i was waiting for the Cold Cuts one so bad, it is so funny cause it makes it look like a videogame cutaway scene but also like a Kelly Rowland music video transition idk how to even describe it but it makes me laugh everytime
I actually really like the edit in "Do not resuscitate", its just so sudden and intense and it works with revealing Janice's desires to the audience. Also i just love weird, out-there, creative decisions. Most of the edits here are just kinda bad, but dont really affect my enjoyment at all
David Chase, the creator of the show, said he personally edited every single episode of the Sopranos and never let anyone else edit anything. It bums me out that one of my favorite shows of all time has this many glaring mistakes, I like to think of them not as mistakes but as deliberate choices by Chase to incorporate a surrealist feel in some scenes, but that's probably wishful thinking. Great video!
Chase is a liar. He didn't. If u watch any interviews with him, especially the...maybe bad maybe ok imperioli shirripa podcast interview with chase, he admits over and over again that he doesn't remember this or that. No wonder many saints had so many problems
People give Chase too much credit sometimes, they forget the awesome directors, writers and actors who gave it their all and they write it off as everything being Chase's deliberate choices. Yeah, he had the last word but it's more like he just recognized what worked. Not that he was personally responsible for every single thing the show did right.
That one clip of Carmella telling the teacher she's going back to her husband was extremely weird, I didn't understand why we needed that choppy slow down...
Cool breakdown. And yes, the Carmella scene had me scratching my head. For a split second I thought the cable was out for one of those weekly tests with the alarm going off.
Nice vid. About the Luxury Lounge scene, the point of showing Tony in that weird sped-up shot after he drops the anchor, is that it's reminding him of dumping Big Pussy's body the same exact way. The footage is sped up to show that he feels uneasy and anxious.
It’s funny that regular people don’t even notice or care about these issues but editors think they’re so severe that everyone must be laughing about them all.
You notice a lot of funny stuff with older Star treks too because they were never expecting HD. So stuff that was never meant to be visible is visible and it looks pretty funny
Big doubts Tony would risk having that conversation on the phone when he's always paranoid about wiretaps, especially considering what they'd be talking about. He could go over to her house and the front door is locked and he yells through the door or something.
I really loved this video, what a joy, I knew you were coming to the slow-mo Carmella clip. It's such a cringe, unworthy of such a great show. Another silly one I like-not an edit-is where Eugene is pleading with his wife in the bedroom and appears to be simultaneously standing over her and also 6 feet away, it's utterly hilarious when you notice it.
You know what. The only thing I dislike about the Cold Cuts edit is the swipe afterwards. I don’t think the slowdown is for the shot composition or anything but for her facial expression. She’s breaking it off with this guy to go back to Tony and my read in her face was regret that she did that, and the slow down was that realization. The swipe is insane though.
Her feeling regret or some other negative emotion actually makes sense when you remember that she wasn’t actually going back to Tony. At that point they hadn’t even discussed reconciling in fact later when she’s retelling the story to Rosalie and Ro asks her if she was going back to Tony…she says no and that she doesn’t know why she said it. So she definitely felt something negative which would explain the freeze frame on an apprehensive looking face!
I wouldnt say 3:30 is shot like a music video, its far more like a horror movie. Very evil dead or something. Shoutout Carmela being in the clone wars cinematic universe
Funny coincidence: on the same day you uploaded this (July 21st) I also posted a video in which I corrected the notorious Cold Cuts edit, removing the frozen frames of the slo-mo part and then doing a standard cut instead of the wipe
this video was fun because it had me seeing if i could spot the bad edit before you explained it. i didnt get any of them except the bad charmaine adr.
'Proshai, Livushka' also has the scenes where an unknown man can be seen awkwardly walking on the stairs behind Tony and the glimpse of another (not Livia) deceased character in the mirror. Those aren't necessarily bad edits but they further add to the strange feel of the episode.
4:20 probably a nd filter, pretty common for photos and "videos" to get an right esposure in the foreground and not overexpose the sky and in some times it just doesn't work as intended
One of my favorite edits is when they cut from a close-up shot of Ralph Kramden on tv to a close-up shot of Tony watching it. It was one of several references to the Honeymooners and Jackie Gleason that season.
The Carmela slo mo to freeze frame was highly effective because it was the moment she realized she’d already made her choice to go back to damnation. It felt dizzying, almost like an out of body experience, and her facial expression really sold it.
