When I was a kid and first watching MotorWeek, there wasn't much at all that could lay down a 0-60 in 5.9 or a quarter in 14.5 at 95, regardless of the badge. That said, I think that either of my grandfathers would've been skeptical of such a huge vehicle with a 215 cu in v6 laying down numbers like that. Today is the golden age of car performance.
You mean today is the golden age of ICE car performance. EV is proving to be a whole new game on a much higher level, and it's only in its mass production infancy.
….yes, no one could have believed back then…that a truck engine/chassis could offer such stunning performance. Such acceleration was the league of Porsches back in the 80s and 90s.
Kind of funny. Many years and many pounds ago, I owned a 1985 Mustang GT, one of the hottest American cars on the road (yes I said “one of”). Just for giggles, I looked up the performance of an’85 GT, depending on who you asked, the quarter mile was between 14.3 and 14.9. The 60 mph stopping distance was somewhere around 200 ft and the mileage was 16 city and 24 highway. This is the funny part, the performance of this behemoth matches or exceeds the mid 80s hottest cars while getting about the same mileage and able to carry 4 or more additional passengers and their luggage.
That’s pretty impressive for a turbo 6 cylinder pulling all that weight! Imagine that performance way back in the 80s! That would be in the super car territory! The styling and interior looks pretty good too!👌😎👍
Fords have had power adjustable pedals for over 20 years & I'm surprised that most automakers don't use them too. They're great for tall people and also help keep short people farther from the airbag & dash in a collision.
And the personnel memory feature sets the driver's seat, steering wheel, mirrors and pedals for two different drivers. At 6'2" tall, I press the "Setting #1 button" and everything is adjusted for me. My wife at 5'2" presses "Setting #2 button" and within less than 5 seconds, everything is set for her comfort.
@@axelmacias6245 As North American automakers developed new innovations, they were always introduced first on the top Cadillacs or Lincolns. Usually 2 or 3 years before any other models had the features.
I liked the engine covers that came with the V8 Navigators and the early V6’s, now when you pop the hood you only get to see lots of rubber, plastic and some metal but nothing nice to the eye, and you could understand that in the Bronco, but not in here, not when you are competing with the Escalade and Grand Wagoneer. I wonder if a more relaxed 4.0L twin turbo V8 would give better fuel economy than the stressed 3.5L V6, cause from my previous experience smaller engines pushed hard use more fuel than larger but lower revving ones.
Smaller hi rev engines burn out faster but unless you are loaded up with the whole family, pulling a trailer & sticking your foot in it at every stop light, I'm sure the a six cyl is adequate. Blame the government fuel economy standards. At Idle or light use which is mostly how they are used less cyl less fuel. I still think it should come standard with the biggest engine Ford made. Turbo schmurbo! Horsepower. If Fiat can build a Patriot with a V8 Hemi then Ford can stick the 7L under the bonnet
I'm still enjoying very much my 2014 Lincoln Navigator and I won't be upgrading to the newest model anytime soon. The video states the U.S. pricing, but here in Canada the 2022 Navigator starts at $112K and tops out at $138K.
@@Hybridgtr Even on a G80 M3 or G82 M4, black looks really good (and is only one of two of the recommended color suggestions along with dark blue, nothing else but the latter). No bright colors allowed!
With the depreciative quality of automobiles being built these days where surviving a major crash has a ZERO chance that you will live, riding one of these behemoths although it sucks gas, makes me feel so safe on the road.
Ford detuned a couple of models for emissions and fuel economy, but I guarantee you won't feel any difference. If anything it may feel quicker since they have been tweaking the shift points on the 10 speeds.
The Ford Expedition is the cousin of the Lincoln Navigator and both are built on the F-150 pick-up chassis. Now that the Ford F-150 Lightning electric has arrived, electric versions of the Expedition and Navigator may not be far behind.
It’s a Lincoln and as such they really need to step up the color pallete. Some 70s colors would be nice these disgusting boring colors shouldn’t be offered when your paying for a premium vehicle.
