Nissan Ariya 63/87 kWh FWD driving impressions & summary
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I have to remember that the Ariya compensates the lack of space in the center console with the second glove box which many reviewer forget to realize.
Also, the steering wheel, mirrors, seat and sliding center console does memorize their position in the Evolve trim, is stated in the manual, and you can also have additional profiles in the infotainment and up to 4 key fobs with a setting saved inside it for each driver.
Also you can configure the resistance of the HVAC haptic buttons to requiere more or less pressure with a "secret" button combination described in the manual.
The infotainment curiously can play video files.
To me Nissan nailed what they set out to do: create a car where the focus is on what they believe will matter most in years of ownership: comfort, sense of luxury and space - and being good enough in all areas that you dont get FOMO. People tend to forget that a cars quality is not about specs : we all have tried cars where the specs are better on paper but in real life they had no soul, they were annoying, etc. What truly matters is - do you like it, do you want to drive it, do you feel happy with it. I know alot of tesla and mach-, kia ev6 and ioniq 5 owners that are happy about some things on their cars but seriously unhappy where it matters: ride comfort, slow “fast” charging, small space for passengers, super firm uncomfortable ride, inability to drive straight without constantly correcting (kia) etc. So for those reading this far try to think about what YOU have enjoyed in past cars you owned. Was it speed? Comfort? Space? Styling?
The only thing my ioniq 5 lacks is a perfect auto pilot, it struggles which bad road lining. Can’t believe anyone would complain about comfort, charging speed, passenger space,… really think Nissan missed a trick with the rather slow charging here,
@@petervanmullem6087 For me the door handles that don't eject are a deal breaker. In the long run it's a nightmare to open the doors. Stupid things, same as Tesla 3. At least Megane e-Tech have them motorised and L shaped which make them easier to grasp. But I still prefer normal door handles.
@@razvanlex Mine are ejecting when I come close, so no problems with that. I agree that is not an improvement over normal door handles.
I find the statement that rear-wheel drive electric vehicles are generally better than front-wheel drive electric vehicles very bold. For example, the explanations do not mention that the front-wheel drive pulls the car, while the rear-wheel drive pushes the vehicle. An electric car with front-wheel drive can also have great advantages in snow. Front-wheel drive can also offer great advantages in terms of recuperation. Rear-wheel drive (for good drivers) can be an advantage in slippery conditions and level roads. In mountainous countries with snowy winters, I would prefer front-wheel drive even with an electric car.
I find that alot of car reviewers are very fixed on RWD being the only way to go, probably because they put too much weight on driving dynamics and wheel spin. Nissan/Renault have some very legitimate reasons for going for FWD.
Come on "Megane E-Tech" it is your turn.
Second that.
I try the E-Tech : thx to google for UI - but the car is really bad OMFG - zero performance- and bad techno - nice design that’s all falks
Way to expensive for the features
Would like to see that too...have ordered one.
I love the Pro Pilot airplane warming sounds!
According to Nissan/Renault, FWD is more optimal for regenerative breaking and results in substantial weight savings vs RWD because of less cables and cooling. In the case of atleast the Megane E-tech it also means a possibility of a very deep boot space.
Tesla, VW, Hyundai, Kia and Mercedes disagrees.
@@bjornnyland how can you infer that these brands disagree as opposed to simply having other priorities, for example instant torque with no wheel-spin and different driving dynamics?
@@bjornnyland well the regen on MEB is really weak you have to use the break pedal all the time, and VW says its because of the rwd its not secure to have higher regen settings.
They maybe thought about that. Because the majority makes something doesn´t mean it´s always the right thing...
Great set of videos on the Ariya. It has gone up hugely in my views now you have done so many videos on them. It is on my shopping list for our Leaf replacement as it ticks every box except it might be a bit big for our needs and my wife wants Yellow, LOL. We'll take a look once they are in NZ. About the only thing is to check is light towing.
The low terrain “pull up” siren sold it to me, gonna replace my tesla with it
Totally agree that the mid trim Ariya MSRP is cheaper than most other comparable EV's. I did my own research when placing a reservation and pre-order for an Evolve+ trim (~ $49k US) with extended-range 87kWh battery, power moonroof and shade, power and heated leatherette seat, Intelligent Around View Monitor and Rear View Mirror, HUD, ... Any other similar EV would have cost more or not available, and costs even more now with recent price increases.
Other features are opinionated - I did test drives on similar 2WD models (Engage+, EV6 Wind, Mach-E Premium, bZ4X XLE) and think they all have similar performance without quick acceleration, but the Ariya seems to be more quiet and has better interior materials and built. Ariya peak charging is less but stable curve helps for total 10-90 charging time.
With the current tax law changes in the US, the Ariya doesn't qualify for the $7500 incentive until it's built with certain % of battery materials and components in/from the US/NA.
4:10 lol I was thinking the exact same thing "low terrain!"
