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In the mood for a hot hatch drag race? Of course you are!
The Honda Civic Type R is one of the most popular hot hatches on the planet. From either the front or the back, it’s instantly recognisable as a Type R! Once you take a closer look, you’ll find a 2-litre 4 cylinder turbocharged petrol engine under the bonnet, which will deliver 320hp and 400Nm.
So looks and performance are all good - but what chance does it stand against the new Golf R over the quarter-mile? Just like the Type R, the Golf is powered by a 2-litre 4 cylinder turbocharged petrol to deliver 320hp. However, the Golf R can deliver slightly more torque, coming in at 420Nm. But that’s not all! While the Type R is just FWD and a manual, the VW has AWD as well as launch control!
Does the Honda stand a chance? You’ll have to keep watching to find out!
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"dual clutch 7 speed... all wheel drive..."
race is over. zero chance.
AWD does almost the whole thing. Without it you just struggle like seen in the video. I hate it, I also have to deal with it. Driving loss would be an issue over 100 kph, but that wings on the Civic may result in a quite high air resistance. The Civic never had a chance.
The same cars (in terms of power and air resistance, not in weight and drive loss) - one with AWD, one with FWD - will end in almost the same time for 0 to 200 kph. But the Drag Race will end sooner.
Yeah... and that dual clutch 7 speed (DQ381)... it's a nice gearbox. I've got in my Cupra, but I don't think it's really fast. But faster than a stick shifter...
Agreed. This is pointless. Drag rsce doesn't prove anything. How abt a lap arnd the track.
Absolutely true....more gears usually means quicker shifts. 320 hp 7 speed car vs 320 hp 9 speed...I’d put my money on the 9 speed
@@Charmer4856 But...you will have to shift more. Or it doesn't make a big difference, because the higher gears don't effect the lower speed acceleration and there are literally two or three overdrives. That is the case with the 9G Tronic (Mercedes). Nowadays chances are low that all 8, 9 or 10 gears were used for maximum performance.
With the DQ381 it means, you are in 5th gear at the end of the drag strip. It is possible that a manual transmission would be in 4 th gear. I'm too lazy to compare the gear ratios of both cars...
@@robertmcdonald9762 Yeah, it wouldn't make much difference, though it shouldn't be ignored. But every German car manufacturer (with petrol cars I've driven) uses only six of their seven, eight or nine gears for (limited) maximum speed (~250-260 kph). Every higher gear is an 'overdrive' to save fuel and to reduce noice. A six speed manual transmission could do the same - just without an overdrive, so it's not really eco friendly and noice reducing.
Like I said... I don't know what is the case with the Civic Type R. My last car with six speed manual transmission (from VAG) had a totally useless 6th gear for maximum performance. Maybe Honda drives a different way and (almost) redlines the car in 6th car, so they are not much different. But... the gear shifts will take much more time, even with some clever electronic innovations and if you torture the clutch. Around 300 ms at least for each gear change...
I thing the bigger point is the traction at the start. It's just horrible and it costs a lot of time.
I knew he'd make a thing about them both ending in R
Not exactly the most unpredictable man in the world
Expected him to say we R gonna find out
@@nickoroy2297 seriously, stop your spamming shit.
@@gavinwyllie7855 i also think the Honda is better
ZX
me smashing things after Type R loses the race, and cry under the pillow
Me too my Honda butt was hurting real bad, it’s still pulsating a little bit but after not watching the video for hours I’m feeling a little better. 😊
😂😭😂
Its a fake video, the type r shits on the golf..
@@hondasarefaster5914 on what planet ? Lol
@@hondasarefaster5914 on the track - yes but in a drag race - no. Also the Golf R is a way better overall car than the Civic type R (better interior, infotainment, looks etc.)
