Well...If Hermont is a 5.0, then your average player is a 1.5. Some seriously high intensity and brutal hitting. I'm sure the balls were happy when the game was done. Amazing series. Thanks as always Winston! M
5.0 rating varies so much, lots of people don’t want to be 5.5 rated and appeal down to 5.0 so they can play leagues. Everyone in my region in 5.0 that gets bumped up appeal down so that they can continue playing competitively because there’s not enough open players for the next league. In the pnw Hermont would have competitive 5.0 leagues matches. USTA ratings are kinda bogus imo, UTR is much better and I hope they do away with USTA ratings eventually
@@-Munditimum- I’m a solid 4.0. I have a hard time telling a 5.0 from a 5.5, until they go H2H. Then you can tell the difference. They would both destroy me, I know that much!
In my area, 5.5 rating means you no longer can be part of social USTA league matches. Just not enough players at 5.5. But UTR 12 is definitely not 5.0.
@@hooxenv9692 i do have some 5.5 in my area, but it is tough to play tennis. Only league they can play is like 10.5 mixed. Or they have to play open division tournaments
@@TTGamingTrinh If I’m 5.5, I probably will quit tennis and pick up a brand new sport. I refuse to sandbag and there isn’t any recreational league for me to socialize and enjoy.
I thought Hermont was spot on with his assessment, and looked visibly slower and less aggressive as match went on. I thought he was gassing too. It's tough trying to play these insanely fit young kids out there with an endless gas tank!! Great match guys!
This is the type of match you get when you have 2 baseline grinders that don't give you an inch and you have to work your ass off for every point! And as Hermont said, definitely want to see a rematch in the near future! Well done, guys!
I’m a tennis coach in CT and Toby was playing in a tournament at my club. I remember doing a few hitting lessons with him a couple years ago and I was very impressed. Glad to see his game has grown and he will be going to Brown University!
Great match and a nice comeback from Toby! Excited to see his game grow and will be keeping an eye on his college career. Just needs to hit fewer double faults or else I could beat him with a ping pong paddle in a wheelchair...
Such an excellent video. Thanks Winston for getting us right on court w the players. I enjoy watching more than watching some of the televised pro matches!
Toby looks like Sinner, just hammering pace down the big middle. BH and FH grounded approaching triple digits. He’s not going to be an eleven for long. Thank you for posting this
Love the camera angle on this match. You can really see the height of almost every baseline shot they hit. And then see how low and flat their aggressive shots are.
Awesome, heavy hitting and good movement from both. Top notch amateur level, very fun to watch. Hard to grasp these guys probably still loose bagels to top atp pros. But then who knows? What do you think? I was decent club and team player. 40 years ago. At times i thought i was potentionally quite good. But against these two: no chance. Even back then. Tennis definitely grew in depth. Good, it's a great sport.
Toby has a cannon of a serve, holyyyy, and Hermont just being the absoulte human wall he is, unbelievable level these two, Great content as usual Winston! 👏👏👏
The amount of fitness required to play at this level must be insane. Old farts like me would be out of gas after a few rallies like these given that we can somehow keep the rallies going.
Toby hits so deep and with great pace , just completely took hermont out of his normal game which seems to be more attack based. Interested to see him play the other matchup
It's easy to see Toby's potential - his skill is apparent. Great consistency with his strokes, decent variety with his serve, great feet. He looks like a coach's dream. With some good coaching and the additional physical strength he'll gain with time, he's gonna be a beast!
What a great match. They both played so well! Looking forward to seeing more of both players on your channel and seeing Toby going deep in this tournament series 💪🏻
Hermont up 4-0 and a 30-40 break point for 5-0, from that point Tobey wins 8 straight games !!! I don’t think Hermont ever lost 8 straight games in his life. I think Tobey was nervous on beginning and Hermont was physically fresh, but half way Tobey started to play more free and Hermont couldn’t keep up physically. Tough, but gosh Tobey got beautiful technique and strokes, Hermont played perfect strategic points but Tobey flawless strokes and aggression took over. I wanna see rematch !!!
I love Tobys game, such great patience and form. I think he really started to figure out that he would probably have a better chance at the forehand to forehand exchanges as the match went on (I think it probably happened after the 4th game). Super high quality from both guys!
Felt like in the 4-4 game toby was crushing his backhand which set up a bunch of solid wins. Toby's backhand looks to me nearly form perfect. The racquet dipping on the end of the back swing before unleashing the coil is a classic sign of a good backhand, and allows him to generate pace more effectively from that side compared to hermont.
