Same here, great set up and I use mine on a 6th sense head with screw lock. I also will use just a small amount of chartreuse marker on about a 1/4 to 1/2 for the tip depending on conditions.
Really wished you would have included the Zman Mag Worm (7-8”). They float tail up every time and last for many fish. They’re buoyant all day long. My shakey head bites went through the roof after I switched to these.
With Zman, I don't use a typical shakey head. You can pair just about anything in their lineup with the finesse bullet hook and get the same kind of presentation. It's nearly impossible to get it stuck. That bullet will come through/over just about anything.
Could you guys do a video about fish handling, for those of us who know almost nothing about unhooking a deeply hooked fish and how to keep them healthy
Such a conscientious idea for a topic. For most of us on here that fish almost entirely for sport & respect it enough to be proud of a healthy C&R, the many themes of this topic shouldn’t go by the waist side. More important than any lures on your arsenal, are the tools to make sure you can unhook & release the fish healthy enough to thrive on! Plier tools, snag weights, different gear to unhook, how to hook a fish, fishing holding/handling, weighing, etc. all need to be made known to all anglers, & not just beginners. A true outdoorsman’s biggest pet peeve is to see someone disrespect the fragile & precious privilege of sport fishing. When I see someone holding a fish incorrectly, spending 30 fat & lazy seconds on a snag before cutting it at the most convenient length for them, leaving the hook in the mouth, etc…it makes me want to drag their actual ass out of my water way with an actual treble hook. Get a new hobby if you can’t respect this one. So yes, I’d love to hear some good advice on respecting the sport in all aspects.
The Tmacs are a solid bait in my 4 plus decades of fishing, the “hookerz” shakey worm and the robo 6 inch straight tail have been unbeatable when it comes to shakey head fishing.
Fish weightless plastics or in the mid to upper water column. A ned or neko rig may not be too intrusive either. I've been doing well on bluegill/shad swimbaits in Texas recently, while my friend basically rips a jig off the bottom, to avoid getting clumped up.
Punch Fukker - Senko and Fat Ika. When you feel the bait get stuck just hold it there to feel for movement, if you don't feel anything, don't keep pulling. Give the bait some slack and use it to "pop" the bait out and over the obstacle your butted up against and resume fishing. The Ika can be rigged either way and if the senko needs some weight try going to a bigger size.
@@240Sil They definitely have their space in the market but I dont think they are the best by any means. I think the slow float to the bottom that regular baits get definitely gets more bites in many situations. I dont use their stick baits ever. I use their lizard on a Carolina rig. I will say their ned rig stuff is okay overall. I dont like their craws texas rigged unless theres a ton of muck. You can make it so the craw is on the surface of the muck and your weight is in the muck. That's about the only time I use their craw.
I really liked the look for the Roboworm on the Shakey head more than any of the others. I use a Missile 48 and do really well on it. A strike king Ocho also does well when they want a bigger profile.
No swamp crawler? That sucks. But anyways, I thought the keitech, roboworm, and netbait all looked good. Honorable mention goes to the reaction innovations.
Ionno Tim... I mean, if anything actually stood out to me, it's that the Daiwa Neko really really functioned like how a neko worm should have even though it was on a shaky head, and now I want to see a fluke-tail Daiwa neko worm on a shaky head _!_ dat roboworm did have some shmoooth moves to it, but the T-Mac is the one that had true wave-form funktion'n'flow. /bass-guitarist
Great video Tim!! I really liked the Roboworm, Easy Shaker and the Netbaits... I have the first two in my box for drop shotting, but I am going to pick up the Netbaits to try this summer. Thanks for the insight, very helpful.
I fish senkos religiously but always wacky rigged and rarely texas rig/shaky head. After watching the zero movement it had with a shaky head i dont think id ever throw it like that again. The 2 that stood out to me was the zoom trick worm and the tmac. I like how they flutter and almost have a floating action on the tail. Great vid tactical bassin! As always informative with video proof. Your vids continue to help boost my A-Game, much appreciated my fishing brothers 👍
I was wondering why you didnt test the pro senko instead of the senko as it is so much better for the shaky head and you mentioned it early in the video ..otherwise id rank the best 1) Tmac 2) Robo 3) Keitech 4) Trick worm
Have you guys thought about hosting a Tactical Bassin bass tournament? Do it a Clear Lake, people can come meet you guys. If you ever do, I’d be happy to be on the weigh in crew. Do a half day, with a seminar after.
