One of the most consistent and solid 4.0's I have seen. Gotta be killing it in tourneys and leagues if playing that level. But really great match up with lots of variability in play. Cheers.
Haha, this was my impression: “Dang this dude has a big forehand for a 4.0, his footwork looks solid as well… why he is a 4.0?” Whiffs a dipping half volley “Oh, well I guess there are some holes in his game” Keeps watching Nothing but solid attacking forehands and good footwork… “Okay, why is he a 4.0??” Hahahaha, great playing man!
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Nice W Winston! Matt is a solid player and feels like he dictated the majority of points with his forehand, but unfortunately made too many unforced errors. Consistency makes all the difference.
Winston, this was personally the most enjoyable video you’ve posted. Thanks for the content. As a 3.0 myself, would love to see you play against a 3.5.
@@camdinnelson7397 I think playing against a good 3.5 (3.75 trending to 4 but lacking consistency) would be fun to see. It may not be a competitive match but I personally would like to see that head to head. Especially if that 3.75 has good net game but maybe lacks consistency on the ground stokes.
@@cjklein85 you could be right, anytime I've seen a 4.5 play a 4.0 even usually the 4.0 is lucky to get more than 2 games in a set but could be fun to watch I guess
You look like a 4.5 in this video. The first couple of videos I watched, you were going up against stronger players and I kept thinking that there is no way he is a 4.5. Proof that tennis is very much a mental game. Looking forward to seeing your future content!
The 4.0's forehand is actually really good ! I hate making comparisons but it looks like Diego Schwartzman, and it has a lot of depth and penetration. But his backhand is a setback. His backhand has no drive, is a bit loopy and doesn't pressure you winston. He needs to work on his backhand. Also, his serve is very rolling the ball in the court with spin. Not much pace and not much free points on his serve. If he lifted those two areas, he would be a very challenging player to beat. But I'm super impressed by that forehand and the change of direction with court penetration from him, that's why he's only a 4.0 and not higher. It might help if he got some coaching to help his backhand and serve. I was rooting for him the whole time, and hope he improves more.
I have been enjoying the content of your videos Winston. I have a suggestion for you. I noticed particularly on the ad side when you want to kick the serve out wide to pull your opponent of the court you tend to decelerate with the racket. Try snapping the wrist a bit more and I think that you will have better results with that type of serve. Give it a try, Rodney
One thing that i find helps me a lot, is a good net game!! I see you find it hard to go to the net, and it's much easier to finalize point fast, if you are confortable there!! I would advise you to train those shots. Since you're fit and fast, you can surprise going up fast on the net, and finalize easy point, instead of being on the baseline waiting for the opponent to miss, since you don't have great shots from back there.. I find you played much better in this game, that in some previous, more deep shots, and more regular on the serve ( not so many DF) !! cheers
Great set y’all! Really fun and entertaining. Strengths: Winston- great adjustment to start hitting to Matt’s backhand, got more consistent throughout the set, and made him earn every point Matt- that forehand is a 4.5-5.0 level any day, really aggressive with that shot and earned you a lot of free points Room for Improvement: Winston- a lot of balls you’re hitting off your back foot instead of leaning in which causes weaker shots or mishits, and keep working on that serve. Also I feel that the footwork can be improved as sometimes you get a little flat and settle for so-so backhand slices Matt- keep working on that backhand and having confidence in it! Your strength is your forehand and if you’re going to want to hit more of them, cheat towards the backhand side to set up for more of them
Agree. I think Winston hits a lot of shots off platform that he could drive if his footwork improved. You can see how it limits him vs. better players because they smash those almost every time. While the players on his level or below either have an unforced error half the time when they should be points 90% of the time.
matt hits his forehand so good. good speed and contact. the close match worked well for winston too. i think winston looked more comfortable even with matt hitting good forehands.
This was a great set! Quite even, except you’re more consistent and more focused on forcing errors from your opponent through deep ball placement and varying your shot direction. Matthew has an incredible forehand but can get stuck in a tricky position on his backhand side. What would you consider your weakest shot is? I think it’s the same as my weakest shot, the overhead. I always have the exact same timing issue that you seem to have, that made me very unconfident with that shot which made it even worse. The best advice I got is that overheads are all about committing to swinging fully and swinging fast. Hesitating or not fully committing to the shot will cause you to miss, mishit, or hit a weak overhead often. If possible, I always let the lob bounce first because I think it’s much easier to time because the downward speed is slower after bouncing because it lost a lot of that initial acceleration from gravity and how high the shot was, usually leads to less mishits. You’ve really improved your serve consistency and forehand pace and consistency. I can see how much better you’ve gotten at shot placement, keeping the balls deep, and playing really smart point construction. Awesome job, keep it up!
