To explain the ending: Jaiden got some horrible luck when attempting the elite four, losing half her team before fighting Flint. Because her remaining team members were all weak to Flint's fire types, she would have lost. However, her chat allowed her to retry the Elite Four battle since it was her birthday.
She was also having SUPER bad luck with the amount of crits too. I love the way she worked it in to the story. So creative and a testament to her skills as an animator and artist!
@@amuzik13 yes yes very true. the amount of bad luck she had this run is just so sad. but thems the breaks i guess. pokemon be like that sometimes. you use thunder, you miss 5 times in a row. the enemy uses thunder, they hit 5 times in a row. You are confused, you hit yourself 3 times in a row. the enemy is confused and never hits themselves and it wears off. Never fails.
When Jaiden was having those flashbacks it was showing that she lost to the elite four. I believe it was her birthday and her chat said she deserved a second chance so she fought them a second time and won.
OKAY! Here's the explanation I alluded to in your first Jaiden reaction. At 16:23, when Jaiden was split in two, that was her playthrough diverting into two separate paths. Starting at 19:04, when Jaiden touches the starting points of the Elite 4 fights, the little glitches/flashes are showing what happened during her first playthrough, which she was doing on stream on her birthday. They wiped her entire team, but because of the circumstances of it being her birthday and just really poor luck with getting crit-hit constantly, the stream audience pretty much unanimously rallied for her to take a second shot at the E4 fights. That's what we see as the "canon" playthrough presented in the video. However, at the end, she felt she didn't deserve the win because she didn't "stay true" to the spirit of the Nuzlocke by getting a second attempt. Honestly, I side with her stream audience in letting her have that second chance, and the way she presented it instead of sweeping it under the rug was REALLY compelling storytelling.
That’s really the only issue I have with this. It just seems awkward if you don’t know the meaning behind it (which I didn’t the first time I saw this).
yea, and a lot of content creators in the nuzlocke community also applauded her for her way of storytelling what had happened. that makes it even better in my opinion.
it kind of is canon when you think about how Pokemon has kind of leaned on the idea of Multiverse theory with events of the Delta story in ORAS and the like. so, technically: Jaiden did and didn't win.
Just so you know Kyle, most people who stream or Let's Play their Nuzlockes are actually playing them on their PCs using emulators. This makes it way easier to stream because of all the extra things an emulator can do (such as moving the screens around to where you want, or just the simple benefit of looking at the game on a bigger screen). It's not easy to record natural DS footage; I'm pretty sure you used to be able to install something called a Capture Card to do so, but since emulating is so much easier for most people, I think the Capture Cards are a lot harder to get nowadays.
@@theduckgoesmoo their are tons of streamers who do it. I doubt anything bad will happen since emulators have been around for years and Nintendo hasn't really done much about it
@@theduckgoesmoo Nintendo dont like people downloading roms, but if you own a rom, they have no way of knowing if it was downloaded or if you dumped it yourself. Dumping a rom is totally legal. As such playing a rom on an emulator is also perfectly legal. Nintendo dont like it but they also cant do shit about it
@@theduckgoesmoo They can't legally do anything unless they can prove that a game was downloaded illegally, and it is NEVER worth the legal fees to attempt to do that anyway. So, I've never seen anyone DMCA'd for this issue. Emulators themselves are perfectly legal as well; the only grey area is if the game was pirated itself. Still, those who still don't like pirating usually at least say "see here, I do legally own a physical copy" or something like that. Obviously not everyone, but it's what some do. Not saying you have to do any of this if you don't want to, of course. But this is definitely what the vast majority of people playing old Pokemon games on video do nowadays; you can even emulate the 3DS games with a decent computer.
7:33 “Fighting’s really good against Psychic, isn’t it?” The exact opposite, really. Also; Pursuit is a Dark Type move that’ll hit the Pokémon before it gets the chance to switch.
7:30 Actually it's Psychic that's good against Fighting. But what happened was the Buizel used Pursuit. A Dark move that will still hit before you switch and does extra damage if you tried 10:50 Nope. It's Water/Flying
Random facts that you may want to know 1. Normally in Nuzlockes there’s a thing called Dupes Clause. This is a bonus rule where you don’t have to catch a Pokémon that’s either the same species or from the same family as a Pokémon you’ve previously caught. So if you caught a Bidoof as your first encounter and later on found another Bidoof as your new encounter, you can choose to not catch the Bidoof and get a reroll in the grass for something else. Jaiden could have done that for Wooper and Quagsire but chose not to, which I find interesting. 2. Most players abide by the rule that the Nuzlocke doesn’t begin until you get your first Pokeballs. This is so that if your singular starter faints to a freak accident involving a Critical Hit, you can keep playing normally until you can gain a new party member. If your starter dies after gaining Pokeballs but before catching a new member, you white out. In Nuzlocke rules, whiting out is a flat game over, run’s dead. Alternatively if you have 6 Pokémon on you and a few in your PC after you white out, some would say it’s fine to ditch your original six that died and use your leftover Pokémon in the PC and try to keep playing. Nuzlockes really are built on how the player them self wants to play. 3. Zubat is not good. Golbat is okay but not good. Crobat however is very very good. Extremely fast with a super high Attack stat, having access to miles like Aerial Ace and Cross Poison can make Crobat a strong sweeper. The only downside is actually obtaining the thing. Golbat can evolve when it gains enough Friendship points with you. You can increase a Pokémon’s friendship by walking with it, sending it to do battle, gaining levels, and various other ways that vary depending on which game you’re playing. This means you can theoretically get a Crobat fairly quickly and then murder everybody. Good Pokémon. 4. Death Fodder is a very common tactic in Nuzlockes. Preemptively bringing in a Pokémon you know you won’t use or has little legitimate value to a tough fight can ensure the survival of your primary team members. As depressing as that can be. Also, Onix sucks. Pretty good defences, but it has an incredibly low Attack stat. Onix’s Attack is 45. Oddish has an Attack of 50. Just let that sink in. 4. 20:33 Spiritomb and Sableye had zero weaknesses before Generation 6 when Fairy was introduced. Dark is weak to Fighting and Ghost is weak to Dark and Ghost. Ghost negates Dark’s fighting weakness and becomes immune to it while Dark turns Ghost’s weakness to Dark and Ghost into neutral damage. Dark is now also weak to Fairy, so now these two Pokémon have one weakness.
19:07 If you decide to do a nuzlocke, you can decide for yourself if you want to use legendaries or not. The basic rules consists of nicknaming each pokemon, if faints it dies, and only catching the 1st pokemon in each route. Alot of the additional rules are open for the player to decide based on their skillset. There's no judgement in any way you play
@@theduckgoesmoo I used a Suicune in my Crystal Nuzlocke and it wasn't easy to catch without a masterball and not having my mon die. So I felt the encounter was earned
Before watching Jaiden's next, and final, nuzlocke video I would suggest watching Alpharad's nuzlockes so you know his history with them. Like someone once said somewhere "knowledge is power"
7:48 The scrolling text at the bottom the screen is amazing. "Local weirdo finds slug on the side of the road, legally adopts it and whole-heartedly considers it 'her child'.
something to note: jaiden ending up failing this nuzlocke on her birthday if i recall but her chat insisted that she get another shot at it and she was able to get the victory against cynthia in the runback her team was 100% capable of running the final gaunlet of the elite four as she proved but nuzlocke's don't care if your team is capable. you either get it on the first shot or not at all i don't know if she's gone back to the game to run the whole thing back and secure the actual nuzlocke win
Cynthia's Garchomp is terrifying. Especially pre Fairy type, so it has one less weakness. The only tougher boss Pokemon I can think of Ultra Necrozma, but that's a legendary with boosted stats and a good moveset.
Even after fairy types Cynthia's Garchomp is terrifying because in BDSP it was actually EV trained and holding a yache berry. The main reason it didn't feel like the final boss it was in Platinum was that almost everyone knew what was coming... and the friendship mechanic was a bit too overbearing.
If your starter dies before you catch another pokemon standard rules are you lose, some have a ruleset that says the nuzlocke does not start until you have access to pokeballs
Which only makes sense, considering how long some of those openings are. If I were to restart after the first five minutes of actual play, it might be 30 minutes before I get to actually play again.
