Living with The 2023 Honda Civic Type R - Morning Commute (POV Binaural Audio)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ม.ค. 2023
- My Honda Civic Type R is incredibly fun but it's also my daily driver and commuter. This is what it's like to use the Type R as a civic.
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As someone who daily commutes on 495 and route 9, I can attest to the frustration of left lane campers. I had a lady going 69mph on the left lane so I gave her a little high beam flash to be polite and not swerve around her. She moved over but as soon as I passed she immediately started tailgating me at undisclosed speeds until my exit🙄
😂 it’s like come on lady! If you just went this speed to begin with we’d all be happy
Once Ive given them plenty of time to move over and realize they aren’t getting over I just fly around them like an idiot hoping they will get the hint. Mind you everyone behind me ends up doing the exact same thing. They think they own the road I guess or have absolutely zero situational awareness
She road raged you!
My experience 20+ years driving I found most inconsiderate/slow drivers in left lane (which is only used to PASS traffic) is New York, Connecticut, Delaware!!, and retired people during morning work commute. PA drivers got better but I think that because they use to live in NJ 😂
Do you drive a manual on Route 9? Debating if I want to commit to this myself lol!
I test drove one of these 2 years ago. It was a great driving experience. What really hit me was afterwards. I got out of the Type R and into my wife's car (2018 Odyssey) and for a couple moments I thought the car was literally broken. Compared with the tight, precise Type R, the minivan (which normally feels fine, and has pretty good handling for a minivan) felt so wobbly and vague that I thought I had a flat tire or something. That feeling went away after a while, but I'll never forget how incredibly refined that Type R Civiv was.
I still don’t know how your able to drive so smooth. Even when you wheelspan pulling out of a junction, you still made it look super smooth and more importantly super controlled. Great video as always.
appreciated! that's just in the throttle control..I was probably about 50% throttle and feathered back to reduce wheel spin and let the car catch up to the wheel speed.
@@TedwardDrives I’m a pretty new driver (been driving for 4 months) and I want to drive like you someday, is there any tips you could give me on driving smoother and cornering smoother?
@@quentinbarker7534 sit behind the wheel and drive only you can enhance your ability’s. Drive within your skill level!
@@quentinbarker7534 Watching Tedward, notice a few things. He shows respect for all other road users and pedestrians. He's patient and shows restraint. He's very observant, he sees things and anticipates what may happen ahead of time. He goes fast where it's safe, slow where it isn't, especially near houses, junctions etc. He doesn't rush things, everything is done with a margin for errors. Not just his errors, but those of others too. And he doesn't push to the absolute limits... he ALWAYS has the TIME and SPACE to adjust. If you run out of either, it won't end well. Smoothness and speed will eventually come as a result.
@@another3997 Amazing answer and what I try get across to all my non driver/new driver friends also.
A huge part is giving other space and expecting them to do stupid things so you have time/space to react. 7 years driving now and not one accident due to following the above!
Not a Honda person but the type R is a great alternative if you can't afford a BMW M3. I actually like this better then the previous type R. The previous type R was obnoxious. It looked like a overly modified car you would see in GTA 5 online. It would look cool in grand theft auto but not in real life.
Not even close. With the current markups at practically every dealership in the country on the Type R right now you might as well just go for an M3
bmw m3 has not been good for quite a while.
even the e46 weighs like 1.6 tonnes.
if you want a good bmw coupe go for the previous gen m2, even the one with m package or whatever its called is good.
or just get an honda s2k
@@kickbuttowskii I do like the F80 M3.
I've driven most of the BMW lineup and I have to say, I never get out of a new M3/4 and wish I was still driving. They're good but I don't want one. The last M3 I enjoyed was the e9x and I spent 6 years with mine.
Different strokes for different folks… I still prefer the more aggressive look of the 10th gen, this one looks a lot more mellow in comparison…very dull.
100% agree using the type r as a daily. Great package for having fun and using on a daily basis. Keep up the great content.
As someone that is considering this car and commutes to Boston (Route 3 to 95 South then onto the Pike), I greatly appreciate the real world experience and commentary versus another track video. Very helpful and informative. Thanks
I LOVE these pov vids from the Type R. Thanks for continuing to post them! P.S. - I also am an avid cruise control user.
