern being they don't want modified darts because then you have to regulate what modifications, quality control, etc. They lean on the fact that if everything is factory made and used as directed, then any major problems are probably manufacturer problems, and not legally in their court which is wise when you're a nation-wide LLC.
This is a great video and Honestly a subject that should be discussed more often in a respectful matter. for sure. Great video 👍
Great video. Iys important to have safety that are applicable for your group demographic. I run games with scouts (10 to 14) and my rules are stock or lightly modified blasters and eye protection for all.
I'm responsible for these kids and I have to hand them back to parents un hurt. Still get arguments from them about the eye pro but rules is rules
Theres still plenty of fun to be had with stock.
My philosophy on loopholes is generally to find them and ask mods about them, but if a moderator says no, it's a no. As long as it's not pestering, I see no problem with looking for loopholes as long as you make sure to clear whatever you do beforehand and understand that if it's broken, a rule can always be created to say no or a moderator can just decide you can't. The worst thing that results there is we have a laugh about a silly technicality and then the loophole gets patched up before use.
I also like to think that looking for loopholes can be useful in helping solidify rules. If you find a loophole that's absolutely broken and you point it out to the mods, they know what meeds fixing. The first step to fixing things is finding something that needs fixing.
Absolutely. That is very different from looking for loopholes with the intention of exploiting them. What you are describing is basically Beta testing and is VERY valuable to game designers.
I agree with the fps limits. I see the hpa builds are awesome. I own a polarstar airsoft gun. I can hit a very fps if my regulator isnt set right and also depends on what weight plastic 6mm bb i use. But at my local field i go to play at measures my joules rating and fps. And my polarstared gun is based on a m107 barrett
Great points Cap, thank you!!!!
In Japan, Nerf battles are almost 100% stock but still require players to wear eye protection. Nerf battles are treated like Airsoft battles and most are held at Airsoft fields
That is so awesome, I really enjoy HPA!
Well said, as always, Mon Capitaine. Also things that needed to be said, for better or worse.
I couldnt agree more Cap. I'm guilty myself of letting my "can I do this" brain get the best of me. I do have some drain blasters that need to have their single barrels decommissioned. Also jenked a co2 system that will now be a trophy only.
Thank you for the I integrity to Nerf.
Safety is definitely an issue that is not addressed enough. Common courtesy is often something that is lacking.
If there are families with small children playing. Don't just barge in. Talk to the parents first.
Rule Zero - Don't be a dick. Definitely applies.
Well said I stand by all that blather
Ooo, blather is a nice word. I am gonna steal it. ;)
13:28-14:45 Awesome.
18:58 100%!
Good words, as always, Captain !
for HVZ safety glasses should be worn by all participants, but it should be required for the Zombies. They are the ones who are getting shot at the most... unless its an HVHVZ and then it all goes wonky, but keep wearing your eye protection.
Category 2 was my Retalicon yesterday. I had doubled retaliatory springs in it. I was checking to see if my plunger rod extended straight. The springs came out and hit me basically in the eye. I got lucky though and I'm fine.
yes yes jolly good show captain Xavier. I saw that mini Xavier. I completely agree.
6:01 lol😂😂
11:37 you got,a drain blaster to hit 500 FPS!?
Yes. Put holes thru my dart net and shot a dart halfway thru a Nerf Magazine...
I am not a nerfer, but as an airsofter I feel there is some overlap in our hobbies. Eye pro is a must on every field i've played. Granted, there is a difference between a plastic bb that can easily shoot someone's eye out and an objectively soft foam dart. Some nerf guns can outshoot airsoft guns and they hurt quite a bit. A lot of airsoft fields have MED, based on energy output. for example, and don't quote on me on this, each field has their own specific rules. at my home field, 1.6 joules typically is 50ft MED. MED is minimum engagement distance. It's not always followed as in the heat of battle its hard to gauge distance but it's a good guideline. Personally I have shot someone with 50ft med at 2 feet. it was an accident, and I apologized afterwards, but I shot him in the neck, if I had a highly modified gun I could've easily pierced his jugular. This isn't me demonizing modified guns or the sport in general, just an illustration of how quickly things can go wrong. Safety is everyone's responsibility, and save for a few hard and fast rules, (eye pro, fps limits etc) it is more a guideline. Like Cap said, it's more about the spirit of the rule than the law.
In regards to safety, whenever I go thrifting I buy whatever painted blasters I see, as I don't want some little kid getting it and going out in public with a toy that looks like a firearm and causes a whole big controversy because they get shot by a police officer. Not saying I'm smarter than everyone in this regard, but I know I can't trust that random strangers will understand what I understand in means of keeping the hobby alive and fun for all of us.
I'd appreciate you releasing the 45 minute cut honestly
Hey do any of you have tips for making custom nerf melee weapons?
Look up videos on building LARP weapons. There are tons of tutorials from people with WAY more experience than me.
