Thank you for your very informative and easy to follow video. I have a very old Maytag washer that was making banging noises. I ordered the 4 springs from Amazon. They came today and I installed them. I ran a load and it was quiet as can be! The hard part was lifting the rods to attach the springs. Not bad for a 65 yr old woman.
I sure hope this is my problem, I just replaced all the suspension springs and tabs in corners, and after doing that and recalibration, it still was shaking violently all over. Now, my top ring is ripped like the one in video though, and was wondering if that could be my problem. Mine actually doesn't look as bad as this one in video, so I don't think that's it. Guess I'm more so really hoping it's not,because the cheapest tub ring replacement I found so far is damg near 80 bucks. And ya,I only paid like 200 for this ol washer, and ide rather buy a better bigger washer than spend 80$ on this horrible washer. I hate this washer, I've had so many issues with it, and it takes forever to go through even the shortest washer cycle.
Thanks a million ! My washer runs smoother than it ever did even when it was new ! Was about to buy a new washer and decided to look on You Tube to see if anyone had the same problem . The washer is almost totally motionless now when it goes into the spin cycle ! Thank again for the video !
OMG!!! You saved me at least $300. the Sears repair guy wanted $100 just to come out and look at it not including the I'm sure EXPENSIVE replacement parts to fix it and his labor. I have an Admiral washing machine a generic Maytag, which should be shut down for selling products that are bound to break, that was banging and crashing around. First I tried replacing the rod and shocks. No good. Still banged around looked up the Admiral website and found a video about the springs. The said if the springs were broke the washer would be off balance... Now when I started the repair I didn't take any springs off the machine and there were no broken springs anywhere. You are a great American, who I respect and say thank you so very much for confirming my theory. That Maytag guy should be tar and feathered and ran out of America. TY, TY, TY
DUDE!!!!! YOU FIXED MY WASHER!!!! I can't thank you enough for post this video! (I have the exact same model Roper by the way). It was just as you described. I've run two loads in it now, one comforter and a large load just to push the limits. The washer is as quiet as a church mouse now. Thank you again!
Roper washer here, added springs didnt work for me, still banging. So then I jammed pillows and blankets around the tub pretty tight. That worked 👍 I have never hated an appliance like I hate this washer. From day 1 it ripped my clothes from agitating while it fills with no water in it, then the lid lock broke, had it fixed under warranty, two weeks later lock broke again and magically the warranty expired. So then I hooked a light switch into the lock circuitry so when its done washing, you have to cancel the cycle switch it to rinse and spin, start it then flip the light switch so it thinks lid is locked. Then it started this wild banging nonsense out of nowhere like a horse kicking inside there. Opened it up and nothings broke.. not like other washers I've seen the springs break, this doesn't even have springs. Its only 4yrs old. What a POS, I'll never by anything made by roper ever again. Hopefully I'll get another washer soon, because then I'm gonna tie this roper up behind my jeep and drag it around town
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! I searched videos one more time this morning before ordering balancing bars and saw this video. I opened up the washer and couldn’t believe it. These springs are missing. Ordered on Amazon and they will be here tomorrow. Now I need a link to the correct replacement for the ring on top that is all chewed up.
Thank you. I’m no handy man but fixed the severe jumping and bouncing problem, which was getting worse. I only had 3 springs since purchase and now improvising for the fourth spring the washer is so smooth.
Semper fidelis, thanks I'm like many others here, thought our washer was going to fly part, it started when my brother was washing overalls, I just thought he had it out of balance, it was worse than that, that thing was bucking like a mule, I've been trying for 2 weeks to get springs close at the hardware store, I knew there should be something there but didn't know or see the correct springs I just gerry rigged it with little improvement. I'll order a pair of these, the Repair clinic has saved me 100s of $ so I'll stick with them again. Thanks!
James E. Tramel I had to laugh when you said your washer was bucking like a mule. Mine does that. It almost walked out the door one day. Definitely gonna try the springs.
Thank you, thank you, thank you!! Actually our rod fell off and was able to fix it and just ordered springs to put on. You're the best for saving us a lot of money!!!!!!
Thank you for this! My washer had ZERO springs on it so I tried the zip tie trick for the moment. Will order the parts or go to Lowe’s and pick them up.
Thank you so much for your Fix IT YOURSELF video. My son was able to follow your easy instructional video and I now have a new washing machine, the parts cost under $10.00. The manufacture had NEVER installed the springs to secure the tub, just like you pointed out in your video.
Thanks. I have the same model And it has been banging for years! Opened it up as you mentioned and no springs! Thanks for the upload and your time! 🍻 🇺🇸
Thank you so much for sharing this!!! We just completed this on my washer. I was afraid I was going to have to buy a new washer. You saved me a lot of money!!!!!!
Thank you for posting this. I was able to order the springs & it only took me 20 minutes to install them and they fixed my washer balance problem. Easy and quick repair!😊
We figured out how to control the off-load spin-cycle issue much easier: Bought a 2800 lbs 20 foot tow cable from Harbor Freight for $12.00 and wrapped it tightly around BOTH washer and dryer (they are right next to each other). This was our solution: No banging or moving around. Very silent. Couldn't be more happy. In the last 18 months since we did this, only once did it require us to re-position the towels.
Thanks for the information. I was looking at a washer for an old lady and didn’t see anything wrong with the rods. Now I know. It’s missing the springs. I’ll fix it for her next week
Thank you!! My washer has been doing this for years, mostly with bulky items, sheets or a quilt. I hate this washer! But going to check mine for springs and add them if it has none.
That spring isn't available at Home Depot (or Lowes). They must be special ordered for damn awful prices. The gouging SOBs at the factory want your money.
Just went through the same thing, BUT, when you see the broken plastic, you need the 4 rods, Period. I just replace our 4 rods and No bang at all now. I left top off, got the 4 springs coming tomorrow, I will put those on even though ours did not have any. We ran a cycle without them as it came that way, and with just new rods fixed the problem, but still going to put springs on. I did not see anything wrong with old rods, but assume they were weak, it would bounce up and down before, with new rods much stronger. So new rods will fix it even though you don't see anything wrong.