Great video! Love the rolling race! Would love to see them with just a tune on them!👍🏻
"Took me 1.6s to count to 10" - Mat
Bet it takes him 45s to cook minute rice or something
LOL i remember that
LMAOO RIGHT WHEN HE SAID IT IN THE VIDEO I FOUND THIS COMMENT 🤣🤣
🤣🤣🤣🤣 Hello Mat! --Yanni
0:48 Thought Yianni's gonna show up when he said that...
Yianni's clueless with manual cars.
@@ultraguy8771 not really, just few episodes ago he was driving manual and did good like nobody's fucking business
@@mroutcast8515 gr yaris vs evo, right?
@@qeedzhr yup.
Yianni in a non-supercar, pssst !!!
i feel attacked by how he predicted every single one of my thoughts as a type r fan 😂😊
Manual vs manual would have been a more fair race. That being said the Mk8 is a beast
No, run the fastest versions of each car.
We don’t get the manual in the uk I think
Hey you guys finally found a location with sun, and no rain!
The 1 nice day in England lol, and they make use of it by racing these lol
@@draxxsklounst6595 it legit rained later
Only in that conditions must race.
Ah Damm wanted to like your comment but you’re on 187 likes Rn
Weve had 4-5 days no rain a week ago. In summer you can get 7-14 days no rain. Timing is everything.
00:01
"Which is better Golf AAAAAAAAR or Honda Civic type AAAAAR"
Matt voice
Also mats voice “click on da papapbana”
Which*
Witch car do you like best? 🙄
2:06 “sounds like a toy CAAAAW”
Lol
Civic type r is always best..
If you want to cheat the soft/rev limiter, let the car slightly roll at very low speeds and set the gear to N and then you’ll able to rev all the way to the red spot.
That golf r has got way more than 320 hp. A 12.3 second 1/4 mile means it probably puts 350 to the wheels which is over 400 at the crank. The Mercedes-AMG A45 is rated at 421 hp at the crank and put in a 12.2 second 1/4 mile, so that’s the kind of power we are talking about. The golf r mk8 is way underrated!
339hp is what a youtuber got when he tested golf r so idk its weard how quick this thing is
Just so Americans understand. These are forced induction engines. Power is variable and depends more on the capacity to deal with heat. They can give a higher HP number but then some idiot discovers the car can't sustain the official power figure for long time. So they give a lower power figure. And btw Civic overheats also despite being pompously called a track car. These are turbo engines and power comes at the expense of endurance.
he said he would count to 10, not count 10 seconds, there's a big difference so I dunno what everyones fussing about
Because the civic needs ten seconds to win lol
@@matthewortenzio4365 sorry to be that guy but it only needed 1.6 seconds as shown in the video
@@rdmz135 i don’t think you are sorry to be that guy
The civic is trash and the drag race don’t need counting to 10
True dat lol
I like the horn test. Who else agrees?
Me too
Hush your mouf. We don't want another unnecessary addition to an already long intro.
@@broskimedula5300 yeah we do it adds to the anticipation
Morgan Belbin no it doesn’t it’s a pain in the ass
Yes we do i wanna hear what the horn sounds like
Several reasons i bought an MK8 R: the new AWD system (by Magna), the awesome DSG (done with manuals after 20+ years), just overall capability as a daily driver in ALL types of weather AND ...its not FWD.
youre gonna start feeling real stupid when you keep skipping you favorite songs on those stupid buttons as you make a turn. Also good luck changing the climate settings in the dark. Also I hope you arent planning on keeping it for too long cuz all my VW cars had a failed DSG after 60k miles. You americans have access to so many more cool cars than us europeans for way cheaper and you get the dogshit VWs. We dont get the Elantra N for example, really cool car. For the overpriced golf you could have gotten a kia stinger, a much better car and a much better transmission, a real automatic which is not only more comfortable as a daily, it also isnt a time bomb.
Guy in the Civic, seems like such a humble and nice bloke 👍 But wow what a difference launch control and a dual clutch make, damn that Golf is fast 😳
Surely much more humble than many Honda fans here on the comments section.