Pursuit is a dark type move, and since Kirlia was a pure psychic type before obtaining it's Fairy type in Gen 6 (Pokemon X and Y.) I might as well address this too, Gyarados isn't a dragon type, it's water/flying (as weird as it seems.)
3:01 If a Starter faints, and you’ve already obtained pokeballs and the pokedex, that’s game over for your Nuzlocke. 7:36 Pursuit is a dark type move that does double damage to a target that attempts to switch up. Kirlia’s naturally weak to dark moves so it really had no chance of getting out of that. 10:24 Froslass is just as terrifying as Jaiden depicts it here. Snow Cloak is an ability it has that gives it (I think) 30% more evasion, so you risk not hitting it. And if it boosts it’s evasion even more with Double Team, or Ominous Wind (a move that can boost all of your stats), it can sweep entire teams under the right conditions. 10:58 Abomasnow is an Ice and Grass type, so Fire Blast being a 4x effective move ideally would have beaten it. Unfortunately, Gyarados doesn’t have a high enough Special Attack stat (the stat that determines the effectiveness of long-ranged moves), so it was just shy of getting that kill in one hit. 11:29 As cold as it was on Jaiden’s part (pun intended), using an encounter you don’t want on your team as death fodder is a decent strategy if you need to prepare a different Pokémon to take out another. 12:56 Unless Jaiden’s got a DS or 3DS with a capture card to stream directly from a handheld console, it might’ve been an emulator. Not sure which though. 14:04 Mars and Jupiter’s Golbats have Giga Drain to counter rock and ground types that might normally pose a threat. 15:28 This was something I didn’t think Jaiden would do initially. Some people who’ve done Nuzlockes over the years incorporated additional rules, like a “dupes clause,” a duplicate clause. This means that if you’ve caught a Pokémon of an evolutionary line and it dies, you’re also not allowed to use any other member from its evolutions either. This would mean since “Lol the Quagsire” died, she wouldn’t be allowed to use “Oops the Wooper. Again though, it’s not a mandatory clause if you didn’t include it at the very beginning. There are other clauses that one can incorporate, like not being allowed to heal at Pokémon Centers or use not allowed to use items. There’s another one where if all your Pokémon in one team die, you could choose to go back to your PC box, put all the dead mons in their grave, and then make a new team from any remaining encounters you still have. You could then keep doing this until you run out of encounters, and then it would be considered game over. Also, since it’s a Nuzlocke, any items that you get that would normally be allowed to revive a Pokémon (revives, Max revives, revival herbs, Sacred Ash) can be sold for decent cash, since you’re obviously not allowed to bring back “dead” Pokémon. On another note, you were probably told about this already, but Jaiden had terrible luck with her run against the E4. During attempt 1, Colgate the Togekiss got killed by a Stone-Edge crit from Aaron’s Heracross. Whoops the Quagsire and Flakes the Garchomp got killed by Bertha’s Rhyperior, which used Avalanche, a powerful ice type move that does double-damage if the user goes second. By the Fire Type User Flint, she only had Torterra, Magnezone and Scizor, 3 Pokémon that are kindling for his team, so she stood no chance at that point. I love the song that she included at the end and in the credits, as it’s a song from a spin-off Pokémon game called, “Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time/Darkness/Sky.” That game is one of the best games in terms of story-telling in pokemon’s history. The song is called, “In the Hands of Fate,” a very melancholy song, and I cry almost every time I hear it. I’m even trying to learn to play it on the piano~
her kirlia got what's called pursuit trapped. how pursuit works, if you switch out, before switching out pursuit hits for double dmg and after that you switch out. but not only is kirlia's def low, it's also weak to dark type attacks which pursuit is
The Elite Four in that region are pretty brutal, and Cynthia is feared for good reason. It's been a long time since I fought them in Diamond, but recently in Shining Pearl they were plain brutal. Especially if you go in not knowing each trainer's types; and even then their Pokemon have moves to compensate for type disadvantages.
Basic of Basic Rules for Nuzlockes are: -Only Catch the First Pokemon you encounter on a route. -Nickname every catch. -Faint = Death I see those as the bare minimum of Nuzlockes. I think this one is kind of a grey area: -Black Out = Game Over, even if you have more usable Pokemon in the PC. (what is the opinion of anyone seeing this comment? I'm curious.) I have seen additional rules and I think some are great additions and some are for the masochists out there or those who really really really want to make their pain excruciating. Such added rules include: -No Potions *no recovery items used except PokeCenter* I tried a Nuzlocke once and I had added these rules to help my beginner try to it: -Repeat Clause: if the first encounter is of a species you already caught *living or dead* you may pass and get a different encounter. -Shiny Clause: because of the Rarity of Shiny Pokemon, catching one is an undeniable urge. BUT you must keep it in the party, regardless of type disadvantages.
20:35 Yup. Both Spiritomb and Sableye have the Ghost/Dark dual typing which, before the introduction of the Fairy type in Pokémon X and Y, had zero weaknesses. This led to a popular hack called the Wondereye/Wondertomb hack where the above Pokémon would be hacked to have Shedinja's signature ability, Wonder Guard, which negates damage from attacks that aren't super effective.
Platinum is my JAM. Play it OFTEN even now. I have the same kind of DS as you but silver. Those things last an eternity and I love the bulky variety. Here are the teams I use. I have a set team for each starter for both Lucas AND Dawn. I am literally pulling out my platinum copies to tell you these teams. Dawn Teams Empoleon, Togekiss, Lopunny, Pachirisu, Roserade, and Mamoswine (yes entirely built from the anime since it was one of the seasons I watched. Namely Kanto, Hoenn, and Sinnoh) Infernape, Altairia, Gastrodon, Gardevoir, Probopass, and Froslass Torterra, Staraptor, Clefable, Mismagius, Lumineon, and Lucario. Lucas Teams are Empoleon, Crobat, Garchomp, Magnezone, Magmortar, and Abomasnow Infernape, Gliscor, Porygon-Z, Weavile, Tangrowth, and Scizor And my favorite and most used team is Torterra, Honchkrow, Gallade, Dusknoir, Milotic, and Electivire. I go OUT OF MY WAY to get some semblance of this team every generation. Electivire especially who is my favorite Pokémon. Yes I’m the kind of guy who doesn’t just spot all 210 Pokémon in the game, but catches each line and evolves them, each form, (yes all Arceus AND Rotom forms as well and yes I will cheat to accomplish that) every cheat for the special event Pokémon to catch all 493 Pokémon (as of that generation)…and no. I somehow have never gotten the black card yet. Come close but that 100 streak in the battle tower is EVIL. And the Frontier brains are NO JOKE. If you play platinum again, Nuzlocke or no, there’s SO much in that game people just don’t do sometimes. CONTESTS are fun. And the remakes actually did quite well ESPECIALLY the awesome gym rematches and the Cynthia battle to end all Cynthia battles. I think she secured herself as #1 in the remake in main series. (Although I hear Legends Arceus has a big one) Jaiden did a WONDERFUL job with this nuzlocke. She did lose her 1st elite four. She had hoped to lose to Cynthia if anywhere for the story and just because Cynthia is meant to be feared. But Aaron and Bertha manhandled her if I recall. No that Elite 4 is not easy. Aaron has all the best bugs and those can be tricky since no one deals with late game bugs in single player. And those beat all your psychic and dark types surprisingly. Bug and Ice are TERRIBLE defensive but VERY fun offensive I think everyone sleeps on. (They do need better resists)
08:40 The playthrough starts becoming a tragedy right around here. 10:33 Most audiences can't help but shed a tear at this point. 13:25 Only those with a heart of stone feel nothing at this juncture.
"I love the breeding stuff. It's how you get a shiny bidoof." I once got a shiny Honedge from breeding while I was trying to breed for competitive battling, with this shiny having adamant nature and max Attack and Speed IVs. Pretty swell.
Those glitchy "alternate realities" towards the end was her various tries at the Elite 4, because her stream told her to retry the attempts. The glitches are the deaths that occured.
20:34 - "It has no weaknesses? What?" Prior to generation 6, the Ghost/Dark typing had no weaknesses. Ghost is weak to ghost and dark, which are both resisted by the dark type, and dark was weak to bug and fighting - ghost resists bug and is immune to fighting. Therefore, no weaknesses. But, in gen 6, the Fairy type came out, ghost didn't resist it, and dark was weak to it. So, the Ghost/Dark typing now has 1 weakness.