The rods are dampening rods, that's why there are no springs. Adding the springs just makes it last longer, between rod replacements, with so many plastic parts, it only makes sense to do what you can to make things last longer, cheaply.
Matt Ryan I fixed mine. This vid is in Spanish, but the guy demonstrates very well. I haven’t had any problems since. The springs didn’t work for me. Basically a free fix. th-cam.com/video/DVxw6Hrd6H8/w-d-xo.html
Thankyou!! Mine is doing this exact thing. Mine had not 1 spring anywhere. Rather than buying springs I tried 4 heavy duty zip ties i already had in the shop. Well see how long they last all it needs is some type of resistance/cushion side to side front to back on spin cycle.
Thanks for the video. Mine has been banging against the side for years (usually blamed the wife for unbalancing it with towels) and then yesterday the tub fell to one side. Using your video, I found that one of the suspension rods had actually came unhooked, so I put it back. I also found that I only had two springs on one side, so I have ordered two more.
Out of balance SOLVED. I am living in a country without access to the springs I supposedly need. I tried the zip ties, they did not work, they just bent my rods (I just straitened them back) . My machine would bang around even with nothing in it. When slowly rotating it by hand I could see the wash drum was off balance to one side. it was warped to one side from banging around too much, my machine is on the roof and I don't hear it. Since it was warped the water ring (centrifuge)at the top of the drum wouldn't work as intended and all of the water would go to one side and cause it to be out of balance. By the way this is 15 kg capacity washer with the tall agitator, not a high efficiency washer with the flat agitator. Here is what I did to fix it. >Slowly rotate the drum and with a permanent marker and mark a line on the water ring where it is most extreme toward the cabinet. >Remove the agitator >With a ruler measure from the wall (line side) of the drum to the center post >Measure the opposite side >Example: line side 260mm opposite side 254mm >The center cone of the drum is off by 3mm >You need to move the center cone toward the line 3mm >I used a 20 ton hydraulic jack without the handle that just barely fit between the wall and the cone opposite the line and pumped it 3 times or so. (Keep in mind some jacks don't work on the side, at first try, with the handle mechanism facing up it didn't work, I made the handle side of the jack face down and it worked : ) A car/truck bottle jack could work too! On my first try I went too far the other way, just rotate it around if needed and do it again with less pumps. you will get it eventually. I ran the machine on the spin cycle, it works as intended, It has a little jiggle and you could spend more time perfecting but that is up to you. One last thing, there were rubber washers on each rod that were 2 inches above the plastic tub on mine, just slide them down to the tub/spring. You may or may not have these. I hope this helps somebody. #WWG1WGAWORLDWIDE
Thank you!! I'm going to be laid off in a week from now and I was looking at buying a new washing machine cuz mine quit working right. I watched your video and fix it myself ! Thank you thank you thank you
timbonjovi Not sure if you still have this problem. The springs didn’t work for me. I fixed mine. This vid is in Spanish, but the guy demonstrates very well. I haven’t had any problems since. Basically a free fix. th-cam.com/video/DVxw6Hrd6H8/w-d-xo.html
Thank you for so much for! I’m going to order the parts off of Amazon ASAP and try to do it myself. I’m supposed to have a repair guy come out here Friday and try to fix it but that’s more money I have to pay so this way will save me money thanks a lot for Sharing thanks again🎉
Excellent video ! My Whirpool washer bought in 2020 is banging badly. I checked, and there are no springs. I am going to the appliance parts store today. If they don't have it, I will check the automotive parts store, get some, and modify them. If I order them from Amazon, It will take months with this Covid19 problem. I live in Trinidad, West Indies.
Ok, lets see if this will help your 'engineer's mind'. Here is what I found on mine. Three of my rods were pristine. The one that hangs under the bleach funnel was pretty corroded. The little black dome that rides on the top of the spring mechanism and seats in the pocket of the drum carrier SHOULD slide freely up and down the rod, though with some resistance. Because of the corrosion, the black 'slider' will lock up when an unbalanced situation causes the spring to collapse and then propel upward, moving the 'slider' into the corrosion where it gets jammed. Because the spring is now no longer compressed by the tub, the tub is resting cockeyed on the higher 'slider' which is stuck, the tub remains unbalanced and goes nuts when the spin cycle takes off. I am like you, there is no other obvious reason the spring setup wouldn't work. (Also, I can see ZERO justification for the tiny little springs that they say you need two of on the right two rods. They are far too weak to be effective for anything but the mildest offset. Plus, the machines don't need them at all until they have had considerable use. I think cleaning and lubricating the rods with something like Magic Lube Teflon O-ring lubricant might prove to renew the effectiveness of those old rods. Just my two cents. ALSO, you may want to move that corroded rod around to another location and give one of the cleaner rods a shot at the bleach for the next interval of your machine usage.
Jack R, Thanks so much for your "engineer's mind"!!!! THANKS!!!! I was going crazy trying to figure out why the manufacturer would "cheap" out on their product by "not" putting in springs, or by putting in just 2? I really appreciate PatriotMarine for making this video, thank you! But when the MFG didn't call for springs, that just threw up alarm bells for me. Since it was such an easy and inexpensive fix with the 4 springs, I figured it wouldn't hurt. I got only one wash in before the off balance problem was back, so I am going to take off 2 of the 4 springs and try that fix. Are the springs on the right side? or diagonal? left side, front or back? Since I can't find the springs on a parts schematic, I was wondering what 2 rods I should try this on, does anyone have a suggestion? I was really hoping that this fix was a "trick' that someone did and posted to save other someones a lot of money but I don't believe it's working for me, so glad it has helped so many others. Jack R if you have information on how to replace and/or lubricate the rods I would be so grateful, its so much easier to "watch" how to repair, then it is to "read instructions" I will keep posted if the 2 springs works for me, Again, thanks so much Jack R and PatriotMarine "
The two springs did not work, I really didn't think they would as they are not very strong springs, like someone else said, they are like the springs in a ball point pen. So I am back to the beginning. The manufacturer did not put any springs on my model, so they are not needed. After a lot of research the problem lies with the springs on the rods themselves, they do lose their "shock" absorbing effect after years of wear. I will replace the rods, other videos show how and it is a DIY project. I am hoping that this is the fix as I love this "old" washer, it was built tough and doesn't have all of those unneeded bells and whistles, just good old school mechanics, no computers to get in the way, that you can't diagnose and are meant to fail after the year warranty is up anyhow. SO good luck to anyone that has this model, keep it, keep up maintenance and it will outlast any of the newer expensive models out there. Thanks to everyone that posted!
