@@zenixkiryu Actually they never had licence to run a rom site for Nintendo games. But Nintendo did overdue it. They could of approach them about it, to take down the site, of their licence property games. Yet they never warned them. It was a fat lawsuit without warning. Yes that is very fucked up that Nintendo did that. Yeah you'll get fans that overly dick ride Nintendo. I am a Nintendo fan, but I didn't agree what they did to the couple.
as bad as that movie was,and it was REALLY REALLY AWFUL!! LOL i,m still glad it came out because in my opinion ,that was the genesis of what would become Battle of Gods ,Ressurection F AND Dragonball Super,I feel like this motivated Akiri to bring it back because he didn,t want the World to think that was His actual creation or anything close to it,so ty Evolutions for that,,lol
Yup.. as horrible as it was, it was 1 of the reasons that we got super. Its nice that getting mad/being totaly disappointed, can be such a good motivator.
Heck yeah, even tho I was only around 7 y/o I remember my uncle teaching me about anime, specially DBZ and I remember seeing Goku SSJ 5 and thinking it was real, but that it was from a secret story after GT that only some people knew about, but I really wanted to see that "anime" or "cartoon" of DB but never found anything, until later on with years past I realized it was pure fan art :(
That honestly must've been an amazing feeling, just being an artist who loved Dragon Ball and was so good, that the CREATOR OF DRAGON BALL lets you be his right hand man. This just proves that literally ANYTHING is possible.
Yea but toyotaro went on to make super which is garbage. And ruins Aot of the series lord, characters and more. Ig that’s what happnes when you hire ppl that make fan fiction
Nothing wrong with being optimistic but not every company would do this. He put himself at risk by doing this. He's lucky they brought him aboard and didn't send him a C&D. Dude does thing with anything Nintendo or a lot of other Japanese companies you'll get sued.
Actually it’s not DBAF (alternative future) While in Japan Toyotaro who is also part of Dragon Ball Super now created a story that takes place after GT and people renamed it DBAF to give us a closure after GT when goku left with sheron to the dragon realms ITS PRETTY DOPE AND YOULL SEE WHERE THEY GOT THERE dragon ball super concept from Toyotaros manga is on TH-cam somewhere That’s cool that you gave this some clout man
Dragonball AF, that's a name I haven't heard in years. I remember my older cousins told me that Dragonball AF was real and was gonna happen back in the mid to late 00's when I was younger, right after GT ended. We would look up fan art of SSJ5 thinking it was real.
I remember my friend showing me Dragon ball af stuff when I was a kid, I was blown away, this was when computers were JUST starting to be in people's house holds regularly. I remember being so amazed at the time lol, so crazy to see you talking about it now.
If you haven't yet, look for the Dragon Ball Multiverse fan comic online. It's done by a bunch of different artists, and from what I remember, it's basically another tournament. But, it's done in a "what if" kind of scenario, where different universes were created from the different events that happened throughout DB-DBZ. In one universe, Goku never met Grandpa Gohan, and Krillin, Yamcha (who was an android in this universe), and Tien were the heroes. In another Majin Buu absorbed everyone. And in another, Nail fused with every Namekian ever and literally became the last one. Each universe has it's own side story, and it's really good the way it's presented. Give it a read when you can.
@@MrZangetsu468 What do you mean "the Way DBZ intended!?". The fuck does that mean!? DBZ doesn't intend anything considering how Ambiguous Toriyama is with his work!
Nathaniel Stewart maaan 2011 is late, I had forgot all about it by then. Picture me trawling random forums back in like 2006 barely even able to find a single actual page of AF lol
In my country, when there were rumors of Dragon Ball Af, people were still watching Dragon Ball Z. We were been told by older kids about the existence of two new series: Dragon Ball Gt and Dragon Ball Af. Nobody HAD internet back then (yeah, it already existed), so nobody could check. Eventually, Dragon Ball Z finished and the same Tv network aired Dragon Ball Gt the following day. This confirmed the rumor, so everyone assumed that Dragon Ball Af was going to be aired after Gt. In other words, everyone in my city thought Dragon Ball Af was real.
Man I've watched hundreds upon hundreds of your videos, yet this one inspired me. I'm an artist working on my own manga, I've followed Toriyama my entire life. My art has gotten to a point where I have my own style but I can mimic almost anything I see. I didn't think learning to draw other people's characters would matter but damn. I'm truly inspired. Thank you man.
Now we can blame GT for Super's existence Without GT, there would be no AF Without AF, there would be no Toyotaro, DBS manga and many things in DBS anime.
Wow! So dude been such a fan for years just been in an attic somewhere creating his own content the last 15 years and got his chance to work with the originator of the series? And helped prolong the franchise with newer storylines, newer villains, and newer powers?! Hats off to that guy and THANK YOOOOU! My soul has a spark of jubilence because of his consistency and persistence.
Great video geekdom! As someone who grew up with Dragon Ball around the late 90s, I appreciate you setting the record straight on all the facts. Keep them coming!
