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2017 Ford Focus RS vs 2017 Subaru WRX STI - Comparison | Driving Reviews
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We had some fun with the 2017 Ford Focus RS and the Subaru WRX STI! Check out our comparison video and driving review! Call for more information at Morrie's Minnetonka Ford @ 952-546-5441
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There's just something about a Subaru that's very special... idk how to explain it... but the Subi community all feels it and we are all friendly and supportive of each other. If you don't know what I am talking about... then that's cool man, get whatever car you want, just do you, no hate.
"like a racecar setup" complains about RS suspension.
I like subaru's, but good grief this guy is biased.
zack D Why is that a problem? He is entitled to prefer one to the other. Weird comment
Simon George i have an opinion too which is why i commented in the "comment section". Get off youtube and stop telling people how to comment when there is a comment section that was not locked. 👌🏻
RS brand new starts at 36k which depending on where you live and the financing options comes out to about 40k. Some car dealerships are jacking up prices because of the unavailability unfortunate but true. The STI starts off at just below 36k and the same goes for it as far as financing. I just picked up my RS and absolutely love it. As far as engine noise from inside the cabin yes some noise does come from the speakers but it is still real engine noise it is just amplified and the fact that it pops and burbles out of the box is priceless and addicting to hear. ALSO THE STI ISN'T EVEN A HATCHBACK ANYMORE!!! Both have an amazing looking exterior but the STI does have the RS beat when it comes to the interior.
I'm going to go back to a quote from an older video of a review on the evo X vs the sti: your head will reach for the evo keys but your heart reaches for the sti keys
Basically Subaru has an amazing driver experience even though it's not the fastest in the class. It's just a fun ass car
I currently own an STI, before owning my 2016 I came from a ST focus. At the time I bought ST because I had always loved the RS over seas and always wanted one. Now that we have it here in the states I'm having a hard time making that leap, mainly because the interior is the same as the ST I really think they need to go a little more full on race car with it. Either way I respect the heck out of the RS but love my STI too much to part ways with it just yet.
This guy is a sti fan boy
Ale St Just that the focus rs is overrated lol 😂 . I drag them in my 10 year old HR Z pretty sad.
Lol ur a funny guy 😂😂😂😂💀💀💀💀
Jeison Gonzalez you're an idiot. It's not a drag car. It'd thrash you on a rally circuit dirt or street.
Ale St yeah very funny when I fly by that rs like it's standing still lol 😂
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As a HUGE Subie fanboy, I must say there's almost no way the STi can compete with the Focus RS. Strip away the opinion and the badges on the cars (which is definitely why this reviewer loves the subie so much), and the Focus blows away the STi. The Focus cutting edge technology, all new everything. The Subie is basically on the same platform as the ones in 2008. I see the STi as special and I love it more, but it's not a better car. The RS has a better interior, it's more comfortable (by a lot), and most importantly, it is faster both in a straight line and around bends. I'd still buy the STi, but not because it's the better car, but because of my personal feelings
Yeah, but not for 10 grand more. That's dollar difference between the two cars here in southwest PA.
So I have to make a decision... Focus RS or an STi plus a trip to Greece, a set of winter wheels, 5 pairs of custom made pants, have my house repainted and a put a new roof on my mom's house?
I like that he was equally enthusiastic about both cars. A lot of reviewers, you can usually tell which one they favor.
In the reliability department, Subaru is WORLDS ahead of Ford (As it is with all foreign vs US-made brands.) Performance also goes to Subaru. The Ford might be faster in a straight line, but I guarantee that if you put them on the track that the STI would take the win. Aesthetically, it's personal preference. Both of them can fit 5 people, both have the potential to be good daily drivers, aside from the Subaru's bad mileage. It's really a battle over preference. I'd take a Subaru cause I know it would most likely last longer and I don't care for it's track potential. I just like the fact that it's a 300 hp manual monster.
The main difference between Subaru and Ford is fucking reliability. Subarus tend to be able to do more than 300k miles on them with a little bit of care. But my Ford died after 90k ...
It was a Focus diesel and piece for piece, the emission control died. After repairing everything, the turbocharger wrecked also. So I sold the car for 1k. And swore, not to buy a Ford again. Like Never.
Garrulus my ford f150 has 370k miles ...... your point?
