Understanding Trump's Executive Order on Immigration
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ม.ค. 2017
- In which John talks about Trump's Executive Order on Immigration in detail, what it means short term for refugees and permanent residents, and what we are still unsure about.
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Full Executive Order text: www.nytimes.com/2017/01/27/us...
The Cato Institute: Terrorism and Immigration: A Risk Analysis: object.cato.org/sites/cato.or...
The Cato Institute: "Little National Security Benefit to Trump’s Executive Order on Immigration" www.cato.org/blog/little-nati...
HR 158 - Visa Waiver Program Improvement and Terrorist Travel Prevention Act of 2015: www.congress.gov/bill/114th-c...
Announcement from DHS re: three further countries added in 2016 to the 2015 Visa Waiver Improvement act: archive.is/6MHuf
Reince Priebus, Trump's chief of staff, on Meet the Press 1/29 [Transcript]: www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press...
Odds of being struck and killed by lightning: www.lightningsafety.noaa.gov/o...
The statement from McCain and Graham: www.mccain.senate.gov/public/i...
Obama slowed but did not stop processing refugee apps from Iraq in 2011: www.washingtonpost.com/news/f...
"On average, officials say it's 18 to 24 months before a refugee is approved for admission to the U.S." www.npr.org/2015/11/17/4563953...
Refugee resettlement process under Obama: www.state.gov/j/prm/ra/admiss...
Origins of refugees resettled in fiscal 2016: www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/...
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Is there a significance to this? It's interesting and I'm very intrigued.
lucastarks it looks like he's activating the nerdfighter sleeper agents.
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here we have the next password for itsatuatara
What's up with the random capitalization? Maybe done on purpose?
lucastarks last week he started a kinda scavenger Hunt and I assume it's to do with that
Most Americans claim to be Christian, but I would like to contest that. I'm an atheist, I'm not here to challenge your faith, but I emplore all American Christians (and everybody else for that matter) to have a closer look at Leviticus. Specifically this passage:
"When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. The
foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love
them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt." (Leviticus 19:33-34)
This ban is not only unconstitutional and inhumane, it is fundamentally unchristian. Don't make the mistake of blindly accepting the atrocious actions of your newly elected head of state.
Yeah most "christians" in the US pick and choose what they like and ignore the rest. Assuming they actually read the bible and don't just parrot what someone else says is in the bible.
As a European Christian, I can only concur. American evangelical Christianity does some really mindboggling doublethink on several topics of Jesus' teachings.
OTOH, it's not as if that ban were an unanimous decision by all American Christians. Quite a lot of church leaders have criticised the ban.
varana312 Including my denomination, Church of the Brethren. But we're tiny. :)
As a European Protestant (Calvinist, to be precise), I've long since lost hope in the people who profess "Protestantism" in the States. I don't like to generalise, and I realise that I'll have to to say anything meaningful about this, but in general, they seem to have taken out every part of the Bible that talks about compassion, love, patience, moderation or wisdom, and instead left jus the bits starting with "thou shalt not"...
Ze Rubenator One thing you have to remember is that most of the news you hear about Christians here is going to be negative, since rarely do happy stories make the news. If you look for good Christians I'm sure you can find them. Also there are massive protests going on right now, I'm sure at least several of them are Christians not blindly accepting the order.
Why are people so alarmed *now*? Trump seems to be doing a pretty good job of doing exactly what he said he would. He ran on these exact issues as the main foundation of his campaign and won.
On one hand, that seems a bit late, on the other hand, better late than never.
Still, the sheer scale of _wtf are these people doing_ baffles me :s
Well, from what I understood, most of his supporters were "taking him seriously, but not literally". Every Trump supporter I talked to during the election told me I was crazy, I was taking him too literally, and he wouldn't be able to accomplish most of the items on his platform. Basically, they all thought he was just saying that stuff to get elected, and so did many people who opposed him. But now, slowly, everyone (including those who voted for him) is realizing that we should have been taking him very literally after all, because he did indeed mean what he was saying.
+Cycling in Edmonton from the Eyes of a Teen So you mean about 80% voted for hillary? Really?
Why? because most of the voting public voted against him and lets not forget many representatives of him and the GOP came out and said things like the wall were hyperbole. At the very least the man is seriously lacking of ethics or even empathy. Not to mention the way he attempts to bull government officials and companies on twitter or the endorsement of Fox news on twitter. If he continues at this rate he will be remembered as the worst president in the history of the United States and may even face trial when he is out of office.
Smerlin Disregarding the other intricacies that could be involved in that statistic, your argument is already invalid, because, in case you didn't notice, there were more than two presidential candidates.
