This was a lot more fun than I thought it would be. There was a couple of times I was laughing, looked up and saw Erik knocked most of the plates to my side and then rushed some shots. There was not much time in between each round. Enough to jam magazines get situated and roll again. I like the idea of going further out with the tree. Have a great and safe New Years everyone.
Looking forward to many more videos from you two. Thanks for joining the team and I am looking forward to picking up many more shooting tips from you guys. Especially for hunting scenarios......loved the comment about dope and unlimited dial in shots. Lol. You have a Happy New Years as well sir.
@@wilfdarr couple of reasons, main reason on the rear scope cap is if I have it rotated to the right I can hit it with my right hand as I work the bolt. It’s not constant but enough to annoy me. The second reason is purely aesthetics.
Great shooting on the fly! I envy the devotion, skill and mastery displayed...in coming up with excuses! Seriously, some awesome shooting skill displayed here. Harder to do than some may think. Thank yall for taking time to make it.
That was fun to watch, thanks for doing it. Obviously the tree wasn't stable and the plates bounced all over but you guys rolled with it. All in good fun and entertaining.
This was a fun video. Welcome Jason. Erik, thank you for the information you shared during this past year. You continue to have a huge positive impact on the precision shooting community, keep up the good work. Hope this next year will be the best for you both and your families.
To make the tree work properly you have to tilt it more towards you. The higher the caliber the more you tilt and it will make it so you only move one target at a time most of the time. I designed mine so it is adjustable on the angle. Fun watching you two shoot. Keep the videos coming.
That was great! What a bittersweet moment for me. My deceased brother and I would have "contests" like that all the time. Of course, the loser would always have something to complain about.
i greatly enjoyed this so much as a reloader, once rifleman, hunter , designed my own ultra reduced center fire rifle ammunition for special purposes. all inside 42 yards of knowledge and experience. now iam disabled but not helpless. I definitely reload , shoot when iam up to it , hunt and fish when i feel up to it . i can’t shoot like I did 30-40 years ago. also copd I can’t get my breathing setteled down for higher power scopes . cross hair bouncing around every where. but it’s ok 👍. Iam hitting most of the time what I aim at . took a. fine deer maybe a week or two ago. i have known several years the days coming a can’t hunt no more and limited shooting . it’s ok 👍. I’ve been blessed to live a life many men dream of. no complaining its getting older and life . you young men tak care of your self especially your eyes. Nana and papa wishing you well and the best of all things great and wonderful
Much respect to both shooters. Much respect to the calibers as well. At 500 yards I just realized how much energy those rounds really have. What a fun competition.
I’ve never seen a dueling tree take that kind of abuse. It was getting tossed around at 500, I don’t know why I’m surprised when I know that round can drop a deer in it’s tracks at 400 yards.
"It's a dueling tree not a shoot at me whenever you get a chance tree" LMAO That killed me... Good shooting and great video as always keepem coming brother!!!
I've heard from someone who work with someone... 😂 Snipers are superstitious, and some of them are mad when the gunsmith litterally ordered them to give back the gun to remove the copper fouling. But As I said I heard this from a gunsm... Guy who know a guy.
@@northman77 I know a few people that when it comes to their rifle they are very superstitious. Literally have a cleaning rod that they only use on that gun and it can’t touch any other gun.
Thanks Erik for great information this year . I hope you have a Great new year . Jason nice to see you on the channel . Have a good one also . From Australia
It's always fun to shoot, what had me laughing is that back in my Marine days, every Marine qualified at 500 yards with a standard M16 using iron sights. granted they were not 6inch paddles but silhouette targets, still just using your eyes and iron sights it was a very small target. Continue having a great time.
One of my best friends and I shoot together all the time, doing stuff like this and challenging each other on the range. Great video of some really good times. 👍🏼
If you want some other dueling fun, you can find those plastic easter eggs that come apart at dollar stores. Fill them with Tannerite and place them at distances (of course each person has same distance) but one shooter has red eggs, other has green. Have third person place eggs out at distances either from hangers, or on stands(cardboard) and have an unknown distance shooting comp. The eggs will pop without being a big thing, but still visible at any distance. With a field like what you have a competition like this would be pretty fun.