Update, see picture of foams sticked with glue on all sides. Now the washer is nice and quiet. I just spent $10 on the springs that did NOT help at all. Try plastic foam, or something hard but flexible. Good luck
Thanks for the video. As I was replacing the four suspending rods I noticed the holes you point out but no springs were present so I assumed there weren’t supposed to be any. Of course the washer is still going nuts so when I get home I’m going to give some zip ties and try and then potentially order actual springs.
Your video us very helpful. I believe I have the same problem of the basket moving too freely. Also I need to replace the agitator. It had to be deliberately designed to fail. It is made of pvc and is fastened in only one point.
Right around 4:00+ I'm reminded of the time I was ordering a seafood platter and asked for frog legs. The young bimbo asked "how many?". I replied I want 2 frog legs. She replied, we only sell them in pairs. :) I replied, so..... give me a pair of frog legs. She replied, SOOOO.... do you want 2 pairs of frog legs, or just 2 frog legs. I said TWO FROG LEGS. READ MY LIPS. TWO FROG LEGS. Anyway, 30 minutes later my order came and guess how many frog legs it had!! *1* single frog LEG. So, when I see the guy in this video with 2 packs of springs each with 2 springs, that's 4 total springs. Maybe the parts center had the same worker who worked in the seafood restaurant.
I just did this and washer ran like brand new but yesterday and today it run like I never done it!!! It have new springs and subspensions he'll new everything! Now the basket sit unevenly uneven????
Replaced suspension rods and still didn't solve the problem. Then I replaced Washer Drive Block which solved the problem. Definitely get yourself the spanner wrench. It's worth it! I tried to remove it first without the spanner wrench and it didn't work. Once I got the spanner wrench, it was super easy. Replacing the Washer Drive Block solved the possesed washer machine problem.
How did you determine that the drive block was causing the banging problem? Where did you get the spanner wrench from? Thanks in advance for any and all info/help!
Thanks for this video. My Whirlpool washer is also "banging" around during spin cycle. I've already replaced the suspension rods and that fixed the problem for ONLY the 1st few loads. My washer also doesn't come with these centering springs. These centering springs look so flimsy and doesn't have enough strength to hold the drum from "banging" around. Can someone please confirm that these centering springs will do the trick?
They don’t do the trick, these light weight springs are useless, there are some stiffer springs for $24 on Amazon though that look more like what is needed.
Dang i noticed the holes in the top just today when trying to figure out why it has been wobbling. I immediately knew that there was supposed to be springs there. This confirms it. I am betting that the drive block is shot on mine however from it running off balance for so long. Company should be sued for not putting these springs on.
The springs wp 6309 look alot stiffer then the ones you show. I removed ring there are not any holes under the ring only on the ring .The hooks are bent in drastically and are very stiff impossible to hook in holes. This washer is 3 years old whirlpool. Is it possible they sent the wrong springs.Label reads washing machine suspension tub springs Ok editing up date they sent the right springs she runs like new .Definitely obvious the lighter springs finally did the job.Thank you
Thanks for video! Replaced the rods, the first 3 loads were perfect, then it went back to banging🤦♀️. Help!! Anybody have any suggestions? I have an older whirlpool.
If rods 'fixed it', then look for one of them failing do to improperly sitting (the plastic cup) OR something else like bearing on motor failing due to unbalanced movements
usually if it's banging that bad it's gonna be the suspension rods.... Those little spring do help a bit but they are an extra a washer can have them or not just makes it a little quitter but the rods the heavy work... If you are going trouble of lifting the rods might as well replace them to be 100% fix issue cheap set rods go for like 30$...
Have exactly the same model and opened the washing machine probably 5 times and the hook support always gets displace, or plastic gets tangled with the back cover, the washing machune does not have any springs , got fed up fixing it , yout info is very helpful. Just want to find out if the springs really worked.
I just installed my springs. I found that if you use vice grips to hold the rod it gives you something better to lift the rod up. I also marked the rod and the holder, where it was, with a marker to get it back exactly where it was originally. I'm trying my first load now. Springs didn't work for me!!!!!
I put the four springs and it still bangs around. Not as much and it quiets down just a little faster but the problem still is there. Good video though. Thank You
The early whirlpools right after they came out with the suspension system didn't come with the springs nor the rubber straps that the later model commercial washers did.
Just ordered a set of 4 myself ($6.64 shipped on Amazon right now since there is a rebate) as my Roper just did this today. I have no idea how it's possible this thing was working without them given I can't find evidence there were original springs installed. Must be a bigger issue, maybe with the hub is lose or bad bearing? But as fixes go this will be easier than tearing the entire thing apart and cheaper than buying a new one. Eventually I will 'spring' for a new set, likely a front load stacked unit so I can free up some room in the garage for a solar battery rack.
Thank you for the information. However, after installing the 4 springs, though the banging is not as long, it is still banging after the end of each cycle.
