Everything You Need to Know Before Buying a Focus RS
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Chapters:
0:00 What You Need to Know when Buying a Focus RS
0:47 RS1 & RS2
1:39 Forged & Non Forged Wheels
2:37 Door Dings & Dents
2:59 Paint Swirls
3:20 Alignment
4:10 Under The Hood
6:58 Clutch Wear
8:23 What to Ask the Owner
9:19 "Drift Mode"
11:25 General Shape
12:08 Mileage
14:07 What Mods Should Scare You
15:13 RS For Dummies - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
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Always ask if the head gasket recall has been done. I bought mine and the purge valve went out (which was a recall on all Focuses), so I replaced it myself with no issues. Easy fix.
YES! I knew i was forgetting something MAJOR. Very Very important to ask about this. It was done at 3k miles on this car that I bought, most RS owners took it serious luckily
I just saw a video on visually checking the gasket. The correct gasket pokes out a bit and has a brass rivet.
You can see it (or not) if you take the cover off and take some flashlit pictures down low on the block
Ford did it after I bought my car. Maurice ...
What rubber are you using? I am on my second Michelle Sport 4s' from the Sport Cup 2's stock.
I lucked out mine is from prior to the head gasket recall
Hey Cameron big fan here, I just bought a 2018 Ford Focus RS with 10,000 miles on it, I am trading in my 2015 Ford Focus ST. While I was learning more about tuning I stumbled across your videos and started watching and learned so much. Thank you for all you do and hope to run into you in the future.
Excellent!! I have a '17 R1 bought new an 04/18 f/ $35100 (3 months of negotiating trading in mt '13 ST for a $10.5K trade in. Added a Cob Mountune AP Access, Enhanced Intercooler, Cobb optimed tune map, and a K&N wet air filter. I am taking on Mustang 5.0"s from a dig up to 60mph (under safe conditions).
Love it! Keep doing what you are doing!!! :-)
I’ve had my 2017 since 2019 and I love it!
I did drift mode only once and in the wet lol. 2017 RS2 Stealth Grey from the show room floor. Just turned 19K 2 days ago. Gasket recall done, leak down test was a pass. Love this RS baby, no regrets. K&N air filter and AWE Track Edition muffler delete [Deeper sound]. Nice Video/informative.
Literally one of the best car videos I’ve ever seen. Also, I saw this car for sale a month or so ago while window shopping. Hopefully one day I’ll own one of these bad boys.
Focus Rs and St come with lots of "toe in" on the tire alignment from factory. My St was already showing uneven tire wear at 15K miles with normal tire rotations.
Hey so i just stepped made 155k km so right about 100k miles. Love it and it will love you back. 0 problems with mine with regular maintanence and not killing it every day 😂👍
Awesome vid as always been looking in the market for couple months now hopefully can get one soon
Buy mine! email me cameronalford@carmaspeed.com
@@CameronAlford Price and Location? I’m looking for an RS2 and there’s none to be had near me that aren’t complete junk.
Note about the oil: if they use 0W-40 ask if it has the Ford WSS spec. 0W-40 oils around the world met the spec when the car was released, but only the Motorcraft one met the spec in the US. Today, there's several oils that meet Ford WSS spec and using 0W-40 is technically the correct spec.
Note about the block: the open deck isn't the problem, the stock connecting rods are. Once you go over 400whp you risk bending a rod and that's what punches a hole in your engine.
currently thinking about buying a 2018 ( I am like 80-90% there :D ) with under 60k kilometer in the clock (37k miles)
it has it story but the fix was done in a Ford ASC that is selling it and I got the invoice for the replaced parts by the ASC so looks legit, the same goes for wheel geometry so I am relatively hyped
no tuning done so that's a plus for me
and the Ford ASC/Seller is putting on 3 years of guarantee on it
I lucked out and found a RR ‘18 RS in 2021 with 4400 miles on it. Barely used and well maintained. It is now my daily driver, and I look forward to the commute every day. Since I rely on it, and it’s in such good shape, I am hesitant to launch it or try drift mode. That said, the comment about the Quaife LSD making it more playful when drifting has me intrigued, and I may have to test that out when I get an opportunity.
Great advice!
Just bought a 2016 with 47k miles 100% stock. Great deal (30k), totally babied, and went into the dealer for service every 3-5k miles (I knew I was buying it after I looked at the Carfax). Was a trade in for a nice truck at the dealer I was buying it at. Tried drift mode once so far, and I feel you on that, I'd rather keep it in super good shape and not mess with that. Paint is almost perfect with just two rock chips on the front bumper, after the last few I looked at, I knew this was the one finally.
