Some gears will actually tend to lose boost if you ride out the whole gear. I think it’s second going into third. So good to shift early. But I agree, this is too early.
Are you sure? Most stock turbo and tuned cars need to be short shifted to stay in the meat of the powerband. My tuned BMW 535 with a stock PWG turbo makes about 370 WHP at 5K RPM and and about 275 WHP at 7K RPM where to stock shift points are. Short shifting it is key to going fast.
@Ry.Guy Absolutely Wrong. I shift my G70 at 5000 to 5500. I have a Lap3 1.5 and go 11.40 in the 1/4 mile on E30 trapping at 120. The tune this car Has is a joke.
It's honestly a solid match up factoring in price. 20k difference between these cars. The G70 Jb4 isn't a full tune so it is definitely at a disadvantage. However, my only real issue is in all the races the driver of the G70 was shifting manually every race and seemed to short shift in 2 of the races rather than allowing the car to shift itself. I think it would have performed better had he let the car do its own shifting.
Yeah I agree with you and my message. I asked why don't they do one where they can manual shift and then one timed with out because he seem like he was shifting too soon. But one of my major problems are these times. At no point was the g70 catching up to the BMW but yet it did timewise and then how a 3.60 to 60 has a quarter mile time in the 12s I have a Kia sticker scorpion 100% stock. I do 4.40 to 60 on average. And quarter mile times are 12- 12.2 All dragon verified. I do not understand how they get these times. It just doesn't make sense. And remember I'm 100% stock did g70 which basically is the same drivetrain as my car had mods.
The reason he’s shifting so early is to stay within peak boost. I have a stinger and if you shift around 5500ish you can stay at peak boost for the whole run which typically leads to a slightly faster time
@@re-dx3pc I have never seen a stock stinger run a 12.2 let alone a 12.0. That seems way to fast for a 4.4 0-60. 4.4 0-60 is usually closer to mid to high 12s. And high 3 second 0-60 is about a 12 flat. if you check out the car and driver tests for cars running high 3s youll see it tracks depending on their trap speed. Examples include stock m340i and rs3 which both run high 3s and low 12s
Jb4 isnt an actual tune you guys need to stop saying that. Jb4 is just a boost controller that turns up the boost. Proper reputable tune>>>jb4>trash tune.
Oh so what you're claiming is that the car's factory/ completely unchanged tune allows for boost to be messed with beyond normal parameters? Intriguing
@@abdullaal-obaidi833 While it's similar to the ZF, it's actually Hyundai/Kia's own in-house design. It's also inferior to the ZF8HP in every way... unfortunately...
@@TallTimbersUSA I was just saying to my oldest son, I don’t see why Hyundai (G70/Stinger) or Nissans (Z/Q50) didn’t just develop their turbo sixes to work with the ZF8.
@@TallTimbersUSAI would. The stage 1 G70 in the video wasn't that far behind and is way down in mods. A near FBO properly tuned G70 would've beaten this m340i in the video, clearly
Tell these guys to get off the paddle shifters. Leave the things in auto for the drag races. Start in manual for the rolling races, then bang it over go auto once you've started accelerating. The computer will ALWAYS shift at better points than the meat behind the wheel.
Facts, I don't understand it. got a 2019 G70 3.3 when it first dropped in nyc I can tell you as an early adopter the paddles is not the way to go in that car
The Genesis owner always short shifts even in previous videos. Look at the phone in the Genesis, he keeps shifting around 5500 rpm when the peak power is at 6000+ rpm. I own a Stinger and it feels sluggish when shifting below 6000 rpm, he has to shift around 6300 rpm
lol from my testing it's faster when shifting near the red line which is 6500 rpm. On Drive my Stinger automatically shifts around 6200-6300 rpm at high speeds anyway.@@roboticvenom1935
@@roboticvenom1935 my point still stands, the Genesis driver shifting at 5500 rpm made it a lot slower in this race as the peak power for this engine is from around 5400 rpm to 6000 rpm. Him shifting at 5500 rpm drops the rpms back to 4700 rpm after every shift (you can clearly see that in the video) which is way below the peak power rpm. If he shifted at around 6100 rpm it would stay in the power band for the whole race
@@iPadGameWalkthrough Yes he should've shifted directly at 6000. Regardless the BMW costs $11K more then the Genesis and it has significantly better mods so the Genesis was already at an unfair fight. The b58 motor in the BMW is just much better, so is the driving dynamics. The Genesis is still a 2018 car with a 2017 engine. I am excited for its update which will make it more competitive
I have a stinger and know which RPMs you should be shifting at depending on which gear you r going to, but he seemed like he was not hitting the right numbers. But either way let's say he was. I wish they would do one with out shifting just to see If there's any difference. And those numbers that I know of are all stock numbers. And 5500 is too high now with it being modded. I don't know if there's an adjustment then for that but I've never seen numbers actually for modded all the numbers I've ever seen were for stock. Since depending on how you made adjustments with your mods TCU tune JB4 whatever you do that would change the power band and shift points. I have a 22 scorpion stinger 100% stock and I do 4.4 60s and 12.1 quarter mile time so I don't know how a mighty g70 had that slow of a quarter mile time or how the BMW had a 3.6 0 to 60 and didn't get out of the 12s. That is impossible to me then I don't know if the g70 had traction control completely off. I doubt it cuz he wasn't doing a true launch mode but if he was and if you're just a hair late and you hit red line it bounces it off the rev limiter Well I'm racing from a dig. I usually just let the car shift because of that very reason or you have the problem in first where you can hook up and you almost have to shift right away like instantly. Or you're going to bounce off that rev limiter before you get a second now this is all just when you have full trashy control and stability off and you have to do the shifting. Once you press that paddle it will not upshift at least in the stinger it won't. I'm assuming the g70 is the same since it's exactly the same drive train
4.4 0-60 with a 12.1 1/4 mile makes no sense. That means ur spinning off the line or just super slow, then pick up insane speed suddenly to make it up.