I've owned many Ford's with 209k miles or more. current fusion sitting at 118k no problems.
don't blame a company for lack of maintenance or possible mechanic sabotage
Garrulus people hes talking about recent fords. fords reliability has gone downhill a bit
I maintenanced it properly (did all the oil changes in time, used good oil, had an all-around check every year, didn't wait if something was occuring etc.), didn't kick it when cold and drove mainly longer distances. So I don't get the point, where I should have done anything wrong. I mean I don't give a fuck. Propably it was only my car, but I won't run a risk buying another Ford.
STI for sure. Better visibility and better looking car. Sitting in driver or passenger seat, you have more room. The Focus center is too busy and in your face. If you care about tech, get a WRX Limited fully loaded. Put the money you saved from buying a STI and it will be faster than the RS or STI.
Didn't even talk about the transmissions and how they shift...makes me sad. After a civic Si, which feels so good that's become an important thing for me (in daily driving)
He says the RS is more of a daily driver, and liveable. But its also faster? That makes it better right?
Focus is bouncy because he has it in sport mode! Im sorry i like the sti better just because i havent jumped on RS but the fact is that from the moment he got on the sti i knew that he was leaning towards the subaru... he spoke so much crap about the RS while he was on the subi that already i knew where he was going!! U didnt have to pick one at the end... we all knee who you where going for!
I want a Focus RS really bad but it's a limited edition thing so replacement parts will be hard to find and by the time I get my license all the RS'S will either be riced, Stanced, or wrecked, whereas the STI is an ongoing model so parts are easier to find and because I prefer a sedan form over hatchback
Man I mean the focus is more powerful, has better seats, better drivetrain, but the font on the the infotainment is just unacceptable - hands down the STi just wins.
The fact they left the interior (besides some blue stitching and the recaros) the same as their 18k version is totally unacceptable.
MrWarmhole the real question do you really want to pay 50k for a focus? The sti is .1 sec slower and the rs has 50 more bhp. the sti for 3k you car be in the 400whp
ak15 ar47 I paid 36.5k for my RS and you can hit close to 400wtq and 350-360whp with just a tune on the RS.
***** was that used? I see 48 to 51k new. And you can get close to those numbers with just a TBE and a tune with the sti. Do you not remember not long ago the focus being a beater/ricer car? I can't get past that
***** also you better drive it a lot around 20k miles they blow
The Sti was a rally car. Now it's too big, heavy and same hp as before 👎
And now, it looks like your typical generic Japanese car. I loved the styling in the early 2000's and hate how these cars remind me of Toyotas and Hondas now.
grim grim Heavier not by much.
grim grim Most cars have gotten bigger, including exotics. The current generation WRX and STI are slightly heavier, but not by much considering how much time has passed since the first generation to now and how much safety and technology are now in these cars. My 2002 WRX was 3,050 lbs (carbon fiber trunk, aftermarket exhaust, and aftermarket wheels, removed spare and trunk liner). It didn't have nearly the same creature comforts and safety as the current generation WRX, which is nearly 3,300 lbs. As a family man now I would much rather have the current bloated WRX over my 2002 WRX.
Yes, they are rally cars, but how many people ever put them on a track? They mostly mod them for bragging rights, as a hobby, or the occasional light to light drag race.
Finally, these cars cost $30-40k depending on model. Subaru knows that mostly established, slightly older (30+) males are buying them new. The more compliant suspension, navigation, extra leg and head room, sound deadening, and luxury items are what their target demographic wants. If you don't want that there's an abundance of first and second generation WRX and STI models for sale for under $20k.
2001 wrx sti 1470kg ' 2017 wrx sti 1535kg
I have a 2016 sti with 20k miles. Change my oil every 3-4K with other regular maintenance. Never had a problem, not one, and I hoon a bit. People say sti engines are unreliable when in fact it's the other way around. They are very reliable when you take care of them. Kids that buy these cars and hit the streets abusing them without maintaining them find out the hard way and then bash the car when they get ring land failure . My buddy has a 06 sti all stock never touched and is his daily. Never had a single problem since he bought it in 05.
Took down a new WRX STI this morning in my 2017 RS.
driving the STI in Minnesota must suck. Here in So Cal we have loads of twisty canyon roads and the car is justified.
Subaru needs to bring back the Hatch Back. I have an WRX and love the car, but would like a little extra room in the back for when i go camping.
I have a 2017 STI and I have to say its an amazing car! And I have heard Ford has had some reliability issues on the RS already if you look at the forums.
That shift knob on the rs looks like the pep boys special.
when i first saw the rs and heard it take off i wanted one
I still prefer the mk2 5 cylinder RS, it looks better, as sound a lot better, my dad has one that has been modded to 400bhp
RS is way more racecar than STI
Why are you laying into it at 2K RPM -__-
Don't get me wrong, I love both cars but IMO I prefer the focus RS because it is more powerful, easier to drive, better fuel economy, and it is a little prettier.
