How to do a Hill Start Safely and Properly
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 เม.ย. 2017
- In this video I will show you an easy and effective way to move off on the hill. As well as showing you how to do a hill start safely and properly video and I will also explain the proper steps to take with the pedals, finding the bite and looks. I will also explain how to change gears and stop on a hill.
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can I just comment on not only great content that covers a lot of stuff most people that you pay to teach you will never clarify, but you reply to every comment and i've seen you ask people for feedback on their tests several times. you're a bloody legend keep it up mate!
Thank you very much, I appreciate that, I do my best anyway 😊👍
I'm binge watching all your videos, I've a test in less than 3 weeks , your videos are really helping ,I've learned more from you over the last week than my instructor over 12 lessons, hope I pass , I'm very nervous 😓
Best of luck with your test, email me at danetyghe@gmail.com if you have any questions.
Very good explanation and visual example of how to do hill starts.
I have been having trouble with my hill starts and finding the balance between setting the bite, gas and releasing handbrake.
I had changed instructor and previous instructor had covered very little on hill starts during lessons.
It's put that aspect of my driving behind the levels of ability with my other driving skills.
Meaning that I'm nearing my test and needing to improve a skill that should have been established much earlier.
Best wishes, practice makes perfect
I've been struggling so much to drive my mom's car since it's quite old. But then I found your videos and they have really helped me. I just wanted to leave a thank you here.
You've got a good heart, best of luck with your driving.
This is the first time I've seen someone talking about the 2 bites points which is something that totally I feel in my car and was getting confused. Thanks so much! I'll practice tonight this new tips 🙂
In some cars it's more obvious, good luck with your driving.
I passed my test today after watching loads of your vids today thanks dane GOD Bless
It's a pleasure, well done on passing your test 🎉
I can’t find any driving instruction videos on TH-cam that come close to Dane, the videos are brilliant !
You're very kind thank you 😊
You're The First guy to ever talk about the Second Bite which is what I'm familiar with.
All good things come to those who wait.
18 hours with my driving instructor and I only find out now there is 2 type of biting point on the clutch... Driving test tomorrow lol glad I found your channel tonight
Thank you and best wishes with the driving test, this is just my way of explaining it 🙂
Thanks for the great videos Dane passed my test today first time only 2 grade twos 👍🏻
Thank you, that's great to hear, congratulations on your success and best wishes 👍😊
Very clear explanations, most instructions don't have patience on the practical classes and the students loss confidence because of the instructions body language, the instructions are experts but they should know that students makes mistakes and from mistakes student will learn.
Patience is important, if a driving instructor doesn't have any then maybe they're in the wrong job.
This is extremely helpful as my driving academy didn't really clarify on these 1st and 2nd bite points, during my slope test I was in the 1st bite and wasn't aware there was a 2nd bite and I just let go my clutch too fast by accident thinking I was going to move off the slope when in the 1st bite and my car completely stalled and went backwards the slope :/ thanks so much tho
Glad to help, thanks
There isn't a 1st and 2nd bite, it's actually totally progressive - like the brakes - the further the pedal moves the more effect you get.
Yes that's correct, so the further up you get the closer the 2nd bite is. I invented it so don't be shocked at this revelation.
Excellent video
Thank you 👍
Thank u for yr exp it is helping me
Excellent video. Subscribed 😎
Thank you, stay safe
Very nice helpful video very nice explanation
Thank you
Great explanation thankyou 👍
Best wishes
Failed on my first test after cutting out like 4 times on a hill start
I thought I'd never get out of it
Never even knew there were 2 bite points
thanks so much for going through this so well
Glad to help but don't forget to give it a bit of juice as well
"Never even knew there were 2 bite points" - there aren't. It's completely progressive like the brakes. The more the pedal moves, the more effect you get.