@@BuzzLOLOL just get a 1970s continental. Its just as bad on gas but hey Lincoln hasnt made an attractive car since the 80s and they refuse to cater to their strengths in saturated market. Just go for the old ones there so dope, minus not having an airbag.
If y’all truly tested on regular then that Navigator did really well with acceleration and economy. It can get by on regular but it much prefers premium.
I'm surprised they kept the weight at 6000 lbs after 20 years: most cars just get larger and heavier. I guess you can't add any more at that point LOL. My 2003 Navigator tipped the truck weight scale at just under 6000 lbs.
Those black wheels look so out of place on a chromed out white luxury SUV. And as much I’m rooting for Lincoln’s rebirth of American luxury, that’s exactly the reason they can’t compete with Cadillac or Land Rover. They need to get those details right first.
First off battery operated vehicles in the US will never work... charging stations cost money to use more than petro over a year time, US electric grid is no where capable of thr capacity needed to charge 5 million autos in America at 1 time... California is a good example
‘22 was a mid cycle refresh with a lot of additional tech content, new wheel designs, front and rear refresh, new interior materials and new Black Label themes. There is not a clean sheet redesign in ‘23.
0-60 sure isn't bad, and better than I thought a v-6 turbo could move that beast. But I am terribly concerned about the engines ability and longevity when towing anything. Regular gas engines by their design are not good fuel efficient haulers. But the torque found in a V-8 and the fewer RPM's needed driving when towing still seems superior than a v6. And both inferior to a diesel engine.
You got to use premium gas for the EcoBoost high output premium gas gives you all the horsepower and torque if you use regular it's not going to give you all the power 0 to 60 is between 5.3 and 5.5 seconds with premium
I'm not a Ford guy but although this Navigator looks great honestly Lincoln as a brand is not reliable. They bring back the Continental as FWD then kill it off in favor of the SUVs and crossovers SMDH
They bring back the square gauges found on the old Lincoln continentals from the 70s or some horizontal gauges. Everybody creams their pants over the shoddy tech packages instead of looking for style.
MotorWeek you got to use premium gas you're not going to get the full horsepower and torque that's why you're 0 to 60 was 5.9 seconds they already clocked it at 5.3 to 5.5 0 to 60 other magazines and reviews
Nice SUV but nowhere near as good as the Escalade, which outsells it by more than 4 to 1. And the Escalade has an engine cover and a hidden tailgate wiper.
First off, I love motor week!! Lincoln is wayyyy overpriced, the black rims are sickening and should be aluminum chrome alloys. Black rims started to fade out several years ago bc people finally realized just how ugly they really are. That motor should be a v8 like a 7.3 gas or the new 6.8 gas. The only way I would have any ev period would be if it was given to me and then I would get something requiring fossil fuel after immediately selling it. Anyway, just my opinion and every one else is entitled to theirs as well!!
It's definitely an improvement over what they used to be but frankly it doesn't hold a candle to an escalade or even a denali in my opinion it's still a Ford and it's still kind of garish
No ! .it cost way to much for what it is , just like all these new truck type vehicles !! They are a rip off. Can't drive that much money out of it over even 10 years !
What an ass! Tattoos don't mean you are stuck doing oil changes. Large companies such as Disney and Publix are now allowing them. Times have changed. I've seen CEO with tattoos. And if you knew anything you could tell those are not "prison" tats.
The fact you say something so judgmental as if it brought you some kind of feeling of superiority tells me maybe you're the one who should be going oil changes =)
Nasty black rims are Fugly..V6 turbo POS wont last 100k miles...Chevrolet v8 is the real deal that will go 500k miles...Both overpriced today...Navigator is all no show and a throw away suv with that Joke Arss V6..108k price tag..Suckers everywhere is America
Depends what your needs are. Navigator does have luxury features over the F-150, carries 8 people very comfortably, Tows the same weight, Air ride independent suspension, 8 foot deep bed with 2nd & 3rd row folded and secures your cargo in a locked, weatherproof containment. And...a fully loaded F-150 isn't far behind the Navigator in price.
