@@sunrisetacticalgear2676 A long barrel person gathers and feeds his own ammunition its the way it is and includes if you noticed he rejected one round and pushed it aside didn't have the weight or feel long barrel is very personal .
When I first clicked on this, I was thinking to myself: "How can the shooter even see the target through his scope, given the elevation/altitude-angle of his rifle?" Then I finally looked more carefully, and (with some embarrassment) realized there was another optics device mounted in front of the scope. Ahh, that must be some type of mirror system to add extreme MOA correction to a fixed barrel and scope/sighting system. I never saw this before. Did some quick searching, and it is a TACOM HQ Charlie Tarac. Very cool.
I used to shoot .22 benchrest and it was amazing how much even a light wind would blow the bullet around. So honestly, each shot at these distances is a bang and a prayer. In 4 miles distance, the wind direction and velocity could change 20 times.
I agree. I'm not taking away from the great rifles and great expertise of these shooters that without them could not be done at these ranges, but there is still that bit of the element involved in luck.
I agree more like a shot in the dark. I'm not even sure what the point of this kind of shooting is, basically lobbing bullets 4 miles away and hope you hit a target that might as well be invisible. Far enough away that the rotation of the earth will be a factor.
Let's not slight anyone here. Four miles out and pretty consistently landing rounds inside of 10yds (ballpark, maybe closer - much closer). That's a *bunch* of rounds landing with 0.14% accuracy. There's very little "luck" at work here.
@@jamesadams893 Coriolis is a factor out past 1,000 yds so 7 times that distance is just nuts. That being said ballistics is a science they are pushing the edge of that science out further, gathering data and expanding knowledge. This is like the experiments done to gather data on artillery pieces.
This is actually kind of incredible. The amount of tenacity, physics, ballistic coefficients, meteorology, and just straight up luck leading to the final shot is absolutely incredible. Good job to the whole team involved for putting this together
Looking at how the target is laid back ... looks like a 45 to 55 degree angle ... pretty much sums this up. It's not so much "shooting" as "lobbing" the round on target. Good stuff.
😂😂 did we watch the same video?!? Dude was having to be told multiple times to do simple tasks. Spotter had to ask many times if he was okay? Clearly James just paid a lot of money to be behind that gun!
@@waterishdrake8693 Who is doing the shooting? The spotter or James? The spotter "just" reads and interprets information, and based on his knowledge and experience and informs the shooter. I am reminded of Top Gun : Maverick "I will fire when I am goddamn good and ready! You got that?!"
I'm sure it is impressive, but probably one of those things you have to be "in the know" to find impressive. For a more casual observer this looks like a whole team of people just taking potshots and trial and error walking it in. And that's after they started the camera.
The third to last shot was so close to the camera you could see the fleeting image of the bullet and hear the wind from it and then the impact, it was amazing.
Send it james. James send it. James are you okay? James sends it, GOD DAMMIT JAMES SEND IT, SEND IT JAMES! JAMES MF SEND IIITTTT!!😂😂 that's what it felt like 😂😂. Good shooting
@@waterishdrake8693Well the individual that keeps saying send it James send it james needs to shut the hell up! Because he is an impatient SOB and he needs to be kicked off of that range And let the guy that's behind the rifle make his concentrated shot because making long range shots is not like a machine gunner!
Very similar equipment used here, that the JTF2 team used to successfully eliminate a threat at 2miles. These guys showed just how accurate and repeatable the equipment is at a distance twice as far. Well done.
Damn I was just thinking about that, there was a podcast with a JTF2 Canadian SF guy who got the record with that new age prism cube in front of the scope. Just amazing...
Whoa, when , where and who is getting any hits much less repeatable ones at 4 miles???? A bullet traveling that distance would be affected at times anyway with wind at every direction and speed. I watched Mark ( Mark and Sam afterwork) firing 2 miles with 338 LM at a target 2 ' × 2' . He fired as I remember 12 rounds all were right on elevation but the wind kept shifting and gusting so the couple of impacts he was able to make were for the most part luck. He'd hit left then rt all within a couple feet of steel. That wasn't luck but timing the various wind directions and gusts was impossible without some. I counted 7 seconds from firing to impact at 2 m.
Fun Fact: At 7040 yards, every click on a scope is 18". A 1 MOA (1" at 100 yards) group would be a group 6 feet in diameter. With 27 seconds in the air for crosswinds and air currents to mess with the bullet, a 1 MOA group would be pretty impressive.
awesome shooting! i use to shoot competition in the Marine Corps and 600yds with iron sight was my limit with M14. never shot with a scope when i was in the Marine Corps, scopes was only for STA platoon. Sgt 84-91
That is quite the shot. Tens of thousands in equip and still took fifty (or more) shots. Proof at how much the slightest things impact the round. Spin drift, Coriolis effect, wind, temp change, humidity...
When I was younger me and my brother would sit around drinking Mountain Dew and shoot soda cans with our .22’s at 4 miles all the time, with iron sights.
I'm not a hater. I am curious. I read the comments and got most of the answers that I was looking for. One question though, how many rounds? As far as I'm concerned getting impacts in view of the camera by the target is an accomplishment.
I think most people commenting don't understand what goes into hitting anywhere near a target at this range, let alone how perfect you have to be to even get close repeatedly. The shooter and the equipment have to be absolutely repeatable. Keep pushing the limits guys. Pretty cool.
I was on an Army post team back in the early 70s. We had to use M14s, although these had been trued up by the armory, and we shot match-grade ammo. Iron sights put us at a disadvantage to the civilians with scopes. For me 600 yds was the furthest I was comfortable, and the one time we shot at 1000 even hitting a 5 ft2 target seemed like luck.
