I LOVE 10MM!
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- 10mm rocks, especially when you get your hands on some real 10mm loads like those from Underwood Ammo. We take a look at several 10mm loads, talk about the history a bit then do some testing. I think you're going to like this!
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9 for the hoods and 10 for the woods
nice
That's a much cooler way of saying what I've been saying ever since I learned about 10mm a few years ago.
9mm for the hoods 12 gauge for the woods
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10 defensive load for the hoods
10 hunting round for the woods
Do you know what sucks more than 40 S&W? Manufacturers selling 10mm loaded down to 40 S&W at 10mm prices.
No SHIT !!!!! I LUV ME SOME 10MM👍 I HAFTA PAY ALMOST $30 A BOX OF 50 !! THAT'S STUPID !!
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THIS^^^
Sig makes 1250FPS 180 FMJ thats not badly priced. I bought and shot a ton of it. Definitely real 10mm
The true is the 40 was created because most, and I mean most agents failed the shooting tests. all struggled with the 10mil specially female agents.
You done your homework, very detailed video, thank you.
I think the size of the Smith 1076 was more of a problem than the cartridge, since the FBI only ever issued the watered-down version of the 10, but still in the large gun. Essentially the .41 Magnum story, twenty years later; have to have a big gun for the big cartridge, no matter the power level of the specific load.
"We're all stunning and brave because we bring equality and equity to public defense"
Me: You FAILED the range test.
They had to dumb it down for you because you COULDN'T.
You've made the public LESS safe in the name of virtue signaling because the FBI leadership couldn't look past their egos and political agendas.
That is the same reason they abandoned the 40.
Just got a Glock 20 today, super happy to have one finally!
Me too is fun to shoot with a little kink over the 9
10mm - Because shooting twice is just silly.
Eat me
10mm
Because shooting something twice is just expensive
salmon taco wow so original
blackburn are ALL the keyboards sticky (w hobo semen) at the library?
MAXIMUM GUN, MAXIMUM CAPACITY.
The 10mm is making a comeback. We love the 10mm!!
Just bought a 10 mm today, loving it so far
No you didn’t
@@GAMRMNTS2 He did
I carry a G27 .40 all day everyday but there’s a G20 10mm loaded with underwood within reach. Love my 10mm!
Lesson to be learned- don't listen to FBI standards....
Correct. It led to the abortion that is the 40.
And now the FBI is back to the wondernine. Never change a winning combo.
dont listen to the Fbi period,,, lying Deep State turds that need to be flushed
The Test Protocols of the FBI are quite useful . It's the FBI's Interpretations that I frequently shake my head .
@reesej123 Russell ( Almost choking on the irony ,as I am rather outspoken for NOT being obsessed with penetration .)
The * Individual * FBI test protocols are each useful in the individual context that each measures . Once again not necessarily the FBI's promogulated minimums and maximums , but as a relative measure , with a degree of relevance to actual penetration .
Back in the '80s when they were developed , the FBI test*S* were Not intended to be routinely applied in total as a group . They were intended to be a smorgasbord to pick and chose only those tests of relevance and importance for their situation and requirements , and disregard the others . So in your example , concentrate upon reaults for bare and clothed gel , and little to none on auto glass and sheet metal.
I may well be a statistical freak , but I do know people who engaged in gunfight with felons inside stopped to slowly moving vehicle . ( Yes , as civillian in USA)
No , rifles are NOT universal with LE among the rank & file . Approaching parity with widespread patrol shotguns , but still far less than majority of patrol or front line detectives have imeadate access to any long gun .
We need some wolf 10mm folks... The mark of a truly successful caliber is being available by the crate from Russia
It's coming soon. But don't expect it to be cheap.
Prvi Partizan
@@Trumplican Wolf will make it cheap, but it won't be a full power 10mm cartridge. It'll be a plinker round.
@@timhallas4275 As long as it sends a 180gr bullet 1,100 fps, that's plenty for range fodder. Not like you're using Wolf for hunting or carry anyhow. Heck, 170gr at a little more like PPU would be fine too.
Sig ammo has some kick if you need it, but it's expensive. Magtech/S&B are inexpensive and close to full power, about 90% if I were to assign a numerical score (based on the Norma figures).