The horn test made this video rise to a superior level 😂👍
@Rahin Shah yeah, I agree with you 😁
"I'm gonna count to 10"
"onetwothreefourfivesixseveneightnineten
He could have just said "onetoten" as that is what he said he was going to do.
Well he did it, he did not said 10 seconds, but count to ten :)
Amazing videos Matt!
Use to hate CTR rear end so much but seen one with meaty 18s on the freeway… it looked so mean from the back! Best looking hatch with the right wheels 👌🏼
The 'R' stands for "Ripperooni". The more you know...
Daaaaamn
Ripperooni? nn l’ho capita (I didn’t get it)
Rest in peace
More like gaperoni 😂😂
Yeah and sucks ass compared to German Engineering
Before i wacht the drag race: there is 0% chance for civic!
I mean... FWD, costs 6500 less, manual.
@@gns942 I know....and golf has 340ps not 320 😅
@@gns942 if im afford to spend +30k on a car id drop in the extra 7k on a 4wd and better handling and destroying honda fandboys.
@@ondrejjanoska660 I would still pick the Civic Type-R though, because I love the manual on it along with all the Honda engineering that makes it a Type-R.
@@gns942 8R comes in a manual (at least it does in the US) and German engineering is also a thing so that goes both ways.
That said, two different cars with 2 different purposes, a Gti clubsport would be better competition IMO.
I love your shows mate!!!! 💕🚘🚘🚘 love from Bangladesh 🇧🇩
Given both are going to be street driven i’d say this is a massive win for the Golf R. Its the better street car. Also its moving like it has a stage 1 APR tune
Don't you just love that bloke in the Civic? He sounds so genuine :)
He's no Stig.
@@Golo1949 bahahaha he’s literally a professional
He's really cool always calm voice speaking yeah enjoy races with him in it
Now that the starter girl is back, is she using her real voice or the recorded voice? 🤔
Asking the real questions here
Its gonna be like this, its the same recorded voice that has been used for many videos 🤣🤣
😂😂😂
Loll
@@daddydistress tf
I’m giggling so hard!!! Lol this is fun to watch!! ThAnk you!
Mal ne Frage an alle 8R Fahrer...beim rolling Race ist da nicht die Driftmode einstellung der Allradeinstelkung überlegen? Da die Kraft stärker auf die Hinterräder gelenkt wird?
Und könnte man zum Start aus dem Stand den Allrade/Race Mode nutzen und dann ab z.b. 100kmhbauf den Driftmode umschalten um mehr Vortrieb zu bekommen? Und somit z.b. bessere 1/4 Meilen Zeiten zu erzielen wie komplett im Allrad zu fahren?
Über Feedback wäre ich dankbar :)
*"Well it took me 1.6 seconds to count to 10"*
LMAOOOOO😂😂😂😂
1.6
And still won on the time
Maybe on ur next race u can do a test between the new golf R and the old golf R
Every generation of golf R
That is a very good idea Volkswagen kid
@@daniszekely7857 Bonus if they can find a Golf Rallye as well.
@@daniszekely7857 none of them match the Civic
@@dragospahontu cause they are on another level compared to Civic 😁
Should get both cars on a dyno before testing them. Bet that golfs been dialed up
The golf R has so much power despite it's semi automatic transmission. It's the AWD.
Let's make this happen guys let's comment until it happens a race of matt and yaani racing on foot.. The power of the people 💪💪💪
*Yanni not Yaani
@@cameronlotter1392 Yianni actually
@@MM-sj6xq played himself
Never gonna happen. Yawn.
Lol I think we can agree Matt wins that one
I'll post it here again till Mat sees:
My Mrs pointed out that Mat's Instagram is basically
'Ma Twats On Cars'
and I can't unsee it 😂😂😂😂
Why did you do that?
