The original drawing of "SS5 Goku" was actually an OC called Tablos, and it was submitted in an old issue of a Spanish gaming magazine called Hobby Consolas. The original artist still does art til this day, and even did one where Tablos went up against SSB Goku.
He didn't create it. Dragon Ball AF's name, and "Super Saiyan 5 Goku" were made for a magazine by a Hispanic fan post GT. That picture of Goku isn't Goku, it's a picture of the fan's OC Tablos in his Spirit Surge form
I remember being a little kid in 2006 watching all the AF lore on TH-cam . I was always intrigued by the blue general rildo look alike called Zeel, very unknown.
@@KingKasper I never had internet back in my day. Back in 2016 I saw ssj5 goku and when I first saw it. It looks pretty clean and pretty dope. Who made ssj5 is David Montiel Franco.
As an ex-AF creator (Blazejecar), it would be interesting to note that sprite animations were a huge part of the AF world. People creating the story themselves with a medium that needed a bit less effort and not as good of a pc as actual animation. And the fun part is, we were one of the first people to bring sprite animation from newgrounds to youtube (in my case, I was 13 and simply didnt know newgrounds existed so I just uploaded on youtube) and after mine and some others' sprite series made it into mainstream fandom, tons of people started doing sprite animations and it ended up being a huge factor to why sprite animation is so widely used now (by screwattack and the like). Without AF it's possible sprite animation would've remained a dying niche on newgrounds, because back then super mario bros Z was the only thing keeping it kinda alive and even that was ending at the time
@@maxmysterio @white shadows Thank you for being fans :) i wish youtube copyright would've let me continue, but maybe ill look into releasing the story some other way. Maybe manga? Gotta find an artist 😅
@@blazejecar its crazy randomly seeing you in TH-cam comments. I was watching the episodes and parts while doing homework for higschool, late afternoon, good times. it's a pleasure "meeting" you. Hope you have a great day!
@@ngaihneunaulak4110 it’s just a joke about how even if you didn’t make it to the destination or obtain the end result you wanted, it’s okay because the most important and valuable part is the journey itself, the memories and the friends you met.
I would never forget desperately googling “dragon ball af episode 1” and searching every Google page 🤣 as if page 15 would randomly have a hidden official episode 🤣 straight feening
Fun fact: Toyble wasn't a company, it was one guy who was particularly talented at drawing Dragon Ball. He later actually ended up studying under Toriyama himself and changed his username/pen name to Toyotarou. He's now the guy who draws and is in charge of the Dragon Ball Super manga. So the fan artist who made Dragon Ball AF a reality (even if it was never finished) is now one of the most important people working on the real IP. It's a nice success story.
In hindsight, AF kinda became a reality thanks to Super Dragon Ball Heroes. There might not be a Xicor, but we got a super saiyan form with red as well as blue hair, Baby possessed villains, Towa is effectively a demon version of Xicor's mom complete with Fu (or even just Mira) having some of Goku's dna, SSJ4 Broly, even a super saiyan (3) Raditz.
SSJ5 Goku is an image that always lives in my head. It was a beautiful image. Loved when we got a sprite of it in the LSW style. Now hearing the way the form is gained, well, that is just sad. You would think something more epic would happen, but nope same method as you get 4, just different.
As a kid and seeing the fan forms was the coolest things i have seen! This was after GT ended on nicktoons and i really thought that AF would be a future series to come out; Sadly it never did, But seeing those now really made me enjoy AF even more nowadays
I have a copy of modded DBZ Budokai 3 called Budokai AF from 2006 i think. Absolutely in love with it, has a bunch of re-skins which look okay, story is set 200 years after the events of GT and it has a interesting storyline. It's quite well incorporated into the existing story. There are tuffles coming to Earth, then the Hell saga where you get to fight Nappa which can go SSJ4, after that is the Zeel saga and in the end you have the Evil Goku saga. For all the people who followed all the AF shit back in the 00s/early 10s you know what I'm talking about. I just wanted to play Budokai 3, found it on Pirat Bay and surprise surprise got an absolute gem hahaha.
Honestly I would have preferred we got Dragon Ball AF over Dragon Ball Super honestly because it takes place right after GT it continues to continuity and doesn't pull them crap out of his ass it actually explains what's going on and how everything adds up to the continuity so I would prefer us getting Dragon Ball AF officially then Dragon Ball super honestly
When i was a kid in mexico and there was a fair in my home town most of the little booths and shops had DBAF merch. I bought puzzles and even trading cards. Me and my cousin were so convinced it was a real thing and couldnt to see it
I was one of them children waiting on DB AF to hit. I always thought it was the real deal. Even read the storys behind them. I was hit when I was told it is fan made. But loved the people that out in the work. Regardless its still a favorite of mine. Way better then this so call DB Super
Totally went through the same thing man l agree with you. Dragon Ball AF is untouched compared to super or at least what super could and should have been
Amazing video! Back in the day, I briefly believed Dragon Ball AF was real...until I visited that same exact geocities site with the big "NO!". Good times.
