BRAND BATTLE! MERCURY 200 PRO XS vs. SUZUKI 200 SS (WOW!!)
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- BRAND BATTLE! MERCURY 200 PRO XS vs. SUZUKI 200 SS (WOW!!)
The Tiny Piston/Short Stroke V8 Mercury vs Big Piston/Long Stroke I4 Suzuki. Who wins? Comment below on if your running one of these outboards and what your experience has been like. The Merc guys battle the Zuk guys! FIGHT!!!
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Mercury 200 or Suzuki 200? Which outboard are you picking?
Yamaha VMAX sho 200. Plus another $1200 gets ya a 250hp tune...
If I was racing or a tournament fisher all day Mercury. But for every day fishing and just cruising with the family I would pick the Suzuki, reliability, warranty and cost.
The one in stock 😆
@@maddgoatee9708 if the only choices on the market were zuk and merc, I would have a zuk over a merc all day. Grew up in Wisconsin and drove by the merc plant in fon du lac every weekend as a kid omw north to my grandparents lake house, and still wouldn't buy one 🤣
@@mathutson8360 that's been making decisions a lot easier to make the last couple years 🤣
I have a 200 Pro XS on 1880 MS Angler . Love the performance.
Great video, hell yes on the live cams
I have a 200 Mercury....I am absolutely blown away with the fuel economy I'm getting compared to what I got outta my old 175 fast strike.... especially with the heat and humidity down here in Florida
Oh no doubt Rick, those fast strikes were thirsty SOB's
On my small bass boat I have been running a Suzuki DT25 c since 95 what a work horse
Awesome video Andy! Get this guy some live shop cameras
Thanks buddy!!!
I agree with ya Andy! Suzuki needs a v6 200 and a v6 225 ASAP
They definitely do! We have told them that time and time again. Still nothing
Right! That's why my overall choice in this segment would be the 200 VMAX Yammy and their legendary reliability. Same engine as the 250hp VMAX, so it's going to last longer than the 250 as long as the oil is kept up with
Can you do videos for dummies like me on the basics of motors. Like literally what everything is, what it does, what to look for, how to maintain, all that kind of stuff? I’m a new boat owner and know very limited amount about boats in general, especially outboards. I know cars well but I would love to learn more about boats and motors from you! Just an idea! Love the channel!
Do a review of the Mercury 150 Pro XS 4 Stroke vs the Suzuki 150 SS vs the Yamaha 150 SHO
Definitely yes to the live cam!
How would the Suzuki DF200 do on a 2002 22' Seaswirl Striper cuddy cabin with a factory hard top? which would you recommend and what kind of mpg would i get out of either? ( I know either will better mpg than the original 150 Evinrude FICHT Ram injection that came with the boat). btw the 2002 FICHT still running strong.
What are your suggestions for prop for the 200 SS on a 19’5 javelin. Just installed a bobs action Jack plate and made sure I’m WOT right now I’m on a stock 19p Suzuki prop which doesn’t have near my speed I was getting out of my 175 Fitch. Which was 65 at WOT before she blew 😂 hoping to get more speed than 65 with 25 more hp
Rockin the 200 ProXS 4S on my Z19. 80hrs and no problems yet. Sips gas, sounds awesome and luckily I got the 8 year warranty for almost free so at least there's that.
Do you have the plume of smoke on startup?
@@craigkellam1580 I did initially if I left it trimmed down for quite a while but after I changed the oil myself, I do not. The correct fill level is the 2nd ball on the dipstick. Anything more is technically overfilled and you'll get the smoke occasionally. Learned this from one of the best Mercury mechanics in the country over on BBC Forums.
Love the video, good job. I have a question. I purchased a Weldcraft 240 Cuddy king with a Suzuki 300. Loaded for fishing I can only hit 5650rpm. Engine wot it 5700 - 6300. I’m running Suzuki 3x16x17 pitch. I can’t find a prop lower in stainless anywhere. Power tech makes a LSF4 4 blade 15, 16 and 17pitch. Should I do 4 blade or find after market prop? 16” dia I don’t have much options. Pretty screwed here
That’s pretty awesome Jim Wells calling you back. Hey may miss your call and it may take him a longer than a day or so to call you back. But Jim is going to call you back and help you out any way he can. Always does for me. And he don’t mind talking to ya. Very good guy.