I wish they gave you the 19 inch wheels to drive on. A 25 mile loss of range for 20 inch wheels in the US EPA cycle. Could have helped more than one would think, rain didn't help either :)
Comprehensive review, much appreciated, pretty nice car overall.
Thanks a lot Bjorn for your honest review. I have a reservation for a Ariya 87kwh. I have been waiting for a long time for a real world test on the highway .
I have been very disappointed by the high energy consumption of the ariya on highway..
I decided to do another reservation for TmY SR. I "potentially" lose a few Km on highway. But since the battery of the TmY SR is a LFP battery it can be charged more often to 100x cent whereas the Ariya 87kwh seems it has a 10 x cent buffer and the charges should be limited to 70 x cent because of the 10 x cent buffer. The result is that it will actually end up doing less km in highway than TmY SR charged to 100..
Or maybe i arrived to this conclusion to make me believe that TmY is the right choice... Thanks a Million!!!
@@hgh425 Thanks for the advice. I will anyway try the Ariya. I like more the exterior look and the interior in the Ariya vs the TmY but the extra boot space and potentially a battery that will have less degradation seems now to me more important.
A ID4 or a Skoda Enyaq is perfect compromise for you
@@hgh425 MEB is less expensive, has great comfort and good amount of space. Also performance is pretty decent
@@binflydushy I also checked them when i did the reservation back on June.. price tag on the Ariya 86kwh and full specs was 55k. with same specs the MEB were more expensive (at least were i live) and because of being above 55k the goverment in my country does not give any incentives..but yeah surely they are also a good choice..
@@binflydushy Maybe, but they look like crap inside and out.
Nice review Björn tx😊
Love your reviews. Detailed and SHIT. Succinct Honest Intelligent Thoughtful. 👌
Interesting how the pricing varies by location. Looked at a loaded Ariya vs Ioniq 5, EV6 and ID.4 and its almost 10K more than these cars.
That's really crazy. In Denmark, the Ariya is around 10-15t cheaper than the ioniq
I laughed so much at the low terrain 🤣
Ok, but west coast of Norway maximum speed will be 10 km south of Bergen with 100km/h now from 31 Oct. Everywhere it is 70 ( almost)
So Bjørn; what would you buy, this in the Evolve AWD or the Ioniq5 Long Range AWD?
What was your opinion of the glowing lamps and the usability of the haptic feedback climate control?
Took a test drive today with the sunroof optioned in. I’m 191cm and having the electically operated drivers seat at its lowest i still hit my head to the ceiling. What a disappointment to be honest
Hi Bjorn, I have a question about the Ariya and thought you’d be the perfect person to ask since you have taken it on long trips in all kinds of terrain and tough weather conditions. Is the front part of the car, particularly the kumiko patterned grill and other plastic parts that have sensors inside, more susceptible to road debris damage such as nicks chips or cracks? I just got my brand new Ariya ❤❤❤ deep ocean blue evolve+ loving it, and am trying to find out if the front could get damaged if unlucky and what can be done (not too expensively) to protect it. Thank you! Sorry I know this question is not related to this video.
I would think for regenerative braking in a front wheel drive car is better.
Great review as always Bjørn. Like a road movie. Netflix go home.
Hi, very nice revives and tests. If be possible next timecan you check regen force and car response downhill and on normal drive condition with cruise control and changing down speed. I believe that in this case car shall increase regen. If it's work I may rand up lack of shift paddles like in Kia. also from other review in YT, I noticed that is not possible to set up % charging limits, it goes to 100% if you not stop it you self. Also I'm suppressed car not have V, 2L or V2H power supply ???
Please test the performance 4x4 enforce 87kw version when you get back from abroad if available from Nissan
Nice review once again... Are you gonna do BZ4X, when they fix the wheels?
They are fixed now 😊
Great reviews. Did you notice a steering wheel vibration on the evolve 87kwh at about 110kmh? I have one. The dealer is saying multiple cars they have exhibit the same vibration.
Hope you get the problem solved... I hate vibrations in a car especially in the steering wheel...
I need to decide whether to get the Ioniq 5 MY2023 top spec large battery or the Nissan 87 kWh FWD evolve... I cant decide. Which one should I get?
Regen, I have driven my Leaf for over 3 years now and I have got it from 7.1km/kwh to 7.4km/kwh+ mainly by learning to work with the regen and not get p*ssed with it. Maybe Nissan has dialed it in really well for efficiency?