On an internet with way too many people shouting their own viewpoints and loudly and angrily as possible, I really appreciate this informative, educational break. Thank you.
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Medicinal Healing Herbs you are confused, and my political beliefs are moderate but have nothing to do with liking anime and that is simply a common in-joke among anime fans... unless you're doing some kind of weird trolling that doesn't make sense? In which case try harder, I wonder if there's an online class you could take that will tell you how to become funnier.
Thank you John for giving insight on the Executive Order while also ending on a positive note. Your content is great because it offers explanations and analysis instead of arousing hateful emotion and fear.
"we're going to do a thing that has exactly ZERO effect, but hurts a LOT of people, but we feel good about it, so we're doing it anyway."
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Well if the ban is only to fix the vetting process I wish he would say that.
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Yeah this policy is an example of extremely outdated thinking. Back in WW2 it was cruel to out Japanese people into US concentration camps but you cannot deny Japan was a country that had mastered espionage. Plus they were all Japanese. Nowadays many ISIS sympathizers are American, as we have seen dumb teens trying to leave for terrorist countries. Plus prior administrations were more effective. In 2012 Obama achieved making immigration reach net zero, look it up.
No I was talking about the refugees, not people with greencards. I'm not sure its Islamophobic, though it appears that way. Trump has no problem having business with UAE and Pakistan.
no, because it's NOT ABOUT ISLAM, get it through your skulls. Say it with me THESE ARE POLITICAL SANCTIONS, it's about these countries governments, their actions or lack thereof.
Also isn't a ban on refugees against the Geneva Convention?
Yes. Yes it is.
people of the geneva convention are permitted to let in a certain amount of refugees. We let them in 2011 from both syria and other countries people are fleeing. This isnt a ban per say because it has a time limit. LIke john said its a 120 day ban. Not a permanent ban
chris ingram no you stupid. Not every county has to follow the Geneva conventions, especially the most powerful. Also countries have their own laws and make their own decisions.
Dank Abraham Lincoln stupid for asking a question?
chris ingram no you stupid. Not every county has to follow the Geneva conventions. countries have their own laws and make their own decisions. Countries don't have through their borders open for anybody at all so they cannot accept any refugees and not against. Geneva conventions has no power or any country.
It is so refreshing to hear an intelligent person speak on this issue. I have recently realized that with so many people blaming and arguing and pointing fingers that I have lost sight of the facts and have gotten swept up in the hate. Well now at least I know the facts and my emotions are justified. Good to know. I stand with all people unless proven otherwise by the law.
I have endless respect for this man, reinforced by every video he makes. Thank you, John, for your voice of reason and compassion amid the overwhelming chaos of this time.
Thank you so much for making this video, John. Really well explained and backed up. This is one of the reasons I love this channel.
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I love how calm you are when you're talking about this. It makes it very easy to understand what you're saying and you're able to get your own opinions in without being biased because you have facts to support it. Thank you for not just screaming 'trump is doing this, this and this all wrong.'
A refugee ban is like a grown person not talking to any strangers because one might be a murderer.
Sanguinius You'd be right if the US didn't have a year long (or more) vetting process
Christian Graulau It's more like not letting random strangers into your house because one of them might be a murderer.
Mr Jalapeno Why is this so hard?
actually it's even weirder
because everyone knows that he's doing that with the wrong kind of strangers while doing business with the backstabbers
Correction: It's more like not letting random people into your house despite the fact you have known them for months because they might be a murderer. (Side note: In the analogy, only one person got to know them so If your spouse is untrustworthy then you can worry)
Thank you for talking about this, John. I know these sorts of things are not always something you all want to discuss, but this is just so important. I'm so glad to see you lending your voice.
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This is classic Trump "art of the deal". He is putting in place an as-extreme-as-possible policy on a temporary basis. Then when he announces his extreme vetting it will seem reasonable by comparison to the temporary rules not the historical rules.
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My thoughts exactly. A lot of noise, on which he'll have to compromise, but even the compromise will be a step in his direction. Not to mention it distracts from all the other daft things he's doing...