As an amateur driver here in the Philippines, really learned a lot from you, @Tedward!!! From specs of cars down to expert driving and fuel economy. Got my confidence to drive in the highway from you Man, really appreciate your POV vlog specially your daily commute bidieos. Thank you!!!
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Great video, thanks for sharing! My OCD is probably talking here, but I truly appreciated that at 3:00 you signaled before you entered the turn lane. The fact that signals are to communicate to other drivers that you're about to do something seems lost on most drivers these days.
Thanks for your comments regarding the E92 M3. Before getting my 2019 FK8 Type R, I was considering a 2013 M3. Connecting rod bearings aside, my wife just didn’t like the idea of buying a six year old car so I got the Type R. I’m glad how you mentioned that you often had to live in the upper RPMs with the M3. I generally don’t like to do that as I don’t like to strain the engines of the car that I drive. I work remotely but up until I worked remote my Type R was my daily driver. It does have nice torque and I love how I don’t have to shift really on the highway and I just accelerate to pass cars. Love seeing the local roads in your videos.
I have a 6 speed elantra N also from Boston area and I love mine as much as you love your FL5. Enjoy!
Great video Tedward! Love the short fun gearing on the Type R!! Congratulations on your new car and almost 370K subs!!
I've always wanted a Type-R, ever since the FK8 first came out, but I've been hesitant because of the awful roads we have here in Boston. I've read a lot of stories about Type-Rs blowing a tire from relatively small pot holes because of the low profile tires. Seeing videos of your experience with owning one of these in Boston is super valuable for me.
Fk8 was particularly bad because of the 20in wheels. These 19s have a little extra sidewall
Thank you for the content on Type R vs. SI. My SI comes in next month, and I can't get enough Civic content in general as anticipation builds :) Keep up the great work!
You're going to love the Si. And depending on what you were driving before, it will likely feel very cheap to run due to the fuel economy
Mines also coming in February!!
Did you pay over MSRP?
@@ViolatioNVibratioN Price is MSRP plus the usual tax/title/registration. :)
Lucky. Didn’t get my Si for sticker lmao
Good to hear all the love for the civic R man I always give the thumb up when I see one.
1:00 that’s 10°C for everyone else. Definitely not “warm” but for New England in January, definitely warm.
The more Type R content the better. The lip on the glove box is still there!
I figured I'd leave it until people got angry and then I'd ceremoniously remove it on camera lol
@@TedwardDrivesI just tuck mine in the glove box because I couldn’t get myself to remove it lol
@@TedwardDrives don't remove it so the car still looks fresh :)
Hi big fan here love your pov drives especially with the new cars ❤
Just bought mine on Monday! What an amazing machine! I also understand the frustration of Boston driving. Went to college up around there about 20 some years ago. Take 90 and 495 on the way up to Maine every summer. Great videos though! Definitely helped with making my decision.
I just got my 22 Si in Platinum White Pearl last month, watching you upgrade to the Type R makes me excited to do the same down the road also!
Tedward, I'd totally recommend some RainX on your windshield which will make the rain literally bead right off and you'll never have to use your wipers, especially on the highway. I apply it to my car once every other month, super easy and affordable to do.
I'm in Calgary and I have a 2022 Civic Si It may not have the power of the Type R but it is a great car to commute with. It has heated seats and heated steering wheel which is great for our cold winters! I've considered the Type R but, I would gain more power but loose in fuel economy and other areas. Plus the 60 grand price tag is hard to accept.
What a great review, especially your comparison with your other cars. Excellent job
WOW YOUVE REIGNITED MY LOVE FOR THE 2023 type r
THANK YOU
ACC is the absolute best feature to have in a car, I get your issues with it but for passes I usually disengage it with applying a bit of throttle and making it „passive“ while I’m closing up to the car I want to pass.
Afterwards I just let go of the throttle and it re-engages, so no issue there
It’s a must have for me due to long commutes, makes a normal cruise control feel old and outdated.
When used well, it’s surely an aid.
But I get your opinion on it, not for everybody
I hated it at first. I didn’t know why the car wouldn’t maintain 75. But now i realize it senses when your too close to the person in front of you it slows down. It’s almost a speed limit setting rather than cruise control. My only pet peeve is that it accelerates too hard to get back to set speed. But whoever designed that feature. Hats off to them. It’s maybe a bit too sensitive to how close you are to the next car but otherwise it’s fantastic for longer drives.