@@Kattbirb I'm not a big fan of the "range" circuit. I have a target in my basement that I use to keep my skill honed. Seven or ten rounds, once or twice a week, and i am ready to perform. Shooting cheap, under-powered ammo for practice makes no sense to me, unless that is what you plan to use for defensive shooting. Practice with low power rounds, then reload with full power rounds and your follow up shots will be all over the place. I have learned over the years, that you carry exactly what you practice with, and you practice with exactly what you plan to carry.
Love the 10 and the 40. Hell I like anything that goes boom. Great video.
In order to show my friends how much more powerful a 10mm is over their 9mm. I made separate tables for all of Underwood's 9mm and 10mm. At the bottom of the FPS and FtLb columns I told MS Excel to average the column. Well, it was a bigger surprise than I anticipated. The 10mm was almost 2X the 9mm average.
I'd love to see the CZ scorpion come out in 10mm that'd be badass!
Tony Arnott That's the only reason I'd buy a pcc/sbr anymore. I've owned some in 9mm (scorpion, kel tec sub 2k, hi point 995 and beretta cx4) and they all shoot great but imo they don't offer too much over a normal pistol. Plus they're actually pretty boring at the range at least for me lol! Now if any of those ever came out in 10mm I'd buy it 1) because I do love pcc's, and 2) because 10mm :-)
blowback not good for 10mm full powa
John Smith just put a foregrip and a folding brace on it if the recoil is too much to handle
Kriss makes a 10mm of you didn't know lol cause I'm a year late to the party
Maaaan, I love this channel. Compared to your earlier videos, your personality has really come out much more, and your content is so much more fun and light hearted than it used to be. Keep up the good work; we all love it.
Love the 10 and became a 40 fan because the 40 became the "special" to my "magnum". I discovered quickly that I could buy cheaper 40 and run it in my Glock 20 and 29 for practice.
Gunner So you can shoot 10 mm out of a 40 Glock ?
@@jag3217 No, you can't because 10mm is way longer then .40
Jag 321 you can shoot .40s&w from a 10mm
@Aniquin You mean .40 pistol loaded with 10mm? He asked about that situation.
@@MrMultiWilk 40cal glock or glock 40. Glock40 is a 10mm.
The 9mm round you're talking about entered the arm, severing the brachial artery, collapsed a lung, nicked the aorta and stopped just short of the heart. That's the most you can ask for with a 9mm.
Not being shot back at after hitting said perp isn't too much to ask IMO.
@@mikehammer7247 I dont think you have read the comment carefully.
"The 9mm round you're talking about ..."
@@hannibalburgers477 I don't think you're very bright. Did you read this carefully?
@@mikehammer7247 I don't think you are very bright.
Did you read carefully?
@@mikehammer7247 Not "today", "wide variety" of bullets always existed.
He is talking about how that specific bullet was succesful. Either read the comment again or watch the video.
Illuminate yourself 150 IQ edgelord.
You're absolutely right thank God someone had the Courage to come out and say it you're doing great work
40 Smith & Wesson sucks
I like 9mm, .40 SW, and .45acp. I own firearms chambered in each, I like them all, and they are all effective.
Our rural Sheriff's Office carries 10 mm. They love it.
I know this is over 5 years old so no one will see this, but definitely a great teacher. I have learned alot for you.
10mm fan here. It is the most useful auto caliber around. I can put in hot, Norma-spec loads for field/woods carry, or I can download the power for SD carry around town. One gun, one holster, one trigger, one set of mags, one manual of arms. My current favorite is a Dan Wesson Razorback, but there are others in my past, and my future (is the Witness Polymer Match here yet?).
Thanks, MAC!!!! Great video! Glad to see another 10mm lover out there!
And the most powerful auto round as far as i know.
Anything faster or heavier is gimmicky
10mm Auto is so underrated these days, it's pretty much considered a hipster caliber now... Which's sad.
I know it's sad. I'm a big fan of Magnum revolver cartridges but I also enjoy shooting and reloading 45 ACP +P, 45 Super and 460 Rowland. I enjoy shooting powerful ammunition whether it be pistol or revolver cartridges.
