BMW front suspension clicking and creaking noise fix! The ultimate guide.
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- The fix can be done with the following:
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Confirming that this fix works. My car is lowered on M Performance HAS and the clicking sound started immediately after install. Disassembly of the bolt and re-torquing to spec did not help. I followed this procedure and it's all quiet now after about 10-15 miles of driving.
Video is still helpful, but my clicking reappeared after a couple of days. I think you're onto something as the anti-sieze does help. After some more forum research, a few F80 Post members did a full disassembly of the strut and strut knuckle. A few people have reported the clicking not coming back. I tried the full disassembly and drove about 300 miles since. It's pretty silent now.
Same for me, noise came back after a week but not as bad.
Looking for option B or maybe just remove the entire bracket. 🤷🏻♂️
Maybe Tommy can help with some insight if there is a plan B
You’re a hero. People have changed out their complete steering rack trying to find the issue lol
I am those people, will confirm if this works here shortly
@@nilotheking well?
@@the_batmobile0.4 it was the ball joint on my angle kit
@Tommy L Garage you should not be putting anti seize on bolts that are torque to spec EVER. Anti seize introduces a lot of lubrication to the threads which then reduces the natural friction the nut and bolts have which the torque spec is calibrated to. By adding this lubrication you are increasing the axial load on the bolt SIGNIFICANTLY which can take the bolt much closer to its failure point. Add to that aggressive/track driving and you can have premature failure.
Please inform your viewers that they must not get anti seize on the threads, keep it to the mating faces ONLY.
Good call
My cars been in and out of the shop trying to tackle this infamous clicking noise. Going to give this a try for sure. Great video 🤘🏻🤘🏻
Please report back
report back
Those nuts are also one time use self locking nuts and should be replaced when removed.
This video is a lifesaver. I have replaced every single bushing, control arm, and wheel bearing in the front of my m4 trying to figure out the cause of this noise. Who knew it was something so simple!
Just be sure to tighten it under load
Easy fix!! Wonder how many people got ripped by shops trying to figure this out. 😂
Thank you very much for your support. replaced the strut mount there was nothing better. Now lubricated as seen in the clip and the sound disappeared on the M4 2015 with eibach pro kit springs.
Greetings from Slovenia
Glad to hear!
You really need to tighten bolts when there’s load on the shocks. Also the bolts are stretch bolts & should be replaced.
Thanks - I will try that next
Just completed this on my 2014 car it’s been clicking for about 4 years ! And it worked 👍
Happy to hear!!!!!
Is it still quiet? The noise hasn’t come back.
oh my god you’re a savior, i had this clicking noise on my e90, i had no idea what it is and shop told me that i need a new steering rack
Thank you @Tommy L Garage! This clicking sound has been driving me nuts for weeks!!!! and now I know how to solve it! Thank you!
This worked for me!
Thanks Tommy!! Saved me so much money on my F87 M2. The clicking was driving me crazy after my coilover install.
Great to hear! :)
Brotha amazing!! We have the same M3 and works amazingly. Thank you for that tip, I been fighting with this for a while till today. Fix the problem thanks to you. Again thank you so much
Super happy to hear that. Glad that will worked out.
Mine does this and I got told off bmw that every bolt they undo on the suspension they replace with brand new ones. Mines been lowered on eibach springs before I bought it so bolts probably not been changed. They had a special notice on this noise and I had to buy £160 of suspension bolts for both sides. Also got all the torque settings for every bolt. This will be a winter job when I take it off the road. Don’t shoot the messenger on this it’s what I got told by bmw and they are aware of it and apparently every bolt gets replaced. Worth the £160 to get rid of the embarrassing noise.
Thank you Tommy L. all your tips (lock stem noise fix, coder settings, etc.) have made my ownership of my 2015 f82 a much more enjoyable experience. Jon
Great to hear!
Can anyone confirm if this works for the F10 BMW M5? I have the 2012 model and my mechanic can't seem to locate the issue...CV joint boots aren't torn ...no leaking of anything...just clicks...and its real bad when I turn the wheel and drive counter clockwise.
It could indeed be the same. But I can’t confirm 100%
Did it work for your F10?
First the shifter upgrade then that… god bless you Tommy 😎 you’re finding everything that bothered my OCD ass over the years.
Wish it was this easy but in my case I believe it’s the rear differential 😞🤣
Fajny odcinek i pozdrawiam
Dziekuje!!!!
Does this apply to G20 M340i? I have the same issue on my vehicle
Yes from what I was told
My M2 did this. Local garage ended up locktighting something lol but it worked. Is this the same bolt as a pinch bolt? Some on forums have had thin friction shims put in between hub and wheel but must be a different noise
Yes it's the same
Whqt is the mission of the bracket and why it cant be adjusted as well wirh the bolt? Is like changing the way is supose to go ?