Now I can't unsee it! (ಥ﹏ಥ)
Oh sh- 🤣
Let's give Mat some "space" 😉😉
I don't get it can you please explain?
@@irtazaabbas5552 Mat Watson Cars.
MaT watsOn Cars. Ma Twats On Cars.
Twat is a stupid person or a woman's genitalia. Pick one. I would go with first one.
The more fair race would be between the Civic Type R, and the GTI tbh... Type R might stand a chance LOL
Apart from the more torque than type r, the dsg gearbox play a big part
Matt: *Counting to "10" and winning*
Honda Fanboys: *Cries in VTEC*
Nyooooooommmmm
Thanks!
Yeah might be the first time civic fan boy cry but how many time your golf R fan have cry can you tell us lol...
He didn't count to 10 and win... Matt lost that time
Golf has much more power than 320km and dsg does the job ;)
Mother : son can you count 1 to 10 ?
Son: which type, 1 Mississippi or Mat's counting version ?
Mother : Confused !
Love the shirt! Where can I find it?
yeah,straigth lane,but in nurburgring civic do 7,43 and golf 8 r 7,51 :D
I'm guessing the civic lost the drag hahah
No hate I have a civic 10th myself and love it
Megane faster than both
@@marcing2505 not really, renault made a megane that is worth 75 thousand dollars to get the civic down for only 3 seconds, if you don't buy the version with carbo-ceramic brakes that I repeat costs 75 thousand dollars, no normal megane is faster than the civic.
@@EduS2K_ only 3 seconds? 3 seconds x 10 laps = half a minute XD
@@marcing2505 I keep saying that renault had to make a version of 75 thousand dollars because the normal version that costs the same as the civic could not lower the time, it is as if Honda now takes and improves its civic of 40 thousand dollars until it costs 75 thousand Do you think that the time would not go down even more? Obviously, but you have to be realistic, what an idiot buys a civic or a megane for 75 thousand dollars hahahahaha
Me before watching: There's no way the Golf R would lose
Me after watching: Damn it hurts to be right
I dont know what made you think that, you should already know that the type r has always shit on the golf.
@@hondasarefaster5914 LOL
@@James-ns6jm yeah it is lol isnt it, these idiots that think the golf is faster than the honda
@@hondasarefaster5914 Well it is and this video shows it. The honda got a massive gapachino. How's life in the rear view mirror hahaha.
It's time to change your glasses dimension so you can see better who win and who lose.
We basically want you to race the Golf R against everything please.
And make a Dyno test with it please! 😉
Please
I agree with this statement 100%
@@boppzoli The truth is in the dyno
@@boppzoli actually one guy went on the dyno and the Vw has 339 Hp and 440 Nm
And this is what is known kids as German horsepower, 320hp translates to 320hp in the worst of conditions, like 120 °F outside, poor fuel quality, heat soak, one cylinder not working, clogged air filter, no oil pressure, coolant leaking and lugging the engine with a blown gasket and a thrown rod. Then and only then is it making just 320hp.
A drag race is very good!......BUT which car is best in the twisties?
Which would be of more interest tbh for people you like to drive cars.
😎👍
Matt:"going to be interesting to see what happens". I think everyone knows exactly what is going to happen
That wasnt a race, that was slaughter.
Put them on a track
@@denislazar8703 Cause we all buy our cars for track usage and not everyday driving right?
@@Ersy90 ah yes everyday drag races
Golf r will slaughter the type R....
@@karl8805 around track? No. Simply because type r is track focused car. On drag strip of course golf r would win with AWD. They have similar power so those results shouldn't be surprising.
i have a manual mk7 R and was stage 1 and intake when i raced my first manual Type R who only had an intake and intercooler and i gotta say he kept up pretty well even though i beat cheeks.. power should have been 357hp in my R and ~315 in his Type R.
The civic is lighter and has less parasitic drag .
Thats the new golf vs old civic?
Well...let us wait for the new Type R and we will race again.