Neck and neck in terms of competitiveness. Hermont was definitely the front runner in the beginning to middle of the match , but as the match wore on Toby started to make less errors on his side and kept taking those timely but huge strokes. My god, I'm tired watching the match haha. Great 1v1 for sure, can't wait for the rematch !
Great match. Toby started getting more of his body into the ball as the match went along. Started off hitting all of his forehands as reverse pivots, and then started double pivoting his body into it as the match went along.
Man impressed with Toby's strokes. Maybe he was pressing a little too much at the start cause the legend of Hermant is known all around SoCal now thanks to Winston.
Even after the first 4 games, I felt it was really close. Toby got a little fewer errors then and came back. Toby HAS the skill, but so does Hermont. Hermont could have won the math. Congrats to Toby for buckling down. Hermont is definitely better than a 5.0. In USTA league, he would dominate most 5.0's, at least in singles.
High quality tennis. Hermont’s balls seem to sit more so Toby is able to attack it. If Hermont can get his balls to be more penetrating or have more kick I think it would be hard to beat Hermont.
Toby's ball is slightly slower but spinnier and heavier than Niels's, giving Hermont no pace to work with. Big loop with decent swing weight (lead tape added to 3, 9 & 12) combo makes his forehand deadly and consistent.
I doubt it…ivy league tennis has extremely high level tennis players and brown is the weakest Ivy League tennis program. Also 11.2 is kind of low Utr compared to the top Ivy League players who might be closer to 13-14.
NTRP is a dinosaur rating system from the wood racket and rotary dial phone era, SUPER subjective, massive range of skills levels within each level.....NTRP is basically WORTHLESS!!! UTR of 11.3 should be at the upper end of 5.5 D1 is like 6.0 and Hermont played #1 at D1!!!!
High quality tennis from both players. V impressive. Hermont has a great return of serve and overall is v consistent (I can only dream). Toby has a nice kicking serve and consistent ground strokes with mixed up shots. Thank you.
Hermont is BACK!!!! Bro you should put his name in the title. I almost didn't watch this one. I usually skip the unknowns or random players you bring in but a few of these guys are really great to watch and always immediate. Hermont is one of them. Such a fun player to watch and a great attitude.
Wow, top tier content. Toby putting on a total clinic... the chip returns on Hermont's first serve totally neutralized one of his biggest weapons. At some point he realized his backhand was better than Hermont's, and hit every ball there, avoiding Hermont's other biggest strength. It seemed like if the point ever went to Toby's backhand, it was his point.
High quality stuff! Toby was pressing too much in the beginning and gave away a lot of points, like losing his serve by double faulting 3 times in 1 game, including twice in a row at deuce. That's the only reason that Hermont got ahead early. Once Toby calmed down and played within himself, he won 7 straight games because he's a little better in every area, especially the serve.
A very entertaining match; I'm just curious: what are their heights? Another thing: I know everyone plays differently but the contrast between the way Toby plays and the way someone like Federer plays is very apparent. If you play a 5 set match, being able to play efficiently becomes very important.
I’m a Hermont fan. Just love the way the guy thinks thru a match. Toby is awesome I wish him the best at Brown. I honestly think as things stand right now they would go about 50/50 if they played each other consistently. Good match!
Hermont seems to be working a lot less hard than the other guy --- which is impressive because he is much smaller. Must be an equipment thing? Heavy racquet and low tension?
"Just for positive feedback, I think when you guys speak about equipment, you could add some text about it on the screen for better visualization. Keep it up, Winston!"
Isn't it technically illegal for college players to earn money from tournaments? I appreciate that you want to help them, but I wouldn't want them disqualified from their college teams.
Toby is gonna be amazing when he learns how to attack and come to net. Props to his coach for getting him to work on it, like he said he was going to before the match (even though he didn't). Even now, when he's locked in, he plays way above 11.
I said it in a previous video, but I''ll say it again: Hermont is so good! Dude is very consistent. I'm a 4.5, and if he is a 5.0, I don't think I'll ever get to that level.
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Well...If Hermont is a 5.0, then your average player is a 1.5.
Some seriously high intensity and brutal hitting. I'm sure the balls were happy when the game was done.
Amazing series.
Thanks as always Winston!
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5.0 rating varies so much, lots of people don’t want to be 5.5 rated and appeal down to 5.0 so they can play leagues. Everyone in my region in 5.0 that gets bumped up appeal down so that they can continue playing competitively because there’s not enough open players for the next league. In the pnw Hermont would have competitive 5.0 leagues matches. USTA ratings are kinda bogus imo, UTR is much better and I hope they do away with USTA ratings eventually
@@lukebarry7322 Agreed.🙌
Less than 5% of USTA players are 5.0 or higher. These guys are top shelf.