I agree. Adaptive cruise control is very unappreciated and underrated with most people.
the car handles like a m3, so excited to watch these civic videos
It handles better than M3
Moved out of Boston 5 months ago and watching you drive the pike triggers my stress....
Hey man, I've been enjoying your videos over the past few years but I can't get over the fact that you're still doing all of this right where I live lmao
Never thought I'd see the day a Civic put out over 300HP stock. I remember my early 00's SI was like 130HIP. Times have really changed. Extremely limited availability of these models in Canada hence the reason I have yet to see one on Toronto roads. Great review despite being on winters and Boston roads.
It was a 160HP, not 130HP.
@@AnontheGOAT It was a 1.7L V-TEC that generated 127HP. Not sure where you're getting 160 from.
@@fantasyguru26 you said early 2000’s. I looked up how much power an ‘02 Civic Si made, and it’s 160hp out of its 2.0l engine. You should have been more specific and said 2000 or 2001 - cause ya it has the 1.7l with 127hpz
@@AnontheGOAT I should have been specific I had a 2001. Didn't realize the power got upped that much the next model year.
@@fantasyguru26 yup, no worries. You’re right tho, 300+ HP in a civic these days. What a time to be alive lol.
The way you're talking about the Rims make me so jealous. Just getting rims and tyres, without having to have conformity certificate for both, having to present the Car with both mounted to the Authority and get that inprinted on the cars registration, would be sooo comfortable.
(Also, of course, rims and tyres both cost double the normal price because that conformity certificate isnt cheap!)
Yea, you say that until you see the kind of shit you see on the roads here. Would be nice if we could have actual technical inspections for cars, here.
@@johnmuir8305 i take that over not being able to adjust camber on my Z because there are no camberarms with certificate and driving without it gets you caught, towed and fined 8k $ (as happened to me)
@@Malar1898 switzerland is really harsh for us enthusiasts :(
What country is that?
@@andrewb325 switzerland 😖 while technical checks are good to keep the streets safe, why is it illegal to put bigger brakes on my Car from Endless or Wilwood (good brands) just because theres no certificate 😂
Nice seeing those MA roads and highways once again. Civic Type R is a screamer for sure. One day I’m gonna have to learn to drive manual myself.
So funny to see the Newton Supercollider on here! I live a block away and have to go through it on my daily commute. It’s a living hell some days. Your comments were spot on haha
I like that name! We call it the circle of death
Love the videos per usual. I would be really interested in hearing your driving impressions of the new GR Corolla and comparing it to your new Type R.
Glad to see that wild oval interchange in Newton is still shit!
Also, I'm def running into glitches with CarPlay, too. I've discovered that Google Maps really has a tough time some days, like in some circumstances the map will just never load or my position on it will never update. Restarting the app will typically fix it, but it's annoying to do that every other drive. Waze also does weird shit. The most reliable app so far is Apple Maps :/
I have started getting onto the pike one ramp early to avoid it. getting a green light while cars coming from your left also have a green light makes no sense! and that's before you need to cross 4 lanes to get on the pike :D
Glad (not) to see that Honda CarPlay still has these issues. My 9th gen Accord head unit would constantly crash and have funky colour glitches. I also found that running Apple Maps with GMaps and Waze deleted worked best.
I daily commute here and it is literally the worst
Great content as usual. Keep em coming!
HEARD YOU LOUD AND clear bro fixed my posture
You and TheTopher are my parents at this point
Loved seeing all the tech and driver assist features. And I appreciate the comment about the seats. I feel the same way about my Elantra N seats. They’re amazing but definitely not what I’d consider commuter friendly. I wonder if you’d get more hard looks if you got one of the brighter colors? I love the Championship White, but so many cars are white nowadays it might be why you’re only getting looks from those who know what it is. Just a thought.
@@mharro88 I’m jealous of your seats for sure! If there was a way to get them here I’d do it in a heartbeat.
Unless you don't want looks but still a fast car :)
M3 owner here. I now drive 140 miles a day and I just couldn’t put that on my m3. But I think I’m sold on the type r for my daily driver. I need to have a fun car to drive but also want something sensible and reliable… hopefully the type arrr doesn’t disappoint
Gotta admire the urus in front of you at the start of the video, also great vid!
