The Saiyan War FULL STORY - Dragon Ball In Depth

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  • The ENTIRE History of the Saiyan War in Dragon Ball Z and Dragon Ball GT as discussed in the Dragon Ball GT Perfect Files here on Dragon Ball In Depth 53. We discuss the History of the Saiyans vs Tuffles aka Saiyans vs Tsufurians and how Baby ties into the story and How King Vegeta Ruled!
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  • @DanielGomez-ln2dd
    @DanielGomez-ln2dd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +958

    Aye bro, I’m listening to this on my way to my wedding. Got to find a way to calm myself down!

    • @limage84
      @limage84 4 ปีที่แล้ว +88

      Congratz bro!

    • @duugenheim21
      @duugenheim21 4 ปีที่แล้ว +140

      I see you avoided the friend zone

    • @rawnorth7882
      @rawnorth7882 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Congratulations!

    • @blackshogun272
      @blackshogun272 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      I see you've got the achievement "Eternal Mate"...
      *Looks at 1,000 other life achievements not done*

    • @moisesmartinezmorales5885
      @moisesmartinezmorales5885 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Contrats dude

  • @someguydownthestreet206
    @someguydownthestreet206 4 ปีที่แล้ว +763

    As poorly executed as GT was, you gotta admit that the Baby arc was a brilliant idea.

    • @exoplanet4905
      @exoplanet4905 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      True that

    • @applebee6455
      @applebee6455 4 ปีที่แล้ว +121

      +Some Guy Down the Street
      ALL of GT was a brilliant idea. Travelling through space, Consequences for using the Dragonballs, Bring back fallen warriors of the past.
      The creators just didn't know how to pull it off like DB or DBZ did.

    • @kaptainkibiroproductions45
      @kaptainkibiroproductions45 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Apple Bee GT is still even now chock full of potential
      I think because it was so bad it left the door open for so many fan theories or returns for the ideas they had

    • @thomashoughton5270
      @thomashoughton5270 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Oh it was, so was the concept of the shadow dragons arc, GT was just executed horribly

    • @applebee6455
      @applebee6455 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@kaptainkibiroproductions45 So true. When Goku, Trunk and Pan go off into space for a year. That could have easily been a MASSIVE saga. The same way Luffy travels to different lands in One Piece, Goku & Co could have done the same but for different planets. GT's potential was/is HUGE.

  • @NarutoExplained
    @NarutoExplained 4 ปีที่แล้ว +137

    The concept of Baby and the Tsufurian lore is something I hope Dragon Ball Super revisits, because it has more potential than we saw in GT

    • @JKMlive
      @JKMlive 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Might be a universe 6 thing.

    • @evenhartwick4422
      @evenhartwick4422 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      the Tsufurian stuff is pretty much the reason i like and defend that show. The Baby saga is a genuinely good arc with a lot of good ideas in it.

    • @Vathananable
      @Vathananable 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I thought Granola is going to take that place....

    • @mutasimmuhammad9672
      @mutasimmuhammad9672 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Vathananable he is watch and see

  • @al-geezynip-gang3142
    @al-geezynip-gang3142 4 ปีที่แล้ว +241

    I want an entire Movie On The Complete History Of This Saiyen&Tuffle War

    • @chaseviking5096
      @chaseviking5096 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So you want another entire non cannon movie?

    • @rcash3625
      @rcash3625 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Would be fire

    • @LuciusYano
      @LuciusYano 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      never make it cause no one would watch. we literally dont know even a single saiyan from that time yet alone a truffle to be the protagonist

    • @biology9810
      @biology9810 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LuciusYano bro have you never heard of new characters what's the point of android 13 cus they made new Androids your comment is so stupid

    • @biology9810
      @biology9810 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@chaseviking5096 even if it was non cannon it would still be fire but considering everything in this video is true than the hypothetical movie would pronibe too

  • @alcatrazvongola
    @alcatrazvongola 4 ปีที่แล้ว +234

    Dragonball has a ton of interesting lore that should get more fleshed out. It's a shame that Toriyama keeps reconning stuff or has forgotten most of it.

    • @TheCWoodman
      @TheCWoodman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Talking if recons, he says that Toriyama reconned the scouters being made by the ruffles by saying it was friezas tech, but this I would say is more of an extension to the story, he says himself that In 730 is when the saiyans win their war and the ruffles are only ever shown with the gun scouters, and then he says in 731 king vegeta meets frieza, this makes sense because in the broly movie, Freiza shows off new scouters and says they are better than the old ones, and the saiyans are shown using hand scouters later on.

    • @azureangel8217
      @azureangel8217 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Mike Noir same

    • @BONEKRUSHER408
      @BONEKRUSHER408 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      AT is a hack and doesn't really give a shit about DB, the only reason he came back to shit on Dragonball was because nobody was buying the other garbage he was putting out.