I completely understand the choppy slow down and swipe edit with Carmela. The effect is actually perfect. It displays the awkwardness and tension with him glooming at her from behind. Then the slow down and….swipe, goodbye. That chapter of her life over and on to the next chapter. It’s as almost as if we are flipping an actual page of a book. In the slow down we, the audience, are thinking oooh awwwwkward…and then…swipe! Or Flip the page! And we’re like pheeew ok that’s done, thank god. So, basically, the edit style is supposed to be conveying exactly how she is feeling right then….an awkward moment that is lasting way too long and she wants to quickly turn that page and be done with him
I think it was sort of strange when Gloria was riding in the car with Patsy, he says, “What, you don’t like me?” and she just says, “Its standard procedure” if you notice the headrests and door panels change in the car.
I had the same reaction when I first saw the cold cuts edit. I was just like wtf. And what’s worse is it was probably the 3rd or 4th rewatch for me and I had to point it out to my boyfriend who was seen the whole series at least 10 more times than I have. Goes to show we spend too much time listening and not watching lol
I'm not too sold on the whiskey glass one. He has a look on his face like he's got a mouthful, I reckon he just knocked it back. For a second i also thought it was cleae liquid on the second shot too but after a few watches it's a bit of an illusion of the light reflecting across the edge of the surface of the whiskey. Love these videos! More minutiae please. 🎉
I think Season 4 or Season 5 Tony goes to the Wild Bird Center next to Italianissimo, the signs are stuck on in edit (I guess the signs were off whilst shooting that scene) it looked terrible..
Nice work. Agree on Boca completely, the freeze frame doesn’t work. But it’s relatively small. The FX in Proshai Livushka is one of the only major errors in the entire show. I like the phone call idea to fix it. The Cold Cuts moment is so weird and out of place. It makes the Boca freeze frame look good
There was only one bad edit I ever noticed in the series. Maybe more of poor directors choice for a segue than a bad edit though. It was from season 6 episode 9, in a flashback scene where Christopher recounts how Tony helped him with the problem of Adriana being a rat. It starts with Christopher saying, "like that day I came to the house" and the flashback begins. This segue always came off as forced and amateurish, almost like a comedy skit set up.
I like the weird editing, because it makes the show feel like a direct product of its creator’s mind and hands. It makes the show feel that much more personal to David Chase, seeing effects and edit choices that a professional editor would not go with. Because they’re editing someone else’s work, and aren’t going to experiment or do anything more than the most straightforward conventional moves. An auteur director who’s actively learning the craft *would* think these choices are interesting or narratively fitting, though. Which gives them a sort of charming naivety.
Also, I’m convinced that David got hung up on editing the bit with Janice looking at the wall sign, and couldn’t get it to work so he got help from someone with editing experience. The jumpy flash effect and stylized shot of her eye is classic mid-late ‘90s editing, it was everywhere in commercials and tv so he was either emulating the trend, or a pro editor used it to salvage awkward footage and imagery that works better in your head and on the page than in reality.
What about the one where Tony emerges from the bushes in his backyard after fleeing FBI at Johnny Sachs? It slows down to a crawl, then resumes normal speed with the music.
There was another instance where there was a freeze-frame that was awkward, more so even than Juniors dancing, I thought anyway, when Carmella's coming out of a building, she had a surprise confrontation with Wiegler, (AJ's principal) she walks out after through the doors, with a look on her face, and it freeze frames here, thought it was very awkward
@@couchbumkino5423 my apologies... I must have missed it, but yeah, they definitely did a couple of weird things, they where well into the show by this though
I think the full glass/empty glass is a case of "When you're a hammer, everything starts to look like a nail". It could be a continuity error - but we are also well aware that Tony (and most if not all of the others) are substance abusers. If your niche wasn't editing, but rather storytelling/directing/writing you could just as easily be sitting here telling us this once scene both reinforces our image of Tony as a substance abuser (in this case alcohol), but also as a very subtle note of his reaction to stress and his growing inability to separate 'work' and life - perhaps he was initially going to take a small sip, but the simple act of Meadow complaining [I think that's what she's doing here anyway] is enough for Tony to say "f it" and neck the glass.
The series’ ending (the infamous cut to black) really put a lot of the weird edits in perspective for me. Every time I saw a strange or bad edit (like the Carmella scene from Cold Cuts) it took me out of the moment and reminded me that I was watching a TV show (it’s a TV progrum, a movie). The ending, which for many people watching it when it first aired made them think the cable went out, is the ultimate jarring edit of the entire series. Carmella’s scene in particular feels like the whole show was falling apart at the seams and then it swipes into another scene altogether. Clearly done on purpose despite how awkward the execution was. Then there’s all the dream sequences with all the elaborate editing, sound design and surreal imagery that could only be pulled off in a TV show or movie. Before things got too real or too immersive, there’s a weird moment to remind you that none of it is real (just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in.) David Chase really enjoyed messing with the show’s viewers
I do think the show took great pains to make things look more grimy and gross than they really were. I wouldn't be surprised if maybe they routinely had sunny days grayed out a bit. Maybe they just didn't do a good job on this particular one with Polly at the Lou Costello memorial
For me the weird edits that stood out were when the show would cut to a shot, sometimes even a wide shot, and hold on it for half a second before cutting to something else. Very strange, why even have the shot, you can't even register whats happening before it cuts away. Strange.