I’ve never shot m14’s but they say my AK will shoot accurately at 600 with open sights…. I can attest that you’d be a bad dude if you were hitting center mass with an Ak open sight at 600 yards consistently
I hit and killed a jackrabbit at 375 yards with an ar15 and iron sights a few years back. I would agree with a certain amount of luck but if you know where the rifle is shooting then I'd say it's as much skill as luck!
@@joellaningham9177 12 clicks, why you lying 🤥 ? What adjustment range scope you using per click and no one shoots for headshots at a grand. Centre mass targets.
Thus isn't talent as it is pure luck. Yeah you have to skilled to understand shooting at distsnce. But 1000k yards is absolute distance with .308. That still requires a light or heavy hot loaded round for this caliber.
Caliber? Barrel length? Rifle rig weight? Distance at which the Lab Radar loses track? Wonder what the bullet max elevation is in flight... Fantastic fun watching this.
Looks to be a 416 Barrett and if I had to guess probably around 900 moa of elevation. This is a clinic on shot calls and precision shooting. The gpg team are class act guys
The first shooter stated something profound that even effects 1k let along 7.07k distance. Light refraction. It has a effect on visual poa you see versus what it actually is mechanically. Light at varying angles distorts where the target is visually seen. At these ranges it can ve measured in multip,e feet even yards. I5s something you almost never see talked about on forums or by top shooters publicly. It's kept quiet.
Thats incredible 😮 I cant believe all the negativity in the comments 😢 Im trying for something ridiculous myself. Daisy Powerline 880 to 200 yards is the goal! Going to need an adjustable scope base as I've run out of reticle and adjustment in the touretts at 120 yards. However I am getting a six inch group at 120 so im pretty sure i can get there if i can see the target! Its hard to see splash with such a small projectile which makes it even more difficult! Anyways congratulations on 4 miles!
Did you do the tape mod on the barrel? And have you filled the notch on the piston? There is a company that makes 15 grain pellets in .177 cal. Twice the projectile weight should help and over pump the rifle like 15-18 times if you fill the piston. It will get you around an extra 40-50fps for the same amount of pumps
@patrickpendergast898 I didn't know about any of the mods you are referring to, however I always pump the 880's 20× Not sure what extra I get but I know it's there! The heaviest pellet I've been shooting is 10.6, so far my favorite! Crossman Copper Magnum. They seem to be pretty good!
@@XM913CG WOW! Who would have ever thought that Air-Rifles would become what they have! These new PCP guns are insane, especially when you start getting into the regulated ones! I wonder what Louis and Clark would think about all this?
@tailgatetinkerer it's fun, not practical, but fun! I need to get back on that endeavor! Even with a 16× scope I'm out of turret and reticle elevation at 120 yards.
I threw a rock that far one time. They didn't count as a hit because it bounced off the ground before it hit the target. But it rang the target and that was close enough for me. It was a river sandstone, if anyone was curious. The smooth overall shape combined with the rough surface texture gave it a better BC than a normal rock shaped rock.
There's a man here ,he took a 45-110 Springfield at 1.3 miles open sights hit dead on in 3 shots. It's amazing what quality weapons can do. I just got my 6 arc, and I can't wait. At 1,820, i can bulleye a quarter with my .224. I love long-range shooting. Hand loads and quality equipment can do a lot.
That is simply amazing, the the precision it takes to lineup each shot. With the spotters i'd hate to be on the other end of that thing. With all these guys making sure you hit your target, you're pretty much screwed.
Seriously though, what an insanely long shot. I won't go past a K. The skill needed at that distance involves complicated maths. You boys are the stuff
I have been flying my hang glider from Jean Ridge for 45yrs now. I sure hope you send someone up to the top to make sure no one is setting up to fly the ridge evening glass off!!!
I can do that with my red rider and open sites shooting up hill both ways in the middle of winter.... No but for real awesome shooting! My man is working that primary extraction. Good stuff!
With shooting and accuracy there is a point of diminishing returns . If you can’t be consistent with at least hitting a given target , what have you accomplished , other than how far your projectile will travel . A blind hog finds an acorn every once in a while .
I'd recommend seeking (or installing) an Oehler ballistic instrumentation (acoustic sky screens) system on your range. And possibly a Weibel tracking radar. While expensive, between those systems you can much more accurately track and score each shot, and not be as dependent on visual spotting.
bonjour magnifique vidéo superbe tir a toute l'équipe de préparation et au tireur un tir a plus de 6000 mètres c'est magnifique bravo a vous et merci pour se partage vidéo habitant de végas cordialement
But think about it. I figure there's two options : - yeah, it's all just luck. Okay, could my Mom make the shot? No. So there's more than just luck. - if you can make the shot, then you can make the shot.
@@petermgruhn There is certainly a lot of skill and practice involved. But again, at the point of being close and all around the target. It's a matter of shooter, wind and just everything clicking together. He could have hit it on the 4th shot or the 40th.
I don't know how Jane's kept calm with him behind. I mean also what's he on, only difference is where the sun is 😂 I guess he don't know about heat transfer then especially at range, angle of heat coming in fro the sun and heat rising changes the trajectory especially at 7070 😂
Are You OK James. Send it. I said send it, James. Send 2 or 3 James. You Ok James. Send it, send it James. Send a few more James. To James: send him effing somewhere.
As much as I like distance shooting, this shot at this range is impractical in every situation. I know that there are confirmed kills from a distance, but 30 sec till round impact is a shot in gods hands.