When I was a kid and first watching MotorWeek, there wasn't much at all that could lay down a 0-60 in 5.9 or a quarter in 14.5 at 95, regardless of the badge. That said, I think that either of my grandfathers would've been skeptical of such a huge vehicle with a 215 cu in v6 laying down numbers like that. Today is the golden age of car performance.
You mean today is the golden age of ICE car performance. EV is proving to be a whole new game on a much higher level, and it's only in its mass production infancy.
….yes, no one could have believed back then…that a truck engine/chassis could offer such stunning performance. Such acceleration was the league of Porsches back in the 80s and 90s.
@@windwalker121 true….but EV range and charger availability still limits their practicality for outside the urban infrastructure
Kind of funny. Many years and many pounds ago, I owned a 1985 Mustang GT, one of the hottest American cars on the road (yes I said “one of”). Just for giggles, I looked up the performance of an’85 GT, depending on who you asked, the quarter mile was between 14.3 and 14.9. The 60 mph stopping distance was somewhere around 200 ft and the mileage was 16 city and 24 highway. This is the funny part, the performance of this behemoth matches or exceeds the mid 80s hottest cars while getting about the same mileage and able to carry 4 or more additional passengers and their luggage.
That’s pretty impressive for a turbo 6 cylinder pulling all that weight! Imagine that performance way back in the 80s! That would be in the super car territory! The styling and interior looks pretty good too!👌😎👍
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@@stevenwilliams2617 I also agree!👌😎👍
Fords have had power adjustable pedals for over 20 years & I'm surprised that most automakers don't use them too. They're great for tall people and also help keep short people farther from the airbag & dash in a collision.
And the personnel memory feature sets the driver's seat, steering wheel, mirrors and pedals for two different drivers. At 6'2" tall, I press the "Setting #1 button" and everything is adjusted for me. My wife at 5'2" presses "Setting #2 button" and within less than 5 seconds, everything is set for her comfort.
@@chrisgraham2904 a good prank on her would be to set hers for your height too. Let me know how it goes...
@@ml9867 ....and she would set my setting to hers. Let the war begin. LOL
My 2000 Lincoln Navigator has power adjustable pedals.. been available since ‘98, maybe ‘97 on the first gen expedition and f150 of that era
@@axelmacias6245 As North American automakers developed new innovations, they were always introduced first on the top Cadillacs or Lincolns. Usually 2 or 3 years before any other models had the features.
John Davis feels like an old friend.
Yes, he certainly does
Active Glide sounds like a lubricant 🤣
Unfortunately, it sounds like a "personal" one instead of one you would use on a car or motorcycle.
Omg did you bring the active glide !!!
"It is clear that the future of the automobile lies in batteries"
I don't think so.
It's either that or government mandated NA 0.9L inline 3s coming to your driveway, soon. Take your pick.
@@windwalker121 Hopefully enough people will wake up in 2022 and 2024 to at least forestall such a nightmare, as well as other competing nightmares.
What you think is irrelevant.
I liked the engine covers that came with the V8 Navigators and the early V6’s, now when you pop the hood you only get to see lots of rubber, plastic and some metal but nothing nice to the eye, and you could understand that in the Bronco, but not in here, not when you are competing with the Escalade and Grand Wagoneer.
I wonder if a more relaxed 4.0L twin turbo V8 would give better fuel economy than the stressed 3.5L V6, cause from my previous experience smaller engines pushed hard use more fuel than larger but lower revving ones.
Smaller hi rev engines burn out faster but unless you are loaded up with the whole family, pulling a trailer & sticking your foot in it at every stop light, I'm sure the a six cyl is adequate. Blame the government fuel economy standards.
At Idle or light use which is mostly how they are used less cyl less fuel.
I still think it should come standard with the biggest engine Ford made. Turbo schmurbo! Horsepower.
If Fiat can build a Patriot with a V8 Hemi then Ford can stick the 7L under the bonnet
I remember when you could get a pretty decent house for 100 grand.
I paid 71 grand for my first house----of course that was 1980!
I'm still enjoying very much my 2014 Lincoln Navigator and I won't be upgrading to the newest model anytime soon.
The video states the U.S. pricing, but here in Canada the 2022 Navigator starts at $112K and tops out at $138K.