Good on ya'. You're someone with self control who enjoys driving in the real world. I was just thinking about a guy in a new Mustang who was doing about 70 in fairly thick 3 lane 30-35 mph traffic the other day. I was sooo hoping he would be seen by a cop.
that black wheel white car with snow tyres looks amazing, the dirt adds to the rallyness :)
edit: the low end acceleration is my favourite part about my 02 9-5 aero, I let my friend who owns a miata drive it recently and it was like polar opposite for him, it making the miatas peak power at 2.5k rpm is probably part of that, but peak torque being at 1.9k rpm and then slowly dropping off keeping the power band flat rather than linear helps a lot.
Something I find interesting is that the fuel economy on the saab is almost identical to that of the type r, but range is over 500 miles because the tank is 18.5 gallons
I came from a 2018 civic to a 2022 touring. When my cruise control starts to slow that’s when I pass, and there is no more ping pong in the LKAS system which is amazing!
That's one thing I love about turbos... you don't need to have the engine screaming at high RPMs to merge onto freeways. Had a turbo engine and I would love how effortlessly it would pick up speed. Currently enjoying the VTEC IN MY 2022 HONDA PILOT V6 LOL :D
Awesome content as per usual Tedward! So jealous of the FL5 type R! Here in the UK they are giving us like 400 per year, so they are like hens teeth! MSRP is 46k but going for 57 which is like $71k which is crazy. My question is, as a daily how much difference is there between a 2020/21 FK8 type r (if you have driven one)
You're still lucky they're doing 400 per year. Over here in dubai it's 100 cars per year
Lol them cars on the highway following behind you admiring the Type R 🔥
I could probably get better gas mileage if I could stay off the accelerator but it's so hard not to push this car cause it is a lot of fun to drive and my android auto has done some weird stuff also like saying I'm not connected but all of my auto from my phone is coming thru but it's minor stuff and I put about 2k miles on mine
I’m on the waiting list for a the fl5 type r, it seems like such an amazing machine.
What I wanted to ask you was, for around 45k-50k there’s also your mustang gt’s performance packs and ile ss camaros.
Since you’ve driven all of these, how does the type r compare to those big v8 cars around the same price?
When it comes to overall fun, build quality fit/finish, and performance
I think you know the answer lol
It all depends on the person tbh.
Id take a big V8 over this 2.0L any day. Rides might be nicer in the v8s as well.
Well the thing is.. I come from ss camaros, paxton supercharged s550 and my last car was a heads/cam c6z.. so obviously Those cars were way faster than this.
I just kinda got tired of having issues and stuff breaking etc.. I now just want something new, reliable and super fun to drive on the street and take to my local autocross event.
Those cars although fun to drive, I always felt like I couldn’t get the full experience/enjoyment out of them. You always feel like they’re going to break, spin out, you need a drag radial..
I want something that can handle and is just fun. And yes although I’ve had those cars in the past. I’m also a huge Japanese car lover..
I know there’s the gt darkhorse coming out for example, in the 50s I’m sure. So In my head I start to campare this type r to a car like that, and yes it has less power etc..
but for some reason I feel like the type r is just a way more special car than that mustang.. and Probly just funner to drive as well. But then again I haven’t driven a type r so what do I know.
Would be great to hear from y’all
Those dark horses look pretty sick for the money. I will be interested in looking at one and consider trading my fl5 for one but I doubt it.
This is a sleeper. The sportiness is so subtle (& works too).
the smooth engine revving up is golden
Ted, I've had that issue with mine as well. Couldn't pinpoint if it's bad signal, Waze bug, CarPlay bug, or the car... I've never had it living in a smaller city, but since moving to DC, the problem really got to me. Not sure if it's signal scrambling since there are way too many people.
Must be a waze bug, having the same issue in my supra using an iPhone 11
I’ve had the same Waze issue in the past three cars (including my current FL5 Si). The solution is always the same: pull the app up on your phone then shut it down (like swiping up on an iPhone). It will reset the Waze CarPlay overlay perfectly, every time. Seems to keep it fine for anywhere from a day to a month at a time doing this.
The stiff ride and horrendous road noise are deal breakers for me. Maybe if I was still in my 20's it wouldn't, but closing in on 40, there's no way I could deal with this.
I’m 39 and I don’t think it’s that bad. It’s probably queiter than my 8th gen SI. I’d own one in a heartbeat if I could get myself to spend that much on a depreciating hunk of metal
Id recommend waiting for the softer/oad oriented Integra Type S...
I do about 1k in commute in my 10th gen type R per week. Still to this day, I smile when I get behind the wheel. The car is AMAZING!
