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- 2025 Volkswagen Tiguan - I'm OUT
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No manufacturer has gone backward in exterior design and interior usability and quality quite like VW. It's incredible.
I remember maybe 6 or 7 years ago looking at them and thinking they all looked nice and were very functional, these latest designs are horrible in comparison
Unfortunately they won’t learn until consumers stop buying these awful looking cars and force a redesign.
The interior design is worse than the previous model, but quality has improved which is nice to see. Although I agree that the exterior is a step back compared to the previous generation.
@@JRBeckford Well the VW brand itself (not the conglomerate with all the other brands) is in deep trouble.
The Chinese aren't buying them anymore and the US market has always been weak for them, because their design, history and non-understanding of American taste stands in their way.
Apparently even the once strong Mexico and South American markets have turned away from them.
Only some die hard VW Germans (lots of them union members working for them) seem to still buy them.
I for one can't wait to see the whole VW empire (& the rest of the arrogant deceiving German auto industry) to collapse.
Look up their history and look up Anton Piëch (*1894).
The downfall of the German car industry will accelerate the political desintegration of the country & the European Union itself.
Down with VW , BMW , Mercedes , etc. !
Dreadful car.
Vw grills been looking awful recently , previous version looks better to me .
I’m ready to buy a Chinese car brand, since the Germans basically making Hyundais
@@mikeicee if Great Wall would send Haval vehicles to Canada i would check them out
I agree
Say thank you for id line up they made VW preatty ugly
@@mikeiceeBuy a Mazda, they look great and they are starting to put inline 6s in their vehicles.
It actually looks older and downmarket compared to the current one. Too many curved lines, VWs need hard edges.
The curved lines aren't the problem imo, it's the weird tail lights choice, & the front lights are no exception
Really disappointing
@@xXVibrantSnowXx
And what u can say about this ugly and dump display,who the hell needs a tv in the dashboard...
YES, exactly. These curves aren't even beautifully done, they're just bumpy lumps.
it's all for better drag coefficient, meaning it's better for the user.
I have high expectations from VW but this T_T
Once again you are Absolutely Right... These "NEW" designs are becoming very lazy...
Eventually lazy will become the new norm.
All of the great cars have already been made. Keep your old car. It’s only going to get worse from here.
i kinda disagree. I like the 2006 era of cars and when you look at them they are surprisingly very bland styling wise. The new ones have too much character
@@carlosandleon Example:. Everyone just putting a large Rectangle or square for a Dash. BMW to the 2024 Mustang. It's just easy lazy designing. And to just make a Round pod because of EV Aero. Example the New Lotus EV Cars coming out.
same with the aventador revuelto, but he doesn't go a hard a he does in this one.
I think the main goal of design was to improve drag coefficient from 0.33 to 0.28
While sacrificing good design....
Maybe their priority is longer range@@TimeisReel
@@amir434yLower CO2 for EU law
BMW X1 cd: 0.27
Try to explain that to a designer this is engineered specially with improve drag in mind.
The current car looks more high end to me, the new one is kinda generic.
The new Tiguan looks like a 10 years old Renault Kadjar, or Nissan Qashqai. As these 2 brands graded up their designs with stronger, more defined lines; VW is throwing away what once defined the brand. A Golf 4, Golf 6 or 7 looked like a high quality car; defined lines; well built. This also counts for the Tiguan Gen.2. ID4/5, as well ass the new Tiguan don't look ugly, but - logo taken away - could well be an MG, an older Renault, or any Chinese brand. They don't look like a high quality car; which VWs still are in the point of view of chassis, steering, rigidity, comfort a.s.o. Bit they don't transpose it in terms of design or materials; although VW has recently done some efforts in the interior materials.
A good design has to be recognisable; as standing for the mentionned cars, but has also to give a high quality feel from the optical point of view. The mainly useless black plastic parts and grills are horrible. Some good examples for a strong car design are the absolutely timeless Honda S2000, Audi TT Gen. 1+2, Mazda CX-60, the last Mercedes C-Class, VW Arteon, BMW E46 Coupé a.s.o.