Gotta mention this. When I was 19, the Range owner's grandson and i would do trick shooting on Friday night's if no one else was around. With sights - we both were almost equal. Handguns - we were equal too. So - the challenge was - [ No Sights!] We knocked the sights off 2 rifles and we shot until we had a winner. That night - we were dead equal on NRA 20 yd targets. The last target - was a paper target at 24 yds - laying flat on the sand. One shot each. Doug hit a 6 ring. Mine cut from the 5 ring - across the X and out to the 7 ring. I got the BS award for a week. Thank you! Nice shooting to both of you!
I may have a similar AR -308 set up , but my hat is off to mr old school bolt gun. HUMBLING ! goes to show us all -- it's the man behind the trigger ! Well Done Sir
Afterwards the SpecialForces sniper says now that we practiced are you ready for the real deal. I hired to 2 paintball professional players to be at 45 degrees from us on both sides and they will be equipped with BB guns while a 3 guy I hired will be firing firework mortars in our direction. Then after we hit our targets we are going to hike 20km while those BB guys are chasing us in their ATV to get to our truck and then go have a beer. READY !😆
I'm glad to see you shooting a good old 308 rather than a Creedmoor.🙂 The 308 seems to still have a lot of energy at 500 and it looked like the tree was leaning to the left a little causing a disadvantage for Eric.
I will always have a 308. They are so much fun to shoot and work on fundamentals with. My next 308 rifle is being built around the Berger 200.20x with a 26” barrel
That definitely looked like fun. I've shot a lot of dueling tree but never at distance with a rifle. Looks like a neat challenge. Good work both of y'all.
Fiercest competition I have seen in a while. Two grown men turning into 10 year olds right before my eyes. Awesome!!!!!!! Was fully expecting to hear: "Mom, he's breathing on me" at some point. Anxiously waiting on the rematch.
I have to hand it to Jason for keeping focused while your brass kept flying passed his face . just a suggestion, you need to dial your gas back , your over gassed . if your AR was running properly they should have landed about 4:00. other than that ,it was a lot of fun watching.
Why would you shoot from the same platform when recoil = vibration and thus any vibration through the shooting platform could throw off the aim and at 500 yards those millimetres could turn into inches effectively turning into a miss ? so the one that fires first will also shoot more accurately than the one that fires second because of that deviation, the further you shoot the more the deviation is. Separate platforms would have been better.
What scope power did you both set to view the 500 yards target? Assuming 100 yards = dead on, how much drops @ 500 yards? Did you readjust the sight after barrel heat up?
I was in my max setting and had 3.2 mils dialed on my turret. Was hold about 0.5mils right for wind. That is roughly 57.6” of drop and 9” for wind. At least that’s what she is saying.
This would be interesting with a Marine non-sniper as their rifle qual includes shooting from the 500. Used to do it with iron sights, now they use an ACOG.
The tree needs a little detent or something on either side to "catch" the paddle when it flips. Something where the force of a round will flip it but a bounce back will not. And yeah, I'd love to see this at a longer distance. 500 yards is way too easy for your guys!
Depending on the THICKNESS of the target plates, (probably a minimum of 3/8” AR500 steel), you can prevent the targets from flopping around by installing the tree post with a significant (approximately 15•) angle. This way, the projectile energy will flip the target plate around to the other side, and it should stay there. *THATS YUR PROBLEM *
PUSH IT TO 1000 YARDS.. USE TORSO SIZE TARGETS . USE YOUR MATCH RIFLE TO HIS RED RIDER AND YOU MAY WIN... JUST KIDDING. GREAT VIDEO GOD BLESS THANK YOU YOUNGMAN FOR YOUR SERVICE
It’s hard not to root for the guy that served our country in a special forces military unit, but Erik is such a nice guy and good sport that it makes it a lot harder to pick a side. Fortunately that was not too serious, so no pride was really harmed in this video.
