TRACK TEST: VW T-Roc R vs Honda Civic Type R [FK8]
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 พ.ค. 2024
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Ever since it arrived on the scene in the 1990s, the Honda Civic Type R has been the go-to hot hatch for those looking for the ultimate driving experience on a budget. And the same can be said for the latest model, the FK8, which seems impossibly fast and engaging for a front-wheel drive car.
It's been giving the likes of the VW Golf GTI, Hyundai i30N and Renault Megane RS a headache for decades. But times are a changing. The hatchback is being overlooked for taller, bigger SUVs that give drivers a higher driving position and, seemingly, more practicality.
So does that mean we'll soon be driving hot SUVs? Well, possibly. We'll be pitting the VW T-Roc R, the SUV equivalent of the insane Golf R, against the Honda to see whether a crossover can be as fast and, crucially, as fun to drive as a traditional hot hatch.
That, and we had two fast cars and wanted to see which was the fastest. So buckle up for our very scientifically accurate and serious comparison of the T-Roc R and Civic Type R.
We'll kick things off with a simple drag race between the two, before seeing which one laps our test track the fastest.
Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:13 Civic Type R stats
0:40 T-Roc R stats
1:28 Drag test
2:45 T-Roc hot lap
4:44 Civic Type R hot lap
6:09 Results
7:16 Verdict
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Credit to the driver of the type R, despite the contents outcome it seems pretty clear on who can 'actually' drive
That T-Roc is RAPID wow! Would go for the Civic if given the choice unless I was some kind villain/transporter/undercover agent in which case definitely T-Roc. Awesome video!!!
Thanks Robert! It would have been even more rapid had I not fluffed the start... - Cam
Just ordered a t roc r on the basis of this/car wow videos. Love the fact most people won’t know how quick it is, including my mrs. Civic is nice enough to drive I’m sure but you can’t bring that car home can you? Look at it
T roc - in snow is much better and out of street ...
T-roc also has DSG gearbox which is one of the best, much faster than the manual box in the Civic.
depends on the honda driver, right...?
@@vmax03 I hate to say this as someone who will only own manual cars... but DSG's are so fast to the point now that even if a good driver with a clutch stop and a short shift kit were to try his fastest, there's no beating a DSG that can shift in a matter of a few milliseconds.
@@ethanheitz4489 you've got that point. Beating it is most likely impossible. But stating that its *much* faster is quite biased. I guess you can get close to shifting times of a DSG when you're an experienced driver.
@@vmax03 Right, but like I said, DSG gearboxes can shift in mere *milliseconds* . It is almost impossible for manual drivers to shift that fast, and even if they do, there's no guarantee they will be able to repeat shifting that rapidly every time. A DSG not only shifts *quickly*, it also will shift that quick *every time* . Humans usually lack that kind of repeatability. This is why it's more interesting to watch Spec Miatas race than F1 cars, F1 is fast but every car will pretty much do the same, whereas in Spec Miatas, you can really see good DRIVERS shine through.
This is like the BTEC version of Carwow.
T Roc R for me.
Good choice. Blisteringly quick, practical and it won't make you cringe every time you look at it (but I wish it was as fun to drive as the CTR) - Cam
@@YesAutoUK Practical.
Wow imagine getting beat in your track focus CTR by a crossover lols
GOT an R its sooooooooooooooooooo quick
Hi everyone! Cam here. Yeah, I got a pretty bad launch with the T-Roc R, we did a couple of runs and launch control didn't seem to activate. My bad, but it just shows how quick the T-Roc R is in a straight line. That being said, the Civic Type R is so much more rewarding to drive. So which would you go for? Lemme know!
T Roc R Zooooom
Launch control in manual or dsg? Stupid question. I want them both.
I have a t-roc.r and owned 2 golf r,2 scirocco r,s and the t-roc is just as fast and a really usable comfortable drive
Owner of t roc r from 2020 its good car go test drive one . your be very pleased. Would you really drive around in a civic? And park on your drive lol
Find some day for sunny day test for civic fk8r and troc r 😆
Got a black fk8. Love it.
Got a blue one a use it for what it was designed for....the track. Not drag racing 4wd cars in the wet with an inevitable outcome🙄. Best car I’ve ever owned.
@@davemorris6747 100% agreed
Genuinely surprised by the speed of the T-Roc! Given how wet this country is for much of the year it may not be a bad choice, and I bet the interior is better. Still, would probably choose the Civic for the fun factor :-)
It's rapid and my launch didn't do it justice. T-Roc's cabin was a little on the cheap side, but nowhere near as garish as the CTR. Still, for practicality AND fun, the Type R wins by a mile!