Yes, before gen 6 and the introduction of the Fairy type, Ghost/Dark (so Spiritomb and Sableye) had no weaknesses. Outside of Scrappy ability (allows Normal and Fighting moves to hit Ghost types) Pokémon with a Fighting move, which in gen 4, the best option was Kangaskhan with Brick Break or Drain Punch, the only other was Miltank with Brick Break.
Yes, back when Platinum was new, thanks to spiritombs typing, , it had no weaknesses. However once they introduced the fairy type, it gained a weakness to fairy
Currently doing a nuzlocke run on Platinum right now. I've been doing a sort of progression thing were I started with the original Red version and have worked my way up to Platinum. I've beaten Red, Yellow, Crystal, Ruby, and Fire Red so far and the winning team for each game has been immortalized by being moved to Pokemon Home.
"Apparently you can't use legendaries in nuzlockes." Nuzlockes are completely self imposed. If you want to use legendaries, fine go ahead. I personally wouldn't want to because if makes it easy, but all that matters is if its fun for you. Some elitists will probably whine, but ignore them. I personally like to use standard 'hardcore' rules- level caps, no items in battle, set mode, no legendaries, but if you nuzlocke, play how you want. No reason to do it if its not fun for you.
Some other optional rules include "dupes clause" where if you caught something previously and it's your first encounter later you can skip it and catch your next encounter for that area, the choice for gift pokemon on whether they are your encounter for the area you receive them or not. But basically since it's self-imposed rules, you can generally just do whatever you're comfortable with at the time.
Pursuit is a dark move that deals double damage when you try to switch the target on the round that move is used, PLUS Fighting sucks against Psychic, but dark works great against it.
Since this just dropped I'll be the first to explan it: she lost the challenge once. Since it was her birthday AND because it was a loss coming from RNG, the chat voted for her trying again from the start of the elite four. The flashes are her artistic interpretation of the lost run. (Had nothing to do with Giratina, but was a cool plot element for the animation)
Some people don't start the permadeath rules until they get pokeballs for the first time so you don't lose your first and only pokemon straight away, and some people just let themselves lose in 5 minutes
I still find it brilliant that she used Giratina splitting her in two to integrate her failed E4 attempt into the video. Also…To answer your question at 18:20, it DOES actually go pretty hard. I didn’t have much trouble with them in Platinum, but in BD/SP…HOO BOY, they’re actually pretty tough in those games. The VGC-tier AI the Sinnoh Elite Four and Cynthia use in those games really makes a difference
Fun Fact about the Gen 4 games. When the Diamond and Pearl movie trilogy were being released they had limited time event items that allowed players to get Mythical Pokémon (basically Pokémon that are usually only available in events) a Darkrai (starred in the first movie with Time God Dialga and Space God Palkia), Shaymin (starred in the second movie with literal Satan Giratina) and Arceus (third movie with literal God). However despite the third movie being released and the event being coded and completed they never released the item for the event. This means that for over a decade you had to use a cheating device to access Arceus and it was never fixed, instead they remade the event recently in the remakes, which is sad because many prefer Platinum on DS over the remakes due to the remakes having glitches and were stripped of content.
To explain, her chat told her to try the Elite Four a second time after failing the first. First time around, she lost her Togekiss to Aaron's Heracross thanks to the move Stone Edge, THEN Bertha's Rhyperior overpowered her Garchomp and Quagsire, and by the time she made it to Flint, her remaining Pokemon were ALL weak to fire, sooo... yeah, that was a thing. She wasn't even expecting to beat Cynthia on either try.
4:25 To be fair, I understand your skepticism. Onix is intimidating as hell in the anime & comics and IRL would be an absolute nightmare to deal with cuz its a 28-foot snake made of rocks that can breathe paralytic dragonfire (because that is somehow a thing that exists), but in the games its basically useless as anything other than a physical wall until after it evolves.
Yep she originally lost but the stream told her to redo it anyway. So she incorporated it into this unique way into her video that was so god damn emotional
According to some pro nuzlockers like Pokemon Challenges, zubat and magikarp are some of the best common nuzlocke encounters, since gyarados is a strong physical attacker and has intimidate, and crobat is fast, bulky, and has great defensive typing.
Jaiden lost her first run against the Elite Four, but the chat convinced her to give it another try. That’s why she was getting those visions where her Pokémon were dying. It ties back to her encounter with Giratina, which I think is just fantastic storytelling on her part
There's really no universal standard for Nuzlocke rules; everyone goes about it differently. The general rules are: ~ The challenge doesn't begin until you gain the ability to catch Pokemon. (Just be sure you don't lose your starter in between getting Poke Balls and actually catching something.) ~ One encounter per area. If you fail it, you get NOTHING. ~ Nickname everrything. ~ Permadeath, either using a PC box as a graveyard or by just putright releasing the "dead" Pokemon. Anything beyond that is on a per-player basis. Some opt for other restrictions such as legendaries (not every Nuzlocke restricts those, particularly if they're Randomizer games where tou can just casually find Ho-Oh in the grass), item use, gift Pokemon and what have you. They even have different policies for what happens to the series should you lose the challenge (delete the save or just give up on the challenge and play nornally). Jaiden's next (and probably last) one is a unique Nuzlocke challenge called a Soul-Link, where you and your partner's encounters/gifts in the same area are "Linked" (and often given the same nickname to avoid confusion). And if one of your Pokemon dies, so does whichever Pokemon your partner had to correspond to it. They also added an extra restriction to that particular run where between Jaiden and her partner, no two Pokemon in active use could have the same PRIMARY type (if the Pokemon had two types, only the first one matters), but to be honest I'm not a fan of that rule. It's a little TOO restricting for my taste.
Even Jan agrees with Jaiden's chat about the second chance because, even though it is not a "true" Nuzlocke, the whole point of playing Poke'mon it to "have fun".
I mentioned this in the soul link video (since I saw that first), but Jan (pronounced Yawn) found out what happened and in response said something akin to this: “There’s the pro nuzlocker in me that says: that’s not a real nuzlocke, you’re supposed to go back and play the game all over. Then there’s the socially adjusted person in me who says: it’s a self imposed challenge of a children’s video game, who gives a shit?” This was a response to the negative comments on Jaiden’s channel regarding losing a nuzlocke and then doing the elite four again.
Basically, the "Glitches" are a refrence to Jaiden's first attempt at the Elite Four, she died on Flint before Twitch Chat said to do a redo (with the same team) because it was Jaiden's Birthday.
11:15 This moment is responsible for me having a special place in my heart for Shinx. Dude DID NOT deserve the s****y hand it got dealt due to not being a slug. That animation legit breaks my heart every time I see it.
Gyarados is Water/Flying, Pursuit has priority over the opponent switching out and does double damage when this happens, Fighting is weak to Psychic because you know mind over muscle thing.
I don't know if the Shinx she accidentally killed had it, but if it has the Intimidate ability, Shinx is VERY good early game, because it's ability drops the opponent's attack just by sending it into battle. You can use this to make a hard hitting Pokemon like Cranidos or Purugly weaker as soon as you send it out, and then switch into something else to battle it in it's weakened state. You can even keep rotating it like this to make the opponent's Pokemon nearly helpless. Barring critical hits of course.
Ok so, to answer the question you asked about how she was recording her game play. Assuming she wasn't playing on an emulator on her computer, she would have been using a device called a capture card. They cost around $60-$70 if I remember correctly.
So you can use legendaries but it’s just frowned upon in the community cause they’re strong at that point. But what I’ve always thought that if you decide to do a Nuzelocke, you play how you wanna play. Also there’s a kind of “hidden” rule in the community called “Dupes/Species Clause”; basically if you catch a Pokémon on one route and your encounter is the same as the one you caught earlier, you can redo the encounter to get something different. The other version of this is if you catch a Pokémon and then encounter another Pokémon of the same “species” or evolution line, you can get a redo
There are a multitude of different rules that you can choose to follow, the basic nuzlocke rules are as follows: If a pokemon faints you can't use it again You can only catch 1 pokemon per new area And you must nickname all caught pokemon Any other rules are self imposed, you can choose to use legendaries if you want. You can use healing items if you want.