What's hurting the 10mm is plastic (polymer if that makes plastic sound less cheap...) pistols and a lack of AFFORDABLE steel frame firearms chambered for that caliber. Another problem is lack of 10mm ammo "on the shelf" that isn't expensive tartet/plink ammo which doesn't perform any better than warm 40 S&W.
TOBORE8THMAN It's said that Glock 20 handles the full power 10mm auto rounds like a champ, though.
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Glock marketing and fanboys will claim that because it's essentially the only affordable option available to shoot 10mm. Most 10mm glock-o-holics know enough to install stronger recoil springs and in many cases replace the factory barrel with an aftermarket unit that will allow them to shoot hardcast bullets with some degree of accuracy.
The UNDERWOOD that Mac was using is cheaper than most of the "off the shelf" "weak" 10mm you find in stores! At least the FMJ and the older style Hollow Points are reasonable... Starting around $.60/rd
MEH... I have one, and the Buffalo Bore 220gr Hardcast Lead was a real handful out of the comped barrel...
I bought an LWD 6.6" barrel, it shots better than the compensated barrel, and less perceived recoil! Better, but I still want to add weight somewhere to te gun. It is a real fl-weight @ 29 ounces, unloaded
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10mm is an amazing round. I wish more manufacturers would make more 10mm guns
That Federal American Eagle 10mm is loaded to 40 S&W specifications.
Kinda what I was thinking.
Mac, I love this video! This is one of my favorite videos that you made!
One of your best videos, Tim! Laughed out loud, and learned a thing or two about 10mm... A great round, for sure, and like you, I've never liked the .40 Smith and Wesson round. Thanks for a fun and informative video!
Voila, It's now 2021 and 40 short and weak is withering on the vine while 10mm is going stronger than ever!! I have a gen 4 G20 and I love it. I load for it and am deeply grateful that it takes large pistol primers in these difficult days. Thanks for the enjoyable and instructive video
i recall when that all went down. 10mm is my hands down favorite handgun load. rock island has a nice double stack that i own and now looking at springfield xdm 10mm.
Just picked up my RIA double stack today….. one mag and I am in love.
Tell me more about that RIA, how's the finish hold up over time? Any rust issues? How's the reliability? Is it picky with ammo? Does it feel like a brick in the hand?
When I leave the vault in 40 years, I will grab that round.
Brian Langieri Thumbs up again for that profile pic. TWD MAGA
The 10mm is my favorite caliber . It is a magnum cartridge in a semi auto when you buy the good factory ammo. Deer and hog worthy. Uncle Ted swears by the 10mm.
Hogs and deer is the only reason I want one. I know people hate in High Point but for a woods gun, in 10 mil it is perfect.
Durable, reliable, devastating to animals and all parts are cheap and easy replaceable. As to exspense of ammo. If it is your disgnated Deer & Hog gun and your only hunting for meat not eritication, great set up.
Life time Warrenty and proven platform for 300 to 400 dollars. If they mode it for Glock mags, game over.
The reason I bought one is so I can mag dump in case a bear charges me while hunting. You can catch me walking the woods with it strapped gi style to my chest👌
rebel yell
Yes, I approve. Lol
Just came home with a Glock 20, a 10mm found a good home!
I have Gen 3 20c. Love it.
Would u care conceal care
Me too I got the Glock 20 it's a great gun it was me for that round Handel's the heavy rounds with no problems
Didn't the glock 20 have problems with one of the models where it was exploding in people's hands, I wanna say it was one of there earlier gens?
For a time, I carried the S&W 1006 as my choice of duty weapon as a LEO. Fell head over Heels nuts in love with it. Powerful, accurate, Devastating with proper ammo.
I have the ONLY 10MM pistol at my range in Belgium, love the cartridge!
Really? How is Belgium on gun rights? I've never heard anything in it.
It's restrictive but if you really want it you can get guns here through whats called a sports shooters licence. There's a theory and malfunction clearance test involved to get one but it's pretty easy. Once you get your permanent licence you can get any shotgun, bolt action rifle you want. Handguns and semi automatic weapons require approval from the governour but all of my requests have been approved so far so no trouble there. Storage is a given, keep away from kids and remove any component making the gun incapable of firing (removing the slide on a handgun and placing it separate suffices,removing the bolt on a bolt action and taking apart the upper and lower half of a 2 barrel shotgun placing them separately) Suppressors are illegal here though, reasoning is beyond me but, well, it is what it is.