My car has a button for a handbrake that requires clutch & brake press to release before moving to accelerate. There is meant to be hill start assist but I can find it quite difficult to move off on hills because I’m having to move quickly from brake to accelerate
Thank you Dane Very cool
I aim to please
Excellent vid
Thanks
Hi Dane, what if you are able to do a hill start without a handbrake, just brake only then quick bite point and move off without stalling, is that a mark down or a fail in driving test because I didn't use the handbrake but was successful in doing a hill start? Thank You
Hi sir, subscribed your channel. Good explanation
Best wishes
Thanks for your driving videoa
Axmed Maxamed you are very welcome
tanx sir very much helpfull
Thanks
Love your videos Dane...have really helped me!! This is 1 thing that I continue to struggle with though. I'm driving 1.5 years and my car still sometimes stutters/jerks whenever I bring clutch to bite point with gas and release hand brake. It's been bothering me a while now. Am I changing my feet too quickly or not adding gas when I release the hand brake? Many thanks 😊
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This video is on moving off, practice the 5 second rule as explained in the video, sometimes a bit of juice is helpful. Make sure you get the juice first before you lift the clutch.
Do you have to use the accelerator? If the clutch is enough for the car to move is that okay?
second bite without gaz to move off?
Hi Dane I’m just wondering when your about to carry out the hill start manoeuvre would you check mirrors as usual and indicate out right ?
If moving off from a parked position put the car in gear, signal right then check mirrors and blind spot
Hi Dane, thanks so much for these. Just wondering do you not need to indicate when moving off with the hillstart? Thanks
Yes you do but I was focused on the skills of not rolling back.
very great driving instructor ever, i have a question that is it okay to drive down steep hill in a neural gear?..thanks
Thank you, you should not drive down a steep hill in neutral as this is coasting and quite dangerous, doing this causes the car to lose its ability to slow down with the engine - engine braking. It will cause the car to go too fast and will be harder to stop.
thank you so much! another question is, if i want to climb up a very long distance steep hill, is it possible to climb, using only first gear without up shifting other gears??, since first gear has more engine power?..thank you
Hi @Dane Tyghe
When I do hill start, I do put handbrake and wait for a bite before letting go handbrake but my car stops most of times..Not sure what I am doing wrong ? I will appreciate your response please.
Try keep the clutch more steady as you move off and maybe give it some extra gas
Hi, please want a clarifications about this going up on hill...you mean as accelerate (foot on gas pedal) I also must put my foot on clutch? Because during my lessons I only press the gas!
If you don't lift the clutch you won't be able to move off
how do you get the second bite? by releasing the clutch a bit further after getting the first bite?
That's right, it'll make a slightly different noise and puts the car under a little bit more stress
When I do a hillstart, I rev up the car as you say and get the bite. When I realease the handbrake the car hardly moves and even a bit higher with the clutch it still moves off slowly especially at traffic lights. This is only a problem with handbrake starts for me. If i do a start while moving off at a junction while quickly getting to the accelerator and bite and move off and the car doesn't move off as slowly then. With the handbrake start? Should I just add more gas as I am bringing the clutch up to move away on hills quicker?
You need to get a stronger/higher bite first and foremost, perhaps a little extra juice would be no harm.
I've recently passed my driving test which was using a manual diesel car. I've now been given a manual petrol with an e brake by my company and I've been really struggling on hills. Any suggestions I could do to help? Thanks so much for your content 😊
What's the problem with the hills? You're going to have to share a bit more detailed information with me if you want me to offer you help.
@@DaneTygheletsdrive Of course! I find I'm stalling a lot when it comes to hills. Having an e brake throws me off, and so I've been opting to hold the car with the brake when on a hill in traffic. I found diesel engines a lot more forgiving with clutch control and never had an issue when learning. The car begins to judder when pulling off so I assume I havent set thr gas high enough? Thanks for your help btw! Your videos were so useful before my test 😊
Have you tried more gas? I'm sure that will help you on the hill.
Hi Dane question re. the second bite. Do you mean take your foot off the clutch after the first bite and get it again or is it all in the one step getting two bites with the one foot movement if you know what I mean?
It can be either but normally get the first bite and then the second bite is only a little bit higher.
When you stop at T junction should you lift up the hand break?
Depends if it's a hill or not, and if you stop over 5 seconds you should use the handbrake
Could I ask how would you take off down a hill?? This video hugely helped me and I'm wondering how you'd take off downhill. Thanks 😊
+Karolina Gałysa you're very welcome, on the downhill clutch in, first gear (actually you could take off in second gear on a steep down hill) keep both clutch and brake firmly pressed. Make sure it's safe to pull away then gradually release brake and clutch and let gravity do the rest.