They need to fire their lead designers. They went from making some of the best, clean and confident designed vehicles to confusing moosh.
Exactly my thoughts man! I own a VW Passat and I have been looking to upgrade to Tiguan. I was waiting for the next generation... But damn, I am so disappointed in VW overall designs for new Tiguan and new Passat. Uggly, damn uggly cars and I am out - i will not buy VW anymore.
They're making this look more like their ID range of EVs. Not a good idea imo. Keep that look for those vehicles and give us classic VW design for all others!
i agree with everything, i don't like the new one, old model looks much better, too bad many new models lately looks worse than the previous ones, and this is the top version just imagine how ugly the base model will look like
The normal version without the “R” sport package looks much better. In my opinion, the non sporty trims usually look better (basically in any car) because they are more elegant, with simpler lines and don’t have stupid and unnecessary design elements to look more aggressive.
Actually, I think car brands nailed the sporty trims in the 2000’s and early 2010’s, because, even though the cars obviously looked a bit more sporty, they were still quite discrete and elegant.
thats a good point. They didn't scream trim levels at people as status symbols back them and the cars in general were designed in less of a "try hard" manner. My exception is there was a period there in the 2000's where alot of new car designs were abysmally dull and non-cohesive. Especially out of the american brands - things like chevy malibu, everything out of dodge at the time, etc.
It looks like one of those pieces of electronics that you discover different protective film pieces on every part for years to come.
I totally agree with you! Especially with the interior, why are car manufacturers slicking in a “tv” or large tablet, obstructing our view? It looks so cheap.
The new TIGUAN looks better without the R-line body kit !
1000% agree… who let the I.D. Team design the Tiguan? It’s soft, in a Ford way. Profile could be an Escape. Where is that intentional line flow that VW is known for? Whole thing screams budget.
Becouse it is Ford And VW have and agreement look at Ford Ranger and Amarok and transit and multivan so i think this is based on kuga
@@emka9537🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️ no it isn't. It is based on the MQB platform, the same as many other VWs, Audis, Skodas, Cupras etc from the last decade
@@emka9537 That makes so much sense. It’s a redecorated Kuga.
I believe the new Tiguan was one of the last designs from the last VW design chief Kaban before he was let go. the new ID1 they just showed is supposed to supplant the previous concept that didn't receive well from the public (ID life)
They needed to have let gp this car too it’s terrible it really gonna hurt vw. I think they purposely sabotaged VW. this looks like a reject car from kia.
I love the current Tiguan - surely one of the most handsome SUVs out there. This on the other hand is pretty disappointing from an exterior styling point of view.. looks like a sacrificial lamb to bridge the gap between current model and ID.. I would even say it's dated and generic. Bit of a shame VW went back in the direction of the previous gen Tiguan instead of building upon the current gen
I totally agree as a Golf 8 GTI Clubsport and previous Golf 7 FL GTI owner. Volkswagen is on it's way down and didn't find the exit until now. The new Tiguan is just the next downgrade.
I got used to the generic look, less refined interior & exterior and the cheaper materials. More bling-bling with bigger screens and LED lights, matching our society needs.