This is a great fun shoot. Enjoyed it on the scale of one to ten___a twelve. The tree was flipping the targets multiple times from single shots. You need to set up a different type of contest, where it is the first to hit his targets, wins.
The duelling tree not working right actually made this more funny. Haha
It absolutely did.
It was classic! You think Shannon will let us do dueling trees in the PRS? 🤣🤣
Yep!
@@ilikepiepls Yup, worked really well for you.
Yea that tree sniffed a line of something before you guys started lol.
I was cracking up the whole time. That .308 was pushing all the targets to the other side with one shot lol. That was a great video 👍🏼
LMAO
This was a lot more fun than I thought it would be. There was a couple of times I was laughing, looked up and saw Erik knocked most of the plates to my side and then rushed some shots. There was not much time in between each round. Enough to jam magazines get situated and roll again. I like the idea of going further out with the tree. Have a great and safe New Years everyone.
Looking forward to many more videos from you two. Thanks for joining the team and I am looking forward to picking up many more shooting tips from you guys. Especially for hunting scenarios......loved the comment about dope and unlimited dial in shots. Lol. You have a Happy New Years as well sir.
I have to say that was fun, cool, and kept you on the edge!!! Hit one and three roll. Hit one and it bounces back in place!!! Great job!!!!
platter of assssssse was handed
Hey Jason, I have a question: why are your scope caps on the left side of your scope? With your experience I'm guessing its not an accident?
@@wilfdarr couple of reasons, main reason on the rear scope cap is if I have it rotated to the right I can hit it with my right hand as I work the bolt. It’s not constant but enough to annoy me. The second reason is purely aesthetics.
Great shooting on the fly! I envy the devotion, skill and mastery displayed...in coming up with excuses! Seriously, some awesome shooting skill displayed here. Harder to do than some may think. Thank yall for taking time to make it.
Special Forces Sniper doesn't look for all the excuses found on a public range, like a pro shooter...whahahahaha...great duelling guys!!!!
That was fun to watch, thanks for doing it. Obviously the tree wasn't stable and the plates bounced all over but you guys rolled with it. All in good fun and entertaining.
Both these guys doing videos together is going to be awesome!
Great video! I love that the tree took any predictability out of the match. You guys make a great team. The trash talking adds to the humor.
Practical accuracy at its best, wouldn't want either of these two to put a bead on me at any range. Great fun video!
That looked like a lot of fun. Playing the duelling banjos as a soundtrack during the shooting would’ve been Awesome 🤩
- Good Shootn Boys
This was a fun video. Welcome Jason. Erik, thank you for the information you shared during this past year. You continue to have a huge positive impact on the precision shooting community, keep up the good work. Hope this next year will be the best for you both and your families.
Loved it! That poor dueling tree I don't think it was made for .308.
Two good sports, the banter between the both of you makes this video awesome
To make the tree work properly you have to tilt it more towards you. The higher the caliber the more you tilt and it will make it so you only move one target at a time most of the time. I designed mine so it is adjustable on the angle. Fun watching you two shoot. Keep the videos coming.
I wouldn’t want either of you guys to be shooting at me!!! Thanks for sharing your videos and keep them coming please.
That was great! What a bittersweet moment for me. My deceased brother and I would have "contests" like that all the time. Of course, the loser would always have something to complain about.
Sorry to hear that man, may he rest in a better place and watch over you 🙏🏾🕊
I’m sorry for your loss. Memories like that are beyond words priceless
i greatly enjoyed this so much as a reloader, once rifleman, hunter , designed my own ultra reduced center fire rifle ammunition for special purposes. all inside 42 yards of knowledge and experience. now iam disabled but not helpless. I definitely reload , shoot when iam up to it , hunt and fish when i feel up to it . i can’t shoot like I did 30-40 years ago. also copd I can’t get my breathing setteled down for higher power scopes . cross hair bouncing around every where. but it’s ok 👍. Iam hitting most of the time what I aim at . took a. fine deer maybe a week or two ago. i have known several years the days coming a can’t hunt no more and limited shooting . it’s ok 👍. I’ve been blessed to live a life many men dream of. no complaining its getting older and life . you young men tak care of your self especially your eyes. Nana and papa wishing you well and the best of all things great and wonderful
Much respect to both shooters. Much respect to the calibers as well. At 500 yards I just realized how much energy those rounds really have. What a fun competition.