While you left some stuff out, I’m impressed with how much of the fan content you covered. Most who talk AF only cover the Toyable (Toyataru) and fake ads side of this topic because Toyable eventually became a creator for Dragon Ball and Toei ran with AF being a joke. But (in my opinion) AF has always been about the fans and what they wanted out of Dragon Ball. The story of AF is up to which one the fan wants to be canon, and if you’re not satisfied with any, you can create your own story for the series! This is what I think AF truly means to fans as a whole.
Appreciate it man! What the fans want is the most important, this is an extension of that so why not enjoy it as more than a joke. Couldn't agree with you more!
good video, however i felt it was all over the place. I think it'd be awesome if you did an AF video about each different AF story. DBAF IS pretty much a cluster of fan stories and art, but there is different AF authors i think you can dive into separately instead of as one.
I remember fondly the halcyon days of looking at Dragon Ball AF content and viewing it as though it were an official property despite knowing the truth. I didn't care (and still don't) because honestly it was cool to see the passion that these fans were exuding and I was happy to be a part of the fandom. I will look you dead in the eye and tell you that this era was more magical and far more heartfelt than Super could ever hope to be.
I was just like you, when I saw the image of that SSJ5 Goku, I was thinking that Dragon Ball AF series was coming out after Dragon Ball GT. But after months of seeing images, came across sites stating it’s not coming nor were those images from the creators. Basically moved on knowing it wasn’t gonna happen.
Fun fact: TablosAF (author of the Dragon Ball AF origins manga) created the famous SSJ5. A Brazilian magazine used it for some reason, maybe for the April Fool day. The SSJ5 wasn't even Goku. He was supposed to be the whis of the series. Training both Goku and Vegeta.
@@AaronAlert77 I heard on the interview he did really made it. And how got upset that Toyo used his character to get famous. Even hates the DBSuper himself due to Toyo directions that he is leading the series. So some people really believe that Toyo made SSJ5 and not Young JiJi. But honestly I did too before he came out public with it.
7:28, "We can't forget the fusions, and some of these fusions were downright crazy!" Me: Crazy fusions, huh? So maybe a (now) Grandpa Gohan fused with LSSJ Broly to fight some new threat? Or maybe a double fusion- 2 potara fused characters using the fusion dance? Or maybe some fenale saiyans? Video: "Here are some *crazy* transformations called Vegito and Gogeta!!" Wow, such crazy! Never would've guessed 2 characters named after the original MC would also have the same names when fused! Honestly was hoping to hear about some of the AF inspired works, such ss Dragonball Absalom, or the muktiversal tournament that had different timelines fight, or even parody elements such as Gohan Blanco or Jiren's brother. Still enjoyed the video, just 2 things that came to mind.
With regard to where the rumor of the original Dragon Ball AF came from, the image of "Super Saiyan 5 Goku" appeared as a fan work by David Montiel Franco in the Spanish magazine Hobby Consolas. Derek Padula learned in an interview with Franco that the character was, in fact, never Goku, but his own character Tablos, who lives in a future timeline in which Goku has already died. I learned by interviewing Franco that the form Tablos used was not Super Saiyan 5, but a unique transformation known as Spirit Killer. Hope that information helps fill in some holes in how AF originally came to be! (Also, in Franco's original work, AF was an abbreviation for Alternate Future.)
What's funny about this the rumours were alive in 2009 when I was in middle school. One of my classmates said AF is false and the new dragon ball will be dbs, s for super and it's about Goku reaching godhood and merging it with super saiyan for more power. This lad was so close to reality it's stuck in my mind for the rest of my life even though we laughed at him back then.
Man. So many good times back in the day. I would. Come home from school and mindlessly browse the internet for AF content. It was the only thing I searched on the internet as I wasn't yet aware of its other capabilities.
I remember when it was 2014 and I’ve just finished watching Dragon Ball GT with my lil brother so we went up to TH-cam and started watching Dragon Ball AF together thinking it was real.
Back then I didn't know that Dragon Ball AF was fan made material. I thought it was the real deal. I mean the aesthetics of super saiyan 5 were out of this world.
I first watches dragon ball z in the late 90's in Mexico. My older cousin used to watch it all the time so I would too. When I got older in the mid 2000's I rediscovered it, I remember watching GT after I finished Z. Then I I wanted more and would constantly search pictures of ssj5 and 6 and so on. I was obsessed with it, AF was something that eluded me but I constantly saw pictures on Google and anywhere else I found. Dragon Ball really got me into Anime when at the time it wasn't cool to watch it. NARUTO and Bleach were my havens back then.
Yo totally identify with your story! Anime in the 90s was low key hated on in the main stream internationally but the real ones knew it was good! Bleach and Naruto were also my favs back then! Can't wait for TYBW arc in a few weeks
I remember limewire and morpheus, downloading as many dbz clips as I could, and I came across some of these weird AF ones. Pretty awesome character designs
The story I knew back in the early 2000's was that Dragon Ball AF was set after the GT series. But then my elder brother said "AF stands for April Fish, it is not real". To this day, I don't know where he took this information and how he knew that back then.
Do a video on dragon ball AF by young ji ji. I own some of the books, but haven't gotten passed a certain part. You featured one of the volumes at 0:22 but didn't tell its story as well.