Geekdom101 I feel you should change the title of the video to “The History Of Dragonball Af” instead of the story, it sounds like you’re going over the plot
I honestly have to say, great great video bro. I was one of those who gravitated towards it when it was spreading online. Although the storyline was actually good ✌🏼🖖🍻🍻🍻🍻.
@@kyleat126 xicor is technically canon now with goku black and fused zamasu existing, instead of a kaioshin creating a baby with goku dna, it’s a literal kaioshin in training becoming goku
I remember the first time i saw the Super Saiyan 5 image. I was in an Eckerd(now known as Rite Aide so you know it was way back) pharmacy store. I picked up the magazine because i saw it had something about this dragonball af which i never heard about. I was amazed when i saw the picture. So amazed I ripped the page out of the magazine lol. I thought i had the most rarest and hidden dragonball knowledge. I told every one about it but no body believed me because i lost the image some how. This was back before alot of us even had computers so i couldn't show no one proof. Lol
I know this video is really old and I’m not sure if you’ll see this. But Tablos has a reputation in the Hispanic DB Community for being extremely toxic, raging out to anyone criticizing his work; reason being that he believes Toyotaro isn’t good enough to be working with Toriyama and that HE should’ve been the one hired for the DBS Manga(despite the fact he doesn’t speak a word of Japanese) He’s also known for using very edgy designs and storylines in his works, saying that Toyotaro doesn’t understand the “essence” of Dragon Ball(Such “essence” being extreme gore with blood and organs flying around) He’s been ridiculed by the Hispanic DB Community for his controversial takes and isn’t really taken seriously Crazy to see the parallels between the two “creators” of Dragon Ball AF, one flying onto stardom under Toriyama’s watch and the other being ridiculed by the community
@@jamescadet4450 it’s been common knowledge in the Hispanic DB Community for a few years now, seems like the English-Speaking community is barely learning about this though
Bugga D ohhh yeah, Xicor! Thats the guy wit the horns right? Damn, flashback. I remember searching so long to barely find the beginning of the AF manga like 10 yrs ago lol
I remember Dragon Ball AF story 9yrs ago. It's was a good too. A powerful Goddess was looking for someone to bare a child with. She meet Goku and has a son that's Automatically born as a supersaiyan. She made love to him in goku's dreams. Goku becomes evil later on and Vegeta, Trunks and Gohan do a three way fusion to defeat God Goku.
Ahh Dragon ball AF was around the time internet was new here. So I heard rumours of classmates saying there was super saiyen 5 in a new series called Dragon ball AF. The internet made the hype even bigger with all these secret images
Since there are so many fan mangas, I would find awesome if they made a fan manga like multiverse with dbs, af. This would be awesome, imagine black vs xicor, super goku and vegeta meeting their other conterparts and telling them about the gods and god ki, zamasu meeting the north kaioshin which in af survived and is evil
Except that the characters goals and motivations, designs and stories overall are completely different, the only fucking similarity is the kaioshin and "goku clone"
Lloyd Irving I meant in the way that the same characters from "different realities" could find each other but I don't want it to be a tournament like multiverse, it's like you said, I want more of a heroes type of thing
I have all Toyble's AF books. It's actually a really interesting story and I would love to see it adapted in some way. The 100 year gap timeline at the end of GT would be awesome to explore. SSJ4 Gohan is already making appearances in games like Heroes and Extreme Butoden, so why not? SSJ4 Gohan would be *amazing*
+The two kittens Entertainment inc ExperGamez (idk if thats his username) covers some stories every now and then and they're kinda solid, better than some stuff we see in DBS or saw in GT
WHO CAN FORGET AF. THE SUPER SAIYAN 5 PICTURE =P. It was so different in the early 2000's...people find it hard to understand. The internet was not as centralized as it was today and rumors were very hard to verify....especially if it came from a different country! Finding (and downloading) full DB/Z/GT episodes took such a long time...you had to scour the depths, and finding an accurate sub was like finding a diamond in the rough. The internet was a mysterious place full of wonders lmao...really!
Been dying to see you cover Dragon Ball AF in a video man. Would you ever do a video explaining your thoughts on Goku absorbing the dragon balls at the very end of GT?
i remember when i was younger no one believed me that dragon ball af was noncannon and kids would yell at me if i said that it didnt help i knew a kid with a bootleg super saiyan 5 figure and the fact it looked like a real product
Lol, terrible prediction. This channel is about the Dragonball universe. The show is ending, mediocre reviews and no real traction, only the hard on fanboys keep that dream alive. Tough times, lol
Thank you for the work you do. I only just discovered your channel but I've subscribed and am very pleased with your work. We look forward to future releases!