I’ve never seen a dueling tree take that kind of abuse. It was getting tossed around at 500, I don’t know why I’m surprised when I know that round can drop a deer in it’s tracks at 400 yards.
"It's a dueling tree not a shoot at me whenever you get a chance tree" LMAO That killed me... Good shooting and great video as always keepem coming brother!!!
Dueling Tree needs some LUBE!! LOL This was too much fun to watch!! Thanks for sharing and Happy New Year fellas!! God Bless.
Its going to tick off Erick when he finds out Jason hasn't cleaned his barrel in over 400 rounds! 🤣
Hahahaha.
I've heard from someone who work with someone... 😂 Snipers are superstitious, and some of them are mad when the gunsmith litterally ordered them to give back the gun to remove the copper fouling. But As I said I heard this from a gunsm... Guy who know a guy.
@@northman77 I know a few people that when it comes to their rifle they are very superstitious. Literally have a cleaning rod that they only use on that gun and it can’t touch any other gun.
@@ilikepiepls next time you see them, Let them know I use 7.62 corrosive ammo and I clean my 7.62x39 rifles and my 1000 yards 308 with the same rod 😂
@@northman77 I’ll do you one better- I don’t just use the same rod I use the same brush
It’d be cool to see a video explaining Jason’s DOPE math and the relation to F-Class and/or PRC competition if there is any.
Thanks Erik for great information this year . I hope you have a Great new year . Jason nice to see you on the channel . Have a good one also . From Australia
I think we need to invent a heavy-duty dueling tree and make this a real competition event!
Use that new machine shop to beef up that tree, maybe some bushings to slow the travel and heavier targets?
It's always fun to shoot, what had me laughing is that back in my Marine days, every Marine qualified at 500 yards with a standard M16 using iron sights. granted they were not 6inch paddles but silhouette targets, still just using your eyes and iron sights it was a very small target. Continue having a great time.
One of my best friends and I shoot together all the time, doing stuff like this and challenging each other on the range. Great video of some really good times. 👍🏼
Same here, only we shoot eggs of Off golf tees at random yardages. 2 at each distance, 5' apart...300 to 600 yards
I really enjoyed that guys. Semi vs Bolt action :D
Happy New Year!
Erik….. Thank you both for an awesome video.
If you want some other dueling fun, you can find those plastic easter eggs that come apart at dollar stores. Fill them with Tannerite and place them at distances (of course each person has same distance) but one shooter has red eggs, other has green. Have third person place eggs out at distances either from hangers, or on stands(cardboard) and have an unknown distance shooting comp. The eggs will pop without being a big thing, but still visible at any distance. With a field like what you have a competition like this would be pretty fun.
Fantastic suggestion. I added this to my list
Erik? You got smoked !! Awesome vid. Look forward to more input from Jason and you.
Gotta mention this. When I was 19, the Range owner's grandson and i would do trick shooting on Friday night's if no one else was around. With sights - we both were almost equal. Handguns - we were equal too. So - the challenge was - [ No Sights!] We knocked the sights off 2 rifles and we shot until we had a winner. That night - we were dead equal on NRA 20 yd targets. The last target - was a paper target at 24 yds - laying flat on the sand. One shot each. Doug hit a 6 ring. Mine cut from the 5 ring - across the X and out to the 7 ring. I got the BS award for a week.
Thank you! Nice shooting to both of you!
Outstanding video! That was Great, guys! Happy New Year from Georgia!
This is good. Pushing each other outside the normal. Hopefully, they don’t get jealous of each other. Good luck you two.