Probably gonna keep it mostly stock with just a few things, like an exhaust, and an intake, and rims for summer tires (I live where the weather is bad enough, snow tires are recommended)
Another thing to look out for: 2016 models actually do NOT come compatible with Apple Car Play out the box, you need to swap the USB port. Easy fix, but to be aware of! And yep, I used Drift Mode… twice. Once in the rain. No urge ever to use it.
I found that out the hard way on my ST. Tried updating it several times, even altered the file so it would take it in two halves. Apparently theres a “nav” version of the big screen also that has a totally separate unit plugged into the back. Pain in the ass. Classic Ford stuff
you're so right! mine came with the USB module so I spaced this.
ayo, im selling my supercharged 5.0 for an focus RS in the stealth grey, so excited
That’s a hell of a switch. What’s turning you away from the boosted 5.0?
@Infinite bro I love the car. My dream car. But its not practical for my life style. Fiancé hates the Recaros, a bitch to put our kid in and we are expecting another one.
@@iTzMrAndersonrs looks better
@@iTzMrAndersonget a scat pack. Plenty of power and room.
@@iTzMrAndersonfelt this to the core
Have a 2017 NB rs. I feel i got Lucky, this car was super clean. Someone loved this car and i am continuing the tradition. I paid for it for sure at 32.5k for a car with 72k miles but i feel like i got middle of the road deal. Not great but not terrible.its rs 2 with all options. I have put 6-7k miles on it so far. Love it. I want more power but that is always the case lol. Honestly tho, this car is crazy fun stock. Get 1. Also thank you Cameron for all of the rs content.
What are your thoughts on buying a used one with around 60k miles. ?
I just picked up a 16 rs2 in nitrous blue with 25k miles on it. It is in great condition I would say a 9 of 10 but getting it flawless. Have an st that in have thrown everything mod to it possible and love it. Going to have the rs trans and diff built one day. Been a blast to own so far. Completely different car from the st. Both are equally enjoyable to drive
Nice! Get a good deal?
I'm an "Old Guy" and had a 2011 STI 5 door hatch (wagon) and was really dissapointed Subaru never offered the wagon again....Loved that car....Bought it with 92K miles but, it had been well maintained (timing belts, new Mishimoto radiator, silicone hoses) I put new braided brake lines/slotted rotors, HP brake pads on it and added a quality coil over suspension then drove it to just over 150,000 miles....No issues and where I live it's a LONG COLD winter. At 150K I was deciding if I wanted to keep it, but decided it was time to part ways....Loved that STI....was never "tuned" and still running like a champ when I sold it. I considered an RS to replace it but, insurance costs even for an "old fart" like me were kind of crazy! otherwise an RS would be in my garage right now.
VW can fill that hole. The GTI comes in a 4 door variant with a awesome 6 speed or a DSG. Has awesome tuning potential as mine makes ~460whp and is emissions compliant. It can come with a LSD if you get a SE with the Performance Package or a Autobahn and since it’s a electronic diff… tourqe vectoring. Alternatively you could get a R and have AWD. Amazing platform just make sure you get one after 2015 with Gen 3 EA888.
Full coverage on my RS is the same as basic coverage on my 2003 Suburban. I have a perfect driving record but that only justified the cheap full coverage, not the high $ base coverage on the Burb. My base insurance on my 1999 CRV is almost the same as the other 2... $1500 a year total for all 3 policies is no big deal.
Your driving record must suck a fat 🌭
Thinking about snagging one. I'm getting really tired of working on BMW's. How are these at +100k miles?
Just bought a '17 Focus and it was previously tuned. Any recommendations on what type of fuel I should be using since I have zero idea what kind of tune the car is actually running. Should I buy an AccessPort?
So, I can get an rs with 43k miles on it, condition is perfect, no damage whatsoever, services done on time good oil and so on and the price is amazing too. What’s ur take on this, curious what you think about the mileage
So does he mean having that Cobb plug in as compared to a flash tune or whatever it’s called where you don’t need that hand held device?
My RS was totaled a month ago and I’m upset I didn’t see this while searching for another. Might have deterred me from buying the one I did. I found an RS with 30k miles on it with the elusive system too lean bank 1 code. Paid to have a 160 point inspection (outside from dealer) and only issue is the code *claimed to be from a tune* Was confirmed that there is aftermarket tuning on the car. How aggressive… I dunno yet car will be here Wednesday and will immediately go to a reputable mechanic for this platform. Anyways, I’m excited and a little uneasy but watching your videos makes me excited to hopefully keep this one forever. Wish me luck 😅
@@instagib5085 car is in the shop… they’re working on a solution for the engine code. Car had some mods but nothing crazy. Cat back and WGA. Got a new tune all squared away just have to figure out the solution for P0171. Car runs, handles and sounds as it should other than that code which usually isn’t something that’s an engine breaking issue. Time will tell though.