I actually think they reedited the scene where they add Nancy's head to the stand-in cause I feel like the first time I watched it it was incredibly creepy and later versions were a little better. I know they did that with quite a few things through the years so unless ya bought a DVD as they came out they're nearly impossible to find. Which makes some of the flaws seem strange lol Still the best TV show of all time though!
I might be mistaken, but I don't believe they intentionally created that haze edit. I've noticed the same gradient in other movies from the 90s, so perhaps they were just trying to reduce the sun glare or something.
Anchor scene needs to be kept intact because it reminds Tony of Pussy right after a conflict with Arty. It reminds the audience too. Cutting that so it's not so "jarring" is destroying essential meaning in the scene. Chase comes from a school where film has a psychological language. Technical today pedantry is what has replaced psychological and emotional truth for today's directors. Directors don't know how to tell stories with images nowadays because they think the only meaning is in the spoken script. The odd wipes are references to soap operas. They are added visual jokes. The Sopranos is in part thematically a commentary on sitcoms and soap operas...
- I like the Boca freeze. - Boca audio is just an obvious dub, they do it a couple times in the Sopranos, I've actually never noticed it - I like the do not resuscitate one, it fits with The Soprano's goofy/comedy vibe that it occasionally has - Big girls don't cry hazy sky isn't really super noticeable, I think it fits the dirty industrial vibe of Jersey - Proshai Livushka CGI wasn't bad for the time, I recall my parents being impressed - Luxury lounge isn't super noticable and doesn't take anything away when you do notice it - Home movies directional blur fits - Fake smoke didn't really stand out to me I would say the Cold Cuts one is the " worst " and definitely most jarring. I've had friends and girlfriends who normally don't pick up on anything get completely taken aback by that transition, even my Mother whose in her late 60s had a " wtf " when she saw it as we were watching the show last year. Great video, I love anyone who does in depth Sopranos vids
A huge one that I would always see watching my favorite all-time series..."Pine Barrens"... The Russian getting choked out with the lamp pole... The àctor's hànd coming back behind his head to catch thelamp!!! Favorite All-time show!!!
Canadian fire haze lol. Thats funny because where I live we've had that bullshit haze for practically a month, I was starting to forget what blue sky looked like.
For me the worst shots were when Vito shot Jackie jr, the close up of the gun going off there is no slide movement or recoil and obviously a toy. Also when Benny shot the gang members that were hired to whack someone else. Then the guns are going off, it’s so obviously oil smoke and just looks like a high school video project.
The Boca one, I would have keyed up a gradual increasing slow-mo at the apex of the dip that would fade transition into the next scene and keep the overall timing of the transition the same. Less jarring I think.
@@juanramirez-wk8ty Thanks for the feedback! Obviously this is all in good fun. I'm a professional editor and just wanted to share little things that bugged me last time I watched.
@@couchbumkino5423 Of course, only a pro would even notice any of what you point out. You are the spitting image of an old friend of mine, dopplegangers exist it seems! LOL!😜
@@couchbumkino5423 just ADR’d lines that are not part of the original dialogue. There’s the “he was my best Buddy in the can” that Angelo says to Tony about Tony B (I believe during the scene where Carmine Sr has a stroke) and another crazy one where Charmaine is talking to Arty about the girl who got SA’d by the soccer coach. She says something like “the fathers in Europe, nobody can reach him” and the tone and timbre are just wildly different from the last line. Not to mention it doesn’t sync up with her lips. It may be called something else, but there definitely are weirdly overdubbed lines everywhere in the series.
@@opaljk4835I think that’s just called a dub. Sometimes parts of the original audio are poor quality so they have them re-record them in a sound room because they can’t redo the scene weeks or months after wrapping
@@peteyprimo7173 no, these are lines added that the actors didn’t originally say on set, for whatever reason. “Looped lines” is old terminology for something they call ADR now. It can mean more than one thing. There’s a lot of choppy stuff in the sopranos that you can hear multiple fidelities in one scene, from line to line. I usually watch it once or twice a year, so the next time I’ll make notes of all these weirdo lines.