Captain Xavier alright thanks
For me I believe that if your nerf gun doesn’t have a orange tip or doesn’t have a unrealistic paint job (neon colors or not black ) it shouldn’t be allowed in a game, I also think it would be a great idea or have a wager that says you’ll follow the rules and that your safety is to follow the rules and if you don’t then you won’t be allowed to play
Even orange tips and paint jobs really depend on the game. Hyper-realistic WWII LARP on private property in Poland where orange tips are not legally required? Not so much. City park in Chicago, absolutely.
And yes, waivers are always a good idea.
Question, how far do you think FPS caps should be taken? Like if I’m cronoing at 153 at a 150 cap event would you shut it down? Crono it again? Just asking for an opinion.
I take the average of 5 darts. If none go above the cap, it is good. If the average is a couple below the cap but there is an outlier, I test again. If it is consistently above I say no. Too much toeing the line makes the line pointless.
^ What he said.
So many hammshots😝 is that a shoe holder that they are hanging on?
Yup
My wifes shoe holder might end up in my closet soon😁
In a world with the Nexus Pro and the Stryfe X, what are your thoughts on their usage in public super stock environments?
They are great for super stock. They both hit around 150.
Thank you so much for the response. It is much appreciated
Balther on Captain.
Hey Cap, just wanted to add, *most* Hunting Rated Crossbows shoot at about 300-350 FPS. So yes anything over about 200 I would say probably isn't safe!
EDIT: Unless proper gear is used and everyone knows that it will probably sting!
You are correct that f=ma. Mass and Speed are what determine how hard something hits. This means that a 1 gram dart traveling at 400fps has 4x the force of a 1 gram dart traveling at 100fps and thus 4x the "destructive potential." Obviously still not deadly, but far more likely to cause permanent eye damage. I have heard stories of stock darts causing detached retinas at close range. And remember what I said in the video. Different games will have different standards for what is "safe."
Additionally, one of the topics I failed to mention in this video is modified ammo. People have been known to add metal to the heads of their darts to increase the mass to improve performance. At that point it starts getting very questionable in my opinion. A steel washer or lead sinker (both of which I have heard of being used in Nerf Darts) traveling at 400fps is a WHOLE different story.
@@CaptainXavier I got shot by a "Special Dart" once, it was a TACK glued to a dart. But yes if someone does have the proper gear then 2, 3, or 400 would be okay. But bare skin shot by 400+FPS would definitely hurt, adding Metal or other Mods could cause serious damage depending on the area hit.
I know its not required but I noticed you didn't reference safe melee?
Is this, what I am doing commentary²?
You should make a bright pink combat suit
What's a non realistic looking NERF blaster? The Hades?
If I send u a stryfe will u make it full auto for me
Surprised nothing came up about terminology. That's a hot topic I've gotten called an asshole for having an opinion on, despite being someone who likes and handles real firearms, and respects proper etiquette that should be observed when in public versus private, because... Saying "gun" in public can elicit unintentional panic.
There were a number of topics that got missed or omitted. Dart types and terminology were among them. Referring to Nerf toys as "blasters" and not "guns" was, I thought, pretty universal at this point. I still catch myself every once and a while.
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Not to be that guy, but as of Dystopia Rising 3.0 rules there is nothing in the rules book that I can see regarding using only stock blasters. There are even some locations that are allowing custom 3d printed blasters and modified blasters with some restrictions. One location allows modded and 3d printed flywheelers, but they can not use more than a 2s lipo. At my chapter I run my Dart Zone Pro (with plastic barrel and DZ waffles). These are being allowed as each chapter is now being allowed to set their own safety rules separate from what the DR overlords recommend. I even have tenitave permission to run a Caliburn at my chapter.
Ok. So to amend this. The person who ran their DZP and shot someone in the face was not following the rules of "guns" at DR. The DZP is not a "stock" blaster, but can be ran at DR safely if you follow the rules. I also made sure that my location owners knew that the DZP does shoot up to 170 fps or more than double that of most factory stock Nerf brand dart blasters. We also did a safety check with it. So while it is a loophole in the rules it was also not handled in a way that was in accordance with other safety rules of DR. This is why I am allowed to run a DZP at my DR chapter, but also realise that other chapters my not allow it to be ran. Each chapter gets to say what is or is not allowed. So I guess I should count my blessings in being able to run my DZP at game.
Exactly, this was one of the chapters in my area and they have different rules. Which very much proves my point of this whole video, even within different chapters of DR safety standards are different.
I would definitely say the pvc hpa isn't an issue as far as exploding if done right, mine is rated for 240psi, I run it at 120psi with a pump that is only capable of hit 120 psi my issue with them is 90% of the time they hit way too hard unless the pressure tank is very tiny. My pvc gun can shoot 240gr lead bullets at probably 350fps(I didn't chrono it but I goes through 5/8" plywood at 15yards.) Around 100 yards slightly angled singled.
