WARHAMMER 40K vs STAR WARS: Space Marines vs Clone Troopers - Men of War: Assault Squad 2
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New cinematic battle: Adeptus Astartes (Imperial Fists) vs Galactic Republic (Clone Troopers)
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This is always so 40k bias
@naoway336 you must not know much about the lore then
@@BlaineMcferrin Nah you guys just ignore any part of the 40k lore that doesn't make you correct.
@@naoway336 cry more star wars soy boy
@@BlaineMcferrin Sorry, can't hear you over all the wh fan bois crying constantly, what are they in arms about today? Nipples or something?
This isn't even fair. The worst day in the Star Wars extended universe would be like an average Tuesday in the Warhammer 40k verse.
True
The yuuzhan vong War had nearly a hundred times more casualties than the horus heresy, despite the heresy lasting longer. The imperial civil war also had more casualties.
Oh come on, Iraq and Afghanistan fought back for 20 years. I think you give too little credit to the Tatooinies. If Ukraine is anything to go by, never underestimate the power of Heretics.
@@myduckisonqauck7227 and?
@@myduckisonqauck7227 the difference here is the Vong wouldn't even carve it's way through an imperial segmentum before being pushed back, Tyranids are way deadlier opponents
The Imperium would be so, so mad if they learned about the Galactic Republic and their xenophile Senate.
A crusade against it, Would be the result, I doubt the Galactic Republic would last a few years ,much like what was shown in this video ,except over all worlds in the star wars universe , even the Jedi and the sith combined would not even slow it down.
Wait until the inquisition discovers the temple of unsanctioned psychers on Coruscant.
@TheGamesZilla492 It's a long shot, but SW has one crucial advantage over any Imperial force: mobility. Hyperspace is far faster AND more reliable than Warp travel could ever hope to be, with galaxy-crossing jumps only taking a few days at most.
In addition, several canon factions in SW have their own unique hacks, most notably the Yuuhzon Vong able to spin up bioweapons that get pretty close to Tyranid levels of lethal, and at least a handful of AIs that could simply subsume entire Titan legions if they could be convinced to act outside their very narrow purview.
@@SarajevoKyoto considering this..suspect the war would last years,same outcome,other wildcard would be if technology was captured or acquired by ether side,or ether new allies made,ie tao striking up alliance with Republic etc,most of the factions from 40k likely be hostile but there a few that may,Tao tho likely have there own motives tho,would a desperate Republic agree ??dread to think what the result of Forces of 40k acquiring hyperspace tech would be....
@@TheGamesZilla492honestly, hyperspace technology is the imperium’s dream.
Something faster AND safer than warp travel? The mechanicus would be ALL OVER that.
As for the republic, I don’t know if they would really WANT anything that the imperium has. Most imperial technology is either completely ass backwards or is a less stable, more dangerous variation of technology that the republic already kind of has. Grav guns and las weaponry might be of interest, as well as teleportation tech, but I can’t think of anything else that the republic would really want.
Execute order 66
Stormtrooper hesitates looking at youngling...
Space Marine: first time?
Clone*
The Salamanders after realizing the preschool has Aeldari children:
@@Mondays_Coffee drukhari
That only happened after disney's retcon. Before clones were pretty much Krieg 3.5 on Ultra Space Steroids.
Made my day xD
Damn...That entire clone trooper army really didn't stand a chance against that tiny imperial fist scouting party.
I mean, to be fair, that wasn't a scouting party - it was like half a company.
How could they?
Their pathetic laser weapons cannot stand against the might of the bolt gun and the finest warriors of the emperor.
That's because it was super biased.
@@chains2660 Surely. The long range, miniature plasma weapon with high rpm and high penetration capability, surely stands no chance against a ceramite plate that is dented and cratered by a lasgun with a smaller concentration shot.
*LAAT flies in*
Space Marines: '...So I started blasting!
That's fair. The LAAT was kind of a paper plane.
