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SEGA's Spider-Man The Arcade Game. That was a great one. Sadly never ported to anything. The Simpson Arcade,well sell your house and buy the Arcade 1up one.
Not sure if someone mentioned it but you’re correct, UN Squadron was renamed from the original Japanese name Area 88, which was a manga/anime originally about Shin Kazama who’s basically forced to be a mercenary pilot.
Wow ! Brought back memories from my childhood. Being at the movie theatre waiting for our movie to start, after little league games going to eat pizza, the laundromat that only had once arcade game. Good times ! Great Video Greg !
Fatal Fury Spacial is a great port of the AES version. They didn't reuse any of the sprites, backgrounds and music from Fatal Fury 2 SNES port but redrawn the sprites with more animation and backgrounds closer to the AES for the Fatal Fury Special SNES version.
Second fighting game I play on the SNES next to SF2T with my Brook SNES Converter with ether a Retro-Bit USB SEGA Saturn pad or a MayFlash arcade stick plugged into it so I can play a few rounds with my ninja gal Mai.
Pretty amazing when a cartridge can feature all that shit. I have Parodius for SNES and it has all the stuff from the Arcade plus 2 additional levels exclusive to the cart
Indeed, Fatal Fury Special on SNES it's a great version, it's even the best port of the game imo. But you should play the complete 32meg NTSC version with all 16 characters and more animation frames, not the downgraded 24meg PAL version!
Yes, this game sucks. But it's not even a port. It's a entirely different game by different developers, alone the title and the game genre is the same. Otherwise, it has nothing to do with the great Capcom brawler.
I'm 46 years old so I remember all of these games new. Best arcade Port is TMNT. Though not perfect NBA jam was pretty good, Street fighter 2 , MK2 was good. Not an arcade game I thought contra 3 and super ghouls and Ghosts could have pass as one . SNES overall Good system, better than Genesis.
Not a fan of the fact that the SNES version of NBA Jam lacks music. But with controller adapters these days I'll just play the Gen or PS1 version of NBA Jam with my SNES pad and I'll just pretend I'm playing the SNES version.
@@ArcadeIsMyLife1 I remember get my SNES at launch and a Genesis a year later. It fault like a down grade to me. Likely because the color of graphics, color and sound. Outside of sports games I think Nintendo had better titles. Mario and Zelda in particular. Mario donkey Kong being the first game I ever owned.(coleco vision).
You meant felt not fault(typo). But yeah I never owned NBA Jam on SNES. I just rented it from BallBuster Video and it not having music really didn't bother me at the time and truth be told I rather play the SNES conversion then the Genesis one with the fart sounds.
As someone myself in my early 40s, I have to say the snes was the better console overall. While sega genesis was fun and had a few titles better than it's snes 16 bit counterpart, I felt the snes simply did better conversions with their ports like MK2, SFII and TMNT Turtles in Time specially IMO.
Great Fun video! and a few things: Turtles in time has extra levels in the snes version thats why level order is not 1:1, there is so many extra features it really is one of the best ports to snes. The letterbox trick forces games to not render the top and bottom of the screens so the snes can have more processing power for other things.
MK1 was decent for SNES(the downside no blood, gore) but honestly you should have used MK 2. It's easily the best homeport of the game if you don't have an arcade near you.
@@mattm7798 The gameplay was a little faster on the SG, the SN had closer to the arcade which is a little slower(MK1 is a clunkier game in general) but the main thing was the no gore, blood otherwise the SNES was a pretty solid port. The SG port was better due to the blood code honestly. MK 2 however was all around better for SNES in pretty much every way possible.
Yeah, it's funny to go back and play MK1 now in the arcade and it does feel slow and a bit clunk, kind of like the OG street fighter 2(except that wasn't clunky, just slow). MK2 really took advantage of snes' superior hardware to the genesis. But as a kid, having mk2 at home was awesome you didn't even notice the downgrade much.@@MKF30
@@mattm7798 Yeah I hear ya it's funny how the earlier MKs and SF's had that slower, clunkier feel or some say stiffer which I definitely agree compared to say MK 2 and later versions of SFII the original SFII definitely had that slower, clunkier, stiffer feel compared to Turbo, and SSFII etc no doubt lol with SF they would have 100 revisions of the same game essentially slightly updated lol. MK also had revisions but not nearly as many as SF II did haha. The closest to that would be MK3 to UMK3 which obviously UMk3 was the superior and more balanced game no doubt. Then you had MK 2 to MK3 which was a massive speed upgrade lol. Oh yeah MK 2 I think most if not all of my friends and kids who liked mk had it for SNES, my mom didn't want me playing it haha yeah like many parents out there at the time so I had to sneak over to my friend's place down the block to play then like a year after it came out I convinced them I wasn't going to kill anyone lol. My dad actually liked it and thought it was cool haha it was my mom who was like "I've seen that game on the news, I don't like you playing that game!" lol 🤣🤣Well if you know you know haha!
For SF2 I use the Brook SNES adapter to use Retro-Bit's SEGA Genesis or even better their SEGA Saturn pad on my SNES. Also Retro Frog makes a SNES controller to Neo Geo adapter and yes UN Squadron is based off a Japanese cartoon.
Although I should clarify that's Retro-Bit's USB pads plugged into the Brook SNES controller adapter that I use for Street Fighter 2. This includes the official SEGA 2.4 ghz wireless controllers they make.
Good video; the Neo-Geo ports to SNES were always competent but pedestrian by comparison, lacking the extra pop and gloss the the Neo-Geo games had. As I'm sure your aware a few of these games have improvement hacks to bring out the best in the SNES capabilities. Final Fight has both an arcade colors/restoration hack and a fastrom hack that are compatible with each other. Pit Fighter does have a fastrom hack but I don't really know if it helps the overall product all that much. One game that you didn't cover is Captain Commando, which also has an arcade improvement hack that enhances the SNES game. Super Street Fighter 2 has an MSU version that sets the game to the coveted 3D0 OST, which is very cool. I know that Mortal Kombat has an arcade edition hack that reconciles most of the drawbacks that you mentioned. Other fastrom upgrades include Magic Sword and Combatribes, among many others. Good times for optimized SNES games for sure.