It just needs to be tightened
@@TommyLGarage but the little bracket you said it can’t touch the metal why’s that ? Sorry just wondering
@@carlosnotaro1 it vibrates
I uploaded a video testing out this solution! Good work Tommy
Done this and after one night drift session it’s clicking again.
Retighten ?
This bolt being loose is usually the cause as well as contamination between the rotor faces and wheel faces
Good point
I have spent over 1,000 trying to figure out this damn noise. I have changed rotors, brakes, wheel bearings and nothing. But thank you I will try this today.
This worked for many.
How is your car doing?
I have a M240 2021 F22 Mine dose not click when turning when stopped but only when moving. But clicks just like this. Can you suggest anything ?
Glorious, but too humid to get dirty...
haha so true
Just tried this and it worked, thank for the help!
Glad it helped! Did you use the grease I recommended ?
@@TommyLGarage I used anti seize on the bolt and any surface the washer and nut contacted, I didn’t bend the little fork out of the way, I just put anti seize on that too. The clicking is gone man I’m so happy you wouldn’t believe, haven’t tried any expensive repairs attempting to fix just been dealing with it and trying to read online to pinpoint it and your video came in clutch.
Tommy,
Those are the 763m wheels correct? what are the specs and then tires you have on Thanks!
No. They’re Richland Forged
@@TommyLGarage They look great! what are the specs?
Hi Tommy, great video and thank you. My car has been back and forth to BMW 5 times and every time they have only silence the noise for a couple of days and it comes back. I’ve carried this out yesterday and it’s fixed the noise. But just wondering when you unscrew the pinch bolt, can this move and throw off the alignment from the suspension possibly? As since BMW have been carry out there fix multiple tile my steering has been shaking between 40-80mph. It’s not wheel balancing as I’ve had this all checked and all wheels are balanced. Thanks again.
Hey there! No alignment will be altered by doing it.
Thanks Tommy!
What if you over tighten the bolt. Could this snap later with stress? If it is over tighten is it best just to replace with the same part?
I have same problem, i did all of what you did and still don t work, i have this problem only when it s hot outside
Mines makes clicking sound will only make clicking sound when it's cold -3C ,I tighten that same thing u did but unfortunately mine still makes the sound when turning, my sound is bit different tho
Yours might be related to the top strut nut
What if when your driving you hear the same noise when you step on it
I have a m2c and have this exact same sound! But I tried this and it didn’t fix it… any other spots I should try?
Did you see the ending? Bend away the bracket too
@@TommyLGarage I bent the bracket and coded everything really well as well as torqued it to spec, I was reaching my hand underneath and it kind of feels like the control arm is clicking every time it makes a noise
You the truth! Keep it coming!
Thanks !
those wheels look worse than mine..lol good tip Tommy!!
Haha I know :(. Thanks !!
Curious how you diagnosed it to that pin and arm as the issue?
How do you suppose I answer this question?
@@TommyLGarage I think this is just the engineer in me coming out. Always curious as to how someone arrived at the solution as much as the solution itself. I.e. trial and error, got it on a lift and saw it, etc...
@@ecliffg actually it’s twofold for me: online research (anti seize) and visual inspection (bracket). The latter might be more important
U mnie musialem jeszcze wymienić śrubę, w starej rozszerzyl sie gwint
Something similar happens to mine, but only when the enginge and the temperature (summer) is hot, same happened to you?
No. Happened on all temperatures
beautiful. I have a mini F60 2019 countryman. All the suspension components look identical in this video, even the adjustable damper wire cap. I have a creaking when steering but it's mostly audible inside instead of outside. I can hear it coming from everywhere, though. Lol. The creaking seems to be traveling all over the place. I tried soaking the top of the spring, rubber perch, etc. I'll have to check the bracket shown in this video and see if that's the trick. Thank you.
Let us know how it goes!
Mine only makes this noise when I break and turn wheel almost to full lock . Is this same problem / solution ?
Please response
Should be the same
Thanks so much! I was searching for replacement steering racks because I could hear the noise coming from the center of the steering rack. Tried this anti sieze trick today and it worked!!!
As a side note, I also had a bolt that was a bit loose on the steering rack mount and saw another video blaming those bolts for the creaking sound. Between the three of these bolts, my steering is smooth as butter and silent!! Thanks so much for posting this fix!!
Glad this helped!! Now, is your suspension modified or stock ?
My 335d xdrive is on air and when I go up, it creaks and groans. Think this may help? Thanks for the upload. From the UK
Yes this should
Tommy, thanks for this. One question I had is, any idea why we generally only notice the clicking after installation of the MPHAS (or other aftermarket suspension setup). That’s when I started hearing it, at least. This fix appears to resolve an issue that I would think would happen irrespective of stock or aftermarket setup. Thoughts?