Kind of makes me wonder whether somebody's keeping a list of all those daft things, so they can be reverted the second he leaves office ^_^
While I like this channel and think this video was generally well put together there were a few pieces of misinformation in it. While i think its safe to say this EO was poorly written and rolled out, I do think the Trump admin. was on the right path. Firstly, you say that people, such as professors, actors, activists, doctors and other high level personnel (with visas) from these countries won't be allowed into the country. That is false, there is a clause in the EO that states the Secretaries of State and Homeland security can waive the EO for individuals on a case-by-case basis. Secondly, you state that no foreign national from any of these countries has ever killed anyone in the US. Again, that is blatantly false. Either you didn't do your homework or you read that ridiculously manipulated photo of stats that Kim Kardashian posted on twitter and took it as factual. With a simple google search you can find the names of 20 individuals that moved from those countries to the US, that the US Dept. of Homeland Security stopped from plotting terror attacks on US soil. Additionally, I'll extend an olive branch and say that Tashfeen Malik, the female San Bernardino shooter, was born in Pakistan, moved to Saudi Arabia (where she was coerced to wage jihad) and thusly moved to the US. Both of those countries should without a doubt be added to the list.
Agree. Economic interests got in the way of taking the ban as far as it should have been taken, as well as the fact it was poorly written. Europe is the benchmark for how horrific things can go absorbing so many economic migrants (as most are migrants, not refugees).
Jack Inglis I see where you are coming from in terms of the EO being waived for individuals. We don't know how long that would take, but I think it's safe to say entry into the US for those "special" individuals would be quite a slow process with this clumsy admin. Additionally, I think everyone acknowledges that this EO is going to inconvenience way more people than potential terrorists it will stop. However, I would gladly take the option of having a few thousand pissed of migrants on our hand than another Ohio State attack or San Bernardino incident. Also, in regards to banning US citizens....no. No US citizens will be affected by this. This includes duel-citizenship holders from those countries. Furthermore, green card holders that were unfortunate enough to be overseas in those 7 countries while the EO was implemented will fall under the category of "case-by-case" admittance into the US upon their return. Lastly, while yes, you technically are correct on the matter of "no American has been killed by anyone from the banned countries" I would like to point you to the recent Ohio State attack where several people were injured by a Somali national who was inspired by ISIL. Also, if you wouldn't mind citing that 1 in 3.6 billion statistic, I'd appreciate that! Ultimately, this EO was just straight trash and needed more careful attention by the Trump Admin. I think at the end of the day, however, Trump is trying his hardest to not turn us into the the raging culture clash that is Europe.
Ryan Desmond thats like saying Obama was on the right path with the ACA even though it was poorly written
Jack Inglis Okay, so I read the CATO study and while I kind of believe there may have been some bias by the author to make the problem seem as small as possible I think the overall study was credible and true. With that being said, I think most people don't have a problem with the individual refugees themselves. I know I acknowledge that they are in a terrible place right now, smack dab in the middle of a war zone that is. It's even worse when you find out that most victims of fundamentalist Islamic terror are muslims themselves - not Americans. What I'm trying to get at is it's not the Syrian refugees I'm worried about, it's the radicalized/fundamentalist ISIL combatants hiding amongst the refugees acting as wolves in sheep's clothing that I'm concerned about. I realize that 99% of Syrian refugees are good intentioned people that want to better their lives and their children's lives, but at the moment the Syrian refugees are our modern day Trojan Horse. If we let a thousand refugees in and one of them is in fact an ISIL soldier who commits an act of terror on US soil that claims American lives we must ask ourselves, "was it worth it?". Is it worth risking our own safety for these refugees. This is America, I know we like to pretend to be the world's parent and make everything better and put our nose into everything but we also need to put ourselves first. One of the reasons why Woodrow Wilson isn't regarded as a total flop of a president is because his stance on isolationism was so favorable. He believed in letting the world's nations settle their own arguments and to not get involved unless the US be directly provoked. Is this a time when we should let countries surrounding Syria (*cough* *cough* Saudi Arabia) take in the refugees? Personally I can't decide what's worse, turning them away altogether, or admitting them all willy nilly. At the end of the day, they aren't US citizens, they don't have a right to live on US soil but they should be treated with dignity and respect
Ryan Desmond Saudi Arabia will not be on the list cause the US owns them a lot of money.
You're essentially telling me that I should not worry about the stranger that rolls up in a black van offering my daughter candy if she just would get in the van. He's probably just a do gooder trying to spread good tidings to young children. Further you're telling me to ban my daughter talking to all strangers would be to teach her that all people are bad and that no one does good in this world. I contend that it just makes sense to tell my daughter not to talk to strangers cause she can't determine which ones are truly good or bad. But apparently this common sense doesn't apply to the highest threat countries in the world filled with people who want to kill Americans.
Xanhorn did you not fucking hear how few people are actually killed by terrorists?!
So how many deaths are acceptable? 1000, 100, 10, 1? Do you volunteer to be the one to die in order for us to accept immigrants from high threat countries cause we didn't do everything we could to protect ourselves? Unfortunately you don't get to volunteer or that would be a great solution.