Dane Tyghe Fab, thank you so much, you're great. 😊
Dane Tyghe wouldn’t that be coasting and dangerous???
There are times you have to coast, if you never coasted you'd never get anything done in a car.
Down a hill? Just let it happen. Good Luck!
When i was learning on very steep hill, my handbrakes didn’t work properly, sometimes car stay on steep hill easily with handbrake only but sometimes it is going backwards . Can u guide me what to do in this situation?
Firstly make sure you pull the handbrake up fully.
How to do this in automatic car? Can I use brake just to get help from roll back or its just between accelaration and handbrake.
Accelerate a bit until you feel the bite and then let down your handbrake
Hi Dan, I'm an essential worker and would ideally be able to get my test booked as soon as possible. I speak Irish, and if I was to book my test through Irish, might that speed up my wait time? Thanks.
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@@DaneTygheletsdrive That's unfair ;)
When pulling in to the left side of the ride to get in position for a hill start, do you have to indicate left that you’re pulling in?
Yes of course you do.
Do you have to use indicator when you start uphill?
If you are moving off from a parked position yes
"Keep the feet still", left on mat and right on accelerator?
Gisela Kolossa when moving off keep the feet steady.
Could you do this on an automatic? I have my test on Monday and am wondering if I park it in N is that ok?
Parking in N is fine but make sure your handbrake is fully up but you'd be better off just put it in Park - that's what it's there for.
@@DaneTygheletsdrive thanks, it's just that I find it difficult to get from p to d as it's not straight back. When I stop at a stop sign do I need to put on the handbrake every time?
Hi dane just wondering if you're in a hard shoulder and u perform a Hill start should you build Up some speed in the hard shoulder first and then pull out or wait till its clear then pull out first and then build up some speed on the road? Great vids!
If you have room it would be better to build up some speed in the hard shoulder and then gradually move out.
@@DaneTygheletsdrive perfect thanks so much!
Stay safe
Do u clutch before u break when stopping after hill start ?
Usually yes on an uphill
To go to the second bite do you have to stop accelerating or you just continue from the first bite?
Keep the acceleration steady
In the driving test are you allowed to do a hill start with brake and clutch instead of handbrake
No, use the handbrake and get the bite
what to do if car is loaded with its full capacity?? same or high revs above 3k
Depends on the car and the hill, you need to judge each situation individually.
is it bad for the car to get the bite and just rev to get acceleration?
No it's not, it's all part of moving off properly and efficiently. Why would you think its bad?
Dear Dane, could you please make a video showing your feet while doing the hill start? Thank you.
Maybe
Hi Dane, just for clarity, do you have to have your foot on the bite and the other on the accelerator at the same time while putting your handbrake down?
What do you mean foot on the bite?
@@DaneTygheletsdrive foot on the bite of the clutch
You mean holding the bite, yes. So foot on the acceleration and finding and then holding the bite. How much acceleration will depend on how steep the hill is.
@@DaneTygheletsdrive thank you 🙏
Best wishes
When the tester asks to stop and do a hill start, do u indicate in and start near the kerb? And then indicate out when starting the hill start?
Indicate left to park. Handbrake and neutral. Indicate right to pull off.
@@DaneTygheletsdrive cheers dane 🙏🙏
Stay safe
@@DaneTygheletsdrive you too😀
Stupid question but i have my test in less than three weeks and i still don’t know where to stop for pedestrians to cross apart from the flashing amber pedestrian crossroads😭😭
You'd also stop at a red light for the pedestrians to cross, also give way if a person has already started to cross the road.
Ive been doing hills starts with clutch then acceleration after the hand breaks down.... how has that been working
You tell me. How has it worked for you? It can work but you are at risk of being less smooth and efficient.
@@DaneTygheletsdrive well it definitely hasnt been very smooth! Is there anyway that accelerating too much before the hand break goes down fully could cause it to cut? Im trying to change over to doing it as i still have some trouble with hill starts but i dont seem to quite have it
Did you see me demonstrate it in the video? you need to follow the steps that I explained keep the acceleration consistent and feel the 2nd bite. You need to accelerate first then lift your clutch.