My next car won't be a Volkswagen anymore. They lost their identity and are just purely another mass market car brand. Ford, Hyundai, Kia, Toyota, etc. Made a step up, Chinese brands three or four steps and VW one, two, probably three down. They met in the middle. There is an analogy to this with the homeland of VW, the economy, society and their football team... but let's stop until it's getting too political here 😅
The current one looks like a VW. It’s much better and cleaner and instantly recognizable. I don’t know why they would change the design language so much, what they have works, it just needs refined! Feels like one exec has a “vision” for the corporate face of VW and is forcing change that isn’t needed. Cars already look so similar these days, making this look less “VW” was a bad call, I think. It’s more forgettable. Don’t even get me started on that interior… seems every new car interior is cheap and lazy
Light bars on the front and the back is one of the worst design trend i can think of, the last gen BMW 7-series facelift aged horribly because of it and there is a reason the new 7-series doesn’t have a connecting rear light bar anymore…
Over all the new Tiguan looks like a lower class downgrade compared to the predecessor. Its baffling how many car brands are getting their designs wrong this gen. Must be something in the air lol
We just need a lifted arteon instead of Tiguan or taos
Skull emoji moment. 💀💀💀💀
@@JackVac_joeblowerlifted arteon > Tiguan taos
@@WillDavlin😅💀💀💀
Yeah, those ones. ☠️
@@JackVac_joebloweryou'd rather get the Tiguan or taos than a raised arteon?
@@WillDavlin That is not what I said. I have no opinions on that.
I am confused? The VW Tiguan Allspace will be replaced by a redesigned VW Tayron for global markets. According to about every motor mag, the US VW Tiguan will be based on the 2nd generation Tayron. So, how do you deduct that the Tiguan for the US market will just be a stretch version of the 3rd generation Tiguan?
Every line has to have a function. The boring interior with the tablet has a function to decrease manufacturing costs (thanks Tesla) and increase profitability.
i actually think the front and the rear end come from different cars, the red color doesnt help at all, but i would love to see your redesing, the new interior look way modern compared to the current one
From Ford Kuga
To me VW did the same mistreatment to the Tiguan design as they did with the new Passat Variant. Don‘t know why one wants to replace an almost iconic, timeless design with something so utterly interchangeable. And don‘t get me started with their hellish interiors lately…
Actually, North America will get a totally different car, the formally China only Tayron, that will be renamed the Tiguan.
Anyway, the Tiguan (in R variant) was the smaller car that didn't sell in North America. There was no R for the All Space/American Tiguan.
I just glad the added a lot of new color and removed the fake exhaust. The interior is far, far, better in materials, colors, and appointments. Its also much quieter. Did anyone notice the real buttons on the steering wheel. BTW, you can change/mix and max the ambient lighting.
It looks like someone just forced a Toyota Camry or Sienna grill onto a VW. All I see is desperately trying to chase after Toyotas grill
The older design looked beefy AF
It looks better than the long wheel base one we have in the states which lost all its personality and style by being stretched. I hope the stretch of this gen is executed better.
I was never a big fan of the current Tiguan. I always thought it had way too many horizontal lines, especially in the front. A mess of lines, no focus. But at least it was boxy. One of the elements is the D pillar with the angle continuing into the body,, which reminds one of the Golf. The new one has no coherence or identity. It's just a blob with some random styling elements splashed on it.
Could you please do a render front and rear for the mk8 GTI facelift based on the new Tiguan & Passat.
Totally agree. The design is not distinctive. The previous one was. Take off the badges of the previous one and you still know it's a Tiguan. Take off the badges of the new one... nope... Korean? Chinese?
And the big-screen pissing contest needs to stop.
I liked cars that could hide their screens... back in the early days of Nav.
The current Tiguan looks proper german and serious the way it should be. New one looks childish and silly. This front end with some little tweaks could be a Citroen.
They really went from arteon to this… that’s sad.
I wonder if the designers think this looks better.
I know this may not glue with the subject of the video but, can we talk about car marketing 5 minutes? It is really getting stupid and out of hand. Like we have gotten from a ford seller who film a commercial for TV and saying all the good points about the car to a lamda blonde australia women that look like a Barbie (Supercar Blondie) and just manipulate us and lies all along the way. I mean, f*ck you car commpanies. And then weirdo 50 years old guys buy the car because they take her as a p*rn star (which she is). Money. 🙄
What is the solution to that you think guys?
riot and over throw corporations
@@SALEENS7GTR5 facts. ☠️
@@SALEENS7GTR5What do you mean? Your coment mean nothing lmao. 😂
In comparison the News one Looks Like the much cheaper alternative. Im actually sad that they are moving away from the current Designlanguage, wich imo is really perfekt. It Looks really classy and way above its price.