Well this new Honda Type R are also newer than Golf R mk7.. so not fair either.. now this is fair
@@norreanelucypadmencie5113 the old civic Type R vs golf7 R, yes.
But this Golf8 R in this Video has to race agains the new Civic TypeR.
Thats fair.
Matt : I'm going to let him go and then count to 10.
Also Matt : Counts to 10 seconds in roughly 2 seconds
counting to 10 doesn't mean counting in seconds.
He did exactly as he said, he didn't say 10 seconds
Dsg will always beat a Manual so it doesn't stand a chance.
Considering the race took about 12.3 secs to complete, if Matt's count took 10 secs then you must really wanted that Honda to win. I don't know if the Type R comes in auto, but I suspect the Golf being AWD will still beat the Honda over the 1/4 mile.
@I WANT [ S•Ę•Х ] ••• Rita , 25 y.o ! FU
We all know Germans underrate their power figures. I want the Golf R.
Actually they use to overrate ! :))
Get A TTRS U Can Run Low 2 If U Tune It
Don't bother there boring mate 🤷♂️
@@greggsmith5391 German cars are boring?
@@omarmahmood5011 wouldn't say all German cars mate my old M3 was superb fun. But golf's yes I have a stage 2 r and iam trying my best to enjoy it but struggling mate. Just a honest post.
Well done VW you smashed it 👏👏👏
Nope, they paid for it. Fake
@@lizakoronovsky227 oh stop
Fear None hahaha pity you
@@lizakoronovsky227 nope....pity u
@@lizakoronovsky227 Destroyed the Type R they always giving excuses 😂😂🤣🤣
Compare time on a Nurburgring then we can talk!
Yeah because normal people spend 99% of their time on the track and not public roads......
@@RizwanJaved26 So you're saying a drag strip is more representational of daily driving? 🤔 I'm not a Honda fanboy, but your logic is flawed
Please do Golf R vs Cupra St, they have both all wheel drive...would be interesting!
We want a drag race between the Golf R vs the A45 AMG.
Knowing that the A45 has dominated for a while, I want to know how good this Golf R would stand against it! 💯
th-cam.com/video/GdX1YiruB64/w-d-xo.html
A45s is still fastest
W8 for the New rs3
@@mtn9752 ppl say that since 10 years but a45s still is fastest, seems like they are at the 4 cyl limit thats all and rs3 has 2.5 r5 and wven with that still slower, well i dont care anyway because im not mercedes or audi fan since they started to make cara for idiots who want to waste their money, other car manufacturers offer much more for much less so i dont care about my cars brand anymore
@@mateuszkozik1166 Haha thats true. Every Year u hear wait for the new RS, wait for the new M, wait for the new Tesla Roadster, wait for the Devel Sixteen... Iam still waiting for that Devel.. for 10 Years now.
honda:where is my laptop?!
Every fwd drive car driver going away depressed after watching this
Would love to see some FWD rolling races, between cupras civic type-r's etc
golf r awd
Civic type r.. Compare with small cars.. Its vw golf
@I WANT [ S•Ę•Х ] ••• Rita , 25 y.o ! why
@@mohammedsahadmm5838 Civic is best
@@dragospahontu that for.. U.. Enjoy.. With.. 🛥️
Makes me feel old when under 15s for the 1/4 mile in the 80 used to be fast.
Er
Wow.
Now we have cars doing low 9 seconds from the factory (765LT/SF90)
@Richard Errington . Yeah , I remember doing a 13.2 at 107mph at Santa Pod in my TVR Griffith 500 about 20 years ago on a RWYB day and I was one of the quickest there . To think that car would be whupped by a ‘humble’ hatchback these days is quite something !
Yeah those 4WD hatches are unbeatable off the line. I have a Leon Cupra DSG and learned not to pick on Rs and S3s from a standstill. If already moving though.. different story, power to weight kicks in and goodbye.