I can imagine those astartes remembering this battle like: they were great warriors, loyal, courageous. They were well prepared too... Some of the best mortal soldiers we had ever encountered, fighting as a team, as a brotherhood just like we do. Still they just couldn't rival the emperor's genius, as we were his creations, his angels of death. They could've been valuable allies. But their leaders had rejected the emperor's light and the imperial truths. Their misguided affection for xenos had made them tainted, and so a cleansing was needed. We had to show the wrath of the Emperor to those who betrayed their own kind. And their lives were the price they had to pay.
They would probably preserve the clones gene seed to cleanse it of xeno influence via generational retribution.
literaly interex empire
I love this, it really feels like a pre-heresy era compliance action against a newly rediscovered world.
Oh, so that's why there was a baneblade there, it's before the second founding and all the associated bullsh*t.
Star Wars: We have Space Wizards that have supernatural agility and can move things with their minds and the evil ones can even cast lighting!
Space Marine Librarians: How cute.
In legends, Luke makes the Emperor look like a bitch and Palpatine created his own Warp Storm.
I mean, there was this one sith that was able to kill an entire planet with the force
@@starhammer5247 I feel like those two are the exception rather than the rule in terms of power. Compare them to someone like The Emperor or Mephiston, or perhaps to something like the Cacodominus and you’ll have a more accurate comparison of the power difference.
@@Barterylane Jedi and Sith in Legends are downright terrifying when you look at things closer.
@@starhammer5247 I know, I’ve looked.
A well trained force user could squeeze the eyes from your skull if he/she chose to.
I’m a Star Wars fan as well as a 40k fan, and I will proudly tell a Sith to his face that I think he is ugly before I even LOCK EYES with a chaos sorcerer.
Im picturing Rogal Dorn holding the Jedi General and explaining to them the importance of building fortifications and how their "Magic" is no match for durable imperium construction before finally crushing them.
You mean bore him to death 😂
The fact that there are so few units needed to fight the Clone Army speaks absolute volumes of how outmatched they are.
Or SM are simply imbalanced.
@jakubl8271 yes they are OP compared to most other brands of space soldier.
Space marines are pretty much as good as you could possibly get in terms of sci-fi soldiers, so I’d expect nothing less.
@@Barterylane yep,One Primaris marine would kill a whole regiment and more of clones with ease whilst shrugging off fire power
@@jakubl8271I mean yeah it's unfair but also those marines have spent more time training than those clones have even been alive. that's the whole point of them. super armored, redundant organs, massive healing effects, tiny rockets for bullets. to be true to the setting they have to stomp mass produced clones.
The marine with the grav cannon must be having the time of his life.
A single dreadnought has lived longer than all the clones in this video combined.
Shit, many space marines have.
@@uncomfysapphic8415 I think Dante of the blood angels is the oldest space marine and Bjorn should be the oldest dreadnought.
Ngl ppl underestimate the power that blasters have, I mean the mass driver canon of the AT TE is literally a light speed railgun able to program its ammunition
*"We decided to leave the middle objective. The hordes of Wilhelm quickly seized on the bait, greedily lapping at it like starving mongrels. And, as predictable, he yelped the scream that only his kind can, when faced with his ensuing annihilation; in despair, weak, and pathetically betrayed by his " **_leaders_** ". Our brothers in the 3rd Company ravaged them from the opposing ridgeline, while they humorously tried to figure out the last confusing, dimwitted moments of their mortal existence before the righteous fury that would dutifully crush him with all the alacrity and decisiveness the Sons of Dorn are esteemed for. We will continue to purge the enemies of the Imperium!!"*
A single dreadnaught alone would wreck a good chunk of the clone army. Sending in a Fellblade tank is just straight flexin' and overkill.
Один венатор и нет всей орды
BS. Absolutely. A large caliber blaster shot should be capable of penetrating that kind of plate, and the dreadnaughts got on screen 6 rocket shots, and dozens of high caliber blaster shots, which are energy weaponry.
While in lore the Dreadnaught get shanked to death by orcs, blown up by primitive explosives, and are shredded by Tau weaponry.