I never really watched the show until a few days ago and once I arrived at that scene with Carmela and the horrible transition I had to pause it in order to process how someone thought that was a good idea stylistically and how multiple people probably green lit that artistic choice, it genuinely makes zero sense
I getcha. Not saying the show is bad - it's probably my favorite show. I'm just offering my perspective as a professional editor. Appreciate you watching!
David Chase must have been tired from editing every scene by the time Cold Cuts was in post. He probably delegated some random intern or D-girl for some of the less important (Carmela) scenes. Fuckin D-girl 😒
i was waiting for the Cold Cuts one so bad, it is so funny cause it makes it look like a videogame cutaway scene but also like a Kelly Rowland music video transition idk how to even describe it but it makes me laugh everytime
Furio edited that shit and he was probably like "thats fakeen beautifull"
The Carmela Star Wars closing editing was a funny choice 😂
@@nero48 even George Lucas would even approve
Five times still hilarious
Yes that terrible wipe 😂
I actually really like the edit in "Do not resuscitate", its just so sudden and intense and it works with revealing Janice's desires to the audience. Also i just love weird, out-there, creative decisions. Most of the edits here are just kinda bad, but dont really affect my enjoyment at all
Me too. It's the first thing i'd remember about this episode.
That one certainly works much better than most of these
I saw that episode a few weeks ago and although it felt weird I really like it, reminded me of Lynchian style to depict hallucinations or thoughts
David Chase, the creator of the show, said he personally edited every single episode of the Sopranos and never let anyone else edit anything. It bums me out that one of my favorite shows of all time has this many glaring mistakes, I like to think of them not as mistakes but as deliberate choices by Chase to incorporate a surrealist feel in some scenes, but that's probably wishful thinking. Great video!
You're right, that's definitely what Chase was doing. So much of the show is about disorienting the audience.
Chase is a liar. He didn't. If u watch any interviews with him, especially the...maybe bad maybe ok imperioli shirripa podcast interview with chase, he admits over and over again that he doesn't remember this or that.
No wonder many saints had so many problems
Needs more Gabagool
People give Chase too much credit sometimes, they forget the awesome directors, writers and actors who gave it their all and they write it off as everything being Chase's deliberate choices. Yeah, he had the last word but it's more like he just recognized what worked. Not that he was personally responsible for every single thing the show did right.
In what universe is David Chase personally editing everything lmao
That one clip of Carmella telling the teacher she's going back to her husband was extremely weird, I didn't understand why we needed that choppy slow down...
Cool breakdown. And yes, the Carmella scene had me scratching my head. For a split second I thought the cable was out for one of those weekly tests with the alarm going off.
Perhaps a foreshadow of things to come in Holstein's?
You also have to remember that early seasons were aired in the 90s. Most viewers still had 4:3 aspect ratio back then.
Nice vid. About the Luxury Lounge scene, the point of showing Tony in that weird sped-up shot after he drops the anchor, is that it's reminding him of dumping Big Pussy's body the same exact way. The footage is sped up to show that he feels uneasy and anxious.
Nice! Totally valid way to interpret that.
It’s funny that regular people don’t even notice or care about these issues but editors think they’re so severe that everyone must be laughing about them all.
You notice a lot of funny stuff with older Star treks too because they were never expecting HD. So stuff that was never meant to be visible is visible and it looks pretty funny
When Ritchie punches Janis in the mouth is one of the most awkward edits
Wow, if enough people comment with decent suggestions I could make a part 2
There is a continuity error in the pilot, when Junior and Tony have a sit down, the background pedestrians constantly change placements after cuts.
Big doubts Tony would risk having that conversation on the phone when he's always paranoid about wiretaps, especially considering what they'd be talking about. He could go over to her house and the front door is locked and he yells through the door or something.
Goooood point here, didn't consider that. Yeah it'd be like when Phil turned into a house.
@@couchbumkino5423 Uncle Philly my ass!
Livia Soprano my ass!
I really loved this video, what a joy, I knew you were coming to the slow-mo Carmella clip. It's such a cringe, unworthy of such a great show. Another silly one I like-not an edit-is where Eugene is pleading with his wife in the bedroom and appears to be simultaneously standing over her and also 6 feet away, it's utterly hilarious when you notice it.
I had never noticed Livia's hair changing styles and directions in between shots in her weird CGI scene
You know what. The only thing I dislike about the Cold Cuts edit is the swipe afterwards. I don’t think the slowdown is for the shot composition or anything but for her facial expression. She’s breaking it off with this guy to go back to Tony and my read in her face was regret that she did that, and the slow down was that realization. The swipe is insane though.