Hi Dane, I was wondering is your car a petrol car ?
Yes
Hi there Dane, again appreciate the vids. Big help.
For the driving test, should the blind spot be checked before or after hitting the indicator on the hill start/move off?
My current routine is: change to first gear, mirror and blind spot checks, indicate out, last check of rear and right hand mirror, then move off.
Does this sound OK to you?
Sorry for the long question. :)
+Conor Regan That does not sound right to me unfortunately Conor. You must always check your blind spot last because that way it is more up to date. I have a nice easy to remember routine which you can see here in this video th-cam.com/video/Y6V0AGFaO3k/w-d-xo.html
But sometimes the blind spot will need to be refreshed as you will see here at the very beginning of this video th-cam.com/video/sLjDVthx4cI/w-d-xo.html
Dp basically to answer your question the blind spot must be checked after the indicator because that way itvis more fresh and up to date. You seem to be doing the right things but you need to simplify and alter your routine slightly
☺️.
Fantastic, Thank you Dane. That makes perfect sense and the videos clear it all up.
+Conor Regan Glad to help, you're welcome!
Do u have office in Cork?
I don't have any office anywhere
Do you always need the hand brake? My truck has the foot E-brake.
What do you mean always need the handbrake? It will depend on the situation.
@@DaneTygheletsdrive I mean for an uphill start to avoid rollback. My truck doesnt have a handbrake. But Im learning that letting go of the clutch first gets it in the forward motion and it doesnt roll back, but I live in Florida so I havent had much situations for an uphill start.
Well there's 2 reasons I probably can't comment on that, because you are in a different country and driving a truck. Best for you to contact a driving school in your area, best wishes.
For the hill start, do you not check both blind spots? I notice you did for the turnabout and reverse around the corner.
You can if you want to, it's fine either way. On the Hill start I'm moving away from the area. On the turnabout and reverse I'm staying around to do the manoeuvre so that's why I look all around.
@@DaneTygheletsdrive Thanks, have my test at half 9 tomorrow so tryna get every detail right
How'd it go?
@@DaneTygheletsdrive Passed! Your vids are a great help.
Congratulations! Delighted to hear that 👍
Hello Dane when doing a downhill start in traffic or a normal hill start downhill should you balance clutch and gas then release handbrake, or should you find bite with footbrake on then release handbrake and lift footbrake off and clutch up or should you have clutch down with handbrake on and also be on the footbrake and then release handbrake and then footbrake while bringing clutch up, which method is best?
Handbrake down and then gradually release the footbrake, no need for a bite because gravity is helping you
@@DaneTygheletsdrive Thanks for the reply what if I was to find the bite and gas or bite with footbrake then release foobrake would this be wrong or is it possible.
It wouldn't necessarily be wrong but possibly unnecessary, if you get extra power with the gas and bite you may take off too abruptly on the downhill.
@@DaneTygheletsdrive Yes that makes sense also I guess it depends on steep the hill is maybe some gas and bite can help, last question can you use clutch control to edge forward downhill in traffic the same way you would on flat ground and uphill
Not advised, it's better to keep the clutch in fully and come on and off the brake to creep out in that case.
Good
Cheers
Probably a stupid question but do you have to hold the revs ?
Only for a few seconds, try not to hold too long
Callum let me clarify - you do need to hold the revs as you move off yes, especially on the hill as this gives you the power you need to do the hill start properly, if you lose the reves you may lose power and control.
Hi Dane, I have finished my EDT training with my instructor and still having problems with the hill start. The problem is that it all works while driving my instructor's car, I can easly find the bigger or as you call it second bite , and my own car (which is older, bigger and heavier) Doesn't give me any extra bite .Is there a problem with my clutch? Another thing is she was trainning me to not use the accelerator until the car starts moving. Surprisingly in her car it is possible to move on a big hill using just the bigger bite without accelerator and never had problem with it driving her car, then I drive my car and I stall nearly every time! I have my test in 2 days....
Your instructor probably has a diesel car which makes it easier to move off and that's why I always get people to give it at least a little bit of acceleration moving off - because petrol cars can be trickier.