@@Kareszkoma Orks are known to be crazy strong and with the literal power of belief on their side, of course they’d have a chance to wreck a dreadnought.
@@Kareszkomayou mean the orks that use power armour and the ability of believe that allows them to grow as tall as a building?
@@Epsilon-5 No. They use benzin mate. It works.
Remember that time in Star Wars when the blood god was bathing in the blood of the collected suffering and flesh blending of hundreds of billions of souls over thousands of systems.
Ah yes, I believe that it was right before an entire clan of Bothan spies was lost uncovering a plot by Acolytes of the Plague God to use an old arsenal of Life Eater Virus Warheads against multiple city-planets.
🤣🤣I knew SW was in trouble soon as i saw 👀 not one …not two… but three fist dreadnoughts walking on the battle field 👏👏👏.. LETS GOOO!!!! This is gonna be epic
:D
There is a video about Thrawn speaking about the Imperium, and he mentions, that it takes like a hundred stormtrooper to take down just one space marine. Yeah 40k. is on an entirely different level when it comes to land warfare.
@akuladoctor7355
The video is for AFanWithTooMuchTime's ongoing Star Wars vs Warhammer 40,000 crossover. It is surprisingly well-written and balanced. It's about a 40k Imperium military force (drop in the bucket) in the 40k galaxy's flight from peril, an entire sector evacuates because a drukhari force manipulated an entire hivefleet tendril into attacking this densely populated Imperium Xek-Tek sector (author's homebrew) in order to take slaves in the ensuing chaos. There was an emergency mass warp jump into the Circatrix Maledictum. An anomaly swallowed the evacuation fleet and deposited them outside the star wars galaxy (mostly the expanded universe with bits of Canon thrown in) I love it. It's far better than anything that has come up for Star Wars since Disney acquired it.
I didn't know storm troopers were that effective. At that ratio entire chapters would be deleted. And since Star Wars actually has respectable space tech for their warships if you go by eu and their ships aren't networked which makes them impossible to hack, it's a fair fight.
@@NonlinearNumbers I think, that their weapon is more effective, than the Guardsman lasgun when it comes to armor. But to be fair the guardsman could delete all the space marines in 40k. as well. There are 36 million guardsman for each space marine, and the space marines are not that better, than the guardsman.
I think in an all out galaxy vs galaxy war the Empire would win. Their space tech is not that bad, and their fleet is much greater than the Imperium's. And in a war between galactic foes the space is what really matters. Once one side lost it's fleet winning ground battles is only a matter of time. If nothing else, then take over all the agri worlds, and starve the rest.
@@akuladoctor7355 How would the empire handle a multi front war against nids, orks, tau, eldar, rebels, chaos, etc. ?
Take out the Imperium you gotta take it's place in holding back the tide
(Edited because spell check hates Eldar)
@@manscapedgrinch1427 Eldar, and Dark Eldar would probably win. As these can bypass space battles and go planetside right away.
Orks is dependent on the start. Is it multiple waagh, or just one giant horde, or many tiny ones. The one giant would be contained on a planet, or blown up with the first planet they land on. The many tiny may, or may not cause problems. Dependent on how the Empire react to their presence, but if ignored, then they turn into many waaagh, and that is an issue.
Chaos would also screw up the Empire as they can bypass space warfare.
Tau are kinda newbies. If they come alone, and team up with the local rebels, then they can beat the Empire. I mean the rebels managed to do it on their own so with Tau help it becomes easier. In a direct warfare the Tau would lose badly. But if they can convince the Empire with taxes, that they are not a big threat, then they can win sneaky warfare. Same, if the Empire gets too busy fighting the rest.
The Nids would eat the galaxy.
5:50 MY EYES!!!
Dreadnoughts marching into the battlefield goes hard
And they’re going slow too 😂
Even in death, i still brrt and whoosh-kaboom.
imagine a jedi trying to casually deflect bolt ammo xD
"Parry this, you fucking casual." - Imperial Fist Space Marine
If the Jedi is strong enough, he can block/Deflect the bullets with the force.