This Navigator is my new favorite SUV.
The black wheels really distract from the appearance of the truck. The vehicle is blingy and the rims are just dull 🥱
Agreed. I loathe black wheels except on an all black vehicle. The “Murdered Out” look as they call it.
Yeah, black wheels look dirty...
@@Hybridgtr Even on a G80 M3 or G82 M4, black looks really good (and is only one of two of the recommended color suggestions along with dark blue, nothing else but the latter). No bright colors allowed!
I'll take black wheels over chrome any day. Chrome just looks cheap nowadays.
@@rangerover06sc Blacked out is actually a downgrade. Paint is extremely cheap. Metal finishes actually take much more resources to produce.
I still love this one, but Lincoln need some fresh designers. The Aviator is hands down next looking suv on the road but this is not
should have put 5.0 coyote or 5.2 predator supercharged if they want to compete with Escalade V
Why would Lincoln want to compete with the Escalade V? Their whole thing is going for interior and comfort over performance.
Maybe they don't want to compete with the Escalade V. Right now.
Yeah I don't think that's in Lincoln's DNA to produce a monster like the V.
With the depreciative quality of automobiles being built these days where surviving a major crash has a ZERO chance that you will live, riding one of these behemoths although it sucks gas, makes me feel so safe on the road.
What do you mean by that
What? Modern cars are much safer than old ones. WTF are you smoking?
John Davis is a bona-fide national treasure 🤴
1998
Ford detuned a couple of models for emissions and fuel economy, but I guarantee you won't feel any difference. If anything it may feel quicker since they have been tweaking the shift points on the 10 speeds.
I miss well engineered naturally aspirated engines
The future of automobiles lies in batteries as long as HUGE improvements are made (range, recharging times, and prices).
Future of automobiles is in hydrogen powered vehicles, not battery.
@@stormchasingk9 LOL BETA was a superior video recording format, but inferior VHS tape won the market.
The Ford Expedition is the cousin of the Lincoln Navigator and both are built on the F-150 pick-up chassis. Now that the Ford F-150 Lightning electric has arrived, electric versions of the Expedition and Navigator may not be far behind.
не понимаю я эти движения в сторону электричества , дизель моё всё !!
King Of Kings
It's sad the truck sounds so unimposing when you floor it. They need a Raptor R variant. Maybe a Navigator SHO?
It may lack the precision and technology of the Escalade, but I still think 🤔 its more elegant looking especially in black ⚫ 😉
It’s a Lincoln and as such they really need to step up the color pallete. Some 70s colors would be nice these disgusting boring colors shouldn’t be offered when your paying for a premium vehicle.
Navigator isn't anything to look at... has no real styling... just a box...
@@BuzzLOLOL just get a 1970s continental. Its just as bad on gas but hey Lincoln hasnt made an attractive car since the 80s and they refuse to cater to their strengths in saturated market. Just go for the old ones there so dope, minus not having an airbag.
corrrection its not as bad its way worse but its still a beautiful car
@@UnionPacific1997 - LOL! 1970's Lincoln prolly get under 10 MPG... It was a horrible time for engines...
They get rid of the V8 and replace it with a smaller engine to get the same poor gas mileage.what was the point 🤷
18.5 MPG for their mixed driving is really good for the power it has and what it weighs.
@@AB-coyote Container ships gets similar mpg.
@@kristoffer3000 except they don’t.
' Marketing ' ?
@@AB-coyote That's fair, they probably get better MPG.
Lack of a V8 is sad
agree Sir
Ford should at least offer the 7.3 as an option. Tune it to make the same hp and tq.
If y’all truly tested on regular then that Navigator did really well with acceleration and economy. It can get by on regular but it much prefers premium.
I love the Navigator, but those black wheels looks terrible.
@motorweek do y’all have a video of the 2007 Lincoln Navigator?
Amazing speed for a 6,000 lb barge
FL
I'm surprised they kept the weight at 6000 lbs after 20 years: most cars just get larger and heavier. I guess you can't add any more at that point LOL. My 2003 Navigator tipped the truck weight scale at just under 6000 lbs.