    • @zp944
      @zp944 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Money will do that to you

    • @coddyface1
      @coddyface1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@BONEKRUSHER408ya I watched a lot of DB and man you can tell they are make shit up as they go

  • @DBZMacky
    @DBZMacky 4 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    So King Vegeta ruled from age 730 to 731 before Freeza showed up and made him his lap dog?
    Damn, that's sad. To work so hard for so little.

    • @spambamkeija634
      @spambamkeija634 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      King Vegeta is Vegeta the third, so he's actually ruled for much longer.

    • @spambamkeija634
      @spambamkeija634 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @FaZe Gohan
      No it’s not. Freeza called Prince Vegeta (our Vegeta) Vegeta the fourth, so his father, who exiled Broly, is King Vegeta the third, meaning that he ruled much longer than just a year.

    • @spambamkeija634
      @spambamkeija634 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @FaZe Gohan
      Freeza did refer to vegeta as the fourth tho.

    • @spambamkeija634
      @spambamkeija634 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But i see what u sayin

    • @spambamkeija634
      @spambamkeija634 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @FaZe Gohan
      Which is canon

  • @ericksantos4555
    @ericksantos4555 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I really appreciate these videos. Dragon Ball was such a big part of my childhood and I still enjoy it to this day. I love being able to come home after whatever kind of day and jump right back into and also learn something I didn't know before.

    • @masknzgamer
      @masknzgamer 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Play dokkan for more nostalgia

  • @purevessel4506
    @purevessel4506 4 ปีที่แล้ว +114

    I would love to see a movie on Yamoshi or an origin on the Saiyans and how they came to be.

  • @Maikigai
    @Maikigai 4 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    Someone should totally use the “pendulum room” to view more a Saiyan history like how Yamcha, Tien, Krillin and Chiautzu did.

    • @rawnorth7882
      @rawnorth7882 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Yeah that was bad ass seeing them fight sayains from 100 years ago

    • @1014p
      @1014p 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That would be cool, now any of them would swat away those saiyans.

    • @guardiandown7984
      @guardiandown7984 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Mikeyboy86 True they should do that

    • @dark-xh7fs
      @dark-xh7fs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @『 R e A W A K E N E D 』 for now. They may always make it a part of plot.

    • @dark-xh7fs
      @dark-xh7fs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @『 R e A W A K E N E D 』 addition? Like broly and bardock or jaco? My point is if they want they can always use that idea.

  • @tobertcordless2491
    @tobertcordless2491 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    So many similarities between the Saiyans and the Mandalorians, it's crazy lol
    Both are warrior races, split up into royal class systems, both waged war against another race for a planet, both conquered planets and solar systems, and now the new canon for both draw inspiration from the original source story.

    • @user-yh6tt2nu4p
      @user-yh6tt2nu4p 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Toriyama is a huge fan of star wars

  • @Nagatem
    @Nagatem 4 ปีที่แล้ว +330

    The saiyan’s really reaped what they sowed
    The rotten veggies

    • @UnexpectedWonder
      @UnexpectedWonder 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Pretty much...

    • @dewismith3059
      @dewismith3059 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      In Resurrection F, Whis said that Beerus authorized planet vegeta's destruction.

    • @orangeyellow9695
      @orangeyellow9695 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Rotten Saveggies

    • @jordancox8294
      @jordancox8294 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Mykel Hardin lol

    • @thump2319
      @thump2319 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lmao

  • @RIPMUZICPRODUCTIONS
    @RIPMUZICPRODUCTIONS 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Feel like I'm working on my masters in dragon Ball watching this 😁

  • @mightybryan1033
    @mightybryan1033 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Dragon ball needs a whole Movie based on the Full History of the Saiyans up until planet Vegetas destruction

    • @scoobysnax3813
      @scoobysnax3813 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I could be an entire series!!

    • @nigelholland1714
      @nigelholland1714 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Meaning planet Sadala with the civil war and them moving to plant

    • @mightybryan1033
      @mightybryan1033 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@nigelholland1714 bingo. Cause we still needa see the OG legendary Super Saiyan & King Vegeta I,II

    • @the_real_idoit8166
      @the_real_idoit8166 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@scoobysnax3813 legit if goku and Vegeta ever die for good they could literally make a series about just the saiyans and their past

  • @ssjmatthew1286
    @ssjmatthew1286 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Saiyan lore is some of my favorite stuff in Dragon Ball. Thoroughly enjoyed this video. Keep up the great work.

  • @applebee6455
    @applebee6455 4 ปีที่แล้ว +164

    Dragonball Franchise is *_MY_* Star Wars. Someone once said _"that's stupid"_ . How can it be when BOTH are works of fiction!?

    • @joshshrum2764
      @joshshrum2764 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Apple Bee I swear some people don’t respect anime at all but I don’t think it’s stupid because I understand how it could be.

    • @specialnewb9821
      @specialnewb9821 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      It's like they forget Star Wars is targeted to basically the same demographic dragonball is.

    • @UnexpectedWonder
      @UnexpectedWonder 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well said. I'm a Fan of both, and I totally get where you're coming from.

