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Its the opposite. Why would i ever pick some cringe austrian, plastic toy looking gun, that works well, instead of a bristish crungy piece of shit gun that looks cool?
Maybe something interesting that Brandon didn't mention: That big trigger guard on the AUG is there so you can easily operate it while wearing mittens, which is important for use in the Austrian alps.
Small correction for the 42 rounder. Those mags are used for the LMG variant (which like the L86, is honestly kinda pointless) called the AUG HBAR. The HBAR is essentially 'let's put in a heavier barrel'.
Interestingly, the HBAR also has a unique trigger group and bolt carrier that allow it to fire from an open bolt. Still, you are talking a 30s conversion process in the field to drop in the alternate trigger pack, bolt carrier, and barrel.
I immediately thought when I opened this video and you tapped the mag, oh boy he's gonna have some issues with that. All the issues I had with this generally came from the magazine. It's plastic and breaks and cracks a lot. The spring goes funky and it loses springiness and of course the feeding from the magazine not being inserted enough or too hard can be a bit annoying. Enjoyable video was fun to see your thoughts :)
The problem is, that steyr never really intended the magazines to be used for ages. They were essentially designed to be replaced more often than a metal magazine. Problem, the militaries that adopted the AUG are not to keen on buying new mags like crazy, so they are used beyond their recommended lifespan
When I was in the ADF "Australian Defence Force" 20 years ago the Steyr was or still is our main weapon, there was a pin under the trigger you could extend so you couldn't pull the trigger all the way in to full-auto.
It’s the worst, really wish we had a proper selector on the EF88. Guns get so clapped out it’ll either permanently fall down to semi or get jammed up and you need your multi to dig it out
@@CTA12356dude I’ve been using the same one for years and the selector is perfect. If you know how to use it you don’t ever need to put the single shot lockout down and I’ve never in my life seen one that just falls down
The first Steyrs in service were semi automatic only in line with the ADF fire discipline standard. The 1.5 magnification site was also designed so that it could be used for estimating range as a 170cm target would fill the reticle at 200m. And the first ammunition had a metal penetrator which proved too … well penetrating so had to be de-engineered.
Now I finally know how americans feel when someone says they feel patriotism Hearing Brandon talk about a gun my country made just fills me with a little bit of pride. Also this is the only gun I ever got to shoot and I love it. Thank you Brendan
Fun fact, about the AUG: You can swap the barrel with a longer one with a bipod attached and use it as an SAW. Never saw it though, at least not in my service time. The Austrian military uses the modified MG42 like Germany. But they call it the MG74 and not MG3
I may be wrong, but I believe the SAW variant of the AUG operates on an open bolt, whereas the normal AUGs are all closed bolt. A simple barrel swap wouldn't be sufficient, at least to my knowledge.
i mean many european militarys use a mg42 derivative, for example switzerland has the mg51 but that is really only used as a mounted weapon because the whole damm thing is milled because switzerland
@@vega1287 They use a milled version of a gun that was created to be made out of stamped steel to simplify production and cut weight? Never change, Switzerland. Never change.
Used this rifle in the NZ army all the time , but it had a longer barrel and had the full auto function via pressure as he mentioned. Solid weapon IMO and ergonomic.. A 4X Scope would be better, the original one was a bit lacking .
fun fact: You can actually take the butt pad off to reveal a neat little compartment where you can store things like oil, backup firing pin, and a few other bits and bobs you might need when youre issued this gun as a soldier (well, at least the A1 version that i got issued had that, dunno if a2 and a3 have that aswell but i suppose so) Also, you are not supposed to slap the mag on the aug, in training we were told at MOST you give it a little lovetap, but overall youre just supposed to firmly slot it into the gun and apply pressure by grabbing it with your whole hand, but dont slap it.
@@beefestrogen5276its a magazine issue. If it was the gun itself the issue would be during chambering, not during insertion of the mag when the gun is doing nothing to elicit malfunction. The mags Brandon got are probably too malleable or got warped in extreme heat so now they're "loose" so to speak. The AUGs that take AR mags don't have this issue.
@@mr.noname9328 I was in a military that used plastic mags and we never slapped them. Metal yes, plastic no. It's a little weird to me to see a firearms enthusiast who does.
If you haven't already, I strongly suggest upgrading from the basic plastic trigger sear to a metal one. TFBTV had great results with this little upgrade
30 round mags are the standard in the austrian army, it even says so in the field manual. Our instructor once told us that there were bigger mags for it but the army doesnt have them, only 30s
Because the 42rnd Mag was supposed to be used with HBAR version of the Aug. Giving an infantry squad some LMG capacity, at least that was indented purpose but the HBAR's were never aquired except a small patch for the Jagdkommando.
@@Ronin-ze2yi It seems like nobody except the Soviets had followed through with the "heavy rifle" LMG concept that was popular during the Cold War. I can understand the Germans (and, by extension, Austrians) saying "fuck it, we'll scale down a belt-fed to 5.56" - after all, they had the engineering expertise and manufacturing excellence to pull that off, especially considering the size of their armies at the time. Still, HK had a series of belt\mag-fed G3-derivatives with quick change barrels, and even managed to license and sell some to Portugal and some latinos, but it all folded along with G3 production in early 00s. And between all the "future soldier" programs emphasizing wack shit like high-RPM burst-fire, programmable-fuse grenades and flechettes, US DoD had no time to consider the plight of the common grunt lugging around the lube-addicted Minimi and its fragile belt boxes. It's kinda surprising that the RPK never got a decent competitor in the market during the spicy years of international conflict. The concept was proven time and time again, both as a whole and every specific component of it: RPK-based receivers are used for "Vepr" series of high-caliber AK variants, with Vepr-12 earning a reputation for reliability and longevity far in excess of comparable Saiga-12; ditto for heavy bull barrels; 40rd banana mags and 95rd drums are used to good effect with lighter AK variants by assaulters, close protection details and other specialists who prefer to achieve volume of fire without lugging an MG around.
I mean we have the MG 74 kinda understandable that conservative army generals chose to go with a NATO Mg-42 which is proven from the last time an Austrian stirred up some shit
Only the jagdkommando use the 42 round mags as standard. Hob noch keine Einheit gesehen wo 42er standard sind nur dass eine mal als ein GWD ausversehen ein 42er mag vom NUO bekommen hat xd
@@BlackBladeGroM Russians are switching to a belt fed LMG now, kind of shows that mag fed mg's aren't that great when even Russia is veering away from them
@@grimreminder5038 LOL! But if you want it for serious use, get something more reliable both in terms of mechanical and manual operation. Tavor series and VHS-2 comes to mind. And I would say NO to MDRX, RDB and AUG from personal experience.
Carried the carbine for a while, it was great. Light, reliable and accurate. Good rifle for a paratrooper. I should say, our F88c's had a lockout button under the trigger for fixed semi automatic fire.
Austrian here, was in the army last year. Never seen any 42 round mags, only 30 round. Also, it's not just the barrel that can be easily removed, the entire gun can easily be disassembled and reassembled really quickly.
From what others have replied, Steyr made 42 round magazines available, perhaps for an HBAR variant that didn't see wide adoption. No military I believe outside of perhaps some special forces or counter terrorist groups took the magazines in
@@immikeurnot I thought so but then I don't get why people always make such a big deal about the AUG's barrel. If other guns can also be quickly disassembled then shouldn't the barrel also be removable like that?
Got to shoot a full-auto AUG when we did weapons training with the Austrian Army guys who were on the same unit with us. Easy to hit those weird turning auto-reset targets they had set up to 50 to 200 meters. The trigger really required an effort to go to fun mode. Austrians shot with our RK-95s, that was a fun day.
On the last range-day in the Austrian army we "accidentally" all forgot how to use our progressive triggers and magdumped into the targets. Haha a loooot of push-ups followed but it was worth it. Our drill instructor totally lost his mind "Xou don't want to screw up the assignment or I will personally punish you untill you throw up!... BRRRRRRT!"
@@bobthompson4319 Some of the Austrians had similar ideas, but oh well, everyone had to leave the range with their issued rifles. Too bad our ride left just when the Austrians set up a MG 3 machinegun, would have been really cool to have a go with that.
I was in the New Zealand Army for 6 years and found the Styer to be a very good rifle. In thousands of live rounds I only ever had 3 or so stoppages (Blanks another issue). The donut of death meant you really had to work on the principals of marksmanship to get the best out of it. Will always hold a place in my heart.
Yeah, then we switched to an m4 variant... and only got the long barrels for them. so they're a real pain when operating in vehicles or doing any other non shooting work. *sigh* yeah the steyr has a horrible trigger and it sucks in CQB when trying to transition, but in my opinion the compactness makes up for all that for non frontline roles, or even front line roles where you still have to quick sling and use both hands for something.
As a former austrian conscript (long ago though) it always seemed to me that the donut made it very easy to hit something for someone absolutely unexperienced with guns without much training. Each one of our group in basic training managed to hit 6 of 6 moving mansized targets at 200m after having fired a total of maybe 15 live rounds before. (not just in basic training, none of us had ever fired a gun before our service) The iron sights on the MG meant more brainpower to use them and more explanation by the instructors in my view. Funny to hear that you guys had the same issues with blanks! Many of my comrades put cigarett remains into the BFA which helped creating a bit more backpressuer for a short time. (and as a joke, using the austrian slang word for cigarette they called it "Tschig-tuning")
@@nirfz They really didn't like the blanks with many stoppages and a real pain to clean.We would deliberately try not to shoot too many blanks. I agree at normal combat ranges the donut was good but me personally once we went out to 300m that was where the limits of it were.
Ever take it into wet, sandy environments? I've had stoppages they didn't even have an actions on for with this pos. Hydro locked it, bent guid rails, got the trigger locked to full auto only .. it hates wet sandy conditions (shoalwater bay). Crawly 100m through the sand and it just frigging dies in the ass. Hks were much better, easy to clear stoppages. In saying that, the styer is the best cqb rifle I've ever used. Second to none I'd say.
Fun fact about the quick change barrel. The AUG has a heavy barrel designed to convert a normal AUG into a Squad Automatic Weapon. The quick change barrel is so that any AUG can be easily converted into a SAW, the SAW barrel could easily be switched to counter overheating the barrel, and by having one firearm fulfill both roles it allowed armies to streamline logistics. Also I love how the AUG is ambidextrous with two ejection ports (one on each side). It is very rare for a gun to be designed to also facilitate left handed shooters.
converting the AUG into a SAW not only requires the HBAR (Heavy Barrel including a bipod) but also the change of the fire control unit - thus converting it from a closed bolt to an open bolt system. And although there are the 42rd mags the AUG still is not available with belr feeding.
The Irish Army Augs have an ALO, automatic lock out, on the bottom of the triggers. It's like a little button. If you pull it down then it stops the trigger going past semi auto, considering you will rarely use it. If you press it in then the trigger will go to full auto. It was a neat way to get around the annoying progressive firing.
The plasticky and poor feel of the AUG trigger is in reality due to entirely plastic trigger mechanism. Some people had exchanged parts in the trigger pack for metal ones, and the trigger feel improved out of sight according to them. If you get the metal parts for it, the feel will improve. If memory serves the Tavor also has an all-plastic trigger. But I might be wrong
One of my favorite things on the AUG which you didn't cover is that you can rotate the internals and have it eject the casings out the left side for left handed shooters.