The SNES has some great and accurate arcade ports. My top 5 are: Street Fighter 2 Turbo, Super Street Fighter 2, Fatal Fury Special, Street Fighter Alpha 2 and Mortal Kombat 2.
Turtles in Time is on my Mt Rushmore of video games. Such an incredible game. Really glad that brought it back with the cowabunga collection so that I could play it with my wife and kids.
It's a good thing I got the Cowabunga Collection on PC via Steam so I can use Parsec for online games since the SNES version here doesn't include online support and the native online on the collection is absolutely trash.
HEY GREG'S GAME ROOM...MAN, THIS IS THE FIRST VLOG of yours that I have had on my recommendation list. I really enjoyed it. I remember these games as I spent a lot of time at Golf land playing arcades. Then my son's had every gaming system available, so Super Nintendo was always on at home. Great job. I subbed so I can re-live all the fun. I showed my son's your content, so expect alot more subs. Happy New Year my friend.
Most of these games i played on the Sega Genesis. And I never knew that turtles in Time had a arcade version I always thought it was a super Nintendo exclusive. The first time i ever played the arcade version of turtles in time is when the cowabunga collection came out
Great video, but I missed the port of Parodius, released in the arcade in 1990, then ported to the SNES. It’s one of my favorite games on the system from graphics to sound to gameplay. Anyway, it’s impossible to get all the ports the SNES got (specially from Neo Geo such as Art or Fighting or Samurai Shodown). Keep up the good work!!
Why is there such vast and differing opinions of MKII versions, some people think Sega version is best, others say SNES is far better and genesis version is trash lol. Well actually, they both fall short compared to the version on Midway Arcade Treasures 2 on PS2.
My brother and I played the robot baseball and Avengers games a TON on the SNES. I don’t remember ever seeing either of them in an arcade. I’m really surprised at how many of these games were much better on the arcade rather than the console.
Great video! It was great revisiting these games. It also brings up my biggest gripe with the whole retro games movement over the last decade. New games that are developed are based off of the console versions of games. Which I get, but from someone that was a teen during this era, it's annoying. We already knew then, that we were going to get a sub par version, despite the sticker on the box stating it was ARCADE PERFECT! We understood the hardware limitations, but the marketing always tried to pull the wool over your eyes. This was especially true during the 8 bit era. Some were so bad, that you would just rather save the money and spend $5-10 beating it in the arcade. Many were good as shown in this video. I just wish we had retro games based off of CPS 1/2 or Neo Geo hardware instead of NES and SNES. I also understand that when this generation of developers were young, arcades were long gone. Long story short, imagine if The Messenger was inspired by the arcade version of Ninja Gaiden instead of the NES version.
Regarding UN Squadron, I feel you might be very much in the minority on the SNES port as many gamers not only prefer the SNES port over the arcade, but they consider it one of the best titles for the console. I myself can 1CC the arcade game (doesn't take long... only 10 short stages).
Honestly, you have my respect, it took a lot of humility to admit that you simply suck at the game UN Squadron on the SNES to get far enough to really give it a fair comparison. Speaking as a hard core fan of the game the graphic's, sound and gameplay on the SNES version are all massively superior to the arcade original. I do think once you get the hang of the gameplay there is a lot to really enjoy about the game so I would seriously recommend giving it another go but maybe starting on EASY mode until you get used to the enemy placement on each level.
I did. Played it on PC on Final Burn Alpha. Used the SNES pad to play it too. Both versions are fine in my book with minimal differences(SNES version has a shop and a story for example) The cartridge lose is pretty cheap last I checked and the arcade version is available on the Capcom Arcade compilations that are on everything these days.
Great video. brought back some memories from my childhood. UN Squadron is based on an anime called Area 88. It was one of the first games I got on the SNES since I loved the anime.
I'm not sure if T2 The Arcade Game SNES is compatible with the Konami Justifier Light Guns since I don't own them since they're rare and expensive especially the pink one. But you can be like me and use the SNES mouse which I do know works with T2 and some Super Scope games.
Huh,nokiller instinct? Now i don’t know about those old arcade games such as ms pacman,frogger etc,,, as those games came from a different time frame,and while frogger did got a 16bit overhaul of it,it just doesn’t feel ceromonial as a final snes game,those mentioned arcade games do feel more like a cash grabbing and nothing more, About street fighter 2 on snes,it’s a great port but those voice samples were sped up at the wrong pitch and they were shortened in length and the intro is missing,the genesis version seems closer to the arcade version of it and despite it’s noisy voices,they are at the right pitch,speed and length
Also, years ago through my own curiosity as to what the earliest digitized fighting game was, I found that there was a game called The Last Apostle Puppetshow that came out in Japan in 1988.
It's interesting how many of the arcade ports are a good deal darker on the SNES. Wonder if this was a conscious choice or just less colors on screen at once? SNES had a pretty wide color pallete so I don't think it was pure lack of color choices.
Many coins were spend on Combatribes in the arcade. Sadly it did not had a highscore table. Loved the head smacking on 2 enemies and the big stuff you could pick up. Super charming game.
@GregsGameRoom Good thing I picked up the official reissue SNES cart of Undercover Cop from Retro-Bit's website a while back. Wish I could have afforded the boxset that included the cute girl figure from the game. Anyway that version was sold out.
If you want to play a decent and relatively accurate console port of Pit Fighter, check out the Sega Genesis version. I think that Atari deliberately made the SNES version bad just to try and stick it to Nintendo. This game isn’t the only one to suffer from that. Race Drivin’ and Road Riot were bad on purpose as well.
Somebody patched Race Drivin on the SNES to use the SA1 chip and proved it not only could have run much better, but in fact with that chip it would have been the smoothest running home port of the game. If he hadn't done extra coding to control the frame rate it actually ran too fast to be playable! You know somebody screwed up bad when the gameboy version ran and played better than the SNES version. I actually bought the SNES version and took it back to the store and got a refund with no questions asked.
The SNES port of MK2 was a near flawless translation. It was about 90% identical to the arcade. When MK2 came out I had sweet revenge on two of my Sega fanboy buddies. I had been hearing them laugh and put down my watered down SNES port of MK for an entire year. But this time I had the FAR superior port, and it made them soooooo mad lol.