Wow I'm surprised. Seems much less restrictive than other places in Europe. Obviously it is not nearly as liberal as it is here in the U.S. Do you think your system is better than ours? I personally would side with less government involvement like we have here.
+Daelkyr Well I wouldn't say better. We can't carry anything in public, only from and to the gun range. If someone breaks into my property and doesn't carry a gun I'm not allowed to use my gun even as a deterrent unless he uses physical violence in which case, thr judge decides if it actually was a viable last resort option, if he thinks it isn't, I'd get my shit stolen AND prison+ lifetime ban from owning and even shooting firearms. There are no national competitions aside from clay pidgeon shooting. But at least politicians are trying to get self defence gun ownership more accepted by the general ignorant sheeple here.
Interesting. Are they trying to get better self defense laws because of the recent attack you guys faced by those animals?
Here in Texas if someone comes onto your property after dark without permission then you are fully able to kill them. Whether they pose a threat or not. And you are immune to being brought to civil court.
We also have Stand Your Ground. Where if you reasonably believe you are in grave danger you have no duty to retreat and can use lethal force.
FBI: We don't want to use 10mm because we don't want to stop our threats...we want them to do the funky chicken as we swiss cheese them to death.
That's police training. Stuff the baddies full of rounds until they're weighed down by the lead
+IBT98 I know, I've seen it happen. Doesn't mean I can't joke
Brandon Snow Well, looks like I poked a hole in your point....
actually they don't want to use firearms at all, read everyone's private documents online, and just look the other way when elite people ignore laws like Killery. They'll call in the HRT if they need someone dealt with.
Jabber Wookie Conspiracy theorists -_-
I think 10mm is one of those rounds that would benefit significantly from a long barrel.
If you look at muzzle velocity charts the 10mm gets a significant increase with a 12In barrel and the weight would probably make the recoil more manageable...
I would love to see a Uzi or a barretta cx4 in 10 mm. You are right , it would take level 3 armor to stop it.
Cmmg banshee.
@@davidjakiela9553 honestly a 6"barrel 10mm with extreme PENETRATOR rounds will pull rounds through pistol rated armor and bpg like it's not even there.
The FBI did. They loaded this cartridge in the HK MP5/10. Basically a 10mm MP5, which is an AMAZING weapon system.
@@EasyBakinX that’s why I didn’t cheap out on my armor like I was going to🤷♂️ I have level 4 front and back and i think it just below that 3a sides. Keep that under the bed never know when it could come in handy
The .40 in its true loaded potential is an awesome cartridge, 155@1300 FPS ( Underwood ) Now the 10mm in its true potential is outstanding in the SA platform
For sure. I don't even load to the max listed by Hodgdon for Longshot and push a 180 gr bullet to 1190 fps out of my Glock 23. I also have a load with a 200 grain hard cast WFNGC that does 1020 fps with an extremely wide meplat.
Stop referring to it as .40, guy. I get that it's .40 caliber, but 10mm and .40 S&W are not even in the same league! We don't refer to 10mm by its .40 caliber designation.
Or go for liberty civil D in 90@2400fps.
There are gel tests on TH-cam... hits harder than a .223...
Used to like .40 S&W... Until I discovered the 10mm... Then I can truly say my eyes were opened to awesomeness.
Also I like how you only wore a glove to touch the .40 S&W.
I am one of your subscribers so I watch a ton of your videos, but this one was super cool. Thanks for posting MAC.
Thank you for the continued support.