Fun Fact: In Halo, the Styer AUG canonically shares it's operating system with the MA5 series, and is considered to be the first primary service rifle adopted by the UNSC.
I have shot the AUG a couple of times. I thought it handled great. Has less movement than a AR. Just a pleasure to shoot. It is an outstanding firearm. Definitely one of my all-time favorites!!!
During my service in the Austrian military, I learned to respect the Stg. 77. I still don't like 99% of polymer guns (just because polymer), but make an exception for the AUG. It's light, reliable, durable, easy to operate and maintain, and it just looks cool - what's not to like?
Had this rifle in the Irish Defence Forces for 20 years and no problems. We never gave the magazine's a love tap (fecking stupid thing to do if You ask me), only thing I felt uncomfortable with was the front handle which I felt was too loose( for a better word ). Preferred the Belgian FAl even though it was twice the weight. The FAL in 5.56 would have been better.
I had no idea the AUG barrel just rotated out like that. Also had to laugh at the end. Just casually pulls out M60 and just sends it lol love all the content. I always learn something and it’s fun to watch.
if i remember right they did that as they wanted it to act as an LMG as well it had a larger thicker barrel with bi-pod. it had 4 barrels 350mm Commando 407mm Carbine 505mm Assault Rifle and the 621mm Heavy Barrel Light Support Weapon.
The good old Styer, I remember when they came into Aussie service they quickly got the the name of the Tupperware gun, but they've proved their worth since we got 'em.
It never crossed my mind to consider pistols as bullpups until Brandon brought this up. Now I will believe that this is the case and nobody will ever dissuade me.
An Argentinian army commando told me once "it is so satisfying to aim the target with the Steyr AUG, shoot and watch the whole in the exact spot you had aimed". But as a drawback, he also told me during hot days the reticle tends to blur so you've got to use the back up sights, which are not great.
Well, the AUG accuracy has been well portrayed in video games then, because that's the reason why I like using it so much. I want my bullets to go where I aim, on the flip side, it means I need to get good at aiming because I can't be sloppy with my aim and still get kills.
they are not so much back up sights(first gen) but rather night time battle sights. shoots a bit high, but during night shooting, most shoot low, atleast on the range.
@@benjaminhackl3429 The level of accuracy of a firegun is an expression of how the manufacturer created the weapon. Velocity of the bullet or barrel length have no effect on accuracy (Unless you change a 20 inch barrel for one of 7.5 inches). The Austrian soldiers might be using rifles that suffered too much wear along the decades.
I loved this rifle when I served in the Australian army. Very reliable and accurate. Easy to take the barrel off which makes it very easy to clear blockages. No worries hitting someone in the chest at 300m.
The mag well/reload mechanism, the overall compactness, the built-in collapsible foregrip, and just overall aesthetically pleasing design...it's all here for the Steyr AUG. Kudos, Brandon. Glad you shot (yet again) another iconic classic. Cheers.
The AUG is certainly on my wishlist of guns. Find it interesting how the Australians adopted it too, would have assumed they'd kept with a traditional design instead of a bullpup.
We’ve also made lots of changes to it. Added a bolt release button, removed the quick change barrel, made it all black, changed the cocking handle to add a forward assist, and changed up some of the picitiny railing to better fit our night fighting equipment
If I recall correctly Colt wanted all M16A2s built in America but Styre was like build it where ever the fuck you like, and that was the winning argument for the AusGov
Three things to add: 1. We always used old M16 cleaning kits (steel rod) to clean it in service, 2. load the magazine rather than slamming it, and 3. When you are operating out of vehicles on uneven ground, periodically check the safety as it can slip if you and the weapon are being thrown around over rocks. There are some other quirks of the weapon, but beyond youtube. Reasonable bit of kit, but in my view M16A2 was overall better for jungle operations.
Also as someone living in Austria: I'd like to add that every year in summer and winter when the retired german tourist hoardes incapable of driving up a mountain road invade our tourist spots, they pretend that austria is not a seperate country, and we pretend that we are their buddies, then when they finally leave, we count our green euro notes, and we thank the lord that we're not part of germany.
First time I watched Die Hard as a kid back in the eighties, I'd assumed that the goofy looking gun the guy was using was some sort of fake movie prop made up to look futuristic. That idea stuck with me so long that even after I knew what a Steyr Aug looked like I still didn't put the pieces together for an embarrassingly long time.
Check out the Irish Defence forces AUG. They have a custom model AUG where Steyr put in a trigger with a selector built into the trigger itself for single / auto fire modes (Once you put it in Auto though that shits staying progressive pull until you have 30 seconds free). So you can go full Auto with a single pull trigger until you engage the full auto lockout then its a progressive trigger, win win! They also have a custom cocking handle with a into battery button to smack it in M4 style but on the cocking handle itself. They Irish also created a custom M203 mount for the barrel.
There are a handful of “quality of life” upgrade parts you can find for this rifle. 20/20 precision aluminum trigger sear, ARID aluminum trigger/ safety combo, and of course just about anything that comes from Corvus Defensio. Without a doubt the AUG has a troll toll, but the things I mentioned really make the rifle ascend to the next level. I’ve had mine for years and only recently tried steel ammunition (shitty under powered .223 Tula) and it cycled without fail. Perhaps a little wear and break-in is needed before it accepts cheap stuff?
When I worked at a shooting range we had one of these for rent. While it was probably the most reliable bullpup we had on the rental racks, I couldn't stand it because the trigger on ours was god awful. Maybe I'm too used to match triggers in my ARs, but pulling the AUG's trigger is like towing a trailer with no tires over a gravel pit.
@@timothycain4512 mine are fine, x95 and vhs2 are perfectly suited for 500 yard shots. Not "good" triggers but they are definitely serviceable. They both break clean. I'll still be replacing them but they are actually better than the AUG, SAR, ect by a large margin.
The A1 was my service rifle and I was in the austrian army when they started to switch to the A3. So just some extra info you missed out on: 1.) There is still a A3 Version with the scope on top. They even added 3 more rails to the scope so you can put a red dot on top and other stuff to the side. It's called the AUG A3 SF. We started to adopt it in 2003 but most of the army still uses the A1. 2.) The progressive trigger was chosen for the same reason the trigger guard is extended over the grip. The weapon was made for fighting in the alps in sub zero temperatures while using mittens. Thats the same reason why the safety is a push trough and not a switch. I know it still suckes but at least there is a reason for it^^ (At least thats what I was told)
Brandon you have to adjust the trigger to get the play out. Take the aug down without removing the rod that sits on the trigger. Loosen the bolt holding the trigger rod in place. Pull it out halfway. Use the trigger pack to push the rod back in. Then tighten the rod bolt down and reinstall the barrel and trigger pack. The play in the trigger will be gone and it’ll feel less mushy. Someone please let Brandon know about this process.
Considering gun ownership here in Germany is a lot of paperwork and pretty costly, I'm planning to eventually get a single rifle when I'm 21-25. And I already know it will be an AUG. From people I've talked to that own one, I've only heard positive things. It also looks just neat and has that austrian precision xD Also considering my small dimensions even for woman I think a compact bullpup is a reasonable choice
Just make sure to get a feel for it before buying; without an adjustable stock, and (I'm assuming) shorter arms, it might be a little uncomfortable shouldering it.
I've had my 16" A3 (non M1) rifle + a 9mm kit and a spare 5.56 24" LMG barrel for about 8 years now. I have never had the rounds hop out of any factory mags or any AUG PMAG's when doing an insertion check smack, but that's not to say it isn't an issue with some mags. I will attest that mine will not cycle cheap Tula steel case .223. While they will extract and eject when manually operating the bolt, on firing the bolt does not make it far enough back for the spent case to hit the ejector or for the bolt to pick up the next round in the mag. Not sure if they are just that underpowered, or if they are causing excess friction on extraction, but yeah. Thankfully no stuck casings the couple times I have tested steel. All that said, in 8 years and several thousand rounds of brass .223 and 5.56, I've had zero malfunctions, with either length barrel. The 9mm conversion (6th gen) has also been 100% reliable with the AUG specific 25rd mags it came with. I've not tried any of the MPi 81 32rd mags.
My AUG A3M1 will run Tula steel case reliably. But only with the gas system set to adverse and a little extra oil on a patch through the chamber. I don't run it very often but sometimes when I take friends to the range I'll use the cheap stuff.
Aussie here, ex-ADF. The Austeyr is still our rifle of choice. In my time in the army I've used the F88, F88SA1, F88SA1C, F88SA2 and the EF88. It's probably been said before but our Steyrs have a wee plug called an "automatic lockout" located at the base of the trigger. In the exposed position that plug prevents the weapon before fired past semi-auto. Flip that bad boy up for full auto fun. Happy lead chucking! P.S yeah love tapping the mag.. we don't do that here.
Being Austrian, i served with the Steyr AUG, though i only got to shoot it twice (i hit! Both times!). It´s great how simple the gun is to disassamble, i haven´t held it in hand for 20 years now and i´m confident i still could do it blind. Trigger is hard to pull though, but that´s generally a downside of bullpups.
3:25 this is why, for me at least, I associate Bullpups with either sniper rifles, because longer barrel with same size rifle, or CQC/CQB, smaller rifle with same size barrel
I was in AUS Army Cadets and we got to use the F88 model of it. Originally I was abit annoyed that it wasn’t an M4 and we’d heard rumours about how the AUG is inaccurate. But man after I held, fired and learned how to reload and strip the gun it became my favourite thing ever. And no it’s not inaccurate, it’s the user who is inaccurate.
@spiderboy8062 lol wut? That sucks man, back in the day you had a morning on the range with the F88 at annual, and if you were lucky enough to be near a base with WESSCS or whatever the acronym was you got a day there as well
@@spiderboy8062 Considering the reputation of Army Cadets, it wouldn’t be surprising. Got to fire the F88 while I was in the Air Force Cadets and I had a lot of fun with it. Acquired my marksman badge on the rapid fire section. Although it was fun conducting Styer drill, I still preferred SLR drill and wished they were still available to shoot.
I was actually issued an Aug with one of the few agencies that did so in the US. We were trained to never hit the magazine to seat it in the gun. Mags were gripped and pushed in until seated. I always assumed it was to protect the feed lips.
14:51 actually happened to me with an AR once, steel flake and all. I think the dark grey Lacquer Tula used was notorious for sticking in chambers so they changed it a couple years ago (now the cases are lighter grey and rougher on the outside).