I do 100% support doing a reaction to her 2-player Nuzlocke. I probably like that video the best just for the insanity of that run. 19:47 Sadly, as others have already pointed out, she kinda did lose. She didn't FULLY lose since she still had Pokémon in the box she could use. But she did admit defeat for the run when she lost half the team to the second Elite. Her chat supported her doing a re-do just to finish the run and see if she could defeat the Elite 4 and Cynthia. A bit bittersweet. But that's just the nature of Nuzlockes.
7:35 - *Jaiden:* And that's why hate love. This line hits differently, after Jaiden's recent video called "Being Not Straight" - th-cam.com/video/qF1DTK4U1AM/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=JaidenAnimations
...Kyle Gyarados is water flying, it is not dragon there are only 3 gen 1 dragon types and they are of the same evolutionary line! dratini, dragonair and dragonite
@@NamedNameless1 And I never said he was RIGHT, I was explaining why Gyrados has dragon and fire moves despite not being dragon TYPE. He's a dragon, in the LORE.
You need to watch Pokemon challenges videos he did on Jaden's videos. He'll explain what you really need to keep an eye out for in nuzlockes. 19:51 and she did faill it, but she decided to have one reset just to finish it rather than start over for the video. So she talks about how she feels like she really didn't beat this nuzlocke.
19:07 you *can* use legendaries and mythicals if you want to. It's your nuzlocke, your rules. However, many decide not to use them because they can make the fights too easy and it's easy to end up using them for everything so the rest of the team falls behind in levels.
20:31 Spiritomb is Ghost and Dark Type. That combination of types had no weaknesses until the introduction of fairy types in generation 6 (X and Y). Fairy types can also kill Dragon typel like Garchomp. The gen 4 remakes on switch (Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl) have fairy types on the pokemon that were in the original game and received a fairy typing gen 6 and onwards (Like Gardevoir and Togekiss). So if jaiden played the switch versions (this was before they released though), kept Devito the Ralts alive, evolved it into Kirlia and then Gardevoir and kept it until the final battle, She could of had an easier time defeating Spiritomb and Garchomp as she could use Devito and Colgate.
Guess whos back again telling you to watch internet historian if you havent already in your personal time!? "Fall of 76" great starter video if you are just getting into his content
The story goes it was jaden’s birthday when she streamed the elite four. She went in and lost half her team to the second elite four member because she didn’t know the Rhyperior had an ice move. Because it was her birthday chat allowed her to start over.
Kyle: What happends if you started faints? A Very short lived run thats what. Also if you Want to see Birb cuteness at it's finest check out Jaidens's videos Happy Birthday Ari, Ari's Barthday! (Again) and Ari's Birthday Party and new friend.
Been enjoying going thru red version. Good practice. Just found her videos and it inspired me to actually want to try one. Always saw the game variant but never checked out the rules. But after years...yeah its something im interested in
@@theduckgoesmoo I mean, most people forget it's a flying type. There's two ways to remember: If it looks like a dragon it's not a dragon. And, if the pokémon is from Gen 1 and its a game before X&Y, it's not a dragon.
"Fighting is really good against Psychic isn't it?" Firstly, no, it isn't. It's weak to Psychic. Second, Pursuit is a Dark type move, which IS good against Psychic, that deals double damage if the target Pokemon is being swapped out. So it was pretty much an instant kill for Kirlia. "Gyarados isn't a Water type" Water/Flying my dude. Just has some good type coverage moves like Flamethrower, Thunderbolt, Earthquake, Ice Beam, Stone Edge, Power Whip, and Dragon Pulse. "It has no weakness!?" Spiritomb is a Ghost/Dark type, a type combination that, up until Gen 6 introduced the Fairy type, canceled out each others weaknesses. "Speed kills!" except all those Death Battles were it doesn't, right? If you really want to play a nuzlocke but don't have the means to legitimately, then just get an emulator. Until Gamefreak decides to make old games more easily available by putting some ports on the Switch, that's your best option.
So Jacob gets the Onix made of glass that's shattered by an ice punch but Jaidens death fodder Onix loves long enough t make it back to the box. 🎵A song as old as ti~me BS RNG~🎵
How do you record DS games? Well, the official way is to get a "capture cart" for your DS, which allows you to record footage from the handheld to your PC (I assume, never done it myself). The other, easier (read: free) way is to emulate the game and record directly from the emulator.
me as an german watcher: when you said you don't remember ruby (in german rubin) so much, but that there are a few memories of emerald (in german smaragd).. somehow my brain heard "I don't remember rwby so much but have a few memories of emerald" xD
@@theduckgoesmoo they are definitely allowed! It depends on the person though. Some people do what is called a hardcore nuzlocke which has the same base rules but the only difference is that you can only heal outside of battle, so literally you have to know the game inside and out and have little room for error
The problem is her run was destroyed by crits, I would add more but if I do I’ll have to explain what self imposed means and I don’t want to do that. But either way do react to the soul link nuzlocke as she’s stated it would be her last one that she will animate. Anyway keep it up
There was a lot info you got wrong when it came to type matchups, a Pokémon’s typing, and how powerful Pokémon can be against you when you’re not overlevelling (the biggest telling you not knowing how hard Cynthia’s Garchomp is.) So if you really want to do a Nuzlockes, you really gotta know your mechanics if you don’t want an early failed run.
To be fair, Onix has the same Attack stat as a Wurmple and needs to be traded to evolve so… not the best for a Nuzlocke when you have no friends/extra DS to trade with.
If you're going to watch the next one, one thing you should know going into it to add t the amusement: Jaiden is known for having bad luck. Jacob is known for having good luck. May be interesting to have in mind as you watch it
To explain the ending: Jaiden got some horrible luck when attempting the elite four, losing half her team before fighting Flint. Because her remaining team members were all weak to Flint's fire types, she would have lost. However, her chat allowed her to retry the Elite Four battle since it was her birthday.
Ooooh that makes a lot more sense
not to mention this run was Critical Hit hell lol so much bad luck on her end
also makes more content for the after product cause of the split thing.
She was also having SUPER bad luck with the amount of crits too. I love the way she worked it in to the story. So creative and a testament to her skills as an animator and artist!
@@amuzik13 yes yes very true. the amount of bad luck she had this run is just so sad. but thems the breaks i guess. pokemon be like that sometimes.
you use thunder, you miss 5 times in a row.
the enemy uses thunder, they hit 5 times in a row.
You are confused, you hit yourself 3 times in a row. the enemy is confused and never hits themselves and it wears off.
Never fails.
When Jaiden was having those flashbacks it was showing that she lost to the elite four. I believe it was her birthday and her chat said she deserved a second chance so she fought them a second time and won.
Ohhh so that’s what happened. I never really looked up to find out what that was about so I never knew. Now it makes sense.
I also heard that the Elite Four were unfair and kept getting crits on her Pokémon, basically the the game was against her.
@@arkauthor the crit ratio in this game and black and white is so ridicules
@@Shockwave377 I remember struggling so much with the unova bug gym
OKAY! Here's the explanation I alluded to in your first Jaiden reaction. At 16:23, when Jaiden was split in two, that was her playthrough diverting into two separate paths. Starting at 19:04, when Jaiden touches the starting points of the Elite 4 fights, the little glitches/flashes are showing what happened during her first playthrough, which she was doing on stream on her birthday. They wiped her entire team, but because of the circumstances of it being her birthday and just really poor luck with getting crit-hit constantly, the stream audience pretty much unanimously rallied for her to take a second shot at the E4 fights. That's what we see as the "canon" playthrough presented in the video. However, at the end, she felt she didn't deserve the win because she didn't "stay true" to the spirit of the Nuzlocke by getting a second attempt. Honestly, I side with her stream audience in letting her have that second chance, and the way she presented it instead of sweeping it under the rug was REALLY compelling storytelling.
That’s really the only issue I have with this. It just seems awkward if you don’t know the meaning behind it (which I didn’t the first time I saw this).
yea, and a lot of content creators in the nuzlocke community also applauded her for her way of storytelling what had happened. that makes it even better in my opinion.
Oh, so that's what happened. I had assumed it was a case of her getting wiped but I had no idea the circunstances were so drastic...
it kind of is canon when you think about how Pokemon has kind of leaned on the idea of Multiverse theory with events of the Delta story in ORAS and the like. so, technically: Jaiden did and didn't win.
