5:40 Why didn't you just edit the target production rate instead of the clock speed? You'll get an even 20 and it'll auto-fill the clock speed to 66.666666666667 etc. Doesn't really make a difference in practice, I guess, but I personally like things to be neat like that.
Probably a matter of "old habits die hard" from when you could only change the clock speed. But I definitely agree with you. Much easier to just adjust the target production rate.
I'd say it's up to Edna. Lower pressure if she's got the steering wheel. Personally, I'd have her ride herd on you doing some basic tasks, and then maybe the two of you can share a dedicated server, where you can invite others to join the the play.
I never considered using the "cannon" setup just to boost the in-tube speed. I've only ever seen Hyper Tube Cannons used for game-breaking air-time stunts. Mind you, it makes me wonder what the effect is of hitting the "injection" stage on the way out. Might need to play with this a bit. (Psst, the description text is for the previous video.)
on the way out, you boop on the exit of the boosting stages, that's all :) i've been using those accelerators for a long time and if you lay your tubes fairly level all across, it's a damn quick way to cross the whole map without the risks of missing your landing :)
This video inspired me to set up and 'express" tube across the map from a limestone mine on the west edge to the quartz near the east edge. I set up 15 entrances to get a time of 1 min 27 sec. (unaccellerated, 4 and a half min) The speed effects of slope still apply inside the tube. It really helps those long, slow uphills on unaccellerated tubes. The route I chose goes over the big hill in the middle of the map. It's slightly faster than the game can update the mesh LOD on the terrain, everything gets all blocky with blurred texures. The fastest segments of the journey don't have time for the trees to show up.
No head starts! Figuring things out for yourself is always more fun, and it will help get Edna into the game more. Having things done for you or being told what to do generally makes things more boring quicker. Get her in a video or on a stream learning and taking pointers, but that's it!
my first hypertube was to get to the top of my 7 story factory...I cleverly fitted it to the ceiling so I could just walk under it and get sucked up. worked brilliantly, then I used it to get back down.... turns out I wasn't nearly as clever designer as I thought .
4 months late so things have already happened probably, but the idea I had in mind was Edna playing a couple episodes with you in discord with her, but you are spectating, we switch back and forth from both your POVs, and you try to teach her how to play, how to do certain techniques etc. It'd also be a great way for myself to truly learn the more complicated stuff. Then after that, I'd love to see a coop with the both of you. Otherwise, if I can only have one, I'd go for coop playthrough, switching back and forth with the POV, and you trying to teach her a lot, but also showing the goofy stuff she ends up doing as a new player because that would be wholesome and funny as hell
I'd love to see you play alongside Edna for her first time playing, but be extremely hands-off. You can't build, or tell her what to do. Tips and Pointers are ok if she's feeling frustrated/stuck, but try to avoid that. This would be a perfect opportunity to test coffee stain's onboarding process and see how it caters to a brand new player. (And depending on how it goes, could provide feedback)
I'd let Edna get the first space elevator parts before you start helping her. There is a lot to gain by getting to that point and getting comfortable with the game. Once you're there it makes a lot more sense to get help to scale up.
Well yeah, of course teach your love how to play one of the best games of all time! But when it comes to playing and streaming, I agree with others that say it should be up to her when and where she takes the reins and how much help she would like. Whichever starting point and level of advice equals the most enjoyment, do that. Whatever causes frustration, don't do that. Also a good approach for relationships in general since you definitely did not ask for relationship advice.
Early on 10MW per entry is expensive. You can do it with 4+1 ( maybe even as few as 2 by making a circle / oval then it will push you out of the gap when you are fast enough ) then have it launch you.... I also use a timed circuit for my landing pads around the map ( power coming in, to power switch, switch to battery and battery to jump pad power )... Then you switch the power on for 10 seconds, switch it off and you have about 10 seconds which is more than enough to launch you.