@@DMCarReviews So I have the 22. I'm telling you they are completely different than the other models. I'll see you if I can post my draggy times and post the dyno now it wasn't my card. I got dynoed but it was another scorpion that had no mods done to it and I'm not sure if the dyno runs high but it had supposedly 510 torque 430hp. And I have problems with the dry he validating runs where I do them. No cops can hide. I let traffic get what I think it's a good distance away but I end up catching up half the time so I end up having a coast or breaking a little bit. Now I did cap my recirculating hoses to give the blow-off sound. That's the only thing I did other than stock and I think that actually hurts me so I do have a slight hesitation off the line but then it hits hard. And I've done faster than a 4.4 0 to 60 also. I don't understand why draggy invalidates in incline over one degree. The incline hurts you. I understand the decline being invalidated but why does it invalidate inclines My fastest 0 to 60 was a 4.18 and then the 1 ft roll out how the core companies do it. I was a 3.93 now it was somewhere around 10 to 12° f out that particular run and when I start my times I am on the shoulder. So there is gravel mine's all-wheel drive. But I still can easily spend a tires. I'm telling you unless you drove the 22 and like I said mine's a scorpion. I don't think there's any added power but it is just different. The times I get older models need to do several mods and if you all look at other scorpions that have the same mods, they're in the high 10s 1/4 and mid threes consistently. I would have to drive an older stinger to see how they feel different. But if you look up twin turbo TH-cam page, the one guy that races the stinger on there hangs with a tuned rs5 and he has mods on his stinger. He has the tribute edition which is the same thing as mine except they have alcantara inside which I don't like. Anyways, with the scorpion model only the Canadians got the alcantara. I just don't like the look. I know my times people can deny me all they want that those aren't possible. So what would a 4.4 0 to 60 equate to in a quarter mile My other vehicle a 2010 Acura tl all-wheel drive which supposedly only has 60 less horsepower and 100 less foot pounds of torque. My best best time was a 5.2 0 to 60 with a quarter mile. It was 13.9 And I got that on an extremely cold day. Otherwise it would be around high 5s in that vehicle was extremely fast and I didn't lose to anything up until the last couple years. Somewhere around 2019 cuz he started having altimas that had 280 horsepower and weighed 7 to 800 lb less So like I said, unless you drove a 22 GT2 scorpion, I'm assuming the regular GT2s are the same. They claimed there's no performance difference, but the only dyno I have is another scorpion that's in the area
Do you get sponsored by any car manufacturers or any companies in the car, business or sponsorships at all other than the commercials you do or the promotions? If so, would you be able to list all of them? And even if you do get sponsored myself, I'm not saying you're doing anything to make one look better than the other cuz there's a lot of variables that take place but it would just help to know. Cuz I could see a lot of people watching what car they want to go get, especially if they're stuck between several different types of cars
It is not possible to be sponsored by any automaker to film these videos. They only sponsor fashion influencers or travel or lifestyle. The term used in this case is “unbiased review” hence why they wouldn’t pay me for any review. I have an agreement with them where they offer no financial compensation. In fact I pick them up myself and pay for the gas myself. Cheers
@@SamCarLegion what about them blackballing you in a way where if you get a car to use? I don't know if you ever get cars from dealerships to use those after all the people that bring them but let's say it doesn't do well. Do you have a hard time getting another vehicle to do another race with?
I owned a JB4 modded G70 3.3t. The tranny is not great , it holds the car back. I sold it after 2 years because of issues and dealers were terrible (Hyundai service centers) My co worker owns a M340i, it’s on another level. That B58 and ZF8 is amazing. I wish I would’ve spent the extra cash for the M340i or M240i
JB4 is a horrible alternative to a REAL tune, horrible. Drivability is horrible as it interpretes signals and passes them on. A real tune has far superior drivability and smoothness, and more power.
Apples and oranges comparison. The M340i is about $10K more expensive than the G70. Also the BMW has an actual tune, while the JB4 is a piggyback and not an actual tune. Not a fair comparison at all. M340i also makes much more power than the 382HP that is advertised. Fun to watch either way.
A stage 2 M340i should be doing around 11s on the 1/4 mile. I saw an X3 M40i on a stage 2 running an 11.1s. The 1/4 times in this video are close to a stock M340i.
Nice races. That BMW had the power and legs to take the wins but it was close. Not sure what happened since you did the first race and then some other guy ended up in the BMW. 🤔
Might be track or something. A lozic TCU with a jb4 or ecu tune combo should be anywhere from 11.5 to 12.0. I would also expect a m340 with any tune whatsoever to be a 11sec car
You already know it's not a 50hp difference. The b58 is 382 on paper, but really it's more like 430-450hp. With a jb4 and those aftermarket parts, it's really more at 550+hp, especially with a tcu tune. Definitely the g70 was only making 425hp barely touching 450 with stage 1 jb4. Although I have seen some g70 and stingers making 400hp stock vs 368hp on paper numbers in dyno.
@@alengreen589 You two are too young to know. BMW underrates their cars. 382hp is on paper. When technically its really actually 430-450hp at the crank. Go do some research.
@@layne4376 I honestly think it's just because of the fake 382hp that they advertise but then again, if you factor in that, the m340i is technically $10+k more expensive than a fully loaded g70.
Sam, I ❤the channel, but I am going to comment this on every video until you change.... Please do not start your roll races from a specific gear, but rather whatever gear works BEST for that particular car. Torque curves, transmission ratios, and final drive ratios ALL matter, and no two cars are alike. Arbitrarily starting in a specific gear for both cars can severely handicap one car vs the other and not give a true result. Overall you're doing great, but you really need change the way you do your roll races.
@@SamCarLegion Im sorry but, unless there's something that I am unaware of regarding the location of where you're doing your videos, I disagree. What is unfair is starting a roll race in a gear where the car is not at or near its peak TQ. As an owner of a GT350, I know that if I had to start a 32 mph roll in second gear, I'd be eaten alive by several mid level mundane daily drivers. Your SS 1LE vs M2 video is a great example. With the 1LE being Chevy's version of the 350, that one really drives home the point for me. Otherwise, keep up the good work. You've got a great format for your videos.
You can’t make it fair when you believe that cars will do better at certain gear without exactly knowing what the power level is at that gear. If one car is better at 1st gear but the power output is 85 - but then the second car is in 2nd gear for better out, but the output is only 78%, how do you make that fair? We don’t have an actual meter to measure that. So the fair test is to put them at equal gear and have them perform at that level. Thats the entire point of a drag race.
@@SamCarLegion Im sorry, but I still don't see it that way....for the roll races. The drag race is different as you're obviously starting in 1st. Anyhow, it's all good. Keep on making good videos.
@@SamCarLegion That doesn't make any sense Sam. If you know the torque curve for your car then you know what gear is best for a given speed. Even without knowing the exact torque curve all you have to do is drive the car and send it a few times and boom you know which gear is giving you a better launch from a given speed. It's not rocket science, it's either faster or it's not. And "equal gear" is NOT the point of a roll race. It's "equal speed".
@@iPadGameWalkthrough A lot of people noticed this (comment section) and TBH I have seen some other shadiness coming from this channel whenever the G70 is involved. I'm pretty sure they fabricate their races to have a specific result, they try to hide it in one fashion or another but the keen eyed viewer or owner of the G70 always notices it. This just once again confirms my suspicions.
I find it humorous that you think they aren't, Why because the engine/tranny combo is barely better? The interior of the G70 is far above that BMW and in fact most of it is. Have you owned both or even one LOL I have both so try your Logo chasing elsewhere and newsflash the man that made the M Series what it is runs Genesis and eventually it will finish the job it started to take the top spot. Now come back with all your little posts about how is handles and whatever else you can repeat but they mean zero. G70 is nicer inside and I will say they are both nice outside but soon it will be 100%. I own both and the BMW only has a better engine and tranny that is it.
bmw will always take the cake that’s forsure but in this race the people driving the g70 looked like they were shifting abit early. either way woulda lost but woulda been closer with the proper shifting
@datsuntoyy incorrect plenty of videos on TH-cam record is actually at 10.7 seconds with a lap3 tune not sure how much hp they had just know there wasn't any serious modifications hell they didn't even do any weight reduction to get that time could probably shave off at least .1-2 seconds if they had.