@@DemonKnight94 so i guess his force would have to be so strong he could put holes in a tank?
@@christophnewberry2429 Darth Vader casualy blocks blaster shots in Episode V from Han with his hand. And Yoda could lift an X Wing from the swamp in V aswell. In the Extended universe Starkiller could pull down a Star Destroyer from the Sky and Crush an AT-ST with the force alone.
@@DemonKnight94 star killer is not canon tho and im not even 100% sure if he even would be able to. All other of your points, you just cant compare those lasers with bolts being shot so hard they would probably take out any star wars tank.
What going ? XD 4:12
Like bro ascended by the overwhelming power he got hit by ?? XD
Daemonic possession. Or at least it was until the Daemon decided, 'not worth it'.
Thats the ffect of the gravity gun that green weapon that a space marine use, is a weapon that manipulates gravity fields
@@MISTERTR-rh9mg
Nice
Why am I always disappointed when I see people leaving good firing positions?
Cuz you don't conquer a planet by just firing in one position.
Because you have a good tactical mind.
I'm more impressed that the stats are lore accurate when pitted against each other than anything else.
I am person who grow up loving everything about star wars and yet even I know those clones are f... the moment Astartes stepped foot on the battlefield.
A perfect display of Humans not embracing the Imperium's rule during the Great Crisade, I think... Not even the Jedi would help stop the Imperium's advance.
ironically Palpatine might since the new trilogy buffed his force lightning enough he can zap entire fleets at once...that was just broken
@zacriewright5258 Compared to the power of the warp his power is still nothing.
@calexander7495 In the EU he gets some truly crazy buffs, essentially becoming a minor Force deity himself.
It's not canon but it's speculated that the primarchs, the reflection of the emperor of mankind, are themselves min or warp deities. Sidious should compare to most if not all the primarchs, maybe Magnus might be too much for him.
@@lianchinlalguite7543 He's far less than people who channel space hell. Not to mention the extreme physical disparity of a Primarch being able to rip open a tank with their bare hands. The universes really aren't comparable. Warp users spend more of their energy trying to restrain the power flowing through them because the Warp will tear a hole in reality that factures time and spills literal demons in unending hordes.
At first i was like, "A Jedi would beat an Astartes....but then i realised, no no, those guys regularly stomp pyskers. And lightsabers cant deflect real ammo, let alone a bolter round.
Space Marines aren't cursing at the heretics enough.
I see they still haven't fixed that bug yet.
This was cool. Though the ai for the clones seemed gimped. Like why were all the vehicles stuck in a clump when the Fists were spread out?
It’s a strategy, they all could fire their main weapon but sinse they can’t hide much, they use each other as protection to have the damage dispatched
@@orctrihar dont overthink it, its just a bad ai
This doesn't look like the Imperial Fists at all, they should have immediately started building a planetary fortress and fired from there😂😂😂
Marine: Your Emperor is false and your armor weak.
To be fair no non psyker or named astartes could mess with Palpatine... The Sigilite however, would liquify him.
I wanna see Chaos vs Gungans
So what is the name of that leader? Darth Sidious? Cool...
What is his position? ....Emperor?
HOW DARE YOU
I was there the day the Fists slew The Emperor.
Вообще очень странная тактика выбрана для атакующей стороны, особенно для космодесанта. По хорошему космодесант должен был пострянно продвигаться вперёд сближаясь с противником пологаясь на крепость своей брони. К тому-же армия клонов сходу понесла большие потери в технике от огня дредноутов и не могла нанести хоть сколько значительные потери космодесанту. До подхода основных сил армии клонов лесантники уже успели бы закрепиться в окопах со стороны клонов, но вместо этого они просто стояли и перестреливались издалека
Тоже самое со стороны клонов, когда лааты которые должны десант сбрасывать просто останавливались в небе и стреляли, а лёгкие разведовательные шагоходы просто бежали под имерские дредноуты. Ии в игре хрень просто
Скорее всего просто игровая условность.