@@razorback9926 For sure. If only pros have beat Hermont n this channel, it's more likely that he's a good 5.5. What do you think?
@@-Munditimum- I’m a solid 4.0. I have a hard time telling a 5.0 from a 5.5, until they go H2H. Then you can tell the difference. They would both destroy me, I know that much!
A near 12utr that is rated as 5.0 is insane 😂
is it though? i’ve never heard of 6.0/7.0 league and at least at my tennis center it seems to cap off at 5.0 so maybe just a ceiling?
@@hooxenv9692they have Open league for anyone > 5.0
In my area, 5.5 rating means you no longer can be part of social USTA league matches. Just not enough players at 5.5. But UTR 12 is definitely not 5.0.
@@hooxenv9692 i do have some 5.5 in my area, but it is tough to play tennis. Only league they can play is like 10.5 mixed. Or they have to play open division tournaments
@@TTGamingTrinh If I’m 5.5, I probably will quit tennis and pick up a brand new sport. I refuse to sandbag and there isn’t any recreational league for me to socialize and enjoy.
I thought Hermont was spot on with his assessment, and looked visibly slower and less aggressive as match went on. I thought he was gassing too. It's tough trying to play these insanely fit young kids out there with an endless gas tank!!
Great match guys!
Hermont is one of those rare players, you would pay just to see him hit some low intensity rallies during practice. He's such a smooth hitter!
??? Pay ??
This is the type of match you get when you have 2 baseline grinders
that don't give you an inch and you have to work your ass off for every point!
And as Hermont said, definitely want to see a rematch in the near future!
Well done, guys!
Im always blown away by how good Hermont's serve is. He is probably only around 170 cm or so but his serve is as good as someone thats 180 cm
Technically accurate serve
I’m a tennis coach in CT and Toby was playing in a tournament at my club. I remember doing a few hitting lessons with him a couple years ago and I was very impressed. Glad to see his game has grown and he will be going to Brown University!
Great match and a nice comeback from Toby! Excited to see his game grow and will be keeping an eye on his college career. Just needs to hit fewer double faults or else I could beat him with a ping pong paddle in a wheelchair...
Bro 😂
Great match! Looking forward to seeing the Goat Hermont back again!
Great match! I think Hermont was a bit less aggressive than he usually plays. Toby has some great groundstrokes!
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Such an excellent video. Thanks Winston for getting us right on court w the players. I enjoy watching more than watching some of the televised pro matches!
One of the best matches on your channel this year, Tony's adjustment was so key he was hitting deep and didn't allow any net approach
Hermont!!!! The legend.
Toby looks like Sinner, just hammering pace down the big middle. BH and FH grounded approaching triple digits. He’s not going to be an eleven for long.
Thank you for posting this
Love the camera angle on this match. You can really see the height of almost every baseline shot they hit. And then see how low and flat their aggressive shots are.
Awesome, heavy hitting and good movement from both. Top notch amateur level, very fun to watch.
Hard to grasp these guys probably still loose bagels to top atp pros. But then who knows? What do you think?
I was decent club and team player. 40 years ago. At times i thought i was potentionally quite good. But against these two: no chance. Even back then.
Tennis definitely grew in depth. Good, it's a great sport.
Toby has a cannon of a serve, holyyyy, and Hermont just being the absoulte human wall he is, unbelievable level these two, Great content as usual Winston! 👏👏👏
Need to stop calling Hermont a 5.0 😂. He really is a 6.0. Great play from both, Toby, what a player!
Yoo we played against Hermont when he went to high school at Inderkum 😂 he was definitely on another level. Glad to see he’s still balling out
lol Hermont is just a quality tennis magnet. Every video he is in produces such exciting dynamic tennis. Really enjoying this tournament series!
Hermon still the greatest 5.5+ player in 5.0 😂 good playing to both and great content as always Winston!
Thanks Les!
We're love to see you play on this channel again, Les!
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From my understanding a 5.0 player was about a 10+ 9 atleast lol
The amount of fitness required to play at this level must be insane. Old farts like me would be out of gas after a few rallies like these given that we can somehow keep the rallies going.
I get exhausted watching Toby hit 😂
Wow! What a match! You are both just so good, it was a pleasure to watch. Thank Winston, for putting these matches on.
Toby hits so deep and with great pace , just completely took hermont out of his normal game which seems to be more attack based. Interested to see him play the other matchup
Hermont seems to imitate Agassi and Toby seems to imitate Sinner.