    • @UnexpectedWonder
      @UnexpectedWonder 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@specialnewb9821 They totally do. It's just complete Bias and Ignorance.

    • @knightstudio9985
      @knightstudio9985 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fan both Star wars and Db series

  • @SamuraiCypher
    @SamuraiCypher 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Yes, man. This is what OG followers been waiting for! Preciate the hard work as usual, Danny. Take it easy and get some rest. 🖤

  • @Perc_angle30
    @Perc_angle30 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Toriyama: *retcon
    His fan base: HES A GODDAMN SHAKESPEARE

  • @tajol2122
    @tajol2122 4 ปีที่แล้ว +113

    Enjoy the history but wish there was a movie or a special manga that gives us a true back story

    • @DeloFFF
      @DeloFFF 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Let us be patient . It’s coming 😅

    • @higherground711
      @higherground711 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It's quite possible that there will be. I've said it over and over. Dragon Ball's a gravy train. People all over the world can't get enough of it. In the future we might even see official Dragon Ball universe spinoffs. I could be wrong, but I believe some spinoffs would be very popular. They could do what TH-camrs and others have been doing for years now. They could shift the focus away from the Saiyans and explore the rest of the Dragon Ball universe. If I were them I would. It would be very lucrative 💲 and there are endless possibilities. Everybody wins. 👍😁

    • @BONEKRUSHER408
      @BONEKRUSHER408 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Would have been dope decades ago but I hope it never happens, super has shit on the lore enough.

    • @mightybryan1033
      @mightybryan1033 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And we need more on Beerus,Whis said he told Frieza to destroy Planet Vegeta

    • @chaseviking5096
      @chaseviking5096 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BONEKRUSHER408 super did a hell of a lot better than that garbage called GT. GT was so bad that it's been ripped of it's title as cannon. Super stayed truer to the DB series then GT ever did.

  • @LowellLucasJr.
    @LowellLucasJr. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Imagine if Cooler got the aid of the Suphorians( or Tuffles) much like Frieza got the Saiyans! How awesome would that be in a future storyline?!

  • @italianduded1161
    @italianduded1161 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    okay Vegeta's old anime mustaches are better then the Broly movie ones XD

  • @danielmedjedovic7068
    @danielmedjedovic7068 4 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    If they reboot GT, they should make a whole arc of the saiyan-tuffle war.

  • @warwick802
    @warwick802 4 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    I hope that someday, Star Wars and DBS make a mini series about their far pasts.

    • @RandomGuy-zl5sp
      @RandomGuy-zl5sp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Kev that would be so cool. The Mandalorian is a great show. Though I would love to see an arc similar to the mandalorian after Frieza and King Cold get killed by Trunks. It would be like the fall of the Empire.

    • @nightwalker174
      @nightwalker174 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Kotor, The Old Republic

    • @UnexpectedWonder
      @UnexpectedWonder 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Exactly. Full-fledged Series though. The Moro Arc is even playin' on that in Dragonball Super.

    • @hrthrhs
      @hrthrhs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RandomGuy-zl5sp Yeah true actually. Didn't Vegeta go around mopping up the rest of Frieza's men?

    • @RandomGuy-zl5sp
      @RandomGuy-zl5sp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      hrthrhs I’m pretty sure idk how many were left alive tho

  • @hxcvocalist
    @hxcvocalist 4 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    I wonder what would happen if you mix Saiyan and Tsufuru. Strong with lust for battle and intelligent. A fixed Gohan.

    • @1014p
      @1014p 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      TriEdgedPrism ouch that’s a bit painful.

    • @1014p
      @1014p 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The No.1 Guy yea your brains aren’t written over if your genetics also foster stronger bodies. How that individual chooses to train or use their ability is still up to that individual. Culture is what drives the thirst for battle. You can see this in our soldiers today. Those on multiple tours find the battle field home even after leaving. So they often pursue activities closely following that level of action or life. Say firearms instructors and such. Others pick up rafting tours. There fight or flight is a daily occurrence.

    • @hxcvocalist
      @hxcvocalist 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@maymay5600 Oh wow never thought about it like that, that could explain how short they are, that would crumble vegeta world of being a pure blood saiyan, when he could actually be an hybrid :O

    • @hxcvocalist
      @hxcvocalist 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@maymay5600 Not sur what you meant by ''i don't trust how you replied''. My english isn't that good. I was serious and not sarcastic. What if Vegeta was actually a hybrid, thinking all his life he was the best of the best.

    • @babyfaceaviator7862
      @babyfaceaviator7862 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I had a theory, though not a very strong one, that maybe Vegeta is half Tuffle. Explains why he's short, smarter than most Saiyans and was more compatible with Baby than the others whose bodies got taken over.