I have bought a Ariya Adance 63 kw.. But was told it will be ready in April. I wonder if I should cancel it, and go for a used ID-4 pro proformations 77 kw. insteed for 33.000 kr. more and it have driven 17.000 km... But not sure is a good ide... (Think both cars is great:) )
If you want efficiency fwd not rwd is the way to go. Under braking weight shifts forward, more braking effect comes from the front of the car. Everyone seems to forget that under everything apart from perhaps the most gentle regen settings that the car automatically blends in friction from the undriven wheels (otherwise Evs would have horrible handling characteristics when lifting off the accelerator with lots of regen). So if you want good efficiency you want the regen going on at the front of the car. In theory 4wd should be perfect, but in reality the additional mechanical drag of 4wd under normal driving is greater than the extra efficiency under braking that they can provide (which along with the additional weight of the motors is why 4wd versions of EVs all have significantly less range than their 2wd counterparts). I also don't think the Nissan drive train is as efficient as the ones in the Korean cars. I'm 90% certain that's why Nissan chose fwd, if they went rwd their cars would have significantly less range than the Teslas and EV6 and Ioniq 5 etc which get away with being rwd by being more efficient in the first place.
The Audi e-Tron is over 20k more in the UK than the Kia Niro EV.Hardly worth comparing!
Some models before the Pro Pilot could also drive on the highway but they didn´t beep at you to take your hands on the steering wheel. It´s just the safety requirements from the governments. Because now autonomous driving is more widespread. That is why there are levels.
Ride quality. Are there also bigger wheels on the 87 kwh I guess? But yeah the noise will be higher. I´m not sure if the Ariya has the new soundproofing they showed. Ariya is late yes (I won´t start with the last 20 years...) but really the Germans are late in the whole EV business.
So that´s it. See you on the e4orce.
Does the Ariya have the capability to do bidirectional charging/V2g, like the Leaf? I would think this should be a standard feature of all new EVs on the market today.
Currently no
no
Yeah but is it Geilo approved?! We need Geilo tests!
I tested the Ariya 87 before ordering an EV6 for my wife, but there were several things I strongly disliked in that car so we dismissed all Nissans for the future, we have a Leaf today so we know that one. One is the very limited steering wheel adjustment range which is better than the Leaf but still very poor, the other is that the car was sort of insecure in holding speed, so it had a very uncomfortable and uneven speed at 70 km/h and below when the speed holding was activated. The third thing was the speed limit sign reading and remembering the last read sign. I was driving around in a shopping mall area where there are speed limits of 30, 40, 50 and 60 km/h, and where the dealer is, it is also 30, but when I started the car it showed 70. Then while driving in that area some times it managed to read right, but most of the times not. I stopped at a Biltema parking lot to check the interior and the parking assistance, but first I turned off the car, walked around and so on, but when I started it showed 70 while it should have shown 5 km/h (walking speed limit). OK, I though I'll make a new test in the same area, but once again, same results. Even the ID.3 behaved better than that, which also has a lot of erroneous readings, but not like this... So I returned the car after 10 minutes and gave back the keys. The speed limit reading works perfectly well in that area in our Leaf, so what did Nissan do in the Ariya? There were other dislikes also, but these three things made me NOT recommending the car to my wife. She would hate it. It's a huge car with a huge battery but pretty mediocre range also, compared to the i4 e40 RWD and the Kia EV6 RWD.
How'd you get on with the ev6. After looking at both I'm leaning towards the Ariya. Feels far more premium inside and the evolve ariya is far better equipped than the gt line ev6. No awd ev6's to test drive in my country.
@@jaswingnut Still waiting for the EV6.
When are you driving the new Niro EV?
I have been doing it for a while now. You missed it in the live stream channel.
Nissan Ariya or Kia Nero EV? Any suggestions?
Ariya
@@bjornnyland What about Ariya vs Skoda Enyaq IV 80? I haven't seen your charging test and summary/impressions on the Enyaq.
42.900 € new Nissan Ariy in Finland starting price
Is the Led Matrix standard in the evolve-trim? I can’t find it as a stand alone choice
They are standard in Evolve trim and cannot be added on to Advance trim.
@@fredrikh8070 Thank you for the answer, Fredrik!
Unfortunately their new pricing for 2023 is a mistake, they increased initial prices by 30%, while Tesla decreased by 10-15 % depending on the model. Also end of 2022 production has 7.4kWh onboard charger, while 2023 is 22kWh in all trims.
*7.4 kW
*22 kW
@@bjornnyland sorry of course 7.4 kW is now 22 kW in 2023 models. But the pricing compared to tesla let's say Y discounted price is nearly identical :) so I don't see a great sales for 2023 Ariya unless Tesla goes back to higher prices.
I bought this car eight months ago it’s a good car but has no stability. It doesn’t handle the road very well when you speed when you accelerate the car loses its traction, it’s like kinda like wobbles
This car can definitely mess with Tesla. That’s why am trying hard to trade in my Nissan for Tesla.
Good car for the price.
Love it inside and outside but this thing costs 63k fully loaded in my country. For a Nissan no thank you
wow in the Uk this car is....£56K - erm no thanks
what is the cost of tesla y?
The Ariya is cheaper on lease than 'Y'.
I think I’ve gotten used to the single screen in my Model Y. That car looks cluttered.
There are still people who want to buy Nissan lol ahahahaahahha
Nice review once again... Are you gonna do BZ4X, when they fix the wheels?