It's easy to see Toby's potential - his skill is apparent. Great consistency with his strokes, decent variety with his serve, great feet. He looks like a coach's dream. With some good coaching and the additional physical strength he'll gain with time, he's gonna be a beast!
The kid can play, prob had the camera nerves at the beginning...good job.
One of the best i have ever watched.
One of the most interesting matches that i've watched on this channel. Toby is a machine!
Toby has a big weapon with the nextgen forehand
What a great match. They both played so well! Looking forward to seeing more of both players on your channel and seeing Toby going deep in this tournament series 💪🏻
Bellissima partita,Hermont un po' troppo rinunciatario oggi,ma il ragazzino picchia la palla come un fabbro.... complimenti 👍🏼
Hermont up 4-0 and a 30-40 break point for 5-0, from that point Tobey wins 8 straight games !!!
I don’t think Hermont ever lost 8 straight games in his life. I think Tobey was nervous on beginning and Hermont was physically fresh, but half way Tobey started to play more free and Hermont couldn’t keep up physically. Tough, but gosh Tobey got beautiful technique and strokes, Hermont played perfect strategic points but Tobey flawless strokes and aggression took over.
I wanna see rematch !!!
That’s indeed physicality and fluid strokes over tactics and experience. As a rec tennis player it is sad to see first wins
AMAZING MATCH！！WHAT A CONSISTENCY THE BACKHAND OF TOBY！
I love Tobys game, such great patience and form. I think he really started to figure out that he would probably have a better chance at the forehand to forehand exchanges as the match went on (I think it probably happened after the 4th game). Super high quality from both guys!
Felt like in the 4-4 game toby was crushing his backhand which set up a bunch of solid wins. Toby's backhand looks to me nearly form perfect. The racquet dipping on the end of the back swing before unleashing the coil is a classic sign of a good backhand, and allows him to generate pace more effectively from that side compared to hermont.
wow! These guys are fantastic and they did a great job of reminding me that my game sucks.
Neck and neck in terms of competitiveness. Hermont was definitely the front runner in the beginning to middle of the match , but as the match wore on Toby started to make less errors on his side and kept taking those timely but huge strokes.
My god, I'm tired watching the match haha. Great 1v1 for sure, can't wait for the rematch !
Great match. Toby started getting more of his body into the ball as the match went along. Started off hitting all of his forehands as reverse pivots, and then started double pivoting his body into it as the match went along.
Just found your channel and love it!!!! Where are these courts in CA?
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What a great match. Huge fan of how both Toby and Hermont play. This tournament is going to be nuts!
Man impressed with Toby's strokes. Maybe he was pressing a little too much at the start cause the legend of Hermant is known all around SoCal now thanks to Winston.
Love the way Toby hits, true college style, makes me happy! Hermont was a bit thrown off it seems once Toby woke up. Super enjoyable to watch!
the brown player cheated. I usually give players the benefit of the doubt but he called balls out that werent even close
Even after the first 4 games, I felt it was really close. Toby got a little fewer errors then and came back. Toby HAS the skill, but so does Hermont. Hermont could have won the math. Congrats to Toby for buckling down. Hermont is definitely better than a 5.0. In USTA league, he would dominate most 5.0's, at least in singles.
Great match! Thanks for playing for the channel and letting us viewers see some great tennis. Good comments after the match.
can we get a hermont vs mark sansait please? has that happened?
What a great match to watch. I hope to eventually play as well as the loser! Toby's forehand was amazing.
Wow, amazing tennis. Haymaker after haymaker… great play from both players.
High quality tennis. Hermont’s balls seem to sit more so Toby is able to attack it. If Hermont can get his balls to be more penetrating or have more kick I think it would be hard to beat Hermont.
OMG Toby what a hard hitter!
When at 4-3 I started to feel like it was a 3th round UO or AO match
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 both players
Great match! Toby really turned it around and took it to Hermont . Big hitting , aggressive smart play.
I never really thought of Hermont being a grinder, but I sorta do now.
Finally, two average youtube commenters duking it out.
Toby's ball is slightly slower but spinnier and heavier than Niels's, giving Hermont no pace to work with. Big loop with decent swing weight (lead tape added to 3, 9 & 12) combo makes his forehand deadly and consistent.
Toby has a bright future !
Damn this toby guy looks like he could be one of the best ivy players
We need a match on here chungus
😂😂
I doubt it…ivy league tennis has extremely high level tennis players and brown is the weakest Ivy League tennis program. Also 11.2 is kind of low Utr compared to the top Ivy League players who might be closer to 13-14.