  • @CipherDVoid
    @CipherDVoid 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This reminded me of a theory I made long ago. The root of it came from that King Vegeta was a Hybrid of Saiyan and Tuffles. Vegeta said in canon that hybrid Saiyans can sometimes wield incredible reserves of power. It would make sense because King Vegeta easily transitioned the technology to the truffles. What made them royalty was that they held this level of intelligence with the Saiyans nature battle power. Like maybe how Vegeta had full control of his Ozaru form could speak on this. This allows a perfect transition of power because of King Vegeta III would have already known how to work the technology. Most likely he was supposed to be a symbol of peace between the two races. Yet he chooses to dominate the truffles instead of settling in peace. That once they relinquished their technology to him he allowed them to escape and keep the planet for himself. Around this time he also realized that Tarble carried more Truffle characteristics than Saiyan so he exiled him as well. Which could mean there are more hybrids and the original Saiyan race to held in the universe. The reason why they weren't discovered was most likely their power levels were too low.
    This also lead to another theory it is a slight tweak to the Tarble storyline. That Tarble was actually lying when he came for Vegeta's aid. That Tarble actually wanted to recruit Vegeta. That during the time of Frieza's and King Cold's death Tarble has been venturing the galaxy taking over the Frieza empire and using them for his own gain. Also during this time, Tarble discovered more Saiyans survivors who were overlooked due to their battle power. I believe King Vegeta III was aware of his son's aptitude that he was far more intelligent than himself. That his son was more of a cold-hearted tactician than even himself. Seeing the potential strategist that Tarble was King Vegeta III planned for him to take others to create another Saiyan Colony. Tarble would then find the Tuffles again and using them he planned to create his own Tarble then orchestrated for the alien brothers to come and kill Vegeta to test his strength. However Tarble realized that Vegeta lost much of his cold-heartedness since they last met. Seeing him with a family and friends Tarble lost respect for his brother. That Tarble adored every evil exploit Vegeta ever done. He was proud of the sayian warrior. That he organized an entire army so that Vegeta could lead them and the rest of the saiyans to their highest point. Before Tarble left he used a tracking device to keep tabs on Vegeta. Ever since they met he has been seeking to return Vegeta to his former self. That he planned to kidnap the family he made on earth. Thus would force Vegeta to ask doctor briefs to develop a spacecraft and search for his family. Each and every planet he goes to would be one that he had wiped out. The Z fighters would discover this and remember just how evil Vegeta use to be. At first Vegeta acts like it doesn't effect him. That's when he sees family pictures that he wiped out with his own hands. There's more and I know its kinda dark, but I really wanted to make a Vegeta based arc. One that would force Vegeta to relieve his past and increase his bonds with the Z fighters.

  • @8ballmoe
    @8ballmoe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    Frieza is the real OG we need to expand upon his race and backstory imo
    Hope he eventually gets the attention he and cooler needs

    • @masknzgamer
      @masknzgamer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Cooler isn't canon to the story

    • @juliandavidhoffer2022
      @juliandavidhoffer2022 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Hope you are prepared for massive disappointment because that ain’t Toriyamas style.

    • @8ballmoe
      @8ballmoe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I’m not a guy who cares about things like “canon” tbh
      It doesn’t matter too me

    • @juliandavidhoffer2022
      @juliandavidhoffer2022 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Bounty Hunter Kakuzu but you are saying you want Cooler to be expanded on in the lore. And he doesn’t exist except in shit like Heroes, so how would Toriyama expand on him?

    • @8ballmoe
      @8ballmoe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Headshredder expand on him by giving him a story and shit like flashbacks
      Not that difficult to understand. Just write him in.... not that hard

  • @maybetoby
    @maybetoby 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Lol I wouldn't call King Vegeta and Frieza's relationship a "partnership."

    • @Geekdom101
      @Geekdom101  4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      thats what it was

    • @maybetoby
      @maybetoby 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@Geekdom101 nah, King Vegeta was Frieza's slave. He definitely wasn't treated as an equal.

    • @Only_God_Is_Allah_SWT
      @Only_God_Is_Allah_SWT 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It was a slavery actually.
      Saiyans got conquered by King Cold then they were introduced to Lord Frieza.
      That's the story from Bardock movie.

    • @urmumgae4245
      @urmumgae4245 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      More like king Vegeta was his bitch

    • @codymcguire189
      @codymcguire189 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Geekdom101 you don't understand what that term means...

  • @adamrivera1360
    @adamrivera1360 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've been watching you for about 5 years now and you've never made a weak video. Keep kicking ass and I hope your health recovers soon.

  • @artisticAJ91
    @artisticAJ91 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I wonder if the saiyans cross bred with the suffurians which resulted in higher intellect amongst the saiyan race.

    • @dablaccaiyan9152
      @dablaccaiyan9152 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Very possible

    • @JohnDoe-dw7je
      @JohnDoe-dw7je 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Maybe the saiyans rejected them because their half breeds

    • @TheHylden
      @TheHylden 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I mean, the Tsufruians are like a foot tall. I don't think normal copulation would be possible.