Dude ever since the recent starwars media I have just gotten tired of it. Warhammer is officially better
These comments are literally that one person you know that has to one up every insignificant thing you mention "Dude I was so hungry this morning I had 3 bowls of cereal for breakfast" "Thats crazy cause I had six and im still hungry"
The Terran Emperor spared no expense for his Angels, the Galactic Emperor spared every expense he could even while he was just Chancellor.
4:15 that clone commando was ascending for a second
Can you imagine how happy the Imperium of Man would be if they only had to fight ONE enemy instead of 6?
:D
Disney: "So when they get shot with high explosive rounds, you want the bodies to rag doll it?"
"Yea sure, just keep it family friendly."
Meanwhile Warhammer are making tomato sauce and hamburgers with the Clones.
I'd take a squad of space Marines against an entire clone army
At that distance, they would call in a couple Imperial Guard artillery companies.
SM armor is highly resistant against energy weapons. The Clone Army doesn't have a chance.
Fanboys won't agree :D
4:16 that clone commando ascended 😂
Bro i love how no space marines die by comparison lol
The comparison is ridiculous, for every Marine 100 clones die.
and 1 dreadnought tanked half the battle
A battle with this technology gap is called a massacre. The pure Bladeblade won the battle.
6:20 is an a10 warthog wetdream.
The fact that the krieg troopers are not enough to kill the clones so they send in the big guns is all you need to know.
Твоё лицо, когда в течение многих лет не можешь развалить повстанцев и пришлось сражаться с армией воюющей буквально против богов в течении тысяселетий
Seems like the clone AI isnt even shooting properly, its bombarding the open ground. All the clone units seem to be one-shotted by the space marines who probably have their damage values set too high. So battle was a foregone conclusion.
Agreed, when a single round is downing LAATs while entire battlegroups are pinging off a single dreadnought, I'm questioning the so-called "balance". Forget putting a thumb on the scales, dude stuck an elephant down
Clone Trooper armor, and most armor in Star Wars, is designed to specifically defeat energy weapons and the elements. And the effectiveness against laser weapons is minimal at best. Meanwhile KINETIC protection is non-existant. The armor is rigid and fragile when faced with concussive force. So, bolt guns.
Total casualty on the IF side is one inductee
Clone troopers are literal canon fodders even in the clone wars show lmao
Would have looked amazing as a night fight
Oh wow, glad to see there's actually a working model of the AT-XT in something, that's my favourite walker.
1:38 дредноут загорает будто на пляже и кайфует)
5:51 I almost went blind damn 😵😵😵
The Falchion Super-Heavy Special Weapon Mega Epic tank makes BOOM!
My eyes!!!!
Warhammer guns are much more powerful than the guns of the Galaxy Far Away
@@The_Dark_Sparta Depends on the gun. SW does seem to have forgotten how to make proper turrets though. so either their gunners are exposed or the guns are fixed forward.
@@Mythantor Isn't that mostly just the AT-TE and LAAT though? I also am struggling to think of guns that are fixed forward in Star Wars but maybe that's just me
Remember, Be very careful when choosing your Emperor.
Welp, that went exactly as expected
the land raiders sitting back and not pushing deep into enemy territory felt so un space marine like. but that fellblade more than made up for it!
The Falchion blinding the camera when it fired it's dual volcano cannons is hilarious
this is the intergalactic crossover i would love to see.
Imperial fists throughly confused as to why the enemy does not have 40ft high first level walls
If you see four space marine dreadnoughts coming your way it is definitely time to leave.
Man, Throw Khan in there and he wipes the whole army alone.
I dunno why but I got really invested in that one random Plasma Devestator.
To be fair, those AT-TE's shouldn't be that close. When facing an overwhelming force that can cut through armor like that, they would hold farther back, as those mass drivers on top can reach out to extreme ranges. Kinda like Tau rail guns
Personally, I like the Warhammer universe, but if you ask me which universe I would rather live in, Star Wars or Warhammer, I would proudly answer Star Wars.
Well obviously since it is a lot safer as well!