The 42 rounds mag is the standard only for the LMG, the AUG HB...a pretty rare version equiped with a heavier and longer(621mm instead of 508 for the rifle) barrel with a bipod(and a different flash hider/brake) adopted by uh...only luxemburg ,as far as i know
The old New Zealand Army Aug is one of the only two rifles I've ever held. The second being the replacement for the Aug, The MARS-L. Personally I preferred the feel of the AUG
All the aussies i worked with, were more than happy to ditch their AUSteyrs for some M4A1 love. They let me try it out, i hated it immediately. The trigger makes that thing crap, too heavy and awkward. Makes rhe M240B trigger seem like a precision trigger by comparison
Ha-ha, yep, I used to call it that too 😂 I joined in '87 so started on the SLR (FAL for not Aussie or Brits) and initially took me a bit to get used to the F88. Have to say I eventually warmed to it, much better for building clearing. I also can honestly say I never got a 'Steyr Eye' but I learned that from others 🤣🤣
suboptimal for which use case... The intention was to have something that is easy to use without any previous knowledge about marksmanship, that is rugged enough for daily use by soldiers. I would even claim that the original one can take more beating than most other optics i have seen someone put on it on the interweb. -> Mine got smaked with a broomhandle in full swing, it did retain zero and had no damage. (we had some "empty rifle defense" training and one instructor decided to surprside me after my trainig was done with a "more realistic approach". So when defending, i parried with the optic before almost injuring him with the muzzle.) Getting roped down passively a 40m rock drop quite agressively meant i got smacked against a rock wall several times. At the end, the guy operating the rope dropped me from around 2m of height on the ground and i hit it with my back. What dampened my impact in the first case was the rifle and it's optics in the second case my big backpack prevented back injuries, but the rifle impacted the ground next to my backpack. Did keep zero and had no damage apart from even more paint taken off the upper housing. (it was already old when it got issued to me. It was an A0 rifle with an A1 reticle.) During my service 99/00 we had roughly a 50:50 mixture of A0 and A1 reticles in our platoon. (Some of the rifles were A1 variants too, so not even half of the rifles issued to us had gotten a replacment optic or optic-internals at some point in their 20 years of use.)
I used that 1,5x fixed optic in 2001/2002. it was...a compromise. but given that we were boys and conscripted it was probably good. but since the point in time of full equipment of the Austrian Armed Forces with the AUG there's several generations of Gen X, Gen Y and Gen Z Austrians that don't know how to use iron sights.
Honestly, out of the bullpups I've shot (only 4) I liked the choice my son picked for his first big boy caliber that I bought him for high school graduation. That would be the Keltec RDB with a 17.5" barrel. It shoots good, the trigger isn't complete horseshit like most bullpups, and its fairly intuitive to learn the controls. The one downside I noticed is the concussion blast you get when standing to the side of it due to the enclosed action and downward ejection. With that said, don't stand next to it. Lol!
Love my RDB. Friend just bought an AUG A3 and I'll have comparisons soon. 4 bullpups is a lot of bullpups, I've yet to get in the vicinity of a Tavor or Hellion yet.
When you say "like most bullpups" what exactly are you comparing against? I don't know of a single one that was produced in any respectable quantity that doesn't have at least one if not multiple aftermarket trigger packs. And my friend's MDR shoots crisp right out of the box. But people just wanna repeat groupthink
@@rodiculous9464 I've shot the Aug, Tavor, and P90. All were stock triggers and not that good in my opinion. As for after market triggers, I dont know of any for the RDB or P90. Maybe you can enlighten me with your groupthink?
As someone who used the "STG 77", "Sturmgewehr from 1977 (never heard "AUG") in the Austrian Military (also on the border, Yugoslavian war 1991): the biggest advantage for a soldier is that is very easy to clean, you put the plastic parts in water and there aren´t many steel parts, much less time consuming than other rifels :) The sensible trigger is bad for beginners, later on you become used to it. I live nearby Steyr, my cusin made the tools for producing this guns plastic corps. It has an muzzle velocity of 990 m/s originally over 1000 m/s, which was not allowed in Austria, therfore has been reduced to 990.
I trained with that when I was in the Australian army as well the newer variant. The style that’s in the video was notorious for ADs when the stock of the weapon was tapped hard enough. Many a day out field was interrupted by a random round popping off whenever someone dropped their rifle.
The "engineers" added a "drop-safety" mech to the firing mech. I don't know if it worked as intended,. I have a long-standing personal aversion to dropping weapons or other items of value. Diggers fooling around with the trigger extension rod settings could and did get into dangerous territory. All it took was a too much "pre-load" on the sear slide and nasty things could happen. There is supposed to be NO "preload, but instead "free-play" such that with the safety ON the trigger extension rod is CLEAR of the sear. It makes for a "less-than stellar" take-up on "fire" but you get used to it. It is a COMBAT weapon, not a single-shot, precision, long-range target rifle, after all.. I know of several close calls on live ranges, but these were not from dropped rifles, but "operator error" regarding the condition of the safety catch and the position of the trigger finger. TRAINING and VERIFICATION matter.! Part of the "active attitude adjustment" training was to have random days where the entire unit ALL drew a rifle and a magazine containing blank cartridges and had to keep it within reach all day, regardless of whether you were a motor-mechanic, cook, clerk, blanket-stacker or whatever. I never heard any sudden loud noises on those occasions (apart from the sort of things you hear in big mechanical workshops). Funny how people get all careful when there are consequences for "lapses".
I liked my l1a1 slr instead of the aug . Im old school though . Close combat my browning took over . The l1a1 was a bit long in occupied building searched . Plus its bloody loud in a building when firing off rounds . I was a sapper . Good times blowing shit up .
Love the vid! I served in the Australian Army and used the F88 (AUG A1) I can confirm she DOES NOT like steel casing AT ALL! Also, dont smack the mag in, roll it in and it's a sweet sweet deal. The progressive trigger is awesome, if you're used to AR platform, it's a big difference but any weapon is only as good as the operator. I love my AUG. Its just a fantastic weapon. Looks awesome, it's accurate ... oh, the 16" barrel is great but the 20 is even better. Love the PIG at the end! Thanks for the great content
@@jimmyrecard6021 yeah, the steel casing jams in the ejection port causing a stoppage. I did manage about 40 rounds at first without issues but after that it was 50/50 success rate. brass casing ... 100% success
Fun Fact: One Time a small yipyap magazine in Austria made an this or that Interview with the Minister of Defence (basically if she prefers this or that). One of the questions was what she would do in a marriage argument; the options were a thought out conversation with the husband or steyr aug. Her choice was the steyr aug.
Awesome video mate, if you want to see really in-depth and complete comparison the Australian Defence Force conducted L1A1 v's Steyr AUG and M4 contract back in the 90's. Clear and definitive winner was the Steyr and has been the standard Australian military system since. All-be-it produced as AUS-Steyr under license with some modifications.. single shot lock-out being one :) They were actually quite brutal with the testing and the comments at the end are certainly worth a read, I have not seen testers be so honest in any other contract test.
idk man, had a chat with some warrant officer the other day and he reckons a lot of why the AUG was chosen had to do with licensing and Colt's refusal to let us make M4s in Australia back in the day and Steyr giving us the all clear to let Lithgow manufacture the F88s locally.
If the aug was the clear and definitive winner why did the sasr adopt the m4 ? Dont get me wrong its a great gun, both platforms are, but as the others said it was chosen due to being able to manufacture locally.
@@robmicheal511 thinking the SASR as well as various commando regiments that use the M4 platform do so as they say, because they can :) They also use the 417 and a plethoria of other alternates to suit their specific needs in that role. Not an expert but I did like the read on that comparison and just thought it would be useful to those who wanted to know is all.
Steyr have made so many iconic arms that just look cool, like the ssg series, the steyr scout, TMP andthe m1912 (not to mention the other funky pistols they made in the 1900s)
Their M9 series of pistols are pretty funky too. I've shot the L9-A2 quite a bit. Excellent pistol IMO, great recoil control and crazy but more than functional scifi sights.
Probably someone else wrote it too, but I was a draftee in the Austrian Army in 2000 and the 42 round magazines are NOT standard. The 30 round mag is standard issue. Each soldier got five of those in my day. We used a carrying system related to the US ALICE system, where we had two pouches in front with two mags each and one in the gun. I loved this gun and how compact, sturdy and yet accurate it was. I personally found it also very easy to operate. To the point where I could disassemble and reassemble (not field strip!) it blind in less than 1,5 minutes
You’d probably prefer the Austeyr EF88 which is built under patent in Lithgow Australia for the Australian Army. They made vast improvements on the AUG weapon platform and it is a highly reliable, versatile and accurate firearm. It has full auto heavy barrel additions also for a LSW.
@@stever285 the new one has a bolt release latch similer to the M4, its also got a non folding front foregrip that has a bipod built in (still plastic) its also under 4kg and a few smaller things changed as well as overall length being shorter
And it is a light gun. I used the first STG77 Version, and it was a huge difference if you had to carry a STG77 or an older, much heavier rifle. Shooting with this rifle was great fun, even total newbes like me at that time were easily able to hit targets 300 meters away. Early shoot and forget, so to speak......
Light compared to older rifles, maybe, but not compared to an AR15. I have an AUG A3M1 with Manticore Arms scope mount and Vortex PSTII 1-6x24 scope, and it weighs 9.5lbs / 4.3kg. The scope adds some weight compared to the factory optic, for sure, but I’d still say the AUG is heavier than modern competitors. I still love it, though.
I love the Aug, despite many soldiers not being a fan. My daughter carried one for 8 months in one of the world's most dangerous places. She loves it too.
just to give you more info it is also used by the Australian armed forces it also has a long barrel version for sniper ability the original version has the switch between single shot and burst and full automatic as I have fired one when I was in the Australian army cadets, and you get to fire them as a second year cadet at annual camp, the removable barrel is multipurpose for checking clear chamber or switching from assault rifle to sniper in the field relatively quick without carrying the extra weight of a second weapon for better mobility in the field.
I was in the cadets from 1971 to 73, SMLE (.303), FN SLR, Bren (.303), and M60 - what the hell were they thinking! There was always a regular army guy beside you waiting to break the link belt if you went a bit nuts on the M60. >:-)>
I have an old Preban AUG, I really like it. The trigger is nowhere as good as my Tavor, or any of my ARs but it just feels right in the shoulder. I have never had that issue with my mags, but then they just click in so positively I don’t tap them, just a little tug to make sure they locked
@@RealKlausSchwab yes, would agree that by the 90s it had well faded away from its original popularity and ubiquiousness, but the people who grew up and lived in the 70s and 80s were the people in the army during the 90s. So would make sense that they would still be using Tupperware references in the 90s even though it had faded in popularity and relevance.
I served In Australian army within the infantry and when we got those and all we ever did was squeeze off full auto when down on the range so we had to pull down the chicken button underneath the trigger then after time it was hard to even go full auto. Rotating bolt with 7 locking lugs
The Aussies in Iraq let us use their AUGs at the range some times. They are pretty amazing and are even better with the integrated sight changed out for a rail.
The AUG is a cool gun, I'd like to see it make a return someday. Perhaps when talk about ergonomics on gun's you could compare the manual of arm's/ergonomics of the AUG, AR-15 and AK-74? How do they stack up to each other, what's better or worse considering the scenario etc.
Thanks for using the word scenario! That makes a big differenc in my opinion. (as does what you are used to) As many often view these rifles from a match shooting perspective that in some areas emphasises different things than the standard infantery use. (mag changes for example: Dropping mags is normal in matches, less so in the field if your life could depend on keeping your mags from getting dirt in them. A big mag button might be advantageous in really cold weather, but irrelevant in a match. Same for the trigger guard of the AUG that is designed that you can use mittens, nobody would need that, or do that in a match.) As for the manual of arms: i have to say the only guntuber i have seen so far who reloaded the AUG like soldiers got taught to, was Garandthumb. Everybody else took it out of the shoulder and tilted it sideways.