    • @thekingbradable
      @thekingbradable 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They probably did at some point

  • @applebee6455
    @applebee6455 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    *Random question:* Would you play a game that was based on Saiyan's early history and you had to take control of the planet from the Tuffle's and Plantians people; travel the universe 'colonising' planets all the while your character rises up the ranks to become the Leader/King of the Saiyan race?

    • @DatDude0925
      @DatDude0925 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Funny someone says something like this.
      I had an idea for a strategy game where you play as the different Universe 7 races in their ancient histories. So the Saiyans, the Namekians, Frieza’s Race, and even Ancient Humans. The idea is that it was a time of great conflict, and they were all vying for galactic conquest at the time. Each race would have its own style. Saiyans would be heavily offensive, with fewer units but each unit is more powerful on average, and they’d have Super Saiyans and Great Apes as elite units, and theoretical lore characters as leader units, such as Vegeta I, Yamoshi, the original Broly, etc.
      Namekians would be defensive, and focus on having similar unit variety as the Saiyans without being as aggressive. They’d have Super and Great Namekians as elite units.
      Frieza’s Race would be the “spammer” army, with a bunch of cheap, easy to produce, and expendable units. They’d all be in their “first forms.” Their more expensive units would be in their second forms, elite units in their third forms, and HQ would be in their Final Form.
      Ancient Humans would be balanced. Not terrible at anything, but not amazing at anything either. I think I’d steal from Halo’s book and make them really technologically advanced, which is how they keep up, with their HQ units being actual masters of Ki. And I’d probably throw Olibu from filler in as one of them.

    • @batboythecool
      @batboythecool 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DatDude0925 genius!

    • @dakpickels7412
      @dakpickels7412 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yo you making it or...

    • @DatDude0925
      @DatDude0925 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wish I could lol. I have a lot of ideas like these, but no clout IRL.

    • @applebee6455
      @applebee6455 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DatDude0925 You say _"strategy game"_ . Do you be top down view like Diablo 3 games or Age Of Empires style?
      You say you have lots of ideas; what else have you thought of?

  • @BruceVial
    @BruceVial 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Been waiting years for someone to do an in-depth on the Saiyan war. Hopefully it builds to my hype lol

  • @christoferkaltsas3282
    @christoferkaltsas3282 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'd love to see a clone wars like cartoon about the saiyan wars

  • @zp944
    @zp944 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Appreciate the work you do on putting these videos together

  • @CSZeraphyr
    @CSZeraphyr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Subscribed man. Keep it up dude. I really snuffed this for too long and now I understand the dragon ball universe way more

  • @AndrewAce.
    @AndrewAce. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    So basically Nature vs Science...
    Watching Dr. Stone rn 🤣

  • @SSJHarvey
    @SSJHarvey 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Geekdom101 i just wanna say I was a (Dragonball head) but uve gone ABOVE AND BEYOND to teach me things that I never knew about Dragonball and turn me into a Grade 4 super Saiyan and I THANK U SO MUCH for your dedication ❤️

  • @JAOwasthere
    @JAOwasthere 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The Baby concept and design are the only thing that i find cool from GT.

    • @GangstaProdukcja
      @GangstaProdukcja 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ghyulane Hydroxenn what about SSJ4?

    • @JAOwasthere
      @JAOwasthere 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Meh.

    • @ThatDragonGuy
      @ThatDragonGuy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GangstaProdukcja It was introduced you early and nerfed

    • @somethingsomewhere66
      @somethingsomewhere66 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThatDragonGuy too early? there was literally only 29 episodes left goku went ssj4 in ep 35 and the entire thing was like 64 episodes, how is that too early?

    • @devilfromhell8546
      @devilfromhell8546 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ssj4?

  • @adriancampbell2192
    @adriancampbell2192 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What needs to happen is simple:
    Shine some more light on Planet Sadala because Cabba mentioned there being a King there. Take a few episodes to let Vegeta learn some more history about everything. Make some of GT canon to where we can get a better understanding of this Tuffle-Saiyan war. Also, explain who King Vegeta really is. Supposedly Prince Vegeta is a fourth. & Last, but not least if "Yamoshi" is the king of Sadala?? I wish Goku would wish his dad back.
    I'm willing to bet anything that when super returns, it's gonna fill us in on ALOT of things. Especially now since it's many other universes with Gods & angels. Also hoping the series to run like Z did. We need more than 131 episodes. At least 200! That way nothing is rushed & we can get the stories & arcs in full depth

  • @peterortiz1160
    @peterortiz1160 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Damn, this was a good episode

  • @mauricetejada6553
    @mauricetejada6553 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Toriyama is slick
    planet plant was the saiyan's world, and all their names are based on plants, specifically vegetables
    examples:
    kakorrot - carrot
    bardock - burdock
    vegeta and tarble - vegetable

  • @KaiserMattTygore927
    @KaiserMattTygore927 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I hunger for a spin off mini-series about that war, maybe with King Vegeta or Bardock as villain protagonists

    • @lauraannevely
      @lauraannevely 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      SkyTech RTS me too, I didn’t care for super, I always thought a back story if it all would be cooler.