Edit: I originally posted this on Saiyan Scholar's channel on the video titled "Why MUI makes no sense". Please enjoy this tiny excerpt. Fun fact: Toyotaro aka Toyble was the one who proposed the idea of a new transformation after Akira Toriyama brought SSG into the mix. Before being hired by Toei, Toyotaro as Toyble was writing and drawing his own line of DBAF fan manga. Which is a direct continuation of DBGT, Goku had attained a new form in the Dragon Realm. A new form that dwarfed Full Power SSJ4 and even surpasses SSJ4 Gogeta by leagues above. However in order to attain SSJ5 one has to completely empty himself and have full control of their emotions otherwise the power of SSJ5 would literally crush and explode the wielder of such tremendous power which coincidently mirrors Ultra Instinct. Fun fact: Toyotaro aka Toyble ran with the whole mantra of SSJ5 because of that infamous SSJ5 fan art by David Montiel Franco, who came out years later to say that's not Goku. His name is Tablos, a random unknown saiyan who miraculously survived the destruction of planet Vegeta. Who vigorously trained to attain a power that would surpass all known gods without God Ki. 🤔 Hmmm sounds like the archetype to Jiren as well, a being that's stronger than his God of Destruction Belmont. So yeah, absolute legend Toyotaro and David Montiel Franco. Edit: So yeah. The fandom had a God form before it was even a thing and in the mind of Akira Toriyama. Edit: So in essence Toyotaro and Akira Toriyama took notes from DBGT and DBAF and adapted to DBS. Especially the UI White Angelic hair, because SSJ5 is white greyish shiny hair. Edit: Toyotaro is the one who drew and brought into existence the Gods of Destruction. For example Lord Lood served as the inspiration for the God of Destruction Mosco. Funny enough Lord Lood is referred as a God of Destruction. Edit: Let's not forget and give Young Jiji's a shout out for his incredible works of art and expanding the lore of DBAF content. Edit: Now we have Mondo Cool, Unrealentgaming and CALLMEARJ and countless others writing and drawing new DBAF fan manga, DBS fan manga and alternate time-line fan manga. Absolutely breathtaking 😍. Edit: Let's not forget DB Multiverse was born out of the whole DBAF fanaticism. God bless 🙌 to the community for continuing the saga when big corporations have remained anemic. Cheers 🍻
I remember owning a budokai 3 mod , which was supposed to be "DBAF" , it started off with Hatchiyak and had the cool ss5 transformation , and some other moded characters.
One thing to note is just how murky the actual continuity of Dragon Ball was in the early 2000s. The internet wasn't what it was today, the only official DBZ website at the time just had a few bios for characters up to the Cell saga, and there wasn't really a single message board that was where most of the fans congregated. GT wasn't mentioned by official sources in the US, so we were all just going off of screencaps and promotional material. The most high profile thing I remember was a magazine called Beckett DBZ collector, an unofficial magazine that had articles, fan art, community news, posters, some truly heinous covers made in a blocky 3D style, and in the spring time, April Fool's pranks. If you got ahold of the issue that "confirmed" Dragonball AF without reading the editor's notes, AF was just as real as GT, or even the Buu saga, in our eyes. It's difficult to describe just how powerful those middle school rumors were before you could fact check everything you heard as soon as you got home. Pictures of Sonic in Super Smash Bros Melee, Super Saiyan 5 Goku, and Pokemon vs. YuGiOh had a vice grip on us kids.
Yoooo those were the days! Lurking the internet for images of stuff like sonic and smash Bros was so fun! It added a mystery to our favorite franchises that I don't think we can ever get back with the advancement of the internet. Thanks for bringing this up!
Thanks for explained this DB-AF, really never know what it is. I'm born 80s, really focus in DB & DBz only 😅. 🦧 Super Saiyan 6, 1st time i saw & heard about it. 😅 🦧 Who the heck is that white ape, idk either. 😅 Super Saiyan so darn advanced now, the heck idk ... 😜 Old man like me do really have to catch up (like a lot). 😁
God i remember when the og drawing started floating around the internet and we all started losing our minds. This and gt are why you have so many people divided on new dbz content. A lot of fans loved seeing more saiyan forms, then we got crayon god forms.
I kept looking up Dragon ball AF but I didn't know what it was, I thought it was something Toriama was working on but eventually I realized it was fan art
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Super Saiyan 5 Goku looks insane. MUI vs SSJ5...who you voting for?
I say both cuz idk the power level (ssj5 looks cooler)
@@XXBRMBOYXX ssj5 is such a cool design. I'ma agree with you homie 🙌🏼
@@KingKasper I wish it was a real dragon ball anime
@@XXBRMBOYXX ya this would have been epic. Probably more iconic than super
Video idea if you wanna do it:what if dragon ball af was cannon after that it will be super
The original drawing of "SS5 Goku" was actually an OC called Tablos, and it was submitted in an old issue of a Spanish gaming magazine called Hobby Consolas. The original artist still does art til this day, and even did one where Tablos went up against SSB Goku.
Yo that's crazy! Thanks for sharing bro!
Dope piece of content knowledge, thanks!