I loved the AUG, great little rifle and the sound of it firing brings back the nostalgia. Earned my marksmans badge, top of my class, in the RNZAF with it. Original A1 with the 0.5 scope, 30 round mags. Breaking it down to clean was pretty simple.
Used the basic F88 Austyer during my service. Back when they didn't have a picatinny rail and they had a fixed 1.5 scope in the carry handle. Here's some of my general observations... Be careful with the safety of you lay the rifle on the ground... Also, like any rifle with a scope, keep your eye away from it lol, can't tell you how many people, mostly used to open sighted L1A1 SLRs, or not used to shooting at all, succumbed to "Steyr-eye" injuries (Nice circular incision made around sighting eye)... We used to wash the plastic stock in the shower during recruit training hahaha! The early ones have issues... Mags occasionally fell off whilst running. Or rounds jumping up onto the chamber... After a while the barrel release button can get a bit loose... As can the ejection port blank, if it's constantly being swapped over to accommodate "wrong handers"... We used either the bayonet, (or, out of desperation, the end of a 5.56 F1 round) to pull the single shot lockout button back out after some rapid fire fun 😀... Does yours not have full auto functionality? Fired thousands of rounds out of one, found even with the 1.5 scope, it could be as accurate as hell. Saw a demo where they deliberately ran over one with a Leopard AS1 tank, to demonstrate how robust the Austyer was. Yes, it did damage it, but yes, it was still functional. I don't think it could be disassembled again, the plastic firing mech was wedged into the butt. But it did still fire! And yeah, military user guide says steel casing rounds may cause stoppages. Also, after doing obstacle course runs, a condom over the flash suppressor keeps mud, dirt, water and gunk out of the barrel, and consequently, after running, climbing, crawling etc, from getting into the breach... Lots of stoppages... Particularly with blanks. Under normal conditions, when live firing, I only had maybe 6 stoppages. In the mud and sludge out bush (when you are literally crawling through mud and slush) stoppages (usually with blanks) could be as many as nearly 1 in 5 rounds fired. Annoying as hell, as you can't exactly strip and clean your rifle in a contact situation haha! Also featured on the movie "Harley Davidson and the Marlboro Man"... Enough "war and peace"... Thanks for another great video Brandon 👍🏻👍🏻
Fellow digger here, been using the F88SA2 and EF88 most of my career, and i agree with you entirely. The new sights and kits though are a night and day improvement, 1x to 4x sight with red dot built in, integrated bipod in the foregrip, lowered weight and the barrel is now secured to the reviever assembly. But dont worry, the minimi is still the biggest hunk of wasted steel imaginable lol
"wrong Hander" here that got yelled at Kapooka in '94 for showering the guy to my left with hot brass on the 200m mound when I "accidentally" knocked the full auto lockout under the trigger up.. poor bastard was copping brass bukakke from both sides that day. Also I'm kinda short and enjoyed the shorter length of this weapon, I didn't experience the stoppages so much.. I carried a F88 GLA ( M203, detachable scope and no bayonet lug) once the M79 went away (didn't miss carrying the wombat gun around to be honest).
That magazine uses elevation to snap into place, you slide it in and then pull back. its even faster than hitting the magazine in which also has the possibility to let it drop. At least thats how I was trained with the A1
Yeah, I used to just put it in and give a little tug to make sure it's locked. No need for any slapping the bottom bullshit, was even told not to slap it in recruit training, never had a problem.
@@RealKlausSchwab No, smart. Instead of slapping a magazine like a fucking ogre, you make less noise and move your hand in a "circular" motion in your reload cycle. It's not fucking hard, and it's not horrible by any measure.
30 rounds are the standard mags we use in Austria. The 42 one is for the "LMG" version you get when you change the barrel for the longer, heavy, barrel with bipod.
Thanks for watching guys! So now that you’ve seen my breakdown, what do you think about the AUG? And what other guns would you like to see on the channel? Let me know!
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You still hate the AUG.
Edit: told ya, no progressive trigger cuz you hate the Aug
One of the first
Hey dad Notification squad!
If the L85A1 is what you show off to scare away potential Bullpup users, the AUG is what you use to get more people into the idea of Bullpups.
nah for me it was the FAMAS
The L85a2 on the other is damned sexy and I stand by it (ok yes I am a brit)
FAMAS and VHS (F)2 are pretty neat
What abot TAVOR?
Its the opposite. Why would i ever pick some cringe austrian, plastic toy looking gun, that works well, instead of a bristish crungy piece of shit gun that looks cool?
I love to joke that the main reason Australia adopted this gun is to troll people who get them confused with Austria
wasn't it because they were allowed to produce them themselves unlike with the competitor?
@@phipschi4255 that, the above reason and we also find a bullpup to be more comfortable to use in the bush
And so we even made ones that have none of these issues...
Hell, I'm pretty sure Lithgow arms were the first to throw rails on the Aug.
@@bogansrun Lithgow arms made the F90 more modular than most out of the box conventional set ups
The LGPAG -- the Little Green Plastic Army Gun.
Maybe something interesting that Brandon didn't mention: That big trigger guard on the AUG is there so you can easily operate it while wearing mittens, which is important for use in the Austrian alps.
Operating a gun with mittens sounds like quite a bad idea
@@puppieslovies not when you are operating in sub 0 temperatures.
Or so we can fire it with our dicks 🤔
@@deejnutz2068 Well im no fucking technician but id just prefer not to operate in Austrian alps, sounds like a bitch to do anything let alone shoot 😂
Similar to how AR-10/15 trigger guards fold.
The AUG is the AK of bullpups, been around for a long time, extremely reliable, and even though its old its still one of if not the best on the market
it remains to see a comparison with an AK-based bullpup, by the way, the Thunderstorm was delivered to the USA, which means it can be found
@@maximantonov6093 Very true
I hope to buy one someday. With the original scope however.
@@DEFC0NZER0 I got one with rails but I agree that original scope is just pure sex appeal
Um no! 🙂🇺🇸☝🏼🍕👍🏼.
AUGs are the coolest Bullpups IMO. They look so retro and futuristic at the same time.
I actually hate how they look can't quite put my finger on why I just can't bring myself to like them aesthetically
Mah...i just like the tavor more.
@E Van the FN F2000?
You said the same thing about your Stilettos!
@@RedMatthew ⚠*!!!!AUG HATE DETECTED. ⚠PREPARE FOR ANAL RAPE BY AUG FANBOYS!!!!*⚠
Small correction for the 42 rounder. Those mags are used for the LMG variant (which like the L86, is honestly kinda pointless) called the AUG HBAR. The HBAR is essentially 'let's put in a heavier barrel'.
That would be a good explanation for the quick change barrel.
Yeah I've never seen the hbar in person but have seen the SBR and .22 conversions
Seems like it would be pretty decent, especially when it has a QCB, if it was full auto only it would probably be 👍👍👍
You should try to get a groza that would be amazing
Interestingly, the HBAR also has a unique trigger group and bolt carrier that allow it to fire from an open bolt. Still, you are talking a 30s conversion process in the field to drop in the alternate trigger pack, bolt carrier, and barrel.
I immediately thought when I opened this video and you tapped the mag, oh boy he's gonna have some issues with that. All the issues I had with this generally came from the magazine. It's plastic and breaks and cracks a lot. The spring goes funky and it loses springiness and of course the feeding from the magazine not being inserted enough or too hard can be a bit annoying. Enjoyable video was fun to see your thoughts :)
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Yoooooo Pest!
Maybe bsg adds failure to feed modifiers on the magazine when the aug gets to tarkov
Is there a chicken switch on the AUG in Tarkov ? 😁
The problem is, that steyr never really intended the magazines to be used for ages. They were essentially designed to be replaced more often than a metal magazine. Problem, the militaries that adopted the AUG are not to keen on buying new mags like crazy, so they are used beyond their recommended lifespan
When I was in the ADF "Australian Defence Force" 20 years ago the Steyr was or still is our main weapon, there was a pin under the trigger you could extend so you couldn't pull the trigger all the way in to full-auto.
We called the halo button if i remember from my time in the Irish defence force
Aka 'the bitch switch' or 'wuss button'
It’s the worst, really wish we had a proper selector on the EF88. Guns get so clapped out it’ll either permanently fall down to semi or get jammed up and you need your multi to dig it out
@@CTA12356dude I’ve been using the same one for years and the selector is perfect. If you know how to use it you don’t ever need to put the single shot lockout down and I’ve never in my life seen one that just falls down
The first Steyrs in service were semi automatic only in line with the ADF fire discipline standard. The 1.5 magnification site was also designed so that it could be used for estimating range as a 170cm target would fill the reticle at 200m. And the first ammunition had a metal penetrator which proved too … well penetrating so had to be de-engineered.
Now I finally know how americans feel when someone says they feel patriotism
Hearing Brandon talk about a gun my country made just fills me with a little bit of pride.
Also this is the only gun I ever got to shoot and I love it.
Thank you Brendan
yeah but in the bundesheer i only got the crusty old A1... and 20 rounds of 5.56 to shoot... semi auto... thank you leftist SPÖ.
@@shookabeatz7402still cooler than a basic ar honestly would take a gen 1 ar10 over a ar15 with anything I want on it
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@@Malibus_Most_Wanted ssshhh, my AR didnt hear that 😔
Lmao what company where you in? I was 1st Garde Kompanie and I got to shoot Aug, Glock and Browning m2
Fun fact, about the AUG: You can swap the barrel with a longer one with a bipod attached and use it as an SAW. Never saw it though, at least not in my service time. The Austrian military uses the modified MG42 like Germany. But they call it the MG74 and not MG3
I may be wrong, but I believe the SAW variant of the AUG operates on an open bolt, whereas the normal AUGs are all closed bolt. A simple barrel swap wouldn't be sufficient, at least to my knowledge.
i mean many european militarys use a mg42 derivative, for example switzerland has the mg51 but that is really only used as a mounted weapon because the whole damm thing is milled because switzerland
@@vega1287 my bad if you saw my original comment, I typed it all up and then realized you weren't talking to me
@@vega1287 They use a milled version of a gun that was created to be made out of stamped steel to simplify production and cut weight? Never change, Switzerland. Never change.
@@shockwave6213 and it is only 3 kilos heavyer
I love how Brandon knows us so well that he automatically knew we were gonna ask why it’s not full auto
Used this rifle in the NZ army all the time , but it had a longer barrel and had the full auto function via pressure as he mentioned.
Solid weapon IMO and ergonomic.. A 4X Scope would be better, the original one was a bit lacking .
@@tristanbreeninteresting hearing from someone who has actually used one
@@tristanbreen Heck yea man, that's freakin awesome!
fun fact: You can actually take the butt pad off to reveal a neat little compartment where you can store things like oil, backup firing pin, and a few other bits and bobs you might need when youre issued this gun as a soldier (well, at least the A1 version that i got issued had that, dunno if a2 and a3 have that aswell but i suppose so)
Also, you are not supposed to slap the mag on the aug, in training we were told at MOST you give it a little lovetap, but overall youre just supposed to firmly slot it into the gun and apply pressure by grabbing it with your whole hand, but dont slap it.
I do wonder if it's a magazine issue or something in the firearm? Does this happen with the AUS Pmags?
@@beefestrogen5276its a magazine issue. If it was the gun itself the issue would be during chambering, not during insertion of the mag when the gun is doing nothing to elicit malfunction. The mags Brandon got are probably too malleable or got warped in extreme heat so now they're "loose" so to speak. The AUGs that take AR mags don't have this issue.