I noticed King of Dragons is not on this list. It was in the arcades in 1991 and got ported to the SNES in 1994. They're both identical. That's okay because we cannot know every game in the world.
@@SevenCompleted Only one way to find out, right? Say, I like your username and your profile pic. Definitely one of Bandit Keith's cards. Glad I'm a Yugioh fan.
@@Matt-Rat yah my name used to he bandit keith on here before youtube forced usernames and someone else got it first xD so i went with this. Yah his dark machine cards were the best I love barrel dragon.
One cool thing about Neo Geos Fatal Fury was the coop or 2 on 1 that the SNES lacked. So much fun. Unfortunately you had to fight each other after each match but you could team up until Geese
True but I couldn't afford a MVS then and I can't now. So it's nice to have Hamster's Arcade Archives to play them and if you're nostalgic for the Neo Geo controller then Retro-bit makes an official Bluetooth clone.
Between Arcade Archives, Capcom's retro packs and the Sega collection, I've been playing most of these very recently, all bangers. Commando 2 gives Contra a run for it's money.
Yeah me too. Even been using my Brook Controller Adapters to use my SNES pad on them from the Xbox 360,PS2,PS5 and finally to the Nintendo Switch. Especially the Capcom Arcade ones.
Sorry mate but are you talking about??? Fatal fury for snes ACCURATE???? Jesus......the collision detection is awful and the second plane is completely missing!!!!!! Have you actually played the game? It doubt it .......
Now I know this guy is a troll. Jokes on him, since my friends dad had a Commodore Amiga that had the best conversation of the Dragon's Lair at that time. Unlike the not Dragon's Lair on SNES.
The letterboxing is due to the fact the Genesis (Mega Drive) had a similar architecture to arcades so was easy to port arcade games and had a higher resolution so often they were ported to Sega' 16-bit juggernaut first before porting to the SNES which is why you get the letterboxing. The original home version is done in a higher resolution on the competitor's system for a lot of arcade games. SFII was an exception to this because I believe Nintendo had exclusivity for the home release for a year.
I think you meant the architecture of the SEGA model 1 arcade board,well semantics,but while I was a Super Nintendo kid and didn't want or own a Genesis(Mega Drive)at the time or could afford it,I did recently pick up the cheaper Hyperkin HDMI Genesis system that uses FPGA not emulation to play some Golden Axe and Ghostbusters. Plus I own a Brook controller adapter to use my SNES pad on it so I can tick off the SEGA kids.
@@ArcadeIsMyLife1 The same CPU architecture was used on multiple arcade systems at the time. I got a brook adapter to play any modern wireless controller with Dreamcast and Saturn. Cheap FPGA doesn’t exist. Hyperkin products are emulation but still good. Though I mostly have original hardware hooked up to a big CRT TV, I also have one Retron to play NES carts and it works great even if it’s not FPGA. Sega has so many amazing controller options though the SNES controller is also a classic.
@SharifSourour Nah I think you're thinking about that other system they had. The one I have is the Mega Retron HD that I believe uses stolen FPGA technology or similar technology from The Analogue Company for their clones. If it was emulation it wouldn't work with my Genesis Everdrive.
The SNES port of Captain America was a dumpster fire. It was ported by Realtime Associates, a company that doesn’t know how to make a good game. The enemies aren’t stunned if you get your attack in first. If you manage to knock an enemy down, they have an invincibility period while they flicker! The difficulty was artificially inflated in all of the wrong ways.
Tell Disney to get off their hides and have Hamster port Captain America to Arcade Archives since they're hurting for money now and I can play it on my Nintendo Switch and laugh at Red Skull's dumb laugh.
It's a conversion not a port. But it definitely ticked off the SEGA kids that's for sure until they got a version of Street Fighter 2. But I still prefer Street Fighter 2 Turbo SNES over the original SNES one and Super Street Fighter 2 SNES and I'm glad Capcom included that version on the SNES Classic Edition.
Not a bad SNES conversation of Sunset Riders(and an expensive one at that on the second hand market). But thankfully the Arcade version is on Arcade Archives now. As for Smash TV on SNES, the best home conversation out of all the home consoles and I'm glad they put in that stage select code so I skip to the end since the Arcade version is a slog to get through.
I love your videos, but are you trying to say “phrenetic” or “frantic”? It’s driving me nuts to hear “phrentic” over and over and not know which is meant
Growing up playing these games both arcade , snes, genesis I can clearly recall how great the arcade would be but how close the Super Nintendo graphics came close it was not as robust but very close. Super Nintendo was the more graphically accurate and impressive when it came to ports then the genesis which sported ugly & graphically inferior ports more often then not. The Sega exclusives like streets of rage and sonic were the best offerings and some games like rocket night adventures and a few other masterpieces. SNES however was superior.
A few other masterpieces? What are you blind? Or just biased? Or did you just happen to not notice the superior graphics, and sound in many Sega Genesis games. You know, like Thunder Force 4? Or Gunstar Heroes? Or how about Ranger X? And while i was a huge Sega Genesis fan growing up, over the years I really started to appreciate the Super Nes. But games like Thunder Force would never run on Super Nintendo hardware, or Gunstar Heroes for that matter. Or comparing the Manhattan Project to Turtles in Time, while the Genesis version is good. It doesn't hold a candle to Turtles in Time, but you certainly don't know your facts well enough to make such an outlandish statement. both systems have their strengths, and weaknesses. But you obviously haven't sat down and played the Genesis enough to have any idea what your talking about. I could sit here pointing out a lot more titles than that, but I'm not going to waste time doing it. And considering that I've been gaming since 78', and been collecting since my teens. I know exactly what I'm talking about, you do not my friend
@@GregsGameRoomhe’s not wrong though, AvP, both D&D games, both TMNT games, X-men, Simpsons, armored warriors, battle circuit. Captain America is fun but it’s shallow compared to most beat em ups in the arcade.
Are you trying to say "Frenetic" or "Frantic" - it feels like you are combining the two words. I wouldn't say anything, but you said it like 3-4 times in this episode alone, lol. I realize how this makes me look as a word nazi, sorry if it annoys you... I would want someone to address it for me.