@@ChronicLogic thanks for watching!
can tablos defeat el grande padre
@@Josuh mayhaps
What's crazy is that the creator of the dragonball AF manga, Toyotarou, is now drawing for the actual canon Dragonball Super manga
Ya so wild haha
If that wasn't in the video it really should've been
It's really insane
I might as well make a sequel to Bleach called Detergent with Ichigo doing second release
No wonder it looks so good
Hears a something you left out. it was a young "Toyotarou" who created Dragon Ball AF. the Current writer of Dragon Ball Super.
Yes, realized that now! Thanks for watching 😄
Yep, he went by Toyble
@@kellywaddell4448 everything is full circle
His dream basically came true
He didn't create it. Dragon Ball AF's name, and "Super Saiyan 5 Goku" were made for a magazine by a Hispanic fan post GT. That picture of Goku isn't Goku, it's a picture of the fan's OC Tablos in his Spirit Surge form
I remember being a little kid in 2006 watching all the AF lore on TH-cam . I was always intrigued by the blue general rildo look alike called Zeel, very unknown.
Super low key days back of the internet! Get it my dude 🙌🏼
Yo same Zeel looked menacing
I remember AF back in the day. We all wanted AF... hell, still want it.
Right AF was so iconic especially coming off the heels of Dragon Ball GT everybody was hooked 🔥
How did you people not even realise it wasn't real I mean af clearly stands for absolutely fake
@@wayneking9997 🤣🤣🤣
@@KingKasper I never had internet back in my day. Back in 2016 I saw ssj5 goku and when I first saw it. It looks pretty clean and pretty dope. Who made ssj5 is David Montiel Franco.
@@yaboijuanito1460 aye that's lit. Thanks for dropping that gem 💎
As an ex-AF creator (Blazejecar), it would be interesting to note that sprite animations were a huge part of the AF world. People creating the story themselves with a medium that needed a bit less effort and not as good of a pc as actual animation.
And the fun part is, we were one of the first people to bring sprite animation from newgrounds to youtube (in my case, I was 13 and simply didnt know newgrounds existed so I just uploaded on youtube) and after mine and some others' sprite series made it into mainstream fandom, tons of people started doing sprite animations and it ended up being a huge factor to why sprite animation is so widely used now (by screwattack and the like). Without AF it's possible sprite animation would've remained a dying niche on newgrounds, because back then super mario bros Z was the only thing keeping it kinda alive and even that was ending at the time
That's crazy bro! Thank you for contributing to this amazing franchise 🔥
Wow, i remember your name, i watched your series. Good stuff
Your stuff was my fix back in the day, it made it seem so real and the love put in it. Thank you for doing your part and keeping the flame alive
@@maxmysterio @white shadows
Thank you for being fans :) i wish youtube copyright would've let me continue, but maybe ill look into releasing the story some other way. Maybe manga? Gotta find an artist 😅
@@blazejecar its crazy randomly seeing you in TH-cam comments. I was watching the episodes and parts while doing homework for higschool, late afternoon, good times. it's a pleasure "meeting" you. Hope you have a great day!
Toyble was the alias toyotarou used, the current person behind the dragon ball super manga, surprised it wasn't mentioned
Thanks for dropping that gem! 💎
*Toyble* 💀
@@mikethompson1653 🤣
Yea my brain record scratched when he said Toyble was a company.
Link to comic
The real dragonball AF was the friends we made along the way ❤
DAMN RIGHT 👍
Dragon ball: All Friends
@@dillonyoung5502 yes
Hey sorry to ask this but I've seen joke like this and I don't get it at all
@@ngaihneunaulak4110 it’s just a joke about how even if you didn’t make it to the destination or obtain the end result you wanted, it’s okay because the most important and valuable part is the journey itself, the memories and the friends you met.
I would never forget desperately googling “dragon ball af episode 1” and searching every Google page 🤣 as if page 15 would randomly have a hidden official episode 🤣 straight feening
🤣 we were all down bad for dragon ball
I remember spending hours searching for episodes of AF, printing the pictures off and drawing them. Hoping for more
So wild! You were a dedicated fan man! So many people out there were feening for more dragon ball! I can relate haha
Takes me back. Your video was well done man. Definitely got a subscriber and keep it up
@@ovoxodus1 appreciate it bro 👊🏽
Lol I remember me and all my friends searching Super Saiyan 100 and just geeking out, what a time to be alive
HAHA 100 don't kill me bro. Thanks for watching 🙌🏼
Fun fact:
Toyble wasn't a company, it was one guy who was particularly talented at drawing Dragon Ball. He later actually ended up studying under Toriyama himself and changed his username/pen name to Toyotarou. He's now the guy who draws and is in charge of the Dragon Ball Super manga.
So the fan artist who made Dragon Ball AF a reality (even if it was never finished) is now one of the most important people working on the real IP. It's a nice success story.
Ya super cool how he came up 🔥
In hindsight, AF kinda became a reality thanks to Super Dragon Ball Heroes.
There might not be a Xicor, but we got a super saiyan form with red as well as blue hair, Baby possessed villains, Towa is effectively a demon version of Xicor's mom complete with Fu (or even just Mira) having some of Goku's dna, SSJ4 Broly, even a super saiyan (3) Raditz.