Some people shoot for sport, NOT only to kill their boss's enemy's employees. Having fun pushing limits IS very practical for fun-loving non-haters. ;-)
That spotter, "You alright, James? was like he had money on the line. James was just trying to be safe and not waste $10.00 per shot ammo. Made good on some indirect fire, artillery. Never seen a 4-mile shot before. Some serious periscope apparatus there. You gotta have perfect no-wind conditions, otherwise it's less science and more hope+wish+prayer.
Major point. The correct term for what’s happening here between morning and evening is indeed ‘refraction’. But it isn’t refraction of light having an effect on the scope’s view. The term ‘refraction’ is used by snipers to represent the change in density of the air during the day. The effect of this on the round is the same as the effect of air density on light, but not in terms of the quantity of the effect. The effect on the light and the scope, even at these ranges is trivial. However, the effect of ‘refraction’ on the round over 4 miles is profound between morning and evening as this video clearly demonstrates. I haven’t got to the end yet, but I confidently predict the round was being ‘refracted’ down (that is the direction of this effect, morning to evening all other things being equal) so much they couldn’t see it striking the ground using their sighting paraphernalia (scopes, people and cameras). What amazes me is that this group of people didn’t know this. I learned it 55 years ago as a kid shooting for my school… and I’m definitely no sniper, in fact I’ve not shot a gun since then! EDIT: Turns out I was correct. Further, they were saying that the conditions were perfect. They were not, a breeze has started and changed direction by 170 (look at the flag) which accounts for the first round caught in camera being down and to the right (once they has lifted the barrel without knowing why it would work) to compensate for the ‘refraction’. Further, they changed the clicks without noticing the wind then changed back 170 degrees so the next shots went left. Then the wind dropped to zero (the flag flopped) and that was their first ‘hit’ (PS: and whilst this will seem like I’m a know it all, when it comes to this I really am not…. draw your own conclusions about the depth of knowledge this implies for this group) 😊
Great work and art, I beg to differ with this discipline of rifle shooting due to the fact that rifle is a direct shooting weapon and it’s beauty lies there. This form of extreme long range shooting changes the very purpose of rifle. Moreover, in which practical scenario this capability would be required?
You're assuming that this is practice for another application. They're doing it for the same reason Captain Kirk was free climbing El Capitan. "Because it's there." The purpose is the attempt itself.
I have a double feeling about these shots, You can shoot all day, all week, and have 1 hit. It's only impressive if the shot is somewhat "effective". Like within a number of shots / any repeatability. Anyone get more info on that? I would love to see the luck factor reduced. Not taking anything away from these guys and the shooting though! I'm already happy with a 308 at 1000 yards 😂.
.308@ 1000 yards with repeatability is not small feat. Know your dope. ELR is interesting, but with a team and lobbing them in all afternoon for one impact... I don't know if it's that interesting. @brucessig3350 said it - "3 in a row" - now that's something to high-five about.
Yea. It's certainly an amazing achievement hitting anything at 4 miles, but I'd not say I've a gun good for X range unless I'm hitting 9/10. Does make me wonder what that range is for that gun. Do they need to pull back one mile or halfway? Those shots where landing around the target so its not as if it was random chance entirely it's just a bigger cone of chance than the sheet of steel.
I thought I was a bad ass when I hit my target at a mile two years ago at the same range, but man that was awesome!!!! What caliber is that rifle chambered??
Those who are critical of these guys are the same type of guys who spends thousands of dollars and countless hours hitting a little white ball into little round holes in a big green field with stupid looking sticks 😅
Was this a technical exercise or not? Because they weren’t being THAT technical. Just lobbing rounds down range and then celebrating a “hit” is what machine guns and artillery are for, not PRECISION shooting.
Thank you for that riveting video explaining what kind of ammo? What kind of optics? What kind of weapon platform was used and explaining all the difficulties that they have faced while doing it? That was that was just the most informative video I've ever watched about a subject fascinated with!
The compensation for drop is pretty crazy, let alone windage which would make it an impossible shot over 15 knots....the earth rotated one and twenty fourth seconds by the time the shot succumbed to gravity.....
Earth didn’t rotate any. If the earth spinning can affect bullets “Coriolis effect” then why doesn’t it affect helicopters? Or planes? If it were true then a helicopter could hover and the earth spin beneath them. Think about it. That’s a fairy tale. Sorry. I know you love your fairy tales.
@@joshuaclark3414 they are affected. The effect is negligible. Maybe take 2 seconds to use google before you spout off at others. Better yet, how about you go and show proof or prove that that the coriolis effect doesnt affect planes or bullets since you're the one trying to convince people that you think you know better.
That is an awesome shot!! I am up to 2.1 miles and going for 3 miles this October. I am getting close to my barrel getting in my view and noticed you were using the Charlie Delta along with your Charlie tarac. How does that effect your windage? I do love the Charlie.
Hey guys, great doing, going to shoot here in Namibia up to Ko2M as well. Be curious about your connection between the camera near target and tablet. Be tired to drive permanetly to check out the hits... Tanks, Thomas
I’m not bashing anyone but I’m with you. I don’t know if they hit it after 50 shots or 500 shots. I mean what’s the point. To get a group I thought you had to hit the target 2 or more times. 3-5 shot groups seams to be the standard. To hit that size of a target 1 time with that many shots and then post a video like you accomplished something. I’m not hating on them I just don’t understand what they are bragging about.
GPG is team work. Smart Mouth is champion of 2 Miles competition. King of two Miles. I have video of 3.5 Miles range where he hit target. Paul Phillips one of best shooters in USA.
That's good work from the shooter. The spotter however seemed very impatient with the gunner. I would've barked back if I had someone behind me rushing my shot. I understand at that distance wind does crazy things but EVERYTHING must be perfect for a shot like that. I'd rather gamble against the wind while allowing my shooter to do his job. Rushing the guy pulling the trigger can be just as devastating on bullet travel as the wind can be. 4 mile shot is not the time to be rushing anything.