Those black wheels look so out of place on a chromed out white luxury SUV. And as much I’m rooting for Lincoln’s rebirth of American luxury, that’s exactly the reason they can’t compete with Cadillac or Land Rover. They need to get those details right first.
I work at a Lincoln dealer, the black wheels are an option.
They can compete with land Rover quite well. In fact they are much better built and the quality ratings are far higher.
@@vaughn-chemoody3340 We all know that. But Lincoln Navigators are not a status symbol the way an Escalade or a Range Rover are.
That interior 😘
Motorweek is praying someone other that Tesla will be able to provide what they like to showcase
First off battery operated vehicles in the US will never work... charging stations cost money to use more than petro over a year time, US electric grid is no where capable of thr capacity needed to charge 5 million autos in America at 1 time... California is a good example
this looked good when it first came out, but with the new model Escalade, it's time for Ford Motor Co. to release a new model
It will next year
@@Maxwell1989 Any ideas or predictions on the model name?
@@jumpers500 same name just fully redesigned
‘22 was a mid cycle refresh with a lot of additional tech content, new wheel designs, front and rear refresh, new interior materials and new Black Label themes. There is not a clean sheet redesign in ‘23.
@@Alanschmalzried There isn't, as I am working on them, aka U717 and U718, in Michigan and the EV versions as well on TE1.
Also note, that crash survivability in a Lincoln Navigator is extremely high. That's worth something...maybe everything.
2013
That's pretty quick
Replace the Raptors V6 with the GT500's engine and show Cadillac who's the boss!
No v8 is a deal breaker. For that price it should come with a house, garage, yard, and a dog...
They totally reinvented the navigator
Appreciate every review
Very nice this Lincoln Navigator
0-60 sure isn't bad, and better than I thought a v-6 turbo could move that beast. But I am terribly concerned about the engines ability and longevity when towing anything. Regular gas engines by their design are not good fuel efficient haulers. But the torque found in a V-8 and the fewer RPM's needed driving when towing still seems superior than a v6. And both inferior to a diesel engine.
Much nicer than the gross Escalade
Nice now make a full size car
You got to use premium gas for the EcoBoost high output premium gas gives you all the horsepower and torque if you use regular it's not going to give you all the power 0 to 60 is between 5.3 and 5.5 seconds with premium
I'm not a Ford guy but although this Navigator looks great honestly Lincoln as a brand is not reliable. They bring back the Continental as FWD then kill it off in favor of the SUVs and crossovers SMDH
I love your show too
i'd like to get one but with a 5.0 mustang engine
Wow nice mpv car.
At this point they should just start selling busses
The Navigator has British luxury and royalty, while the Escalade has German luxury and sportiness.
To much tech and the front facing camera looking at the driver is not my thing
Capable of carrying 8 people but I only ever see 1 middle aged white lady in the driver's seat
Karen mobile
The Navigator is more fuel efficient than the Porsche Cayenne SUV and half the price.
The LCD instrument panel looks like a cheap toy, analog gauges would have been better.
They bring back the square gauges found on the old Lincoln continentals from the 70s or some horizontal gauges. Everybody creams their pants over the shoddy tech packages instead of looking for style.
The Aviator looks a ton better. So does the Nautilus.
Long sleeves
Still a 6 cylinder !taho or Chevy v8 with deactivation! Hmm which one?
That’s a very thirsty minivan.
SUV not a minivan.
@@MauiWauiPineappleExpress a minivan is as a minivan does. If it quacks like a duck, etc.
@@mgmcd1 Not funny move on!>
@@MauiWauiPineappleExpress the truth is often not funny, but I agree, that minivan is not funny.
Thank God they are not doing electric. That would have been a fail.
"Screw the environment, I got money to burn, baby! Sorry grandkids, that's your problem!"
just came off a video of MW's 1998 model review. That OG model had a fetching exterior. Frankly Navi has to catch up to Escalade.
Nice
These would be best suited for a BEV with range extender
First!!!, love your show
A hotel on wheels.