I'm ordering rods for mine, banged around when the load shift when new, machine about 4 yrs old, bangs all the time, unusable, but now I'm not sure the rods will resolve it, I did take each one out, and for the life of me I don't see anything physically wrong,my machine doesn't have any other springs, only those suspension rods, I did notice that when filled with clothes and in wash cycle, I stopped it and lifted the basket by grabbing with both hands and let go and the basket seems to be hitting the bottom, so maybe the springs are allowing sag, I'll update when I get the parts
Just a question here I have the same machine it was given to me and it's old and used it for quite a while and then it started doing off balance making a lot of racket so I replaced the suspension rods and then I just seen your video about springs and you said a lot of them don't even come with springs well this one looks like it never came with springs why all of a sudden now is it not performing right because if it never had springs, why now does it need them? I guess that's my question. I guess I like to know the why when things happen. But I'm really really glad that I caught your video because I'm sure it's going to be the problem solver.
adding the springs STRANGELY worked for a few washes (DOESN'T make sense) but the other video, replacing the RODS is what fixed it STILL since video date...
Back again they sent springs for lower end will look at lowest to see if I can find the lighter ones waste of time and possibly money newer model I guess to good to be true will keep you updated. Can you give me the spring number thank you
Update: as I mentioned before the springs did nothing, and there is nothing wrong with the rods. I just put 4 pieces of foam about 6-8 inches on each side of the walls but inside, between the plastic and the metal wall. That did it. I tried with a Large wash and it still vibrates but the plastic did never hit the metal walls again. Save your money, try this first, do not buy the springs. ====== Ordered the springs but they are a joke, too weak. Won't work at all. What I did was put a couple of packing foam from a package box I had on the sides of the fridge, very tight and when the banging starts it lasts 1 or 2 seconds only. Thank goodness my washer is in a separate place surrounded by walls. If you have the Washer and Drier together one guy in this section did tie both together with a long cable/rope and that fixed the problem as well. Good luck with this badly designed Washing machine
I'm giving yout advice a shot cus this is ridiculous to have to buy,no matter how cheap, stupid springs for a washer that should of had them installed by manufacturer from the get go. I hope the foam works,I've got a bunch if foam from amazon packaging left over from Christmas, so I've got my fingers crossed this stops my ol washer from skipping through my kitchen.
Our tub went crazy all of a sudden . We opened the washer and bingo no springs. But what I want to know is .. How come it was working fine for 3 yrs withOUT springs? So could it be the rods as well????
Thatsvso strange that they're just not there! Ive had almost the same model for a few years and it started walking about six months ago. I opened it up after watching this and they aren't there. So why did it work ok for the first couple of years and then not? So strange!
Thank you for your very informative and easy to follow video. I have a very old Maytag washer that was making banging noises. I ordered the 4 springs from Amazon. They came today and I installed them. I ran a load and it was quiet as can be! The hard part was lifting the rods to attach the springs. Not bad for a 65 yr old woman.
This woman will be trying it out to fix my banging
You rock. Or should I say she bangs!😇
Wow ... Well done beautiful 😍
I just did mine today.You are right the rods are the hardest !I am an 80 year old female
I sure hope this is my problem, I just replaced all the suspension springs and tabs in corners, and after doing that and recalibration, it still was shaking violently all over. Now, my top ring is ripped like the one in video though, and was wondering if that could be my problem. Mine actually doesn't look as bad as this one in video, so I don't think that's it. Guess I'm more so really hoping it's not,because the cheapest tub ring replacement I found so far is damg near 80 bucks. And ya,I only paid like 200 for this ol washer, and ide rather buy a better bigger washer than spend 80$ on this horrible washer. I hate this washer, I've had so many issues with it, and it takes forever to go through even the shortest washer cycle.
Thanks a million ! My washer runs smoother than it ever did even when it was new ! Was about to buy a new washer and decided to look on You Tube to see if anyone had the same problem . The washer is almost totally motionless now when it goes into the spin cycle ! Thank again for the video !
I did what you did .mine is still shaking.
OMG!!! You saved me at least $300. the Sears repair guy wanted $100 just to come out and look at it not including the I'm sure EXPENSIVE replacement parts to fix it and his labor. I have an Admiral washing machine a generic Maytag, which should be shut down for selling products that are bound to break, that was banging and crashing around. First I tried replacing the rod and shocks. No good. Still banged around looked up the Admiral website and found a video about the springs. The said if the springs were broke the washer would be off balance... Now when I started the repair I didn't take any springs off the machine and there were no broken springs anywhere. You are a great American, who I respect and say thank you so very much for confirming my theory. That Maytag guy should be tar and feathered and ran out of America. TY, TY, TY
Glad I could save you some money, one of my goals here.
DUDE!!!!! YOU FIXED MY WASHER!!!! I can't thank you enough for post this video! (I have the exact same model Roper by the way). It was just as you described. I've run two loads in it now, one comforter and a large load just to push the limits. The washer is as quiet as a church mouse now. Thank you again!
Thank you kind sir. Saved me not only $$$, but some anxiety as well. I hate not knowing or understanding what's broken. Now I do. Thanks
Roper washer here, added springs didnt work for me, still banging. So then I jammed pillows and blankets around the tub pretty tight. That worked 👍 I have never hated an appliance like I hate this washer. From day 1 it ripped my clothes from agitating while it fills with no water in it, then the lid lock broke, had it fixed under warranty, two weeks later lock broke again and magically the warranty expired. So then I hooked a light switch into the lock circuitry so when its done washing, you have to cancel the cycle switch it to rinse and spin, start it then flip the light switch so it thinks lid is locked. Then it started this wild banging nonsense out of nowhere like a horse kicking inside there. Opened it up and nothings broke.. not like other washers I've seen the springs break, this doesn't even have springs. Its only 4yrs old. What a POS, I'll never by anything made by roper ever again. Hopefully I'll get another washer soon, because then I'm gonna tie this roper up behind my jeep and drag it around town
Got a whirlpool same issues lifted the lid no springs. Just ordered them thank you for your help
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! I searched videos one more time this morning before ordering balancing bars and saw this video. I opened up the washer and couldn’t believe it. These springs are missing. Ordered on Amazon and they will be here tomorrow. Now I need a link to the correct replacement for the ring on top that is all chewed up.