I’m enjoying the video so far. I’ll probably have more comments coming, but regarding NBA jam was it really digitized graphics because for years I believed that it was digitized.. but take a close look, are they really?? They look more artificial than anything.
The players heads are but their bodies are regular sprites so Midway could swap heads on the bodies in NBA Jam to save on memory space. They used the same photo technology they used for Mortal Kombat but only scanned the NBA players' heads.
Ms Pacman on the SNES was actually a whole lot better; the best I've ever played(once owned this one). UN Squadron is super hard; I have never beaten it, but I have made it to the last level(on AVG DIFF) and the next to the last level is hard enough to the last level. Never played the arcade... But, to me, the secret to UNS is the planes you get; I save to buy the 250K, 350k, and 1M dollar planes. Another tip: Early on and after you beat the tank, forget those free easy money bases; you won't get much money for them; instead, play the Forest level and--as long as you get halfway through--you'll earn a lot money each time(the golden star). Then, when the home screen begins to beep, you'll have to play the 1st plane target. Buy the $250k plane, stock up, and you should be on your way...
While it's not a bad version of Ms Pacman. I'm not a fan of the zoomed in maze that makes it harder to tell where the ghost are and I don't like the new sprites. Personally I rather play Ms. Pacman on Namco Museum PS2 with my SNES controller adapter then this SNES convertion.
@@ArcadeIsMyLife1 I loved that Ms. Pacman and hated to have to sell it. I would have given that game a 15 on a 10 rating scale for the type of game it was. I could really find nothing wrong with it and it wasn't just the many features that it had over the arcade(I never used more than the level skip, speed as the arcade, and traditional maze anyway--I'm a purist). Still, they were there to be used and I could determine no speed issues or lag and it looked great to me...HOWEVER, YOU DO HAVE A RIGHT TO YOUR OWN OPINION.
Not a fan of the price or the controllers but I like the Neo Geo Fighting Games(well most of them) and I'm more of a Capcom Fighting Game fan and thankfully there's emulation and and controller adapters that solves both issues these days. Got them all on my Nintendo Switch.
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Turtles in Time is one of the very rare ports that's actually better than the arcade
Yep, better for single player.
The arcade version is better if you have friends over...
I wish they would have ported the Simpsons and X-men arcades to the SNES.
The SNES had the colors to compete with the Arcade the only real limit was the memory if the SNES
had a 100 Meg cartridge it would be even
totally agreed like UN Squadron and Ninja warriors
I was so excited the first time I saw Captain America and the avengers at the local arcade...
I could only imagine how excited you were to see The Simpsons!
SEGA's Spider-Man The Arcade Game. That was a great one. Sadly never ported to anything. The Simpson Arcade,well sell your house and buy the Arcade 1up one.
@@ArcadeIsMyLife1 too true!
The Simpons was great, but the X-Men was greater.
Not sure if someone mentioned it but you’re correct, UN Squadron was renamed from the original Japanese name Area 88, which was a manga/anime originally about Shin Kazama who’s basically forced to be a mercenary pilot.
I had U.N. Squadron on 5he SNES. It was pretty good. I might have only played the arcade once.
Wow ! Brought back memories from my childhood. Being at the movie theatre waiting for our movie to start, after little league games going to eat pizza, the laundromat that only had once arcade game. Good times ! Great Video Greg !
I hate it when groundbreaking video games are ported to lower-scale consoles.
Next video Arcade vs PS1: ah god my eyes it burns.
Fatal Fury Spacial is a great port of the AES version. They didn't reuse any of the sprites, backgrounds and music from Fatal Fury 2 SNES port but redrawn the sprites with more animation and backgrounds closer to the AES for the Fatal Fury Special SNES version.
ROM size looks to be 4x larger too
Second fighting game I play on the SNES next to SF2T with my Brook SNES Converter with ether a Retro-Bit USB SEGA Saturn pad or a MayFlash arcade stick plugged into it so I can play a few rounds with my ninja gal Mai.
Pretty amazing when a cartridge can feature all that shit. I have Parodius for SNES and it has all the stuff from the Arcade plus 2 additional levels exclusive to the cart
Indeed, Fatal Fury Special on SNES it's a great version, it's even the best port of the game imo. But you should play the complete 32meg NTSC version with all 16 characters and more animation frames, not the downgraded 24meg PAL version!
man! your video is awesome!
Really enjoyed this video 👍🏻
Thank you for not listing the terrible alien vs predator snes port
Yes, this game sucks. But it's not even a port. It's a entirely different game by different developers, alone the title and the game genre is the same. Otherwise, it has nothing to do with the great Capcom brawler.
I'm 46 years old so I remember all of these games new. Best arcade Port is TMNT. Though not perfect NBA jam was pretty good, Street fighter 2 , MK2 was good. Not an arcade game I thought contra 3 and super ghouls and Ghosts could have pass as one . SNES overall Good system, better than Genesis.
Both have their merits.
Not a fan of the fact that the SNES version of NBA Jam lacks music. But with controller adapters these days I'll just play the Gen or PS1 version of NBA Jam with my SNES pad and I'll just pretend I'm playing the SNES version.
@@ArcadeIsMyLife1 I remember get my SNES at launch and a Genesis a year later. It fault like a down grade to me. Likely because the color of graphics, color and sound. Outside of sports games I think Nintendo had better titles. Mario and Zelda in particular. Mario donkey Kong being the first game I ever owned.(coleco vision).
You meant felt not fault(typo). But yeah I never owned NBA Jam on SNES. I just rented it from BallBuster Video and it not having music really didn't bother me at the time and truth be told I rather play the SNES conversion then the Genesis one with the fart sounds.
As someone myself in my early 40s, I have to say the snes was the better console overall. While sega genesis was fun and had a few titles better than it's snes 16 bit counterpart, I felt the snes simply did better conversions with their ports like MK2, SFII and TMNT Turtles in Time specially IMO.
I saw a neo geo arcade cabinet in a Pizza shop and it had a 2020 super baseball game in it 😮
Sunset riders,and smash tv was 2 of my favorites
This was a really fun video!
Great Fun video! and a few things:
Turtles in time has extra levels in the snes version thats why level order is not 1:1, there is so many extra features it really is one of the best ports to snes.