Nice match.. this 1 year old back video came in feed today..I guess Mathew's racket is Babolat pure strike black orange 18*20.. very few people can wield it. I have it and can see simalr mistakes on backhand.
14:09 that evil laugh after tricking you with a junk shot is priceless ;-) Matt's forehand sure is impressive, just could be a bit more consistent (19 winners + forced errors, 16 unforced errors). 2/9 on the backhand, 3/11 at the net.
On the return of serve, are you supposed to split step that early? I thought you were supposed to land when they make contact but you are doing it well in advance.
matt excellent dealing with low pace forehands letting them drop /when they drop below the net (until the very end) which disguises where you are going to hit it....down side is you give him more time to recover by waiting for the ball to drop...you cut off a few and won those points....I can see you mopping the floor with the no pace 4.0 crowd with that.
Does anyone know what are the benefits of wearing compression socks like the ones Matt is wearing in the video? I am wondering if it helps with tennis either while or after playing such as reducing recovery time from muscle fatigue.
matts forehand is great. I know what wrong with his backhand. many times he his first step is with his right foot, so when he hits the ball the weight is already on the front of the body, no power. also this set up allows for smaller hip action. he should step with his left foot first and then the right, and then push with the left and lean forward, therefore he will get extra power from the hip closing and body weight transfer.
1. Lmao you had me thinking some termite was crawling across my phone screen from 14:06-14:15 2. How come some matches you use Diadem racket and others you use babolat? 3. When can we get a video of three 10 point tiebreakers to confirm you actually play better with no shows vs ankle socks vs normal socks?
Matt's got a great forehand and versatile net game. Backhand's tentative and serve is just a missed opportunity as almost every shot is in the middle of the box to the forehand. He had more of a strategy than Winston so if it weren't for inconsistency he would have won.
Matt can easily go to 4.5 soon. He has a good forehand, good timing, power and spin. The backhand is way weaker, he needs to work a little bit more on transfer power there and time. On the serve he is losing some pop with his arm movement, the racket is too "fry pan" instead of going up fast with the edge so he is loosing some mph there. 3 months of work and he can be 4.5 in my view
Winston...take some serve lessons or watched some youtube videos on how to serve. Your serve looks like 3.5 level serve, but with your size it is basically a 3.0 level serve in terms of efficiency. Actually, given your size and strength which is at least a +1 point in advantage, your tennis skill is about 3.5 level...netting you a 4.5 Congrats on being 4.5 if you are, but gotta work on that serve and other aspects of the game. For as much as you play and with your size you should be a strong 5.0 at least.
@@alastairtheduke I am not making videos trying to show how good I am...he is. Should learn how to serve first...does not have to be great just good technique and be consistent. LOL...I got it...you must have the same serve!!
@@alastairtheduke Depends on what level you are and whom you are playing against. At his level, his serve is a liability, especially his second serve, and worse so because he is a big guy whose advantage should be the serve. I have no issue with his opponent in this match although he has his issues. Why?...because he is not making videos every week showing his tennis for the world to see and critic. When you proclaim to be a 4.5 level there are skills that comes with it...certain techniques should be "correct"...not necessarily great, but just correct. Winston"s first serve is not that good and his second serve is a "sitter" waiting to be smacked, and you can check out his video on august 5th which I just saw, where they talked about it at the end. At the 4.5 level or above, you are only as good as your second serve. Calling himself a 4.5 and challenging other players with that terrible serve, and with his size...he should be thanking me for my help. And if this end up helping you...you are welcome.
Matt looks like someone who would have a really pretty sister
smooth
Forget his sister. Look at him!
Matt is such a strong 4.0. Definitely more than ready for 4.5. That forehand is pure
from what I see, the only reason he's not 4.5 is his footwork is sometimes off/lazy and could be more active
@@cks2020693 he could use a second serve to that second serve is a lollipop
Agreed. I don't see 4.0. Holes in his game for sure but he's ready.