I fell in love with a Subaru since I was born
The STI has more of a race feel to it and and is a normal car to drive each day .The RS has a race feel AND a normal car to drive each day also!For me,it's to hard to choose!
I've decided I'm going to save up and get one of these. Still haven't decided which yet. I'm leaning more towards Scooby.
Cobb launch control is awesome on the STI till your you have oil blowback and your rings fail and misfire.
Dat primer gloss grey tho!
bliglum destroyer grey
It's not electric blue but that stealth grey is the realest.
Which is easier to fix? Cheaper part? More reliable? That's the one you should get.
I think if you mildly mod both cars and use same tires they are going to be roughly equal with the same driver. C&D tested and the RS barely beats the STI in those tests. On the wet slippery surfaces the STI will win given a true mechanical rear diff and better AWD system you can't mimick that a front biased computer diff in the RS. The VW Golf R loses badly to the STI on a wet track but beats it on a dry day.
you're not annoying or obnoxious. just aim your camera so that we dont see the camera in the paint! great video
Rs looks wayyy better styling wise, but the Subaru is probably the better investment since they never depreciate for some dang on reason. i saw a 2006 hawk eye stock with about 35k mileage on it and the price sunk my heart.
OldmanMaestro I bet that ford focus don't hold value at all you are paying for the new tech ford had to invest in. how old are you? I'm 30 and I still see the beater/ricer heritage in the focus I just can't like a 50k ford focus. also I bet the sti gets more ass. a girl see that little hatch popping around she is thinking ricer I promise
OldmanMaestro I bet that ford focus don't hold value at all you are paying for the new tech ford had to invest in. how old are you? I'm 30 and I still see the beater/ricer heritage in the focus I just can't like a 50k ford focus. also I bet the sti gets more ass. a girl see that little hatch popping around she is thinking ricer I promise
30 years old and talking about picking up chicks... shouldn't you be worried about your mortgage and career? Also the Focus RS is not 50k. Fully loaded out the door after tax and fees I was less than 48k. starting the Focus RS is $36,120k. The Sti starts at $35,195. Where the hell are you getting 50k?
I got my 06 hawkeye with 22k miles. I can trun around now sell it, and still make money on the deal. Not that I ever would. Never once while looking for my sti did I ever wounder "Ford?". Subaru's much better where it matters. First it was the EVOs, then the R32s, now it's the Focus. Even after all the feuds the STI is still the one being compary against.
***** you're lucky, that's a good looking car. Bugeye and Hawkeye are the best looking. Rsti too.
Underrated review although the this video just dropped. Or underrated channel for sure!
I have two words for Subaru. ringland failure!!! I've had two brand new stock sti motors with this problem! I warn anyone thinking of buying a sti to understand they are defective motors and all are ticking time bombs. :(
from 05 to the current models.
The93vigor how many miles u had when it star failing
The93vigor yes I agree chocolate pistons
Also keep in mind that, most people don't consider their engines before completely beating up them up. They're too concerned with making power that they forget the simple fact that the stock internals aren't meant to withstand more than stock for too long. If people would think of supporting mods (to include forged internals) like they do power mods, this "subaru engines suck" sentence would used be much less.
No issues on my 2nd Subie so far. The people who glues the 'ringland failure' to their mouth or keyboard on all STi response either didn't upgrade and tune the engine properly or just follow the blind masses. The engine is proven and if you modify without doing it correctly, anything is fair games when things fail.
90% of the people can't even explain why ringland failure happened in their engine. The only true defect from factory, assuming you have the STi 257 motor is throwing rods. If you have ringland issues (I am not saying this isn't a weak point of the engine), but most people confuse this weak point as defect, it isn't the engine's fault. It's the owner's lack of knowledge on keeping proper maintenance or overtune/abuse their engine's limitations.
I like STI more than RS, but that paint on the RS... love it.
STI fan boy for sure.
He knew the ST is far better, just couldn't choose it against he's favorite.
But a great review none the less. 🖒
These reviews have been really great to hear. Unbiased and seems to be honest with his opinions. Thank you!
Ryker Bowen sti wins. rs are popping everyday
ak15 ar47 while I love the exterior of the RS more than the STI, the interior is too busy on the RS. The dash and infotainment system feel distracting. The Sti's interior is a much cleaner look.