Thank you. I’m no handy man but fixed the severe jumping and bouncing problem, which was getting worse. I only had 3 springs since purchase and now improvising for the fourth spring the washer is so smooth.
Semper fidelis, thanks I'm like many others here, thought our washer was going to fly part, it started when my brother was washing overalls, I just thought he had it out of balance, it was worse than that, that thing was bucking like a mule, I've been trying for 2 weeks to get springs close at the hardware store, I knew there should be something there but didn't know or see the correct springs I just gerry rigged it with little improvement. I'll order a pair of these, the Repair clinic has saved me 100s of $ so I'll stick with them again. Thanks!
James E. Tramel I had to laugh when you said your washer was bucking like a mule. Mine does that. It almost walked out the door one day. Definitely gonna try the springs.
These instructions worked PERFECTLY for me. Fixed my washing machine under $15!!! Thank you so very much.
You’re my new favorite person!! Thank you for making this video!!! 🫶🫶
Thank you, thank you, thank you!! Actually our rod fell off and was able to fix it and just ordered springs to put on. You're the best for saving us a lot of money!!!!!!
Thank you, Found out our washer only had two springs. fixed it with zipties on the missing corners
Did zip ties work okay? Thinking about trying to use them until I get the springs ordered
@@abif220 see my SOLVED post
Thank you for this! My washer had ZERO springs on it so I tried the zip tie trick for the moment. Will order the parts or go to Lowe’s and pick them up.
I tried this same problem
You are the man. Let no one tell you different. Thanks
Thank you so much for your Fix IT YOURSELF video. My son was able to follow your easy instructional video and I now have a new washing machine, the parts cost under $10.00. The manufacture had NEVER installed the springs to secure the tub, just like you pointed out in your video.
Hello can you please share the part number? Thank you !
Thanks. I have the same model
And it has been banging for years! Opened it up as you mentioned and no springs! Thanks for the upload and your time! 🍻 🇺🇸
Thank you. Even I can give this a try. You are a good thorough teacher.
Again thank you...especially location of parts and prices.
Thank you so much for sharing this!!! We just completed this on my washer. I was afraid I was going to have to buy a new washer. You saved me a lot of money!!!!!!
OMG...
Has anyone said it yet? You're the best! A lifesaver! Thank you for doing this.
Thank you for posting this. I was able to order the springs & it only took me 20 minutes to install them and they fixed my washer balance problem. Easy and quick repair!😊
Where did you get the springs
Amazon probably like he did.
Your fix worked great, thx!...About 30 minutes of EZ work...I bought 4 Springs from Lowe's, like 1 of your readers suggested: 1/2" x 2-5/16" x .062"
How is machine doing now?
We figured out how to control the off-load spin-cycle issue much easier: Bought a 2800 lbs 20 foot tow cable from Harbor Freight for $12.00 and wrapped it tightly around BOTH washer and dryer (they are right next to each other). This was our solution: No banging or moving around. Very silent. Couldn't be more happy. In the last 18 months since we did this, only once did it require us to re-position the towels.
Harbor Freight does have some cheap prices on cheap stuff.
LOL
Unless this is a joke, how did you open the dryer door?
Get it done! like the cable guy says
I like it. I have ratchet straps everywhere. For free. 😂
That was it! Four tub springs at Repair.clinic for $9. Total fix time ~20minutes (including cleaning all the gunk...). Thank you!!
Great fix Tom.
Steve Martin!!
Thanks for the information. I was looking at a washer for an old lady and didn’t see anything wrong with the rods. Now I know. It’s missing the springs. I’ll fix it for her next week
Did it work for her?
@@PatriotMarine unfortunately it didn’t. I believe the springs on the rods are weak. I purchased some. But I haven’t had a chance to install them yet.
@@dmandman9 4 new rods is what finally worked for mine.
Thank you!! My washer has been doing this for years, mostly with bulky items, sheets or a quilt. I hate this washer! But going to check mine for springs and add them if it has none.
Thank you so much! I didn’t have money to buy a new washer thanks to you it’s fixed and works great!😊
The cheaper washers don’t come with the springs Home Depot has the springs located in hardware. Spring is: 2.437x0.468x0.054
Thank you so much for putting the dimensions
That spring isn't available at Home Depot (or Lowes). They must be special ordered for damn awful prices. The gouging SOBs at the factory want your money.
Yea but did it solve the problem, I would of like to of seen a load of wash through the whole cycle
I bought the $1000 Bravos XL model and it doesn't have the springs!
Thank you. This comment is a Godsend
Just went through the same thing, BUT, when you see the broken plastic, you need the 4 rods, Period. I just replace our 4 rods and No bang at all now. I left top off, got the 4 springs coming tomorrow, I will put those on even though ours did not have any. We ran a cycle without them as it came that way, and with just new rods fixed the problem, but still going to put springs on. I did not see anything wrong with old rods, but assume they were weak, it would bounce up and down before, with new rods much stronger. So new rods will fix it even though you don't see anything wrong.
also want to know if it's still going strong..
The rods are dampening rods, that's why there are no springs. Adding the springs just makes it last longer, between rod replacements, with so many plastic parts, it only makes sense to do what you can to make things last longer, cheaply.
Yes sir, should have got the new rods and suspension in the first place, tried the cheap route and paid for it.
Exact same washer, exact same problem. Thank you!
Rivtastic07 Yup me too
Matt Ryan I fixed mine. This vid is in Spanish, but the guy demonstrates very well. I haven’t had any problems since. The springs didn’t work for me. Basically a free fix. th-cam.com/video/DVxw6Hrd6H8/w-d-xo.html
The four (4) suspension rods fixed my issue. Thanks.
But thank you for your help I tried it. I will still watch your channel
Thank you for a very clear and concise explanation of the problem and the repair.
Yes mine does the same thing....I tore it apart and couldn’t find why it was doing this but now I know....thanks a million
Thankyou!! Mine is doing this exact thing. Mine had not 1 spring anywhere. Rather than buying springs I tried 4 heavy duty zip ties i already had in the shop. Well see how long they last all it needs is some type of resistance/cushion side to side front to back on spin cycle.