DBAF has many sagas: Xicor saga Kaarat saga Evil Goku Saga ova of SSJ5 Broly Angel Z saga Empty World saga Amason saga The 5 Levels of Hell Saga Xicor in Hell The Prohibited Power (SSJ10) Saga if goku gets erased from existence then it ends there, if not then: Demiyari Saga Tengu the demon saga The Infinite Saga The Takama Beast saga in another continuity, there is the Ize saga right after GT most of the information and fanifics however is in spanish or even portuguese, there is a video that reads it loquendo and is about 11 hours long
You know, Geekdom, as an artist myself, this video gave me a little hope for my future. Maybe I'll be my own Toriyama one day. I just have to help myself stop being depressed and impatient (oh look, I'm attention seeking lol) with the fact that I'm barely recognized by the world.
Funny thing is about dragon ball I've always liked but when I found your channel geekdom I found a new appreciation for it now I love dragon ball as one of my fave series so thanks for the hard work keep it up
I love the Form & Design so much I even bought a Figure of it which doesn't look bad at all. It's nicely colored, slightly detailed, & doesn't look off despite not being an actual series though.
THANK YOU. Finally an in depth exploration of DB AF on TH-cam! Not trying to throw shade on Josh at Dragon Ball Nation, I have much love for him and his content, but his video was missing a lot of key details. He didn't even differentiate between Toyo and Young Jiji's versions of AF.
Geekdom101 Yeah, it was a face cam vid basically covering everything you talked about but much briefer and kind of talking about everything in one big collective, as if all of DB AF was created by the same person, even if that's not what he intended.
My god.. I had no idea.. Dragon ball af was fan manga and fan art.. I thought it was canon but there must be a lot fan manga story of Dragon ball that we don't know about same with Dragon ball Absalon.. I wanna know more of Dragon ball AF and Dragon ball heroes..
This video made me smile. I remember when I found the same picture by surfing the internet when I was a kid. I was curious to know if a SSJ5 form existed and that DB AF fan art got me so excited thinking it was legit haha. Awesome video!
Hey I know this video is old and I doubt you’ll respond to this but have you or will you ever review dragon ball af entirely? If you didn’t know the Latin world actually continued the af story after xicor and I’m sure you’ve herd and seen google images off ssj6-10 and those sayian forms are in this dbaf the final villain is a fusion of freeza and cell who unlocked a timeless fusion and they forecly fused with majin buu, the power scaling is absurd the clashing fists destroy dimensions and universes
In France we had Dragon Ball back in 1991 and DBZ shortly after. In Italy it was the same. It's only in the Americas that it took off so late (late 90's - early 00's).
@@kirbyofthestarsfanReally? He did start it? 😔 what a shame, his artwork of Tablos is so legendary, it was so influential, it's crazy to hear he lost his damn mind
Would you like me to eventually do a STORY ANALYSIS on the AF Fan Manga?
Geekdom101 yes!
fantastic video btw!
Geekdom101 just do it!
Yep
Yes
Someone made a Dragon Ball fan manga gets hired. Someone made a Sonic fan game gets hired. Someone made a Nintendo fan game gets sued.
No wonder why sonic/DB have so much in common.
They've never sued anyone dumbass. Cease and desist yeah but never a lawsuit
@@TheReviewerBoy01 they literally sued an Arizona couple for 12 mil. $ and they got backlash for it because that's overkill af
@@zenixkiryu Actually they never had licence to run a rom site for Nintendo games. But Nintendo did overdue it. They could of approach them about it, to take down the site, of their licence property games. Yet they never warned them. It was a fat lawsuit without warning. Yes that is very fucked up that Nintendo did that. Yeah you'll get fans that overly dick ride Nintendo. I am a Nintendo fan, but I didn't agree what they did to the couple.
AM2R is a sad story dude
It just goes to show that expressing creativity in any industry is something that should be encouraged.
Preach
Try telling that to TH-cam these days.
I remember years ago when they announced Dragonball Evolution and I thought it was hoax. It really should have been ..
RIGHT!!
SoulSilver12 at least we got Battle Of Gods from it
as bad as that movie was,and it was REALLY REALLY AWFUL!! LOL i,m still glad it came out because in my opinion ,that was the genesis of what would become Battle of Gods ,Ressurection F AND Dragonball Super,I feel like this motivated Akiri to bring it back because he didn,t want the World to think that was His actual creation or anything close to it,so ty Evolutions for that,,lol
Yup.. as horrible as it was, it was 1 of the reasons that we got super. Its nice that getting mad/being totaly disappointed, can be such a good motivator.
totally agree, i think it was a little more then Anger,,how bout RAGE!! SHOCK and HORROR,,,LMAO
Omg I remember SSJ5 Goku going around when I was a kid and we all flipped out lol
Heck yeah, even tho I was only around 7 y/o I remember my uncle teaching me about anime, specially DBZ and I remember seeing Goku SSJ 5 and thinking it was real, but that it was from a secret story after GT that only some people knew about, but I really wanted to see that "anime" or "cartoon" of DB but never found anything, until later on with years past I realized it was pure fan art :(
I remember that aswell my childhood
Agree :) hype was real
Yesss I will look up hours of different pictures of yahoo. I printed them out. I have that picture
People in my fourth grade class passed that 🔴SSJ5 image around and said it was after GT 😅
That honestly must've been an amazing feeling, just being an artist who loved Dragon Ball and was so good, that the CREATOR OF DRAGON BALL lets you be his right hand man. This just proves that literally ANYTHING is possible.