Ryker Bowen plus who wants to pay 50k for a focus
Did I just hear something about the ringland failure? and same ol 10 year engine?
Rs2 does not add wheels. It adds power and heated seats and steering wheel. As well as upgraded interior seats.
Say "ton" "fun" and "ton of fun" a few more times and this video would be gold.
As a former 555 owner I'll take the RS.
The hockey comparison made my day, I own the exact same Sti in the vid.
RS all the way.
it seemed like the RS was the better car. the only thing you said that was better on the STI was the space. it's pretty obvious your a fan of the STI.
Seems like we can never have a comparison without the in fighting. I've owned 3 Subaru's an XT, WRX and currently an Outback. They're great cars for the money if purchased for their suited task. I've also had a Ford Escort RS2000 while I lived in Italy. An amazing car, especially when you consider how much I paid for it and how rock solid reliable it was. I'm glad Ford USA decided to bring this gem here. It is necessary for the market segment to have competition. When the EVO was discontinued the WRX/STI lost its edge. As a result moto journalist began comparing interiors with VW Golf's. The STI team at the risk of a pun has lost focus on what made them such interesting cars. While I still like the current WRX/STI, it is undeniable that it's exterior design is sedate. Like a Toyota Corolla with a completely vestigial awful rear wing. Also the top mount inter cooler really should be front mount by now.
I just got a 2017 RS and I kept my 2015 WRX
Tell us what the biggest differences are when it comes to driving? do you like one more than the other?
I've had and STi then an evo then another STi then a WRX and now I have the RS & WRX and I have to say the RS had way better handling and way more fun to drive, I only drive the RS hard and as fast as possible otherwise I drive the WRX I'm getting 12mpg on the RS and I get 36 on the WRX
Gilroy Moto can i have one daddy?
The fuel efficiency of the WRX seems to be bad. I think the RS is definitely getting some recognition nowadays.
Gilroy Moto damn nice.
Is the RS really smaller? I love the room in the WRX, just enough. Me and my wife up front and a big child seat in the back, I could also fit a large tri-stroller in the trunk.
I wan't to pick the RS, but... If you live on a dirt road you're screwed. The existing suspension is street only and all after market options range from street to super street to track. I want the Ford but you can't make a homegrown rally car out of it. And that sucks.
4 doors... Both would be great for trips to the grocery store or taking kids to soccer practice.
Awesome review, so much passion, thanks
Take both cars into an S curve and immediately feel the difference. The RS cannot hold a flame to the STI in cornering and that's where the fun factor is. If you get your jollies from going in a straight line then maybe the RS is for you, but for 45k there are way better options for that, and the RS isn't even significantly faster than the STI from a dig. Get an STI, put the extra 10k you save into mods and you will have a ridiculous race car that can do everything well. The RS just doesn't compare when you look at them carefully.
Before I watched I thought it was Ford Focus RS VS Ford Focus ST
Claude Dottin If it was that video,i would've taken the RS
I'm leaning towards the RS but is it mod friendly like the STI? And does Ford have any reliablity issues? I appreciate answers
I just wish we could've got the original European Focus RS when they first launched like 10 years ago. These new ones don't live up in my opinion.
"I do almost like this interior more"? So you prefer the RS interior? I don't follow what you're trying to say here...
Good video. FINALLY Ford has a car worth considering for enthusiasts. The Mustangs are always disappointing for the price. Can't wait to drive one to see how it compares to the Subaru.
yay4meluigi hopefully you get back to the dealer when you test drive it. ford is holding strong to there name found on road dead. come buy a 50k focus it comes with a new engine every 10k miles.if you really want one do research before you buy it.
yay4meluigi sounds like you're the one that needs to do research. Every manufacturer will have some issues with a few cars. With all the issues with the EJ motor, you have no room to talk. And you don't seem like a car enthusiast, bc a true car guy would understand and respect both cars. We are blessed and should be happy that we have these cars to choose from.
I don't just like STI's, but a variety of Subaru's, but damn dude you be swinging on then nuts hard lol.
the STI shouldn't be considered a hot hatch anymore. I'm looking for a 5 door hatch with an actual hatch, and Subaru stopped making their hatchback, which should disqualify them from the hot hatch discussion. they shouldn't have, because they'd certainly be on my wishlist if they were still in production
Get a Civic or Golf
I wish Subaru still made WRX and STi in hatch, damn it!
why wouldn't the STI have push button start? Why is it all subarus charge a lot for less features?
The ford only wins cause of the torque. Ford knows how to do that I give them that.