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I am active Austrian military and i never ever had something like that happen to me. Seems like he just bought some shit mags
@@mr.noname9328 I was in a military that used plastic mags and we never slapped them. Metal yes, plastic no. It's a little weird to me to see a firearms enthusiast who does.
its an operator issue....
If you haven't already, I strongly suggest upgrading from the basic plastic trigger sear to a metal one.
TFBTV had great results with this little upgrade
30 round mags are the standard in the austrian army, it even says so in the field manual. Our instructor once told us that there were bigger mags for it but the army doesnt have them, only 30s
Because the 42rnd Mag was supposed to be used with HBAR version of the Aug. Giving an infantry squad some LMG capacity, at least that was indented purpose but the HBAR's were never aquired except a small patch for the Jagdkommando.
@@Ronin-ze2yi It seems like nobody except the Soviets had followed through with the "heavy rifle" LMG concept that was popular during the Cold War. I can understand the Germans (and, by extension, Austrians) saying "fuck it, we'll scale down a belt-fed to 5.56" - after all, they had the engineering expertise and manufacturing excellence to pull that off, especially considering the size of their armies at the time. Still, HK had a series of belt\mag-fed G3-derivatives with quick change barrels, and even managed to license and sell some to Portugal and some latinos, but it all folded along with G3 production in early 00s.
And between all the "future soldier" programs emphasizing wack shit like high-RPM burst-fire, programmable-fuse grenades and flechettes, US DoD had no time to consider the plight of the common grunt lugging around the lube-addicted Minimi and its fragile belt boxes.
It's kinda surprising that the RPK never got a decent competitor in the market during the spicy years of international conflict. The concept was proven time and time again, both as a whole and every specific component of it: RPK-based receivers are used for "Vepr" series of high-caliber AK variants, with Vepr-12 earning a reputation for reliability and longevity far in excess of comparable Saiga-12; ditto for heavy bull barrels; 40rd banana mags and 95rd drums are used to good effect with lighter AK variants by assaulters, close protection details and other specialists who prefer to achieve volume of fire without lugging an MG around.
I mean we have the MG 74 kinda understandable that conservative army generals chose to go with a NATO Mg-42 which is proven from the last time an Austrian stirred up some shit
Only the jagdkommando use the 42 round mags as standard. Hob noch keine Einheit gesehen wo 42er standard sind nur dass eine mal als ein GWD ausversehen ein 42er mag vom NUO bekommen hat xd
@@BlackBladeGroM Russians are switching to a belt fed LMG now, kind of shows that mag fed mg's aren't that great when even Russia is veering away from them
As a person who is bullpup curious it is important to have brave people like Brandon display that liking bullpups doesn’t mean you are a European.
Just bring up Kel-Tec's bullpups, they'll know you're western
That's why we have pride month
It could mean you are Chinese.
@@grimreminder5038 LOL! But if you want it for serious use, get something more reliable both in terms of mechanical and manual operation.
Tavor series and VHS-2 comes to mind. And I would say NO to MDRX, RDB and AUG from personal experience.
While that might be, I would rather believe that it is more likely Brandon just being nice to the slow kids in the gun design world.
Carried the carbine for a while, it was great. Light, reliable and accurate. Good rifle for a paratrooper. I should say, our F88c's had a lockout button under the trigger for fixed semi automatic fire.
Austrian here, was in the army last year. Never seen any 42 round mags, only 30 round. Also, it's not just the barrel that can be easily removed, the entire gun can easily be disassembled and reassembled really quickly.
From what others have replied, Steyr made 42 round magazines available, perhaps for an HBAR variant that didn't see wide adoption.
No military I believe outside of perhaps some special forces or counter terrorist groups took the magazines in
All military small arms worth a damn can be stripped and reassembled quickly and easily.
@@immikeurnot I thought so but then I don't get why people always make such a big deal about the AUG's barrel. If other guns can also be quickly disassembled then shouldn't the barrel also be removable like that?
I did a 5 day weapons course through cadets at 16....
I could strip and assemble the f88 austeyr in under a minute by the end of it...
@@IdoN_Tlikethis it’s just unnecessary complexity and cost on anything that isn’t a machine gun that requires barrel swaps.
Got to shoot a full-auto AUG when we did weapons training with the Austrian Army guys who were on the same unit with us. Easy to hit those weird turning auto-reset targets they had set up to 50 to 200 meters. The trigger really required an effort to go to fun mode. Austrians shot with our RK-95s, that was a fun day.
On the last range-day in the Austrian army we "accidentally" all forgot how to use our progressive triggers and magdumped into the targets.
Haha a loooot of push-ups followed but it was worth it.
Our drill instructor totally lost his mind "Xou don't want to screw up the assignment or I will personally punish you untill you throw up!... BRRRRRRT!"
that would be an extremely difficult choice for me between the AUG and the RK-95. But id likely choose the RK-95 because its made in Finland.
@@bobthompson4319 Some of the Austrians had similar ideas, but oh well, everyone had to leave the range with their issued rifles. Too bad our ride left just when the Austrians set up a MG 3 machinegun, would have been really cool to have a go with that.
Suomi perkele!!
@@mike9975 MG74 there is a slight difference to the german MG3.
I was in the New Zealand Army for 6 years and found the Styer to be a very good rifle. In thousands of live rounds I only ever had 3 or so stoppages (Blanks another issue). The donut of death meant you really had to work on the principals of marksmanship to get the best out of it. Will always hold a place in my heart.
lol these things with blanks are a pain the the ass. But far worse at shooting blanks is the fucking minimi
Yeah, then we switched to an m4 variant... and only got the long barrels for them. so they're a real pain when operating in vehicles or doing any other non shooting work. *sigh* yeah the steyr has a horrible trigger and it sucks in CQB when trying to transition, but in my opinion the compactness makes up for all that for non frontline roles, or even front line roles where you still have to quick sling and use both hands for something.
As a former austrian conscript (long ago though) it always seemed to me that the donut made it very easy to hit something for someone absolutely unexperienced with guns without much training.
Each one of our group in basic training managed to hit 6 of 6 moving mansized targets at 200m after having fired a total of maybe 15 live rounds before. (not just in basic training, none of us had ever fired a gun before our service)
The iron sights on the MG meant more brainpower to use them and more explanation by the instructors in my view.
Funny to hear that you guys had the same issues with blanks!
Many of my comrades put cigarett remains into the BFA which helped creating a bit more backpressuer for a short time. (and as a joke, using the austrian slang word for cigarette they called it "Tschig-tuning")
@@nirfz They really didn't like the blanks with many stoppages and a real pain to clean.We would deliberately try not to shoot too many blanks. I agree at normal combat ranges the donut was good but me personally once we went out to 300m that was where the limits of it were.
Ever take it into wet, sandy environments? I've had stoppages they didn't even have an actions on for with this pos. Hydro locked it, bent guid rails, got the trigger locked to full auto only .. it hates wet sandy conditions (shoalwater bay). Crawly 100m through the sand and it just frigging dies in the ass. Hks were much better, easy to clear stoppages.
In saying that, the styer is the best cqb rifle I've ever used. Second to none I'd say.
Fun fact about the quick change barrel. The AUG has a heavy barrel designed to convert a normal AUG into a Squad Automatic Weapon.
The quick change barrel is so that any AUG can be easily converted into a SAW, the SAW barrel could easily be switched to counter overheating the barrel, and by having one firearm fulfill both roles it allowed armies to streamline logistics.
Also I love how the AUG is ambidextrous with two ejection ports (one on each side). It is very rare for a gun to be designed to also facilitate left handed shooters.
converting the AUG into a SAW not only requires the HBAR (Heavy Barrel including a bipod) but also the change of the fire control unit - thus converting it from a closed bolt to an open bolt system. And although there are the 42rd mags the AUG still is not available with belr feeding.
The Irish Army Augs have an ALO, automatic lock out, on the bottom of the triggers. It's like a little button. If you pull it down then it stops the trigger going past semi auto, considering you will rarely use it. If you press it in then the trigger will go to full auto. It was a neat way to get around the annoying progressive firing.
Are you still in Ireland? Or over here in the states?
@@Captainkirk88410 still in Ireland
@@Kevc00 damn that means you can’t even own a semi auto version of this gun?
A yes, shooting them 40 year old A1 AUG's is so much fun! feck all recoil on them too.
@@Captainkirk88410 nope, you can only own a 22 conversion
The plasticky and poor feel of the AUG trigger is in reality due to entirely plastic trigger mechanism. Some people had exchanged parts in the trigger pack for metal ones, and the trigger feel improved out of sight according to them. If you get the metal parts for it, the feel will improve. If memory serves the Tavor also has an all-plastic trigger. But I might be wrong
Why did anyone ever think that an all plastic trigger was a good idea?
@@LordWaterBottle weight reduction bro!
@@theperson2346
It’s a trigger, not a stock. It’s like removing the headlight off of a car to remove weight from a rally car, and not the extra seats
And the linkage to the trigger being made of wire...
Yep. I cut a strip off a PBR can and wrapped it around the sear, lightened trigger pull weight a full pound and removed the grittiness.
I love Donut's entrance. His delivery on *"I'M FUCKIN' HOMELESS!"* had me cackling.
One of my favorite things on the AUG which you didn't cover is that you can rotate the internals and have it eject the casings out the left side for left handed shooters.
I really recommend the 20/20 sear upgrade. Significantly un-assifies the trigger.
Seconded, ordered one before I even took possession of my AUG, significant upgrade.
Un-assifies... 🤣
I hear throwing mud at the AUG really fixed a lot of its issues. Helps lubricate the trigger mechanism, among other things.
I have the ratworx sear too, even with the one transfer bar of the stanag version it is a huge improvement
Is the the same as unwankyfies?
Fun Fact: In Halo, the Styer AUG canonically shares it's operating system with the MA5 series, and is considered to be the first primary service rifle adopted by the UNSC.
Whoa buddy pal you got the sauce material?
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To me, the Aug sounds like the Reach DMR... anybody else kinda hear it?
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I have shot the AUG a couple of times. I thought it handled great. Has less movement than a AR. Just a pleasure to shoot. It is an outstanding firearm. Definitely one of my all-time favorites!!!
Brandon Herrera: *sees Steyr AUG in a gun store*
Also Brandon: "A fine addition to my collection!"
During my service in the Austrian military, I learned to respect the Stg. 77.
I still don't like 99% of polymer guns (just because polymer), but make an exception for the AUG. It's light, reliable, durable, easy to operate and maintain, and it just looks cool - what's not to like?
Trigger and lack of railspace, primarily.
Had this rifle in the Irish Defence Forces for 20 years and no problems. We never gave the magazine's a love tap (fecking stupid thing to do if You ask me), only thing I felt uncomfortable with was the front handle which I felt was too loose( for a better word ). Preferred the Belgian FAl even though it was twice the weight. The FAL in 5.56 would have been better.
I had no idea the AUG barrel just rotated out like that.
Also had to laugh at the end. Just casually pulls out M60 and just sends it lol love all the content. I always learn something and it’s fun to watch.
if i remember right they did that as they wanted it to act as an LMG as well it had a larger thicker barrel with bi-pod. it had 4 barrels 350mm Commando 407mm Carbine 505mm Assault Rifle and the 621mm Heavy Barrel Light Support Weapon.