That's bc he's self-rated 4.0 but definitely 4.5 level!
He’s rather a strong 4.5….both of em actually. Very consistent and powerful forehand. Only his serve holding him back from being a 5.0
I love Matt's forehand. Super simple motion makes it easily repeatable, yet it's so effective. Amazing.
One of the most consistent and solid 4.0's I have seen. Gotta be killing it in tourneys and leagues if playing that level. But really great match up with lots of variability in play. Cheers.
Matt’s got a wicked forehand at 4.5 level
Haha, this was my impression:
“Dang this dude has a big forehand for a 4.0, his footwork looks solid as well… why he is a 4.0?”
Whiffs a dipping half volley
“Oh, well I guess there are some holes in his game”
Keeps watching
Nothing but solid attacking forehands and good footwork…
“Okay, why is he a 4.0??”
Hahahaha, great playing man!
I've never seen a 4.0 hit like that. Not any true 4.0's anyway. Matt is a solid 4.5 player.
He hits like a 4.5 but I think his mental game is more 4.0 and the unforced errors ultimately cost him the match.
@@perishingflames I was going to say he has 4.5 shots but he is not consistent enough.
@@gab_aleI was going to say the same though I don't think his backhand is yet at 4.5 level.
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Nice W Winston! Matt is a solid player and feels like he dictated the majority of points with his forehand, but unfortunately made too many unforced errors. Consistency makes all the difference.
This is the best match I've seen ever since I started watching your videos!
Winston is a perfect guy against whom you could win by just doing the dropshot setup
Now that was a good match! Solid playing 4.0 right there
Winston, this was personally the most enjoyable video you’ve posted. Thanks for the content. As a 3.0 myself, would love to see you play against a 3.5.
Big difference from a 4.5 to a 3.5 probably wouldn't be to much of a match. 3.5 might get a game if lucky
@@camdinnelson7397 I think playing against a good 3.5 (3.75 trending to 4 but lacking consistency) would be fun to see. It may not be a competitive match but I personally would like to see that head to head. Especially if that 3.75 has good net game but maybe lacks consistency on the ground stokes.
@@cjklein85 you could be right, anytime I've seen a 4.5 play a 4.0 even usually the 4.0 is lucky to get more than 2 games in a set but could be fun to watch I guess
You look like a 4.5 in this video. The first couple of videos I watched, you were going up against stronger players and I kept thinking that there is no way he is a 4.5. Proof that tennis is very much a mental game. Looking forward to seeing your future content!
strong mental game not giving up. well done.
Very good Winston!! Bravo
The 4.0's forehand is actually really good ! I hate making comparisons but it looks like Diego Schwartzman, and it has a lot of depth and penetration. But his backhand is a setback. His backhand has no drive, is a bit loopy and doesn't pressure you winston. He needs to work on his backhand. Also, his serve is very rolling the ball in the court with spin. Not much pace and not much free points on his serve. If he lifted those two areas, he would be a very challenging player to beat. But I'm super impressed by that forehand and the change of direction with court penetration from him, that's why he's only a 4.0 and not higher. It might help if he got some coaching to help his backhand and serve. I was rooting for him the whole time, and hope he improves more.
Yeah, that serve toss needs to go further into the court, he's jack knifing himself. Improessive forehand and movement
I have been enjoying the content of your videos Winston. I have a suggestion for you. I noticed particularly on the ad side when you want to kick the serve out wide to pull your opponent of the court you tend to decelerate with the racket. Try snapping the wrist a bit more and I think that you will have better results with that type of serve. Give it a try,
Rodney
Fantastic set! Tennis the way it should be played, even at this level. Idk about that 4.0 rating though. Matt has a wicked game. Cheers!
One thing that i find helps me a lot, is a good net game!! I see you find it hard to go to the net, and it's much easier to finalize point fast, if you are confortable there!! I would advise you to train those shots. Since you're fit and fast, you can surprise going up fast on the net, and finalize easy point, instead of being on the baseline waiting for the opponent to miss, since you don't have great shots from back there.. I find you played much better in this game, that in some previous, more deep shots, and more regular on the serve ( not so many DF) !! cheers
I think he's a 4.5. Good serve, forehand and likes to come to net. There were a few very close line calls.
Don't think he got many points at net. Very good approach shots from the forehand though.
@@chubun6631 I said he likes to come to the net, not that he's good at the net.