  • @grven4287
    @grven4287 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love how you discarded everything from Super. Thank you

  • @bj318
    @bj318 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I was waiting at the door for this notification

  • @xavierstewart5756
    @xavierstewart5756 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for doing this video!

  • @xavierh1744
    @xavierh1744 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    King Vegeta said "ight they needa head out"

  • @TheDiscoDev
    @TheDiscoDev 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video that deals with a great aspect of Dragonball history. I always loved the episode of DBZ where King Kai tells the story of the war. I always wanted to hear more about it. Thanks for putting this together.

  • @gabenbenitamesa6893
    @gabenbenitamesa6893 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hell yeah, I've always liked GT because of the lore about the Saiyan war. Among other things. I don't know why some people didn't like it as much as I.

  • @mikisouskue4428
    @mikisouskue4428 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What do you think about a Saiyan tuffle hybrid be like?

  • @Revealingstorm.
    @Revealingstorm. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Man, imagine a war where the saiyans have the super saiyan power mostly unlocked. Where generals are like super saiyan 3 - 4, and the grunts and lieutenants can go super saiyan 1- 2. Would be cool. There needs to be an elseworld story like that.

    • @biology9810
      @biology9810 ปีที่แล้ว

      My brain hurt while I read this comment

    • @Revealingstorm.
      @Revealingstorm. ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@biology9810 there's nothing grammatically confusing about it

  • @cuauhtemocgonzales2530
    @cuauhtemocgonzales2530 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Before the Broly movie I always wondered why Prince Vegeta isn't known as Vegeta Jr. but after watching the movie I understand why he isn't known as Vegeta Jr.

  • @sanyawilliams2499
    @sanyawilliams2499 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    What if broly has some type of relation to the first super Saiyan.

  • @DBSChronicles
    @DBSChronicles 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really enjoyed the video. Thanks for the in depth explanation. ❤🙏

  • @CrimsonRexx
    @CrimsonRexx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Imagine if they did cross breed think they would be stronger then a cross breed like gohan?

  • @justinmoody9164
    @justinmoody9164 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I wish the creators decided to make Bulma’s family descendants of the Tuffles. Like maybe instead of being sent to other planets to conquer and sell, the Tuffles could have used their intellect and technology to spread peace and prosperity to other worlds. This could explain why a Tuffle or Tuffles was on earth and fell in love with an earthing resulting in the brief’s family line. When you think about it Bulma and Dr. Briefs both look strikingly similar to the Tuffles shown in the flashbacks. This would also explain their intelligence and give more weight to Bulma and Vegeta’s relationship. It may sound dumb... but I think it would have been cool.

    • @ramenbomberdeluxe4958
      @ramenbomberdeluxe4958 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The only problem with that is that Humans already get underpowered and shit on as is, taking away their token intellect is not only further insulting humanity, but it also further validates the lack of human OC's, and also just dilutes the importance of humans in comparison to other races.

    • @user-nr6is3eh2c
      @user-nr6is3eh2c 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      HopefulKaede123 but that could be the case

  • @ss.fx3626
    @ss.fx3626 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    They should make a film showcasing the history of sayians from their beginnings to their rise in power

  • @vegettoblack7852
    @vegettoblack7852 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Ive always seen the saiyand and tuffles being like the athenians and spartians of cladsical greece

    • @littleraul8208
      @littleraul8208 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I see it More like tuffles as the late Roman empire and the saiyans as the Germanic tribes

  • @rhysparry2855
    @rhysparry2855 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think dbs should make a film about the entire ancient saiyans

  • @keysersoze375
    @keysersoze375 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for your authenticity of the conflict of the Tsurfujins and Saiyajins..At last the truth behind the Tsurfujins,Dr Lychee,Baby The Tsurfujin King and Hatchiyack..Domo Arigato

  • @richiefranklin76
    @richiefranklin76 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Tsufurians sort of remind me of the Elves from Black clover.
    A highly intelligent and peace loving race,that eventually were obliterated to extinction.Yet somehow managed to return later as hate filled malevolent entities,bent on revenge against the race that killed them.
    So in that case Licht is pretty much the equivalent of Baby/the Tsufurian king

  • @johnrhogan2908
    @johnrhogan2908 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One thing I love about your Dragon Ball videos, is the research that goes into each video, from this recent In Depth to the Saiya-jin transformations.
    Can't wait for the Super Saiya-jin God & Super Saiya-jin Blue videos. Looking forward to getting brought up to speed, cause I didn't watch DBSuper from beginning to end. I jumped on during the Tournament of Power story (Best animation quality).