Hmm, interesting point you bring up here
Her feeling regret or some other negative emotion actually makes sense when you remember that she wasn’t actually going back to Tony. At that point they hadn’t even discussed reconciling in fact later when she’s retelling the story to Rosalie and Ro asks her if she was going back to Tony…she says no and that she doesn’t know why she said it. So she definitely felt something negative which would explain the freeze frame on an apprehensive looking face!
I have such a bad eye for bad edits. I missed half the ones you pointed out to me. Great video I subscribed.
I wouldnt say 3:30 is shot like a music video, its far more like a horror movie. Very evil dead or something. Shoutout Carmela being in the clone wars cinematic universe
Funny coincidence: on the same day you uploaded this (July 21st) I also posted a video in which I corrected the notorious Cold Cuts edit, removing the frozen frames of the slo-mo part and then doing a standard cut instead of the wipe
I'll check it out!
the weird haze was in alot of the first season outdoor scenes i always liked it
The whole first season, but most especially the earlier episodes, are a whole different feel, even down to the way Gandolfini plays Tony.
@@booognishwell the pilot was actually filmed 2 years before the rest of the show. So that's one reason.
The Cold Cuts slow-down, to freeze-frame, to wipe is incredible, and perfect for interjecting star wars clips
pleasee keep going with the sopranos videos!!!
Also, with the drink, it not only is suddenly empty, but what little liquid is left is clear, not brown.
this video was fun because it had me seeing if i could spot the bad edit before you explained it. i didnt get any of them except the bad charmaine adr.
great content; keep them coming.
'Proshai, Livushka' also has the scenes where an unknown man can be seen awkwardly walking on the stairs behind Tony and the glimpse of another (not Livia) deceased character in the mirror. Those aren't necessarily bad edits but they further add to the strange feel of the episode.
Does this guy ever leave his mum's basement he needs a chick bad
4:20 probably a nd filter, pretty common for photos and "videos" to get an right esposure in the foreground and not overexpose the sky and in some times it just doesn't work as intended
One of my favorite edits is when they cut from a close-up shot of Ralph Kramden on tv to a close-up shot of Tony watching it. It was one of several references to the Honeymooners and Jackie Gleason that season.
It's not even just the fill level but the liquid is now clear. Lol.
The Carmela slo mo to freeze frame was highly effective because it was the moment she realized she’d already made her choice to go back to damnation. It felt dizzying, almost like an out of body experience, and her facial expression really sold it.
That’s how I’ve always interpreted it too.
It’s a good concept but it just looks so goofy and bizarre
This video is fucking good, finally something other than the same 5 sopranos theories and character analysis parroted by 1000 other channels.
@@whimmmmy really happy to see your comment, glad you enjoyed it. Check out strange edits parts 2 and 3 and my other sopranos stuff
Awesome video! Always thought these edits were weird. New sub here. Keep up the great work!
Thank you!
I completely understand the choppy slow down and swipe edit with Carmela. The effect is actually perfect. It displays the awkwardness and tension with him glooming at her from behind. Then the slow down and….swipe, goodbye. That chapter of her life over and on to the next chapter. It’s as almost as if we are flipping an actual page of a book. In the slow down we, the audience, are thinking oooh awwwwkward…and then…swipe! Or Flip the page! And we’re like pheeew ok that’s done, thank god. So, basically, the edit style is supposed to be conveying exactly how she is feeling right then….an awkward moment that is lasting way too long and she wants to quickly turn that page and be done with him
I want to agree with this.
The edit is interesting with your interpretation but I'm not sure if it was intentional. It's just too weird.
I laughed my ass off the first time I saw the infamous cold cuts freeze frame. I had to rewind it three times because it was so random😂😂
The editor was a made man, and the showrunner wasn't.
I think the Cold Cuts edit is a bold choice to put into an HBO show and I love it. Same thing with the Junior freeze frame dancing scene.
you are a man of peculiar taste
@@couchbumkino5423 im not a man :)
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I think it was sort of strange when Gloria was riding in the car with Patsy, he says, “What, you don’t like me?” and she just says, “Its standard procedure” if you notice the headrests and door panels change in the car.
And that it goes from raining to not raining.
@@ajbahus I did not notice that at first!
I need the Carmella wipe transition into a Death Star intro
Duuuuun Dun Dun Dun, Gabagool Gabagool...