Was going to say this. The spotter seemed very irritating constantly berating him. I'm sure they put the best shooter down behind the gun, for the guy spotting to rush him seems foolish.
This is amazing. No action movie background music, just the desert crackling noise and lots of patience and concentration, like any true sniper.
kinda.. the winner is still 2.3 miles on record.... so this guy probably missed every shot..... and it would have been recorded :-\
Not a sniper , but a marksman
Отвратительная стрельба ‼️У стрелка косой глаз 😂
@@HarmonRAB-hp4nk Рекорд 4,1 км , Labaev, Orsis
I've never seen a more impatient spotter lol, but that was awesome!
Not really. The spotter needs the shots on demand instead of fiddling around. It's about window of opportunity and getting it on the camera.
@@aaronwilcox6417Someone should have been sitting next to the shooter, feeding him ammo so he could relax behind the rifle.
@@sunrisetacticalgear2676 A long barrel person gathers and feeds his own ammunition its the way it is and includes if you noticed he rejected one round and pushed it aside didn't have the weight or feel long barrel is very personal .
Ya agreed. Good lord the spotter was obnoxious
@@TheSilmarillian "its the way it is"..."long barrel is very personal"...smh...
You know I was bowling. First time ever, and I got 2 strikes in a row after 5 hours of throwing balls down the same lane.
When I first clicked on this, I was thinking to myself: "How can the shooter even see the target through his scope, given the elevation/altitude-angle of his rifle?" Then I finally looked more carefully, and (with some embarrassment) realized there was another optics device mounted in front of the scope. Ahh, that must be some type of mirror system to add extreme MOA correction to a fixed barrel and scope/sighting system. I never saw this before. Did some quick searching, and it is a TACOM HQ Charlie Tarac. Very cool.
I downloaded their operators manual... impressive sight.
In the end, I think they got lucky.
He is using a prism
It's a tesaract
Call Dr. time guy from marvel if it’s the tesaract …. Dr strange
I used to shoot .22 benchrest and it was amazing how much even a light wind would blow the bullet around. So honestly, each shot at these distances is a bang and a prayer. In 4 miles distance, the wind direction and velocity could change 20 times.
I agree. I'm not taking away from the great rifles and great expertise of these shooters that without them could not be done at these ranges, but there is still that bit of the element involved in luck.
that would show your knowledge of when to shoot. luck is just you putting yourself in the best possible position to react to it.
I agree more like a shot in the dark. I'm not even sure what the point of this kind of shooting is, basically lobbing bullets 4 miles away and hope you hit a target that might as well be invisible. Far enough away that the rotation of the earth will be a factor.
Let's not slight anyone here. Four miles out and pretty consistently landing rounds inside of 10yds (ballpark, maybe closer - much closer). That's a *bunch* of rounds landing with 0.14% accuracy. There's very little "luck" at work here.
@@jamesadams893 Coriolis is a factor out past 1,000 yds so 7 times that distance is just nuts. That being said ballistics is a science they are pushing the edge of that science out further, gathering data and expanding knowledge. This is like the experiments done to gather data on artillery pieces.
SPOTTER: "James, you alright"?
JAMES: "Nope, I'm gonna punch you in the face"
😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
James is a patient man
My thoughts exactly
Lol yeah he is... Must be highly trained... Military man..... Fukin killer
What are you waiting for James?!? SEND IT!!! 😅
Yeah, I would have taken the rifle and stuck it up somewhere.
Are you ok James.. just pull the damn trigger!!!
This is actually kind of incredible. The amount of tenacity, physics, ballistic coefficients, meteorology, and just straight up luck leading to the final shot is absolutely incredible. Good job to the whole team involved for putting this together
It isn't as impressive as you make it out to be. This is a chip shot for artillery. All the math to generate a firing solution is known and automated.
Dont forget curvature of the earth over that sort of distance as well as rotation in orbit.
@@brunomckay1875absolutely, that rotation would have the bullet flying back towards ya wouldn’t it?
@@brunomckay1875 earth isn't a globe man
Looking at how the target is laid back ... looks like a 45 to 55 degree angle ... pretty much sums this up. It's not so much "shooting" as "lobbing" the round on target. Good stuff.
Dude, James is loaded and ready ..... he is just waiting for the "send it".
Cool stuff
😂😂 did we watch the same video?!? Dude was having to be told multiple times to do simple tasks. Spotter had to ask many times if he was okay? Clearly James just paid a lot of money to be behind that gun!
@@waterishdrake8693 Who is doing the shooting? The spotter or James? The spotter "just" reads and interprets information, and based on his knowledge and experience and informs the shooter. I am reminded of Top Gun : Maverick "I will fire when I am goddamn good and ready! You got that?!"
@truegret7778 You watched the wrong video lol. He spotter was basically pressuring James to send it.
Just the feat in and of itself is mind blowing. If you've never done precesion long range shooting, you truly can't appreciate that. Wow
Отвратительная стрельба ‼️ Видел не мало стрелков на супер дальние дистанции.Это версия самая худшая ‼️
This isn't precision shooting.
@@crysisgaz 6.46km?
I'm sure it is impressive, but probably one of those things you have to be "in the know" to find impressive. For a more casual observer this looks like a whole team of people just taking potshots and trial and error walking it in. And that's after they started the camera.
This is less like sniping and more like artillery ......Very cool though
Quite a revelation isn't it?...
The third to last shot was so close to the camera you could see the fleeting image of the bullet and hear the wind from it and then the impact, it was amazing.