Somewhat surprised the Tyre R lost in a rolling race, I guess the manual change really hurts.
Wow! Absolutely demolished! I didn’t expect the type R to lose by that much.
I mean awd vs fwd launch control vs none and 3.5 rev limit is a shitty launch plus a 7 spd auto...
Maybe, but with turns, the Type R is better, this is not for nothing that the Type R beat the FWD record on the Nurburgrïng
@@Raidokiin ya next time your at Nurburgring that would come in handy, but at every stoplight you'll get your ass kicked
@@Raidokiin let us know when you go the track
@@Raidokiin
Soooo, let's say the track is wet... Golf all the way.
This seem more interesting than my zoom class
Im about to teach my zoom lecture, and I agree :D
Definitely 😂
I wanna see the Golf R on a dyno...this has more then 320 Hp
I agree, VW got their stats wrong
@@karanverma429 Yes, it produces 20-40hp more on the dyno. The main reason it is faster is gearing. It holds over 300hp even after a gear change. I imagine the civic will not be in this power range after a shift change and needs more revs before it is producing the same power.
@@boothatron i dont think you know how hp works with gearing.....
@@tommieboi707 Perhaps I'm not explaining it properly. Watch this for a better explanation of the point I'm trying to make. th-cam.com/video/fJ5rmIcJBIY/w-d-xo.html
From 12:30. Gives the technical explanation why the Golf R stays with the A45 in a drag race.
A lot do. VWs power claims for the S3, R and Cupra are all marketing rubbish. Individual dynos are not accurate but at a meet recently a few of us compared the 3 and the Cupra 290 in the group actually had the most power, despite claiming the least.
What's a pirate's favorite car?
The Golf Arrgh
The Golf is a BEAST 😈
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As a Honda fan boy, I need to say, its all about turns 😏 Damn this Golf is quick af!!
Rear diff will fix that for the R... It is game time now!!!
@@backseatdriver8902 turns? Road turns will be plenty fine for the GOLF to compete with the R, ANYWHERE but the track the GOLF R will be superior
With fwd? Lol ok
@@JaguarKing1 do you know whats and Integra DC2 ? Civic Ek9? Or have you ever driven the FK8? If not, you’re not ready for this discussion.
@@JaguarKing1 imagine being stuck in the past thinking FWD is a bad thing. Check the nurburgring times for a stock type r lmfao
The VW will be paying visits back to the dealership with all kinds of issues where as the Honda looks HOT and will be as reliable as the Universe.
Everything he’s saying… relatable. I didn’t drive my ctr for some time because I just like driving my little s10 extreme to toss parts in the rear but there’s no Bite in the civic clutch and no change of feel. My biggest issues is the rev hang it has
lets see the track battle!
The VW is not a track car; the Honda, with all its exterior plastic excess and 10,000 mile tires, must be.
But this is a DragRace! You are in the wrong place!
I bet the Golf is only marginally slower.
Roger Sears and the Civic Type R is not a drag car mate
How many times do you go to a track? Even if the type r got the golf r on the top end it doesn’t make a difference. How many times do you drive until you are 125 mph? The golf destroyed the type r. Period.
When there is a R in the gauge cluster of the Golf R makes me feel like I'm in reverse lol
Even with such disadvantages the Civic eats the Golf R for lunch at any racetrack. --real life driving😳😵💫🤣
0:18 Audi S3🙃
The mk8 Golf R is something else. Really outshines the GTI in desirability this time round
Why it’s even faster and duller than the previous Rs, at least the GTi has some involvement with a manual
@@ericpisch2732 I'm simply saying it seems that the R is a marked improvement over the MK7 whereas the GTI has struggled to top the excellent predecessor, though I am a slightly biased MK7 GTI owner.
@@ericpisch2732 well I disagree. I think the current Golf 8 R is miles more interesting than the GTI. Besides, a Golf R should be the ultimate all-rounder hot hatch. So the DSG fits it perfectly. Same with AWD
And the last time round
@@CyAn-S I like the thing. I just worry that it’s gonna push $50K in the states with any options.