I have 2 old faithfuls, the tried and true Zoom Trick Worm for the many techniques, for price point, quantity, and color variations. Then the Senko-types for versatility. But seeing this great comparable study. Hands down loved the Net Bait T Mac, the Robo Worm Fat Worm actions. Knowing they have a wide array of colors and price point is game on for my style! Wow!!! Thanks for the insight. Again, Nicely done, Tim! 👍🏼👊🏼
I have tons of them but to be honest haven't thrown a worm very much. I have started using them more this spring, rigged various ways, and my confidence level in them is for sure going up. Never really doubted the effectiveness of a worm, just always reach for smthn else..
Hey Tim I'm glad no fish interrupted your test 😆 I'm going to pick the NetBait T Mac as #1 and the Robo worm as #2,,the Strike King Fat baby finnese as #3,,,The Yamamoto was a disaster and the trick worm was very disappointing.. Fellas y'all should look into getting your plastics from the little guys,,the guys that's not made a name for themselves yet but are putting out some top shelf products,,all plastics aren't the same and all plastics do not float,,look up bizz baits and Xcite baits for examples....
For shaky head fishing my favorite worms are the strike king super finesse worm, Zoom z3 Trick worm which doesn’t have salt in it so it floats really well.
If you guys do this again with other worms use Powerbait Shakey Snake, Yamamoto Cut r worm (the one with the small tail at the end), and the grande bass rattler. Good vid overall. There is also a guy I bought some home poured senkos that I was mad when I found out they floated and had no salt but I'm going to try those on a shakey head, mushroom head, or on a neko rig.
Not a good choice for the screw lock variant shakey head you're using but the Zman Mag Fattyz are awesome on a shakey head. I usually throw them on an Owner finesse head. Really buoyant and last forever.
Good video. My 2 favorites are the Keitech Easy Shaker and the Z-Man Hula Stick. Both stand straight up and have excellent tail shimmer. The hula stick has 4 tiny appendages that flutter. Both are excellent choices for a shakey head
Would be a cool added aspect if you had YOU in the bottom right so we could see what you're doing with the rod on the various retrieves. Know you explained it but just added visual. Love your stuff man!
Those same two worms drew my attention, in this line-up, and I have both of them but haven't used them much. Glad you did this video. Gonna change the batting order.
I think worms can mimic anything! Worms "obviously", leaches, eels, snakes, minnows, caterpillars, helgermites, cray fish, over sized plankton and micro organisms. They all work so well because they look like everything on the menu
Sammy Garr wish I could tag my buddy under this comment. He just caught a nice one throwing that with me here in Illinois. That’s def his go to shakey worm. Mine has to be the Z Man Mag Fattyz.
Great video Tim. I think the Roboworm, and the Flirt were killer. The T Mac was also very good. They stood up tall so fish could see them better. Some of the other ones sank too quickly for fish to see them.
Who remembers Roland Martins Tube Worms? The original stand up worm in black & chartreuse. When I asked if I could order them from a magazine my parents were concerned......."Why on earth would a child want these?" "How do you know this man?" "What are they for?" "What will you do with them?" "Has Roland ever tried to touch you?" That's when I started shoplifting tackle.
A few of these looked good but for me it's hard to beat that fat Roboworm. I had a great spring with it on a shakey head. They are versatile, durable and great colors and flat out catch fish. Thanks for another great informative video.
Can we get a video breaking down what features are important for electronics? More importantly, what features are critical for your bow or console unit (ie do I need GPS on the bow unit? Where is side imaging more important? Etc)
love the underwater footage guys...I've always liked the roboworms on a shakey head but lately I've been playing with the Berkley shaky snake and I like it alot
I really enjoy the underwater perspective of these videos-Thanks for posting 🤙🏻 I like using Bass Assassin Tapout worms-Theyvhave a ton of weird scent, soft yet somewhat durable, and the tail is made of floating plastic w/no salt.
What about the Zoom magnum trick and mag finesse trick.... they're rock and come in so many colors, the right color can blow the socks of off any other worm you throw....