@@couchbumkino5423 Carmella walking with her arms 90* down the Death Star hallway before cutting to the main characters
I had the same reaction when I first saw the cold cuts edit. I was just like wtf. And what’s worse is it was probably the 3rd or 4th rewatch for me and I had to point it out to my boyfriend who was seen the whole series at least 10 more times than I have. Goes to show we spend too much time listening and not watching lol
I'm not too sold on the whiskey glass one. He has a look on his face like he's got a mouthful, I reckon he just knocked it back. For a second i also thought it was cleae liquid on the second shot too but after a few watches it's a bit of an illusion of the light reflecting across the edge of the surface of the whiskey. Love these videos! More minutiae please. 🎉
I appreciate that you took the time to show how you would have edited the scene yourself.
Wimp Lo: EDIT THAT MOVIE, IF YOU'RE SO GREAT
Again with the squeaky shoes…
I think Season 4 or Season 5 Tony goes to the Wild Bird Center next to Italianissimo, the signs are stuck on in edit (I guess the signs were off whilst shooting that scene) it looked terrible..
Nice work. Agree on Boca completely, the freeze frame doesn’t work. But it’s relatively small. The FX in Proshai Livushka is one of the only major errors in the entire show. I like the phone call idea to fix it. The Cold Cuts moment is so weird and out of place. It makes the Boca freeze frame look good
The first time I watched Livia's last episode, I found it super unsettling and didn't know why.
He said the Livia-falling-from-the-stair scene is weird edit. We all now know he cannot be in our social club no more.
The freeze frame of Carmella was to underscore how surprised she was to see that the Ghost Knife of Callisto was still alive.
Idk I love "do not resuscitate" scene. It is unsettling
There was only one bad edit I ever noticed in the series. Maybe more of poor directors choice for a segue than a bad edit though. It was from season 6 episode 9, in a flashback scene where Christopher recounts how Tony helped him with the problem of Adriana being a rat. It starts with Christopher saying, "like that day I came to the house" and the flashback begins. This segue always came off as forced and amateurish, almost like a comedy skit set up.
The Do not Resuscitate one is good, you stunad
Bro deadasz looks like Ralph Macchio haha
I like the weird editing, because it makes the show feel like a direct product of its creator’s mind and hands. It makes the show feel that much more personal to David Chase, seeing effects and edit choices that a professional editor would not go with. Because they’re editing someone else’s work, and aren’t going to experiment or do anything more than the most straightforward conventional moves.
An auteur director who’s actively learning the craft *would* think these choices are interesting or narratively fitting, though. Which gives them a sort of charming naivety.
Also, I’m convinced that David got hung up on editing the bit with Janice looking at the wall sign, and couldn’t get it to work so he got help from someone with editing experience.
The jumpy flash effect and stylized shot of her eye is classic mid-late ‘90s editing, it was everywhere in commercials and tv so he was either emulating the trend, or a pro editor used it to salvage awkward footage and imagery that works better in your head and on the page than in reality.
That Liva edit always scares me
Take it easy there, Judge Roy Bean!
What about the one where Tony emerges from the bushes in his backyard after fleeing FBI at Johnny Sachs? It slows down to a crawl, then resumes normal speed with the music.
Wow, I don't recall this one, going to have to re-watch that scene
The edit in "Do not Resuscitate" is a great one imo.
Very interesting video. Surprised me tbh
After watching all 3 of your videos, I'm convinced David Chase wanted Sopranos to be a Twin Peaks but for mobsters
@@Agentshadling I’m 100% fine with this explanation haha appreciate you watching 👍🏼
My brother in Christ,
the freeze and fade out is an homage to the Godfather.
Maybe you've heard of it
My sister in Moses, what part in Godfather are you referring to?
There was another instance where there was a freeze-frame that was awkward, more so even than Juniors dancing, I thought anyway, when Carmella's coming out of a building, she had a surprise confrontation with Wiegler, (AJ's principal) she walks out after through the doors, with a look on her face, and it freeze frames here, thought it was very awkward
I cover that one! Go to 11:18 in this video.
@@couchbumkino5423 my apologies... I must have missed it, but yeah, they definitely did a couple of weird things, they where well into the show by this though
@@bobby.m136 Hey, no worries. I don't care how people wanna justify that Cold Cuts edit, but that one is comically inexcusable to me
I think the full glass/empty glass is a case of "When you're a hammer, everything starts to look like a nail". It could be a continuity error - but we are also well aware that Tony (and most if not all of the others) are substance abusers. If your niche wasn't editing, but rather storytelling/directing/writing you could just as easily be sitting here telling us this once scene both reinforces our image of Tony as a substance abuser (in this case alcohol), but also as a very subtle note of his reaction to stress and his growing inability to separate 'work' and life - perhaps he was initially going to take a small sip, but the simple act of Meadow complaining [I think that's what she's doing here anyway] is enough for Tony to say "f it" and neck the glass.