Haha I never thought of this but it's an interesting way to link both series together!
And in Dragon Ball Heroes with Ssj4 Gohan and Adult Gotenks
Shit yeah you're kinda right actually
I don’t know what you’re talking about buddy Dragon Ball super hero didn’t have any of those people in it
@@thanosbustedinyourmum He's talking about the card game; Super Dragon Ball Heroes. Completely different
SSJ5 Goku is an image that always lives in my head. It was a beautiful image. Loved when we got a sprite of it in the LSW style. Now hearing the way the form is gained, well, that is just sad. You would think something more epic would happen, but nope same method as you get 4, just different.
Rehash power ups are what dbz is known for 🤣
As a kid and seeing the fan forms was the coolest things i have seen! This was after GT ended on nicktoons and i really thought that AF would be a future series to come out; Sadly it never did, But seeing those now really made me enjoy AF even more nowadays
Hopefully it comes out in the future. There's still time
@@KingKasper You may never know. Maybe it will some day; Official or fan made
I have a copy of modded DBZ Budokai 3 called Budokai AF from 2006 i think. Absolutely in love with it, has a bunch of re-skins which look okay, story is set 200 years after the events of GT and it has a interesting storyline. It's quite well incorporated into the existing story. There are tuffles coming to Earth, then the Hell saga where you get to fight Nappa which can go SSJ4, after that is the Zeel saga and in the end you have the Evil Goku saga. For all the people who followed all the AF shit back in the 00s/early 10s you know what I'm talking about. I just wanted to play Budokai 3, found it on Pirat Bay and surprise surprise got an absolute gem hahaha.
Sick bro! That would be so fun to play
I HAVE THAT ONE FOR MY PS2! (and I love the evil goku model)
Man I still have that game and play it to this day! I remember all those unique redesigns and characters lol
Your channel deserves more attention bro FR
Thank you fam really appreciate it 🙏🏼
Honestly I would have preferred we got Dragon Ball AF over Dragon Ball Super honestly because it takes place right after GT it continues to continuity and doesn't pull them crap out of his ass it actually explains what's going on and how everything adds up to the continuity so I would prefer us getting Dragon Ball AF officially then Dragon Ball super honestly
Ya DBS kinda annoying to me ngl
I had seen images before as a kid but this was the first time I've heard of AF as a whole. Thank you for the explanation
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching
Somehow AF has the best fan designs for SSJ5 and beyond than Super would ever have
Truly amazing of the fans
When i was a kid in mexico and there was a fair in my home town most of the little booths and shops had DBAF merch. I bought puzzles and even trading cards. Me and my cousin were so convinced it was a real thing and couldnt to see it
That's amazing! Its dope that internationally it has such an impact on people
I remember an image circulating years and years ago of Dragonball AF with SSJ4 adult Gohan taking reading glasses off
Take in now that version and ssj 5 (look wise) are in the new super movie
I remember AF when I was younger! It still lives on in our hearts!
Yes it's too epic to be forgotten
@@KingKasper hehe
It’s so crazy the dedication and creativity of this fan base. Gotta love em. I would have rather they created this than Super
Really the widest fan base in the world 🌎
I've always wondered what this side of the fandom was like. Thank you for going over it
No problem! Glad you enjoyed the video
I was one of them children waiting on DB AF to hit. I always thought it was the real deal. Even read the storys behind them. I was hit when I was told it is fan made. But loved the people that out in the work. Regardless its still a favorite of mine. Way better then this so call DB Super
Totally went through the same thing man l agree with you. Dragon Ball AF is untouched compared to super or at least what super could and should have been
Amazing video! Back in the day, I briefly believed Dragon Ball AF was real...until I visited that same exact geocities site with the big "NO!". Good times.
Thanks for watching!! Ahh the good old days of early internet
For what it's worth, this video only covers Toyble/Toyotarou's version of AF. It doesn't cover Yougn Jijii's AF. Maybe an idea for another video?
Ya could be! Thanks for watching
Young JiJii's was in there a little bit.
I will never forget how insane Ultimate Cell was or how utterly broken Super Saiyan Infinity Krillin and Legendary Super Saiyan 100 Brogeta is.
🤣🤣🤣
While you left some stuff out, I’m impressed with how much of the fan content you covered. Most who talk AF only cover the Toyable (Toyataru) and fake ads side of this topic because Toyable eventually became a creator for Dragon Ball and Toei ran with AF being a joke. But (in my opinion) AF has always been about the fans and what they wanted out of Dragon Ball. The story of AF is up to which one the fan wants to be canon, and if you’re not satisfied with any, you can create your own story for the series! This is what I think AF truly means to fans as a whole.
Appreciate it man! What the fans want is the most important, this is an extension of that so why not enjoy it as more than a joke. Couldn't agree with you more!
Somebody told me that Dragonball AF stood for April Fool's, and that's all past me needed to know lol. Thanks for clearing this up!
No problem. Thanks for watching 🙌🏼
good video, however i felt it was all over the place. I think it'd be awesome if you did an AF video about each different AF story. DBAF IS pretty much a cluster of fan stories and art, but there is different AF authors i think you can dive into separately instead of as one.