Mas van Hulzen what about it Europe? Hundreds have been killed by immigrants there. This isn't a discussion about do we want to bring refugees into the country, it's a discussion about do we want the same problem as Europe
That's an irrelevant analogy. Your daughter refraining from talking to a stranger doesn't violate his constitutional rights or force him to be trapped in a war-torn country where he's likely to be killed or worse.
Wow. just wow. You don't even know that the US constitution only applies to people in the US. I guess you skipped middle school civics class.
Thank you so much for speaking up with a passionate, clear voice & fact-based arguments on this hot mess of an order! Voices like yours are so important!
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Thanks! -John
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I seriously love it when you just break things down so people can understand them. This is my favorite thing you do on your channel. I've been so freaking confused. Thank you.
THANK YOU. John, keep on flooding TH-cam with your very thoughtful, educational videos. Youre making a difference.
John. It makes me crazy when people cite that crap about how rare it is to be killed by terrorism. The actual number of people killed is not the biggest problem. It's the robbing of security to entire communities, the cost and despair and focus away from a happy American life caused by terrorism that is the problem. You don't need too many terrorists to accomplish that. Look up that style of argument up in your Logic 101 book. Which of your children will you put on the "potential line?" Which one is expendable?
This is also just the first step in a process our country should have had in place for a long time. It's not fair to judge step one. Step Ones are almost always difficult, awkward, even chaotic.
The "robbing" of your happy American life is your own undoing. I think you missed the point. Getting stuck by lightning happens, but its so rare that it is irrational to quake in your boots, or worse yet make stupid legislation banning people from being outside on a stormy day. Terrorism happens, but its also very rare, so to make stupid legislation banning people certain refugees is irrational.
>It's the robbing of security to entire communities, the cost and despair and focus away from a happy American life caused by terrorism that is the problem.
If we're really all that concerned about how people feel about their safety then gun and car sales should be halted because they might kill someone.
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@ hydra680 -- Yes. Being struck by lightening is rare, but in a storm you'd be wise to avoid open areas and tall objects, stay away from objects that may conduct electricity, etc. -- right? The 'rarity' of a potential danger doesn't ever mean not to take every precaution. I hope you are not a parent or responsible for any other people.
First up, thank you for making such a detailed, informative video.
This stuff id bringing home for me just how difficult it is to wade through all this information about the situation, even when striving to find reliable sources and observe them with a critical eye. Upon first watching this, I thought I had identified two inconsistencies/falsehoods:
1. You stated the ban would last for 90 days, but later said it would be for 120 days.
2. You said that no Americans had ever been killed by foreign nationals from any of the countries on the list, which is contradicted by the attack at Ohio State University by a Somali refugee.
However, I rewatched the relevant sections and realised that the 90 days was in reference to the ban on legal and illegal immigrants, whereas the 120 days applied specifically to the refugee ban.
Regarding the second point, I then went over the information regarding the Ohio incident and found that no individuals had actually been killed.
My take-away from this is that, if this is how easy it is to misinterpret information from the more reliable sources, it's no wonder information gets so distorted so much when people are relying on less-than credible sources.
Thank you again for doing what you're doing.
I think on the second one he said that it included foreign ambassadors, who had never killed an American citizen.
Thank you for this we'll put together video, John. I appreciate these kinds of thoughtful videos and the time and effort you put into making them.
I really really appreciate the way you explain things. This is so sad, and short sighted. Thank you for your videos.
As an Italian, as a European, it is disheartening to see the beacon of democracy spawn from migrants and refugees turn its back on the very principles that made it so. For all the eurocentrism and cultural difference, from the other side of the Atlantic, we took pride in being aligned with a country that professed, upheld and defended such ideals. After such betrayal, we fear we might be left alone in this fight. Please prove us wrong. Thanks for the video John!
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We've actually done this several times in the past, see Irish immigration in 19th century and german/japanese in the 20th. We'll get better.
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Thanks for the analysis, John, et al. Great stuff. I made sure to share.
Thank you so much for making this!! It definitely helped me better understand what's going on!
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I have been to britbart and inforwars, their information just isn't very good.
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Thank you so much for making this, John. I have a hard time finding trustworthy sources of information and understanding. I genuinely appreciate the work you put into making this and helping educate us. [:
John, this video is so important! Thanks so much for making it!
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I've heard some suggest that it would be far more effective to help the refugees in their own countries, rather than bring them here. Should we, at least, not explore that as an option?
Far more effective, but potentially more deadly and requiring far more resources. Plus, if the latter half of the twentieth century is any indication, we're not particularly good at it.