Minor correction: She didn't lose her entire team. Just half. But the ones she had left were all weak to fire so she called the run a loss there.
Just so you know Kyle, most people who stream or Let's Play their Nuzlockes are actually playing them on their PCs using emulators. This makes it way easier to stream because of all the extra things an emulator can do (such as moving the screens around to where you want, or just the simple benefit of looking at the game on a bigger screen). It's not easy to record natural DS footage; I'm pretty sure you used to be able to install something called a Capture Card to do so, but since emulating is so much easier for most people, I think the Capture Cards are a lot harder to get nowadays.
Doesn’t Nintendo get the big mad though?
@@theduckgoesmoo 🤫
@@theduckgoesmoo their are tons of streamers who do it. I doubt anything bad will happen since emulators have been around for years and Nintendo hasn't really done much about it
@@theduckgoesmoo Nintendo dont like people downloading roms, but if you own a rom, they have no way of knowing if it was downloaded or if you dumped it yourself. Dumping a rom is totally legal. As such playing a rom on an emulator is also perfectly legal. Nintendo dont like it but they also cant do shit about it
@@theduckgoesmoo They can't legally do anything unless they can prove that a game was downloaded illegally, and it is NEVER worth the legal fees to attempt to do that anyway. So, I've never seen anyone DMCA'd for this issue. Emulators themselves are perfectly legal as well; the only grey area is if the game was pirated itself.
Still, those who still don't like pirating usually at least say "see here, I do legally own a physical copy" or something like that. Obviously not everyone, but it's what some do.
Not saying you have to do any of this if you don't want to, of course. But this is definitely what the vast majority of people playing old Pokemon games on video do nowadays; you can even emulate the 3DS games with a decent computer.
7:33
“Fighting’s really good against Psychic, isn’t it?”
The exact opposite, really.
Also; Pursuit is a Dark Type move that’ll hit the Pokémon before it gets the chance to switch.
Not only that, but if it hits a Pokémon that's being switched out, its power is 80 instead of 40.
7:30 Actually it's Psychic that's good against Fighting. But what happened was the Buizel used Pursuit. A Dark move that will still hit before you switch and does extra damage if you tried
10:50 Nope. It's Water/Flying
Oops got it backwards
@@theduckgoesmoo Knowing type match ups would be critical for Nuzlockes
Random facts that you may want to know
1.
Normally in Nuzlockes there’s a thing called Dupes Clause. This is a bonus rule where you don’t have to catch a Pokémon that’s either the same species or from the same family as a Pokémon you’ve previously caught. So if you caught a Bidoof as your first encounter and later on found another Bidoof as your new encounter, you can choose to not catch the Bidoof and get a reroll in the grass for something else.
Jaiden could have done that for Wooper and Quagsire but chose not to, which I find interesting.
2.
Most players abide by the rule that the Nuzlocke doesn’t begin until you get your first Pokeballs. This is so that if your singular starter faints to a freak accident involving a Critical Hit, you can keep playing normally until you can gain a new party member.
If your starter dies after gaining Pokeballs but before catching a new member, you white out. In Nuzlocke rules, whiting out is a flat game over, run’s dead.
Alternatively if you have 6 Pokémon on you and a few in your PC after you white out, some would say it’s fine to ditch your original six that died and use your leftover Pokémon in the PC and try to keep playing. Nuzlockes really are built on how the player them self wants to play.
3.
Zubat is not good. Golbat is okay but not good. Crobat however is very very good. Extremely fast with a super high Attack stat, having access to miles like Aerial Ace and Cross Poison can make Crobat a strong sweeper. The only downside is actually obtaining the thing.
Golbat can evolve when it gains enough Friendship points with you. You can increase a Pokémon’s friendship by walking with it, sending it to do battle, gaining levels, and various other ways that vary depending on which game you’re playing. This means you can theoretically get a Crobat fairly quickly and then murder everybody. Good Pokémon.
4.
Death Fodder is a very common tactic in Nuzlockes. Preemptively bringing in a Pokémon you know you won’t use or has little legitimate value to a tough fight can ensure the survival of your primary team members. As depressing as that can be.
Also, Onix sucks. Pretty good defences, but it has an incredibly low Attack stat. Onix’s Attack is 45. Oddish has an Attack of 50. Just let that sink in.
4.
20:33 Spiritomb and Sableye had zero weaknesses before Generation 6 when Fairy was introduced.
Dark is weak to Fighting and Ghost is weak to Dark and Ghost. Ghost negates Dark’s fighting weakness and becomes immune to it while Dark turns Ghost’s weakness to Dark and Ghost into neutral damage.
Dark is now also weak to Fairy, so now these two Pokémon have one weakness.
19:07 If you decide to do a nuzlocke, you can decide for yourself if you want to use legendaries or not.
The basic rules consists of nicknaming each pokemon, if faints it dies, and only catching the 1st pokemon in each route. Alot of the additional rules are open for the player to decide based on their skillset. There's no judgement in any way you play
Legendary Pokémon were always my favorite thing to collect
@@theduckgoesmoo I used a Suicune in my Crystal Nuzlocke and it wasn't easy to catch without a masterball and not having my mon die. So I felt the encounter was earned
Before watching Jaiden's next, and final, nuzlocke video I would suggest watching Alpharad's nuzlockes so you know his history with them. Like someone once said somewhere "knowledge is power"
Oh yeah, definitely hit up Alpharad's nuzlockes before moving unto the third Jaiden nuzlocke.
How many are there?
@@theduckgoesmoo just 2, "How I Survived My First Pokemon Nuzlocke" and "How I survived a RANDOMIZED Nuzlocke"
7:48 The scrolling text at the bottom the screen is amazing. "Local weirdo finds slug on the side of the road, legally adopts it and whole-heartedly considers it 'her child'.
something to note:
jaiden ending up failing this nuzlocke on her birthday if i recall but her chat insisted that she get another shot at it and she was able to get the victory against cynthia in the runback
her team was 100% capable of running the final gaunlet of the elite four as she proved
but nuzlocke's don't care if your team is capable. you either get it on the first shot or not at all
i don't know if she's gone back to the game to run the whole thing back and secure the actual nuzlocke win
True dat. Had a capable team in my pokemon black run, but i got the bullshit and lost the run
Cynthia's Garchomp is terrifying. Especially pre Fairy type, so it has one less weakness. The only tougher boss Pokemon I can think of Ultra Necrozma, but that's a legendary with boosted stats and a good moveset.
What about volos giratina
Even after fairy types Cynthia's Garchomp is terrifying because in BDSP it was actually EV trained and holding a yache berry. The main reason it didn't feel like the final boss it was in Platinum was that almost everyone knew what was coming... and the friendship mechanic was a bit too overbearing.
If your starter dies before you catch another pokemon standard rules are you lose, some have a ruleset that says the nuzlocke does not start until you have access to pokeballs
Which only makes sense, considering how long some of those openings are. If I were to restart after the first five minutes of actual play, it might be 30 minutes before I get to actually play again.
Pursuit is a dark type move, and since Kirlia was a pure psychic type before obtaining it's Fairy type in Gen 6 (Pokemon X and Y.) I might as well address this too, Gyarados isn't a dragon type, it's water/flying (as weird as it seems.)
3:01 If a Starter faints, and you’ve already obtained pokeballs and the pokedex, that’s game over for your Nuzlocke.
7:36 Pursuit is a dark type move that does double damage to a target that attempts to switch up. Kirlia’s naturally weak to dark moves so it really had no chance of getting out of that.
10:24 Froslass is just as terrifying as Jaiden depicts it here. Snow Cloak is an ability it has that gives it (I think) 30% more evasion, so you risk not hitting it. And if it boosts it’s evasion even more with Double Team, or Ominous Wind (a move that can boost all of your stats), it can sweep entire teams under the right conditions.
10:58 Abomasnow is an Ice and Grass type, so Fire Blast being a 4x effective move ideally would have beaten it. Unfortunately, Gyarados doesn’t have a high enough Special Attack stat (the stat that determines the effectiveness of long-ranged moves), so it was just shy of getting that kill in one hit.
11:29 As cold as it was on Jaiden’s part (pun intended), using an encounter you don’t want on your team as death fodder is a decent strategy if you need to prepare a different Pokémon to take out another.
12:56 Unless Jaiden’s got a DS or 3DS with a capture card to stream directly from a handheld console, it might’ve been an emulator. Not sure which though.