  • @SuperTyrannt
    @SuperTyrannt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It'll be cool if they adapted some of this and made it so that a few of them got away to rebuild their race in a corner of the galaxy. They could find out about it through Jaco (cuz they never really ask) and turns out they're big contributors of the galactic patrol. Open hostility to Goku and especially Vegeta, Vegeta feeling a bit of guilt and constant squabbles over bad blood.
    I could see a story arc about this.

  • @kathyprior4281
    @kathyprior4281 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Enjoyed this video very much. It was interesting to dig deeper into the Saiyan Tuffle war event.

  • @HitKLHman
    @HitKLHman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Funny vegeta is so short lol. Let’s find out. Vegeta was half tuffle

    • @klokinstein
      @klokinstein 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That would break him.

    • @HitKLHman
      @HitKLHman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Kinda explain why he couldnt go ssj 2 took him til berrus slapping bulma. Nor ssj3.

    • @TyReckless117
      @TyReckless117 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      2HAYLOR1 what are you talking about ? He had SS2 in the BUU arc

    • @HitKLHman
      @HitKLHman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      TyeNostrodomus idk man. Have to listen to what they say when vegeta faced goku. Vegeta needed majin stamp to give him a boost to pass gohan ssj2. Vegeta also said to goku that he was stronger than his son in the cell arc. Yet goku was way passed that ssj3. If goku would have just went ssj3 vs vegeta. He would have wiped the floor with him. Goku hid his power to have a even spar with vegeta.
      Goku conceded to fight vegeta in another area so he wouldn’t kill any more innocent bystanders. But he never took that fight seriously cause buu was the main threat

    • @devilfromhell8546
      @devilfromhell8546 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HitKLHman well you're not wrong cause vegeta couldn't actually go ssj2 until majin thing happened but it was way before beerus slaps bulma and vegeta's state in battle of god was called ssj2 quake which he used to fight beerus when beerus slaped bulma

  • @pop6ixdouble004
    @pop6ixdouble004 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sayians are like Spartans 💯💯

  • @javierfavela2255
    @javierfavela2255 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Hey Geekdom101, how come u didn't mention the DBZ TV special "Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans"?🤔

    • @Geekdom101
      @Geekdom101  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      because its a video game

    • @javierfavela2255
      @javierfavela2255 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A game, I always thought it was a TV special like "Bardock The Father of Goku"!😕

  • @IveBeenChris
    @IveBeenChris 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    As a middle schooler I alway made up a story where there was some saiyans that was away when Freeza attacked... These saiyan continue to live a savage life for there it makes them naturally stronger...... A “evil” saiyan takeover story would be bad ass.

  • @fedenciogonzalezjr9051
    @fedenciogonzalezjr9051 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video I was always interested in that part of the history in dbz thanks for the research 👍

  • @wildstriker128
    @wildstriker128 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Saiyans vs Science

  • @ThePrometheus617
    @ThePrometheus617 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I thought i was told that King Vegeta went to the planet PLANT because he was in a civil war in the original Saiyan planet

  • @Boristien405
    @Boristien405 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm thinking the legendary super Saiyan definitely could've first actually been discovered in universe 6

  • @jpmchausse
    @jpmchausse 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the lore videos that aren't really shown or told in order in the show. Thanks for the vid man!

  • @GabrielCruz-xj6ir
    @GabrielCruz-xj6ir 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    If the saiyans were evil then why did the tuffles betray them and used them as slaves?

  • @real_kicks1
    @real_kicks1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yessir, I get a speakdom and a Geekdom vid about the saiyans!!

  • @Ksmoove0824
    @Ksmoove0824 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i wish the anime did more of telling the story of the Saiyans from dragonball to dragonball z

  • @benwelsh5265
    @benwelsh5265 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been looking forward to this one and I'm happy to say I'm not disappointed.

  • @quartzquantum7530
    @quartzquantum7530 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I hope someday that Vegeta goes to Planet Sandala.

    • @ANKOBROWN
      @ANKOBROWN 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Me too. I think vegeta will cry a little. I would be happy for vegeta.

    • @AmonsRealm
      @AmonsRealm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ANKOBROWN I feel like he would be mad that Sayains are soft lol

    • @ANKOBROWN
      @ANKOBROWN 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AmonsRealm he was mad that cabba was soft. Vegeta needs goku, gohan, broly, trunks and goten to come and teach the universe 6 saiyans what they could be.

  • @v.e.s2884
    @v.e.s2884 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A movie about this will be so damm good

  • @devilfromhell8546
    @devilfromhell8546 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1:05 man tsufurians are sooooo tiny then saiyans even not in oozaru,so basically they will be tiny for even humans

    • @countcr33per
      @countcr33per หลายเดือนก่อน

      Personally I feel their size in the anime is a little off, the anime, tends to screw with scaling a bit, you can see that with the Oozaru transformations some being highly inconsistent, even just in the Goku vs Vegeta fight.
      The Tsufruians are definitely shorter than the Saiyans though, I'd say a descent height to compare them to would be Krillin and Yajirobe.

  • @UchiGang
    @UchiGang 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love this omg. They need release these officially man. They’d make a killing.