Far more effective? We are accidentally bombing civilians in every country were dropping bombs in, not to mention accidental friendly fire incidents on allies i personally believe that people would be more inclined to move back to their homeland once the region itself stabilises.
MrRoboskippy if by effective you mean dangerous. let me ask you a question how would you react if some foreigners came to your country and aided terrorists to power and then bombed everything and everyone? and then they banned you from entering there country safely while exploiting yours for wealth. also it would make more sense to relocate refugees outside a war torn country and eliminate terrorists then relocate them back.
MrRoboskippy That's what I think is a good idea, but I know that its not really going to get explored anytime soon, atleast not by the government or major organisations. Rich people are tight with money nowadays and if it involved people's taxmoney then people would throw a fit.
like Saudi Arabia, which has a tent city with ac and everything that could house 3 million people comfortably. I'm not saying it's a panacea, but it would help
I really like how you include some counter arguments in your video, as it really adds to the discussion and brings the conversation to a more intellectual level. It is very comforting to see that there are some people who will still listen and consider different arguments and respond to them civilly rather than just shutting out all opposing voices.
So much quality in this channel. Kudos!
In times when everything is online in a minute everybody loves to talk about what's happening in the world but only a few take the time to explain what's going on. Thanks for making this video.
Thanks for the kind words! -John
Thank you for posting this, talking about it, and making that refugee playlist.
Thank you for this, i always feel I can look to you and listen. Being that I feel that you hear and are changed by the people you listen to. I look to you and your brother as voices of reason in these, dark, confused, quiet times.
Not quiet from a lack of rhetoric but quiet from reason, from thinking people who aren't struck dumb by the fear and antagonism we face.
So many reasonable people have stopped talking, have stopped listening because we are frustrated by the lack of understanding, by the lack of well, people who might listen and have something to say that isn't coming from a place of hatred and fear.
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I'm no expert on American government & politics, but shouldn't POTUS be putting forward legislation to Congress instead of taking executive action after executive action?
The President has broad powers when it comes to immigration, but part of the problem with this EO is that it is so poorly written and confusing. That could've been addressed by having more Congressional representatives (or even government departments) vetting it. -John
Do EO's commonly get vetting from congress and other parts of the government?
Generally more people are involved, yes.
I think EOs should have greater limitations.
I get that the POTUS needs to be able to act quickly in emergencies and time sensitive situations, but if the POTUS has time to consult congress and have things be voted on, then using EOs just to push stuff though without anyone else's approval, seems a little out of place in a democracy.
Just trying to be informative here, every president drops hundreds of Executive orders. It's not just a "I don't want to deal with congress". There are guidelines or limits. You can do a google search on it if you are interested. Presidents sign usually around 200-300 (roughly) executive orders during their term.
as always, thank you for posting
Thanks for the video and thank for providing that playlist!
Thank you for at least honestly trying to be unbiased in your factual reporting and acknowledging your bias when giving your opinion.
I disagree with you, and support this ban, but it is important that people discuss this rationally and with accurate information.
Stephen Albright well thank you for being civil, but you're wrong.
This ban is nothing but a mistake.
It is only going to add fuel to the jihadist fire (I wouldn't be surprised if a 9/11 esque terror attack happens in the near future.)
It's keeping not only the banned countries out but all refugees like the Burmese who desperately need to leave the country.
It violates the Asylum laws both US and international.
Look I understand being afraid of terrorism. For god sakes I was in Boston during the whole Boston marathon bombing. I was at school I had to call home get my bag searched. We walked in eggshells until the manhunt and I along with the rest of the greater Boston area was ordered to lockdown for hours. It was terrifying. .
But this ban isn't the way to fix the problem.
I respect your willingness to listen to others (it's a trait I don't often see in these days). I would like to know though: do you support the order itself (in it's totality and lack thereof), or do you support what it is trying to do? I critique the first because it was rushed and seems to be borderline illegal. I don't agree with the second... but I understand it.
L. T C. But it is not a ban. It's a suspension on immigration on those seven countries that Obama drafted during his administration that has ties tp terrorism. Immigrants are allowed to immigrate over except the seven cpuntries for 120 days.
Blood5kull, that is simply not true. The countries banned are those we have poor diplomatic relations with, which are _not_ the same as the countries from which terrorists have arrived.