I'm so happy you get to be together again! As much as I love watching (and learning from) your videos, I really hope you guys have a wonderful time in Mexico and miiiight be able to find forgiveness in my heart if you weren't able to post as often 😜... To your question: I think you should teach her the basics in a new save, so she gets familiarized with the progression of the game, and if, after a little while, she finds herself feeling SATISFACTION (...lol, I know...sorry) in the engineering processes, I'd say you should take her to this save and/or introduce us to her here! (Hi Edna!!) P.S. What hardware are you both using during your stay? P.P.S. I wonder if a factory cart ramp/shute could launch you across the map 🤔
You could certainly get some air with a factory cart ramp and using jump pads but I doubt it would get you that far 😅 As for the hardware, I'm using a mini ATX tower, which has an I5, (not sure which one) 16gb of ram and a 3070. The other pc we'll use is a laptop with a gtx1060 in it I believe, so it'll play but won't be able to run big factories. That being said I do have a dedicated server which could run the saves for us 😊
I really need to learn from your videos. I'm always trying to cram as much into as small a space as possible. I made a 10 floor, 2x4 foundation footprint smelting tower to smelt 540 iron per minute, and all my buildings are super boring squares and rectangles.
Hey, I've figured out how to make y-shaped hypertube junctions, where any input can go to any output by using left and right. This works much better than 1:2 junctions because you can then have a main hypertube line with branches out to wherever you want to get to. If you want I can discuss with you and you can post a video. I don't really have time to post videos anyhow.
8:46 if I see the setup right then the 2nd splitter has the 3 exits to the elevator but the 1st splitter has the left connection which goes to the sink, that means the splitter will not work anymore after ONE of them is completely full and begin overflowing because the connection between 1st and 2nd splitter will also be full and it is only the first one that does overflow into the sink... More correct would be to move the 1st splitter over on the left of the 2nd splitter, so the 2nd splitter splits out 2 products + overflow on the left, then the second splitter would split out 1 product and overflow to the left and into the sink.
Hypertube cannons look cleaner and cooler than circular accellerators, but they are inferior in every other way. Accelerators use less power, fewer components, and less space. You can also use a single accellerator to go in 4 different directions, depending on where you enter. And yes, you want to launch yourself into a tube, not through the air. Still haven't figured out how to make them aesthetically pleasing, though.
I'm watching this video 3 months after it was posted. But when getting someone to game, it's best to let them just play it their way for the first week or month before going multiplayer with them in a session. They'll have found out their own stuff that you might not have found, and they'll be able to be part of the team rather than you just treating them like a mule (pack donkey/camel/horse depending on your geopgraphy).
The devs really need to implement an overclock for hypertube entrances. It's dumb that we have to have these weird ass setups just to get somewhere quickly. Then in later tiers, add something like being able to attach yourself to a drone, similar to the zipline or something... Traversal in this game is one of it's shortcomings.
At 8:48 you mentioned the overflowed parts getting sunk, the issue is the setup with the smart splitters. You have your 3 items that go to the space elevator after your overflow splitter. this is an issue because let's say that you get full on item 1 before item 2 and 3 are filled in the elevator, items 1 will backup into the first smart splitter. This will stop items 2 and 3 from being able to enter and being sunk instead. Ideally in this scenario, you should try and make sure the overflow is at the end of the line so you don't run into this problem. I'm sure you already know this, I just think this was a slight oversight.
@@richardreid6377 I don't think you understood my point exactly. At 8:55 you can see there is no additional splitter that will get rid of overflow for the 3 elevator inputs. If one of those inputs completely fills at the elevator, then it will backup to the belt that is feeding it. That will then back up into the splitter feeding the belt, and finally it will back from from the belt between both splitters. Once that belt is backed up, the other 2 items won't be able to make it to the second splitter, therefore cutting off the elevator of potential parts it still needs. Depending on the differences between production rates in those items and the amount needed, there may be a huge disparity in how many are left for each item type once there is a backup. A better way to run that setup would be to have the first smart splitter that has item 1 that splits to the right, the center channel would then be overflow. the second smart splitter, right and center would be dedicated to items 2 and 3 and left would be your overflow. This way the overflow from any singular item will not block any other items.