MotorWeek you got to use premium gas you're not going to get the full horsepower and torque that's why you're 0 to 60 was 5.9 seconds they already clocked it at 5.3 to 5.5 0 to 60 other magazines and reviews
2013
Kindly Quote Power & Torque Figures In Kilowatts & Newtonmetres
Nice SUV but nowhere near as good as the Escalade, which outsells it by more than 4 to 1. And the Escalade has an engine cover and a hidden tailgate wiper.
Escalade starting price is $10K higher than the Navigator. You get what you pay for.
2013
@@terrellrobertson2258 ??? what does 2013 mean?
First off, I love motor week!! Lincoln is wayyyy overpriced, the black rims are sickening and should be aluminum chrome alloys. Black rims started to fade out several years ago bc people finally realized just how ugly they really are. That motor should be a v8 like a 7.3 gas or the new 6.8 gas. The only way I would have any ev period would be if it was given to me and then I would get something requiring fossil fuel after immediately selling it. Anyway, just my opinion and every one else is entitled to theirs as well!!
First off I love my wayyyy overpriced Lincoln . LOL and yes I totally agree Black rims are hideous on any vehicle to me it just looks cheap.
2013
It's definitely an improvement over what they used to be but frankly it doesn't hold a candle to an escalade or even a denali in my opinion it's still a Ford and it's still kind of garish
The exterior looks like something from 2011.
2001
Too excessive.
When did black rims look good ? I hate it Crome would’ve been better .
No ! .it cost way to much for what it is , just like all these new truck type vehicles !! They are a rip off. Can't drive that much money out of it over even 10 years !
turbo V8 would be better, these and other new cars are ridiculously over weight, that is unnecesary .. oops I cant spell that
The exterior is a mix of grotesque at the front and insanely bland at the rear.
Horrible gas mileage for that price point
Groteske Kiste.😁
Second. Love your show
Just another expensive overpriced plastic made luxury car that'll fall apart in 5 years
most consumers don't think about longevity
@@shinobusensui9395 spending 100 grand every 3 to 5 years on one of these sounds smart to me... I'll keep my Excursion...
My God, but it's ugly. No wonder Cadillac outsells it five to one. The interior, though, is lovely.
Gas still ain’t cheap enough for a mammoth of a suv. Gross. The planet is being killed by these low gas mileage SUVs. They’re not needed.
Ya, no they are not LOL 😂
The "scientists" need to right at some point....haven't been for 40+yrs with their false predictions.
@@bahagen we already see the affects today but okay
Land yacht
Wonder if it will have bottom-of-barrel reliability like all Lincolns today
This guy is a quack
Love the navigator. Keep the guys with prison tattoos doing oil changes and off camera.
What an ass! Tattoos don't mean you are stuck doing oil changes. Large companies such as Disney and Publix are now allowing them. Times have changed. I've seen CEO with tattoos. And if you knew anything you could tell those are not "prison" tats.
The fact you say something so judgmental as if it brought you some kind of feeling of superiority tells me maybe you're the one who should be going oil changes =)
Sophistication is not based on whether you have tattoos or not. Keep your opinions in the 1800s where they belong
No one should buy any Chevrolet or GMC vehicle.
Looks mediocre
Over priced
Nasty black rims are Fugly..V6 turbo POS wont last 100k miles...Chevrolet v8 is the real deal that will go 500k miles...Both overpriced today...Navigator is all no show and a throw away suv with that Joke Arss V6..108k price tag..Suckers everywhere is America
2013
Escalade Shits on this
Good then the Navigator will glide even better!
2013
This has to be the most pompous vehicle on the road even compared to a Rolls Royce..yuk
2021
Looks disgusting. Stop making modern cars.
Bring back JOHN DAVIS HE IS MY FATHER FIGURE!
Bring him back? Did you not notice who was hosting the episode?
Overpriced F 150, no longer useful.
Depends what your needs are. Navigator does have luxury features over the F-150, carries 8 people very comfortably, Tows the same weight, Air ride independent suspension, 8 foot deep bed with 2nd & 3rd row folded and secures your cargo in a locked, weatherproof containment. And...a fully loaded F-150 isn't far behind the Navigator in price.