Also, see HawlyAly's comment above about how "120 days" actually means "a few more years" for people who have _already_ passed rigorous screening. I don't know how anyone can justify that as a legitimate security process. And that's not just me being a whiny liberal, more than a few lawyers and right-wing security types have said the same thing. For example:
lawfareblog.com/malevolence-tempered-incompetence-trumps-horrifying-executive-order-refugees-and-visas
Blood5kull It's a ban by any other name. If it look like ban acts like a ban, what else are we going to call it? And besides it may be temporary now but there's really nothing stopping it from being extended when the deadline is reached he could just sign another order and drag it out again and again until it's basically permanent.
Gah! I did a video of similar content today.
Great video, too: th-cam.com/video/oXAjKFr1eDQ/w-d-xo.html Everyone watch this! -John
That is fine. I am more than happy to see more people getting educated about this.
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I yell, "Gah!" every time I read TH-cam comments.
Also... "GAH!"
Well spoken John. I'm, as always, proud to be a part of this community
You guys are the best, as usual. Great video.
I really don't understand US politics - how can Trump have signed an Executive Order if there are large groups of people within his own government that don't think it's legal? Surely the first thing you look at when you want to sign something is "is it legal"?
Executive orders work a little differently than legitimate laws, but even for an executive order (an order, signed by the president, that generally lasts for the duration of their term) this one is exceptionally awful.
For this to happen without legal vetting is extremely abnormal and a big warning flag for danger.
The executive branch of government (which includes the police, the military, the Customs and Border Patrol and various regulatory bodies as well as the President) are supposed to abide by and enforce the existing laws and may create directives about how they go about it. They are supposed to be limited by the Legislative branch (Congress) who can define what they can and can't do and the Judiciary branch (who can make rulings on the legality of the actions of the other two). However, federal courts in several states have now issued orders to suspend enforcement of the order and in a few places the CBP agents are refusing to acknowledge the court order or even let people who have been detained speak to a lawyer which is their legal right. That is why some people are calling this a constitutional crisis.
Rebecca Teague US code 1187.
I feel bad that this is an informative video about a serious topic but I'm just sitting here wondering what could be the answer to this week's password riddle
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Would someone mind explaining that to me? I have been a part of the community for only a few months, and I there is very little info on the web about the hidden forum and the deal with the passwords.
Sure, I can! So, a few weeks ago boxes started appearing in the background of John's videos. Someone asked about it in a comment but he just pinned it and didn't answer the question of what was in them. Last week someone asked again and he said that it was no longer the main concern. After that, someone pointed out a small picture that was on the wall and with a few guesses we discovered it was a tuatara. With the help of John we found a forum that needed a password to access it. John had left a clue and through research and the help of other Nerdfighters in the comments we were able to access the forum. Now it seems like we have a new riddle every week to access something new in the forum. It's quite fun to figure it out even if it is a bit hard. Other Nerdfighers help a lot. If you want to join you should check last week and this week's pinned comments. Hope that helped! :-)
Really enjoyed this video John. Thank you for making it.
thank you so much for this, John. Much-needed clarity have a very confusing time.
I rarely ever comment even though I've been watching since 2011, but I felt the need to say thank you for this video and especially for the playlist of refugee stories. I wasn't expecting that and I think it was the best thing you could have done. There was another executive order signed last week that has been overshadowed by this much more confusing and, to many people, devastating new law. I was hoping either Hank or John would make a video explaining about the Keystone pipeline. I don't know much about it and I can't find many sources that are clear and up front about it.
Since you mentioned listening to the refugees' stories, I thought I would recommend a book I've recently read. It's called 'Nujeen' and it tells the story of Nujeen Mustafa, a disabled kurdish girl from Syria who made the dangerous trip from Syria to Europe, in a Wheelchair! It's really an interesting book, and a heartwarming and inspiring story, and I encourage everyone to read it.
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Thank you so much for this. I know you guys didn't really want to delve into current events too much, but this is extremely helpful.
Thanks for making such an important video, and making everything a bit clearer !
"The United States cannot, and should not, admit those you don't do not support the Constitution..."
But, like one of the first things Americans did to the Constitution was reject it. There's a reason amendments exist. And the Constitution only exists because the first one (The Articles of Confederation) failed. And even that one only exists because America rejected British rule. The Constitution literally embodies a history of rejection. This country was literally founded on the belief that the people have the right to reject a government that doesn't serve them.
This one line is just a pile of horse shit.
Michael Wang How about more specifically the United States should not admit those who reject the Bill of Rights and or put their religious law i.e. Sharia Law above it. Would that not be a fair statement?
Bravo, sir. I couldn't have done a video like this without screaming obscenities. I'm glad you remain a voice of reason.
Been following you from CrashCourse videos. You never disappoint me!