Make Edna play T0 to T6 on her own and then start teaching her. This way you'll have a solid reason to say "everything you learned so far - throw it out the window!" :D
I think it would be more fun if you just left Edna to fend for herself lol, but if she wants help, then should you definitely should. Whatever will be more fun for her. :D
I've been thinking of adding hyper cannons to my level, I had a silly idea, (that I'll admit I haven't tested myself), can't you just launch yourself with a single item in your inventory to hone your landings with the crates you drop when you die?
Unfortunately it does, patreon is used to support creators. As a bonus for that support there are saves available as well as personal videos, but I know that this unfortunately isn't possible for everyone.
I've done all of this with hypertubes and have just come away unsatisfied. They are hacky and inaccurate at best and useless and wasteful of time at worst. For my next restart I am not one bit inclined to waste any time on hypertubes. But what are my options I am thinking?
Teach Edna a few things to get her started then let her explore the rest of the game. Probably up to coal or she might get pissed at you and withdraw the err adult stuff for a couple of weeks as punishment for not helping her get a good start! 😁
Would love to see just her for a first time player and then a co-op with you
same, i think this would be the most fun to watch
5:40 Why didn't you just edit the target production rate instead of the clock speed? You'll get an even 20 and it'll auto-fill the clock speed to 66.666666666667 etc. Doesn't really make a difference in practice, I guess, but I personally like things to be neat like that.
Either that, or use a formula which is also supported. Typing "200/3" will also give the 66.(6)% result.
@@jankrowiranda9168 Nice! I wasn't aware of that feature.
Probably a matter of "old habits die hard" from when you could only change the clock speed. But I definitely agree with you. Much easier to just adjust the target production rate.
Noticed this too, thanks for bringing it up
wait, that's a thing you can do?
I'd say it's up to Edna. Lower pressure if she's got the steering wheel. Personally, I'd have her ride herd on you doing some basic tasks, and then maybe the two of you can share a dedicated server, where you can invite others to join the the play.
I never considered using the "cannon" setup just to boost the in-tube speed. I've only ever seen Hyper Tube Cannons used for game-breaking air-time stunts. Mind you, it makes me wonder what the effect is of hitting the "injection" stage on the way out.
Might need to play with this a bit.
(Psst, the description text is for the previous video.)
on the way out, you boop on the exit of the boosting stages, that's all :)
i've been using those accelerators for a long time and if you lay your tubes fairly level all across, it's a damn quick way to cross the whole map without the risks of missing your landing :)
This video inspired me to set up and 'express" tube across the map from a limestone mine on the west edge to the quartz near the east edge. I set up 15 entrances to get a time of 1 min 27 sec. (unaccellerated, 4 and a half min)
The speed effects of slope still apply inside the tube. It really helps those long, slow uphills on unaccellerated tubes.
The route I chose goes over the big hill in the middle of the map.
It's slightly faster than the game can update the mesh LOD on the terrain, everything gets all blocky with blurred texures. The fastest segments of the journey don't have time for the trees to show up.
No head starts! Figuring things out for yourself is always more fun, and it will help get Edna into the game more. Having things done for you or being told what to do generally makes things more boring quicker. Get her in a video or on a stream learning and taking pointers, but that's it!
my first hypertube was to get to the top of my 7 story factory...I cleverly fitted it to the ceiling so I could just walk under it and get sucked up.
worked brilliantly, then I used it to get back down.... turns out I wasn't nearly as clever designer as I thought .
4 months late so things have already happened probably, but the idea I had in mind was Edna playing a couple episodes with you in discord with her, but you are spectating, we switch back and forth from both your POVs, and you try to teach her how to play, how to do certain techniques etc. It'd also be a great way for myself to truly learn the more complicated stuff.