@@user-kb8zb1gj6m You believe everything you see on TH-cam. Use a little bit of common sense. I have 550hp in about the same weight car and I'm at 11.8 and people often don't believe mine is that quick.
@datsuntoyy Common sense dictates that the video I've seen on TH-cam with my own eyes is more reliable than what some nobody tells me in a comment section At the very least. I know that he has a car and went to the drag strip I have no idea if you even own the car you're claiming as I've never seen it why would I believe you? Over a reputable company? 😂 no one doubts drag verified times.
Firstly, this is a horrible mismatch because the BMW has a superior tune, an additional TCU tune, and downpipes(significant power adder) whilst the Genesis lacks all of these. Pathetic Secondly, before the mindless BMW fans slather the comment section with BMW's fluids, the cheapest m340i's in the country are $62K, whilst the cheapest Genesis g70 3.3t's are $49K. Both are averaged prices(meaning they're not the very lowest price but the first frequently low price) thats a significant gap and of course, the Genesis has more standard equipment as far as options go. M340i is a brilliant car, as is the G70(it kept up surprisingly well given the engine, price, and modding disadvantages) but its not at all one sided like people will fool you into believing. Bost impressive showing here was the G70, objectively. This comment may be buried under, "BMW ez win destruction always" with like 20 likes lol. Shows the state of this channels comment section.
@@kuvyoghmoobamelica6883 and that was discontinued without a direct replacement. While the Hyundai Genesis sedan was replaced by the G80 (also a sedan).
@@TheBreakfastLover No, they discontinued to make Genesis a brand instead of a model. Not only that, Genesis is still really new. Have you not seen them new cars Hyundai and Kia are making? Most definitely a sports car is coming to Genesis line up.
No actually if they would have given the Genesis an actual tune like they gave the BMW and stop Shifting the paddles with their meat pads letting the car shift themselves the outcome most likley would've been different 😂😂
Scuse me, but bmw owner have driver licence? I'm asking because except formula 1 where steering had VERY small amout of degrees lock to lock, in ANY kind of motorsport is not useful such driving position, more than that.. is even LETHAL position for handling at high speed or for emergency maneuvres.
@@user-mc2kk8yf5z most of the cars I’ve seen with so called proper tunes end up shitting themselves. I’m sure he’ll be able to drive this bad boy home lol
@@rinodoog Not the interior or the exterior just the tranny and engine. The M Series guy is now at Genesis so that will also change soon. I have both and sorry but the interior or the G70 is way nicer, not close.
How are you getting times cuz none of this makes sense here several problems with these numbers. The g70 was 0.61 seconds slower to 60 by the time they got to the quarter mile was only 0.42. as far as I saw, the BMW is pulling away from the g70 now it's not a lot but at no time is the g70 evening that out and stopping the BMW from pulling away. I have a Kia stinger scorpion mine's 100% stock I do on average a 4.4 0-60. I've hit a 3.9 when it was 15° f. My quarter mile time is 12.01 faster than both of The times these cars achieved. I don't understand how a 3.6 0 to 60 only gets you a 12.06 quarter mile. That makes zero sense. That should be the mid 11s at worst a 3.6. 0-60 and is that with one foot of roll out or is that a standing 0 to 60 time that'll matter a little bit but still let's say that's a one foot roll out. You're still talking sub 4 second for the BMW there's zero chance a car that does a sub 4 second zero 60 will be in the 12s in a quarter mile. It just wouldn't happen unless it's geared completely wrong but it's not the case here. And the g70 should have been basically right at 12 if not in the high 11s. You should have them do a race also. That's timed with them not shifting cuz it look like the guy in the g70 was shifting way too early. Like I said I have a stinger And as far as I know, stinger and a g70 both drivetrain wise are exactly the same and then they're tuned on top of it. How did it g70 tuned with all that only do a 12.48 quarter? I don't care if it was a 90° day out there. I would still be in the mid-12 if not a little lower and I'm 100% stuck. Are they going up a slight incline or is it 100% flat? And if they're dragging times can you post those?
Here's what you have to look at. This BMW is being challenged by a Hyundai product and it was a close race. Considering how long BMW has been around and supposedly known for such ingenuity. I think in a way, Genesis won.
Yup that m340i is not tuned well. Im thinking more like 450 hp. Those numbers are basically what my m240i does stock and my car is far faster with a jb4
My m340 gets 3.5 0-60 and 11.8 1/4 without the trans tune and a JB4 with a locked DME. They aren't driving it properly or something wrong with the car.
@@stefanomarcellino6701 When I ran that time the rain was drying up there was a flood few hours ago on a bad surface with 225 tires all season run flats. No worse condition then that unless were talking rain or snow.
I'm not sure if the numbers posted for the G70 are a true reflection of the car with its current mods, but as a owner of a 2020 M340ixdrive, it does seem like it should have posted faster times and I believe it is that neither Sam or the owner were using launch control or at least not using it properly. The m340i launches way harder and would have shaved off time.
G70 isn't really full tune like the BMW is and was that far behind it.. G70 was shifting a little early should of raced and let the car shift its self. I say that's really good for a KIA engine
@@Bimmer_Bill I love both g70/stingers and the m340i. I currently own a 2023 g70 sports prestige 3.3t awd and have an Afe Takeda boxed intake only. I will be using this car as daily driving, and hopefully by next year, I can find a 2021 m2 competition for a good price now that the g87 m2 is out.
Well the driver behind the BMW is better the tune on the BMW is better of course the BMW wins? Give the 70 a real tune and let the cars shift themselves it walks the 340 hyundai engine a joke do your research 🤣🤣
@@supersportlt1 If you knew anything about the b58 motor in the 340i, you wouldn't say that. The b58 is 382hp "on paper" which in reality, it's making 420-450hp stock while the g70 makes 368hp stock. That's already almost 100hp down stock vs stock. Now if you factor in tune and aftermarket parts into both cars like in this video, the 340i is definitely near 550hp (remember, bmw lied about hp figures) while the g70 is about 425hp, barely touching 450hp. It being down 100+ hp, and more weight, it didn't lose by much.
@@jaybandzz9963 even without the tune the m340I is still gonna win because the standard m340I beat the c43 and the standard c43 beat the standard genesis(what I mean by standard is without any kinda tune)
@@abbasabdullahi5363Well price difference if you're talking stock to stock. 340i is near 70k, while the g70 is 55k ish for sports prestige trim. Cant expect a 55k car to beat a 70k car. Stage 1 JB4 is good a mild tune over stock.
@@kuvyoghmoobamelica6883 well I never said I was expecting the genesis to win because I'm aware of the price difference I said I came to watch the genesis lose.
@@abbasabdullahi5363 Nah you're just a hater. Can't hate a car that you never owned. I get it if you're gonna be stereotypical against Mustangs and Camaros but we already know they are shitty cars but when you go against a car you don't even know or owned, you're just a hater. The g70/stinger and the 340i are really good cars and has soo much potential to make high hp with mild upgrades. Love both cars.