Thanks for watching 😄 maybe in another video
Some people today won’t know how hype it was finding about AF and constantly looking into it to see if it was real or not.
Searching up super Saiyan 100 like a damn IG meme
I remember fondly the halcyon days of looking at Dragon Ball AF content and viewing it as though it were an official property despite knowing the truth. I didn't care (and still don't) because honestly it was cool to see the passion that these fans were exuding and I was happy to be a part of the fandom. I will look you dead in the eye and tell you that this era was more magical and far more heartfelt than Super could ever hope to be.
💯 facts fully agree bro
GT may not be great but AF looks so hardcore
AF is sick!
niceeee 🔥 u explained it so well
Thanks bro! Appreciate it 👊🏽
I was just like you, when I saw the image of that SSJ5 Goku, I was thinking that Dragon Ball AF series was coming out after Dragon Ball GT. But after months of seeing images, came across sites stating it’s not coming nor were those images from the creators. Basically moved on knowing it wasn’t gonna happen.
Such a defeating time in our lives as young dragon ball fans 😂
You forgot to mention that Toyble is Toyotaro, the current Dragon Ball Super artist. And that the original SS5 picture wasn't even Goku
Thanks for the info!
Okay, now I want to know who that is then
@Zero1 ZeroLast That's already answered in the comments
Dragon ball AF kept dragon ball alive throughout the 17 years of no dragon ball💪
🔥🔥🔥 let's give a hand to AF 🙌🏼
Fun fact: TablosAF (author of the Dragon Ball AF origins manga) created the famous SSJ5. A Brazilian magazine used it for some reason, maybe for the April Fool day. The SSJ5 wasn't even Goku. He was supposed to be the whis of the series. Training both Goku and Vegeta.
That's so interesting! That would have been lit if it continued in that direction
i read that the character is Tablos and was not created by Young Jiji
@@AaronAlert77 I heard on the interview he did really made it. And how got upset that Toyo used his character to get famous. Even hates the DBSuper himself due to Toyo directions that he is leading the series. So some people really believe that Toyo made SSJ5 and not Young JiJi. But honestly I did too before he came out public with it.
@@slasher1016 the creator is Tablos not young jijii or toyotarou … they stole his idea & got famous & never gave him credit
@@solokingniquedagamer oh Yeah you're right. I looked back and did some research. It is in fact Tablos who made the SSJ5 design in 1998.
7:28, "We can't forget the fusions, and some of these fusions were downright crazy!"
Me: Crazy fusions, huh? So maybe a (now) Grandpa Gohan fused with LSSJ Broly to fight some new threat? Or maybe a double fusion- 2 potara fused characters using the fusion dance? Or maybe some fenale saiyans?
Video: "Here are some *crazy* transformations called Vegito and Gogeta!!"
Wow, such crazy! Never would've guessed 2 characters named after the original MC would also have the same names when fused!
Honestly was hoping to hear about some of the AF inspired works, such ss Dragonball Absalom, or the muktiversal tournament that had different timelines fight, or even parody elements such as Gohan Blanco or Jiren's brother.
Still enjoyed the video, just 2 things that came to mind.
Thanks for watching 😄
With regard to where the rumor of the original Dragon Ball AF came from, the image of "Super Saiyan 5 Goku" appeared as a fan work by David Montiel Franco in the Spanish magazine Hobby Consolas. Derek Padula learned in an interview with Franco that the character was, in fact, never Goku, but his own character Tablos, who lives in a future timeline in which Goku has already died. I learned by interviewing Franco that the form Tablos used was not Super Saiyan 5, but a unique transformation known as Spirit Killer. Hope that information helps fill in some holes in how AF originally came to be! (Also, in Franco's original work, AF was an abbreviation for Alternate Future.)
Thanks for dropping that 💎
What's funny about this the rumours were alive in 2009 when I was in middle school.
One of my classmates said AF is false and the new dragon ball will be dbs, s for super and it's about Goku reaching godhood and merging it with super saiyan for more power.
This lad was so close to reality it's stuck in my mind for the rest of my life even though we laughed at him back then.
HAHA man's a fortune teller
Headcannon that AF stands for DragonBall As Fuck
🤣 badass name
I thought these were teasers for dragonball super back in the day. Didn't know it was its own thing. Cool
Ya crazy. But it eventually led to super, same main creator 🤯
I feel like we will get AF concepts more and more since Toyotaro is behind the manga lol 😂
Ya like MUI is low-key a clean shaven ssj5 🤣
Black Frieza most likely pays homage to Young Jiji’s ‘Lord Ize’
@@OriginalxNitex yes I was tellin folks this
Dang this was a great video. Thanks bro 👍
No problem, thanks for watching bro!
I wish we've gotten a gt style ssj5
That would be amazing. There's still hope
I hope someone does bring that idea either to live or by db hero's
I remember these pics when I was 7 and now I’m 20 and I also remembered watching episode 1-3 lmooo
Yooo that's crazy bro. Times flies
Fun cool fact: Toriyamas current successor and long-time illustrator and designer toyotorou created dragon ball af
Yep pretty sick
Man. So many good times back in the day. I would. Come home from school and mindlessly browse the internet for AF content. It was the only thing I searched on the internet as I wasn't yet aware of its other capabilities.