Yea but toyotaro went on to make super which is garbage. And ruins Aot of the series lord, characters and more. Ig that’s what happnes when you hire ppl that make fan fiction
Nothing wrong with being optimistic but not every company would do this. He put himself at risk by doing this. He's lucky they brought him aboard and didn't send him a C&D.
Dude does thing with anything Nintendo or a lot of other Japanese companies you'll get sued.
@@0vern9K Why is it garbage? To me, at worst, it's just mid but not garbage.
@@0vern9Kcry and cope more kiddo. dbs is great coz it was created by the chosen successor of the original author.
@@zigmantasbajoraswrong kiddo. it is not mid. it is one of the best.
DBAF = *Dragon Ball: All Fake*
DBZ Macky Dragon Ball: April Fools
DBZ Macky lol XD
Actually it’s not
DBAF (alternative future)
While in Japan
Toyotaro who is also part of Dragon Ball Super now created a story that takes place after GT and people renamed it DBAF to give us a closure after GT when goku left with sheron to the dragon realms
ITS PRETTY DOPE AND YOULL SEE WHERE THEY GOT THERE dragon ball super concept from
Toyotaros manga is on TH-cam somewhere
That’s cool that you gave this some clout man
After Future, and the Toyotaro doujin is actually pretty good, to the point Super actually copied a lot of things from it.
Or ALL FUCKED
Toyotaro achieved a Dragon Ball fan’s dream. This was extremely interesting to learn about and oddly heart warming. Thanks for sharing this to us man!
Not gonna lie, when this popped up, my brain translated that as 'Dragon Ball As Fuck'
Yup.
That is what popped up in my brain!😂
LMAO , @ⰎⰋⰕⰜⰑⰓⰡⰁ225 , you killed me , i am legit laughing my ass off right now !!
Dragon Ball As Fucking good as it gets 👌
Cheers 🍻
Lmfao it actually means "after future" but still funny
I remember back in 2001 I have a print picture of Ssj5 goku front of my binder it look so epic
MugenDBZGTS ssj5 is not real
what are you talking about
MugenDBZGTS ssj 5 is not real
@@vegeta9585 and so... I had a bunch of fan made things from shows like Dragon Ball, and I didn't give a shit if it wasn't real in the series or not.
B0ssman312 Kakarot 🖕🏿🖕🏿🖕🏿🖕🏿 is stronger than any form
Dragonball AF, that's a name I haven't heard in years. I remember my older cousins told me that Dragonball AF was real and was gonna happen back in the mid to late 00's when I was younger, right after GT ended. We would look up fan art of SSJ5 thinking it was real.
Who else thought dragon ball af was real back then
Ultra INSTINCT me haha
Never me
Gogeta UI I only HALF believed it was true. Is that weird?
Lentro Zenol yeah. I kinda half knew it was fake but I didnt care cuz it looked so awesome lol
Gogeta UI there were several episodes and openly claimed fan story.
Just shows what can happen if build something with your passion!
I remember my friend showing me Dragon ball af stuff when I was a kid, I was blown away, this was when computers were JUST starting to be in people's house holds regularly. I remember being so amazed at the time lol, so crazy to see you talking about it now.
"They had a God form for Goku before Toriyama even thought of it." And it looks 1000 times cooler than Super Saiyan blue! Lmao
No it's too crazy-looking
@@vovabars1234 the outfit looks kinda goofy but the hair looks badass as hell
@@lionelleblanc agreed
And then there is a webcomig starting in 2008 that had the concept of a multiverse fighting tournament.
True af
If you haven't yet, look for the Dragon Ball Multiverse fan comic online. It's done by a bunch of different artists, and from what I remember, it's basically another tournament. But, it's done in a "what if" kind of scenario, where different universes were created from the different events that happened throughout DB-DBZ. In one universe, Goku never met Grandpa Gohan, and Krillin, Yamcha (who was an android in this universe), and Tien were the heroes. In another Majin Buu absorbed everyone. And in another, Nail fused with every Namekian ever and literally became the last one. Each universe has it's own side story, and it's really good the way it's presented. Give it a read when you can.
Vegetto is permanently fused, the way Dbz intended and the manga is better than Super’s ToP imho.
@@MrZangetsu468
What do you mean "the Way DBZ intended!?". The fuck does that mean!? DBZ doesn't intend anything considering how Ambiguous Toriyama is with his work!
@@danielramsey6141 they were under the impression that they were to stay fused, if you'll remember.
The best fan manga I've seen, by far
Imagine Super Kami Guru in Nail's mind shouting 'Nail' at him for all eternity.