I did it!! Waiting for spin cycle. Mines a whirlpool looked just like yours.
...if like mine, it only works briefly; replace the rods (also did a video) that's worked still years later.
I never fixed it by myself, but I just ordered the suspension rods hopefully it works out. Thanks!
it should, let us know.
This exact thing just happened to mine after 9 years of daily use. Thanks for the video it saved lots of headaches and money 💰
Thankyou for your service to this country and thank you for saving my washer!!!
Thanks for the video. Mine has been banging against the side for years (usually blamed the wife for unbalancing it with towels) and then yesterday the tub fell to one side. Using your video, I found that one of the suspension rods had actually came unhooked, so I put it back. I also found that I only had two springs on one side, so I have ordered two more.
The four small springs worked for a couple of washes only, then I ended up replacing the four rods & like new for a year now.
@@PatriotMarine you should probably put that info somewhere where everyone can see.
Thank you! Just had a guy tell me he’ll fix mine for $180 plus cost of parts. I guess I’m ordering from Amazon as well.
Thank you So Much!!! Everything went according to your Plan. You are Awesome......
Out of balance SOLVED.
I am living in a country without access to the springs I supposedly need. I tried the zip ties, they did not work, they just bent my rods (I just straitened them back) . My machine would bang around even with nothing in it. When slowly rotating it by hand I could see the wash drum was off balance to one side. it was warped to one side from banging around too much, my machine is on the roof and I don't hear it. Since it was warped the water ring (centrifuge)at the top of the drum wouldn't work as intended and all of the water would go to one side and cause it to be out of balance. By the way this is 15 kg capacity washer with the tall agitator, not a high efficiency washer with the flat agitator.
Here is what I did to fix it.
>Slowly rotate the drum and with a permanent marker and mark a line on the water ring where it is most extreme toward the cabinet.
>Remove the agitator
>With a ruler measure from the wall (line side) of the drum to the center post
>Measure the opposite side
>Example: line side 260mm opposite side 254mm
>The center cone of the drum is off by 3mm
>You need to move the center cone toward the line 3mm
>I used a 20 ton hydraulic jack without the handle that just barely fit between the wall and the cone opposite the line and pumped it 3 times or so. (Keep in mind some jacks don't work on the side, at first try, with the handle mechanism facing up it didn't work, I made the handle side of the jack face down and it worked : ) A car/truck bottle jack could work too!
On my first try I went too far the other way, just rotate it around if needed and do it again with less pumps. you will get it eventually. I ran the machine on the spin cycle, it works as intended, It has a little jiggle and you could spend more time perfecting but that is up to you. One last thing, there were rubber washers on each rod that were 2 inches above the plastic tub on mine, just slide them down to the tub/spring. You may or may not have these. I hope this helps somebody.
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Sounds good, I'm going to try it out, thanks man, have a great weekend brother!
Thank you!! I'm going to be laid off in a week from now and I was looking at buying a new washing machine cuz mine quit working right. I watched your video and fix it myself ! Thank you thank you thank you
timbonjovi Not sure if you still have this problem. The springs didn’t work for me. I fixed mine. This vid is in Spanish, but the guy demonstrates very well. I haven’t had any problems since. Basically a free fix. th-cam.com/video/DVxw6Hrd6H8/w-d-xo.html
Thank you for so much for! I’m going to order the parts off of Amazon ASAP and try to do it myself. I’m supposed to have a repair guy come out here Friday and try to fix it but that’s more money I have to pay so this way will save me money thanks a lot for Sharing thanks again🎉
Exactly what I needed! Thank you!
Excellent video ! My Whirpool washer bought in 2020 is banging badly. I checked, and there are no springs. I am going to the appliance parts store today. If they don't have it, I will check the automotive parts store, get some, and modify them. If I order them from Amazon, It will take months with this Covid19 problem. I live in Trinidad, West Indies.
For mine Video (2) is what finally solved it, years later STILL like new.
Just went through the same thing . Replaced those springs and the spring rods .machine is still shaking. Good luck
Ok, lets see if this will help your 'engineer's mind'. Here is what I found on mine. Three of my rods were pristine. The one that hangs under the bleach funnel was pretty corroded. The little black dome that rides on the top of the spring mechanism and seats in the pocket of the drum carrier SHOULD slide freely up and down the rod, though with some resistance. Because of the corrosion, the black 'slider' will lock up when an unbalanced situation causes the spring to collapse and then propel upward, moving the 'slider' into the corrosion where it gets jammed. Because the spring is now no longer compressed by the tub, the tub is resting cockeyed on the higher 'slider' which is stuck, the tub remains unbalanced and goes nuts when the spin cycle takes off. I am like you, there is no other obvious reason the spring setup wouldn't work. (Also, I can see ZERO justification for the tiny little springs that they say you need two of on the right two rods. They are far too weak to be effective for anything but the mildest offset. Plus, the machines don't need them at all until they have had considerable use. I think cleaning and lubricating the rods with something like Magic Lube Teflon O-ring lubricant might prove to renew the effectiveness of those old rods. Just my two cents. ALSO, you may want to move that corroded rod around to another location and give one of the cleaner rods a shot at the bleach for the next interval of your machine usage.