14:04 Mars and Jupiter’s Golbats have Giga Drain to counter rock and ground types that might normally pose a threat.
15:28 This was something I didn’t think Jaiden would do initially. Some people who’ve done Nuzlockes over the years incorporated additional rules, like a “dupes clause,” a duplicate clause. This means that if you’ve caught a Pokémon of an evolutionary line and it dies, you’re also not allowed to use any other member from its evolutions either. This would mean since “Lol the Quagsire” died, she wouldn’t be allowed to use “Oops the Wooper. Again though, it’s not a mandatory clause if you didn’t include it at the very beginning.
There are other clauses that one can incorporate, like not being allowed to heal at Pokémon Centers or use not allowed to use items. There’s another one where if all your Pokémon in one team die, you could choose to go back to your PC box, put all the dead mons in their grave, and then make a new team from any remaining encounters you still have. You could then keep doing this until you run out of encounters, and then it would be considered game over.
Also, since it’s a Nuzlocke, any items that you get that would normally be allowed to revive a Pokémon (revives, Max revives, revival herbs, Sacred Ash) can be sold for decent cash, since you’re obviously not allowed to bring back “dead” Pokémon.
On another note, you were probably told about this already, but Jaiden had terrible luck with her run against the E4.
During attempt 1, Colgate the Togekiss got killed by a Stone-Edge crit from Aaron’s Heracross.
Whoops the Quagsire and Flakes the Garchomp got killed by Bertha’s Rhyperior, which used Avalanche, a powerful ice type move that does double-damage if the user goes second.
By the Fire Type User Flint, she only had Torterra, Magnezone and Scizor, 3 Pokémon that are kindling for his team, so she stood no chance at that point.
I love the song that she included at the end and in the credits, as it’s a song from a spin-off Pokémon game called, “Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time/Darkness/Sky.” That game is one of the best games in terms of story-telling in pokemon’s history. The song is called, “In the Hands of Fate,” a very melancholy song, and I cry almost every time I hear it. I’m even trying to learn to play it on the piano~
Yeah also Cynthia is the strongest champion in the entire series. She's broken in the old game. They lowered her levels down a little in the remake.
her kirlia got what's called pursuit trapped.
how pursuit works, if you switch out, before switching out pursuit hits for double dmg and after that you switch out. but not only is kirlia's def low, it's also weak to dark type attacks which pursuit is
Spiritomb had no weaknesses until Gen 6 when the Fairy Type was created.
Now Fairy Type is it's only weakness.
The Elite Four in that region are pretty brutal, and Cynthia is feared for good reason. It's been a long time since I fought them in Diamond, but recently in Shining Pearl they were plain brutal. Especially if you go in not knowing each trainer's types; and even then their Pokemon have moves to compensate for type disadvantages.
BDSP's Elite 4/Champion went competitive Pokemon levels of sweat and I love it.
Basic of Basic Rules for Nuzlockes are:
-Only Catch the First Pokemon you encounter on a route.
-Nickname every catch.
-Faint = Death
I see those as the bare minimum of Nuzlockes.
I think this one is kind of a grey area:
-Black Out = Game Over, even if you have more usable Pokemon in the PC. (what is the opinion of anyone seeing this comment? I'm curious.)
I have seen additional rules and I think some are great additions and some are for the masochists out there or those who really really really want to make their pain excruciating.
Such added rules include:
-No Potions *no recovery items used except PokeCenter*
I tried a Nuzlocke once and I had added these rules to help my beginner try to it:
-Repeat Clause: if the first encounter is of a species you already caught *living or dead* you may pass and get a different encounter.
-Shiny Clause: because of the Rarity of Shiny Pokemon, catching one is an undeniable urge. BUT you must keep it in the party, regardless of type disadvantages.
20:35 Yup. Both Spiritomb and Sableye have the Ghost/Dark dual typing which, before the introduction of the Fairy type in Pokémon X and Y, had zero weaknesses. This led to a popular hack called the Wondereye/Wondertomb hack where the above Pokémon would be hacked to have Shedinja's signature ability, Wonder Guard, which negates damage from attacks that aren't super effective.
Platinum is my JAM. Play it OFTEN even now. I have the same kind of DS as you but silver. Those things last an eternity and I love the bulky variety.
Here are the teams I use. I have a set team for each starter for both Lucas AND Dawn. I am literally pulling out my platinum copies to tell you these teams.
Dawn Teams
Empoleon, Togekiss, Lopunny, Pachirisu, Roserade, and Mamoswine (yes entirely built from the anime since it was one of the seasons I watched. Namely Kanto, Hoenn, and Sinnoh)
Infernape, Altairia, Gastrodon, Gardevoir, Probopass, and Froslass
Torterra, Staraptor, Clefable, Mismagius, Lumineon, and Lucario.
Lucas Teams are
Empoleon, Crobat, Garchomp, Magnezone, Magmortar, and Abomasnow
Infernape, Gliscor, Porygon-Z, Weavile, Tangrowth, and Scizor
And my favorite and most used team is Torterra, Honchkrow, Gallade, Dusknoir, Milotic, and Electivire. I go OUT OF MY WAY to get some semblance of this team every generation. Electivire especially who is my favorite Pokémon.
Yes I’m the kind of guy who doesn’t just spot all 210 Pokémon in the game, but catches each line and evolves them, each form, (yes all Arceus AND Rotom forms as well and yes I will cheat to accomplish that) every cheat for the special event Pokémon to catch all 493 Pokémon (as of that generation)…and no. I somehow have never gotten the black card yet. Come close but that 100 streak in the battle tower is EVIL. And the Frontier brains are NO JOKE.
If you play platinum again, Nuzlocke or no, there’s SO much in that game people just don’t do sometimes. CONTESTS are fun. And the remakes actually did quite well ESPECIALLY the awesome gym rematches and the Cynthia battle to end all Cynthia battles. I think she secured herself as #1 in the remake in main series. (Although I hear Legends Arceus has a big one)
Jaiden did a WONDERFUL job with this nuzlocke. She did lose her 1st elite four. She had hoped to lose to Cynthia if anywhere for the story and just because Cynthia is meant to be feared. But Aaron and Bertha manhandled her if I recall. No that Elite 4 is not easy. Aaron has all the best bugs and those can be tricky since no one deals with late game bugs in single player. And those beat all your psychic and dark types surprisingly. Bug and Ice are TERRIBLE defensive but VERY fun offensive I think everyone sleeps on. (They do need better resists)
08:40 The playthrough starts becoming a tragedy right around here.
10:33 Most audiences can't help but shed a tear at this point.
13:25 Only those with a heart of stone feel nothing at this juncture.
"I love the breeding stuff. It's how you get a shiny bidoof."
I once got a shiny Honedge from breeding while I was trying to breed for competitive battling, with this shiny having adamant nature and max Attack and Speed IVs. Pretty swell.
Those glitchy "alternate realities" towards the end was her various tries at the Elite 4, because her stream told her to retry the attempts. The glitches are the deaths that occured.
20:34 - "It has no weaknesses? What?"
Prior to generation 6, the Ghost/Dark typing had no weaknesses. Ghost is weak to ghost and dark, which are both resisted by the dark type, and dark was weak to bug and fighting - ghost resists bug and is immune to fighting. Therefore, no weaknesses. But, in gen 6, the Fairy type came out, ghost didn't resist it, and dark was weak to it. So, the Ghost/Dark typing now has 1 weakness.
Yes, before gen 6 and the introduction of the Fairy type, Ghost/Dark (so Spiritomb and Sableye) had no weaknesses. Outside of Scrappy ability (allows Normal and Fighting moves to hit Ghost types) Pokémon with a Fighting move, which in gen 4, the best option was Kangaskhan with Brick Break or Drain Punch, the only other was Miltank with Brick Break.
Yay, more Jaiden!
Yes, back when Platinum was new, thanks to spiritombs typing, , it had no weaknesses. However once they introduced the fairy type, it gained a weakness to fairy
Currently doing a nuzlocke run on Platinum right now. I've been doing a sort of progression thing were I started with the original Red version and have worked my way up to Platinum. I've beaten Red, Yellow, Crystal, Ruby, and Fire Red so far and the winning team for each game has been immortalized by being moved to Pokemon Home.