Send it james. James send it. James are you okay? James sends it, GOD DAMMIT JAMES SEND IT, SEND IT JAMES! JAMES MF SEND IIITTTT!!😂😂 that's what it felt like 😂😂. Good shooting
James was the $$ behind this! When you have more money than brains 😂
@@waterishdrake8693Well the individual that keeps saying send it James send it james needs to shut the hell up! Because he is an impatient SOB and he needs to be kicked off of that range And let the guy that's behind the rifle make his concentrated shot because making long range shots is not like a machine gunner!
Very similar equipment used here, that the JTF2 team used to successfully eliminate a threat at 2miles. These guys showed just how accurate and repeatable the equipment is at a distance twice as far. Well done.
They didn’t Use A tarac “taco” prism.
Damn I was just thinking about that, there was a podcast with a JTF2 Canadian SF guy who got the record with that new age prism cube in front of the scope. Just amazing...
Repeatable? Were we watching the same video?
@rockwellrhodes7703 you have no idea what your talking about
Whoa, when , where and who is getting any hits much less repeatable ones at 4 miles????
A bullet traveling that distance would be affected at times anyway with wind at every direction and speed. I watched Mark ( Mark and Sam afterwork) firing 2 miles with 338 LM at a target 2 ' × 2' . He fired as I remember 12 rounds all were right on elevation but the wind kept shifting and gusting so the couple of impacts he was able to make were for the most part luck. He'd hit left then rt all within a couple feet of steel. That wasn't luck but timing the various wind directions and gusts was impossible without some. I counted 7 seconds from firing to impact at 2 m.
Fun Fact: At 7040 yards, every click on a scope is 18". A 1 MOA (1" at 100 yards) group would be a group 6 feet in diameter. With 27 seconds in the air for crosswinds and air currents to mess with the bullet, a 1 MOA group would be pretty impressive.
1 click should be 87.5" at 7000 yards? 1/8th MOA per click is .125" at 100 yards. (7000/100)*(.125) = 87.5" A 1 MOA group at 7000 yards is 700" ?
@@sparrow808 Better fix your calculator. I was using 1/4 click. Your decimal point is off.
awesome shooting! i use to shoot competition in the Marine Corps and 600yds with iron sight was my limit with M14. never shot with a scope when i was in the Marine Corps, scopes was only for STA platoon. Sgt 84-91
Semper Fi.
Yes, yes, yes….incredible guys. This is one of most incredible shoot I’d never seen. Perfect.
Cool. However in my view this calls for a 155mm piece.
That is quite the shot. Tens of thousands in equip and still took fifty (or more) shots. Proof at how much the slightest things impact the round. Spin drift, Coriolis effect, wind, temp change, humidity...
So true, minute changes will effect bullet placement quite drastically.
Awesome! Looks like you guys had lots of fun and thats all that matters.
Most excellent...👍🇺🇸
When I was younger me and my brother would sit around drinking Mountain Dew and shoot soda cans with our .22’s at 4 miles all the time, with iron sights.
No you didn’t
Did you see the garand thumb video the guy flew out to try. Of course this guy is joking 😂
😅
What was in that Mountain Dew?
Ha! That's a good one!
Mark and Sam look these shooters up. They are next level.
Yeah, I'd rather have Sam spotting for me, than this guy. Great videos! They give great advice as well!
Moral of the story is your very safe at 4 miles away from shooter. A whole team of shooters can't work together to make a shot that far.
You walking group of elephants are also considered safe
You're*
Or, and hear me out: you're safe to drop your pants and moon your ops at 4mi unless they have artillery.
Yeah the mile is a trial 😅
Moral of the story: to shoot far, shoot into the air.
I'm not a hater. I am curious. I read the comments and got most of the answers that I was looking for. One question though, how many rounds? As far as I'm concerned getting impacts in view of the camera by the target is an accomplishment.
I think most people commenting don't understand what goes into hitting anywhere near a target at this range, let alone how perfect you have to be to even get close repeatedly. The shooter and the equipment have to be absolutely repeatable.
Keep pushing the limits guys. Pretty cool.
YES MOST PEOPLE DO UNDERSTAND... JUST NOT YOU ARROGANT IDITOS
Yes! I agree, they have that new tech prism cube that goes in front of the scope that makes this possible, without that, almost impossible.
Math and $$
And yelling at James helped?
But it took dozens of attempts, at that point is just a really high precision game of spray and pray....
Jealous of the awesome dust signatures, awesome work guys, you are legends!!!
Thanks for a cool video, and congrats at hitting at 7070. Def looks like old school fun with some buddies. Keep doing what you love.
I was on an Army post team back in the early 70s. We had to use M14s, although these had been trued up by the armory, and we shot match-grade ammo. Iron sights put us at a disadvantage to the civilians with scopes. For me 600 yds was the furthest I was comfortable, and the one time we shot at 1000 even hitting a 5 ft2 target seemed like luck.
1000 yd M14 12 clicks elevation prone no wind 9 out of ten through the head.
I guess if we ever go back to the moon , they will send a target and king of the moon shot will be born. What's a minute of angle at 389, 000 miles?
I’ve never shot m14’s but they say my AK will shoot accurately at 600 with open sights…. I can attest that you’d be a bad dude if you were hitting center mass with an Ak open sight at 600 yards consistently
I hit and killed a jackrabbit at 375 yards with an ar15 and iron sights a few years back. I would agree with a certain amount of luck but if you know where the rifle is shooting then I'd say it's as much skill as luck!
@@joellaningham9177 12 clicks, why you lying 🤥 ? What adjustment range scope you using per click and no one shoots for headshots at a grand.
Centre mass targets.
Watching this level of talent is a treat. I was an ordinary 400 yard guy- this so cool.