Great information!
Yes please add live cams to the shop that would be awesome!
I have a 2018 200 optimax on my prov bass xs 1875 and I’m looking to repower it as my warranty is up next year. I had to replace the power head at 100 hours as it decided to grenade and blew some holes in the block. I have almost 100 hours on the new power head and I’m nervous. I kept hearing Suzuki and I’m interested to know if you have put one on a pro v bass successfully or should I just put a merc pro xs back on it?
I must have missed a video, what are the issues with the 200 zukis on different boats performance wise? Is it props? Or is it motor height adjustment? I guess i would think if you took 2 exact boats, and threw the 200 zukis on them they would both perform the same. But... maybe i missed that video.
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Hello friend!
Looking to put a new 175/200 Mercury or Suzuki on my 92 Champ. It's a 20ft boat and had a 175xri Mercury which just blew up. Thoughts on which motor I should go with.....Thanks
Out of curiosity what types of issues are you having dialing the 200 zuk ss in? Anything to do with propping and torque issues on heavier glass hull's? I would imagine the zuk might be a slouch in the torque department because of those missing glory holes that other brands have in the 200 segment that generate gobs of torque... Just thinking out loud, but very curious.
That’s exactly the issue. It’s performance ratings stated under a specific load. Depending on application they’re both great. If your needs align with the Suzuki and you have a good dealer in your area. It wins In specific conditions. If the closest authorized Suzuki repair center is 1.5 hours away, get the merc! Another thing, I’d rather have Japanese than American made for any salt water application (not brackish), but salt, mercury has a strong corrosion warranty now, but it’s hard to prove up and actually get work covered (hell they call mercs anchors for a reason) Suzuki and Yamaha are designed with salt in mind.
Elaborate on performance? Top end? Bottom end? What are the boats they work and don't work on? Is it a prop issue? Gear ratio issue?
Thinking about repowering my 06 stratos 294 xl with a 200ss suzuki. What's your thoughts on this?
Hey Andy
love the videos. After watching several I decided to upgrade to a Suzuki 150 on my 89 ranger 365v. Currently running a quicksilver 16548A40 23p laser II cause that's what I had. Bumping the rev limiter at 50. Any suggestions on a better prop choice?
Thanks
Frank
Try a trophy or raker 3 in 24" if you think you're close in pitch
Got my Hat yesterday Guys,thank you I like it Alot.
👍🏻👍🏻 Awesome Mike! Glad ya like it
How do u think the Suzuki would preform on Champion 190dc? Suzuki if the only repower option as of now. Can't find a Merc
I would like to see the gpg graphs of the motors @ cruise speeds and WOT. The 4 stroke 150 merc would run 5-7 mpg at 30 depending on load.
If the Suzuki is better it might be my. pick
Thanks for the honest comparison. 👍 Suzuki would be great if they got the performance up.
I agree, but sometimes they will deliver more performance at the cost of quality, and that, isn’t worth it
First time I’ve ever seen the background so empty. Go break something on your boat people, keep Team Marine busy! Lol. Great video.
Live cam 👌
Let’s see that 115 brand battle 🙌
All the categories mercury won are the important ones....performance, dealer support, prop choice all the main reasons to pick an outboard
Reliability is the #1 reason to buy
All the major brand out boards are good today they build very reliable
For the most part yes we agree
Can you do a video on some smaller motors like 60hp to 115hp
I’ve ran Mercury for last 15 years, 2 stroke optimax until 2014 ran great never any issues, 2014 150 pro xs until 2022 no issues, now a 200 Merc pro xs on my Ranger z518. Runs great very happy with the 4 stroke so far. To be fair I’ve never owned a Suzuki and all my boats have been outfitted with Merc. So I’m going with the track record I’ve experienced. Mercury for me but I’m sure the Suzuki is a quality motor.
Hey fair enough buddy! Glad you're having good luck with those Mercs! 👍🏻
@@TeamMarineService me too! Can’t afford to have something break!!
Thoughts on a 200 Suzuki 200 on a 198 champ? That’s about the only option at this point for a 4 stroke?