23:15 "They're not dead, they're just not here right now"
-Michael J. Caboose
Some nuzlockers say the nuzlock rules don't start until they get balls but it differs from player to player
"Apparently you can't use legendaries in nuzlockes."
Nuzlockes are completely self imposed. If you want to use legendaries, fine go ahead. I personally wouldn't want to because if makes it easy, but all that matters is if its fun for you. Some elitists will probably whine, but ignore them.
I personally like to use standard 'hardcore' rules- level caps, no items in battle, set mode, no legendaries, but if you nuzlocke, play how you want. No reason to do it if its not fun for you.
Some other optional rules include "dupes clause" where if you caught something previously and it's your first encounter later you can skip it and catch your next encounter for that area, the choice for gift pokemon on whether they are your encounter for the area you receive them or not.
But basically since it's self-imposed rules, you can generally just do whatever you're comfortable with at the time.
Pursuit is a dark move that deals double damage when you try to switch the target on the round that move is used, PLUS Fighting sucks against Psychic, but dark works great against it.
Since this just dropped I'll be the first to explan it: she lost the challenge once. Since it was her birthday AND because it was a loss coming from RNG, the chat voted for her trying again from the start of the elite four.
The flashes are her artistic interpretation of the lost run. (Had nothing to do with Giratina, but was a cool plot element for the animation)
Heh, beat you to it by nearly a day. ;)
@@DieselWeasel
No you didn't, the video came out like 10 minutes ago lol
@@OtakuJuanma2 Yeah, but patrons get access a day early. XD
Some people don't start the permadeath rules until they get pokeballs for the first time so you don't lose your first and only pokemon straight away, and some people just let themselves lose in 5 minutes
I still find it brilliant that she used Giratina splitting her in two to integrate her failed E4 attempt into the video.
Also…To answer your question at 18:20, it DOES actually go pretty hard. I didn’t have much trouble with them in Platinum, but in BD/SP…HOO BOY, they’re actually pretty tough in those games. The VGC-tier AI the Sinnoh Elite Four and Cynthia use in those games really makes a difference
20:37 Spirittomb has no weakness until Gen6 were Fairy types were Introduced which are effective against Dragons and Dark or Ghost not sure about it.
Fun Fact about the Gen 4 games. When the Diamond and Pearl movie trilogy were being released they had limited time event items that allowed players to get Mythical Pokémon (basically Pokémon that are usually only available in events) a Darkrai (starred in the first movie with Time God Dialga and Space God Palkia), Shaymin (starred in the second movie with literal Satan Giratina) and Arceus (third movie with literal God). However despite the third movie being released and the event being coded and completed they never released the item for the event. This means that for over a decade you had to use a cheating device to access Arceus and it was never fixed, instead they remade the event recently in the remakes, which is sad because many prefer Platinum on DS over the remakes due to the remakes having glitches and were stripped of content.
When he mentioned Twice I lost my crap- I love him so much lol.
To explain, her chat told her to try the Elite Four a second time after failing the first. First time around, she lost her Togekiss to Aaron's Heracross thanks to the move Stone Edge, THEN Bertha's Rhyperior overpowered her Garchomp and Quagsire, and by the time she made it to Flint, her remaining Pokemon were ALL weak to fire, sooo... yeah, that was a thing. She wasn't even expecting to beat Cynthia on either try.
4:25 To be fair, I understand your skepticism. Onix is intimidating as hell in the anime & comics and IRL would be an absolute nightmare to deal with cuz its a 28-foot snake made of rocks that can breathe paralytic dragonfire (because that is somehow a thing that exists), but in the games its basically useless as anything other than a physical wall until after it evolves.
Years later and I'm still gutted that she thought her Scizor was weak to ice, rather than super effective, and let Failure die without need );
Yep she originally lost but the stream told her to redo it anyway. So she incorporated it into this unique way into her video that was so god damn emotional
I definitely recommend giving Alpharad's nuzlockes a watch.
If only because of the first one and his friends giving him excellent advice which never goes wrong! (/sarcasm)
According to some pro nuzlockers like Pokemon Challenges, zubat and magikarp are some of the best common nuzlocke encounters, since gyarados is a strong physical attacker and has intimidate, and crobat is fast, bulky, and has great defensive typing.
Jaiden lost her first run against the Elite Four, but the chat convinced her to give it another try. That’s why she was getting those visions where her Pokémon were dying. It ties back to her encounter with Giratina, which I think is just fantastic storytelling on her part
10:48 Acsualy he is water flying type
There's really no universal standard for Nuzlocke rules; everyone goes about it differently. The general rules are:
~ The challenge doesn't begin until you gain the ability to catch Pokemon. (Just be sure you don't lose your starter in between getting Poke Balls and actually catching something.)
~ One encounter per area. If you fail it, you get NOTHING.
~ Nickname everrything.
~ Permadeath, either using a PC box as a graveyard or by just putright releasing the "dead" Pokemon.
Anything beyond that is on a per-player basis. Some opt for other restrictions such as legendaries (not every Nuzlocke restricts those, particularly if they're Randomizer games where tou can just casually find Ho-Oh in the grass), item use, gift Pokemon and what have you. They even have different policies for what happens to the series should you lose the challenge (delete the save or just give up on the challenge and play nornally).
Jaiden's next (and probably last) one is a unique Nuzlocke challenge called a Soul-Link, where you and your partner's encounters/gifts in the same area are "Linked" (and often given the same nickname to avoid confusion). And if one of your Pokemon dies, so does whichever Pokemon your partner had to correspond to it. They also added an extra restriction to that particular run where between Jaiden and her partner, no two Pokemon in active use could have the same PRIMARY type (if the Pokemon had two types, only the first one matters), but to be honest I'm not a fan of that rule. It's a little TOO restricting for my taste.
Even Jan agrees with Jaiden's chat about the second chance because, even though it is not a "true" Nuzlocke, the whole point of playing Poke'mon it to "have fun".
The alternate Jaiden was a reference to Jaiden actually losing her first run and winning on her second run.
I mentioned this in the soul link video (since I saw that first), but Jan (pronounced Yawn) found out what happened and in response said something akin to this:
“There’s the pro nuzlocker in me that says: that’s not a real nuzlocke, you’re supposed to go back and play the game all over. Then there’s the socially adjusted person in me who says: it’s a self imposed challenge of a children’s video game, who gives a shit?” This was a response to the negative comments on Jaiden’s channel regarding losing a nuzlocke and then doing the elite four again.
Basically, the "Glitches" are a refrence to Jaiden's first attempt at the Elite Four, she died on Flint before Twitch Chat said to do a redo (with the same team) because it was Jaiden's Birthday.
And if you will react to the two player Nuzlocke, make sure to watch Alpharad's Nuzlockes (including the Randomizer one for the loss!)
11:15
This moment is responsible for me having a special place in my heart for Shinx. Dude DID NOT deserve the s****y hand it got dealt due to not being a slug. That animation legit breaks my heart every time I see it.
10:52 Gyrados is Water/Flying type.
I would like more jaiden videos that sounds fun
Gyarados is Water/Flying, Pursuit has priority over the opponent switching out and does double damage when this happens, Fighting is weak to Psychic because you know mind over muscle thing.
I don't know if the Shinx she accidentally killed had it, but if it has the Intimidate ability, Shinx is VERY good early game, because it's ability drops the opponent's attack just by sending it into battle. You can use this to make a hard hitting Pokemon like Cranidos or Purugly weaker as soon as you send it out, and then switch into something else to battle it in it's weakened state. You can even keep rotating it like this to make the opponent's Pokemon nearly helpless. Barring critical hits of course.
Are you saying you did NOT have trouble with Cynthia?
Ok so, to answer the question you asked about how she was recording her game play. Assuming she wasn't playing on an emulator on her computer, she would have been using a device called a capture card. They cost around $60-$70 if I remember correctly.
2:32 I love Shinx, it's always on my team. I name it Storm
6:03 Duck reveals his kinks again
So you can use legendaries but it’s just frowned upon in the community cause they’re strong at that point. But what I’ve always thought that if you decide to do a Nuzelocke, you play how you wanna play. Also there’s a kind of “hidden” rule in the community called “Dupes/Species Clause”; basically if you catch a Pokémon on one route and your encounter is the same as the one you caught earlier, you can redo the encounter to get something different. The other version of this is if you catch a Pokémon and then encounter another Pokémon of the same “species” or evolution line, you can get a redo
There are a multitude of different rules that you can choose to follow, the basic nuzlocke rules are as follows:
If a pokemon faints you can't use it again
You can only catch 1 pokemon per new area
And you must nickname all caught pokemon
Any other rules are self imposed, you can choose to use legendaries if you want. You can use healing items if you want.