Jeez the good ole' days! Thanks for watching
I can explain it in 2 words
"non canon"
😂
Omg...
Arguing with people trying to tell them AF wasn't real in the early 2000s used to annoy me to no end.
Shun the non believers 😂
When the fans writ a better story than the studio
Right!? They coulda used some of this in super
Dragon ball AF is the ultimate fantasy of fan service and we love it
And we got db super which is pathetic.
Right? There was so much potential for more
@@KingKasper exactly💯 Buh lazy designs, recolor, and goofy characters, no seriousness
That's your pathetic opinion lol
I remember when it was 2014 and I’ve just finished watching Dragon Ball GT with my lil brother so we went up to TH-cam and started watching Dragon Ball AF together thinking it was real.
Yo thats sick haha
Back then I didn't know that Dragon Ball AF was fan made material. I thought it was the real deal. I mean the aesthetics of super saiyan 5 were out of this world.
Facts this form looked crispy
9:04 YO! That Goku art style is WAY superior than every single episode of Dragon Ball Super
🤣
This video brought back some good memories
Glad it connected with you! DB AF was such a mysterious series at first. Wish it comes to official fruition some day! Thanks for watching 😄
The person behind the canon dragon ball/dragon ball super franchise created this. wow.
0:53 I got those exact figurines for my ninth birthday back in 2011. And I loved them! 😊
Yo haha sick
I remember seeing that pic in a beckett magazine for dbz.
Thanks for watching
@@KingKasper your welcome
I think you forgot to mention Toyble was Toyotarou and ofc we all know what he ended up being able to do. Great video non the less
Thanks for watching 😄
@@KingKasper Thank you for taking the time to make this!
I first watches dragon ball z in the late 90's in Mexico. My older cousin used to watch it all the time so I would too. When I got older in the mid 2000's I rediscovered it, I remember watching GT after I finished Z. Then I I wanted more and would constantly search pictures of ssj5 and 6 and so on. I was obsessed with it, AF was something that eluded me but I constantly saw pictures on Google and anywhere else I found. Dragon Ball really got me into Anime when at the time it wasn't cool to watch it. NARUTO and Bleach were my havens back then.
Yo totally identify with your story! Anime in the 90s was low key hated on in the main stream internationally but the real ones knew it was good! Bleach and Naruto were also my favs back then! Can't wait for TYBW arc in a few weeks
I remember seeing SS5 Goku and all kind of stuff like that, but I didn't know about AF.
Glad you found this video! Thanks for watching 😄
Keep it up on your work and this video and channel
Thanks so much for supporting!!!
I remember limewire and morpheus, downloading as many dbz clips as I could, and I came across some of these weird AF ones. Pretty awesome character designs
Yo LIMEWIRE was 🐐😂🔥
Only real ones remember Morpheus lol. Never met anyone else who used it
The story I knew back in the early 2000's was that Dragon Ball AF was set after the GT series. But then my elder brother said "AF stands for April Fish, it is not real".
To this day, I don't know where he took this information and how he knew that back then.
🤣 man's a legend
Still can't believe Goku DID IT while in SSJ 5 form and with A GODDESS. Talking about how Xicor was born SSJ5
Man's a savage
@@KingKasper man's cultured
There were many versions of it. I remember reading those manga chapters on Facebook
Throwback to the glory days of dragon ball
Do a video on dragon ball AF by young ji ji. I own some of the books, but haven't gotten passed a certain part. You featured one of the volumes at 0:22 but didn't tell its story as well.
Interesting, I'll take that into consideration! Thanks for watching 😄
Mad…that AF picture just took me back 22 years to when I was 10 and my life was just school and DBZ. Haven’t seen that pic in years 😮😮😮
Simpler times man! Truly the golden age of childhood
Whoever drew that first drawing deserves their flowers
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
I love the SSJ5 design till this day. That is what Super Sayian God transformation should've been.
Facts 🔥
can you make a video about the ultra ego because everyone wants to see it in the anime and not only the manga!
Can do!
Edit: I originally posted this on Saiyan Scholar's channel on the video titled "Why MUI makes no sense". Please enjoy this tiny excerpt.
Fun fact: Toyotaro aka Toyble was the one who proposed the idea of a new transformation after Akira Toriyama brought SSG into the mix. Before being hired by Toei, Toyotaro as Toyble was writing and drawing his own line of DBAF fan manga. Which is a direct continuation of DBGT, Goku had attained a new form in the Dragon Realm. A new form that dwarfed Full Power SSJ4 and even surpasses SSJ4 Gogeta by leagues above. However in order to attain SSJ5 one has to completely empty himself and have full control of their emotions otherwise the power of SSJ5 would literally crush and explode the wielder of such tremendous power which coincidently mirrors Ultra Instinct.
Fun fact: Toyotaro aka Toyble ran with the whole mantra of SSJ5 because of that infamous SSJ5 fan art by David Montiel Franco, who came out years later to say that's not Goku. His name is Tablos, a random unknown saiyan who miraculously survived the destruction of planet Vegeta. Who vigorously trained to attain a power that would surpass all known gods without God Ki. 🤔 Hmmm sounds like the archetype to Jiren as well, a being that's stronger than his God of Destruction Belmont. So yeah, absolute legend Toyotaro and David Montiel Franco.