Brandon: "Die hard- Which is still a Christmas Movie by the way"
YES! THANK YOU!
😂
The good old Styer, I remember when they came into Aussie service they quickly got the the name of the Tupperware gun, but they've proved their worth since we got 'em.
Don't fall for it
which Aussie? :-)
Just like the m16
People love to hate on the plastic
It never crossed my mind to consider pistols as bullpups until Brandon brought this up. Now I will believe that this is the case and nobody will ever dissuade me.
worst trigger in recorded history...kinda like slowly squeezing a tomato...never know when its gonna pop
Then you'll have to check out the Boberg XR9S, a bullpup pistol design. Forgotten Weapons has a video on it.
Might aswell add the Uzi and some other mags in the grip smgs then
Now I wanna know if there's bullpup tube fed shotties
@@jimbothegymbro7086 I think that the KSG 12 classifies as a bullpup
An Argentinian army commando told me once "it is so satisfying to aim the target with the Steyr AUG, shoot and watch the whole in the exact spot you had aimed".
But as a drawback, he also told me during hot days the reticle tends to blur so you've got to use the back up sights, which are not great.
Well, the AUG accuracy has been well portrayed in video games then, because that's the reason why I like using it so much. I want my bullets to go where I aim, on the flip side, it means I need to get good at aiming because I can't be sloppy with my aim and still get kills.
they are not so much back up sights(first gen) but rather night time battle sights. shoots a bit high, but during night shooting, most shoot low, atleast on the range.
Shouldnt that be every weapon you calibrate the scope?
The aug every soldier from austria gets is shit😂
Oh and they are back-up sights
@@benjaminhackl3429 The level of accuracy of a firegun is an expression of how the manufacturer created the weapon. Velocity of the bullet or barrel length have no effect on accuracy (Unless you change a 20 inch barrel for one of 7.5 inches).
The Austrian soldiers might be using rifles that suffered too much wear along the decades.
@@Kriegerdammerung nah not too much wear... they suffered from too less care😅
I loved this rifle when I served in the Australian army. Very reliable and accurate. Easy to take the barrel off which makes it very easy to clear blockages. No worries hitting someone in the chest at 300m.
Saw a demo where a guy was hitting man sized targets out to fuckin 800m
Ah, the good ol' days of running this in the Australian Army and watching recruits accidentally squeeze off a burst of full auto on the range.
Yeah, they started to work on an "auto lock" to fix that....
Yeah, I'll put my hands up. I did that once on the range and never did it again after getting a bollocking for doing so.
Australian Army uses their own custom developed variant from what I understand, am I right?
@@VerdeMorte Yes, the EF88
Guilty
The mag well/reload mechanism, the overall compactness, the built-in collapsible foregrip, and just overall aesthetically pleasing design...it's all here for the Steyr AUG.
Kudos, Brandon. Glad you shot (yet again) another iconic classic.
Cheers.
The AUG is certainly on my wishlist of guns. Find it interesting how the Australians adopted it too, would have assumed they'd kept with a traditional design instead of a bullpup.
TFBTV has some interesting vids going over the Australian army weapons test, M16 vs the AUG
Australia has used the AUG since it was basically released
We’ve also made lots of changes to it. Added a bolt release button, removed the quick change barrel, made it all black, changed the cocking handle to add a forward assist, and changed up some of the picitiny railing to better fit our night fighting equipment
Australia starts with "AU", and the AUG starts with "AU". It's a no brainer why they adopted it 🤦♂️
If I recall correctly Colt wanted all M16A2s built in America but Styre was like build it where ever the fuck you like, and that was the winning argument for the AusGov
Three things to add: 1. We always used old M16 cleaning kits (steel rod) to clean it in service, 2. load the magazine rather than slamming it, and 3. When you are operating out of vehicles on uneven ground, periodically check the safety as it can slip if you and the weapon are being thrown around over rocks. There are some other quirks of the weapon, but beyond youtube. Reasonable bit of kit, but in my view M16A2 was overall better for jungle operations.
As someone living in Austria:
I am very glad that we managed to push the blame for moustache-guy to our beloved german neighbours :D
Not really, wasn't that art school Austrian? 😉
I didn't know Arnold had a mustache....
Also as someone living in Austria:
I'd like to add that every year in summer and winter when the retired german tourist hoardes incapable of driving up a mountain road invade our tourist spots, they pretend that austria is not a seperate country, and we pretend that we are their buddies, then when they finally leave, we count our green euro notes, and we thank the lord that we're not part of germany.
When an Austrian has a successful career in the arts, we get Arnold Schwartzenegger. When an Austrian has an unsuccessful career in the arts...
I thought he was talking about strache
First time I watched Die Hard as a kid back in the eighties, I'd assumed that the goofy looking gun the guy was using was some sort of fake movie prop made up to look futuristic. That idea stuck with me so long that even after I knew what a Steyr Aug looked like I still didn't put the pieces together for an embarrassingly long time.
Check out the Irish Defence forces AUG. They have a custom model AUG where Steyr put in a trigger with a selector built into the trigger itself for single / auto fire modes (Once you put it in Auto though that shits staying progressive pull until you have 30 seconds free).
So you can go full Auto with a single pull trigger until you engage the full auto lockout then its a progressive trigger, win win!
They also have a custom cocking handle with a into battery button to smack it in M4 style but on the cocking handle itself. They Irish also created a custom M203 mount for the barrel.
So they made it more alcohol friendly...
Good job Ireland
Unfortunately we dont have a button release on our AUGs in the irish defence forces. Gotta give it the good aul HK slap.
Thanks!
To all my Irish defence forces brethren who had to qualify with the a1 optic at 300m, I see you, and I respect you
Aussies too hahaha 1.5x is not a real magnification :P
There are a handful of “quality of life” upgrade parts you can find for this rifle. 20/20 precision aluminum trigger sear, ARID aluminum trigger/ safety combo, and of course just about anything that comes from Corvus Defensio. Without a doubt the AUG has a troll toll, but the things I mentioned really make the rifle ascend to the next level. I’ve had mine for years and only recently tried steel ammunition (shitty under powered .223 Tula) and it cycled without fail. Perhaps a little wear and break-in is needed before it accepts cheap stuff?
Wait you have Tula? How good sir? I really want to know, cause im running Low!
@@derwolf3006 you can still get cases shipped to your door, check ammoseek
Why no 1:7 twist 20” barrel?
What if you always ran the gas block on ADVERSE mode on steel cased ammo?
When I worked at a shooting range we had one of these for rent. While it was probably the most reliable bullpup we had on the rental racks, I couldn't stand it because the trigger on ours was god awful. Maybe I'm too used to match triggers in my ARs, but pulling the AUG's trigger is like towing a trailer with no tires over a gravel pit.
All bullpup triggers are plastic junk with 10 pound trigger pulls they just suk
Nein, rifle is fine
@@timothycain4512 mine are fine, x95 and vhs2 are perfectly suited for 500 yard shots. Not "good" triggers but they are definitely serviceable. They both break clean. I'll still be replacing them but they are actually better than the AUG, SAR, ect by a large margin.
Accurate
@@timothycain4512 no, I guess you have never shot a Tavor x95
The A1 was my service rifle and I was in the austrian army when they started to switch to the A3. So just some extra info you missed out on:
1.) There is still a A3 Version with the scope on top. They even added 3 more rails to the scope so you can put a red dot on top and other stuff to the side. It's called the AUG A3 SF. We started to adopt it in 2003 but most of the army still uses the A1.
2.) The progressive trigger was chosen for the same reason the trigger guard is extended over the grip. The weapon was made for fighting in the alps in sub zero temperatures while using mittens. Thats the same reason why the safety is a push trough and not a switch. I know it still suckes but at least there is a reason for it^^ (At least thats what I was told)
Brandon you have to adjust the trigger to get the play out. Take the aug down without removing the rod that sits on the trigger. Loosen the bolt holding the trigger rod in place. Pull it out halfway. Use the trigger pack to push the rod back in. Then tighten the rod bolt down and reinstall the barrel and trigger pack. The play in the trigger will be gone and it’ll feel less mushy. Someone please let Brandon know about this process.
That.... Sounds easy compared to the procedures i've heard for removing play in other bullpups
Considering gun ownership here in Germany is a lot of paperwork and pretty costly, I'm planning to eventually get a single rifle when I'm 21-25.
And I already know it will be an AUG. From people I've talked to that own one, I've only heard positive things. It also looks just neat and has that austrian precision xD
Also considering my small dimensions even for woman I think a compact bullpup is a reasonable choice
ehmm... based?!?!
@@Lofi.z34 yeah the trigger is just usual bullpup the Tavors is much better in my opinion
@@Lofi.z34 theres a way to make it decent
Just make sure to get a feel for it before buying; without an adjustable stock, and (I'm assuming) shorter arms, it might be a little uncomfortable shouldering it.
Same except I want a scar 🤷🏻♀️
I've had my 16" A3 (non M1) rifle + a 9mm kit and a spare 5.56 24" LMG barrel for about 8 years now. I have never had the rounds hop out of any factory mags or any AUG PMAG's when doing an insertion check smack, but that's not to say it isn't an issue with some mags. I will attest that mine will not cycle cheap Tula steel case .223. While they will extract and eject when manually operating the bolt, on firing the bolt does not make it far enough back for the spent case to hit the ejector or for the bolt to pick up the next round in the mag. Not sure if they are just that underpowered, or if they are causing excess friction on extraction, but yeah. Thankfully no stuck casings the couple times I have tested steel. All that said, in 8 years and several thousand rounds of brass .223 and 5.56, I've had zero malfunctions, with either length barrel. The 9mm conversion (6th gen) has also been 100% reliable with the AUG specific 25rd mags it came with. I've not tried any of the MPi 81 32rd mags.
My AUG A3M1 will run Tula steel case reliably. But only with the gas system set to adverse and a little extra oil on a patch through the chamber. I don't run it very often but sometimes when I take friends to the range I'll use the cheap stuff.
@@EthosAtheos I hadn't tried running it on adverse with the steel. I might give that a try next time I find a box of steel case laying around at work.
Aussie here, ex-ADF. The Austeyr is still our rifle of choice. In my time in the army I've used the F88, F88SA1, F88SA1C, F88SA2 and the EF88. It's probably been said before but our Steyrs have a wee plug called an "automatic lockout" located at the base of the trigger. In the exposed position that plug prevents the weapon before fired past semi-auto. Flip that bad boy up for full auto fun. Happy lead chucking!
P.S yeah love tapping the mag.. we don't do that here.
I can only imagine how people reacted when AUG, G36 and F2000 first came out. I'm sure they called them "Space Rifles". 😂
They werent a new idea. Look up em2 rifle.
All fun and games until you see g11 rifle
@@kristijanmedved6066 kraut space magic
basically the result of austrians weapon industrys with gernany while WW2
@@Tristan-42069 yes
My AUG is all white, 20" barrel, integral 1.5x scope, and a Glock brand bayonet. About same size as a 10.5" AR. It's so fun it's unreal
I read that last as "So, it's a funeral. " That struck my fancy.
Pics?
Glock makes bayonets?
All white? Its drip or drown and brother you're doing the butterfly.