As much as I love the G70! It hasn’t beaten a M340i in any race no matter if it’s tuned, stock or otherwise. The M340i is just a masterpiece of driving machinery. Maybe if Hennessy Performance has a true tune for the Genesis it’ll stand a legit chance.
LMAO, you should spend 30 minutes looking up the history of John Hennessey. He's NOT a friend to the tuning community. If you want to see the G70 have a fair shot against the M340i, it should have the same mods, particularly a real ECU and TCU tune like LAP3. It may not win, but it would be a hell of a lot closer.
So since last year when you did your facelift G70 videos, it's pretty clear you are short shifting the G70 and you continue to do so. Looking at the comment section it's obvious I'm not the only one who is noticing this. Just wondering when you will have the balls to admit you're being paid by BMW or you have some incentive because you aren't fooling anyone, aside from BMW fans.
@@roboticvenom1935it’d be close. My g42 m240i ran 3.8 and 12.2 bone stock not even fully broken in and it’s only slightly lighter than the m340i. A properly tuned m340i should be a 10 second car or close to it.
@@Bimmer_Bill If your car hit 10.9 seconds, it doesn't mean your car is a 10second car. Technically it's a 11 second car lol. It's not 10 second car until it's below 10.5 sec.
The kid in the BMW looked like he was racing his dad LOL. Someone give our boy a booster chair. Slick looking cars though 👌
Makes sense with the body kit choice.
LOL
Lmao my man was struggling to see over the drivers window 😂
@@M240Waheed 🤣 facts bro
lol :D looks like a normal bmw driving position :)))
As a owner of a Supra and a G70. G70 is an amazing car. But the B58 and ZF trans. Is the difference maker in performance. Especially tuned.
G70 shifted way to early on every run, would of been a different turn out if he just let the car shift it’s self
Some gears will actually tend to lose boost if you ride out the whole gear. I think it’s second going into third. So good to shift early. But I agree, this is too early.
Are you sure? Most stock turbo and tuned cars need to be short shifted to stay in the meat of the powerband. My tuned BMW 535 with a stock PWG turbo makes about 370 WHP at 5K RPM and and about 275 WHP at 7K RPM where to stock shift points are. Short shifting it is key to going fast.
It's around 5300-5500 on the first 3 shifts on the G70 3.3t. Definitely don't want to ride it out through peak rpm.
@Ry.Guy Absolutely Wrong. I shift my G70 at 5000 to 5500. I have a Lap3 1.5 and go 11.40 in the 1/4 mile on E30 trapping at 120. The tune this car Has is a joke.
It's honestly a solid match up factoring in price. 20k difference between these cars. The G70 Jb4 isn't a full tune so it is definitely at a disadvantage. However, my only real issue is in all the races the driver of the G70 was shifting manually every race and seemed to short shift in 2 of the races rather than allowing the car to shift itself. I think it would have performed better had he let the car do its own shifting.
Yeah, I noticed that
Yeah I agree with you and my message. I asked why don't they do one where they can manual shift and then one timed with out because he seem like he was shifting too soon. But one of my major problems are these times. At no point was the g70 catching up to the BMW but yet it did timewise and then how a 3.60 to 60 has a quarter mile time in the 12s I have a Kia sticker scorpion 100% stock. I do 4.40 to 60 on average. And quarter mile times are 12- 12.2 All dragon verified. I do not understand how they get these times. It just doesn't make sense. And remember I'm 100% stock did g70 which basically is the same drivetrain as my car had mods.
The reason he’s shifting so early is to stay within peak boost. I have a stinger and if you shift around 5500ish you can stay at peak boost for the whole run which typically leads to a slightly faster time
@@re-dx3pc I have never seen a stock stinger run a 12.2 let alone a 12.0. That seems way to fast for a 4.4 0-60. 4.4 0-60 is usually closer to mid to high 12s. And high 3 second 0-60 is about a 12 flat. if you check out the car and driver tests for cars running high 3s youll see it tracks depending on their trap speed. Examples include stock m340i and rs3 which both run high 3s and low 12s
@@isaiahhabeeb5933exactly gotta stay in the powerband
Jb4 isnt an actual tune you guys need to stop saying that. Jb4 is just a boost controller that turns up the boost. Proper reputable tune>>>jb4>trash tune.
Jb4 is a tune. Please stop
@@Itshimitshim No it isn't. You need to learn about the JB4 before you make that statement because I actually have one and an ECU tune.
Jb4 controls fuel and timing too.
Wow, that m340i looks and sounds the business ❤
Oh so what you're claiming is that the car's factory/ completely unchanged tune allows for boost to be messed with beyond normal parameters? Intriguing
Nice job Sam! I like that you are posting times now!!
G70 is definitely impressive!! I like that to beat a C43. The M340 I is the best in its class so for it to hang in that well is nothing to overlook
Turned out as expected. Uphill battle for the G70, battling a B58 and a ZF8.
I own a G70 3.3T, you're not kidding. Even with intakes, downpipes, colder plugs, and LAP3 ECU/TCU tunes, I wouldn't put money on the G70.
I thought the g70 also had a zf8?
@@abdullaal-obaidi833 While it's similar to the ZF, it's actually Hyundai/Kia's own in-house design.
It's also inferior to the ZF8HP in every way... unfortunately...
@@TallTimbersUSA I was just saying to my oldest son, I don’t see why Hyundai (G70/Stinger) or Nissans (Z/Q50) didn’t just develop their turbo sixes to work with the ZF8.
@@TallTimbersUSAI would. The stage 1 G70 in the video wasn't that far behind and is way down in mods. A near FBO properly tuned G70 would've beaten this m340i in the video, clearly
Tell these guys to get off the paddle shifters. Leave the things in auto for the drag races. Start in manual for the rolling races, then bang it over go auto once you've started accelerating. The computer will ALWAYS shift at better points than the meat behind the wheel.
Facts, I don't understand it. got a 2019 G70 3.3 when it first dropped in nyc I can tell you as an early adopter the paddles is not the way to go in that car
I said that same thing
Genesis need a Lap3 tune..
Exactly.
LAP3 would walk the M340i lmfao
LAP3 Tune Vs anybody 💯
B58>G6DP any and everyday!
Still dog shit slow
I like that you added times to your videos they keep getting better
The Genesis owner always short shifts even in previous videos. Look at the phone in the Genesis, he keeps shifting around 5500 rpm when the peak power is at 6000+ rpm. I own a Stinger and it feels sluggish when shifting below 6000 rpm, he has to shift around 6300 rpm
6300 RPM is out of boost range buddy
lol from my testing it's faster when shifting near the red line which is 6500 rpm. On Drive my Stinger automatically shifts around 6200-6300 rpm at high speeds anyway.@@roboticvenom1935
@@iPadGameWalkthrough it's not faster to shift above 6200 RPM, not necessarily slower but there's no real benefit.