I was literally wondering what happened to AF. I heard about it from TH-cam in like 2011 and was wondering when it would come out for years
Nathaniel Stewart maaan 2011 is late, I had forgot all about it by then. Picture me trawling random forums back in like 2006 barely even able to find a single actual page of AF lol
Man i first heard about af in 03 i think lol i feel old
same I heard about this from the early 2000s lmaoooo
Leo Velli lmao dude I used to rake through forums back in 03 for any information on this possible it was ridiculous
Why did this suddenly become a cock measuring contest about who knew first
Would've been funnier if it was called DRAGON BALL BS
VorteX Clan yasss
@RED Spark 4 words?
Dragon ball bull shit times 1million
Dragon Ball... Beyond Saiyan?
Before super?
Am I the only one who thought it was *Dragon Ball: AS FUCK*
Antpaok
Nope
Yup
no
Antpaok I never thought that but it occurred to me that it could be read like that once, and I haven’t been unable to unsee it since
No
In my country, when there were rumors of Dragon Ball Af, people were still watching Dragon Ball Z. We were been told by older kids about the existence of two new series: Dragon Ball Gt and Dragon Ball Af. Nobody HAD internet back then (yeah, it already existed), so nobody could check. Eventually, Dragon Ball Z finished and the same Tv network aired Dragon Ball Gt the following day. This confirmed the rumor, so everyone assumed that Dragon Ball Af was going to be aired after Gt.
In other words, everyone in my city thought Dragon Ball Af was real.
When the Dragon Ball In Depth on Gohan Blanco?
Spider-Zero we need Gohan Calvo
Rainbow Goku 🌈
I want to know when El Hermano will show up to fight Gohan Blanco as he is the only one who can fight him
Christian Martinez El Grande Padre vs Gohan Blanco
Man I've watched hundreds upon hundreds of your videos, yet this one inspired me. I'm an artist working on my own manga, I've followed Toriyama my entire life. My art has gotten to a point where I have my own style but I can mimic almost anything I see. I didn't think learning to draw other people's characters would matter but damn. I'm truly inspired. Thank you man.
Now we can blame GT for Super's existence
Without GT, there would be no AF
Without AF, there would be no Toyotaro, DBS manga and many things in DBS anime.
_i like gt :(_
i like Super :c
God dammit gt you were suppose stop super not create it
@MR. MISTER So you're telling me that ssj 20000 looks better?
@@johndan1760 Don't disrespect the title of God.
Wow! So dude been such a fan for years just been in an attic somewhere creating his own content the last 15 years and got his chance to work with the originator of the series? And helped prolong the franchise with newer storylines, newer villains, and newer powers?! Hats off to that guy and THANK YOOOOU! My soul has a spark of jubilence because of his consistency and persistence.
Hell yea! Inspiring
I love the dragon ball AF concept art and fan art.
Great video geekdom! As someone who grew up with Dragon Ball around the late 90s, I appreciate you setting the record straight on all the facts. Keep them coming!
Buckle up kids: History lesson
Expect more content like this when Super ends - GOING BACK and telling the UNKNOWN HISTORICAL TALES of Dragon Ball!
Man this was really cool to learn about TOYBLE . Shows you where real talent can get you 👍
And ya keep an coming Geekdom !
Geekdom101 I feel you should change the title of the video to “The History Of Dragonball Af” instead of the story, it sounds like you’re going over the plot
thats crazy...I had no idea thanks for the great video!
I honestly have to say, great great video bro. I was one of those who gravitated towards it when it was spreading online.
Although the storyline was actually good ✌🏼🖖🍻🍻🍻🍻.
Geekdom101 I saw ur face u wear glasses don't u
Xicor remains to be one of the most badass villains in the DB extended universe of non-canon.
@@kyleat126 xicor is technically canon now with goku black and fused zamasu existing, instead of a kaioshin creating a baby with goku dna, it’s a literal kaioshin in training becoming goku
What a baller story. Love the emphatic delivery; I was on your every word by the end. Kudos, mate. This is great stuff. Keep 'em coming
I remember the first time i saw the Super Saiyan 5 image. I was in an Eckerd(now known as Rite Aide so you know it was way back) pharmacy store. I picked up the magazine because i saw it had something about this dragonball af which i never heard about. I was amazed when i saw the picture. So amazed I ripped the page out of the magazine lol. I thought i had the most rarest and hidden dragonball knowledge. I told every one about it but no body believed me because i lost the image some how. This was back before alot of us even had computers so i couldn't show no one proof. Lol
funny every place I saw it back in the day listed it as super sayian level 6.
If it is true that Goku's Ultra Instinct final form is him with silver hair, do you think it would be inspired by Toblos' "super saiyan 5" art?
Maybe. Though it's more likely super sayian 5 inspired the super sayian blue form ( usually people made super sayian 5 gogetta with bright blue hair).
kadin imdad --1
Nope its based of Gohan Blanco. Latin American EdgeLord Gohan.