@@kpy16761 Thanks for your insight Kevin Sun
Thanks Dudes..that was very entertaining! 👍👍
Found my new inspirational video to watch before playing tennis! insane game
Awesome ball striking with amazing consistency.
guys on the other court are admiring more than playing their own game. giving them a free show Winston!
Love me some hermont content!
Hermont is a kind soul! Awesome tennis 🎾 player! Better luck next time 🎉
Wow this Toby guy is so good 🤯🤯🤯
so good
Hi Zoe 😊
Will follow Toby's career at Brown 👍🏽
NTRP is a dinosaur rating system from the wood racket and rotary dial phone era, SUPER subjective, massive range of skills levels within each level.....NTRP is basically WORTHLESS!!! UTR of 11.3 should be at the upper end of 5.5 D1 is like 6.0 and Hermont played #1 at D1!!!!
High quality tennis from both players. V impressive. Hermont has a great return of serve and overall is v consistent (I can only dream). Toby has a nice kicking serve and consistent ground strokes with mixed up shots. Thank you.
Toby missed that call at 9:38 , ball was clearly in he called it out
Hey man, this Toby guy is so charismatic!
hermont's strokes are not very aesthetic but they work
Toby hits sound so powerful jesus
Good for Toby. Brown is a great school.
Hermont is BACK!!!! Bro you should put his name in the title. I almost didn't watch this one. I usually skip the unknowns or random players you bring in but a few of these guys are really great to watch and always immediate. Hermont is one of them. Such a fun player to watch and a great attitude.
enjoyed the intensity of the rallies... cheers
Super entertaining points. Love this content.
My money is always on Hermont when the UTR ratings are close! Maybe you are his good luck charm, Winston...even though he didn't win this one.
Hermont’s record is better with the Pure Drive Plus 😂 What made him switch back to the Dunlop Fx 500?
Fierce match! Toby the Tiger FTW!
Winston went from 4.5 to 5.0 smh 🤦♂️ his volleys and footwork and his falling backwards forehands sorry no way 5.0
Come on Hermont, You know you're not USTA 5.0. More like a 6.0
Fantastic set! Hermont isn’t a 5.0. More like a 5.5. Toby’s fh was just too big compared to Hermont’s.
why is the video sped up?
Wow, top tier content. Toby putting on a total clinic... the chip returns on Hermont's first serve totally neutralized one of his biggest weapons. At some point he realized his backhand was better than Hermont's, and hit every ball there, avoiding Hermont's other biggest strength. It seemed like if the point ever went to Toby's backhand, it was his point.
High quality stuff! Toby was pressing too much in the beginning and gave away a lot of points, like losing his serve by double faulting 3 times in 1 game, including twice in a row at deuce. That's the only reason that Hermont got ahead early. Once Toby calmed down and played within himself, he won 7 straight games because he's a little better in every area, especially the serve.
A very entertaining match; I'm just curious: what are their heights? Another thing: I know everyone plays differently but the contrast between the way Toby plays and the way someone like Federer plays is very apparent. If you play a 5 set match, being able to play efficiently becomes very important.
Harmont is me these days. 😢…used to playing high level singles now after long points im gassed!!!!! Could visibly see him losing momentum
I’m a Hermont fan. Just love the way the guy thinks thru a match. Toby is awesome I wish him the best at Brown. I honestly think as things stand right now they would go about 50/50 if they played each other consistently. Good match!
Hermont seems to be working a lot less hard than the other guy --- which is impressive because he is much smaller. Must be an equipment thing? Heavy racquet and low tension?
"Just for positive feedback, I think when you guys speak about equipment, you could add some text about it on the screen for better visualization. Keep it up, Winston!"
Hermont on his drive plus is a sure win
Isn't it technically illegal for college players to earn money from tournaments? I appreciate that you want to help them, but I wouldn't want them disqualified from their college teams.
hey I've played toby before :)
Toby is gonna be amazing when he learns how to attack and come to net. Props to his coach for getting him to work on it, like he said he was going to before the match (even though he didn't). Even now, when he's locked in, he plays way above 11.
Allan Tennis collab when??
I said it in a previous video, but I''ll say it again: Hermont is so good! Dude is very consistent. I'm a 4.5, and if he is a 5.0, I don't think I'll ever get to that level.
Great match. Love this format - especially with the pre and post-match discussion.
Difference today was the forehands. Hermont's forehand was just not good enough
Great match. How did the TW and Solinco sponsors happen. Did they contact you?
12:53 what a point by both guys