1982 called, they want their tiguan back.
You dont understand the strategy bro. If you compare the new ID GTI with the new Tiguan, VW has a briliant strategy. It is trying to make us hate crossovers by making them uglier than the regular cars.
I actually think this looks pretty decent. I want a PHEV so bad in the states. I think the 12 inch screen will look way better.
I wonder if the base and SE trim will be less shiny. I think the old interior was classic and slightly boring. happy for real buttons.
This honestly looks so bad
VW can do better, but they've been really lazy with this design
@@xXVibrantSnowXxChina is now the world’s biggest car market.
VW didn’t design this for us. They designed it for THEM.
VW sold themselves out to the Chinese with the tiguan and Passat redesigns.
@@faheemabbas3965 Like giant smartphones the size of an iPad mini now. So sick that this People is driving the whole planet in every aspect.
Phev is still only 2WD. Trash. I would consider the new Tiguan phev if it had 4WD.
I think the new Tiguan looks like the id4, bmw x3 and the vw taigo all had a baby together but it got all the bad attributes of its parents
VW design has been SUCH a miss lately. My neighbour has an id.4 and it’s really not to my taste.
What have VW done!? The R line Tiguans had so much presence about them before.
MASSIVE downgrade. Only thing I'd take from it is the taillights.
According to Volkswagen we will not get this version at all. This is the European/Australia version. We will get China's version called the VW Tayron and the Tayron X. It will be rebadge as the Tiguan and Tiguan X for America. The Tayron is more kin to the current Tiguan with hints of the Atlas exterior. Like the current Tiguan the Tayron will have optional third row seating. The 2024 Tayron doesn't have the updated virtual cockpit nor does it have the new terrain knob selector. The gear selector will remain in the current position as the current Tiguan. The interior is nice more upscaled then the current Tiguan but we'll see how people respond to it. I think the reason we never got the Tiguan R is because of the cost, it would have retail for around $62,000.00 which is the same reason we don't get the VW Touareg, it can cost $80,000 to over $100, 000 well equip. VW of America fear of the VW Phaeton disaster makes them make decision to not bring over any VW over a certain price range to America. I think it's a huge mistake. If you build the look, quality, design, tech and performance they will come VW.
These huge screen in new model has really destroy the interior design. The current model looks much prettier inside and outside. What happened to the VW?
100% agree on all fronts. Can’t believe more people aren’t reacting this way
I disagree in every point lol Liking the new design a lot.
not bad imo. No capacitive touch buttons on the steering wheel is a plus. Better infotainment.. from the driver POV, it is not blocking the view out the windshield.
Great video, awful design. VW lost their way aestheticly since the dieselgate.
Bembli, you can, maybe, consider adding a scoring system. With categories like
-is it an upgrade in design over the previous generation model
-current exterior design score
-interior design score
-equipment
-how does it stack up to competition offerings
-will it be desirable in 10-15-20 years
Great video. Thanks! Bye!
Same foot rest aluminum part you can find in every single VW Group compact to mid size car: Golf, A3, polo, Passat, TT, A1, Leon, Fabia, Tiguan, Ateca, Formentor, ... and I could write 10 lines more 😁😁😁
11:03 It is like if Volvo made a 4 door Chevrolet Monte Carlo
As an Architect I couldn’t agree more with your critique of the 2025 Tiguan. I hate the soft look of the ID4. I would like buy to 2025 Tiguan Hybrid as our second car. However the overall exterior aesthetic coupled with the gigantic screen is probably a non starter. VW design has taken a turn for the worse.