@@roboticvenom1935 my point still stands, the Genesis driver shifting at 5500 rpm made it a lot slower in this race as the peak power for this engine is from around 5400 rpm to 6000 rpm. Him shifting at 5500 rpm drops the rpms back to 4700 rpm after every shift (you can clearly see that in the video) which is way below the peak power rpm. If he shifted at around 6100 rpm it would stay in the power band for the whole race
@@iPadGameWalkthrough Yes he should've shifted directly at 6000. Regardless the BMW costs $11K more then the Genesis and it has significantly better mods so the Genesis was already at an unfair fight. The b58 motor in the BMW is just much better, so is the driving dynamics. The Genesis is still a 2018 car with a 2017 engine. I am excited for its update which will make it more competitive
I need to start making bets with friends from your races, my edge will be what ever car you race in. 😂
To compete with those B58's you need those 3.3TTs running e50.
Thanks Sam for this game and hopefully to try g70 stage 2 vs the same bmw.
Regards ❤
Something wrong with that bmw it should be faster.
Awesome race! Thanks Sam
Can you post trap speeds, that would be great data to have. 👍🏻
The driver of the G70 did not give room to shift the tigress so that Gives a tigress before the transfer is due
Honestly the G70 exceeded my expectations here!
You can really see the weight difference the drivers make
LMFAO that m340i is lightweight
@@M240Waheed wtf are you talking about Habbibi? The DRIVERS are probably 100 lbs different.
@@Bimmer_Bill yea that’s what I’m sayin, that lil boi made the m340i pretty lightweight habibi
@@M240Waheed lol gotcha
Peak power doesn't matter AS MUCH... as AVERAGE power at all RPM, gearing, traction, throttle response, shifting time, and car weight.
I have a stinger and know which RPMs you should be shifting at depending on which gear you r going to, but he seemed like he was not hitting the right numbers. But either way let's say he was. I wish they would do one with out shifting just to see If there's any difference. And those numbers that I know of are all stock numbers. And 5500 is too high now with it being modded. I don't know if there's an adjustment then for that but I've never seen numbers actually for modded all the numbers I've ever seen were for stock. Since depending on how you made adjustments with your mods TCU tune JB4 whatever you do that would change the power band and shift points. I have a 22 scorpion stinger 100% stock and I do 4.4 60s and 12.1 quarter mile time so I don't know how a mighty g70 had that slow of a quarter mile time or how the BMW had a 3.6
0 to 60 and didn't get out of the 12s. That is impossible to me then I don't know if the g70 had traction control completely off. I doubt it cuz he wasn't doing a true launch mode but if he was and if you're just a hair late and you hit red line it bounces it off the rev limiter Well I'm racing from a dig. I usually just let the car shift because of that very reason or you have the problem in first where you can hook up and you almost have to shift right away like instantly. Or you're going to bounce off that rev limiter before you get a second now this is all just when you have full trashy control and stability off and you have to do the shifting. Once you press that paddle it will not upshift at least in the stinger it won't. I'm assuming the g70 is the same since it's exactly the same drive train
4.4 0-60 with a 12.1 1/4 mile makes no sense. That means ur spinning off the line or just super slow, then pick up insane speed suddenly to make it up.
As someone who owned a stock Stinger GT1 AWD, it does not do 12.1s stock!! Mine did 12.8-12.9s.
@@DMCarReviews So I have the 22. I'm telling you they are completely different than the other models. I'll see you if I can post my draggy times and post the dyno now it wasn't my card. I got dynoed but it was another scorpion that had no mods done to it and I'm not sure if the dyno runs high but it had supposedly 510 torque 430hp. And I have problems with the dry he validating runs where I do them. No cops can hide. I let traffic get what I think it's a good distance away but I end up catching up half the time so I end up having a coast or breaking a little bit. Now I did cap my recirculating hoses to give the blow-off sound. That's the only thing I did other than stock and I think that actually hurts me so I do have a slight hesitation off the line but then it hits hard. And I've done faster than a 4.4 0 to 60 also. I don't understand why draggy invalidates in incline over one degree. The incline hurts you. I understand the decline being invalidated but why does it invalidate inclines My fastest 0 to 60 was a 4.18 and then the 1 ft roll out how the core companies do it. I was a 3.93 now it was somewhere around 10 to 12° f out that particular run and when I start my times I am on the shoulder. So there is gravel mine's all-wheel drive. But I still can easily spend a tires. I'm telling you unless you drove the 22 and like I said mine's a scorpion. I don't think there's any added power but it is just different. The times I get older models need to do several mods and if you all look at other scorpions that have the same mods, they're in the high 10s 1/4 and mid threes consistently. I would have to drive an older stinger to see how they feel different. But if you look up twin turbo TH-cam page, the one guy that races the stinger on there hangs with a tuned rs5 and he has mods on his stinger. He has the tribute edition which is the same thing as mine except they have alcantara inside which I don't like. Anyways, with the scorpion model only the Canadians got the alcantara. I just don't like the look. I know my times people can deny me all they want that those aren't possible. So what would a 4.4 0 to 60 equate to in a quarter mile My other vehicle a 2010 Acura tl all-wheel drive which supposedly only has 60 less horsepower and 100 less foot pounds of torque. My best best time was a 5.2 0 to 60 with a quarter mile. It was 13.9 And I got that on an extremely cold day. Otherwise it would be around high 5s in that vehicle was extremely fast and I didn't lose to anything up until the last couple years. Somewhere around 2019 cuz he started having altimas that had 280 horsepower and weighed 7 to 800 lb less So like I said, unless you drove a 22 GT2 scorpion, I'm assuming the regular GT2s are the same. They claimed there's no performance difference, but the only dyno I have is another scorpion that's in the area
You need to a lap3 tuned g70 on here
You didnt list weight or torque?
Do you get sponsored by any car manufacturers or any companies in the car, business or sponsorships at all other than the commercials you do or the promotions? If so, would you be able to list all of them? And even if you do get sponsored myself, I'm not saying you're doing anything to make one look better than the other cuz there's a lot of variables that take place but it would just help to know. Cuz I could see a lot of people watching what car they want to go get, especially if they're stuck between several different types of cars
It is not possible to be sponsored by any automaker to film these videos. They only sponsor fashion influencers or travel or lifestyle. The term used in this case is “unbiased review” hence why they wouldn’t pay me for any review. I have an agreement with them where they offer no financial compensation. In fact I pick them up myself and pay for the gas myself. Cheers
@@SamCarLegion what about them blackballing you in a way where if you get a car to use? I don't know if you ever get cars from dealerships to use those after all the people that bring them but let's say it doesn't do well. Do you have a hard time getting another vehicle to do another race with?
G70 is like the Stinger and should do easely 12.9 - 12.7 in stock form.
I owned a JB4 modded G70 3.3t. The tranny is not great , it holds the car back. I sold it after 2 years because of issues and dealers were terrible (Hyundai service centers)
My co worker owns a M340i, it’s on another level. That B58 and ZF8 is amazing. I wish I would’ve spent the extra cash for the M340i or M240i
JB4 is a horrible alternative to a REAL tune, horrible. Drivability is horrible as it interpretes signals and passes them on. A real tune has far superior drivability and smoothness, and more power.