I carried the 1006 for a few years. It's the full size big brother to the 1076. I've always loved the 10mm. I handload 99% of my 10's now cause it's so dang expensive. The factory stuff is too watered down anyway. I run Corbon 135gr classic JHP in the 3rd gen model 20 I carry now. Huge cavity for a 135 and they expand everytime. Underwood is the only company that still loads full house 10mm. I think DoubleTap does but some have said it's iffy as far as consistency. Buffalo Bore loads some decent full house 10mm. Like yourself, I love the 10mm for it's performance and it's versatility for hunting, bullseye/silhouette shooting, and it's defensive versatility. I carry my 3rd gen model 20 appendix 365 days a year. You can't beat it for a defensive pistol. just my opinion. Some think I'm crazy to carry such a large frame high cap gun for cc, but it's not as bad as people make a full size pistol out to be. Great video MAC. Maybe the 10 will come back around. The Corbon Pow'Rball in 10mm is a nice carry load. The silver or blue glaser are some mean rounds. Check out the Magsafe rounds if you get a chance. You want to talk about speed and smack. Anyways, thanks for keepin' the 10 alive. It would be awesome to see some gel test. :)
I couldn't have said it better myself. I also carry a Glock 20Sf as a duty firearm. I reload 10mm as well.
EDC Glock 20 with handloaded 125grs Barnes TAC XP. LOVE ist!
AustrianJager The Barnes xp's are decent. I prefer a lead core bullet for carry. Federal makes a bonded soft point that makes for a mean carry bullet with certain powders. I usually load them with Alliant 2400 or Blue Dot. A lot of new powders out now days for big gains in velocity. IMR 800-x is hands down the best powder for 10mm full house loads. I've pushed 180gr bullets over 1400 fps out of a Glock 20 factory barrel and right at 1400 in a factory length lone wolf barrel. The 10mm doesn't get the praise it deserves. Good to see another 10mm fan.
So I was thinking today before watching this and now I'm certain of it kel-tec needs a sub-2000 in 10mm with glock mags
Nah screw the glock mags, I'll happily take proprietary if it means double stack-double feed.
@@someweeb3650 yeh but glock already makes 10mm double stack mags with large capacity
@@dobber43 Double stack single feed. That's why they're a bitch to load and why the 9mm ones aren't going to be as reliable as even something like an original WW2 SMG magazine.
Love the 10mm! And this vid should be in your "Best Of Tim" series. Ty.
The rubber glove on the one hand at the beginning got me good. Holy hell
Most of the FBI agents in that shoot out had revolvers chambered in .38 Special.
And they were using non-controlled expansion hp ammo which made things even worse. They would have been better off using 130gr fmj .38 mil-spec in that car battle.
And one was blind as a bat with out his glasses, which he lost in the shoot out
No , they were carrying .357 * chambered * revolvers . But the FBI policies of the day were that the revolvers were default used with the issued .38 +P , and .357 could only be used with permission of the supervisor , only for a specific operation .
@@filianablanxart8305 The 3" S&W Model 13 was designed for them. Postal Service cops coukd get them as well
Two of the Agents actually had S&W 59’s, which were 15rd-9mm’s, but they must’ve been loaded with the W-W Silver Tip rounds that they were complaining about lacked stopping power/penetration.
Very informative video as always. Thanks for your videos as they have helped me with many of my purchase decisions.
Just scored a Gen 3 model 20 this week. Now if I could only find some ammo.
There every where I liv
Got lucky scored 1000 rounds for my Glock 20 last week
Do yourself a favor….start reloading. I haven’t bought a single thing during this latest panic. While others are scrambling to find bullets, I’ve reloading and shooting like always. I can load my 10mm for about 20¢ a round with premium components.
@@bigbore4498 the place i get my ammo is S.W. reloading supply. He finally got some in. I asked about reloading he said the components are damn near just as hard to find
@@ericspencer4599 They are hard to fine in some places. But you don’t want to buy everything all at once anyways. I probably have $4k in my set up. Not including my components. It seems like a lot. But I reload like 20 something calibers from 9mm-44mag and 223 to 375H&H. If all you have is one or two calibers, or only shoot occasionally, it might not be worth it unless you just enjoy it (which I do). In some calibers like 9mm, I don’t save a ton of money. Others I save a crap ton. The real advantage is being able to make premium quality ammo specifically tailored to my firearm to produce the absolute best accuracy (consistency), and never running out of, or having to search for ammunition in times like these. So, when everything calms down, and it will, you should consider it. But don’t buy anything right now. Prices are too high to reasonably justify it.
Great video!! I've been impressed with my 10mm...just did a test of it on simulated grizzly bear flesh. 10mm is popular here in Alaska nowdays...