400 yard guy is not ordinary
Thus isn't talent as it is pure luck. Yeah you have to skilled to understand shooting at distsnce. But 1000k yards is absolute distance with .308. That still requires a light or heavy hot loaded round for this caliber.
What talent is that?
Caliber? Barrel length? Rifle rig weight? Distance at which the Lab Radar loses track?
Wonder what the bullet max elevation is in flight...
Fantastic fun watching this.
Looks to be a 416 Barrett and if I had to guess probably around 900 moa of elevation. This is a clinic on shot calls and precision shooting. The gpg team are class act guys
Wouldn't you need to shoot on the same bearing direction each time to take into account corriolis with such a long bullet travel time
The first shooter stated something profound that even effects 1k let along 7.07k distance. Light refraction. It has a effect on visual poa you see versus what it actually is mechanically. Light at varying angles distorts where the target is visually seen. At these ranges it can ve measured in multip,e feet even yards. I5s something you almost never see talked about on forums or by top shooters publicly. It's kept quiet.
James had the spotter worried 😂 “are you ok James?”
Thats incredible 😮 I cant believe all the negativity in the comments 😢 Im trying for something ridiculous myself. Daisy Powerline 880 to 200 yards is the goal! Going to need an adjustable scope base as I've run out of reticle and adjustment in the touretts at 120 yards. However I am getting a six inch group at 120 so im pretty sure i can get there if i can see the target! Its hard to see splash with such a small projectile which makes it even more difficult! Anyways congratulations on 4 miles!
Did you do the tape mod on the barrel? And have you filled the notch on the piston? There is a company that makes 15 grain pellets in .177 cal. Twice the projectile weight should help and over pump the rifle like 15-18 times if you fill the piston. It will get you around an extra 40-50fps for the same amount of pumps
@patrickpendergast898 I didn't know about any of the mods you are referring to, however I always pump the 880's 20× Not sure what extra I get but I know it's there! The heaviest pellet I've been shooting is 10.6, so far my favorite! Crossman Copper Magnum. They seem to be pretty good!
A recent record was set in 30cal airgun at 2000yrds airforce texan.
@@XM913CG WOW! Who would have ever thought that Air-Rifles would become what they have! These new PCP guns are insane, especially when you start getting into the regulated ones! I wonder what Louis and Clark would think about all this?
@tailgatetinkerer it's fun, not practical, but fun! I need to get back on that endeavor! Even with a 16× scope I'm out of turret and reticle elevation at 120 yards.
I threw a rock that far one time. They didn't count as a hit because it bounced off the ground before it hit the target. But it rang the target and that was close enough for me. It was a river sandstone, if anyone was curious. The smooth overall shape combined with the rough surface texture gave it a better BC than a normal rock shaped rock.
I can shoot my flip (homemade slingshot) around the house from the backdoor. I could never throw a rock that well let alone 4 miles.
One rotator cuff surgery later
The “prework” is what amazes me. I’ll bet there were lots of meetings and late nights/early mornings. Very impressive! Thank you
Just the effort to locate a spot to do this is nuts. I have a VERY hard time finding anywhere to shoot 2000 yards that I feel is safe.
Congratulations on your achievement
There's a man here ,he took a 45-110 Springfield at 1.3 miles open sights hit dead on in 3 shots. It's amazing what quality weapons can do. I just got my 6 arc, and I can't wait. At 1,820, i can bulleye a quarter with my .224. I love long-range shooting. Hand loads and quality equipment can do a lot.
Quigley??
Nope.
I shoot for a grand a shot . We can start 1000 yards
@@kevenbeene4585
You can keep talking and prove nothing or… 🤔 oh I know, it’s TH-cam, you could upload a video??????
I've shot 1 moa target multiple times at 1 mile with a 6.5 creedmoor and a $400 scope. Even cold bore. 4 miles just wasting ammo. Fun tho.
That is simply amazing, the the precision it takes to lineup each shot. With the spotters i'd hate to be on the other end of that thing. With all these guys making sure you hit your target, you're pretty much screwed.
That was awesome guys you sir should be in the books for that shot I'm truly amazed 👏 hats off
Seriously though, what an insanely long shot. I won't go past a K. The skill needed at that distance involves complicated maths. You boys are the stuff
About 1500 is where my desire exceeds my talent.
The guys and girls who go longer have my eternal respect.
@@petert3355 I concur
Actually, when you go this far, it starts to be less skill and more equipment and patience.
nice job! great grouping given the circumstances!
it is corrected artillery. But good show anyhow!
I broke my own record in 2024, 75 feet with my 2023 slingshot 😏
I have been flying my hang glider from Jean Ridge for 45yrs now. I sure hope you send someone up to the top to make sure no one is setting up to fly the ridge evening glass off!!!
Nice work James! That was a lot of pressure and frustration
I used to shoot my Norinco AK at 2 miles, but I got tired of walking that far to replace the paper plates.
Why would you change them? Shoot as long as possible before the rain, sun and wind will ruin them.
A Soviet AK usually fires at 3 miles...
@@alexandernachenkin263
I can do that with my red rider and open sites shooting up hill both ways in the middle of winter....
No but for real awesome shooting! My man is working that primary extraction. Good stuff!
Wait. You forgot the snow in your eyes.
@@marcoosvald8429 shit your right.
Easy shot with a red Ryder. As a kid we used to shoot cans from 5 miles all the time
What caliber is it?? What rifle?? Nice shot brother
With shooting and accuracy there is a point of diminishing returns . If you can’t be consistent with at least hitting a given target , what have you accomplished , other than how far your projectile will travel .
A blind hog finds an acorn every once in a while .