I would like to see a tuned Cadillac XTS V with AWD in this race.
Apples and oranges comparison. The M340i is about $10K more expensive than the G70. Also the BMW has an actual tune, while the JB4 is a piggyback and not an actual tune. Not a fair comparison at all. M340i also makes much more power than the 382HP that is advertised. Fun to watch either way.
A stage 2 M340i should be doing around 11s on the 1/4 mile. I saw an X3 M40i on a stage 2 running an 11.1s. The 1/4 times in this video are close to a stock M340i.
Agreed.
Nice races. That BMW had the power and legs to take the wins but it was close. Not sure what happened since you did the first race and then some other guy ended up in the BMW. 🤔
Times seem off my m440i with just jb4 and running e30 ran 11.4 at 121. Stock 12.1. With a real tune the exhaust this m340 should be way faster.
Might be track or something. A lozic TCU with a jb4 or ecu tune combo should be anywhere from 11.5 to 12.0. I would also expect a m340 with any tune whatsoever to be a 11sec car
Yeah it should be in the lower 11s
Not bad M340 3.61s 0 to 60mph my RWD f83 m4 convertible did a 3.67sec on Michelin ps4s tires
50 Hp more for the G70 and I think it would be a close race. It´s really not easy to beat a BMW.
You already know it's not a 50hp difference. The b58 is 382 on paper, but really it's more like 430-450hp. With a jb4 and those aftermarket parts, it's really more at 550+hp, especially with a tcu tune. Definitely the g70 was only making 425hp barely touching 450 with stage 1 jb4. Although I have seen some g70 and stingers making 400hp stock vs 368hp on paper numbers in dyno.
@@kuvyoghmoobamelica6883 430 - 450 HP, damn what are you smoking 😂😂😂
@@alengreen589bro is on that hard rock 😂😂😂😂
@@kuvyoghmoobamelica6883Try 380 whp - 400 whp never 450
@@alengreen589 You two are too young to know. BMW underrates their cars. 382hp is on paper. When technically its really actually 430-450hp at the crank. Go do some research.
Genesis looks so much better than bmw
Hyundai🔥🔥🔥
@@layne4376 I'm guessing you've owned both the g70 and the m340i already to know?
@@layne4376Nope. Drives nothing like an Altima 😂😂
Not a chance lol but of course looks are subjective
@@layne4376 I honestly think it's just because of the fake 382hp that they advertise but then again, if you factor in that, the m340i is technically $10+k more expensive than a fully loaded g70.
M340i 🔥🔥✈️
2023 C63 S VS G80 M3 Competition PLEASE!!
He looks so happy 😂
Sam, I ❤the channel, but I am going to comment this on every video until you change....
Please do not start your roll races from a specific gear, but rather whatever gear works BEST for that particular car. Torque curves, transmission ratios, and final drive ratios ALL matter, and no two cars are alike. Arbitrarily starting in a specific gear for both cars can severely handicap one car vs the other and not give a true result.
Overall you're doing great, but you really need change the way you do your roll races.
You can’t do that. Hard to explain it, but would be totally unfair
@@SamCarLegion Im sorry but, unless there's something that I am unaware of regarding the location of where you're doing your videos, I disagree. What is unfair is starting a roll race in a gear where the car is not at or near its peak TQ.
As an owner of a GT350, I know that if I had to start a 32 mph roll in second gear, I'd be eaten alive by several mid level mundane daily drivers. Your SS 1LE vs M2 video is a great example. With the 1LE being Chevy's version of the 350, that one really drives home the point for me.
Otherwise, keep up the good work. You've got a great format for your videos.
You can’t make it fair when you believe that cars will do better at certain gear without exactly knowing what the power level is at that gear. If one car is better at 1st gear but the power output is 85 - but then the second car is in 2nd gear for better out, but the output is only 78%, how do you make that fair? We don’t have an actual meter to measure that. So the fair test is to put them at equal gear and have them perform at that level. Thats the entire point of a drag race.
@@SamCarLegion Im sorry, but I still don't see it that way....for the roll races. The drag race is different as you're obviously starting in 1st.
Anyhow, it's all good. Keep on making good videos.
@@SamCarLegion That doesn't make any sense Sam. If you know the torque curve for your car then you know what gear is best for a given speed. Even without knowing the exact torque curve all you have to do is drive the car and send it a few times and boom you know which gear is giving you a better launch from a given speed. It's not rocket science, it's either faster or it's not.
And "equal gear" is NOT the point of a roll race. It's "equal speed".
Ill take the cost savings on the G70 anyday! 🙌
love them both but why did the G70 driver keep shifting the gears himself in all the races
Yeah he kept short shifting also
@@iPadGameWalkthrough A lot of people noticed this (comment section) and TBH I have seen some other shadiness coming from this channel whenever the G70 is involved. I'm pretty sure they fabricate their races to have a specific result, they try to hide it in one fashion or another but the keen eyed viewer or owner of the G70 always notices it. This just once again confirms my suspicions.
I find it humorous how people think these two cars are in the same class.
I find it humorous that you think they aren't, Why because the engine/tranny combo is barely better? The interior of the G70 is far above that BMW and in fact most of it is. Have you owned both or even one LOL I have both so try your Logo chasing elsewhere and newsflash the man that made the M Series what it is runs Genesis and eventually it will finish the job it started to take the top spot. Now come back with all your little posts about how is handles and whatever else you can repeat but they mean zero. G70 is nicer inside and I will say they are both nice outside but soon it will be 100%. I own both and the BMW only has a better engine and tranny that is it.
The G70 is pretty and fast but it sounds like a vacuum cleaner when revving.
do a Lap3 tuned G70
Why did Sam let his son drive in the last few races ?
😂😂😂
im no expert but the g70 guy was shifting really early consistently
The race was over before it began and no Sam that race was not close since the bmw was clearly walking that G70.
I suggest that you need to change the type of cars you are racing, it started to get boring
To you
How about you stop watching the videos altogether instead ?
@@_Ambition124 did anyone ask you about your opinion? I didn't think so either
@@supra320hp who cares who asked and didn't ask ? What are you going to do about it ?
@@_Ambition124 how about we see what are you going to do about it 😂
Go seek attention somewhere else Boy
About 1-2 bus length and same said very close lmao 🤣
More like 2-3 cars which is close lol
g70 was short shifting so much😂
bmw will always take the cake that’s forsure but in this race the people driving the g70 looked like they were shifting abit early. either way woulda lost but woulda been closer with the proper shifting
G70 needs a driver mod, the JB4 isn’t a real tune. Get a G70 with a real tune and run it back.
Lap3 ecu is the only way….
Good for breakfast 🍳
M340i did the 1/4 mile time in 12.06 with 480bhp? Seems very slow
It is the g70 with a lap3 tune (or any ACTUAL tune) can do a 1/4 in 10.8 wouldve smoked this audi if they gave it the same tune 😂😂
@@user-kb8zb1gj6m No effing way. I do an 11.8 in my Audi S6 with 550hp and 580 lbft. 10.8 will take a lot more than 450 hp.