Jack R, Thanks so much for your "engineer's mind"!!!! THANKS!!!! I was going crazy trying to figure out why the manufacturer would "cheap" out on their product by "not" putting in springs, or by putting in just 2? I really appreciate PatriotMarine for making this video, thank you! But when the MFG didn't call for springs, that just threw up alarm bells for me. Since it was such an easy and inexpensive fix with the 4 springs, I figured it wouldn't hurt. I got only one wash in before the off balance problem was back, so I am going to take off 2 of the 4 springs and try that fix. Are the springs on the right side? or diagonal? left side, front or back? Since I can't find the springs on a parts schematic, I was wondering what 2 rods I should try this on, does anyone have a suggestion? I was really hoping that this fix was a "trick' that someone did and posted to save other someones a lot of money but I don't believe it's working for me, so glad it has helped so many others. Jack R if you have information on how to replace and/or lubricate the rods I would be so grateful, its so much easier to "watch" how to repair, then it is to "read instructions" I will keep posted if the 2 springs works for me, Again, thanks so much Jack R and PatriotMarine
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The two springs did not work, I really didn't think they would as they are not very strong springs, like someone else said, they are like the springs in a ball point pen. So I am back to the beginning. The manufacturer did not put any springs on my model, so they are not needed. After a lot of research the problem lies with the springs on the rods themselves, they do lose their "shock" absorbing effect after years of wear. I will replace the rods, other videos show how and it is a DIY project. I am hoping that this is the fix as I love this "old" washer, it was built tough and doesn't have all of those unneeded bells and whistles, just good old school mechanics, no computers to get in the way, that you can't diagnose and are meant to fail after the year warranty is up anyhow. SO good luck to anyone that has this model, keep it, keep up maintenance and it will outlast any of the newer expensive models out there. Thanks to everyone that posted!
@danagates163 any success?
Update, see picture of foams sticked with glue on all sides. Now the washer is nice and quiet. I just spent $10 on the springs that did NOT help at all. Try plastic foam, or something hard but flexible. Good luck
Springs didnt work for me either, I stuffed pillows and blankets around the tub really tight, that worked 👍
@@nelsondln This fixed it for me
Sir, you saved me hundreds of dollars. Thank you!
Wife hates me; she wants one of those $1,200 Samsung washers!😉
thanks for the video. I was just at lowes today. good to know I just need springs.
Thanks for the video. As I was replacing the four suspending rods I noticed the holes you point out but no springs were present so I assumed there weren’t supposed to be any. Of course the washer is still going nuts so when I get home I’m going to give some zip ties and try and then potentially order actual springs.
Did zip ties help it ?
@@ckeller421 no. Found out that I ordered too short of rods and reordered new oem replacements. That finally solved issue.
Thanks
It just saved me some $$$ by fixing the way u explained...
Your video us very helpful.
I believe I have the same problem of the basket moving too freely. Also I need to replace the agitator. It had to be deliberately designed to fail. It is made of pvc and is fastened in only one point.
Right around 4:00+ I'm reminded of the time I was ordering a seafood platter and asked for frog legs. The young bimbo asked "how many?". I replied I want 2 frog legs. She replied, we only sell them in pairs. :) I replied, so..... give me a pair of frog legs. She replied, SOOOO.... do you want 2 pairs of frog legs, or just 2 frog legs. I said TWO FROG LEGS. READ MY LIPS. TWO FROG LEGS. Anyway, 30 minutes later my order came and guess how many frog legs it had!! *1* single frog LEG. So, when I see the guy in this video with 2 packs of springs each with 2 springs, that's 4 total springs. Maybe the parts center had the same worker who worked in the seafood restaurant.
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I just did this and washer ran like brand new but yesterday and today it run like I never done it!!! It have new springs and subspensions he'll new everything! Now the basket sit unevenly uneven????
Thanks dude for making it so much easier for me. The repair worked perfectly.
My husband ordered these springs. Installed and they were too weak. Still didn't fix the problem. Thank you though.
Then it may be video Roper / Whirlpool Oct 8, 2019 the RODS *(it's worked since, so what it was for my washer)
THANK YOU SOOOOO MUCH!! my washer is working like new!!
Replaced suspension rods and still didn't solve the problem. Then I replaced Washer Drive Block which solved the problem. Definitely get yourself the spanner wrench. It's worth it! I tried to remove it first without the spanner wrench and it didn't work. Once I got the spanner wrench, it was super easy. Replacing the Washer Drive Block solved the possesed washer machine problem.
Wondering if the problem is the suspension rods on a Maytag, having the shaking problem.
@@7dony try replacing the rods first and if that doesn't solve the problem then replace the drive block.
I will try this. I also installed the suspension springs to no avail.
How did you determine that the drive block was causing the banging problem? Where did you get the spanner wrench from? Thanks in advance for any and all info/help!
Mine just started doing the same thing
Thank you very much.
I will look into that in a bit
Those springs didn’t come in my Roper machine either lol. Thanks so much for the video
Just called my appliance guy, he said it's self balancing by the rods 😏👀 lol going to have to take my phone and this video
Thanks for this video. My Whirlpool washer is also "banging" around during spin cycle. I've already replaced the suspension rods and that fixed the problem for ONLY the 1st few loads. My washer also doesn't come with these centering springs. These centering springs look so flimsy and doesn't have enough strength to hold the drum from "banging" around. Can someone please confirm that these centering springs will do the trick?
I was thinking the same thing
They don’t do the trick, these light weight springs are useless, there are some stiffer springs for $24 on Amazon though that look more like what is needed.
Dang i noticed the holes in the top just today when trying to figure out why it has been wobbling. I immediately knew that there was supposed to be springs there. This confirms it. I am betting that the drive block is shot on mine however from it running off balance for so long. Company should be sued for not putting these springs on.
Excellent !
Thanks so very much for posting this video - you saved us a load of money! Great job!
The springs wp 6309 look alot stiffer then the ones you show. I removed ring there are not any holes under the ring only on the ring .The hooks are bent in drastically and are very stiff impossible to hook in holes. This washer is 3 years old whirlpool. Is it possible they sent the wrong springs.Label reads washing machine suspension tub springs Ok editing up date they sent the right springs she runs like new .Definitely obvious the lighter springs finally did the job.Thank you
Yes ours didn't have them either thanks for the video
Thanks for video! Replaced the rods, the first 3 loads were perfect, then it went back to banging🤦♀️. Help!! Anybody have any suggestions? I have an older whirlpool.