Matt won 3/11 at the net ...
His strokes look 4.5 but as we all know, it's all about match play
@@alastairtheduke Agreed for sure. Needs more consistency.
Great set y’all! Really fun and entertaining.
Strengths:
Winston- great adjustment to start hitting to Matt’s backhand, got more consistent throughout the set, and made him earn every point
Matt- that forehand is a 4.5-5.0 level any day, really aggressive with that shot and earned you a lot of free points
Room for Improvement:
Winston- a lot of balls you’re hitting off your back foot instead of leaning in which causes weaker shots or mishits, and keep working on that serve. Also I feel that the footwork can be improved as sometimes you get a little flat and settle for so-so backhand slices
Matt- keep working on that backhand and having confidence in it! Your strength is your forehand and if you’re going to want to hit more of them, cheat towards the backhand side to set up for more of them
Agree. I think Winston hits a lot of shots off platform that he could drive if his footwork improved. You can see how it limits him vs. better players because they smash those almost every time. While the players on his level or below either have an unforced error half the time when they should be points 90% of the time.
That old pure strike is such a good racquet
Good match, really fun to watch!
If he’s a 4.0 I’m a 2. Feel like the rating system is extremely flawed in cases like this.
matt hits his forehand so good. good speed and contact. the close match worked well for winston too. i think winston looked more comfortable even with matt hitting good forehands.
Nice match, both played very well.
This was a great set! Quite even, except you’re more consistent and more focused on forcing errors from your opponent through deep ball placement and varying your shot direction. Matthew has an incredible forehand but can get stuck in a tricky position on his backhand side.
What would you consider your weakest shot is? I think it’s the same as my weakest shot, the overhead. I always have the exact same timing issue that you seem to have, that made me very unconfident with that shot which made it even worse. The best advice I got is that overheads are all about committing to swinging fully and swinging fast. Hesitating or not fully committing to the shot will cause you to miss, mishit, or hit a weak overhead often. If possible, I always let the lob bounce first because I think it’s much easier to time because the downward speed is slower after bouncing because it lost a lot of that initial acceleration from gravity and how high the shot was, usually leads to less mishits.
You’ve really improved your serve consistency and forehand pace and consistency. I can see how much better you’ve gotten at shot placement, keeping the balls deep, and playing really smart point construction. Awesome job, keep it up!
Matts got some crispy groundstrokes
Nice match.. this 1 year old back video came in feed today..I guess Mathew's racket is Babolat pure strike black orange 18*20.. very few people can wield it. I have it and can see simalr mistakes on backhand.
Thank you for this! 3.5 Next!
Winston, how long have you been playing tennis? Thanks for your content - keep it up!
Nice playing!
Matt is the world's greatest 4.0. Or a sandbagger... ;)
how did Winston win the point 3:55? or was it an error is the score count?
I’ve always hated playing half sun half shade it’s harder to pick up the ball
Exciting set!!
Nice match Winston. Good come back! You def held in there against that monster forehand of his. What go pro stand do you use to record?
damn Matt is talented he passes the eye test for sure
I would kill for a forehand like Matts it was the strongest stroke on the court
What is Matt rocket, strings, tension?
14:09 that evil laugh after tricking you with a junk shot is priceless ;-)
Matt's forehand sure is impressive, just could be a bit more consistent (19 winners + forced errors, 16 unforced errors). 2/9 on the backhand, 3/11 at the net.
On the return of serve, are you supposed to split step that early? I thought you were supposed to land when they make contact but you are doing it well in advance.
@@WinstonDu it's hard to time the split step anyways.
That point at 9:08 🤌
Nice match!
not using hyper G anymore? what wtrings are those?
Great match!
This was a good match because you both are the same level.
@@WinstonDu Enjoy this much more. Curiousity is interesting to see you get smashed but I lose interest pretty quickly. These are better viewing IMO.
matt excellent dealing with low pace forehands letting them drop /when they drop below the net (until the very end) which disguises where you are going to hit it....down side is you give him more time to recover by waiting for the ball to drop...you cut off a few and won those points....I can see you mopping the floor with the no pace 4.0 crowd with that.
Nice set
Is Winston changing his service motion. Looks different
Great match and intriguing. Let me know if either of you get to the Boston area. Would love to hit.
Both seem like 4.5 to me
yeah both are about 4.5 to me.