6:46 I don’t think Tony would talk on the phone to his mother after being arrested. Wire taps and all
Good Stuff😉
Whenever you notice something like that, two moulinjans did it 😂
The Cold Cuts one was so significant and conspicuous that it's just bewildering. Was there just some editor practicing their skills on the final cuts?
Damn man your voice sounds like you would do a top 10 list for top mojo or something
lol never heard that one before
The series’ ending (the infamous cut to black) really put a lot of the weird edits in perspective for me. Every time I saw a strange or bad edit (like the Carmella scene from Cold Cuts) it took me out of the moment and reminded me that I was watching a TV show (it’s a TV progrum, a movie). The ending, which for many people watching it when it first aired made them think the cable went out, is the ultimate jarring edit of the entire series. Carmella’s scene in particular feels like the whole show was falling apart at the seams and then it swipes into another scene altogether. Clearly done on purpose despite how awkward the execution was. Then there’s all the dream sequences with all the elaborate editing, sound design and surreal imagery that could only be pulled off in a TV show or movie. Before things got too real or too immersive, there’s a weird moment to remind you that none of it is real (just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in.) David Chase really enjoyed messing with the show’s viewers
Yeah whether intentional or not all the other times they show definitely does like to remind you it is a TV show.
Paulie's Colombians heist was also weirdly edited, very choppy
oh dang gotta go back and watch that
It was fine what are you talking about
Huh????
These are the Soprano characters I couldn’t stand anymore: Pauly, Carmela, AJ, Livia, Janice.
Paulie?!?
@@couchbumkino5423 yeah I can’t stand Pauly
@@couchbumkino5423 I only like him in season 1&2
@@Buugzy eh, whaddyagonnado?
@@couchbumkino5423 whatdoyouhearwhaddayousay
I do think the show took great pains to make things look more grimy and gross than they really were. I wouldn't be surprised if maybe they routinely had sunny days grayed out a bit. Maybe they just didn't do a good job on this particular one with Polly at the Lou Costello memorial
For me the weird edits that stood out were when the show would cut to a shot, sometimes even a wide shot, and hold on it for half a second before cutting to something else. Very strange, why even have the shot, you can't even register whats happening before it cuts away. Strange.
Ngl that blur with the Russian was kinda satisfying
A million times I seen their mouths moving and then them saying something different
The one with the mother I never noticed lol
The direction of Luvia’s hair changes due to CGI, and the length of Tony’s hair changes throughout episode due to filming at different times.
Actually, the Boca edit suggested to me that this was a picture taken by the FBI. I recall Chase does this throughout the series...
I kinda like this theory
I love it ❤
I actually think they reedited the scene where they add Nancy's head to the stand-in cause I feel like the first time I watched it it was incredibly creepy and later versions were a little better.
I know they did that with quite a few things through the years so unless ya bought a DVD as they came out they're nearly impossible to find. Which makes some of the flaws seem strange lol
Still the best TV show of all time though!
I might be mistaken, but I don't believe they intentionally created that haze edit. I've noticed the same gradient in other movies from the 90s, so perhaps they were just trying to reduce the sun glare or something.
You missed the cgi pile of vegetables/garbage in S2E11 'House Arrest'
what! how'd i miss that one. gonna have to rewatch
Lol "so you're satisfied"
There are so many over dubs throughout the show. Its like why? What happened? and what did they say originally?
The cold cut is either an accident or a mistake lmfao
Noticed all of these too! Thought the Carmella walking away slow mo was so bad that it was intentional to make the moment that much more cringe.
The arm Tony is holding the drink in changes as well.
@@Kokubetsu 🤯
Anchor scene needs to be kept intact because it reminds Tony of Pussy right after a conflict with Arty. It reminds the audience too. Cutting that so it's not so "jarring" is destroying essential meaning in the scene.
Chase comes from a school where film has a psychological language. Technical today pedantry is what has replaced psychological and emotional truth for today's directors. Directors don't know how to tell stories with images nowadays because they think the only meaning is in the spoken script.
The odd wipes are references to soap operas. They are added visual jokes. The Sopranos is in part thematically a commentary on sitcoms and soap operas...
David Chase didn't even direct the episode or edit it, dummy.
- I like the Boca freeze.