Really disappointed with the Daiwa Neko Straight. Great profile for a shakey head worm. Legendary Yamamoto soft plastic. Good color selection. Daiwa is well known and proven for precision and professional quality. Just didn't stand up for long on the bottom. I can't see how it would work better for neko rigs. Must be loaded with salt and too heavy for shakey head/neko rigs. I think it would be a solid choice for wacky rigs and drop shots.
boy i gotta say roboworm is good no doubt...but day in day out in the summertime im zoom purple wacky rig with a yamagatsu offset shank number 1...if they aint biting that color go to red zoom...if they aint nailing that green pumkin...sometimes the night before i put kosher salt and chopped garlic in the bag...if you dont catch 20 go find another lake cause there aint no bass in thar
He's just hopping them along. Not much to see and no one is really concerned about seeing. We want to see the action of the baits underwater, as that is all that's really important here....
You should try some of the trick worms from Radfish lures (which is a fairly local company). Their soft plastics float and have action like no others I've seen.
Roboworm fat and keitech for sure. Those looked awesome. Low 60s water, is that still Cali? Water is in low 80s here in midwest. Love the underwater stuff!!
I think most of those worms looked better when they were hopped along the bottom rather then dragging and shaking them over the rocks. but I liked the action of the roboworm, strike king, and netbait the best.
The Roboworm and the Keitech stood out to me. I've always stuck mostly to the Zoom so this was cool to see
T Mac for me
For shakey heads I use the Grande bass lures air tail wiggler the tail floats no matter what and tackle warehouse sells them
Same here, great set up and I use mine on a 6th sense head with screw lock. I also will use just a small amount of chartreuse marker on about a 1/4 to 1/2 for the tip depending on conditions.
Really wished you would have included the Zman Mag Worm (7-8”). They float tail up every time and last for many fish. They’re buoyant all day long. My shakey head bites went through the roof after I switched to these.
I wish there was some zman elaztech stuff in here. I think it would stand up much better than the other worms.
The finesse worm z is the only worm I use on the shakyhead now
With Zman, I don't use a typical shakey head. You can pair just about anything in their lineup with the finesse bullet hook and get the same kind of presentation. It's nearly impossible to get it stuck. That bullet will come through/over just about anything.
I really like the zoom worms and the GrandeBass airtail wigglers. They always float up!
Could you guys do a video about fish handling, for those of us who know almost nothing about unhooking a deeply hooked fish and how to keep them healthy
Such a conscientious idea for a topic. For most of us on here that fish almost entirely for sport & respect it enough to be proud of a healthy C&R, the many themes of this topic shouldn’t go by the waist side. More important than any lures on your arsenal, are the tools to make sure you can unhook & release the fish healthy enough to thrive on! Plier tools, snag weights, different gear to unhook, how to hook a fish, fishing holding/handling, weighing, etc. all need to be made known to all anglers, & not just beginners. A true outdoorsman’s biggest pet peeve is to see someone disrespect the fragile & precious privilege of sport fishing. When I see someone holding a fish incorrectly, spending 30 fat & lazy seconds on a snag before cutting it at the most convenient length for them, leaving the hook in the mouth, etc…it makes me want to drag their actual ass out of my water way with an actual treble hook. Get a new hobby if you can’t respect this one. So yes, I’d love to hear some good advice on respecting the sport in all aspects.
Really liking the roboworm and netbait. Thanks for the video!
The Senko looks like weekend at Bernies after watching how those others reacted.
Lmao. Looks a bit “labored”
I love the Netbait T Mac and the Super T Mac for Neko rigging.
The Tmacs are a solid bait in my 4 plus decades of fishing, the “hookerz” shakey worm and the robo 6 inch straight tail have been unbeatable when it comes to shakey head fishing.
1:02 : Zoom Trick Worm
2:23: Daiwa 5.8 Neko Straight
3:36: Roboworm 6" Fat Straight Tail
4:49: Strike King Fat Baby Finesse
6:29: Reaction Innovations Flirt Worm 6.95"
7:57: Keitech Easy Shaker 4.5"
9:33: Yamamoto 5" Senko
10:58: Net Bait T-Mac
thank you bro
Any chance of you guys doing a video of how to fish lakes or ponds with a mucky sludge bottom?
I wished they did that + covering giant "rock" from the bank
Fish weightless plastics or in the mid to upper water column. A ned or neko rig may not be too intrusive either. I've been doing well on bluegill/shad swimbaits in Texas recently, while my friend basically rips a jig off the bottom, to avoid getting clumped up.