I mean there's only so many hair colors you can give gokus forms so it was probably the one that fit best
I know this video is really old and I’m not sure if you’ll see this. But Tablos has a reputation in the Hispanic DB Community for being extremely toxic, raging out to anyone criticizing his work; reason being that he believes Toyotaro isn’t good enough to be working with Toriyama and that HE should’ve been the one hired for the DBS Manga(despite the fact he doesn’t speak a word of Japanese)
He’s also known for using very edgy designs and storylines in his works, saying that Toyotaro doesn’t understand the “essence” of Dragon Ball(Such “essence” being extreme gore with blood and organs flying around)
He’s been ridiculed by the Hispanic DB Community for his controversial takes and isn’t really taken seriously
Crazy to see the parallels between the two “creators” of Dragon Ball AF, one flying onto stardom under Toriyama’s watch and the other being ridiculed by the community
Seeing this now, what your saying about Tablos here is basically flying over Twitter
@@jamescadet4450 it’s been common knowledge in the Hispanic DB Community for a few years now, seems like the English-Speaking community is barely learning about this though
E S E N C I A
I'm pissed off that they never finished the manga of Xicor
Bugga D ohhh yeah, Xicor! Thats the guy wit the horns right? Damn, flashback. I remember searching so long to barely find the beginning of the AF manga like 10 yrs ago lol
I remember Dragon Ball AF story 9yrs ago.
It's was a good too.
A powerful Goddess was looking for someone to bare a child with.
She meet Goku and has a son that's Automatically born as a supersaiyan.
She made love to him in goku's dreams.
Goku becomes evil later on and Vegeta, Trunks and Gohan do a three way fusion to defeat God Goku.
Hmm...Vetrunkhan? Gotrunketa? Trunketahan?
This is the story I remember.
@@FLEX0NTV Vegohunks
@@denisl2760 hmmm, nice...nice. I couldn't think of that one, but that's a tough ass name.
Wasnt it about a kai who stole gokus dna and used it with her own to create her kai-saiyan hybrid child known as xicor?
Only long time DB fans would know what this is.
find it suprising he didn't mention xicor once
bugboy1014 same
4 The ones that became db fans not knowing about its old history.
I always assumed af meaned advanced fighters
Still VENUS hell yeah
Ahh Dragon ball AF was around the time internet was new here. So I heard rumours of classmates saying there was super saiyen 5 in a new series called Dragon ball AF. The internet made the hype even bigger with all these secret images
i still remember some kids would sell color prints. I had one on my binder.
It's amazing how fans ressurected Dragon Ball and how Xicor almost now is cannon through Black Goku
Since there are so many fan mangas, I would find awesome if they made a fan manga like multiverse with dbs, af. This would be awesome, imagine black vs xicor, super goku and vegeta meeting their other conterparts and telling them about the gods and god ki, zamasu meeting the north kaioshin which in af survived and is evil
Except that the characters goals and motivations, designs and stories overall are completely different, the only fucking similarity is the kaioshin and "goku clone"
I'm not arguing this, I mean even though black was inspired by xicor the two are different in all other ways
Lloyd Irving I meant in the way that the same characters from "different realities" could find each other but I don't want it to be a tournament like multiverse, it's like you said, I want more of a heroes type of thing
NocturneArchunterKellianth I doubt that since there is the whole Kaioshin part involved
i honestly feel like we wouldnt have all of these many db fan animations/comics without this af.
even legend
Just wanted to say, I've watched tons of your videos and this was one of my favorites. Thanks Geekdom, keep them coming please!
Damn Man
This Guy Is Legend
Kinda Proves Ur Love For An Anime Gets You Hired To Work For & With Them
Amazing video! Glad we’ve got you for when Super ends brah!
Just goes to show that enough love towards something can lead to greatness
I have all Toyble's AF books. It's actually a really interesting story and I would love to see it adapted in some way. The 100 year gap timeline at the end of GT would be awesome to explore. SSJ4 Gohan is already making appearances in games like Heroes and Extreme Butoden, so why not? SSJ4 Gohan would be *amazing*
4 years later and we have final gohan
Yeah the manga rn could use some of the af ideas
I've actually been reading Young Jijii's version recently. It's great!
I used to read all of the af story’s back in the day 😂
forlife forlife were they any good?
+The two kittens Entertainment inc
ExperGamez (idk if thats his username) covers some stories every now and then and they're kinda solid, better than some stuff we see in DBS or saw in GT
That japanese girl at the beginning talks too loud , you should hire another one haha.
Just needs lower volume, can blow your ears out lol
WHO CAN FORGET AF. THE SUPER SAIYAN 5 PICTURE =P. It was so different in the early 2000's...people find it hard to understand. The internet was not as centralized as it was today and rumors were very hard to verify....especially if it came from a different country! Finding (and downloading) full DB/Z/GT episodes took such a long time...you had to scour the depths, and finding an accurate sub was like finding a diamond in the rough. The internet was a mysterious place full of wonders lmao...really!