If rods 'fixed it', then look for one of them failing do to improperly sitting (the plastic cup) OR something else like bearing on motor failing due to unbalanced movements
usually if it's banging that bad it's gonna be the suspension rods.... Those little spring do help a bit but they are an extra a washer can have them or not just makes it a little quitter but the rods the heavy work... If you are going trouble of lifting the rods might as well replace them to be 100% fix issue cheap set rods go for like 30$...
Have exactly the same model and opened the washing machine probably 5 times and the hook support always gets displace, or plastic gets tangled with the back cover, the washing machune does not have any springs , got fed up fixing it , yout info is very helpful. Just want to find out if the springs really worked.
I just installed my springs. I found that if you use vice grips to hold the rod it gives you something better to lift the rod up. I also marked the rod and the holder, where it was, with a marker to get it back exactly where it was originally. I'm trying my first load now. Springs didn't work for me!!!!!
Thank you, I salute you good sir. Semper Fi
Semper Fi
Thanks for this video! It was an easy solution to solve the violent shaking in our washer!
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What are your thoughts on the current situation
I put the four springs and it still bangs around. Not as much and it quiets down just a little faster but the problem still is there. Good video though. Thank You
Look for my video on 'rods' that fixed it and still working years later.
@@PatriotMarine Yes just saw it. On my way to replace them. Thanks!
The early whirlpools right after they came out with the suspension system didn't come with the springs nor the rubber straps that the later model commercial washers did.
Just ordered a set of 4 myself ($6.64 shipped on Amazon right now since there is a rebate) as my Roper just did this today. I have no idea how it's possible this thing was working without them given I can't find evidence there were original springs installed. Must be a bigger issue, maybe with the hub is lose or bad bearing? But as fixes go this will be easier than tearing the entire thing apart and cheaper than buying a new one. Eventually I will 'spring' for a new set, likely a front load stacked unit so I can free up some room in the garage for a solar battery rack.
That is really great when he is doing he's a great person God blessing
Thank you for the information. However, after installing the 4 springs, though the banging is not as long, it is still banging after the end of each cycle.
...then like mine, the rods are what's needed. Next video I did.
Great video... &my exact washer & problem! Thank you!
I'm ordering rods for mine, banged around when the load shift when new, machine about 4 yrs old, bangs all the time, unusable, but now I'm not sure the rods will resolve it, I did take each one out, and for the life of me I don't see anything physically wrong,my machine doesn't have any other springs, only those suspension rods, I did notice that when filled with clothes and in wash cycle, I stopped it and lifted the basket by grabbing with both hands and let go and the basket seems to be hitting the bottom, so maybe the springs are allowing sag, I'll update when I get the parts
Ty so much! What’s the part number
Very detailed,good job .
This is will probably work for Admiral too
Thats true, I have an Admiral with the same problem.
Just a question here I have the same machine it was given to me and it's old and used it for quite a while and then it started doing off balance making a lot of racket so I replaced the suspension rods and then I just seen your video about springs and you said a lot of them don't even come with springs well this one looks like it never came with springs why all of a sudden now is it not performing right because if it never had springs, why now does it need them? I guess that's my question. I guess I like to know the why when things happen. But I'm really really glad that I caught your video because I'm sure it's going to be the problem solver.
adding the springs STRANGELY worked for a few washes (DOESN'T make sense) but the other video, replacing the RODS is what fixed it STILL since video date...
Very helpful. Thank you.
Your video really helped thanks
Great video! Quick question: what would happen if I change the rods but the new ones are slighltly shorter than the original ones?
I would ASSuMe that it would bring the bucket up that distance, springs being the same tension.
@@PatriotMarine Thanks buddy! What do you think? Should I get the ones with the original size?
@@McTzt O always do when available.
@@PatriotMarine Thanks man! :)
Back again they sent springs for lower end will look at lowest to see if I can find the lighter ones waste of time and possibly money newer model I guess to good to be true will keep you updated. Can you give me the spring number thank you
there are a few spots online that give you part numbers if you enter Model number.
Thank you for your help now I know what is wrong with mine
Preciate cha on that 411, it was very helpful. Keep up the good work 👏 👍
So my question is since those Springs are not present why did it not Shake around when it was new
Update: as I mentioned before the springs did nothing, and there is nothing wrong with the rods.
I just put 4 pieces of foam about 6-8 inches on each side of the walls but inside, between the plastic and the metal wall. That did it.
I tried with a Large wash and it still vibrates but the plastic did never hit the metal walls again.
Save your money, try this first, do not buy the springs.
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Ordered the springs but they are a joke, too weak. Won't work at all.
What I did was put a couple of packing foam from a package box I had on the sides of the fridge, very tight and when the banging starts it lasts 1 or 2 seconds only.
Thank goodness my washer is in a separate place surrounded by walls.
If you have the Washer and Drier together one guy in this section did tie both together with a long cable/rope and that fixed the problem as well.
Good luck with this badly designed Washing machine
'if' the rods are your washers problem & you install the proper rods, it will work like new.
I'm giving yout advice a shot cus this is ridiculous to have to buy,no matter how cheap, stupid springs for a washer that should of had them installed by manufacturer from the get go. I hope the foam works,I've got a bunch if foam from amazon packaging left over from Christmas, so I've got my fingers crossed this stops my ol washer from skipping through my kitchen.
@@neciasilver5357 did the foam end up working for you? I’m having the same problem but my clothes are getting tangled around the agitator
Thank you for this video! Did you have to recalibrate the drum through the controls? I seen a video that recalibrates it.
No. But hopefully you read complete title. *and Video 2
Our tub went crazy all of a sudden . We opened the washer and bingo no springs. But what I want to know is .. How come it was working fine for 3 yrs withOUT springs? So could it be the rods as well????
with mine after replacing the rods (look at date) STILL working great. (Have that video posted after this one)
Thatsvso strange that they're just not there! Ive had almost the same model for a few years and it started walking about six months ago. I opened it up after watching this and they aren't there. So why did it work ok for the first couple of years and then not? So strange!
Strangely this worked for a short while; but the real problem was fixed by replacing the rods. *(video done also)
But why it wasn’t doing it for the past years? If there was missing those springs?