@@barlowjmb yep.
Being Austrian, i served with the Steyr AUG, though i only got to shoot it twice (i hit! Both times!).
It´s great how simple the gun is to disassamble, i haven´t held it in hand for 20 years now and i´m confident i still could do it blind.
Trigger is hard to pull though, but that´s generally a downside of bullpups.
3:25
this is why, for me at least, I associate Bullpups with either sniper rifles, because longer barrel with same size rifle, or CQC/CQB, smaller rifle with same size barrel
I was in AUS Army Cadets and we got to use the F88 model of it. Originally I was abit annoyed that it wasn’t an M4 and we’d heard rumours about how the AUG is inaccurate. But man after I held, fired and learned how to reload and strip the gun it became my favourite thing ever. And no it’s not inaccurate, it’s the user who is inaccurate.
It's too bad, AUS Army cadets are only permitted to live fire CZ 452 .22 rifles now.
@spiderboy8062 lol wut? That sucks man, back in the day you had a morning on the range with the F88 at annual, and if you were lucky enough to be near a base with WESSCS or whatever the acronym was you got a day there as well
@@spiderboy8062 Considering the reputation of Army Cadets, it wouldn’t be surprising. Got to fire the F88 while I was in the Air Force Cadets and I had a lot of fun with it. Acquired my marksman badge on the rapid fire section. Although it was fun conducting Styer drill, I still preferred SLR drill and wished they were still available to shoot.
I was actually issued an Aug with one of the few agencies that did so in the US. We were trained to never hit the magazine to seat it in the gun. Mags were gripped and pushed in until seated. I always assumed it was to protect the feed lips.
Tell me you were with ICE without saying your with ICE.
14:51 actually happened to me with an AR once, steel flake and all. I think the dark grey Lacquer Tula used was notorious for sticking in chambers so they changed it a couple years ago (now the cases are lighter grey and rougher on the outside).
Every time you call it a gun I can hear my old platoon sergeant yelling ‘IT’S A RIFLE!!!’
The 42 rounds mag is the standard only for the LMG, the AUG HB...a pretty rare version equiped with a heavier and longer(621mm instead of 508 for the rifle) barrel with a bipod(and a different flash hider/brake) adopted by uh...only luxemburg ,as far as i know
Go Luxembourg :D as a luxembourgish person I am happy that someone knows the existance of my home country xD
Love the Steyr Aug ! Used it a lot during my compulsory military service in the Austrian army
Greetings from 🇦🇹❤️
I love your country and your rifles!
You guys have great surplus stuff too
Of course you were......
@@nokneaustria has mandatory military service for male austrians who are 18 or older. Chances are he was a conscript like me and a few of my friends
@@nokne yeah man everyone everywhere is lying about everything
The old New Zealand Army Aug is one of the only two rifles I've ever held. The second being the replacement for the Aug, The MARS-L. Personally I preferred the feel of the AUG
Im a Fellow Kiwi, thanks for ya service mate
Same here. The trigger is feels like plastic rubbing on plastic (dogshit), but the way it sits in the shoulder is so comfy
All the aussies i worked with, were more than happy to ditch their AUSteyrs for some M4A1 love. They let me try it out, i hated it immediately. The trigger makes that thing crap, too heavy and awkward. Makes rhe M240B trigger seem like a precision trigger by comparison
Love the fact that you can cock it by swinging it like a cricket bat
Same here in Aussie land, much lighter the then the SLR we trained with....
We use them in the Australian military. It was referred to as the Tuppaware gun.
I remember that nickname. I used the F88C.
Ha-ha, yep, I used to call it that too 😂 I joined in '87 so started on the SLR (FAL for not Aussie or Brits) and initially took me a bit to get used to the F88. Have to say I eventually warmed to it, much better for building clearing.
I also can honestly say I never got a 'Steyr Eye' but I learned that from others 🤣🤣
@@keithad6485 RAAC?
@@1337flite Royal Australian Armoured Corps
The quick change barrel, is a way to get around the jamming problems with steel rounds.
A bit drastic but it does work.
We got one of the old ones that was sent to the naval department for testing with the navy seals, the original optic is very suboptimal
Yes an optic from the early 70s would be. But consider it would be almost 20 years later that the M16/M4 would get optics as standard kit.
suboptimal for which use case... The intention was to have something that is easy to use without any previous knowledge about marksmanship, that is rugged enough for daily use by soldiers.
I would even claim that the original one can take more beating than most other optics i have seen someone put on it on the interweb.
-> Mine got smaked with a broomhandle in full swing, it did retain zero and had no damage. (we had some "empty rifle defense" training and one instructor decided to surprside me after my trainig was done with a "more realistic approach". So when defending, i parried with the optic before almost injuring him with the muzzle.)
Getting roped down passively a 40m rock drop quite agressively meant i got smacked against a rock wall several times. At the end, the guy operating the rope dropped me from around 2m of height on the ground and i hit it with my back. What dampened my impact in the first case was the rifle and it's optics in the second case my big backpack prevented back injuries, but the rifle impacted the ground next to my backpack. Did keep zero and had no damage apart from even more paint taken off the upper housing. (it was already old when it got issued to me. It was an A0 rifle with an A1 reticle.)
During my service 99/00 we had roughly a 50:50 mixture of A0 and A1 reticles in our platoon. (Some of the rifles were A1 variants too, so not even half of the rifles issued to us had gotten a replacment optic or optic-internals at some point in their 20 years of use.)
I used that 1,5x fixed optic in 2001/2002. it was...a compromise. but given that we were boys and conscripted it was probably good. but since the point in time of full equipment of the Austrian Armed Forces with the AUG there's several generations of Gen X, Gen Y and Gen Z Austrians that don't know how to use iron sights.
Honestly, out of the bullpups I've shot (only 4) I liked the choice my son picked for his first big boy caliber that I bought him for high school graduation. That would be the Keltec RDB with a 17.5" barrel. It shoots good, the trigger isn't complete horseshit like most bullpups, and its fairly intuitive to learn the controls. The one downside I noticed is the concussion blast you get when standing to the side of it due to the enclosed action and downward ejection. With that said, don't stand next to it. Lol!
I need one of those, my crippling Kel-Tec addiction demands it.
Love my RDB. Friend just bought an AUG A3 and I'll have comparisons soon. 4 bullpups is a lot of bullpups, I've yet to get in the vicinity of a Tavor or Hellion yet.
When you say "like most bullpups" what exactly are you comparing against? I don't know of a single one that was produced in any respectable quantity that doesn't have at least one if not multiple aftermarket trigger packs. And my friend's MDR shoots crisp right out of the box. But people just wanna repeat groupthink
@@rodiculous9464 I've shot the Aug, Tavor, and P90. All were stock triggers and not that good in my opinion. As for after market triggers, I dont know of any for the RDB or P90. Maybe you can enlighten me with your groupthink?
As someone who used the "STG 77", "Sturmgewehr from 1977 (never heard "AUG") in the Austrian Military (also on the border, Yugoslavian war 1991): the biggest advantage for a soldier is that is very easy to clean, you put the plastic parts in water and there aren´t many steel parts, much less time consuming than other rifels :) The sensible trigger is bad for beginners, later on you become used to it. I live nearby Steyr, my cusin made the tools for producing this guns plastic corps. It has an muzzle velocity of 990 m/s originally over 1000 m/s, which was not allowed in Austria, therfore has been reduced to 990.
I trained with that when I was in the Australian army as well the newer variant. The style that’s in the video was notorious for ADs when the stock of the weapon was tapped hard enough. Many a day out field was interrupted by a random round popping off whenever someone dropped their rifle.
Funny, 23 years in and never heard that before, but I have heard a lot of other excuses for NDs
The "engineers" added a "drop-safety" mech to the firing mech. I don't know if it worked as intended,. I have a long-standing personal aversion to dropping weapons or other items of value.
Diggers fooling around with the trigger extension rod settings could and did get into dangerous territory. All it took was a too much "pre-load" on the sear slide and nasty things could happen. There is supposed to be NO "preload, but instead "free-play" such that with the safety ON the trigger extension rod is CLEAR of the sear. It makes for a "less-than stellar" take-up on "fire" but you get used to it. It is a COMBAT weapon, not a single-shot, precision, long-range target rifle, after all.. I know of several close calls on live ranges, but these were not from dropped rifles, but "operator error" regarding the condition of the safety catch and the position of the trigger finger. TRAINING and VERIFICATION matter.!
Part of the "active attitude adjustment" training was to have random days where the entire unit ALL drew a rifle and a magazine containing blank cartridges and had to keep it within reach all day, regardless of whether you were a motor-mechanic, cook, clerk, blanket-stacker or whatever. I never heard any sudden loud noises on those occasions (apart from the sort of things you hear in big mechanical workshops).
Funny how people get all careful when there are consequences for "lapses".
I liked my l1a1 slr instead of the aug . Im old school though . Close combat my browning took over . The l1a1 was a bit long in occupied building searched . Plus its bloody loud in a building when firing off rounds . I was a sapper . Good times blowing shit up .
Love the vid!
I served in the Australian Army and used the F88 (AUG A1)
I can confirm she DOES NOT like steel casing AT ALL!
Also, dont smack the mag in, roll it in and it's a sweet sweet deal.
The progressive trigger is awesome, if you're used to AR platform, it's a big difference but any weapon is only as good as the operator.
I love my AUG. Its just a fantastic weapon.
Looks awesome, it's accurate ... oh, the 16" barrel is great but the 20 is even better.
Love the PIG at the end!
Thanks for the great content
did you ever trying opening up the gas port all the way for steel rounds?
@@jimmyrecard6021 yeah, the steel casing jams in the ejection port causing a stoppage.
I did manage about 40 rounds at first without issues but after that it was 50/50 success rate.
brass casing ... 100% success
@@keithbuddrige1210 ah
4:27 I almost cried when Brandon said this. So inspiring.
oh hey it’s you
You're one the few that received a lot of hearts from this channel.
Fun Fact:
One Time a small yipyap magazine in Austria made an this or that Interview with the Minister of Defence (basically if she prefers this or that). One of the questions was what she would do in a marriage argument; the options were a thought out conversation with the husband or steyr aug.
Her choice was the steyr aug.
I love how all the major guntube channels are coming together more now. Honestly makes my day so much better. 🤙🏼
I agree. Brings a sense of community to it.
Awesome video mate, if you want to see really in-depth and complete comparison the Australian Defence Force conducted L1A1 v's Steyr AUG and M4 contract back in the 90's. Clear and definitive winner was the Steyr and has been the standard Australian military system since. All-be-it produced as AUS-Steyr under license with some modifications.. single shot lock-out being one :)
They were actually quite brutal with the testing and the comments at the end are certainly worth a read, I have not seen testers be so honest in any other contract test.
idk man, had a chat with some warrant officer the other day and he reckons a lot of why the AUG was chosen had to do with licensing and Colt's refusal to let us make M4s in Australia back in the day and Steyr giving us the all clear to let Lithgow manufacture the F88s locally.
@@Morpho-5.56 that was the primary reason, colt wouldn’t let us license manufacture the m4.
If the aug was the clear and definitive winner why did the sasr adopt the m4 ? Dont get me wrong its a great gun, both platforms are, but as the others said it was chosen due to being able to manufacture locally.