@datsuntoyy incorrect plenty of videos on TH-cam record is actually at 10.7 seconds with a lap3 tune not sure how much hp they had just know there wasn't any serious modifications hell they didn't even do any weight reduction to get that time could probably shave off at least .1-2 seconds if they had.
@@user-kb8zb1gj6m You believe everything you see on TH-cam. Use a little bit of common sense. I have 550hp in about the same weight car and I'm at 11.8 and people often don't believe mine is that quick.
@datsuntoyy Common sense dictates that the video I've seen on TH-cam with my own eyes is more reliable than what some nobody tells me in a comment section At the very least. I know that he has a car and went to the drag strip I have no idea if you even own the car you're claiming as I've never seen it why would I believe you? Over a reputable company? 😂 no one doubts drag verified times.
Never start with a roll race 😢
Firstly, this is a horrible mismatch because the BMW has a superior tune, an additional TCU tune, and downpipes(significant power adder) whilst the Genesis lacks all of these. Pathetic
Secondly, before the mindless BMW fans slather the comment section with BMW's fluids, the cheapest m340i's in the country are $62K, whilst the cheapest Genesis g70 3.3t's are $49K. Both are averaged prices(meaning they're not the very lowest price but the first frequently low price) thats a significant gap and of course, the Genesis has more standard equipment as far as options go. M340i is a brilliant car, as is the G70(it kept up surprisingly well given the engine, price, and modding disadvantages) but its not at all one sided like people will fool you into believing. Bost impressive showing here was the G70, objectively.
This comment may be buried under, "BMW ez win destruction always" with like 20 likes lol. Shows the state of this channels comment section.
Haha, I'm glad you left this comment, you saved me the hassle. Your analysis is spot on.
M340i laughs in B58…
@@supitklaughs in being significantly more expensive and barely putting a gap on the G70 that had shit mods in comparison, shocking
It's too bad the G70 is getting discontinued. RIP 🙏
Even if it was being discontinued, I'm 100% sure, they are coming out with a 2 door sports car that will replace the g70. Just watch.
@@kuvyoghmoobamelica6883the G70 is a sedan. A coupe wouldn't exactly be a "replacement".
@@TheBreakfastLover There's no need for an exact replacement. Remember when they had the Hyundai Genesis 3.8? That was a 2 door.
@@kuvyoghmoobamelica6883 and that was discontinued without a direct replacement. While the Hyundai Genesis sedan was replaced by the G80 (also a sedan).
@@TheBreakfastLover No, they discontinued to make Genesis a brand instead of a model. Not only that, Genesis is still really new. Have you not seen them new cars Hyundai and Kia are making? Most definitely a sports car is coming to Genesis line up.
Oof, we all know who’s the winner is going to be lol
B58 mighty strong
gotta put a new driver in the genesis cus they keep baby shifting
Haven't watched but M340 wins ...better bring a Porsche out 😂
No actually if they would have given the Genesis an actual tune like they gave the BMW and stop Shifting the paddles with their meat pads letting the car shift themselves the outcome most likley would've been different 😂😂
Damn the driver is so small I thought it was a minor driving lol…
That 0-60 time doesn't make sense for G70 lol. I have a heavier GT2 and run 3.56 0-60 with my tune..Great race tho
G70 needs an actual ECU tune and downpipes.
Someone tell the kid to move seat closer to the steering wheel. You don’t drive with your arms extended all the way. They need to be bent.
Scuse me, but bmw owner have driver licence? I'm asking because except formula 1 where steering had VERY small amout of degrees lock to lock, in ANY kind of motorsport is not useful such driving position, more than that.. is even LETHAL position for handling at high speed or for emergency maneuvres.
Shifting way too soon on the G70... should've let the car do it instead..
That g70 is tuned well.
With lap3 ecu and dp it would’ve been tuned well but jb4 doesn’t do much on these cars
its just jb4 lol needs proper tune
@@user-mc2kk8yf5z most of the cars I’ve seen with so called proper tunes end up shitting themselves. I’m sure he’ll be able to drive this bad boy home lol
yes thats what iv heard also, i wonder how much hp a stock redsport block and tranny can take?@@kawailauaelani
Why does that guy look so little 😂
because he's little.
Beef fiddy 8
easy win for the m340.
not by much😂 for 20 grand more
@@alleneubeltofficial The bmw is better on every point. So….. 🤷🏽♂️
@@rinodoog Not the interior or the exterior just the tranny and engine. The M Series guy is now at Genesis so that will also change soon. I have both and sorry but the interior or the G70 is way nicer, not close.
한국의 도로위에서는 g70 앞에서 모두 겸손 해집니다(🚓
How are you getting times cuz none of this makes sense here several problems with these numbers. The g70 was 0.61 seconds slower to 60 by the time they got to the quarter mile was only 0.42. as far as I saw, the BMW is pulling away from the g70 now it's not a lot but at no time is the g70 evening that out and stopping the BMW from pulling away. I have a Kia stinger scorpion mine's 100% stock I do on average a 4.4 0-60. I've hit a 3.9 when it was 15° f. My quarter mile time is 12.01 faster than both of The times these cars achieved. I don't understand how a 3.6 0 to 60 only gets you a 12.06 quarter mile. That makes zero sense. That should be the mid 11s at worst a 3.6. 0-60 and is that with one foot of roll out or is that a standing 0 to 60 time that'll matter a little bit but still let's say that's a one foot roll out. You're still talking sub 4 second for the BMW there's zero chance a car that does a sub 4 second zero 60 will be in the 12s in a quarter mile. It just wouldn't happen unless it's geared completely wrong but it's not the case here. And the g70 should have been basically right at 12 if not in the high 11s. You should have them do a race also. That's timed with them not shifting cuz it look like the guy in the g70 was shifting way too early. Like I said I have a stinger And as far as I know, stinger and a g70 both drivetrain wise are exactly the same and then they're tuned on top of it. How did it g70 tuned with all that only do a 12.48 quarter? I don't care if it was a 90° day out there. I would still be in the mid-12 if not a little lower and I'm 100% stuck. Are they going up a slight incline or is it 100% flat? And if they're dragging times can you post those?
Here's what you have to look at. This BMW is being challenged by a Hyundai product and it was a close race. Considering how long BMW has been around and supposedly known for such ingenuity. I think in a way, Genesis won.
Yup that m340i is not tuned well. Im thinking more like 450 hp. Those numbers are basically what my m240i does stock and my car is far faster with a jb4
My m340 gets 3.5 0-60 and 11.8 1/4 without the trans tune and a JB4 with a locked DME. They aren't driving it properly or something wrong with the car.
All conditions are different. So many things can factor tenths of a second including tires
@@stefanomarcellino6701 When I ran that time the rain was drying up there was a flood few hours ago on a bad surface with 225 tires all season run flats. No worse condition then that unless were talking rain or snow.