First time watcher. Love the show buddy. Good job and informative
My glock has never jammed through thousands of rounds until I put Winchester USA forged through it
I bought that same pack and didn’t realize I got steel case till I got home. Fortunately, my XDm fed it all without any malfunctions.
@Skeeter G-19 lol you mean sigs that cost exactly the same as glocks ? XD and are u.s manufactured now? And are the official side arm of the u.s marines and military?
@@appalachianexploration5714 they literally had a bunch of issues with the guns after the chose to go with the SIG contract...main reason they picked it was because it was cheaper, not that it was better in anyway.
Some steel cased stuff will also pull extractors off , it happened to my model 3904 Smith 9 millimeter
10MM pistol or .357 revolver? Hmm I'll take both :)
Both have almost same ballistics
@@indranilghosh3635 depends on barrel and load
.. Out of snubby 357 has ballistics of a 9mm easy
Back in the day the FBI made some test to determine what calibers were most effective in causing wounds and they determined it was the 357 magnum and 45 acp (which makes sense, back in the day not as much great bullet/cartridge designs and the 45 always expanded the most even till today and 357 always penetrated the most even up till today also). Later on the 10mm was made and it had the best of both worlds, it gave great penetration and expansion. While also having supersonic velocity and tons of energy which is good in hollow point ammo for putting at least a little impact on the threat letting them know they’v been shot and possibly throwing them off their best performance mentally if they are shooting also. Good 10mm ammo penetrates more than a 40 s&w (and 40’s penetrate well enough already) and expand to about 0.80 which is really amazing, underwood makes that type of ammo with gold dots and if im not mistaken federal also makes one similar (heard some good stuff about the 10mm winchester brands also but not sure).
kirk west That myth has been disproven by several different youtubers already trust me. 357 mag out of at least a 3 inch barrel performs even better than 9mm out of a 4 inch barrel when using similar weights and brand and bullet design, we are talking same diameter as the 9mm but more velocity and energy and penetration. Not even 357 sig compares to real 357 magnum ammo. If you have seen different than its because the weights and brand of ammo and bullet design was not on equal playing field.
@@Omar-if1cu when i say snubbie i mean 2".. So much velocity loss you need to go with lighter gr bullets....5 shots from my sp101 158g less than 1100fps or my sig p365 (10 rounds) of 147 at 1000fps
Make 10mm popular again!
You may be the coolest person alive. Love this vid!
Double Tap makes some hot 10mm rounds.
I really liked this episode. I was laughing quite a bit! It was absolutely great! Entertaining and great information.Thanks again for another great share video! Have a great one and thanks for a great laugh! I needed it!
Great information packed video man. 10mm is the way to go!
10mm, when you care enough to send the very best.
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snappy. luv it.
I love it
The maximum gun for maximum capacity.
10mm is a shitty service round, for the same reason as the .357 SIG. Way too rough to handle reasonably. .40 S&W kicks both 9mm and .45 ACP in the ass in regards to contact pressure.
glock 20 and 29. both with 40sw conversion barrels.i use to pick up 40sw brass by the bag full, back when it first came out. and nobody was reloading it. free brass for life.
That was FANTASTIC! Thanks - much appreciated...
I love the fact that he is so disgusted by the .40 S&W that he put on a single glove to grab it lol
Great bits of humor in this one. Thank you for that.
This might be favorite video he's posted in quite a while. Laugh a minute.
I'm a man, but I have feelings too! I like my 10mm AND my .40. Seriously tho, really great video.
Gonagain
jmalcolmg123 but a compromise.
@jmalcolmg123 I agree
@@2bituser569 everything about a firearm is a compromise, as per Gun Jesus's teachings.
Videos like this are why i love this channel so much 👍
Glad to see 10mm ammo prices has come way down, I now have more guns in 10mm than 40s&w
President Underwood personally approve of this ammo.
I'm really starting to want a 10mm. Good job on this video👍🇺🇸
Damn, you handle 10mm recoil like a champ! 🇺🇸
The great thing about .40 is that when the bros leave a pile of fresh cases at the range, you can pick it up and form it into .357 SIG without having to trim.