My understanding is that the bracket itself gets adjusted and that’s what caused the majority of clicking.
Likely from incorrect install. If the bolt is tightened enough the bracket will move with the strut and there will be no source of vibration
Whats the brand of the front lip?? Looks good
Solid!✊🏾 nice vid! These tips are so crucial! Time saving
Appreciate it!!
1st impression: I can't believe that we've replacing struts all our lives assuming that the noise is bad spring/shock/strut bearing/mount
2nd impression: I can't believe my eyes that you just ripped that spacer out of the strut bolt......
So I did well?? ;)
@@TommyLGarage well. I most definitely can't thank You enough for mentioning this. Because any tech would call strut replacement in this case. Which obviously is wrong.
On other hand, I don't see any kind of issues leaving the bracket dangling there and not putting it back where it belongs. Antiseize will definitely keep it from making noise
I literally have the SAME exact noise, do I have to replace that nut or can I apply the seize and reuse it?
You can reuse it
Did you ever get any clicking while
Rolling? I have the same apex wheels and I’m told by some it could be the wheels themselves. Basically it sounds like a bad wheel bearing, very pattern oriented click, 2 clicks then 1. While rolling, frequency changes with speed and what not. Doesn’t happen when you have the car on a lift and spin tire though, even with pressure on the whole system trying to mimick suspension compression.
Drivers side, when i turn left and take the weight off that side, sound stops until it balances back out. You’d think wheel bearing but I’ve already had that replaced. Was just curious if you had any of that issue
Wheels won’t click. Maybe bad spacers ?
@@TommyLGarage well i thought the same thing but there is these forums I’ve come across where people with these specific apex wheels are reporting that they believe the metal make up is causing some type of friction causing the clicking. I swapped back to OEM and no issues, OEM with spacers, no issues, and apex with and without spacers, both causing clicking. Apparently even Apex themselves is aware of it. Was just curious if you had any issues but sounds like you didn’t!
@@UnworthyMotorsI have apex wheels on two of my cars, and two cars are making this noise with the apex wheels on. When I put on diffirent wheels, noise stops.
Thanks for the video !! I have the same noise mostly when the car is moving and planted on left or right. Not so much when the car is idle. Had you the same behaviour ? Thanks !
Similar. This should fix
If only all fixes were that easy lol
I know! Lol
sounds like a life of snow seasons accelerated squeak haha
hello is 2 keys of 16 is that?
Lmao I always thought that noise was from my spacers! Doing this fix on my next one.
I think I have this exact issue on my E61 ... need to do this DIY and report back!
Hope it works !
can anyone confirm that this would work on the e9x platform as well?
Pretty sure this will work with any coilover set up on any car
Thanl You so much!!!
Works like a charm!👍👍👍
Hi I have the same problem as you, my car makes clicking noises when I turn or when I pass over holes or bumps. I changed the same screw as you, but after 1 month the noise came back. Did you find anything else to change on the car?
No; this fixed my issue
Here’s me who’s just replaced two top mount bearings 😂 thanks mate
You got it! Did this work?
@@TommyLGarage I will find out next weekend and let you know! Cheers
im pretty sure i used to be subscribed to you then out of no where im not subscribed.. and i have no clue why. (F82 owner)
thanks for the vid
Ouch. Thanks for coming back!!
Took my 2014 535i MSport to the dealer due to clicking while backing up and turning.
I was told the friction discs need replaced. Service Tech handed me a quote for 1300 USD.
Will this help?
@@TommyLGarage I am def going to give it a try! Kudos to you for adding in the video insert at the end to clarify the bending of the bracket.
Unfortunately this did not work for me!!
Ugh sorry !
@Tommy are those wheels the stock M2CS wheels? if not what models please !🙏🏻
They’re Richland forged
My '22 M240i G42 is doing this. Only noticed it after I put on Apex wheels, which are much more "holey" than the OEM wheels. Wonder if that helps the sound resonate more easily?
This should helpn
@@TommyLGarage Found the problem - it's related to the metal interaction between the wheel bearing flange and the lightweight rotor hat. BMW has a SIB (SIB 34 05 17) on this and the fix is a friction ring (very thin spacer). Although, I didn't go this route. Instead, I installed 5mm Apex spacers as I wanted the wheels a little more flush, and once I did this the clicking/ticking stopped. If ever returns, I'll buy the friction rings from BMW.
Hey Tommy, is this something detrimental and affect functionality? My 21 m340 is having the same issue but less worse. 😢
Nope. It should be fine. Give it a try
@@TommyLGarage ty
You should use that anti seize on your own nuts mate those arches are rusty 🤣🤣🤣
Lmao!!
I just broke this bolt anyone know the part number?