Punch Fukker - Senko and Fat Ika. When you feel the bait get stuck just hold it there to feel for movement, if you don't feel anything, don't keep pulling. Give the bait some slack and use it to "pop" the bait out and over the obstacle your butted up against and resume fishing.
The Ika can be rigged either way and if the senko needs some weight try going to a bigger size.
Depending on how much muck, a football head jig works great and creates a nice mud bloom when dragged on the bottom.
Berkley Bottom Hopper is my go to shaky head worm, sticks straight up and has great action.
"What I really liked was 5 outta the 6 worms used in this video"... 😆🤣 lol
#1 TH-cam channel. Thank you for everything Matt and Tim!
#1 Bass fishing channel.
That keitech was absolute money to me, next was definitely the roboworm
I usually throw a biospawn plasma tail and zman trick worm. Thanky for adding to my arsenal.
You guys should’ve tried the reins bubbling shaker
There are soooo many worms out there. We couldn't test them all. Maybe next time
extremely useful video....would have liked to see some ZMAN or elaztech strike worms on a shaky head...great stuff
Timothy Metcalf - Shhhhhhhhh.
@@240Sil They definitely have their space in the market but I dont think they are the best by any means. I think the slow float to the bottom that regular baits get definitely gets more bites in many situations.
I dont use their stick baits ever. I use their lizard on a Carolina rig. I will say their ned rig stuff is okay overall. I dont like their craws texas rigged unless theres a ton of muck. You can make it so the craw is on the surface of the muck and your weight is in the muck. That's about the only time I use their craw.
I really liked the look for the Roboworm on the Shakey head more than any of the others. I use a Missile 48 and do really well on it. A strike king Ocho also does well when they want a bigger profile.
Roboworm, Keitech, and T-Mac were my favorites. Thanks for all the research y’all do for us. 👌🏻👍🏻
Those 3 looked great!
Those were my favorites too
No swamp crawler? That sucks. But anyways, I thought the keitech, roboworm, and netbait all looked good. Honorable mention goes to the reaction innovations.
It was on the list to film but didnt get to it.
Ionno Tim... I mean, if anything actually stood out to me, it's that the Daiwa Neko really really functioned like how a neko worm should have even though it was on a shaky head, and now I want to see a fluke-tail Daiwa neko worm on a shaky head _!_
dat roboworm did have some shmoooth moves to it, but the T-Mac is the one that had true wave-form funktion'n'flow.
/bass-guitarist
Great video Tim!! I really liked the Roboworm, Easy Shaker and the Netbaits... I have the first two in my box for drop shotting, but I am going to pick up the Netbaits to try this summer. Thanks for the insight, very helpful.
I fish senkos religiously but always wacky rigged and rarely texas rig/shaky head. After watching the zero movement it had with a shaky head i dont think id ever throw it like that again. The 2 that stood out to me was the zoom trick worm and the tmac. I like how they flutter and almost have a floating action on the tail. Great vid tactical bassin! As always informative with video proof. Your vids continue to help boost my A-Game, much appreciated my fishing brothers 👍
I was wondering why you didnt test the pro senko instead of the senko as it is so much better for the shaky head and you mentioned it early in the video ..otherwise id rank the best 1) Tmac 2) Robo 3) Keitech 4) Trick worm
Grande Bass Airtail rattlers.?. Looks like robo/TMac action but larger. Outstanding tail action!!!Have you tried these Tim??
I will have to check them out
Have you guys thought about hosting a Tactical Bassin bass tournament? Do it a Clear Lake, people can come meet you guys. If you ever do, I’d be happy to be on the weigh in crew. Do a half day, with a seminar after.
Add the Hags Tornado to the list.....I love this Worm....it stands straight up, great colors, and shimmies with the current
I have 2 old faithfuls, the tried and true Zoom Trick Worm for the many techniques, for price point, quantity, and color variations. Then the Senko-types for versatility. But seeing this great comparable study. Hands down loved the Net Bait T Mac, the Robo Worm Fat Worm actions. Knowing they have a wide array of colors and price point is game on for my style! Wow!!! Thanks for the insight. Again, Nicely done, Tim! 👍🏼👊🏼
I have tons of them but to be honest haven't thrown a worm very much. I have started using them more this spring, rigged various ways, and my confidence level in them is for sure going up. Never really doubted the effectiveness of a worm, just always reach for smthn else..