I got a 200 merc on my vexus 2080 and I love it
I have a Mercury 115 pro xs and it’s slow. I’m hoping to get it remounted so I can put a bigger prop and get the right rpm.
What boats do you thing a Suzuki works best on and worst on?
LIVE CAM! That would be sweet
I remember when the 200 HP Optima Max and Skeeter and Ranger boats were the best. In the earls 80s my family was camping out at Lake Worth Lake in Texas. They had a race out there and like 20 boats lined up all at once and held on to a road. My dad got laughed at when he pulled up to the starting line with a 140 Suzuki strapped on to his Thunderbolt bass boat. He got clocked at 92 MPH. If I remember correctly the second fastest boat was clock at 73 MPH. The race didn’t even look real. Dads boat was a 16’ Thunderbolt with a 10” jack plate and this fin he designed. My step mom worked at a air craft company and one of the engineers made the fin out of Air craft aluminum instead of steal. With the steel fin dads boat would go mid 70s. After the fin was made out of the aircraft aluminum is when it could hit the upper 80s. Back then the speed O on boats were only 65 - 75 MPH. Dad kept breaking his. He got tired of replacing it. It was clocked on Lake Granbury and Lake Worth and 92 mph was the fastest it’s ever been clocked at. After the boat was clocked at 92, he eventually ported and polished the heads and jetted the carbs. He drilled out the oil injectors on the cam to keep the engine cool. The boat was never clocked after the mods. Don’t know how many hours were on the motor but the motor now sit at the bottom of Lake Granbury. Dad and I we’re flying down the lake one early morning and we were WFO as he would say and we seen this motor beside us. The water was smooth as glass. That was the most scariest boat ride we have ever been on in our entire lives. Man that motor sounded so good. Sure miss my dad. We had some great times together. Best times ever were on the lake. Except this one time. LoL!!!
So which boats are the Suzukis not working on? 1993 - 190 Champ?? Or just do a video on which motors to upgrade on the Champ models. I know lots of guys doing restorations and repowers..
Now I have an idea what boat you guys will be stocking in the fall.....maybe....
Will the Suzukis 150 fit any 1980 champs and up
Those damn suzi rigging grommets 🤦🏻♂️ and spot on with merc trim troubleshooting 🤯🤣
Subscribed! I really enjoyed this review. I speak motorhead!
Yes if they had a 225 for my Stratos I would haven went that way! Put a 225 Mercury on mine so far so good 110 hrs !
Hey Tactacam! Let's work out a deal!
Can’t you get a regular df200 and swap lower units and it’s the same as an SS?
Hey Andy! I have a 1988 Skeeter Sk2000 with a 200 murc 2 stroke! The boat is in great shape. I found out today I can put a brand new Mercury 200 Pro xs on it ,plug and play ready to go! Cheaper than a new aluminum bass boat I was looking at! I'm going with the new Mercury
These 4 stroke out bord motors making oil is it something to be considered about
Impressive "karate chop!" Hope you could get out of bed the next day. 🤣
Great video! Always appreciated the HONEST reviews.
Live cam! Most definitely
phoenix 819 with 200 mercury, would you put a Suzuki on it?
Best boat to put the 200 Suzuki on?
Love the brand battles. Thumbs up to a live cam 📷. Keep them coming
I thought Mercury was 100% Ford motor Co. But I recently learned some the Mercury (inboards) are GM made. Is it the same for outboards?
Ford had a sister brand called Mercury but that was totally different from Mercury marine. Merc used GM sourced engines for their inboards. Outboards are all Mercury marine made
What do you think about the 300/350 Suzuki Vs 300/350 Mercury
Which motor would be better for a 22ft deep hull boat cuddy cabin walk around. We really want mercury. With 200hp being max
All the way around doesn’t have to be these two just looking for a good outboard as we are buying new looking for performance and reliability.
What do you think about putting the 200 Suzuki on a pantera
Could you guys do a top 5 fish and ski boats!?
My 200 mercury lad down after 23 years now she’s almost rebuild
How about the best motor for a tiller boat? Also curious what boats Suzuki doesn’t work on?
That's a great idea Andrew
What if I put a Suzuki ss 200 on a falcon f195
so what boats are the suz not good on
That V8 power/speed plus the dealer network means I would choose Mercury every time.