- Boca audio is just an obvious dub, they do it a couple times in the Sopranos, I've actually never noticed it
- I like the do not resuscitate one, it fits with The Soprano's goofy/comedy vibe that it occasionally has
- Big girls don't cry hazy sky isn't really super noticeable, I think it fits the dirty industrial vibe of Jersey
- Proshai Livushka CGI wasn't bad for the time, I recall my parents being impressed
- Luxury lounge isn't super noticable and doesn't take anything away when you do notice it
- Home movies directional blur fits
- Fake smoke didn't really stand out to me
I would say the Cold Cuts one is the " worst " and definitely most jarring. I've had friends and girlfriends who normally don't pick up on anything get completely taken aback by that transition, even my Mother whose in her late 60s had a " wtf " when she saw it as we were watching the show last year.
Great video, I love anyone who does in depth Sopranos vids
Shut up
A huge one that I would always see watching my favorite all-time series..."Pine Barrens"...
The Russian getting choked out with the lamp pole...
The àctor's hànd coming back behind his head to catch thelamp!!!
Favorite All-time show!!!
I'll go check that one out again! I've been getting so many suggestions I can probably do a part 2
Canadian fire haze lol. Thats funny because where I live we've had that bullshit haze for practically a month, I was starting to forget what blue sky looked like.
It’ll certainly be an odd memory everyone in the northeast shares
For me the worst shots were when Vito shot Jackie jr, the close up of the gun going off there is no slide movement or recoil and obviously a toy.
Also when Benny shot the gang members that were hired to whack someone else. Then the guns are going off, it’s so obviously oil smoke and just looks like a high school video project.
Relax, gun nut
The Boca one, I would have keyed up a gradual increasing slow-mo at the apex of the dip that would fade transition into the next scene and keep the overall timing of the transition the same. Less jarring I think.
Seems like a bunch of inconsequential nitpicking.
Perhaps..... but please try and justify the Cold Cuts Carmella edit
@@couchbumkino5423 It was weird and different which is O.K. by me. Your Boca Junior dance cut was an improvement though.
@@juanramirez-wk8ty Thanks for the feedback! Obviously this is all in good fun. I'm a professional editor and just wanted to share little things that bugged me last time I watched.
@@couchbumkino5423 Of course, only a pro would even notice any of what you point out. You are the spitting image of an old friend of mine, dopplegangers exist it seems! LOL!😜
@@juanramirez-wk8ty I've also been compared to the janitor from Scrubs
Once you’ve seen the show a few times you start to notice a metric shit ton of looped lines
What do you mean by looped lines? Examples?
@@couchbumkino5423 just ADR’d lines that are not part of the original dialogue. There’s the “he was my best Buddy in the can” that Angelo says to Tony about Tony B (I believe during the scene where Carmine Sr has a stroke) and another crazy one where Charmaine is talking to Arty about the girl who got SA’d by the soccer coach. She says something like “the fathers in Europe, nobody can reach him” and the tone and timbre are just wildly different from the last line. Not to mention it doesn’t sync up with her lips. It may be called something else, but there definitely are weirdly overdubbed lines everywhere in the series.
@@opaljk4835I think that’s just called a dub. Sometimes parts of the original audio are poor quality so they have them re-record them in a sound room because they can’t redo the scene weeks or months after wrapping
@@peteyprimo7173 no, these are lines added that the actors didn’t originally say on set, for whatever reason. “Looped lines” is old terminology for something they call ADR now. It can mean more than one thing. There’s a lot of choppy stuff in the sopranos that you can hear multiple fidelities in one scene, from line to line. I usually watch it once or twice a year, so the next time I’ll make notes of all these weirdo lines.
Come on, the do not resuscitate scene is just storytelling editing at its best
Oh another thing that’s a bit odd. The gun Vito used to shoot Jackie jr.
You’ll know it when you see it lol
How about the race track footage in Pie O My
Gotta go back and check that one out!
I never really watched the show until a few days ago and once I arrived at that scene with Carmela and the horrible transition I had to pause it in order to process how someone thought that was a good idea stylistically and how multiple people probably green lit that artistic choice, it genuinely makes zero sense
I love the one where vito is about to be at the recieving end of gay intercourse and it cuts to a toy train entering a tunnel
That’s more of a brilliant edit lol
@@couchbumkino5423 yeah didnt mean it was bad its awesome
6:36 Mobsters don't wear ties
I’ve always been a fan of the one in do not resuscitate. Yes it’s weird, but I do like it.
This is like listening to Led Zeppelin II , and suggesting things, Andy Johns and Jimmy should have done better..
I getcha. Not saying the show is bad - it's probably my favorite show. I'm just offering my perspective as a professional editor. Appreciate you watching!
David Chase must have been tired from editing every scene by the time Cold Cuts was in post. He probably delegated some random intern or D-girl for some of the less important (Carmela) scenes. Fuckin D-girl 😒
il be honest the edits were always strange an alot of weird shitty character development or contenuity issues