The letterbox trick forces games to not render the top and bottom of the screens so the snes can have more processing power for other things.
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There is a version with Guy.
It used to be a Block Buster exclusive.
Same game play just no Cody this time.
MK1 was decent for SNES(the downside no blood, gore) but honestly you should have used MK 2. It's easily the best homeport of the game if you don't have an arcade near you.
Yeah, the graphics for mk1 were better on the snes, but the gameplay was better on the genesis. I agree MK2 on snes is quite good.
@@mattm7798 The gameplay was a little faster on the SG, the SN had closer to the arcade which is a little slower(MK1 is a clunkier game in general) but the main thing was the no gore, blood otherwise the SNES was a pretty solid port. The SG port was better due to the blood code honestly. MK 2 however was all around better for SNES in pretty much every way possible.
Yeah, it's funny to go back and play MK1 now in the arcade and it does feel slow and a bit clunk, kind of like the OG street fighter 2(except that wasn't clunky, just slow).
MK2 really took advantage of snes' superior hardware to the genesis. But as a kid, having mk2 at home was awesome you didn't even notice the downgrade much.@@MKF30
@@mattm7798 Yeah I hear ya it's funny how the earlier MKs and SF's had that slower, clunkier feel or some say stiffer which I definitely agree compared to say MK 2 and later versions of SFII the original SFII definitely had that slower, clunkier, stiffer feel compared to Turbo, and SSFII etc no doubt lol with SF they would have 100 revisions of the same game essentially slightly updated lol. MK also had revisions but not nearly as many as SF II did haha. The closest to that would be MK3 to UMK3 which obviously UMk3 was the superior and more balanced game no doubt. Then you had MK 2 to MK3 which was a massive speed upgrade lol.
Oh yeah MK 2 I think most if not all of my friends and kids who liked mk had it for SNES, my mom didn't want me playing it haha yeah like many parents out there at the time so I had to sneak over to my friend's place down the block to play then like a year after it came out I convinced them I wasn't going to kill anyone lol. My dad actually liked it and thought it was cool haha it was my mom who was like "I've seen that game on the news, I don't like you playing that game!" lol 🤣🤣Well if you know you know haha!
Great stuff!
For SF2 I use the Brook SNES adapter to use Retro-Bit's SEGA Genesis or even better their SEGA Saturn pad on my SNES. Also Retro Frog makes a SNES controller to Neo Geo adapter and yes UN Squadron is based off a Japanese cartoon.
Oh, interesting
Although I should clarify that's Retro-Bit's USB pads plugged into the Brook SNES controller adapter that I use for Street Fighter 2. This includes the official SEGA 2.4 ghz wireless controllers they make.
Thank you for bringing back my childhood memories of the arcades 😊😊😊
Great reviews and video ‼️
I rather go with the arcade versions I think. lol
Good video; the Neo-Geo ports to SNES were always competent but pedestrian by comparison, lacking the extra pop and gloss the the Neo-Geo games had. As I'm sure your aware a few of these games have improvement hacks to bring out the best in the SNES capabilities. Final Fight has both an arcade colors/restoration hack and a fastrom hack that are compatible with each other. Pit Fighter does have a fastrom hack but I don't really know if it helps the overall product all that much. One game that you didn't cover is Captain Commando, which also has an arcade improvement hack that enhances the SNES game. Super Street Fighter 2 has an MSU version that sets the game to the coveted 3D0 OST, which is very cool. I know that Mortal Kombat has an arcade edition hack that reconciles most of the drawbacks that you mentioned. Other fastrom upgrades include Magic Sword and Combatribes, among many others. Good times for optimized SNES games for sure.
The SNES has some great and accurate arcade ports. My top 5 are: Street Fighter 2 Turbo, Super Street Fighter 2, Fatal Fury Special, Street Fighter Alpha 2 and Mortal Kombat 2.
Can you do episodes of Arcade vs. Nintendo Entertainment System and Arcade vs. Game Boy (original)?
I definitely plan to do more
Turtles in Time is on my Mt Rushmore of video games. Such an incredible game. Really glad that brought it back with the cowabunga collection so that I could play it with my wife and kids.
That's a great collection since it includes both arcade and SNES versions.
It's a good thing I got the Cowabunga Collection on PC via Steam so I can use Parsec for online games since the SNES version here doesn't include online support and the native online on the collection is absolutely trash.
HEY GREG'S GAME ROOM...MAN, THIS IS THE FIRST VLOG of yours that I have had on my recommendation list. I really enjoyed it. I remember these games as I spent a lot of time at Golf land playing arcades. Then my son's had every gaming system available, so Super Nintendo was always on at home. Great job. I subbed so I can re-live all the fun. I showed my son's your content, so expect alot more subs. Happy New Year my friend.
Most of these games i played on the Sega Genesis. And I never knew that turtles in Time had a arcade version I always thought it was a super Nintendo exclusive. The first time i ever played the arcade version of turtles in time is when the cowabunga collection came out
Great video, but I missed the port of Parodius, released in the arcade in 1990, then ported to the SNES. It’s one of my favorite games on the system from graphics to sound to gameplay. Anyway, it’s impossible to get all the ports the SNES got (specially from Neo Geo such as Art or Fighting or Samurai Shodown). Keep up the good work!!
Why is there such vast and differing opinions of MKII versions, some people think Sega version is best, others say SNES is far better and genesis version is trash lol. Well actually, they both fall short compared to the version on Midway Arcade Treasures 2 on PS2.
My brother and I played the robot baseball and Avengers games a TON on the SNES. I don’t remember ever seeing either of them in an arcade. I’m really surprised at how many of these games were much better on the arcade rather than the console.
One reason I did this one was to show them side by side. The SNES versions don’t look quite as good that way!
Why is that surprising to you ? The arcade machines were way more advanced than a home console.
@@GTSN38 growing up mainly on consoles (SNES, N64) I always thought that more was “put into” the console games; but apparently I had it very wrong!
@@GregsGameRoom you’re absolutely right! The arcade versions (for the most part) were much better all around after viewing.