@@LB-sh7qt yup, mine was on dirty pavement too and run with a slight incline (+0.5%). Somethings wrong with that jb4.
I'm not sure if the numbers posted for the G70 are a true reflection of the car with its current mods, but as a owner of a 2020 M340ixdrive, it does seem like it should have posted faster times and I believe it is that neither Sam or the owner were using launch control or at least not using it properly. The m340i launches way harder and would have shaved off time.
G70 isn't really full tune like the BMW is and was that far behind it.. G70 was shifting a little early should of raced and let the car shift its self. I say that's really good for a KIA engine
The G70 driver is shifting way too early ! In full auto he would have been much quicker !
BMW is always cheating on the number of HP 🤣
So maybe y’all should run this again except both should be making 500 or 450 otherwise it’s fucking stupid
Why does the Korean car sound like a kazoo 😂
Have you even heard one in real life? It sounds amazing face to face. You do realize camera mics does muffle sounds.
@@kuvyoghmoobamelica6883 if it sounds like a duck, quacks like a duck even on a mic, it’s not going to be a damn lion in real life. Gtfoh 🤣
@@Bimmer_Bill Actually it's quite nice. You don't wake up your damn neighbors after a long cruise at night coming home.
@@kuvyoghmoobamelica6883 subjective. Your car, it’s great you like it. I’ll take the b58 all day, all night long. 🤷♂️
@@Bimmer_Bill I love both g70/stingers and the m340i. I currently own a 2023 g70 sports prestige 3.3t awd and have an Afe Takeda boxed intake only. I will be using this car as daily driving, and hopefully by next year, I can find a 2021 m2 competition for a good price now that the g87 m2 is out.
Man that B58 is no joke. That Hyundai engine is a joke tho
No I think you are the joke.
Well the driver behind the BMW is better the tune on the BMW is better of course the BMW wins? Give the 70 a real tune and let the cars shift themselves it walks the 340 hyundai engine a joke do your research 🤣🤣
The g70 will last longer. 80-100k on the bmw until check engine lights and whatever else German engineering decides to act up.
Bull, I own a BMW with the b58 and that engine is proven to be much more reliable than any Hyundai motor.
There are guys with way better g70s out there.
G70 could’ve done better he short shift too much
M340i easy eat G70.
Well I mean stock for stock. The m340i does cost close to 70k. The g70 is 55k. With those figures in mind, you get what you paid for.
@@kuvyoghmoobamelica6883 I just picked up my 2023 M340i LCI for $59k before taxes. Got a great deal so it can be had for cheaper
... M340i win..
Get off the paddles!
The Genesis was probably asking why are the cameras here 😂😂😂 you guys lied to me again
Nah, the g70 held its own. BMW lied about its b58 hp figures.
@@kuvyoghmoobamelica6883 I guess if losing by a bus length is considered holding its own then it held its own
@@supersportlt1 If you knew anything about the b58 motor in the 340i, you wouldn't say that. The b58 is 382hp "on paper" which in reality, it's making 420-450hp stock while the g70 makes 368hp stock. That's already almost 100hp down stock vs stock. Now if you factor in tune and aftermarket parts into both cars like in this video, the 340i is definitely near 550hp (remember, bmw lied about hp figures) while the g70 is about 425hp, barely touching 450hp. It being down 100+ hp, and more weight, it didn't lose by much.
@@kuvyoghmoobamelica6883I remember seeing a dyno sheet on some forum that said they make around 380 -400 wheel stock .
@@anaccount7923 You mean for the m340i? Yes I've seen a stock supra making 380whp at the dyno in person. Pretty much same motor in the 340i.
Im here to see the genesis lose hard, the fact that the genesis didn't beat c43 ain't no way is gonna beat the bmw
theirs a 30-70 hp difference on top of not having an actual tune but its a different race with the same hp and same mods
@@jaybandzz9963 even without the tune the m340I is still gonna win because the standard m340I beat the c43 and the standard c43 beat the standard genesis(what I mean by standard is without any kinda tune)
@@abbasabdullahi5363Well price difference if you're talking stock to stock. 340i is near 70k, while the g70 is 55k ish for sports prestige trim. Cant expect a 55k car to beat a 70k car. Stage 1 JB4 is good a mild tune over stock.
@@kuvyoghmoobamelica6883 well I never said I was expecting the genesis to win because I'm aware of the price difference I said I came to watch the genesis lose.
@@abbasabdullahi5363 Nah you're just a hater. Can't hate a car that you never owned. I get it if you're gonna be stereotypical against Mustangs and Camaros but we already know they are shitty cars but when you go against a car you don't even know or owned, you're just a hater. The g70/stinger and the 340i are really good cars and has soo much potential to make high hp with mild upgrades. Love both cars.
As much as I love the G70! It hasn’t beaten a M340i in any race no matter if it’s tuned, stock or otherwise. The M340i is just a masterpiece of driving machinery. Maybe if Hennessy Performance has a true tune for the Genesis it’ll stand a legit chance.
It would've been a much closer race if the Genesis driver didn't short shift in every race
LMAO, you should spend 30 minutes looking up the history of John Hennessey. He's NOT a friend to the tuning community. If you want to see the G70 have a fair shot against the M340i, it should have the same mods, particularly a real ECU and TCU tune like LAP3. It may not win, but it would be a hell of a lot closer.
@@TallTimbersUSA Aw man don't bring context into the convo that actually makes sense, people will get mad, lol.
So since last year when you did your facelift G70 videos, it's pretty clear you are short shifting the G70 and you continue to do so. Looking at the comment section it's obvious I'm not the only one who is noticing this. Just wondering when you will have the balls to admit you're being paid by BMW or you have some incentive because you aren't fooling anyone, aside from BMW fans.
The issue is if you do that race 100 times that BMW won’t not only win 100 times it’ll be the one still running
Whooped 😂
Bs after bs my genny destroyed 340s all day long
Even stock m340i would have.
No it wouldn't have, on that drag strip against the G70 stage 1 it would've lost buddy.
Are you using magazine drag strip times goofy?
@@roboticvenom1935it’d be close. My g42 m240i ran 3.8 and 12.2 bone stock not even fully broken in and it’s only slightly lighter than the m340i. A properly tuned m340i should be a 10 second car or close to it.
My stock 2021 runs 3.9 but on that drag strip, who knows, so you have a valid point.
@@Bimmer_Bill If your car hit 10.9 seconds, it doesn't mean your car is a 10second car. Technically it's a 11 second car lol. It's not 10 second car until it's below 10.5 sec.
lol that's 911 turbo territory@@Bimmer_Bill
Terrible launch on the g70. I have one with lap 3 ecu tcu, I would have won.
Yea there are lap3 tunes getting fkn 3.14 0-60s and 10.8 1/4 audi wouldve got smoked with anbactual tune 😂😂
@@user-kb8zb1gj6mouta control i can't imagine primarys and cpi
My man in the BMW needs to sit closer or a booster seat 😅😅
LOL
캬 역시 우주명차 m340i
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When was the last time an Asian car beat BMW? Don’t even try to