@@YesAutoUK it isn´t fun, because you are not good driver ... then is t roc better and funny car than civic ,,,
T REX is more practise car and faster car ...
Love it Guys :)
Cheers Harry!
Where is this drag strip?
We use Sywell Aerodrome in Northamptonshire - Cam
Better to compare using rolling drag race & flying lap time.
keď si myslíš, že máš top hothatch s obrovským krídlom a porazí ťa crossover s menším výkonom ...
FWD with all that power is shite in the wet especially in the UK!!!
This shows anyone who don't get that, when a heavy 4wheel drive family suv beats a type r???
And b4 u say it that the Honda is more fun 2drive, go an test drive a golf r or amg a35 or 45 or Yaris gr, all 4wheel drive that gives bags of fun and loads of grip in the wet!!!
Why do u still buy cars with all the power through the front or rear wheels lol
VW more power than honda
T Roc R has a tiny ass boot so not really a family SUV. Boot is smaller than the Golf R due to the sweeping roof line. I’ve got a Golf R and would def go for the Civic Type R in this particular instance
That’s funny because the t-roc’s boot is exactly 104 litres bigger than the golf’s
@@MJD2201 Still small for an SUV when you have a family.
All I heard was 'im bored in the t-roc r'. The only reason anyone would buy this is cos they lost the argument with their other half.... but not so badly that they have the cabrio model
Well, you're right. I was bored in the T-Roc R. Imagine WANTING a Cabrio... - Cam
Good. I wait for love from you 💝💖
tiguan R ?
oof yes please
Love how you make the vw faster than a type r gues thats the way it is
It's fair to disagree with the result or question our approach. We had two cars in and a runway, so wanted to make a fun video. But the idea we wanted the VW to win is not even remotely true.
Whomever driving the Type R can't launch it with a stick worth a damn.The rain isn't the issue it's the lack of either knowledge of the car or they have no idea how to put the power on to the pavement. It was almost like he had traction control on which would kill it's launch. It was flat out ugly to watch.
It was actually just very slippy on that white line. We tested several launches (feed in the clutch, drop it, TC on and off). The best compromise was to effectively drive off and claw the lap time back through the lap. Would be a very different story in the dry.
@@tylerheatley3421 I own a 2019 those tires are just not even spinning almost like it's in traction control or bogging out. Maybe it's because I drive mine as a daily and on the track that it seems like a rather bad launch in the rain. I usually get a great launch wet or dry. What kind of tires are you guys using? That could be why and also use 18 inch set of tires like most of the community with Type R's. The Type R all around launches and handles better with 18 inch tires. They made huge mistake with those monster wheels
Civic is £10k cheaper and more space
@@robertblack6630 if it handles better with 18 inch wheels why have Honda fitted 20 inch rims.? Are you saying for example they could lap the ring faster on 18 inch rims.
Never a fair comparison. AWD vs FWD, DSG vs manual in a wet condition.
But who wants a SUV ?? a bit of a “girlie “ car if you ask me
Americans. We keep buying bigger and higher cars, always complaining about safety, convince, and visibility, but we still want to go faster than everyone else. This is why SUV's like the T Roc R, Cherokee Trawkhawk, Urus, most AMG SUV's, and Model X's are selling like hotcakes.
I know, I'm not a fan either. To me, handling is very important, so I prefer smaller and lighter cars, and I usually don't even care for having four doors. I just don't see why you wouldn't put these fast and powerful drivetrains in a smaller, lighter package, and then sports cars could still have their place on the market, but because big, high, and fast is what sells, SUV's are becoming the new sports cars, or I suppose you could say they are killing sports cars. As much as I hate to admit all that, it's the way things are going.
All this means is sports cars just need to stay up on their tuning game for older models if they want to wipe the floor with SUV's these days, because the bar has been set higher now.
Not the best comparison to be fair, use a proper circuit for a better comparison and the Civic will walk it.
This test was just meant to be a bit of fun. We had a runway and two cars, so we made our own track and raced them. But we're in the process of securing a dedicated track for future episodes - Cam
@@YesAutoUK Fun i guess but you don't use a spanner as a screwdriver if you get my point.
T roc is faster ... taht´s a reality ... Honda is slower ...
Fwd vs 4wd 🤦♂️ really stupid.
and the track is wet. Stop drooling in front of VWs, shit without souls, no driving pleasure and way too expensive (and with hard plastics now).