Poor Toblos should get some credit for this.
the spanish fan was just having some fun with fanart ideas and this whole thing happened lmao
Been dying to see you cover Dragon Ball AF in a video man. Would you ever do a video explaining your thoughts on Goku absorbing the dragon balls at the very end of GT?
Watch my video on The Dragon Ball's Dragon.
Geekdom101 yeah I can't find it either.
When your driving to Pennsylvania for vacation and you see Geekdom has a new video😁
Weird seeing someone with the same surname..
Austin Markowski K
Don't watch and drive, bro.
Austin Markowski your going to Hershey park aren’t you? Or the Philadelphia zoo?
Bacon in a sandwich neither the camal back resort
That's really cool how things came to full circle.
Love these types of videos. Keep up the great work Geekdom!
I love how SSJ5 looks like SSJ3 but with silver hair, looks so awesome!
i remember when i was younger no one believed me that dragon ball af was noncannon and kids would yell at me if i said that it didnt help i knew a kid with a bootleg super saiyan 5 figure and the fact it looked like a real product
I think young jiijii version of AF was way better
Further Evolution jjjjijiijijiijjjiiiiijiiiiiiiiijjii
It's pretty boring. Toyo's version has a really cool story
His art style kinda sucks now, i get that its trying to imitate the old artstyle of dragon ball, but the way its developed looks weird now.
I like his art better too
Agree
Geekdom will have like 1M subscribers in about a year keep up the good work Geekdom I enjoy your videos I love it
Hes actully not gaining subs very fast at all
Lol, terrible prediction. This channel is about the Dragonball universe.
The show is ending, mediocre reviews and no real traction, only the hard on fanboys keep that dream alive.
Tough times, lol
I swear EVERY time it sounds like he's saying "Dragon Ball: In Death"
and now in 2024, toyotaro has been passed on the torch. RIP Toriyama
Been waiting for this since you announced it!
Excellent video. I would know because I have watched the full 11 minute video before even 5 minutes upload time. Subarashii.
Xicor Geekdom please make a video about dragonball multiverse and how it may have influenced dragonball super
This video is Dragon Ball AF.
Wait Xicor Aren't You From AF How The Eff Did You Stumble Upon TH-cam
Future Gohan I used the time ring ningen.
this whole thing is crazy! I'm going to have to go back and look at some of Toyotaros AF work!
Lloyd Irving Is that "Dragon Ball Zero?" I've seen that floating around but didn't know he did that. I'll be sure to check that out too. thanks
Lloyd Irving it's pretty cool but it doesn't fit into the canon of DB
AMAZING VIDEO!!!!! it just shows how passion and a healthy fan community can bring up great proyects.
Thank you for the work you do. I only just discovered your channel but I've subscribed and am very pleased with your work. We look forward to future releases!
Super Saiyan 5 is my favorite fan transformation
I like super saiyan 8
@KING DJ me to
I like super saiyan 11
Its lame af.
They really should have kept using the Dragonball fighting and other sound tracks from z, its so nostalgic when I hear it
EntonBlazing super's music is literally the best thing about it.
Anon Anonsmith your kidding right? the beat thing aboit super is its story line and the fights, tf u mean
Yeah especially Frieza saga music
Been waiting for this video
DBAF has many sagas:
Xicor saga
Kaarat saga
Evil Goku Saga
ova of SSJ5 Broly
Angel Z saga
Empty World saga
Amason saga
The 5 Levels of Hell Saga
Xicor in Hell
The Prohibited Power (SSJ10) Saga
if goku gets erased from existence then it ends there, if not then:
Demiyari Saga
Tengu the demon saga
The Infinite Saga
The Takama Beast saga
in another continuity, there is the Ize saga right after GT
most of the information and fanifics however is in spanish or even portuguese, there is a video that reads it loquendo and is about 11 hours long
what about zeel can you tell more about him
General Tablos is now controlling your mind Geekdom.
SEVEN WORDS:
E-S-S-E-N-C-E
I was looking for these comments, my fellas.
Come on, Vegeta, feel the essence!!!
@@guidoivanmendez2354 Vegeta: AAAAH! Kakarot, Tablos is controlling my mind. AAAAAAAH!!! IT'S TOO MUCH ESSENCEEEEE!
So glad you broke this down, good job dude 👍
Super T nahh hes just doing for views=money
Hey another Soto fan
Gohan Son 😎
Damien Montana what's wrong with that?
You know, Geekdom, as an artist myself, this video gave me a little hope for my future. Maybe I'll be my own Toriyama one day. I just have to help myself stop being depressed and impatient (oh look, I'm attention seeking lol) with the fact that I'm barely recognized by the world.
i believe in you
Funny thing is about dragon ball I've always liked but when I found your channel geekdom I found a new appreciation for it now I love dragon ball as one of my fave series so thanks for the hard work keep it up
THANKS SO MUCH!