As owner of the 2023 civic type r fl5 all i can say is wow🎉❤
The scramble issue you have with Apple CarPlay happens in my FL1-even with my iPhone 14 Pro Max. It also had the same issue with Android Auto using my old Samsung Galaxy Note9, so I’m thinking it’s just poor software or hardware in the infotainments of these early model year 11th generation Civics.
I’m not sure if you get it too, but sometimes there’s startup lag when booting up CarPlay/AA and other times not. As you mentioned, it’ll resolve itself sometimes instantly or after a few minutes, though.
Can we get a night drive in the Type R? Want to see what it looks like with all the lights on at night.
I really love the design and I hat the Type-R represents!
appreciate your input and personality :)
I turned the music down as you lifts off from the parking. man, if I had a genie, Iwish I have this beast. Subscribed.
This thing looks a lot of fun to drive 🔥🔥
Its so cool! You can even take your hands off the steering wheel!
Love seeing all the local roads
I appreciate people using their blinkers anytime they are moving from one lane or street to another.
Morning commute made my morning
WOW THAT SOUND
The circle of death in Watertown! Takes me back to living in Oak Sq. Brighton. Great vid!
I like the review. Hoping I can have one for myself someday
I clicked on the video because I thought I recognized that area in the thumbnail. I grew up in Boston (5 miles from Fenway) but I haven’t lived there in 18 years since I left for the military. I’ve spent the last 14 years here in N.C. The picture in the thumbnail looked like it was over near Newton, MA but I am probably wrong but I definitely knew it was my home area!!
Keep it up!❤
Running and terrible seated posture gang stand up! Love your videos and glad you got the Type R. I've looked at the FK8 a few times but I work at a Toyota dealer so I'm hoping I can get myself back in a hot hatch with the GR in the spring (don't think the owner would have loved seeing me pull up in a Type R 😅). Great to see such an exciting batch of cars within the confines of regulations and at reasonable MSRPs from manufacturer, although it is a shame how it transpires beyond that. My Fiesta ST in my early 20s was the bar that every other car I've owned had to live up to as a daily driver and I'm really ecstatic to get behind the wheels of this last hurrah!
Been waiting for this video, awesome stuff. I think I'm going to go for the Si personally for the reliability and price point.
I kept looking at the Blue Levante, such a beauty !
Thanks for the honest, real world, no nonsense review. I've never owned a Honda product. While I've always been interested or even desired some CRXs, Civics, Accords, Preludes, and Integras / RSXs in the past, but I've never gotten around to owning one, due to one thing or another, including one real jerk of a salesperson at a local Honda dealership.
I'm not a huge fan of fancy digital gauges, but that setup that you have looks pretty decent enough. I don't care for infotainment systems. I feel that if your car needs an infotainment system, you own a boring car. I'm not into the Apple ecosystem (I will NEVER own an iPhone), so I don't know if that's going to a deal breaker or not. I'm not crazy about the exterior looks of the Civic, and I haven't been for a long while - not since 2006. The more plastic / fiberglass body cladding and carbon fiber you put on a car, the uglier it gets, in my opinion. Fun and practical has been the name of the game for the past 20 or so years for me.
It looks like you found a winner and when I first clicked on your video, I thought "I'll just havc a look to see what's new. Civics are just 'too Fast and too Furious' for me." Then you took your Civic on a drive and started talking about handling, fuel economy, and general livability. You definitely got my interest. I know what you mean about German traction control. Volkswagen's DSC will resist spinning wheels to the end by killing the throttle. I had written Civics off my list, but now, I'll have to take a more serious look at them. Thanks again for your video!
wow it's nice to see that youi can still get cars with a manual transmission.. i have 1 in my 2009 toyota yaris and basically it means that if the transmission ever fails, rebuilding it is easy & cheap.. in an automatic trans you usually have to ditch the car sometime after 10 years when the transmission blows.
Man. I can't wait to get one.
Congrats, man. Hope you have a lot of fun. One of the problems with driving performance cars in any day and age? The people who ignore the rules of the road. We have a 21 TLX with a great stereo. For the times you can't hustle, it makes up for the ensuing frustration.
I just watched your trip to Grand Canyon! Nice!!
Dude! Same terrible driving habits up here in Toronto with people using left/passing lanes incorrectly. I miss driving on European roads. Anyways. Excellent video! Subscribed!