Hey Tim I'm glad no fish interrupted your test 😆
I'm going to pick the NetBait T Mac as #1 and the Robo worm as #2,,the Strike King Fat baby finnese as #3,,,The Yamamoto was a disaster and the trick worm was very disappointing..
Fellas y'all should look into getting your plastics from the little guys,,the guys that's not made a name for themselves yet but are putting out some top shelf products,,all plastics aren't the same and all plastics do not float,,look up bizz baits and Xcite baits for examples....
For shaky head fishing my favorite worms are the strike king super finesse worm, Zoom z3 Trick worm which doesn’t have salt in it so it floats really well.
Great video. Zoom Magnum Shakey Head works pretty good. That 6" Roboworm 👍
My lake is always mud brown and flooded. Rubber of any type rarely gets hits and I have used the same baits in other waters and they worked there.
Take a look at the Netbait Contour Worm, it is super good on a shakey head
If you guys do this again with other worms use Powerbait Shakey Snake, Yamamoto Cut r worm (the one with the small tail at the end), and the grande bass rattler. Good vid overall. There is also a guy I bought some home poured senkos that I was mad when I found out they floated and had no salt but I'm going to try those on a shakey head, mushroom head, or on a neko rig.
Z-man 7" Finnesse Worm is my #1 Shaky Head worm.
Every thing from Z-man just kicks ass
Not a good choice for the screw lock variant shakey head you're using but the Zman Mag Fattyz are awesome on a shakey head. I usually throw them on an Owner finesse head. Really buoyant and last forever.
Good video. My 2 favorites are the Keitech Easy Shaker and the Z-Man Hula Stick. Both stand straight up and have excellent tail shimmer. The hula stick has 4 tiny appendages that flutter. Both are excellent choices for a shakey head
Big Bite looked best to me. Keitech impressed me too.
Would be a cool added aspect if you had YOU in the bottom right so we could see what you're doing with the rod on the various retrieves. Know you explained it but just added visual.
Love your stuff man!
Thanks bud!
Thanks bud!
You guys just keep posting the best bass fishing info out there. One day I hope to go out and fish with you guys!
ordered $200 with your link and recommendation, THANKS A BUNCH!
We're happy to help 👍
Those same two worms drew my attention, in this line-up, and I have both of them but haven't used them much. Glad you did this video. Gonna change the batting order.
Matt: so how many times do you want to say '' so lets take a look''
Tim: Yes
Thats Tim
I seriously love these underwater lure videos keep these coming.
I think worms can mimic anything! Worms "obviously", leaches, eels, snakes, minnows, caterpillars, helgermites, cray fish, over sized plankton and micro organisms. They all work so well because they look like everything on the menu
Try the bio spawn plasma tail work on a shaky head
Sammy Garr wish I could tag my buddy under this comment. He just caught a nice one throwing that with me here in Illinois. That’s def his go to shakey worm. Mine has to be the Z Man Mag Fattyz.
Try out the grande bass airtail wiggler. You can also put a rattle in the tail and seal it with super glue so the tail still floats.
Going fishing this morning 👍 thanks for the videos guys!!
Great video Tim. I think the Roboworm, and the Flirt were killer. The T Mac was also very good. They stood up tall so fish could see them better. Some of the other ones sank too quickly for fish to see them.
Well, I was shockingly unimpressed with some of these, but the T-Mac and Roboworm really impressed me.
I'm starting to use the Z man Finesse worm Z in the 4 and 7 inch....the Elaz Tech stands straight up in the water!!!
That roboworm quivering looked sick
Big Bites Squirrel Tail is my favorite on the shaky head. Just as good wacky rigged with a nail weight.
Anything net bait makes I have caught big bass on it great product !
You guys should check out the bizbaits dizzy diamond great shaky head bait super buoyant and great action
Would be awesome to see how the z-man elaztech baits do. They are super buoyant
#1 Roboworm #2 Netbait
Who remembers Roland Martins Tube Worms? The original stand up worm in black & chartreuse.
When I asked if I could order them from a magazine my parents were concerned......."Why on earth would a child want these?" "How do you know this man?" "What are they for?" "What will you do with them?" "Has Roland ever tried to touch you?"