They ruined the Tiguan. Even though the ID4 is softer in design, it's much nicer than this. And they fixed a lot of what was wrong with the first 3 yrs of the ID4. Got rid of that awful gear shifter, updated the main screen and software, ventilated seats, Harmon Kardon stereo. Same main screen but not that big. 12.9".
the us version will actually look different than the euro spec tiguan. The tiguan we will get in the US will be offered in Europe and china under the Tayron name.
It will be a totally different car -- a re-badged Tayron.
@@krane15 yeah, and the tayron will look different from the euro spec tiguan
Volkswagen before: our interior design is restrained, austere, and purposeful.
Volkswagen today: aDD MoRe sWoOpY LiNeS, tAcKy LiGhTiNg, aNd mAkE tHe sCrEeN BiGgEr
Too bad you didn't juxtapose this R-Line version with the Elegance model. I would have liked to hear your opinion of the more subtle styling of that rendition and which design you prefer.
I agree the current generation is much better design. Viewing the two designs side by side and pointing out the lines, I can see why the new one is bad.
11:25 - completely getting rid of the quad exhaust, replacing it with the giant chrome strip across the entire rear bumper with NO exhaust outlets, AND THEN designing the exhaust placement so the muffler hangs below the bumper and is visible anyways has to be the sloppiest part of this vehicle to me. I used to like VW's growing up but its like they are trying to move away from their more classical designs and are struggling to find a groove with it. A bit like BMW right now too you might say.
Two things: 1:The All Space version is discontinued, so I'm wondering will the Tiguan still come to the US? There was talk that a car from a different market would just be the new Tiguan in the USA because it doesn't make sense to design a car just for the USA if the Allspace is gone.
2nd: The lights in those photos are looking a bit overwhelming, and not calm like you said. However, I think just going in and changing the color and lowering the intensity you'll be enjoying it much more.
The US Tiguan will be in fact a different model than the EU Tiguan.
They choose this design because they have the chinese in mind, thats their main target now. Should have used another design language for Europe and US.
Exactly my thoughts on this exterior new Tiguan design, it is disappointing. Seeing a big European car company talking a turn and start designing cars for Asia instead of Europe it is disappointing and worrying at the same time. The interior also is awkward to say the least, bad taste, no aesthetics, just screens one next to the other, big slabs of black glossy plastic...reminds me of hyundai interior, for the dashboard at least, couldnt believe it when i first saw it...crazy colors in the interior...looks like a nightmare. Current owner of a Tiguan 2022.
The US Tiguan is in fact not simply a longer wheel base EU Tiguan. It will have at least another front. I don’t know where you got your information. However, the interior and basic HMI will be same/similar.
Nice rear, front na...interior yes. These vehicles are built to last 5 or 6 years then become expensive to maintain. 😢
I just bought a 2024 VW Tiguan a few weeks ago.I really like the car,Lots of room inside.I had a 2023 Mazda Cx-30 that had a bad battery drain and had to trade it in.I am afraid for these newer cars with all these computer chips in them draining the battery.(on all the time}I am glad I bought the 2024 Tiguan because who knows what the first few years of the Newest 2025 will be like?At least the 2024 Hopefully have all the bugs out of it where as the 2025,who knows?
ALL NEW design look soooo cheap omg i was afraid years ago about this type of change and now is real :(
I don't know what's more impressive. VW making their cars look Chinese as of late, or them making them look like a cheap copy of themselves.
Kia soul vibes from the front, forester vibes from the side profile and rear end.
Big disappointment, and evidence of why VW sacked their head of design. A cliche on wheels.
First they ruined the Golf now the Tiguan, I'm done with VW.
We live in a world where BMW's begin to look like Škodas, French cars begin to look conventional, and now VW's looking like some DongFeng or Geely SUV things. I can't but laugh.
Not to mention they're getting rid of the beautiful Arteon and replacing it with an ugly melted cheese Jetta next year.