Then after that, I'd love to see a coop with the both of you.
Otherwise, if I can only have one, I'd go for coop playthrough, switching back and forth with the POV, and you trying to teach her a lot, but also showing the goofy stuff she ends up doing as a new player because that would be wholesome and funny as hell
I'd love to see you play alongside Edna for her first time playing, but be extremely hands-off. You can't build, or tell her what to do. Tips and Pointers are ok if she's feeling frustrated/stuck, but try to avoid that. This would be a perfect opportunity to test coffee stain's onboarding process and see how it caters to a brand new player. (And depending on how it goes, could provide feedback)
I'd let Edna get the first space elevator parts before you start helping her.
There is a lot to gain by getting to that point and getting comfortable with the game. Once you're there it makes a lot more sense to get help to scale up.
A tutorial series with Edna as a beginner would be great.
Well yeah, of course teach your love how to play one of the best games of all time! But when it comes to playing and streaming, I agree with others that say it should be up to her when and where she takes the reins and how much help she would like. Whichever starting point and level of advice equals the most enjoyment, do that. Whatever causes frustration, don't do that. Also a good approach for relationships in general since you definitely did not ask for relationship advice.
Not many people play co-op. Would be nice to see complete series in co-op.
Tip: When down clocking you can type the number of items you want instead of calculate some percentage in your head.
love your builds!
and yes, sure would be fun to watch you teach your gf, just don't be mad at her if she makes spaghetti 🍝
Early on 10MW per entry is expensive. You can do it with 4+1 ( maybe even as few as 2 by making a circle / oval then it will push you out of the gap when you are fast enough ) then have it launch you.... I also use a timed circuit for my landing pads around the map ( power coming in, to power switch, switch to battery and battery to jump pad power )... Then you switch the power on for 10 seconds, switch it off and you have about 10 seconds which is more than enough to launch you.
Teach Edna!
Yes lets see you teaching Edna
Edna series !!!!
I'm so happy you get to be together again! As much as I love watching (and learning from) your videos, I really hope you guys have a wonderful time in Mexico and miiiight be able to find forgiveness in my heart if you weren't able to post as often 😜... To your question: I think you should teach her the basics in a new save, so she gets familiarized with the progression of the game, and if, after a little while, she finds herself feeling SATISFACTION (...lol, I know...sorry) in the engineering processes, I'd say you should take her to this save and/or introduce us to her here! (Hi Edna!!)
P.S. What hardware are you both using during your stay?
P.P.S. I wonder if a factory cart ramp/shute could launch you across the map 🤔
You could certainly get some air with a factory cart ramp and using jump pads but I doubt it would get you that far 😅
As for the hardware, I'm using a mini ATX tower, which has an I5, (not sure which one) 16gb of ram and a 3070. The other pc we'll use is a laptop with a gtx1060 in it I believe, so it'll play but won't be able to run big factories. That being said I do have a dedicated server which could run the saves for us 😊
"PAR-A-CHUUUUUUUUUUTE!" was the last thing we heard him yell...
Rule no.1 in ours Savegame: Only go in Hypertubelunchers with Jetpack! ;-)
Parachutes work early on too, but jetpack is way more fun.
I really need to learn from your videos. I'm always trying to cram as much into as small a space as possible. I made a 10 floor, 2x4 foundation footprint smelting tower to smelt 540 iron per minute, and all my buildings are super boring squares and rectangles.
FYI I thank Josh from LGIO for demonstrating the full power of hypertubes. When speed matters more than dignity or survival, go with the hyper canon!
Hey, I've figured out how to make y-shaped hypertube junctions, where any input can go to any output by using left and right. This works much better than 1:2 junctions because you can then have a main hypertube line with branches out to wherever you want to get to. If you want I can discuss with you and you can post a video. I don't really have time to post videos anyhow.