Jason and Erik,you guys are awesome. Happy New Year gents 🤙⚔️
I may have a similar AR -308 set up , but my hat is off to mr old school bolt gun. HUMBLING ! goes to show us all -- it's the man behind the trigger ! Well Done Sir
That looked like a lot of fun. My cousin and I have identical rifles so we're going to have to try this.
Now THAT would be a great match up!
That is a shocking result nobody could have predicted!!!! It is going to bother Erik the entire week.... :P Love the video!!
Go Jason ! 👏🏻 Great video guys.
This is great 👍
Alot can be learned from the both of you.
ERIC AND JASON YOU GUYS ARE F'N GREAT LOVE THE COMPETITION.
Nice to see the humor and sure glad none of that A10 brass went down someone's t-shirt. Thanks. J.
That was great! Had a smile on my face the whole time.
That was great to watch!!!
It’s only a “hunting rifle”, with a “hunting scope”!
With "factory ammo" ...Berger makes good stuff!
Afterwards the SpecialForces sniper says now that we practiced are you ready for the real deal. I hired to 2 paintball professional players to be at 45 degrees from us on both sides and they will be equipped with BB guns while a 3 guy I hired will be firing firework mortars in our direction. Then after we hit our targets we are going to hike 20km while those BB guys are chasing us in their ATV to get to our truck and then go have a beer. READY !😆
Love the videos guys! Made me laugh and we all need more of that in today's world. Thank you and God bless you guys!
I've never seen your vids, I could tell Jason was SF just by that intense look in his eyes. Watched 3 minutes, subbed! You 2 are funny as F!
Hey great episode. I found your channel through 4AW (Mark and Sam).
I'm glad to see you shooting a good old 308 rather than a Creedmoor.🙂 The 308 seems to still have a lot of energy at 500 and it looked like the tree was leaning to the left a little causing a disadvantage for Eric.
I will always have a 308. They are so much fun to shoot and work on fundamentals with. My next 308 rifle is being built around the Berger 200.20x with a 26” barrel
Like everyone else I was laughing for this! Amazing video! Just having fun!
This was fun to watch. Thanks guys.
The only part of Jason’s firearm that moved was the bolt and magazine follower. Period👍🏻Great vid guys
I like the way he was so calm , relaxed and laid back till the conditions were agreed to then just jumped
Holy cow. Those impacts are moving more than one target plate at a time!
Way to Go Jason!
This is going to be fun watching both of you guys pro shooters I can't wait for more videos thanks🇺🇸🇺🇸
I got money on Jason...
That was fun to watch, thanks for that! Looks like y'all had fun tooà
This is good content. Enjoyed watching, love the humor
That definitely looked like fun. I've shot a lot of dueling tree but never at distance with a rifle. Looks like a neat challenge. Good work both of y'all.
That was really cool to watch for what ever reason I just got a kick out of that. Good job Jason way to show em !!!!!!
no matter who won...that was excellent shooting on both parties..great video guys.
I just saw this one. Great fun. And give some love and respect for the .308 workhorse. (Of course, Erik wins a lot of stuff with .308 W., too.)
Jason has that thousand yard stare . I wouldn't want to piss him off . I see pain in his eyes. Nothing but respect 🙏
This was great to watch, I miss Arizona and Texas.
Id like to hear what a sniper sets his rifle too. And if they use 243 or223, 308 or 30.06.
Fiercest competition I have seen in a while. Two grown men turning into 10 year olds right before my eyes. Awesome!!!!!!! Was fully expecting to hear: "Mom, he's breathing on me" at some point. Anxiously waiting on the rematch.
We have a dueling tree that is specifically made for rifles but still works with pistols. All terrain stable too.
Great looking targets
I’ll be in soon to purchase
Thank you!
I have to hand it to Jason for keeping focused while your brass kept flying passed his face . just a suggestion, you need to dial your gas back , your over gassed . if your AR was running properly they should have landed about 4:00.
other than that ,it was a lot of fun watching.