200 hp mercury pro xs came with my new boat, so….I will use that for now.
2022 ProXS 200 on the BassCat P2. Runs outstanding not to many 250s can keep up with it..
Can u give a list of the boats the suzuki works best on that you have seen?
It will be more of a situation of which prop, setback, engine elevation works best on a given boat.
Are Venus vx21 good boats
Have the suzuki ss 200 it is the quietest idle motor i’ve ever had perfect for fishing and a beautiful sound when running and fuel economy is even better it is the best motor i’ve ever run
Performance means nothing when it's in the shop. I'll take reliability over performance. The amount of money it costs for a new motor is devastating to most households.. If I could afford a new one it would be the 5 year warranty and reliability of the Suzuki.
How about a 250 Suzuki, Yamaha & Honda comparison?
Is true that the 150,175 & 200 Suzuki's all have the same block? Just different tuning.
Yes
Should do an over under on a phoenix 721 pro xp
Live cam would be so cool.
Never owned a Suzuki. But a local pro in my area (Brandon Card) runs one on a Vexus and of course he loves it. It does look bad ass too! Great video Andy! Just curious Andy. Does the Pepsi machine in the background actually work, and do you provide your workers with free sodas while on the job?
Pepsi machine does work and it's free soda for all employees and of course our loyal customers! 👍🏻
@@TeamMarineService Wow, what a great boss!
Yes livecam
Now i'm REALLY curious which boats the Suzuki doesn't go well with
Put the 200 xs v8 on my 05 519vx. Performs well and so far no issues, unless I just jinxed myself. 😁
What's your top speed?
@@warrencottonoutdoorscrappi7070 69-70 with just me. 67 loaded and two people.
Does Suzuki make the SS in 225hp?
Good video 👍
Thanks 👍
Great video! Question: Cody Meyers mentioned on BTL fishing for one practice day and all of a tourney on the James River with his suzuki tell tale indicator clogged from running in shallow muddy water. You mean you can run with that clogged for several days?
Can u run with a tell tail plugged for several days without it really hurting the motor?...sure...would any boat dealer tell you u can noooo....would I recommend you do it....no.
How about Suzuki 350 outboard vs mercury 350 outboard
I would take the Suzuki every time don’t give a flying F - - k how fast something goes it’s about the fishing and turn the key and go 😂😂 good show Andy
Absolutely love your TH-cam channel.
Thanks Marcus! We appreciate your support!
Forgot to add which one sounds the best on start up.
Definitely the Mercury. The V8's are the best sounding motors on the market.
There’s a video of Yamaha 250 and Suzuki 250 ss outboard side by side on the water ! How about u do a reaction to the video !
We've seen that video. In our opinion the rig with the Suzuki is not set up properly or propped correctly. Would be a good video for us though! 👍🏻
Live cam so we can see how much you really love Nitro 😂
Team Marine reality show please
I have a Covid built 200 Pro XS… wish me luck!! 🤣
Good luck buddy! 👍🏻👍🏻
@@TeamMarineService at least I have an Ultrex to get me back to the launch!
@@Everarmed89 ur double f**ked 🤣
Yeah me too Ever…
Suzuki all day long! Love my df25a
What do you think about a 200 SS on a champ 202?
250 SS or bust!
there are just so many Mercury dealers and there is always a shop close by in the north. HOWEVER, i have to drive 1hr 30min+ to have my Yamahas looked at.....
The only option for a 200hp outboard is a Yamaha. It's a detuned 335hp motor, a simple ECU flash or swap and you can get 300hp or more.
2 things, 1. How reliable are the mercs? Looking at a new boat and merc is really the only option. 2. You said suzuki 200 was the most reliable, what about yamaha or honda?
LIVE CAM!!!!!!😀
Brand battle hydrolic steering!!!!!!
Suzuki or Yamaha outboard motor is better don't care about horse power reliable & dependable. Just scribe to your channel great advice u give 💯💯💯💯💯
We give the tick to Suzuki for reliability but we still believe in Yamaha products. They are rock solid too!
If Suzuki could and the other brands could just make an outboard attractive their sales would double! That’s half the reason people choose mercury. They look so much better in the back. In all sizes