@@robmicheal511 thinking the SASR as well as various commando regiments that use the M4 platform do so as they say, because they can :) They also use the 417 and a plethoria of other alternates to suit their specific needs in that role. Not an expert but I did like the read on that comparison and just thought it would be useful to those who wanted to know is all.
@@robmicheal511 22 SAS also run the Commando for the same reason SASR do: interoperability. It's simple logistics.
Steyr have made so many iconic arms that just look cool, like the ssg series, the steyr scout, TMP andthe m1912 (not to mention the other funky pistols they made in the 1900s)
My Mannlicher 1905 is a thing of real beauty.
Their M9 series of pistols are pretty funky too. I've shot the L9-A2 quite a bit. Excellent pistol IMO, great recoil control and crazy but more than functional scifi sights.
Probably someone else wrote it too, but I was a draftee in the Austrian Army in 2000 and the 42 round magazines are NOT standard. The 30 round mag is standard issue. Each soldier got five of those in my day. We used a carrying system related to the US ALICE system, where we had two pouches in front with two mags each and one in the gun.
I loved this gun and how compact, sturdy and yet accurate it was. I personally found it also very easy to operate. To the point where I could disassemble and reassemble (not field strip!) it blind in less than 1,5 minutes
thank you Brandon I thought I had just talked myself out of buying and aug but there goes that
You’d probably prefer the Austeyr EF88 which is built under patent in Lithgow Australia for the Australian Army. They made vast improvements on the AUG weapon platform and it is a highly reliable, versatile and accurate firearm. It has full auto heavy barrel additions also for a LSW.
As an Australian, I love the Aug. it looks great and it’s quite nice. Thanks for reviewing!
I thought it was Austrian, not Australian. Hence the reference to Arnold Schwarzenegger.
@@jason86768 It is Austrian, the Australian army uses a modified version, I don't remember what they changed exactly.
@@jason86768 just look up the f88 Austeyr or the F90 MBR
@@stever285 the new one has a bolt release latch similer to the M4, its also got a non folding front foregrip that has a bipod built in (still plastic) its also under 4kg and a few smaller things changed as well as overall length being shorter
We Irish use it too.
Our own modified version.
I have one got it way back in 1986. LOVE IT. Mie was the A1 version with the 3 prong flash hider. The carry handle also had a 1.5 power scope.
I got to carry one in the Australian Army, Steyr C, shorter version for the RAAC. Loved the thing.
The AUG is a great rifle. To this day, it still looks futuristic and ahead of its time.
"I'M FUCKING HOMELESS"
That sounded way too genuine
.....who was that guy by the way? 😕
@@LordPorkChop84 homeless man
@@LordPorkChop84 Donut Operator.
@@LordPorkChop84 I dunno.
But he give me this silver bullet!
And it is a light gun. I used the first STG77 Version, and it was a huge difference if you had to carry a STG77 or an older, much heavier rifle. Shooting with this rifle was great fun, even total newbes like me at that time were easily able to hit targets 300 meters away. Early shoot and forget, so to speak......
Light compared to older rifles, maybe, but not compared to an AR15. I have an AUG A3M1 with Manticore Arms scope mount and Vortex PSTII 1-6x24 scope, and it weighs 9.5lbs / 4.3kg. The scope adds some weight compared to the factory optic, for sure, but I’d still say the AUG is heavier than modern competitors. I still love it, though.
Theory: Brandon isn’t actually hitting steel plates, he’s just adding those sound effects in afterwards
Someone is standing by with a rod & steel plate to clank at each shot.
I was thinking he got better at shooting, but then figured he had someone calibrate the sight for him
I love the Aug, despite many soldiers not being a fan. My daughter carried one for 8 months in one of the world's most dangerous places. She loves it too.
Wow, Lucky you, winner👍
America?
@@MostlyPennyCat my exact same guess
@@DeezNuds
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His daughter's probably a 6th grader!
@@MostlyPennyCat good thing she had the aug then 😂
These were standard issue in NZ for some time. My range instructor could field strip it in about 7 seconds flat.
just to give you more info it is also used by the Australian armed forces it also has a long barrel version for sniper ability the original version has the switch between single shot and burst and full automatic as I have fired one when I was in the Australian army cadets, and you get to fire them as a second year cadet at annual camp, the removable barrel is multipurpose for checking clear chamber or switching from assault rifle to sniper in the field relatively quick without carrying the extra weight of a second weapon for better mobility in the field.
I was in the cadets from 1971 to 73, SMLE (.303), FN SLR, Bren (.303), and M60 - what the hell were they thinking! There was always a regular army guy beside you waiting to break the link belt if you went a bit nuts on the M60. >:-)>
I have an old Preban AUG, I really like it. The trigger is nowhere as good as my Tavor, or any of my ARs but it just feels right in the shoulder. I have never had that issue with my mags, but then they just click in so positively I don’t tap them, just a little tug to make sure they locked
I see brandon upload, I click. It's simple.
Based
It's just science!
Amen brother
Simple life, happy life…
Right?
I remember an Australian Army bloke telling me in the mid 1990's that their nickname for this gun was the "Tupperware Rifle"
Sounds pretty fitting for the time. 😃
@@OptimalToast Tupperware is more 70s or 80s.
@@RealKlausSchwab yes, would agree that by the 90s it had well faded away from its original popularity and ubiquiousness, but the people who grew up and lived in the 70s and 80s were the people in the army during the 90s. So would make sense that they would still be using Tupperware references in the 90s even though it had faded in popularity and relevance.
I served In Australian army within the infantry and when we got those and all we ever did was squeeze off full auto when down on the range so we had to pull down the chicken button underneath the trigger then after time it was hard to even go full auto. Rotating bolt with 7 locking lugs
When Brandon said he’d make it up to us for the AUG Not being full auto I said to myself “he better have some thing belt fed”did not disappoint
The Aussies in Iraq let us use their AUGs at the range some times. They are pretty amazing and are even better with the integrated sight changed out for a rail.
The AUG is a cool gun, I'd like to see it make a return someday. Perhaps when talk about ergonomics on gun's you could compare the manual of arm's/ergonomics of the AUG, AR-15 and AK-74? How do they stack up to each other, what's better or worse considering the scenario etc.
Thanks for using the word scenario! That makes a big differenc in my opinion. (as does what you are used to)
As many often view these rifles from a match shooting perspective that in some areas emphasises different things than the standard infantery use. (mag changes for example: Dropping mags is normal in matches, less so in the field if your life could depend on keeping your mags from getting dirt in them. A big mag button might be advantageous in really cold weather, but irrelevant in a match. Same for the trigger guard of the AUG that is designed that you can use mittens, nobody would need that, or do that in a match.)
As for the manual of arms: i have to say the only guntuber i have seen so far who reloaded the AUG like soldiers got taught to, was Garandthumb. Everybody else took it out of the shoulder and tilted it sideways.
I loved the AUG, great little rifle and the sound of it firing brings back the nostalgia. Earned my marksmans badge, top of my class, in the RNZAF with it. Original A1 with the 0.5 scope, 30 round mags. Breaking it down to clean was pretty simple.
Used the basic F88 Austyer during my service.
Back when they didn't have a picatinny rail and they had a fixed 1.5 scope in the carry handle. Here's some of my general observations...
Be careful with the safety of you lay the rifle on the ground... Also, like any rifle with a scope, keep your eye away from it lol, can't tell you how many people, mostly used to open sighted L1A1 SLRs, or not used to shooting at all, succumbed to "Steyr-eye" injuries (Nice circular incision made around sighting eye)...
We used to wash the plastic stock in the shower during recruit training hahaha!
The early ones have issues... Mags occasionally fell off whilst running. Or rounds jumping up onto the chamber...
After a while the barrel release button can get a bit loose... As can the ejection port blank, if it's constantly being swapped over to accommodate "wrong handers"...
We used either the bayonet, (or, out of desperation, the end of a 5.56 F1 round) to pull the single shot lockout button back out after some rapid fire fun 😀... Does yours not have full auto functionality?
Fired thousands of rounds out of one, found even with the 1.5 scope, it could be as accurate as hell.
Saw a demo where they deliberately ran over one with a Leopard AS1 tank, to demonstrate how robust the Austyer was. Yes, it did damage it, but yes, it was still functional. I don't think it could be disassembled again, the plastic firing mech was wedged into the butt. But it did still fire!
And yeah, military user guide says steel casing rounds may cause stoppages. Also, after doing obstacle course runs, a condom over the flash suppressor keeps mud, dirt, water and gunk out of the barrel, and consequently, after running, climbing, crawling etc, from getting into the breach... Lots of stoppages... Particularly with blanks. Under normal conditions, when live firing, I only had maybe 6 stoppages. In the mud and sludge out bush (when you are literally crawling through mud and slush) stoppages (usually with blanks) could be as many as nearly 1 in 5 rounds fired. Annoying as hell, as you can't exactly strip and clean your rifle in a contact situation haha!
Also featured on the movie "Harley Davidson and the Marlboro Man"...
Enough "war and peace"...
Thanks for another great video Brandon 👍🏻👍🏻
putting condoms over barrels
bro, you're a genius
@@kekula69 pretty standard, diggers still do it today
Fellow digger here, been using the F88SA2 and EF88 most of my career, and i agree with you entirely.
The new sights and kits though are a night and day improvement, 1x to 4x sight with red dot built in, integrated bipod in the foregrip, lowered weight and the barrel is now secured to the reviever assembly.
But dont worry, the minimi is still the biggest hunk of wasted steel imaginable lol
@@ChaoticMartian it's still pretty genius
"wrong Hander" here that got yelled at Kapooka in '94 for showering the guy to my left with hot brass on the 200m mound when I "accidentally" knocked the full auto lockout under the trigger up.. poor bastard was copping brass bukakke from both sides that day.
Also I'm kinda short and enjoyed the shorter length of this weapon, I didn't experience the stoppages so much..
I carried a F88 GLA ( M203, detachable scope and no bayonet lug) once the M79 went away (didn't miss carrying the wombat gun around to be honest).
That magazine uses elevation to snap into place, you slide it in and then pull back. its even faster than hitting the magazine in which also has the possibility to let it drop. At least thats how I was trained with the A1
Horrible design.
Or they could have just.... Made it so you can insert the magazine like a normal person. Which happens to work great.
@@DevDog67 Imagine this, not every weapon is the same and some may even try things differently. You don't have to like it.
Yeah, I used to just put it in and give a little tug to make sure it's locked. No need for any slapping the bottom bullshit, was even told not to slap it in recruit training, never had a problem.
@@RealKlausSchwab No, smart. Instead of slapping a magazine like a fucking ogre, you make less noise and move your hand in a "circular" motion in your reload cycle. It's not fucking hard, and it's not horrible by any measure.
I was in the austrian military, the 42 round mags are used for the machine gun Version of the AUG.
which branch uses the mg version of the aug?
@@phipschi4255 None. The MG versoion was never adopted. Actualy the Jagdkomando get´s the 42rd Mags standart issued.
@@dominikr.7608 oh, i thought that already. haven't seen one in my entire gwd
I was in the Kiss army, we were unarmed but never outnumbered! 😂
30 rounds are the standard mags we use in Austria.
The 42 one is for the "LMG" version you get when you change the barrel for the longer, heavy, barrel with bipod.