😂My point exactly but mist here think they're range gods 😮
Great content, you're awesome guys! Thx and greetings from Berlin /Germany ✌️
I'd recommend seeking (or installing) an Oehler ballistic instrumentation (acoustic sky screens) system on your range. And possibly a Weibel tracking radar.
While expensive, between those systems you can much more accurately track and score each shot, and not be as dependent on visual spotting.
That's by far nowhere near fancy shooting
It is when takn n2 account wind moves bullet around
That was truly amazing!! Would love to try that!!👍😉😄😄
Awesome team work fellows.❤
bonjour magnifique vidéo superbe tir a toute l'équipe de préparation et au tireur un tir a plus de 6000 mètres c'est magnifique bravo a vous et merci pour se partage vidéo habitant de végas cordialement
I feel asleep. Did they ever hit the target?
James has the patience of a saint. Spotter was acting like the shooter was dealing with semi auto and not an UELR rifle with over pressure rounds.
The navy call it a salvo throw enough lead at it and eventually you might hit it
I love how at that correction angle he just has to get the bolt open and the bolt is so smooth it takes care of ejecting the brass.
Bolts generally have spring loaded plunger ejectors. The case would be ejected even if the action was pointed down or ejection port towards.
It's hard for me to believe that a shot can be made MORE THAN ONCE at those distances.
It's just luck at this point of distance.
But think about it. I figure there's two options :
- yeah, it's all just luck. Okay, could my Mom make the shot? No. So there's more than just luck.
- if you can make the shot, then you can make the shot.
@@petermgruhn There is certainly a lot of skill and practice involved. But again, at the point of being close and all around the target. It's a matter of shooter, wind and just everything clicking together. He could have hit it on the 4th shot or the 40th.
I don't know how Jane's kept calm with him behind. I mean also what's he on, only difference is where the sun is 😂 I guess he don't know about heat transfer then especially at range, angle of heat coming in fro the sun and heat rising changes the trajectory especially at 7070 😂
I call this: golfing 😂 nice shooting and congrats 🎉
Are You OK James.
Send it.
I said send it, James.
Send 2 or 3 James.
You Ok James.
Send it, send it James.
Send a few more James.
To James: send him effing somewhere.
As much as I like distance shooting, this shot at this range is impractical in every situation. I know that there are confirmed kills from a distance, but 30 sec till round impact is a shot in gods hands.
I don't think they are trying to kill anything except world records.
Some people shoot for sport, NOT only to kill their boss's enemy's employees. Having fun pushing limits IS very practical for fun-loving non-haters. ;-)
That spotter, "You alright, James? was like he had money on the line. James was just trying to be safe and not waste $10.00 per shot ammo. Made good on some indirect fire, artillery. Never seen a 4-mile shot before. Some serious periscope apparatus there. You gotta have perfect no-wind conditions, otherwise it's less science and more hope+wish+prayer.
Really only 10$ per shot? With the size of that round I’d expect it to be more expensive.
Well this was like watching paint dry.
Major point. The correct term for what’s happening here between morning and evening is indeed ‘refraction’. But it isn’t refraction of light having an effect on the scope’s view. The term ‘refraction’ is used by snipers to represent the change in density of the air during the day. The effect of this on the round is the same as the effect of air density on light, but not in terms of the quantity of the effect. The effect on the light and the scope, even at these ranges is trivial. However, the effect of ‘refraction’ on the round over 4 miles is profound between morning and evening as this video clearly demonstrates. I haven’t got to the end yet, but I confidently predict the round was being ‘refracted’ down (that is the direction of this effect, morning to evening all other things being equal) so much they couldn’t see it striking the ground using their sighting paraphernalia (scopes, people and cameras). What amazes me is that this group of people didn’t know this. I learned it 55 years ago as a kid shooting for my school… and I’m definitely no sniper, in fact I’ve not shot a gun since then! EDIT: Turns out I was correct. Further, they were saying that the conditions were perfect. They were not, a breeze has started and changed direction by 170 (look at the flag) which accounts for the first round caught in camera being down and to the right (once they has lifted the barrel without knowing why it would work) to compensate for the ‘refraction’. Further, they changed the clicks without noticing the wind then changed back 170 degrees so the next shots went left. Then the wind dropped to zero (the flag flopped) and that was their first ‘hit’ (PS: and whilst this will seem like I’m a know it all, when it comes to this I really am not…. draw your own conclusions about the depth of knowledge this implies for this group) 😊
Great work and art, I beg to differ with this discipline of rifle shooting due to the fact that rifle is a direct shooting weapon and it’s beauty lies there. This form of extreme long range shooting changes the very purpose of rifle. Moreover, in which practical scenario this capability would be required?
or artillery. Perfect range for a 155 howitzer.
You're assuming that this is practice for another application. They're doing it for the same reason Captain Kirk was free climbing El Capitan. "Because it's there." The purpose is the attempt itself.
I have a double feeling about these shots, You can shoot all day, all week, and have 1 hit. It's only impressive if the shot is somewhat "effective". Like within a number of shots / any repeatability. Anyone get more info on that? I would love to see the luck factor reduced. Not taking anything away from these guys and the shooting though! I'm already happy with a 308 at 1000 yards 😂.
Their target was also rather large
I agree. I think being able to hit two out of five or maybe even three out of 10 would mean more. To me it would anyway.
I thought you had to hit it 3 times in a row for it to count? I don't know anything about it though
.308@ 1000 yards with repeatability is not small feat. Know your dope. ELR is interesting, but with a team and lobbing them in all afternoon for one impact... I don't know if it's that interesting. @brucessig3350 said it - "3 in a row" - now that's something to high-five about.