Matt FH can be a little sharper but it's definitely there as a weapon.
Does anyone know what are the benefits of wearing compression socks like the ones Matt is wearing in the video? I am wondering if it helps with tennis either while or after playing such as reducing recovery time from muscle fatigue.
@@WinstonDu nice hitting as always. Wish I could play like you. Just keep training and one day you never know!!!
Compression helps bloodflow, which can definitely help in faster recovery, among other benefits.
this is pre-karue
Good match!!
matts forehand is great.
I know what wrong with his backhand. many times he his first step is with his right foot, so when he hits the ball the weight is already on the front of the body, no power. also this set up allows for smaller hip action.
he should step with his left foot first and then the right, and then push with the left and lean forward, therefore he will get extra power from the hip closing and body weight transfer.
1. Lmao you had me thinking some termite was crawling across my phone screen from 14:06-14:15
2. How come some matches you use Diadem racket and others you use babolat?
3. When can we get a video of three 10 point tiebreakers to confirm you actually play better with no shows vs ankle socks vs normal socks?
Matt's got a great forehand and versatile net game. Backhand's tentative and serve is just a missed opportunity as almost every shot is in the middle of the box to the forehand. He had more of a strategy than Winston so if it weren't for inconsistency he would have won.
Does Matt have a channel one could follow as well?
Winston. In this Video your playing a 4.0. Matt is a 4.5 in my opinion and maybe a bump down.
Good adjustment from Winston. Matt’s forehand is pretty sick, don’t think he missed one until 4th game
Matt is so much better! Why is he ranked lower?
These courts are mint what state are you in?
I don't see a 4.0 on this court.
@@WinstonDu I see two 4.5 players. One has more patience than the other and has the ability to close out the crucial points.
I also see two 4.5’s. Fun match.
Matt can easily go to 4.5 soon. He has a good forehand, good timing, power and spin. The backhand is way weaker, he needs to work a little bit more on transfer power there and time. On the serve he is losing some pop with his arm movement, the racket is too "fry pan" instead of going up fast with the edge so he is loosing some mph there. 3 months of work and he can be 4.5 in my view
These guys would be like 3.0 max in Alaska
How can you even play in Alaska where the ground is all melting
Matt is a sand bagger he is 4.5
I thought I was around a 4.0 until watching Matt. :(
Is Matt's level really 4.0? If he plays like that regularly, he'll be rated 4.5 soon.
Matthew has fantastic FH but weak BH
The bots are even infesting tennis channels now…
Yeah they are everywhere like fentanyl
@@WinstonDu can you delete the porn bots?
Either Matt's a 4.5 or Winston's a 4.0.
Matthew is 4.5
I think matt can become 4.5 with better footwork
Winston...take some serve lessons or watched some youtube videos on how to serve. Your serve looks like 3.5 level serve, but with your size it is basically a 3.0 level serve in terms of efficiency. Actually, given your size and strength which is at least a +1 point in advantage, your tennis skill is about 3.5 level...netting you a 4.5 Congrats on being 4.5 if you are, but gotta work on that serve and other aspects of the game. For as much as you play and with your size you should be a strong 5.0 at least.
lol, how's that armchair?comfy?
@@alastairtheduke I am not making videos trying to show how good I am...he is. Should learn how to serve first...does not have to be great just good technique and be consistent. LOL...I got it...you must have the same serve!!
@@viktor123k so at what point does a serve become good enough to play?
@@alastairtheduke Depends on what level you are and whom you are playing against. At his level, his serve is a liability, especially his second serve, and worse so because he is a big guy whose advantage should be the serve. I have no issue with his opponent in this match although he has his issues. Why?...because he is not making videos every week showing his tennis for the world to see and critic. When you proclaim to be a 4.5 level there are skills that comes with it...certain techniques should be "correct"...not necessarily great, but just correct. Winston"s first serve is not that good and his second serve is a "sitter" waiting to be smacked, and you can check out his video on august 5th which I just saw, where they talked about it at the end. At the 4.5 level or above, you are only as good as your second serve. Calling himself a 4.5 and challenging other players with that terrible serve, and with his size...he should be thanking me for my help. And if this end up helping you...you are welcome.
@@viktor123k You're overthinking this. No one is charging you ticket to watch. Too bad if they don't meet your level of skill to post on TH-cam.
Hes very obviously a 4.5
Nice match!