Edit: So yeah. The fandom had a God form before it was even a thing and in the mind of Akira Toriyama.
Edit: So in essence Toyotaro and Akira Toriyama took notes from DBGT and DBAF and adapted to DBS. Especially the UI White Angelic hair, because SSJ5 is white greyish shiny hair.
Edit: Toyotaro is the one who drew and brought into existence the Gods of Destruction. For example Lord Lood served as the inspiration for the God of Destruction Mosco. Funny enough Lord Lood is referred as a God of Destruction.
Edit: Let's not forget and give Young Jiji's a shout out for his incredible works of art and expanding the lore of DBAF content.
Edit: Now we have Mondo Cool, Unrealentgaming and CALLMEARJ and countless others writing and drawing new DBAF fan manga, DBS fan manga and alternate time-line fan manga. Absolutely breathtaking 😍.
Edit: Let's not forget DB Multiverse was born out of the whole DBAF fanaticism. God bless 🙌 to the community for continuing the saga when big corporations have remained anemic.
Cheers 🍻
Thanks for sharing
@@KingKasper You're welcome 😊
I remember owning a budokai 3 mod , which was supposed to be "DBAF" , it started off with Hatchiyak and had the cool ss5
transformation , and some other moded characters.
That's dope bro. I loved those video games back in the day
Good video I remember it as a shorty thinking it was gone come out
Same bruh! It's a shame it didn't
@@KingKasper facts but super and the movies that been coming out are pretty dope especially gohan new form
Also is it jus me bro or was u not a fan of dbz Kai I really prefer the original version wit the intense ass music that made it rsuspenseful
Awesome video and explanation 🤩
Thanks so much 😃
Its so magnificent that the fans went from making stickers and drawings to now making their own animation’s
Lots of it 🤣
Ikr
That ssj5 drawing is canon in my heart
So am I
Same 🔥
Haha yes
I was waiting for it to drop growing up too
FACTS
One thing to note is just how murky the actual continuity of Dragon Ball was in the early 2000s. The internet wasn't what it was today, the only official DBZ website at the time just had a few bios for characters up to the Cell saga, and there wasn't really a single message board that was where most of the fans congregated. GT wasn't mentioned by official sources in the US, so we were all just going off of screencaps and promotional material. The most high profile thing I remember was a magazine called Beckett DBZ collector, an unofficial magazine that had articles, fan art, community news, posters, some truly heinous covers made in a blocky 3D style, and in the spring time, April Fool's pranks. If you got ahold of the issue that "confirmed" Dragonball AF without reading the editor's notes, AF was just as real as GT, or even the Buu saga, in our eyes.
It's difficult to describe just how powerful those middle school rumors were before you could fact check everything you heard as soon as you got home. Pictures of Sonic in Super Smash Bros Melee, Super Saiyan 5 Goku, and Pokemon vs. YuGiOh had a vice grip on us kids.
Yoooo those were the days! Lurking the internet for images of stuff like sonic and smash Bros was so fun! It added a mystery to our favorite franchises that I don't think we can ever get back with the advancement of the internet. Thanks for bringing this up!
Vegito JR IS SO CUTE
🤣 shoutout to vegito jr
Yoshaaaaaa
The 2 am wormhole of endless transformations you had super sayian 45 😂😂
LMAO ssj transformations are endless
Holy shit I haven’t thought about this in years! I remember 10 year old me would search all over TH-cam for episodes and theories about this😂
😂 dragon ball AF really had fans looking like addicts
Thanks for explained this DB-AF, really never know what it is. I'm born 80s, really focus in DB & DBz only 😅.
🦧 Super Saiyan 6, 1st time i saw & heard about it. 😅
🦧 Who the heck is that white ape, idk either. 😅
Super Saiyan so darn advanced now, the heck idk ... 😜
Old man like me do really have to catch up (like a lot). 😁
Haha no problem! Thanks for watching glad you enjoyed it
The vegito jr fusion (adult) looked clean with the headband
This series would have been tough if it saw an official release
God i remember when the og drawing started floating around the internet and we all started losing our minds. This and gt are why you have so many people divided on new dbz content. A lot of fans loved seeing more saiyan forms, then we got crayon god forms.
HAHA crayon god is so on the money
Imagine drawing a fan art and going on to working on your favorite anime!
So nuts! It was fate
Definitely felt the “Damn! When is this shit gonna drop!?”
Ya they had us all played!
Beast Gohan now looks like one of these Dragon Ball AF creations
Ya he does!
“Don’t you know nameks can rejuvenate themselves from a single cell?” 💀
😆
I remember seeing vegetrunks on my aunty’s old computer that shit was hard af
🤣 bro those were the days
Thanks you for your video and channel
Appreciate you're support 👊🏽
I kept looking up Dragon ball AF but I didn't know what it was, I thought it was something Toriama was working on but eventually I realized it was fan art
We all got bamboozled
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One of the authors of a popular DBAF manga series, Toyble, was hired and eventually the main artist for the DBS manga
Yep so crazy