Super interested!
@@bobette986 I can probs get a blueprint to you if you like. Maybe could post it in the satisfactory reddit
I notice you have a little artifacting occuring, if you set the locked fps in the games options to 60 it fixed the artifacting for me.
8:46 if I see the setup right then the 2nd splitter has the 3 exits to the elevator but the 1st splitter has the left connection which goes to the sink, that means the splitter will not work anymore after ONE of them is completely full and begin overflowing because the connection between 1st and 2nd splitter will also be full and it is only the first one that does overflow into the sink...
More correct would be to move the 1st splitter over on the left of the 2nd splitter, so the 2nd splitter splits out 2 products + overflow on the left, then the second splitter would split out 1 product and overflow to the left and into the sink.
Yes coop videos with Edna please! Hope you had a safe flight and enjoy your time in Mexico!
You can actually negate the damage of being launched by hitting a wall. That eats up all the momentum but you take 0 damage :)
Hypertube cannons look cleaner and cooler than circular accellerators, but they are inferior in every other way.
Accelerators use less power, fewer components, and less space. You can also use a single accellerator to go in 4 different directions, depending on where you enter. And yes, you want to launch yourself into a tube, not through the air.
Still haven't figured out how to make them aesthetically pleasing, though.
Hmm to be honest I've not set one up before - perhaps I'll look into it and make a guide on it!
Yeah, give Edna a chance. Her perspective would be obviously different from yours and would make for an interesting design.
A consultation with Josh from let's game it out is needed here ;-) 12:15
Every time I see one of the beans doing that 'dance' I think it's getting electrocuted...
Putting power poles on splitters and mergers is a really simple way to make cables managed without putting in any more effort
yea! definitely teach her how to play, and let us follow along (if she's willing). it'd be a great "beginner to master" kind of tutorial
I'm watching this video 3 months after it was posted.
But when getting someone to game, it's best to let them just play it their way for the first week or month before going multiplayer with them in a session.
They'll have found out their own stuff that you might not have found, and they'll be able to be part of the team rather than you just treating them like a mule (pack donkey/camel/horse depending on your geopgraphy).
By the way Total, is it me or does your voice sound a lot better?
Possibly 😅
The devs really need to implement an overclock for hypertube entrances. It's dumb that we have to have these weird ass setups just to get somewhere quickly. Then in later tiers, add something like being able to attach yourself to a drone, similar to the zipline or something...
Traversal in this game is one of it's shortcomings.
Hey, there's the hyperboosters mod. I use it because I figure it's not that cheaty, just concenient.
get kebits to give you some pointers on hyper tube launchers he's always really good on getting them just right
!TeamEdna!!! HYPE!!!!
At 8:48 you mentioned the overflowed parts getting sunk, the issue is the setup with the smart splitters. You have your 3 items that go to the space elevator after your overflow splitter. this is an issue because let's say that you get full on item 1 before item 2 and 3 are filled in the elevator, items 1 will backup into the first smart splitter. This will stop items 2 and 3 from being able to enter and being sunk instead. Ideally in this scenario, you should try and make sure the overflow is at the end of the line so you don't run into this problem. I'm sure you already know this, I just think this was a slight oversight.
He's got it covered. One belt for each part between his smart splitter setup and the elevator inputs.
@@richardreid6377 I don't think you understood my point exactly. At 8:55 you can see there is no additional splitter that will get rid of overflow for the 3 elevator inputs. If one of those inputs completely fills at the elevator, then it will backup to the belt that is feeding it. That will then back up into the splitter feeding the belt, and finally it will back from from the belt between both splitters. Once that belt is backed up, the other 2 items won't be able to make it to the second splitter, therefore cutting off the elevator of potential parts it still needs. Depending on the differences between production rates in those items and the amount needed, there may be a huge disparity in how many are left for each item type once there is a backup.