Yea. It's certainly an amazing achievement hitting anything at 4 miles, but I'd not say I've a gun good for X range unless I'm hitting 9/10. Does make me wonder what that range is for that gun. Do they need to pull back one mile or halfway? Those shots where landing around the target so its not as if it was random chance entirely it's just a bigger cone of chance than the sheet of steel.
Outstanding shipmates. Press on. USS Kitty Hawk CV-63. Jan 1980 to July 1983. Artillery for life.
I thought I was a bad ass when I hit my target at a mile two years ago at the same range, but man that was awesome!!!! What caliber is that rifle chambered??
i think it was 155mm howitzer with a scope
Those who are critical of these guys are the same type of guys who spends thousands of dollars and countless hours hitting a little white ball into little round holes in a big green field with stupid looking sticks 😅
Was this a technical exercise or not? Because they weren’t being THAT technical. Just lobbing rounds down range and then celebrating a “hit” is what machine guns and artillery are for, not PRECISION shooting.
If they were claiming accuracy over pure luck they'd have hit the target more than once 😅. Just wasted 18 minutes of my life..
why not put a camera on the sighting or spotters lens so people can see the trail vapor from the projectile and impact points?
Good point 👍
That is flipping outstanding!
Thank you for that riveting video explaining what kind of ammo? What kind of optics? What kind of weapon platform was used and explaining all the difficulties that they have faced while doing it? That was that was just the most informative video I've ever watched about a subject fascinated with!
At least they told you were to buy all the video gear......
Blind sow finds an acorn every once in a while.
Yes my friends. A normal 4 mile shoot. Very simple. Aim rifle at moon as it roughly rises over the target. Hold breath and gently squeeze the trigger.
The compensation for drop is pretty crazy, let alone windage which would make it an impossible shot over 15 knots....the earth rotated one and twenty fourth seconds by the time the shot succumbed to gravity.....
Earth didn’t rotate any. If the earth spinning can affect bullets “Coriolis effect” then why doesn’t it affect helicopters? Or planes? If it were true then a helicopter could hover and the earth spin beneath them. Think about it. That’s a fairy tale. Sorry. I know you love your fairy tales.
@@joshuaclark3414 they are affected. The effect is negligible. Maybe take 2 seconds to use google before you spout off at others. Better yet, how about you go and show proof or prove that that the coriolis effect doesnt affect planes or bullets since you're the one trying to convince people that you think you know better.
@@joshuaclark3414apparently you don’t know what “ground effects are! Fairytale guy😂
10-4 I was helicopter Vietnam era, he is so dumb his ears rub, he can take that flat earth bullshit somewhere else IMO. @@germandan5
That's awesome 👌 👏 would have bin something to be there in person that's a crazy good shot only a few people in the world could have made that
When does the gun turn into indirect fire from the angle
Send it!
James: you ready?
Send it!
James: now?
SEND IT!!
James you good!?
Outstanding!!!!!🤙
Can't really think of a better day to spend a day...
Just lobbing bullets in till you hit a target is so awesome
Do you even ELR?
That is an awesome shot!! I am up to 2.1 miles and going for 3 miles this October. I am getting close to my barrel getting in my view and noticed you were using the Charlie Delta along with your Charlie tarac. How does that effect your windage? I do love the Charlie.
sometimes too much of good things just become silly.
Agree 100%
Hey guys,
great doing, going to shoot here in Namibia up to Ko2M as well. Be curious about your connection between the camera near target and tablet. Be tired to drive permanetly to check out the hits...
Tanks,
Thomas
If it were repeatable yeah it would have been a feat but this is just fluke . 10/10 for the effort
I’m not bashing anyone but I’m with you. I don’t know if they hit it after 50 shots or 500 shots. I mean what’s the point. To get a group I thought you had to hit the target 2 or more times. 3-5 shot groups seams to be the standard. To hit that size of a target 1 time with that many shots and then post a video like you accomplished something. I’m not hating on them I just don’t understand what they are bragging about.
Did I miss what cartridge and bullet they are using?
If I were James, I would tell smart mouth to shoot it himself
GPG is team work. Smart Mouth is champion of 2 Miles competition. King of two Miles. I have video of 3.5 Miles range where he hit target. Paul Phillips one of best shooters in USA.
@@shootshow438, Paul Phillips is also King Richard.
Great job fellas I said here and watched that whole video
7070 yards = 7070 cartridges:)
Great shooting fellas... good team work... like that bullet... who's lathe made it?
What caliber was this and what gun was this?
416
Awesome dude that dude has alot of patience I would've told that dude shut up saying send it every sec
I hate to be a stickler but 4 miles is 7040 yards.
And now this shot almost 5 miles...
@@shootshow438what were you using for gun and scope
@@alrich7589 Charlie TARAC
Lost for words 4 miles woooooooooooooooo, humble sports competition target shooter her down under mainly pistol and I thought I was good .............
You wasted a lot of ammo. I'm pretty sure it was hope we hit the target 🎯
That's good work from the shooter. The spotter however seemed very impatient with the gunner. I would've barked back if I had someone behind me rushing my shot. I understand at that distance wind does crazy things but EVERYTHING must be perfect for a shot like that. I'd rather gamble against the wind while allowing my shooter to do his job. Rushing the guy pulling the trigger can be just as devastating on bullet travel as the wind can be. 4 mile shot is not the time to be rushing anything.
Was going to say this. The spotter seemed very irritating constantly berating him. I'm sure they put the best shooter down behind the gun, for the guy spotting to rush him seems foolish.
I'm sure you're having a real great time, but it looks a bit like spray and pray rather than precision????😮
It's spray and pray because of the dick in the black behind the spoting scope