  • @mnj4christ516
    @mnj4christ516 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Bruh the tuffles are still stronger than the average human 10x earth gravity would slowly kill any human so despite their size the tuffles were probably pretty strong in their own right

  • @Glamosapien
    @Glamosapien 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dragonball has so much potential to go into the lore and origins of the saiyansz vegeta has his brother who could potentially know were nore information exists about saiyans. I love the idea that saiyans evolved from oozarus too

  • @ChrisCarrasquillo
    @ChrisCarrasquillo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Gt had great ideas with poor execution. If i was Toriyama I'd incorporate the Baby and shadow dragons Arcs into super.

    • @masknzgamer
      @masknzgamer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nope. Please stop. Nobody wants the shity kid goku again

    • @ChrisCarrasquillo
      @ChrisCarrasquillo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@masknzgamer not the kid goku stuff but like the villains and the concepts around them.

    • @masknzgamer
      @masknzgamer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ChrisCarrasquillo i really don't like gt that much. It was really really boring. Ssj4 was definitely the only highlight. Even gogeta was boring. Because back in the 90s. Animation was restricted and it really didn't feel that op

  • @JoeDirtisawsome
    @JoeDirtisawsome 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    technically, Saiyans and Tuffles are the correct names as well. just because the names were translated to English, doesnt mean that the names are wrong. As an english speaker, do you say Spain or Espania?

  • @ssj_skylab121
    @ssj_skylab121 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    GT’s Baby and Shadow Dragon arcs were really good. Just those ideas make GT better than DBS for me

  • @topshotta352
    @topshotta352 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think Oozaru being the original primary form makes sense or perhaps Saiyans themselves are a diluted version of a race that resembled the great ape.
    Greatest part of this essay is the decision to forgo Super lore.

  • @gokulee2133
    @gokulee2133 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Your viewers are not japanese. Your just confessing casuls. Nobody calls them tha. But purest, who thinkk there better then everybody. Sorry not trying to be rude. But tired of people trashing there oiwn language but i respect you. Have a greatday :)

    • @turkishwhiteout
      @turkishwhiteout 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      goku lee I ain’t mad at that playboi

    • @gokulee2133
      @gokulee2133 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks bud :)y

  • @codykoch6299
    @codykoch6299 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jeez brother!! You never cease to amaze me. Great job once again also I wish you well on your journey to getting your health back . We are all sending genki.

  • @iEndFuturez
    @iEndFuturez 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Am I the only one who couldn’t watch the video just off how he’s pronouncing saiyans 😂😂😂

    • @jjmaster0113pro
      @jjmaster0113pro 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yh I tried my best to ignore it lol

  • @flight4951
    @flight4951 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you so much Geekdom for the great content.

  • @kingjustin1993
    @kingjustin1993 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Gt..... not canon. Super....... hella canon.

  • @nuniesk8s
    @nuniesk8s 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im happy to be back! I got alot catching up to! Happy to see you keeping strong geekdom101!

  • @mattwaley1102
    @mattwaley1102 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Sounds like Neanderthals and Homo sapiens but Homo sapiens won so I guess it’s cause Neanderthals can go ozaru, wait this is exactly like that now I know where it got inspired from

  • @SoccerStar26
    @SoccerStar26 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was an awesome video, hopefully next movie has some more Saiyan history lore in the first portion

  • @OliviaLaferriere
    @OliviaLaferriere ปีที่แล้ว

    DBZ games should have a museum exhibit on the saiyan race, their lives before Frieza and their leaders past and present including their uniforms, jewelry and personal portraits

  • @daytonchris8351
    @daytonchris8351 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i always thought king vegeta was only king because he led the saiyans to take over planet tuffle. i never knew he came from an actual royale bloodline. thanks for clearing that up for me.

  • @arronjerden915
    @arronjerden915 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The greatest secret it all of DragonBall is the reason that Prince Vegeta is so short......he is half Tsufurian and the reason for the war was a custody dispute.

  • @antcow1239
    @antcow1239 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I realized something with the arrival of Cumber. He was an ancient Saiyan, who came from the original home world of his race.
    The saiyans who arrived on what would be called planet Vegeta were the weakest of their kind and evacuated Salada before it was destroyed.

  • @SILOPshuvambanerjee
    @SILOPshuvambanerjee 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If Tuffles and Saiyans were united, then Freeza couldn't destroy the planet

  • @Nhileishere
    @Nhileishere 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I recently fully got in dbz and being a fan of yours i cant wait to delve into your videos on it! I come from your reviews and videos on non dbz things

  • @RedShirtRemyStarship
    @RedShirtRemyStarship 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Prince Vegeta looks so damn cool in this thumbnail. Regal and Pride of the Saiyan race.

  • @SuperRichyrich11
    @SuperRichyrich11 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    “Vegeta my son, the planet, or me?”
    “Yes.”
    *gets blasted*
    “Fuckin smartass”