The case overall length will be too short if you form 357 Sigg out of 40 smith and Wesson! Try it and measure it I have and it’s too short! I’m not saying it won’t work because I made it work but the case length is too short!
@@artifacthunter1472 Yeah, just a smidge, so that's why I say you don't have to trim.
Underwood, true to the original SAAMI spec 10mm Auto Norma loadings! Double Tap may be an alternative!
And Buffalo Bore and Sig ammo, I have been told.
I carried a 40 for years, just because they didn't make a 10mm that would fit my hand. Now that the XDm-10 is out, I have remedied that. And I load mine the way a 10 is supposed to be loaded. Love it!
I’ve always been a 357 Sig guy, and I love it. I have the chance to get a beautiful Colt Delta Elite Blued, and I must say I just fell in love with her ! I got Underwood 10mm 158g JHP and now I’m carrying my Colt Delta too. Live long to the 10mm !!
Thank you! Another great Video.
Try out the Underwood 10mm Extreme Penertrator, might put a whole through that 3A
This is one of my favorite videos. Thank you for the history and testing you provided. I especially appreciated you testing the 40 s&w out of a 10mm pistol.
Because of you and few other I ordered myself a 4" S&W 610.
I have watched this video about a dozen times over the past year and this alone convinced me to buy the Vector sdp in 10mm vs 9 or 45 that I am ordering tomorrow. Im super excited to have my first 10mm firearm
Personally I tried out all the calibers. 9,40,45,10mil. The 40 was the most powerful I could consistently accurately rapid fire. .45 and 10mil required "re-aiming" and popped the frame out of my "intuitive-zone". Knowwhatimean? Sure, if I doubled my practice with a larger caliber I could likely somewhat compensate for that. But as it stands, after a decade of using .40, it's my round. For my civilian use it works. If I lived in Alaska, I'd likely carry and practice with 10mil. If I lived with serious threat of multiple human attackers, or if I felt a (stronger) possibility of war, riots or revolution, it'd be a Hot 9. (Check back with me after November.) But for tweakers or muggers, I like my .40. I understand your historical reasons for disliking the .40. But it is more powerful than a 9 and more manageable than a 45 or 10m. Also, all the advancement made to improve the 9 also applies to all other caliber too... Just me....
from what I'm seeing, .357 Sig has better ballistics than .40 S&W and its a little lighter recoiling. I'm saying this as a viewer of tnoutdoors9's channel not of personal experience so take that with a grain of salt I guess.
+Robert N I don't notice any lighter felt recoil in 357 Sig. I love it, but it's very snappy.
+IBTJC 4Life OK, I haven shot .357 Sig so IDK.
I love it. 40 is cool. We used in deployments as well. Definitely got rid of those 9mm in our armory at the time. Most of us in the squadron like 10mm's, but we still revert to 40 since we only really needed them for under 15 feet during a patrol. Anything else, we had that answer around our shoulder. Hee hee. Just that 10mm price needs to drop before I can even come close to affording it. My M2.0 full size was only right above $400 with full range kit, bullets are hitting around .34 a round. I can't even find a decent box of 10mm here that isn't hitting around $43.00 a box of 50.
Great video on a versatile cartridge. This load covers all the bases, mild to wild.
MORE!! Lol. Working on a 10mm ar build we share a love for 10mm and distain for .40 s&w. But more 10mm videos are always welcome.
I just put my Glock 20 on layaway. This video really opened my eyes to a caliber that provides plenty of power without switching to 45 acp. I tested the gun before I put money down, and recoil is manageable if you practice the basics
Jared Anderson watch out what loads you use in the Glock 20. If it really starts kicking bad. Clean the barrel. I was shooting some crap I had just trying to get rid of some odd ball stuff and about blowed mine up. I went to a lone wolf 6 in barrel. It’s a little longer then then slide but that’s ok. It’s a lot more accurate also. They do have a 9 in also. Just for info. I’m not a Glock fan but it’s a cool peace. 15 rounds or hog power. I wish I had the Glock 40 that’s alright cut for the optic.
I'll take a 40 over a 9mm any day. Love both calibers have both calibers but I will always love the 40s&w. Its a good round.
Matt Gardner no just no.
.40 S&W is to 10mm what .380 ACP is to 9mm, and 9mm is to 10mm what a nail file is to a bowie knife.