That's when I started shoplifting tackle.
A few of these looked good but for me it's hard to beat that fat Roboworm. I had a great spring with it on a shakey head. They are versatile, durable and great colors and flat out catch fish. Thanks for another great informative video.
The GrandeBass Airtail Wiggler is definitely the best looking for me
Yea they look great. Have you had much luck on it yet?
I was gonna say this! Caught plenty of fish
Can we get a video breaking down what features are important for electronics? More importantly, what features are critical for your bow or console unit (ie do I need GPS on the bow unit? Where is side imaging more important? Etc)
love the underwater footage guys...I've always liked the roboworms on a shakey head but lately I've been playing with the Berkley shaky snake and I like it alot
Big bite baits squirrel tails are awesome!!!
I really enjoy the underwater perspective of these videos-Thanks for posting 🤙🏻
I like using Bass Assassin Tapout worms-Theyvhave a ton of weird scent, soft yet somewhat durable, and the tail is made of floating plastic w/no salt.
Should try the googan baits worms on the underwater camera...
That might as well have been a commercial for robowor. Damn! That looked really good under water
GREAT vlog Tim for sure. Robo worm had allot of float for sure.
The Net Bait looked really good on bottom. I really would've liked to have seen the zman magnum finesse
What about the Zoom magnum trick and mag finesse trick.... they're rock and come in so many colors, the right color can blow the socks of off any other worm you throw....
Once again Tim gets so excited lol great job, that's a lot of work to do, last worm my favorite 👍👍👊🍺🍻
Really disappointed with the Daiwa Neko Straight. Great profile for a shakey head worm. Legendary Yamamoto soft plastic. Good color selection. Daiwa is well known and proven for precision and professional quality. Just didn't stand up for long on the bottom. I can't see how it would work better for neko rigs. Must be loaded with salt and too heavy for shakey head/neko rigs. I think it would be a solid choice for wacky rigs and drop shots.
Thanks for the video very informative
What type of shakey head jig did you use? Was it a stand up shakey head jig?
Awesome video! Thanks!
boy i gotta say roboworm is good no doubt...but day in day out in the summertime im zoom purple wacky rig with a yamagatsu offset shank number 1...if they aint biting that color go to red zoom...if they aint nailing that green pumkin...sometimes the night before i put kosher salt and chopped garlic in the bag...if you dont catch 20 go find another lake cause there aint no bass in thar
my best results on a neko have been reaction innov flirt 6.9 , strike king kvd , roboworm fat , netbait t mac.
Excellent footage. I would love to see the corresponding footage of you working the worm to create that movement. Great stuff dude.
He's just hopping them along. Not much to see and no one is really concerned about seeing. We want to see the action of the baits underwater, as that is all that's really important here....
What about the Googan Baits -Slim Shake?
i use grandebass airtail!
Roboworm fat and the T-Mac did it for me, the Keitech just behind them
You should try some of the trick worms from Radfish lures (which is a fairly local company). Their soft plastics float and have action like no others I've seen.
Great demo of worm action.
Roboworm fat and keitech for sure. Those looked awesome. Low 60s water, is that still Cali? Water is in low 80s here in midwest. Love the underwater stuff!!
What’s a good jig setup for 400$ ?
A great option imo is dobyns 734 fury. Super sensitive for like $120.
I will give it a try this year👍🏻
I think I'll try the robo-worm. thanks Tim.
Zoom and Roboworm hands down. Great video Tim!!
I think most of those worms looked better when they were hopped along the bottom rather then dragging and shaking them over the rocks. but I liked the action of the roboworm, strike king, and netbait the best.
Would like to see ZMan tested next grouping. Liked that T-Mac, too
Thank you sooooo much, I’ve been wanting to see this for a loooong time
Anyone else notice how much the glare from the water changes as the bait enters the water? Think it matters in clear water? I think so.
Grande bass airtails stand straight up and have great action, Texas, Shakey how ever you fish em. Plus you get 14 in a pack under 5 bucks
Awesome video been looking for a good shakey head worm since berkley got rid of their shakey head worm.
Try 5150 brand plastics. Garlic flavored,and they float.
Zoom and robo worm are reign IMO honorable mention to tmac
Yep changing up the line up. Robo is up first
Been trying the shacky head lately, thanks for some suggestions. 👍🎣