As for your car it might be harder to find the second bite but try lift your clutch a little quicker - there might not be much of a difference between the two bites in some cars.
This video will help you to move off smoothly -
th-cam.com/video/6yq1gxVbxYk/w-d-xo.html
@@DaneTygheletsdrive Thanks a lot for your reply, I will definitely give it a go with the accelerator!
1. Second bite
2. Gas
3. Take handbrake off.
Is it okay to do that instead of
1. Gas.
2. Second bite.
3. Take handbrake off.
It's first gear, gas then second bite. You could do it the other way but it's better to generate some power first to help avoid the risk of stalling
Any tip for automatic car? Some time automatic car roll back
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I haven't yet started learning to drive but i have watched some of your videos and think I might start learning, i just want to ask can you get a second bite in a petrol car?
Yes you can, my car is a petrol and it's probably easier in a petrol car
Okay thanks so much for replying. My partner learnt and passed in a diesel car, a year later we bought a petrol, he said its different driving a petrol.
Petrol is better in town, diesel better for longer journeys
Ok thanks so much. Just another question my partner says that he cant come out of a junction quickly because the car sometimes stalls. Is there any way he can take off quickly without stalling in our petrol car.
Yes, more juice and and lift the clutch quick but not too quick
What if hand break is electronic
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follow this advice
How to stop in a hill in automatic car, my car is always roll back?
Depends on the car
Do you mean, accelerate a bit before bringing down the hand break?
Moreso as the handbrake goes down, just to give you a bit of power on the bigger hills.
@@DaneTygheletsdrive oh ok, will try practicing that today .. thank you, my trying Test is coming up , only been driving 6months so am really panicking
Good luck with your test, just take it one road at a time 😀
It is not clear what is diffrent 1st bite and second bite
Is second bit means put more accelator or
leg more up than first biting point with same accelator
2nd bite is just lifting the clutch a little bit higher to give more power moving off.
@@DaneTygheletsdrive thanks for your reply
I used to give more accelator now try same .
Once I was trying on beach then without more accelator car was stopping
It's not a case of one or the other, they both need to be used together. The clutch is to move off and stop rolling back and the acceleration is for power.
Is this car you were driving a diesel or petrol?
The second one 👆
@@DaneTygheletsdrive oh ok, do you find Diesels are different to drive when it comes to hill starts?
Probably. A little easier to move off but petrol cars suit town driving better.
Where r you live sir
Not near you I'd say. Wexford. Land of the strawberry and it's where the greatest town in Ireland is located - Enniscorthy ❤️
On the road that's very busy wouldn't 1st and 2nd bite take too long and delay the other drivers
If you are too slow getting the bites then yes. But by your logic it seems you are going to rollback anyway so I'm not sure if I understand your point.
Yes u are right I have rolled back a few times fortunately they weren't busy roads but the fear of having it happen again can cause the nerves to take its toll hence on a busy road other road get frustrated whilst I set first and second bite to make sure I take off smoothly. .
Thanks for your videos, really find them helpful!
You need to do lots of practice and you will get better and quicker with the bites
I was taught clutch up abit then add gas’s
You were wrongly informed then weren't you?
No-one explained about the second bite to me
First time for everything. Knowledge is power
Got my test in 2 hours 😂
How did you get on?
I don’t have a handbrake... I have my handbrake near my clutch
Good for you, all cars are different.
Idk why everyone is saying this video is great… why aren’t you showing the pedals?
you're so cute !
Thank you
Dane Tyghe may I ask are you from England ?
Dane Tyghe I'm here in Taiwan and I'm going to take my roadtest next week and that's my biggest problem going up the hill and changing gears …
@@aichang869 I'm certainly not from England, no offence to English people. Is as Éirinn mé (I'm from Ireland)
Dane Tyghe oh yeah…just asking I just thought you're an English man …I love the way you talk nice video really will help me a lot…thanks a lot …
Hand brake is not really needed just use the cars brake while you let out the clutch and slowly feel the bite and then give gas, Europeans make it so complicated.!
And how does that work with an inexperienced driver on a steep hill?
This is why I'm the driving teacher because I recognise that not everyone is a perfect driver like you.