That garchomp is a menace this is just my experience her garchomp almost gave me ptsd it almost made me stop playing pearl
I do 100% support doing a reaction to her 2-player Nuzlocke. I probably like that video the best just for the insanity of that run.
19:47 Sadly, as others have already pointed out, she kinda did lose. She didn't FULLY lose since she still had Pokémon in the box she could use. But she did admit defeat for the run when she lost half the team to the second Elite. Her chat supported her doing a re-do just to finish the run and see if she could defeat the Elite 4 and Cynthia.
A bit bittersweet. But that's just the nature of Nuzlockes.
Can't wait for you to watch Jaidens Soullink.
7:35 - *Jaiden:* And that's why hate love.
This line hits differently, after Jaiden's recent video called "Being Not Straight" - th-cam.com/video/qF1DTK4U1AM/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=JaidenAnimations
...Kyle Gyarados is water flying, it is not dragon
there are only 3 gen 1 dragon types and they are of the same evolutionary line! dratini, dragonair and dragonite
Gyrados is a dragon in terms of the LORE, that's why it has moves like fire blast and dragon tail and so on.
@@haku8135 Yeah, but he literally said in the video that it was Dragon/Flying type, which is wrong.
@@NamedNameless1 And I never said he was RIGHT, I was explaining why Gyrados has dragon and fire moves despite not being dragon TYPE.
He's a dragon, in the LORE.
You know, I don't get how Cyrus is supposed to be like, mid to late twenties.
Also, Cynthia's piano theme is so goddamn good.
Platinum was also notorious for being one of the hardest nuzlockes
You need to watch Pokemon challenges videos he did on Jaden's videos. He'll explain what you really need to keep an eye out for in nuzlockes. 19:51 and she did faill it, but she decided to have one reset just to finish it rather than start over for the video. So she talks about how she feels like she really didn't beat this nuzlocke.
19:07 you *can* use legendaries and mythicals if you want to. It's your nuzlocke, your rules. However, many decide not to use them because they can make the fights too easy and it's easy to end up using them for everything so the rest of the team falls behind in levels.
If you lose your starter while you don't have anymore Pokemon, you lose and the run is over. That's it.
20:31 Spiritomb is Ghost and Dark Type. That combination of types had no weaknesses until the introduction of fairy types in generation 6 (X and Y). Fairy types can also kill Dragon typel like Garchomp. The gen 4 remakes on switch (Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl) have fairy types on the pokemon that were in the original game and received a fairy typing gen 6 and onwards (Like Gardevoir and Togekiss). So if jaiden played the switch versions (this was before they released though), kept Devito the Ralts alive, evolved it into Kirlia and then Gardevoir and kept it until the final battle, She could of had an easier time defeating Spiritomb and Garchomp as she could use Devito and Colgate.
Sorry for the long lecture, I think it was helpful though
Guess whos back again telling you to watch internet historian if you havent already in your personal time!?
"Fall of 76" great starter video if you are just getting into his content
Gyarados is Water Flying and is more of a Physical attacker than a special one.
The story goes it was jaden’s birthday when she streamed the elite four. She went in and lost half her team to the second elite four member because she didn’t know the Rhyperior had an ice move. Because it was her birthday chat allowed her to start over.
3 videos I want to watch in the same day. You are a beautiful man Duck… thing, I guess
I uploaded 4 in total today lol
Kyle: What happends if you started faints?
A Very short lived run thats what.
Also if you Want to see Birb cuteness at it's finest check out Jaidens's videos Happy Birthday Ari, Ari's Barthday! (Again) and Ari's Birthday Party and new friend.
Been enjoying going thru red version. Good practice. Just found her videos and it inspired me to actually want to try one. Always saw the game variant but never checked out the rules. But after years...yeah its something im interested in
10:48 Gyarados is actually water/flying
....we all just gonna ignore Kyle calling Gyarados "not a water type" at 10:48?
Yeah? Okay.
I got it backwards I knew there was something that was ironic about the type
@@theduckgoesmoo I mean, most people forget it's a flying type.
There's two ways to remember:
If it looks like a dragon it's not a dragon.
And, if the pokémon is from Gen 1 and its a game before X&Y, it's not a dragon.
If your first pokemon fainted in battle this is a literally a game ovrr
I played Diamond back in the day, and it's still my favorite. I loved making Poffins ☺️
"Fighting is really good against Psychic isn't it?" Firstly, no, it isn't. It's weak to Psychic. Second, Pursuit is a Dark type move, which IS good against Psychic, that deals double damage if the target Pokemon is being swapped out. So it was pretty much an instant kill for Kirlia.
"Gyarados isn't a Water type" Water/Flying my dude. Just has some good type coverage moves like Flamethrower, Thunderbolt, Earthquake, Ice Beam, Stone Edge, Power Whip, and Dragon Pulse.
"It has no weakness!?" Spiritomb is a Ghost/Dark type, a type combination that, up until Gen 6 introduced the Fairy type, canceled out each others weaknesses.
"Speed kills!" except all those Death Battles were it doesn't, right?
If you really want to play a nuzlocke but don't have the means to legitimately, then just get an emulator. Until Gamefreak decides to make old games more easily available by putting some ports on the Switch, that's your best option.
14:08 golbat does not learn giga drain, it gets it only via TM
I think you should also react to Alpharad's "How I Survived My First Pokemon Nuzlocke"
I do wonder if I shuld try a nuzlock run of platinum. I have the game, the ability to do trade evolution, and no savefile that I am unwilling to lose.
So Jacob gets the Onix made of glass that's shattered by an ice punch but Jaidens death fodder Onix loves long enough t make it back to the box.
🎵A song as old as ti~me
BS RNG~🎵
“Gyarados is dragon-flying type”
Oof
How do you record DS games? Well, the official way is to get a "capture cart" for your DS, which allows you to record footage from the handheld to your PC (I assume, never done it myself). The other, easier (read: free) way is to emulate the game and record directly from the emulator.
No wonder why everyone does that
@@theduckgoesmoo Capture Cart method used to be way more common, but semi-recently emulators "got gud" so it's a tempting alternative
Opera really likes handing out crits in platinum 😅 ahh the memories…..I swear that game had a higher crit rate!
me as an german watcher: when you said you don't remember ruby (in german rubin) so much, but that there are a few memories of emerald (in german smaragd).. somehow my brain heard "I don't remember rwby so much but have a few memories of emerald" xD
lol that’s funny I can’t wait for the next volume
Please consider watching Alpharad's nuzlockes too :)
Btw great video
Also fun fact! During the run once she got far enough into the game I believe the only healing items she used on Milk was Moo Moo Milk
Are they not allowed?
@@theduckgoesmoo they are definitely allowed! It depends on the person though. Some people do what is called a hardcore nuzlocke which has the same base rules but the only difference is that you can only heal outside of battle, so literally you have to know the game inside and out and have little room for error
The problem is her run was destroyed by crits, I would add more but if I do I’ll have to explain what self imposed means and I don’t want to do that. But either way do react to the soul link nuzlocke as she’s stated it would be her last one that she will animate. Anyway keep it up
There was a lot info you got wrong when it came to type matchups, a Pokémon’s typing, and how powerful Pokémon can be against you when you’re not overlevelling (the biggest telling you not knowing how hard Cynthia’s Garchomp is.)
So if you really want to do a Nuzlockes, you really gotta know your mechanics if you don’t want an early failed run.
To be fair, Onix has the same Attack stat as a Wurmple and needs to be traded to evolve so… not the best for a Nuzlocke when you have no friends/extra DS to trade with.
But she evolved Shrimp the Scyther into Scizor so she could’ve done the same to Onix
If you're going to watch the next one, one thing you should know going into it to add t the amusement: Jaiden is known for having bad luck. Jacob is known for having good luck. May be interesting to have in mind as you watch it
yeeeeah~ i don't know if it's a Gen 4 thing but like... a lot of crit hits happened and i am still wondering why.