Not to forget Mercedes also downgrading their design to extraordinary simplicity to a length that’s close to a Tesla, Lamborghini is overdoing too much as well,Maserati going bland, there’s just more actually
Honestly, I think the interior looks really good, I like it, but I agree with you on the exterior, it's too round ish.
The problem for me with almost all of these new gen cars, from all manufacturers is the amount of unnecessary tech. Unlike the traditional vehicles. I can only imagine the warranty needed to keep up with repairs, god forbid you have any. but anything related to digital infotainment issues will be nightmare to maintain if you happen to buy one and get the short end of the stick. nobody needs these ginormous screens in your face. the flashing lights all of the interior, the digital display, etc.. all unnecessary IMO.
The new Tiguan looks like a fish. Nope not on my list. But let them release it, might actually decrease the price of the MK2.
The car reviewers are in love with large screens.
Also, VW is trying to stay relevant in China. The Chinese market likes screens with wheels attached.
It has something to do with their traffic flow in their large cities where the traffic doesn’t flow. At least that’s my understanding.
But agree. I hate huge screens in my car.
In addition, I’m not sold on the night club dash and door inserts.
Here's my take: I like the proportions of the short-wheelbased new one more than the previous AllSpace. I always thought there was too much overhang to the rear of the previous one.
The new one has a sort of X3 stance from the sideview.
I prefer the front fascia of the older model though. Agree with everything you said about the bumper. I think the new one looks as ugly in the front as a Toyota Raize if you squint. I hate that car.
that thing is fire!!🤯I like they're taking more of a Euro design look like Audis... the current one looks more like a Chrysler imo..
Are they trying to further separate the styling from Audi?
Car screen sizes are reaching the same limitations as cell phones. Can you make them bigger yes, but they will be practical, no. If it is not vertical, a 10-12in is the sweet spot. I would have preferred a KIA style integration.
This is the sign of vw is in trouble
Blows my mid that the Tiguan is a big car for Europe and South America, but for the US is a Compact SUV
Hey, you are comparing two different trims.
One is Tiguan R and the other is Tiguan R-line.
There's no Tiguan R for the new generation yet, and the R is sportier than R-line, which is like S-line for Audi.
Great review!
VW needs to get back to its design roots. Bauhaus, clean lines, slightly conservative, and ultimately very timeless. VWs have always aged well but I fear this upcoming generation is going to be forgettable.
Who is the volkswagen design lead! Recent design starting from id.4 lacks sharpness. Not looks like an suv. Previous version was looking much better. Should have added interior change on previous model
good analysis 👍
Skoda recent exterior design >>>> any VW these days
I actually like it because I feel like their going back to the skinny top grill that be did for the mk6 golf and other cars of that time period. But then big grills were the trend so they made their grill taller and then it just looked like everything else. Now their going back and it really stands out in terms of design language, the new golf is another great axmple. The old one the front bumper looks like it’s falling off, the new one his a nice straight bumper that looks solid.
I agree it’s the right move but I still like the older tiguan
"We don't get this one in the US, not sure why"
It's because no one in the states wants a VW, unless you want to be mocked relentlessly
Where are you from?
I disagree with you entirely. It's a huge improvement
Looks more in line with last gen crv and current tuscon
Great Analysis Man,... you reflected my thoughts,.. VW is losing its Identity,... especially the disconnected interior and Tesla's wanna-be aspiration,..
It all started with Tesla, producing such boring interiors and calling them modern.
The current design is more menacing than the new facelift, which resembles the Honda-HRV,...
I wish we got the Tiguan R here but I think they were afraid of stealing sales from Audi...
I see some HAVAL H6 resemblance 🙆🏽♂️
You compare an R to an R-line (the new). But agree!
Current one is better looking
They had the perfect compact SUV with the old Tiguan. Especially with the R-style package. How did they go backwards?! Terrible
it looks like a citroen c5 aircross which is a car i saw live and was...nope the dacia duster at leat looks rugged