@@CokerCulture after nes was a thing, I quit paying quarters for arcade, but I read a lot of gaming magazines
You deserve more subscribers, mate. Good quality entertainment 👍
Appreciate it!
Final Fight has to be the most popular beat'em up of all time. 30.000 arcades sold, 1.5 million copies sold on the SNES alone.
Final Fight SNES was a trash fire.
Great video! It was great revisiting these games. It also brings up my biggest gripe with the whole retro games movement over the last decade. New games that are developed are based off of the console versions of games. Which I get, but from someone that was a teen during this era, it's annoying. We already knew then, that we were going to get a sub par version, despite the sticker on the box stating it was ARCADE PERFECT! We understood the hardware limitations, but the marketing always tried to pull the wool over your eyes. This was especially true during the 8 bit era. Some were so bad, that you would just rather save the money and spend $5-10 beating it in the arcade. Many were good as shown in this video. I just wish we had retro games based off of CPS 1/2 or Neo Geo hardware instead of NES and SNES. I also understand that when this generation of developers were young, arcades were long gone.
Long story short, imagine if The Messenger was inspired by the arcade version of Ninja Gaiden instead of the NES version.
Regarding UN Squadron, I feel you might be very much in the minority on the SNES port as many gamers not only prefer the SNES port over the arcade, but they consider it one of the best titles for the console. I myself can 1CC the arcade game (doesn't take long... only 10 short stages).
I suck at shooters!
And I suck at sport games. heh heh
@@nashvillan4lif Both. Although I count NBA Jam as a more Arcade style game than a sports title and I hate sports games.
No Killer Instinct?
Honestly, you have my respect, it took a lot of humility to admit that you simply suck at the game UN Squadron on the SNES to get far enough to really give it a fair comparison.
Speaking as a hard core fan of the game the graphic's, sound and gameplay on the SNES version are all massively superior to the arcade original. I do think once you get the hang of the gameplay there is a lot to really enjoy about the game so I would seriously recommend giving it another go but maybe starting on EASY mode until you get used to the enemy placement on each level.
Thanks. :-)
U.N. Squadron on SNES was awesome! I might have only played it on the arcade once, but it was enough to get me to buy it for home.
Nintendo used to be super powerful hardware.
The Arcade was such a magical place to be in when I was young. Finding a game that brings out this experience is definitely a good one.
Hard to recapture that feeling
That's what Barcades are for.
When we're talking about 16 bit error machines, the arcade wins almost every single time.
It's funny to me that the last game released on the SNES was Frogger.
Hellooo from Gatlinburg TN Smoky Mountains Park! NICE Video!!
Thanks!
I dig UN Squadron, still haven't beat it myself. Didn't know there was an arcade version, surprised to find that it was easier than the home port.
I found it easier anyway.
I did. Played it on PC on Final Burn Alpha. Used the SNES pad to play it too. Both versions are fine in my book with minimal differences(SNES version has a shop and a story for example) The cartridge lose is pretty cheap last I checked and the arcade version is available on the Capcom Arcade compilations that are on everything these days.
Great video. brought back some memories from my childhood.
UN Squadron is based on an anime called Area 88. It was one of the first games I got on the SNES since I loved the anime.
The weirdest thing about T2 on SNES if you use the Super Scope for some reason the graphics change to a negative reversed colors look
Good thing I don’t own one then!
@@GregsGameRoom I was so mad. In my game room is the Genesis version. I think the snes cart is under the sink or garage
I'm not sure if T2 The Arcade Game SNES is compatible with the Konami Justifier Light Guns since I don't own them since they're rare and expensive especially the pink one. But you can be like me and use the SNES mouse which I do know works with T2 and some Super Scope games.
@pixelsncreatures Also you better get to that cartridge in your basement before the rats chew a hole though it.
The idea is to make the colors brighter, so the superscope can identify where the crt beam is. But making the colors negative is too much.
Huh,nokiller instinct? Now i don’t know about those old arcade games such as ms pacman,frogger etc,,, as those games came from a different time frame,and while frogger did got a 16bit overhaul of it,it just doesn’t feel ceromonial as a final snes game,those mentioned arcade games do feel more like a cash grabbing and nothing more,
About street fighter 2 on snes,it’s a great port but those voice samples were sped up at the wrong pitch and they were shortened in length and the intro is missing,the genesis version seems closer to the arcade version of it and despite it’s noisy voices,they are at the right pitch,speed and length
Also, years ago through my own curiosity as to what the earliest digitized fighting game was, I found that there was a game called The Last Apostle Puppetshow that came out in Japan in 1988.
It's interesting how many of the arcade ports are a good deal darker on the SNES. Wonder if this was a conscious choice or just less colors on screen at once? SNES had a pretty wide color pallete so I don't think it was pure lack of color choices.
Could be the emulation palette. On a real TV you could adjust the brightness and the color saturation.
2:10 that is irony i think. Right? Nobody likes Captain America, outside of the USA.
X-Men was better.
Many coins were spend on Combatribes in the arcade. Sadly it did not had a highscore table. Loved the head smacking on 2 enemies and the big stuff you could pick up. Super charming game.
It's awesome. I'm finding a lot of excellent brawlers lately (Undercover Cops for example.)
@@GregsGameRoom You should check out Night Slashers and Violet storm too!
@GregsGameRoom Good thing I picked up the official reissue SNES cart of Undercover Cop from Retro-Bit's website a while back. Wish I could have afforded the boxset that included the cute girl figure from the game. Anyway that version was sold out.
its 2024 and we still dont have cool baseball stuff like 2020 baseball
If you want to play a decent and relatively accurate console port of Pit Fighter, check out the Sega Genesis version. I think that Atari deliberately made the SNES version bad just to try and stick it to Nintendo. This game isn’t the only one to suffer from that. Race Drivin’ and Road Riot were bad on purpose as well.
Yeah the Genesis game is decent. Also I can’t believe that publishers would want a terrible port. Looks bad on them. Has to be other circumstances.
Somebody patched Race Drivin on the SNES to use the SA1 chip and proved it not only could have run much better, but in fact with that chip it would have been the smoothest running home port of the game. If he hadn't done extra coding to control the frame rate it actually ran too fast to be playable! You know somebody screwed up bad when the gameboy version ran and played better than the SNES version. I actually bought the SNES version and took it back to the store and got a refund with no questions asked.