A better way to run that setup would be to have the first smart splitter that has item 1 that splits to the right, the center channel would then be overflow. the second smart splitter, right and center would be dedicated to items 2 and 3 and left would be your overflow. This way the overflow from any singular item will not block any other items.
I dropped another like. This one is pretty heavy so you have to get a thousand Dogo's if you need to move it! Lol.
Put a parachute on before you try flying. Even a chicken is smart enough to know to not try to fly without wings.
Seems like the only one you should be asking about whether to teach Edna to play is Edna.
She's already happy to play it, I just want to know whether that interests you guys ;)
Make Edna play T0 to T6 on her own and then start teaching her. This way you'll have a solid reason to say "everything you learned so far - throw it out the window!" :D
would love to see a coop world with you two!
I love hypertubes, much easier than silly vehicles.
I think it would be more fun if you just left Edna to fend for herself lol, but if she wants help, then should you definitely should. Whatever will be more fun for her. :D
Speaking from personal experience, don't let the wildlife get to Edna, especially early on ;)
It be fun to see how she plays with you, maybe in your world?
Nope - not risking my factories having randomly deleted power cables or conveyors 🤣
🤣
Why use a separate return line? They can be bi-directional.
I did say that 😊
Now that dedicated servers have been a thing for a bit I'm kinda surprised no one has done a MP playthrough. (At least not that I've found...)
They're still a bit too buggy I think, but who knows in the future!
Co-op it baby!
Start a new beginner series with Edna and teach her as a tutorial like series
Don't do that, mr. Totalxclipse
I've been thinking of adding hyper cannons to my level, I had a silly idea, (that I'll admit I haven't tested myself), can't you just launch yourself with a single item in your inventory to hone your landings with the crates you drop when you die?
Teach Edna, Teach Edna
Try using trucks. they cxan be setup with little infrastructure and are esecially usefull in early game.
I said I wouldn't use vehicles for this playthrough 😅
Hypertube launchers only work if you have a jetpack.
so....how did Edna do in Satisfactory???
Thank you for not begging for subs!
Yes to Edna from Canada 🇨🇦
Does the patreon cost any money? I really want to check out the save to get better at building, but i cant pay anything on things like a patreon
Unfortunately it does, patreon is used to support creators. As a bonus for that support there are saves available as well as personal videos, but I know that this unfortunately isn't possible for everyone.
i would love to see you, watch her building spaghetti
Why does he always change the clock speed percentage rather than the target production rate?
Is this hyptertube entrance combie still possible?
how is your zooping showing up as white instead of blue?
I've done all of this with hypertubes and have just come away unsatisfied. They are hacky and inaccurate at best and useless and wasteful of time at worst. For my next restart I am not one bit inclined to waste any time on hypertubes. But what are my options I am thinking?
Didnt josh from letsgameitout do this stuff already?
Louncher combined with parachut
Bad? First thing i build in a new area is a canon "home", and when i get home i build a canon to the new area. Easy blueprint
*shows amazing factory*
this is a bit of a mess at the moment
- I need to rethink the mess in my world
🤣 sorry
What is the console command for flying around? I want to do some recording of my factories but it is hard to do without a "spectator" view...
It's the Pak utility mod
You're much more likely to have babies than get her to play Satisfactory lol.
Wanna bet?
My Girlfriend and I play together as well! DO IIIIITTTT!!!!
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I think we would all like to see your girlfriend play and watch as she gets enamored with mathematics lol
Not sure I caught why hypertubes are a "BAD" idea... ?
Because they resulted in Far too many deaths 😅
I would love to see a girls styling and design
Teach Edna a few things to get her started then let her explore the rest of the game. Probably up to coal or she might get pissed at you and withdraw the err adult stuff for a couple of weeks as punishment for not helping her get a good start! 😁
👍👍👍
Let enda play pls
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Cringe! I know every woman loves hours of mansplaining. :o) Hopefully you don't come back single in 5 weeks rather than coupled in 5 months!
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