I think the second drag race was the best drag race on TH-cam 😂
Drag rape...
And even with the headstart Honda fans will stay it’s not a fair race 🤣🤣🤣
Oh dear this is gonna upset a lot of Type R owners....
Scary that little Golf could maybe keep up with my GLC 63 and Audi RS3 in stock form!!!
"I still smashed him." Hur hur hur...
Looooool 🤣🤣🤣
VW are as honest with horsepower as they are emissions 😂
You nailed it. Typical VW press car
@@MrMegacurie you might be correct but with 20hp Less on the golf do you think it will make a difference in who wins?
Somethings up with either car.
1:38 If my car dont sound like this, I ain’t gonna drive it.
Nürburgring:
Golf 7 R 7:51
Civic Type R 7:43
Always remember that the road is not only a straight line, but also turns.
And this features the 8 R lmao
Always remember that the driver is also important so just ease off your hormones
@@crok3106 Do you really think that for the records of the most famous track VW driver is weaker than from Honda? I recognize the human factor, but numbers are numbers and they don't lie. My hormones are out of whack.
Wasn't that Type R time done with a non production version of the car? Plus honestly if you just flipped wheels between the cars the times would probably flip as well.
Different day.
Hey Mat! We waiting a video with the Golf R versus the last model of TYPE-R 🥇
Since you mentioned a lap time comparison, you should do one!
This new R is a force to be reckoned with no doubt. It’s going to be up there with the A45 and RS3 no doubt. Crazy
Easy tiger, I think you’re getting a bit ahead on that one. A stock Rs3 would body the R even if it were tuned. With just software the RS3 is mid 10s.
@@thomasburns3345 and the A45s bodies the RS3
@@thomasburns3345 lol no
@@SecretPlaybook lol yes! 4 pot vs 5 pot?... 5 pot wins.
@@thomasburns3345 theres already videos of golf R vs a45s and its pretty close so youre the tiger buddy
The new gulf R is on boost most of the time though the gears.That’s the secret to this car 🥇😍
The mk7 also has that, I could take advantage of it when I had my mk7 gti in a roll race by starting off the race with a downshift or upshift and getting the full boost right away instead of having a small delay. I’m sure you probably know or have felt how some automatic turbocharged cars sometimes don’t hit the full boost target in-gear until the upshift and then it will be able to hit full boost and pull harder. Party the gear ratio and more load, but some turbocharged automatic cars have the anti-lag in between gear shifts and it helps big time.
Though you can get better times with the longer gears in the manual mk7 gti vs the dsg.
Can’t wait to test drive the manual Mk8 golf r, I hope the gearing is longer to take advantage of the power as the manual Mk7 R has short ratios.
@@PapiAndrey yes my TTs DSG has like a second delay then in goes Andy 😂
@@strikeeaglemodels1588 have you ever considered tuning it? It would get rid of that issue and you’d be surprised how much better the dsg can be, I thought it was already one of the best transmissions out there and a dsg tune just made it even better. Even a jb4 would make the tts much much quicker
@@PapiAndrey I am already on a REVO stage one,RamAir induction and a Mistershaft GT exhaust system.Getting the Wagner Intercooler soon.Does 0-60mph in 4.2 secs
Yes, basically much of the time loss in the type R is not because of the slower shifts, it's because each time throttle is lifted boost drops to 0 and it literally takes 1 -1,5 second to ramp up target boost. That's how factory map works in every new car because of emissions. I had a DSG car before and staying on boost is what made it quicker than more powerful cars.
Stage one tune and the Golf R will be a monster
We all knew the Golf R would win easily. This wasn't even a race 😂
yeah its kinda pointless. dragraces between hothatches are kinda dumb in the first place. thats just not what they are for. i want times on a twisty mountain road. now that tells you more.