I would like to kindly point out that American citizens have died in those countries due to direct actions made by terrorist organizations. American military casualties are still citizen casualties and if ISIS, Al Queda, Taliban, Boko Haram, Muslim Brotherhood, or any other terrorist organization within those countries do not have status as actual armed forces.
Edit: I should add that as a veteran of Operation Iraqi Freedom and Operation New Dawn I am greatly aggrieved at your claim.
Yeah, pretty much.
Who created these terrorist?
catali33 Regardless of who created the terrorists, the point stands. The former ranger executed by ISIS was helping Iraqis. He was an American citizen up until they removed his head. Furthermore, John Green is making the claim that the use of terror tactics, by these terrorist organizations, are justifiable acts of war. According to his premise, car bombs are only terror attacks if they are on U.S soil.
I assume he was saying on U.S. soil because this travel ban isn't going to stop American military from going overseas. If someone lost their life in military or other action outside the U.S., then a ban on certain groups of people coming into the U.S. would likely not have changed that outcome.
No what you're saying it's justifiable to misguidedly invaded a country in lieu of weapons of mass destruction. We created this. We feel justified because 2,996 as a result of the terrorist attacks. While numbers are climbing past a million. In Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan. No I don't condone what they have done but we created this! This is our problem. But trusting blind mice because at one time we thought we were doing the right thing will never bring peace. In fact we help train and create more terrorist. War equals money and power. Yet in most parts of the world when it doesn't PROFIT America we could care less.
Thanks John this vid is the least fake of all the news!
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Thank you for the clear information on what this is. It's all been confusing.
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What would you consider clear information then? I'd love to read a different analysis if you have one to reccomend.
I really appreciate this channel
Thanks John green for giving the wonderfully unbiased and objective view with all the information, i guess we can count on people like you to keep facts from dying, keep it up
Love these informational videos!
That means a lot. Thank you John.
Best video on the subject to date!!
Man, this made this entire messy situation a lot more clear to me. Thanks for being a great source of information, John Green.
WHOOOO! notification squad
even if you feel the ban makes you safer.... you have to admit at least one thing: IT WAS EXECUTED VERY POORLY!
Ariane Martins that is why it is important to have a seasoned politician run the country
Agree. Not Hillary though.
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It's a beautiful thing. Our country is finally engaged in passionate debates that cannot be avoided.
In my opinion, parking yet another career politician in the Oval Office wouldn't have brought so many to the table.
Trump is just the ultimate troll. I bet he gets a chuckle from watching the media and government officials trying to figure this shit out.
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great video john. thank you so much for making this video
I would like to thank you for this amazing video and your amazing words! keep up the great work!
My AP Lit class is reading 1984 right now, which is so appropriate given what's going on recently in politics. So naturally, I was thrilled at 2:40
omg couldn't click fast enough. thank you john
Thank you so much for explaining this, John. I have been confused about the specifics of this particular order and this cleared it up a lot. Thanks to both you and Hank for furthering education and understanding
I WAS HOPING YOU'D MAKE THIS JOHN !!!
*one somali attacked but did not kill anyone. my bad.
*I think you mean Myanmar, not Burma.
Otherwise, hear hear. this executive order is wholly damaging.
He said no one was killed.
The Somali attacker didn't kill anyone.
NoyzBot Burma/Myanmar's name is a rather touchy issue...
correction taken!
TheChiller007 In some sense... kinda.
www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/worldviews/wp/2012/11/19/why-its-such-a-big-deal-that-obama-said-myanmar-rather-than-burma/
This article explains it quite well, but it comes down to an issue of many not wanting to lend legitimacy to a government of oppression.
Here I am, wishing I could leave a hundred likes on this, because this needs to be seen by people who could actually change things.
Thank you for sharing!
I love how you had little to no bias in the video and just reporting the facts and your opinion at the end. Good job!
Thank you, John. I work with an immigrant population who are majority asylum-seekers. My colleagues and I sincerely hope DJT doesn't know the difference between refugee status and asylum, and won't find out for a while. That's the bare minimum of our hopes btw.
I honestly do not know how to feel anymore. I try to understand how people of different views can come to different positions from me. While the threat of extremist Islamic terrorism is real, it is not the most significant issue in the grand scheme of things for the reasons that you stated. However, I try to understand how the way we poorly prioritize threats and the constant exposure to these incidents on the news could lead people to think it was a much bigger issue than it really. But the fact that a law has just been implemented where a child has to be detained based solely on the place he was born and there are seriously people out there who see this and think that it is a job well done, my sympathy starts to fade. Again, not all people who were in favor of this ban I think are truly aware of its effects, but to those who are... again, I just don't know how to feel. My only hope is that we can get past this dark time in human history. My heart goes out to all those affected by this. :'(
Thank you for making this.