Key part, "IF done right." Anything is safe if done right. And anything can be dangerous if done wrong enough. ;)
@@CaptainXavier fair point, but I'd say my main point still stands that just because its pvc doesn't mean it's a potential grenade whenever charged.
@@tatsuhirosatou5513 did I not make that clear in this take? Like I said I did 3 takes. In at least one of them I made it very clear that it is possible to make a safe PVC tank...mine just probably wasn't and I certainly could not have proved it was.
@@CaptainXavier it was a little unclear, but you are right on it being hard to prove what would be safe and unsafe to someone that hasn't messed with pvc cannons alot. I've been building pvc cannons for a little over a decade and have learned that the things to pay attention to for pure safty are the pressure ratings of the pvc, ball valve, tire valve, and PVC cement/glue and pay attention to where your tire valve is mounted, most schedule 40 pvc is good, 1/2" has a 600psi rating and 1" is 450psi. Any metal tire valve rated for full size pickup tires is fine at 120psi and I like to mount them in the flat of an end cap to get a good sold seal. If you are still nervous you could always fiberglass over the tank too.
Safety should be paramount.. doesn't take much force to dislodge ya cornea.. eye protection should be set to a standard. They do in paintball and airsoft... and some nerf blasters shoot pretty close to paintball and airsoft fps.
TRAIN!
Trains are COOL!
I like trains.
@@philipsoressi2144 heh yes you do
From 25:19-25:25, that is the moderator not following rule 0.
This is all we need. To many new player which has no safety sense kinda annoying :(
what is the video where you say "a word from our sponsors" then out of darts says "rick" then you say "yeeassh"
No idea. One of the many K26 videos but I have no idea which one.
"New rule : no"
I can't even imagine how op a proton pack with a shield would be.
ive seen a riot shield used with a Prometheus and it was already terrifying enough
@@notfeedynotlazy With a jolt of course.
@@notfeedynotlazy :O it's the ultimate exploitation
I live in Poland, no Orange tips required , Unlike Germany our law limits not the FPS but the projectile Energy to 17J for a full dart that is a lot of FPS... another thing is common sense. The one Nerf Arena that I know here is like 17m long..... For my Stryfe or Caliburn this is kind of dull... all in all it is all a balance between your community, local laws, enthusiast and common sense.
Exactly, different countries tries different rules. Most US States have very different laws than each other. But once you know the laws of your area then it should be, as you say, a matter if common sense. Sadly, many people lack that... :(
@@CaptainXavier Yeah, Sadly it is more often "Ban it all" than "Let's investigate"
As someone who very much enjoys technicalities, one of my favorite things to do is find ways around rules to demonstrate to game makers why their rules need to be updated.
I like the way you think
If you do this in a genuinely helpful manner it is very valuable to game designers. They cannot think of everything and sometimes miss critical things that can make or break the game. It is a form of ongoing Beta test. Having someone spot these issues and bring them up before hand is far better than someone exploiting it mid game and the designers having to either allow it and risk ruining the game or getting all authoritarian and coming across like tyrants.
I don't understand why someone needs a blaster to shoot over 200 fps. Maybe if they're long range only then I could understand but at that point it's more akin to airsoft than nerf.
There are lots of reasons. In Australia, for example, Airsoft and Paintball are banned. So instead they mod Nerf to take the place of those two sports. In the US, Nerf is allowed in places that Airsoft and PaintBall are not, like city parks and college campuses. The darts do not harm the site and can be cleaned up. It allows for the same level of competitive play without the issue inherent to Airsoft or Paintball.
Captain Xavier like I said it’s more on the side of airsoft than nerf.
Mini Xavier at 6:04
Dont Drink And NERF!
"New Rule: No."
What's HPA??
High Pressure Air
Thanks for replying to a comment on a vid posted 6 months ago
Well, I get notified of all new comments, no matter how old the video is.
Hi I'm a noob
what dose hap mean
If you mean HPA, then High Pressure Air!
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Where is your fdl 3
What FDL-3?
Captain Xavier the one on your wall in story time west vs zombies 2019 check the comments
Nope, no idea what you are talking about. You are clearly seeing stuff. ;P
Captain Xavier I vow war on the auxiliary bring your best man vs me and my friends. If I win I get the fdl if you win you get a kinder egg because I’m canadien
Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't realize you were foreign. Must be a language barrier problem. Let me translate. "Wut FDL-3 is ye takin aboot, eh?" ;P
(I took the FDL down to work on it. It will return. Calm down. You will upset the Moose.)
Why does your stuff upload so late?
Sloe internet
Quality content takes time. If you want quick content,watch Drac.
@@d33pblu39 no we live in the same state. His stuff always uploads super late at night.
I have a Rival Hera That needs to be fixed if you could I would appreciate it
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