4:12 stormtrooper trying to ascend to only to be disappointed at the end. 😂
I was waiting for an exploding clone and I was not disappointed.
4:16 clone trooper gets force choked out of nowhere
The Falchion's gun is like a flashbang.
I actually think the clone trooper would do ok-ish considering their weaponry is plasma based which tends to tear through ceramite
The main problem here is clone troopers clone armies aren't equipped to deal with more than one demigod at a time. And these ones are wearing tanks.
In the warhammer cinematics, space marines tend to just die in 1 hit.
Against who? Necrons? They are the strongest faction in 40k, absolutely OP race. Their weapons ignore all types of armor.
I am looking forward to this
I mean of course the clones would just flat out lose against people twice their size. I wanna see the clone army go against some guardsmen.
A lot of people forget that the ATTE shoots a plasma coated projectile... with a rail gun.
And the LAAT Gunship and ATTE shoots the equal to a full lightening bolt out of each ball turret. Clones also use Plasma as a standard, which in most instances are considered light-anti vehicle to Warhammer.
Clone Troopers have the advantage of pure child soldiers over the Astartes. However, the Astartes also have the advantage of way many more things in intensity of training, tougher, faster, and overall on an individual basis, quality.
You forget the armor is different the clones are in plastiod which isnt bullet proof or bolter proof. Second i think duresteel is the most comon armor. But all of those old walkers have exposed gunners and glass cockpits
I love star wars, but I don't even think they can go up against guardsmen too
I think, that in terms of efficiency that is their level. What makes the guardsmen win is the sheer numbers they can throw at the enemy.
@@akuladoctor7355 for the God emperor
I think if it was equal army numbers they might stand a chance as long as there is no baneblades.
@@andrewvalentine6977 If there are Baneblades, then it is only fair for the Empire to have it's own vehicles, and i don't think in numbers, but for same resource cost. Though i am not sure which one would be the best, because the AT-AT is partly a troop transport, and the Baneblade is all about being a tank.
@snakeeyes6892 think the baneblade stomps any vehicle in the star wars universe. Just a guess but I think about 20 AT-ATs or equivalent is equal to 1 baneblade which was why I said a fight could equal as long as the numbers are similar and there aren't any baneblades.
40k is overpowered the clone troopers have no chance
4:10 The clone on the left got possessed.
lol literally 99 clones gone for 1 space marine
Ah yeh the classic 3 dreadnoughts
That one clone tropper on the left at 4:13 briefly ascended
You didn't use the mass destructional orbit guns that Republic had.. Next I want to see Warhammer 40K VS Gears of War.
Star Wars armies best advantage: sound design
Wh40k best one: everything else
Ah yes , cloned humans against super humans , a fair fight , if the clones where as zealous as kreig guardsman they may of stood more of a chance
Was half expecting to hear a massive stomp and see a titan slowly appear. Would be too unbalanced, need to let the marines have some fun.
If you're a mostly mechanized army, and you see Iron Hands coming your way, you already lost.
I'm sorry Brother, but those are clearly Imperial Fists. It's clear you're a Heretic spy and must now be shown the Emperor's Mercy.
The clones as a Imperial Gaurd legion would be cool. Elite for gaurd lol
Their weapons tickle Brother!
Вот так выглядит битва во время объединение бывшие колонии человечества)
This is ridiculous, 3 dreadnoughts and 1 titan would destroy EVERYTHING!
the bias in this video is strong it is xD
Lol
For as rare as Space Marine candidates are, I'm pretty sure there's still more Space Marines than there ever were Clone Troopers.
1,000,000 Space Marines and 3,000,000 - 6,000,000 Clones
I think you need at least 20-30 clones to kill 1 space marines, 3-6mlm isn't enough, lol
@@IronGamingChannel I'm not even sure the regular weaponry most Clones carry can even damage Space Marine armor tbh
This is the slop i’m looking for
And the imperil fist are great at defending and attacking
Well... That explains why the clone troops needed the Jedi to lead them to battle.
I would love to see a tyranid vs Zerg fight