Yep. Since no corners are ever involved, the Golf wins. It's certainly all that's needed in the UK, where none of you is much use around a corner, I've noticed.
AWD DCT vs FWD Manual with similar numbers...who actually thought the CTR had a chance.
@@SampleTracks2224 well we seem to be producing some pretty good F1 drivers who smoke the competition or other nationalities.
Type R PoS
this video should be titled : mat trying to annoy honda's driver
I think we all knew what would happen before watching. However I also think we knew which one is more unique, more enjoyable and more engaging
Good safe, mate
@@MT-kx2uc I'll happily take the car that makes my heart beat faster, no matter what people think. The Golf is cool too, and has some great features like 4WD, but from an enthusiast standpoint I think the Type R is the most fun and connected of the two
The only question I have is, did your race driver do the Honda Dance to turn traction control all the way off?
Absolute waste of time drag racing a fwd manual against an awd auto.
And the golf is 340 proven
@@martinjackson6520 agreed.....last time he raced the Type R vs the GS Yaris....in the wet. Matt definitely doesn't like Honda
@@SuckMyApathy don’t get me wrong love the golf r but not a fair comparison atall.
It's just a comparison, not a competition. The R is faster in drag races and the type R faster around the track, y'all need to chill
They have an identical RRP and power figures. It's clear that the Golf was going to win, but it was still useful to see how 2 similar cars (to the eyes of the consumer) would perform.
That 2nd start was the funniest yet, Matt's laugh!
Agreed!
Everybody: noO
ME: Does the hipe dance not such a good hatchback now
There is a reason why these Golf R's are dominating. Everyone that's bought and dyno'd one is getting results of 350hp+.
Nice to see a manufacturer lie (in a good way) about the HP figures.
That golf R is almost an 11 sec car 🔥🔥🔥
But it looks crap so ......
@@Mizzkan better than that honda, it looks like they let a 9 year old with autism design that car with crayons.
@@Mizzkan This explains the difference between German engineering and Japanese engineering, the Germans simply make the better cars in terms of speed, power and overall performance. This Honda Civic type R is an embarrassment the fact that it’s FWD says a lot as-well.
I actually prefer the look of the honda. It looks angry.
@@omarmahmood5011 The type r wasn’t designed for drag racing. It’s happiest on a track. The golf r will be looking at the Civic’s tail lights by the end of the first corner. With a £7,000 difference in price, the Honda engine can be pushed north of 400 hp and all will be even. And the enjoyment of a perfect manual shifter can’t be communicated in numbers. Honda does many things right (excluding exterior design).
0:15 Everytime Mat says 420nm of torque.. I always quietly say ‘Nice.’
ayo stop commenting on the videos and render my damn footage
@@sinhashantanu629 funny how you assume I’m capable of tasks like those.
@@307skylake7 isn't that the igpu up to coffee lake I think my 8700k had it
In my 1999 WRX I raced againts a type R. I ripped it so hard off the line that his extra power is the only reason it was quicker than me. A brand new type R couldn't even get half a car length over on a 20 year old car.
Add some water on the road and the Civic is not going anywhere.
We have had both the VW and TypeR. We loved both but if we had to pick it would be the Honda every time. It is just so awesome on the twisties and has the big car feel. Not so much with the VW. The VW is fast no doubt but it does feel like a cramped car whereas the TypeR has a good race car feel.
Without seeing the video I knew that the TyreR was always going to be well left behind in a standing start but when the type R gets going it is just so fun to drive.
The horn test is also very good... Keep it up
Man that VW is quick!
Really want to see how this R goes against the M2 Comp
not the same class…. m240i would be a bit more comparable
@@neekjp
No, he was right. M2 would be about the same level.
@@skylined5534 M2 is 60k+… M240i is 55k loaded. in terms of performance the M240i is much closer to the R. M2 is much faster than the R.