Geekdom101 no problem
As Tablos would say, this video needs more... essence
I always wondered about this. Thanks for the video. That grey goku has been in the back of my mind for almost 20 years
super saiyan 5 looks badass......its the best looking form
I Feel As If There Should Be A Deadman Form Which Pays Homage To Undertaker's 1994 Look With The Purple Gloves
I love the Form & Design so much I even bought a Figure of it which doesn't look bad at all. It's nicely colored, slightly detailed, & doesn't look off despite not being an actual series though.
Kinshuk Agarwal all 5 is the look for ssj4 with ssj3 hair
STIZZ yeah but it takes more effort to design and draw
Great video man, Thankyou for putting these videos out on the interweb😉
Love you, and your videos😍
I appreciate you geekdom. Thank you for another very informative and interesting video.
I want a dragon ball af tv series
No
I mean if they can make an anime for db heroes than why not af?
Jiten because that’s a literally just a promotional anime
The one who wrote the manga was toyotaro?
Yeah, but the og who drew SSJ5 and AF was David in 1998
Super: hey can I copy your form?
AF: yeah make sure you change a little bit so the viewers can't tell
And that's how MUI became a thing
THANK YOU. Finally an in depth exploration of DB AF on TH-cam! Not trying to throw shade on Josh at Dragon Ball Nation, I have much love for him and his content, but his video was missing a lot of key details. He didn't even differentiate between Toyo and Young Jiji's versions of AF.
I NEVER KNEW HE DID IT!
Geekdom101
Yeah, it was a face cam vid basically covering everything you talked about but much briefer and kind of talking about everything in one big collective, as if all of DB AF was created by the same person, even if that's not what he intended.
My god.. I had no idea.. Dragon ball af was fan manga and fan art.. I thought it was canon but there must be a lot fan manga story of Dragon ball that we don't know about same with Dragon ball Absalon.. I wanna know more of Dragon ball AF and Dragon ball heroes..
And now he's the main person behind dragon ball.
And now with Akira’s passing… we all agree Toyotaro is indeed the true successor.
Big D, you always make amazing videos and shut down false claims. Thank you for spreading truth
love you baby!
UI Asspull mmm ;p
Oh shit
Hope everyone had a great evening
I can remember hearing some of this stuff growing up
You have no idea how much anticipation I've had for this video. Thank you.
This video made me smile. I remember when I found the same picture by surfing the internet when I was a kid. I was curious to know if a SSJ5 form existed and that DB AF fan art got me so excited thinking it was legit haha. Awesome video!
Ssj5 best looking transformation ever Come at me....
No need to bait mate. Still think UI is the best *looking* form we've seen.
Just need to add a cool aura and it could be the best.
Xem nah UI is too basic and boring, ssj5 looks way better
real_g 30 basic isn't bad ssj5 is to busy
its doing too much i like ssj2 , ssj4 and kaioken
Why am I seeing people commenting "good or awesome video" that is 11 minutes which has been up for only a couple of seconds.
Also maybe because he's been pushing the video and his fans are excited to watch the video
Yeah really. It hasn't even been 5 minutes since he uploaded this video.
Chino Torres so they can get first comment and not sound like thats what they wanted lmao
Sometimes TH-camrs Add Videos To Ah Playlist Before Uploading And If You Have That Particular Playlist's Notification On You Can Watch It Early
I mean his in depths are always good
Hey I know this video is old and I doubt you’ll respond to this but have you or will you ever review dragon ball af entirely? If you didn’t know the Latin world actually continued the af story after xicor and I’m sure you’ve herd and seen google images off ssj6-10 and those sayian forms are in this dbaf the final villain is a fusion of freeza and cell who unlocked a timeless fusion and they forecly fused with majin buu, the power scaling is absurd the clashing fists destroy dimensions and universes
In France we had Dragon Ball back in 1991 and DBZ shortly after. In Italy it was the same. It's only in the Americas that it took off so late (late 90's - early 00's).
Oh my goodness, nowadays people hate the AF artist 😔
Yeah
To be fair, he was the one that threw the stones first at the fandom (you have no idea how bigoted he got)
@@kirbyofthestarsfanReally? He did start it? 😔 what a shame, his artwork of Tablos is so legendary, it was so influential, it's crazy to hear he lost his damn mind
7 palabras: E S E N C I A
Am I the only one reading this like " Dragon Ball As Fuck"
Cool video bro I never heard of DRAGONBALL AF until now 🙌🏾
REZ QUARTERMAN SERIOUSLY???!!!
MR Invincible yea after GT I thought it was over. Sadly to say I stop following DB UNTIL BATTLE OF GODS.
REZ QUARTERMAN yeah me too
Dragon Ball AF really makes me nostalgic. Looking online in the early 2000s and everyone talking about the Super Saiyan 5
I remember those early 2000s rumors about Dragon Ball AF. Sadly it was just rumors. For a long time I thought it was real.
Nicely done with the intro man
Liem Ung stfu