@@hackerx7329 I have that hack. 😁
Fun fact: Argonaut Software ported the Game Boy version.
The SNES port of MK2 was a near flawless translation. It was about 90% identical to the arcade. When MK2 came out I had sweet revenge on two of my Sega fanboy buddies. I had been hearing them laugh and put down my watered down SNES port of MK for an entire year. But this time I had the FAR superior port, and it made them soooooo mad lol.
I noticed King of Dragons is not on this list. It was in the arcades in 1991 and got ported to the SNES in 1994. They're both identical. That's okay because we cannot know every game in the world.
Oh I missed a lot of ports. Gotta save some for later.
@@GregsGameRoom Then I better wait for your next vid!
magic sword better be on that list
@@SevenCompleted Only one way to find out, right?
Say, I like your username and your profile pic. Definitely one of Bandit Keith's cards. Glad I'm a Yugioh fan.
@@Matt-Rat yah my name used to he bandit keith on here before youtube forced usernames and someone else got it first xD so i went with this. Yah his dark machine cards were the best I love barrel dragon.
One cool thing about Neo Geos Fatal Fury was the coop or 2 on 1 that the SNES lacked. So much fun. Unfortunately you had to fight each other after each match but you could team up until Geese
True but I couldn't afford a MVS then and I can't now. So it's nice to have Hamster's Arcade Archives to play them and if you're nostalgic for the Neo Geo controller then Retro-bit makes an official Bluetooth clone.
Knights of the round on the SNES is the closest to it's arcade counterpart one of the Best on the system
UN Squadron for Snes is far better than the Arcade in every way possible.
Captain America and the avengers on snes also removed the ability to block with all characters
Its 2024 so that 2020 game isn't feasable now! But good review.
You didn't mention 'Final Fight Guy' for the SNES.. 😊
The Super Famicom version is cheaper thankfully and doesn't censor out Roxy and Poison.
Un squadron is based on a anime called area 88
Some arcades have a gba version
try hlsl with slot-mask or aperture in mame....even snes emulation can't compare to arcade not to mention real snes :) anyway, good video
Between Arcade Archives, Capcom's retro packs and the Sega collection, I've been playing most of these very recently, all bangers. Commando 2 gives Contra a run for it's money.
Yeah me too. Even been using my Brook Controller Adapters to use my SNES pad on them from the Xbox 360,PS2,PS5 and finally to the Nintendo Switch. Especially the Capcom Arcade ones.
3:47 - ...blasphemy!... that port was freaking attrocious((
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Final Fight was a major fail. Irony that the Sega CD one was better than the arcade.
Sorry mate but are you talking about??? Fatal fury for snes ACCURATE???? Jesus......the collision detection is awful and the second plane is completely missing!!!!!! Have you actually played the game? It doubt it .......
No SNES arcade port was arcade perfect. SNES was inferior hardware. Arcade board makers push the hardware to the limits.
What about Dragon's Lair? 😊
Eh, I don't think I could justify that one! hah
Now I know this guy is a troll. Jokes on him, since my friends dad had a Commodore Amiga that had the best conversation of the Dragon's Lair at that time. Unlike the not Dragon's Lair on SNES.
Is this Gregory Stevens?
i got a neo geo cd and fatal fury games are classics
The letterboxing is due to the fact the Genesis (Mega Drive) had a similar architecture to arcades so was easy to port arcade games and had a higher resolution so often they were ported to Sega' 16-bit juggernaut first before porting to the SNES which is why you get the letterboxing. The original home version is done in a higher resolution on the competitor's system for a lot of arcade games. SFII was an exception to this because I believe Nintendo had exclusivity for the home release for a year.
I figured it was because the SNES was trying to squeeze out as much performance as possible.
Letterboxing on the SNES is to give it more vblank time, so it can update more graphics per frame. It's a performance thing.
I think you meant the architecture of the SEGA model 1 arcade board,well semantics,but while I was a Super Nintendo kid and didn't want or own a Genesis(Mega Drive)at the time or could afford it,I did recently pick up the cheaper Hyperkin HDMI Genesis system that uses FPGA not emulation to play some Golden Axe and Ghostbusters. Plus I own a Brook controller adapter to use my SNES pad on it so I can tick off the SEGA kids.
@@ArcadeIsMyLife1 The same CPU architecture was used on multiple arcade systems at the time. I got a brook adapter to play any modern wireless controller with Dreamcast and Saturn. Cheap FPGA doesn’t exist. Hyperkin products are emulation but still good. Though I mostly have original hardware hooked up to a big CRT TV, I also have one Retron to play NES carts and it works great even if it’s not FPGA. Sega has so many amazing controller options though the SNES controller is also a classic.
@SharifSourour Nah I think you're thinking about that other system they had. The one I have is the Mega Retron HD that I believe uses stolen FPGA technology or similar technology from The Analogue Company for their clones. If it was emulation it wouldn't work with my Genesis Everdrive.
The SNES port of Captain America was a dumpster fire. It was ported by Realtime Associates, a company that doesn’t know how to make a good game. The enemies aren’t stunned if you get your attack in first. If you manage to knock an enemy down, they have an invincibility period while they flicker! The difficulty was artificially inflated in all of the wrong ways.
Yeah, it wasn't great, but I was trying to be nice. ;-)
@@GregsGameRoomI’d prefer honesty. lol
Tell Disney to get off their hides and have Hamster port Captain America to Arcade Archives since they're hurting for money now and I can play it on my Nintendo Switch and laugh at Red Skull's dumb laugh.
I played the hell out of Street Fighter II on SNES. It was a very good port.
It's a conversion not a port. But it definitely ticked off the SEGA kids that's for sure until they got a version of Street Fighter 2. But I still prefer Street Fighter 2 Turbo SNES over the original SNES one and Super Street Fighter 2 SNES and I'm glad Capcom included that version on the SNES Classic Edition.
Dude, you forgor STREET FIGHTER ALPHA 2... other than that, great vid 👍🏽
SNES was a bit overrated as far as visuals
Some games look rough.
Street Fighter 2 was really good, NBA Jam was better on Genesis. Turtles in Time was great, lots of good ports. Pit Fighter is awful.