Why does everyone keep saying the focus is so much more expensive? They're both like $36k. But the focus is much more modern...
Much uglier too , who the hell wants to buy a Ford unless it has a Mustang badge. It's the only decent car they make. The focus is just a British shopping trolley.
DEVILTAZ35....LOL, an American turbo'd AWD hatch with a severely detuned 350 hp engine and douche bags like you still complain.
"that's like choosing your favorite child" - Jeremy Clarkson on top gear reviews.
I'm straight and I love this guy's voice lol .
Focus RS is my Fav car ever i want it in the future with a cool wrap. It just looks better than the ST in mh opinion and thats what matters to me rn
So, I get from this comparison, that the STI has better room, dash design and exhaust tone.
i love my rs. so much fun. i just need to learn how to drive it to its fullest potential. if you see a nitrous blue rs driving around san francisco its probably me. thats another great thing about this car...atleast where im at in the bay area. i dont see any rs on the road. which i love because it makes me feel a bit more "rare" i guess? sti's are a dime a dozen here...plus the hatch comes in handy
I love the STI. The best well-rounded car I've owned. It's great!
STI is 305 hp at the crank not to the wheels, it's more like 230hp to the wheels.
I seriously can't choose I bought a st for now I love the Rs but I'm worried about the block issues the Rs is cheaper and more fun but i love the sti I've owned a my99 wrx and love the current model sti with the boxer engine old but proven and sounds great I wish it had more tech like Subaru eye sight and apple car play
elmin2323 the 17 does have eyesight and carplay. But the rs is 50k the sti is 30ish new
STI is stale same old 2.5 engine, no hatch, everyone has one...RS is on another level hands down
J_RuSty the rs is fresher but its not without issues. focus rs's have been blowing up all over the world. this affects all markets. the head gasket bolt between cylinder 1 and 2 is the problem. its a great car but id wait for the next generation and give ford time to work out the kinks... or buy a golf r
smelly cat every new car has its share of growing pains those effected were a very small % of the early 2016 engines. Don't think Subaru fans have room to poke fun at that. Golf R is the most boring of the big 3 to me does nothing for me look wise
J_RuSty yeah its a great car. I considered getting one but decided to wait. I had a built 06 sti and sold it around 120k (hard) miles. I never had a problem with it. I'm sure most rs owners will have the same experience with theirs. there's always e few bad ones out there no matter what. I currently have the mk7 gti. its stock at the moment but I plan to do an is38 turbo with supporting mod. the mk7 is surprisingly fast
golf r with its blowing turbos ? no thanks
u need revision 6 or so to get an reliable turbo
azzwhupin not really sure what your saying here. you'd rather blow a motor than a turbo? whatever floats your boat. is38 turbo are $1500 brand new. I'd hate to find out what a focus rs motor costs out of warranty
Wait until the 2018 wrx comes out.
I still like the STI exhaust on idle! Stay Safe everyone.
I bought my Frozen White RS from Morries.
ROFLMAO... Owned a WRX, STi, and S2K... now an RS Owner here:1) With my foot in it in Sport Mode: 22mpg2) Owned an STi as well; RS is much more sporty3) RS = better acceleration4) RS = much better cornering and corner feel5) Feedback to driver on par with S2K6) Personal opinion, interior is much better in the RS etc....Always funny to see an STi fanboy give a review of the RS...
Honestly, I feel you on the interior. Few people actually address this, but interior design on smaller Fords are actually quite horrible. They are needlessly complex and bulky, you have very little space to move around, but still it doesn't feel like the car "hugs you" in a racey kind of way. It feels more like you are being choked, and I'm not kidding. You sit all the way up in the dashboard, the center console is big and bulky but doesn't have any special features, and the design has no fluidity. It basicly looks cheap and old, and very very plasticy. Only really nice thing is the seats. And to think that the STI interior feels like luxury class compared to the RS lol.. It's plasticy too in some places, but at least some taste has gone into it, and its much muuuuch roomier than the Focus. Even compared to similar size hatches, the Focus interior feels tiny and uncomfortable..
anybody else notice he opens his music and alt j pops up? standard subi owner 😂.
both are a high schooler's dream that 30 yr olds that still live with their parents buy
Still pretty quick really though i think i'll get the Kia Stinger GT instead. Just like the overall design of the car much more than these.
yea that looks good. Had not seen that before. wonder what the price will be.