The dealer parts department will know
What electronic torque wrench do you use for your wheels / this application? The CDI 3/8 or 1/4?
3/8
does this work with MINI r56s as well?
Should work!
what about BMW f10 and f11 ? I have same problem but this solution don't work.
These should work.
@@TommyLGarage Okey, my where i was visiting said we don't have such suspension. TY for answer. I am still driving and clicking already 1 year :D
whats the chance this will work for my 2017 mustang gt on coilovers? I have the same noise.
Should definitely work
they say its my rack and pinion :(
@@TommyLGarage
Muy bueno....peroooo......cuando se seque la grasa......😅👍
Ya nos contarás TOMMY
Gracias!
Just did this on my m2c and it worked
So happy to hear!
Can anyone confirm this for an F90???
Would work well too
Any g80 owners having this issue? I replaced pinch bolts and nuts under load with anti seize ( not on the threads). Still making the noise. On kw has kit. Everything torqued to spec. 41 lbs. Needing advise!
I have a g20 and I am experiencing the same issue😢. Any updates? I am at a shop right now
@@petes3571 yes so after letting the car sit for a while the noise went away. However after driving the car the noise comes back but only very slightly. So Its like 70% fixed lol. I can live with that
@@brandonsok1912 my shop was not able to fix it. So I am planning to take it to the dealer and let them sort it out. I assume this is something under warranty, so I am not too worried about it as long as it is not something detrimental
Hi what does the torque wrench do?
Hi. It measures the torque of the bolt
What electronic torque wrench you using?
What is NTC?
Thank you for this! I’ll be doing this tomorrow to see if it fixes mine.
Did it work?
@@TommyLGarage sure did!!
Thank you very helpful ill try it and let you know
bmw owner have the same problems as us peasants?
Haha
Could you review Auto solutions short shifter for the f8x?
If they sponsor me sure !
Based upon the forums, I thought this noise was normally fixed by replacing the pinch bolt and/or tightening the pinch bolt whilst under load (jacking up the suspension arm to simulate normal load)
This worked for me
What suspension are you on??
MPerformance HAS
I’m having a really bad vibration and uneven tire wear any suggestions anyone???
Warped rotor ?
@@TommyLGarage I’ll definitely look into it. It started as a small vibration 20,000 miles ago now the whole cabin vibrates. Warped rotors and bad struts & springs is what I have left to look at crossing my fingers. If that doesn’t work I’m selling
@@TommyLGarage soooo it was the front suspension that went out💯
My 2012 370z does the same sound
Totaled ?! :)
Tommy, good video. I wonder, however, how you came up with 55ft-lbs. The official torque value is 41ft-lbs. Could you explain why you went with 55ft-lbs?
Read it on the forum. Worked for people
What could happen if you tighten bolt too tight which will be more than 55ft-lbs?
Pretty darn cool! 👍🍻🏁🏎
Excellent, thank you! What brand are those carbon airboxes? Look nice
Thanks! They're Arma intakes, courtesy of @kiesmotorsports
Thank you. Let me go check it out now now
Sure!
Thanks a lot man, you solved my problem, i have a m2 f87 with this click noise! 👏👏👏
Glad !!
Any cure for the creaking center console when my right knee presses against it? Just kidding - but it does drive me crazy.
Haha let me look into it
@@TommyLGarage It's really the whole dash and center console - it all makes noise over bumps, as well as the door seals when going up or down a driveway, all of it super annoying! My girlfriend has a 991.2 GT3 and that car is dead solid, no interior noises over bumps at all - amazing, considering how stiff the suspension is.
Pb blaster dry lube works great for silencing creaks. Removed the trim sections and sprayed the back of it made a huge difference.
Great video Tommy, any updates, does it still work, mine F30 335i developed that kind of noise when turning at a standstill right after installing new strut top mounts, Dinan springs and Koni active shock, Will be trying that soon.
Thank you for helpful ideas.
So it works well. One thing I’d like to add I it’s better to tighten it under load. So jack it up by the rotor and then tighten.
@@TommyLGarage Thank you much.
i spend $5k and i still have the clicks
Did you spend $60 on this fix instead ?
@@TommyLGarage My entire suspension and brake system was replaced ... which means your $60 fix was included.
$5k later ... still have the clicks when hitting the brakes and when my tires hit the driveway incline ....
Thank you so much
No problem!
I’m So pleased to see you using a torque wrench, kudos but, unfortunately anti seize affects torque values
Ouch you’re right. But I torqued it above spec
@@TommyLGarage I’m sure you meant below specs Tommy lol
@@mred1341 above actually
@@TommyLGarage my understanding is that you should torque below spec when applying anti-seize (or any other kind of lubricant)
good job
You’ve saved me. Thanks a ton
Glad it helped!