@@TXLionHeart no .40s&w is to 10mm what 9mm is to .357cig and
What .38 special is to 9mm and what 7.62 is to .30-06 etc etc 😆
The list of caliber from strongest to weakest...
.500
.45
10mm
.357
.40
9mm
.38special
.380ACP
@@shanescatsandcannabisfarm2965 First of all, 357 Sig is a necked hybrid of 40 S&W; whereas 380 is more analogous to a 40 S&W given that both are shorter and weaker versions (To keep with that theme, I would've compared 7.62x39 to 7.62 NATO). Secondly, in what world is a 45 ACP "stronger" than a 10mm? Lastly, why did you pick those calibers? They seem like such random choices for such an incomprehensive list.
You're always very informative.
Bravo-Zulu! Awesome Presentation. I am happy to report that after nearly 30 years of shooting I am the Proud owner of 2 10mm pistols and will be getting a 3rd one very shortly when my FFL comes in the next few weeks. My first 2 are GLocks but my 3rd will be the Sig P220 10mm Two tone or the Legion have not decided yet it will depend on which is available.
Keep up the Great Work!
Amen. Glad it's starting to make a return and .40 is fading into the sunset
Would like to see Tim go through various ammo manufacturers and see who makes the best 10mm range ammo.(chrono testing)
I can answer that already.....it's underwood.....180gr fmj
One of the reasons for adoption by LEO’s was that the .40 S&W fits in a “standard” 9mm grip frame. (Ie - Glock 17 / 19) Our 155 grain .40 S&W issue duty load average muzzle velocity was ~ 1150 fps in a Beretta 96D Brigadier.
Thanks for answering the questions we always had 💪
I heard somewhere that a big part of the love affair with.40 was that you could get .45 power with a few more shots in the mag ... if that is the case, then the .40 owners should be happy. As far as I can tell the .40 gets practically the exact same performance as .45 - and I think you can actually load .45 a hair hotter. On the other hand, the only recorded one shot bear kills I can find anywhere were .40 S&W.
You're damn right it's a good caliber I have a G35 gen 3 brand new with 31 round magazine it just changes the game
You get basically 45 auto power with about double the ammo capacity in a normal pistol unless you get a double stack 45 but that's generally a lot bigger guns than a compact 40. 40 is a very useful cartridge
I recently traded my Glock 20 Gen3 SF .. I kinda regret doing that.. And regretted so much, I'm shopping for a new one again. It was a great handgun. All I shot was Underwood 180 and 200 gr loads. Never any issues.
G20 is my favourite gun. Great video, thank you! Best regards from Czech Republic
Nice to see the underwood 200 grain featured as I currently have over 100 rounds on hand.
I absolutely LOVE my Colt Delta Elite in 10mm....Accurate for self defense and powerful enough for a 25 yd shot on a 6 point whitetail....thank you for all the 10mm information and ballistic testing.
You should try some Buffalo bore 10mm ammo and Liberty Civil defense ammo.
Jerry Oooo I keep Liberty Civil Defense in my 10mm full size 1911 for home Defense. Excellent round, tested it for hydrostatic shock. It will dump all its energy in a single gallon jug of water 💦. The impact and ‘explosion’ is seriously devastating.
I run underwood ammo 165 grain gold dot JHP in mine. One hot load.
I shot that ammo once.
My wife wound up pregnant
Just bought a 10mm like you I love it.
10mm is fine, I love the 44 Magnum. Just picked me up a DE, what fun.
Preach brother!!!
Love the caliber, hate the price
Great educational video! Thanks for your time!
Thanks for sharing your viewpoint.
Next up: 357 Sig AND 45 Gap.
1600 FPS out of an automatic handgun. LOL! That's wild.
7.62x25 can do that, though it is like half the weight of a 10mm
1650 fps is average for military 7.62x25 ammo. 7.62x25 for PPSH and PPS is even hotter 1700-1725 fps and more from pistol with easy and a lot of powder did not burn, because of short barrel (4.6").
Grzegorz Krajewski but it's a 60 grain FMJ bullet that will overpenetrate.
Thank you for your honesty.
Ty for your honesty!!!