Nice as always
I teach at an English Language School that has mostly Middle Eastern students. Many of them are scared and confused right now. If they have questions, I'm going to send them to this video. Thanks, as always, John.
yep, damage pretty much done. What happened you USA? You used to be so cool.
Didn't a lot of the defenders argue that this was never intended to target Muslims specifically? Then why is it, suddenly? ;)
Second, this won't stop Muslims blowing you up. It will however help those who want to.
And third, "fascism" is something entirely different.
the Decoy and this is only after a week. I guess we're trying to outdo Brexit.
Millions of Americans are outraged and terrified right now. We don't know what these next 4 years will mean, but we are going to fight as hard as we can
John Faria I think it's a sign of privilege and security to be optimistic about it. It's possible it's all a business tactic, but the people he puts in charge, like Bannon for the NSC, have very real radical and dangerous stances. It threatens groups who were already vulnerable in this country. He's threatened my reproductive rights as a woman and threatened to put Muslims on a registry and he's not listening to the people when millions of them say "no, this is not what we want." That to me is reason enough to be wary. I think it's great that you're not scared but I think you have to realize that not all of us are in a place and situation where we can look at it that way.
Anthony Harvey can't see your full reply for some reason, but I'll save us both some time and quote your idol without giving any logical rebuttal or evidence, since you seem to think that's good enough to support: "wrong."
John Faria glad to hear it. Optimism is great but hard when livelihood, citizenship and rights are being threatened, unfortunately
John, thank you. Your educational videos are always helpful. You're remaining as unbiased as possible and presenting facts and logic. Thank you.
Thank you for making this. We need INFORMATIVE content right now in the midst of pure ignorance and great separation.
To be safe , and to feel safe, are two very different things. Trump won on the idea that perception is reality. Not reality is reality.
No, he lost the popular vote. So he really just won on democracy failure.
the Colossal Titan we aren't a true democracy we are a republic( In our pledge of allegiance), also, to elect a representative based purely on popular vote is a surefire way to elect the next Hitler( google Herd Mentality ). An Electoral College allows an even distribution to allow for a more balanced election. Otherwise California, Illinois, Texas, and New York would be the only people deciding who the next president would be. I didn't vote for either of the candidates. But Trump won fair and square and not by a tiny margin either. I'm just saying he won because people want to be told things are getting better. They don't actually want things to be better
Thank you for calling it "immigration" and not "Muslim"
Thank you for making this video. It's great that your clarifying this so that people who may not get a chance to see or understand the executive order itself can understand what it actually is instead of listening to rumors
You two are awesome!
Well done, John. My version of this video would have just been a stream of curse words.
John Green 2020
Armbreakfire yes please!
he doesn't want to run he said that in a video
Thanks for being so objective and saying what needs to be said!
Great video John. Educated me on a few points I was unclear about regarding the order.
One correction: Trump's executive order does not change the law in the slightest. The president does not have the authority to change the law. What it does is order immigration officers to take certain actions. The law remains the law.
Right, this is an important correction, and explains why the "no benefits" clause is illegal. -John
Another corrections: American citizens have indeed been killed by terrorist organizations operating within these countries.
my understanding is that executive orders are INTENDED to be used in an emergency. The problem is that last 8 years, the only way Obama could get anything done was by using the executive order. By my observation, anything and everything he was supposed to do as president, congress tried to stop him from doing regardless of whether or not it was his job and conservatives accused him of abusing it and threatened to take him to court.
They can't have their cake and eat it too, IMO the past 8 years and the next 4 to 8 years are gonna consist politically of rich elites with government connections and conservative politicians throwing a temper tantrum because they can't overcharge people for healthcare and a black guy wanted to make the world a better place.
And thats all anything opposing Obama publically has ever been presented to me as; a temper tantrum.
AnimeShinigami13 executive orders have perfectly legitimate usage involving the various agencies in the executive branch, and most presidents since the 1800s made a fair number - FDR the most, in association with his New Deal
2:00 Everyone needs to know this. Whether you're a liberal or conservative, this is an extremely important, unbiased fact that should not be overlooked. Please, if anything, watch at least these few seconds of the video.
Exceptionale. I am a Trump supporter and I appreciate your point of view. Even if I disagree. Thank you.
I am a Trump supporter and I appreciate your point of view. Even if I disagree. Thank you.
Obama picked all of those countries
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3:13.
Also, that's irrelevant.
One well deserved subscription and updoot for you sir.
Thank you so much for that, John. ❤