Damn that looks fun dude.
Love the Type R stuff!
Those boston roads/traffic definitely are annoying, Im always on edge when Im there haha
Thank you for your videos on this car and all of your content which is fantastic. Could you please share your experience regarding FWD vs RWD, for daily driving and "fun" driving? Thanks.
I'm still so in love with my 9th gen 6 6 coupe accord
love your vids
You're living my dream
so weird to see you driving around where i regularly commute in newton! if i ever see u i will say hi😄my apple carplay glitches on my 2.0t accord as well. just randomly disconnects sometimes or just locks up and i have to replug. when i used to use an android phone i never had that issue. closing all my apps and restarting occasionally seems to help. also on 11 pro max
18 was the way to go on this. I have 18s on my 2020 and it’s so much different from driving with 20s which felt like a tank.
"Its 50 degrees. Its unseasonably warm in Massachusetts" meanwhile I'm absolutely dying here in Florida at 52 😭
Many of your reasons for the typeR describe exactly why driving a saab (aero model) in the days of old was so awesome but yet very underrated. Always thought Saab were the swedish Hondas …at least the 9000 and newer models
Such an amazing car. I have an 2017 FK8 Type R and it’s also the white color combination as your FL5 Type R. Mine only has 20k miles on so far because I wouldn’t dare drive it to work, I use the Accord for that. 👍
Great video so glad I came across this. Was looking at the SI because of the cost difference but the more I watch video's about the type R the more I feel I should just take the plunge. With 25K down the payment isn't hateful and 7 more payments and my house is paid off so maybe a gift to myself for that accomplishment. I do really like the Acura Type S but the cost for that I feel is really pushing it.
Great overview of your thoughts on the Type R! I too have the same tiling/blur issues with my 2020 Type R. I too have an iPhone 11 Pro… it’s random and I try unplugging or switching it on/off but it’s a little annoying… otherwise I love my Civic econobox 😁😁
Hello Ted. I just got word that my Type R will be arriving in about a month (Championship White). I was looking for something fun to drive on Cape Cod and your commute through Boston roads was very informative. I also drove an M3 (e46) for 17 years and loved it! I finally sold it to buy the last C7 Corvette with a manual transmission. But that car is a little too much for the roads on the Cape and so it sits in Franklin Tennessee where everything is bigger and the last time they had snow was almost never. I'm retired now so my use of the car in Massachusetts will be just for getting around and as you discovered, once you've driven something that handles really well and responds to your right foot, it's hard to go back to just plain vanilla. I looked at and test drove other driver's cars like a Miata (too small), JCW Mini (really fun but also a little darty and also pretty small), Golf GTI (the sensible choice except for the infotainment system) and finally the Acura Integra (great transmission and very comfortable, but a little underpowered much like your Civic Si and just so so handling). I think I'll be as happy with the Type R as you have been and at my age, I'm not really looking for anyone to notice me when I stop for gas or a cup of coffee. Thanks for sharing some very practical information about the Type R.
Beautiful, graceful car. Love it. I also laughed when you said LA is the worst in the world. LA is like an open country road compared to King's Highway (Ontario) 401 here in the GTA (Greater Toronto Area). LA ain't seen nothing yet.
i live for these videos
This is by far my favorite looking hot hatch but I can’t get over it being FWD
I recognized that on ramp to the masspike immediately
The equation “fun for buck” is becoming very interesting in the car world these days. I own a Fiesta ST in Europe (roughly USD 25k) as a weekend toy and the car is just phenomenal… I also own a Macan GTS as a family car, which is a very good car, but fun wise not better than the nimble Fiesta (4 times the price of the latter) I can use to attack any corner I may think of. Fun wise, Civic Type R might be the sweet spot in the car world given its capabilities and price (more or less 50% cheaper than an M3/RS4 in Europe but twice of a Fiesta). Bottom line is that you do not need to spend a huge amount of money to own a really fun and capable car, although sky is the limit and you can go up in the ladder and just buy a GT3…
That mpg is impressive. I've been averaging 34 to 35 mpg on my Insight hybrid for the last 50k miles.
That cabin looks like a nice place to be.
Pity you guys over there in the states a bit with all that speed limits driving such a great car. I had the predecessor and on the German Autobahn it was incredible fast, especially Autobahn curves the Type-R just eaten them up at incredible high speed. Such a joy.