If you have a 15+ sti replay to me. it be nice to have soneone to ask options and shit with
Great review! Got a new subscriber here.
this guy did a great job with the review
wow really enjoined your video.. not biased at all
Race car setup LMFAO I CAN'T just stop
I have an sti i like as a daily driver
Thanks for the help but not really... still dont know which to buy lol
Some footage of the cars would have been handy, in a car review.
the sti's interior feels more like a racecar? it's based on an econobox...
Ford Focus is nice but with hard suspension small drives is fine, daily drive or longer journeys everyone prefers the STI plus better interior. The plastics in the ford feel & sound so cheap that's just my opinion.
DeSpace Man who sees that and says yes that's what I want to spend 50k on? I can't help but still see the beater/ricer heritage in the focus RS
Its an ST with blue stitching, plain and simple.. I have sat in both. they feel identical on the inside. Hell the limited WRX feels better inside than the RS.. The STI has a much nicer interior
Well said my friend, the STi is enthusiast geared!
and the RS isn't? The RS badge comes from a lineage of prestigious rally cars...
DFW SUBARU GUY true but when did the last ford win a WRC championship? 81/82 unbelievably overrated are fords
never heard of RS outside this new ford focus.
but whenever you think of rally subaru is the first thing people say, the sti is a legend in motorsport and a true classic rally car.
think of it like this, if this was gaming ford would be nintendo(relying on gimmicks to sell their cars like drift mode and overboost, it also has fake engine noise and unreliable awd system) and subaru would be playstation(raw power, incredibly reliable awd system, tuner friendly transmission, no gimmicks, it is a true drivers car)
RS and performance Fords are collected, restored, and sold at some of the most prestigious auctions in the world. An Escort RS1600 ranges in value from around $26,000 for a project to $64,000 fully concours restored. Which "classic" model Subaru might you be referring to? A Brat, Justy, or Loyale? Maybe the RX? The Ford rally legend started from the early 1970's and they are currently participating in this year's WRC. Ford has also fielded a factory effort at the Dakar Rally with the Global Ranger pickup over the last couple years, the Ford GT won it's class at Le Mans last summer...Has cars in NASCAR, Australian Supercars, FIA World Rallycross, FIA World Endurance Championship, Best in the Desert off-road series, I've run out of time looking up their current efforts but you might get the picture. And who makes a vehicle for almost every need: Fiesta ST, Focus ST, Focus RS, Taurus SHO, F150, 250, 350,450,550,650, Raptor, Mustang, Mustang GT, Mustang GT350, Mustang GT350R, Ford GT, Global Ranger. Why can't we even get the Subaru LEVORG here? Maybe some the the limited production Impreza WRX's? A load of crap! Subaru is chasing the mainstream! They pulled out of the WRC almost 10 years ago!
Please, Ford were amazing in the 70's after that decade ended they really didn't live up to the name.
You mock subaru for utilising their WRX pedigree, that's exactly what Ford did when they dropped off in the early 80's RS badges on everything and that means zero. Those 80's/90's cars are nowhere these days, they were rotted out, engine gave in or crashed by people who thought they were driving supercars.
Fords recent resurgence is through Finance vehicle deals, they'll say yes to anyone, like Audi. They're everywhere. Audi do have a far more serious pedigree though.
Ford top sales and worship areas are US, UK, Australia. Now they go and compete in the Aussie V8 championship as generally the big boys in town, so really is it so hard to win when A UK based Ford Motorsport team are the biggest and most resourceful team in that championship they enter? Not really.
Global scale championships Ford aren't exactly top dogs are they, sure they'll win something along the line but really a Ford fanatic can't be bragging all that much.
And can i inform you the prestigious RS line you spoke of some of those models had Volvo engines and transmissions.
The most important part of this is Ford and Subaru are businesses, now the Japanese know that if their cars aren't good enough, they will lose customer for good. Ford can have shitter after shitter and Ford fans will lap it up like Christmas dinner.
Not a Subaru fan although the the WRX is more iconic than any other rally car Ford have made and the Estate version is better than any Ford estate made ever.
Love the hockey analogy.
He calls it a rally car... But world rally cross limits you to a 2L engine... That sti has a 2.5...
Hey you are a very nice dude and you made a very nice video but please forget about the "race car" thing. These are nice road-going cars very fun to drive on the road but keep competition out of that conversation. Just to give you a hint a proper rally car (like the Fiesta WRC) costs about $200 *per mile* to operate :-)
great video helped me a lot.
Could someone explain to me how a hatchback seems smaller than a sedan?
when the stock power to the wheels is actually 180 from factory lol
time to tune