We discussed this after the fact. There is a fix coming.
There is actually a thing call, “Too much power.” Good video!
What its all about at the end of the day HAVING FUN🤣
Great video! Looked like a lot of fun!
Cool video man the dualing tree looks fun to do.keep em coming and God bless
You can tell the difference in composure and professional approach....it's clear to see.
This is perfect!! Think it’s a good match for ya. Jason great to have a with us (so to speak)
Excellent video chaps, keep up the good work!
That was awesome, great shooting guys.
Why would you shoot from the same platform when recoil = vibration and thus any vibration through the shooting platform could throw off the aim and at 500 yards those millimetres could turn into inches effectively turning into a miss ? so the one that fires first will also shoot more accurately than the one that fires second because of that deviation, the further you shoot the more the deviation is. Separate platforms would have been better.
Did they tab/yomp 50k with with 40kg packs first, just to make it 'more real' ? ;)
Not much better in life than going out with a fellow enthusiast for a day of enjoying the sunshine and sending some lead downrange. I'm jealous!
Looks like you guys will be building a new dueling tree...that can handle 308, without flipping all the paddles. Fun video, thanks
You were stringing shots after the barrel got hot. I have the same issue, after 10 or 12 rounds it starts opening up.
I was pulling for Jason and I am happy with the outcome. Erik you might want to practice up cause Jason is bringing the heat! :-)
#TeamJason
Barrel temperature later in the string? What's the issue with that upper left disc?
No matter who won still fun just to watch you guys shoot both very smooth shooters.
What scope power did you both set to view the 500 yards target?
Assuming 100 yards = dead on, how much drops @ 500 yards?
Did you readjust the sight after barrel heat up?
I was in my max setting and had 3.2 mils dialed on my turret. Was hold about 0.5mils right for wind. That is roughly 57.6” of drop and 9” for wind. At least that’s what she is saying.
I'm new to rifles. What builds are you both using? They're beautiful
This would be interesting with a Marine non-sniper as their rifle qual includes shooting from the 500. Used to do it with iron sights, now they use an ACOG.
Excellent video looked like alot of fun. Keep shootin
Could you show what kind of scope you two were using thank you
The Joy of Shooting.
The tree needs a little detent or something on either side to "catch" the paddle when it flips. Something where the force of a round will flip it but a bounce back will not. And yeah, I'd love to see this at a longer distance. 500 yards is way too easy for your guys!
Factory ammo or tuned ammo in a factory box? I save my boxes for my reloads
Depending on the THICKNESS of the target plates, (probably a minimum of 3/8” AR500 steel), you can prevent the targets from flopping around by installing the tree post with a significant (approximately 15•) angle. This way, the projectile energy will flip the target plate around to the other side, and it should stay there.
*THATS YUR PROBLEM *
Jason has those Bushnell ranging bins that are actually very nice for under $1k. This is gonna be fun!
Bushnell makes a ton of great stuff these days
No doubt, I really like my Legend M 8x42 bins.
They are nice. I have had them for about 12 years.
PUSH IT TO 1000 YARDS..
USE TORSO SIZE TARGETS .
USE YOUR MATCH RIFLE TO HIS RED RIDER AND YOU MAY WIN...
JUST KIDDING.
GREAT VIDEO
GOD BLESS
THANK YOU YOUNGMAN FOR YOUR SERVICE
Obviously Jason wasn't thinking job security. LOL Have to let the boss win next time for sure.
Super fun. That sounds like a great new target product to make.
It’s hard not to root for the guy that served our country in a special forces military unit, but Erik is such a nice guy and good sport that it makes it a lot harder to pick a side. Fortunately that was not too serious, so no pride was really harmed in this video.
This is a great fun shoot. Enjoyed it on the scale of one to ten___a twelve. The tree was flipping the targets multiple times from single shots. You need to set up a different type of contest, where it is the first to hit his targets, wins.
This was fun to watch! Erick made all the excuses in the book, and jason won 10 times over. That tree was not made for the 308! Lol