Sunset Riders and Super Smash TV
Both awesome ports!
Not a bad SNES conversation of Sunset Riders(and an expensive one at that on the second hand market). But thankfully the Arcade version is on Arcade Archives now. As for Smash TV on SNES, the best home conversation out of all the home consoles and I'm glad they put in that stage select code so I skip to the end since the Arcade version is a slog to get through.
I love your videos, but are you trying to say “phrenetic” or “frantic”? It’s driving me nuts to hear “phrentic” over and over and not know which is meant
UN Squadron was Area 88 in Japan. Manga and anime.
One of these days it be nice if someone would put the Area 88 anime on 4K Blu-ray if someone hasn't already.
Killer Instinct?
Saving it for later.
SNES conversation wasn't bad. But now a days I'll just play the Arcade versions on my Xbox Series X. More so KI2.
There's a trick to Hit the Ice in regards to scoring goals. I can't remember what it is, but it's definitely possible. lol
I think the Super Nintendo version of turtles is better than the Arcade. The Genesis game sounds Arcade music.
Some of the bosses make more sense.
@@GregsGameRoom yeah I have all three versions. That's Super NES is the best by far.. especially when it's first came out
Growing up playing these games both arcade , snes, genesis I can clearly recall how great the arcade would be but how close the Super Nintendo graphics came close it was not as robust but very close. Super Nintendo was the more graphically accurate and impressive when it came to ports then the genesis which sported ugly & graphically inferior ports more often then not. The Sega exclusives like streets of rage and sonic were the best offerings and some games like rocket night adventures and a few other masterpieces. SNES however was superior.
A few other masterpieces? What are you blind? Or just biased? Or did you just happen to not notice the superior graphics, and sound in many Sega Genesis games. You know, like Thunder Force 4? Or Gunstar Heroes? Or how about Ranger X? And while i was a huge Sega Genesis fan growing up, over the years I really started to appreciate the Super Nes. But games like Thunder Force would never run on Super Nintendo hardware, or Gunstar Heroes for that matter. Or comparing the Manhattan Project to Turtles in Time, while the Genesis version is good. It doesn't hold a candle to Turtles in Time, but you certainly don't know your facts well enough to make such an outlandish statement. both systems have their strengths, and weaknesses. But you obviously haven't sat down and played the Genesis enough to have any idea what your talking about. I could sit here pointing out a lot more titles than that, but I'm not going to waste time doing it. And considering that I've been gaming since 78', and been collecting since my teens. I know exactly what I'm talking about, you do not my friend
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After watching this video, I have only one question: Does Greg actually think "frentic" is a word?
LoL, it most definitely is a word!
Cap America and the Avengers in the "top 3" of arcade beat em ups??? No lol! It's not even the top five, let alone ten lol
Opinions are like...
@@GregsGameRoomhe’s not wrong though, AvP, both D&D games, both TMNT games, X-men, Simpsons, armored warriors, battle circuit.
Captain America is fun but it’s shallow compared to most beat em ups in the arcade.
Are you trying to say "Frenetic" or "Frantic" - it feels like you are combining the two words. I wouldn't say anything, but you said it like 3-4 times in this episode alone, lol. I realize how this makes me look as a word nazi, sorry if it annoys you... I would want someone to address it for me.
Nope, frentic is a word. At least it was...
@@GregsGameRoom I see, a lesser used "old" version of Frantic... and the corrector stands corrected... I will just see myself out now, lol.
You will be the one escaping. Erm..... That's not good
Red Skull always had that dumb laugh in the Arcade version. That always cracked me up.
I’m enjoying the video so far. I’ll probably have more comments coming, but regarding NBA jam was it really digitized graphics because for years I believed that it was digitized.. but take a close look, are they really?? They look more artificial than anything.
The players heads are but their bodies are regular sprites so Midway could swap heads on the bodies in NBA Jam to save on memory space. They used the same photo technology they used for Mortal Kombat but only scanned the NBA players' heads.
@@ArcadeIsMyLife1 makes sense
Ms Pacman on the SNES was actually a whole lot better; the best I've ever played(once owned this one).
UN Squadron is super hard; I have never beaten it, but I have made it to the last level(on AVG DIFF) and the next to the last level is hard enough to the last level. Never played the arcade...
But, to me, the secret to UNS is the planes you get; I save to buy the 250K, 350k, and 1M dollar planes. Another tip: Early on and after you beat the tank, forget those free easy money bases; you won't get much money for them; instead, play the Forest level and--as long as you get halfway through--you'll earn a lot money each time(the golden star). Then, when the home screen begins to beep, you'll have to play the 1st plane target. Buy the $250k plane, stock up, and you should be on your way...
While it's not a bad version of Ms Pacman. I'm not a fan of the zoomed in maze that makes it harder to tell where the ghost are and I don't like the new sprites. Personally I rather play Ms. Pacman on Namco Museum PS2 with my SNES controller adapter then this SNES convertion.
@@ArcadeIsMyLife1 I loved that Ms. Pacman and hated to have to sell it. I would have given that game a 15 on a 10 rating scale for the type of game it was. I could really find nothing wrong with it and it wasn't just the many features that it had over the arcade(I never used more than the level skip, speed as the arcade, and traditional maze anyway--I'm a purist). Still, they were there to be used and I could determine no speed issues or lag and it looked great to me...HOWEVER, YOU DO HAVE A RIGHT TO YOUR OWN OPINION.
Pit Fighter arcsde is so balls hard that ecwn while cheating in mame i could bot best the games unless i turned invincibility mode on.
You really need to stop having your cat stop tap dancing on your keyboard. Very poor grammar.
SNES was not as great as people remember.... Genesis with Sega CD was vastly superior
“I’m not a big fan of the Neo Geo Fighting games..”
Then you’ve just disqualified you opinion on the matter.
Not a fan of the price or the controllers but I like the Neo Geo Fighting Games(well most of them) and I'm more of a Capcom Fighting Game fan and thankfully there's emulation and and controller adapters that solves both issues these days. Got them all on my Nintendo Switch.
He lost me there as well. There are too many Neo Geo fighters out there to not like at least one or two.