I would have to disagree with the Stock Cobb tune. It was so bad I was about to sell my AP till I got a proper tune for it from Stratified. The Cobb tune would over boost all the time. Ran WAY too hot. you could smell how hard it was working. It felt slower then the stock tune as it had something wrong all the time. I could see it causing some issues after time if someone just left it alone with it.
The open deck remarks at 14:10 are not true. This is not the reason the block (NOT the head; the head is fine and used in all builds) fails. There's a TON of misinformation in RS groups about this, with builders coming in to try and set things straight but no one listens. There are plenty of other race platforms (Honda K, etc.) with open decks as they provide superior cooling. The problem with the RS block is bad engineering of the outer wall around the cooling jacket between cyl 2+3 that cracks when the naturally higher cylinder wall deflection of an open deck block is increased too much. Speed Perf6ormanc3 has an excellent video on their channel with a cross-section showing this.
The stock block, according to almost every builder, is good to at least 500WHP once you put forged internals in it. A few Euro guys have been running it unmodified higher than that for tens of thousands of miles. If you want to exceed 500WHP it can be done on this block with modifications, but it's much more economical to switch it out for a 2.0TS block.
That being said, putting a big turbo in this car before building the bottom end IS ridiculous, and something you SHOULD be worried about as it points to a lack of knowledge in the person who did it. The "reliable" limit of the stock bottom end is roughly 400WHP (technically it has more to do with torque) and the stock turbo can easily get you there with very little modification (literally just a filter, FMIC, and downpipe) and E30.
Can I save this comment?? 😂 Highly valuable info right here, thank you sir!
Honestly I had no clue there was an RS1 and RS2 I just thought the ST came in packages but as far as those packages go it wouldn’t be devastating like the ST cause I have an ST1 and it kinda sucks as far as seats and radio and all that goes but mine has like 120k on it and it runs great definitely a nice reliable car and I don’t beat on it or anything but would love to upgrade to an RS or type R
Loved my ST1 when I had it. Made it to 150 before the trans started to fail. I was FBO on E30 (E85) then upgraded to the RS. I love the focus platform. I’ve been fortunate enough to not have any serious issues. Only issue was the heater core which was covered with the extended warranty that I purchased from ford
I would like to see that video so I know what to do to my 2000 Ford Focus se motor for more horsepower
Hey Cam, i have a 2017 RS that is stage 2.. I’ve been noticing lack of pops and burbles. Coolant is fine, im on cold plugs with a smaller gap size, and my valves are fully walnut blasted along with ccv/pcv catch cans.. what do you think the issue is?
Depending on what tune, I've heard people say the pops and burbles fade away over time. Reflashing the tune usually helps.
I have a 2017 RS2 also, pops and burbles were fine and got crazy louder and more pops when I replaced the exhaust with AWE Track Edition muffler delete. Tune is all stock.
104k miles on my focus rs, bought it with 98k, she runs like a tits, I went from st to rs as well. Do some launch control videos next for us
Technically there are three wheel options; you can get a optional winter wheel/tires set.
*cries in AZ weather because I forgot about this, very true!
When you say when you put a lot of boost on it it will go boom are you talking about the st or rs?
Should an intercooler on stock tune scare me?
How much was it and how many miles do you have?
Looking at getting a Stealth Gray 17 but has 92k miles sort of scares me guy has it for mid 20s I think I can haggle it down some with the miles and it may be worth it.
I checked out a focus RS 2016 with 22k miles Rebuilt title. Guy wanted 20k but after long negotiation and telling him about details I would need to fix got him down to 15k should I buy it?
Do you even have to ask? Damn…
Buddy, do check your oil levels again as they seem way above recommended levels from Ford. You can verify through the car manual.
She’s right on the full line when warmed up. I always triple check
What's up with Cobb maps?
is this rs tuned?
Savings in the bank 😆.
Gotta pay to play and always be ready.
Have you sold the car? I’d love to potentially buy it.
There are a few of these with low miles around 30k right that look choice.
Currently looking at a 2017 with 18,000 miles for $37k
I’m having a hard time understating why or rather how ford’s engineering team sat down to design this car and thought hmm… should we give it a limited slip diff? And somehow landed on no.
At stock power, the stock clutch can handle 10,000 launch control launches *under warranty*
I should’ve been more diligent about doing this before buying it from the stealership. Dents, cracking paint, missing trim inside. I was blinded by how much I wanted the car🤣
Seriously happens to the best of us!! Even me!!
got my friends rs about 10 months ago, with about 30k miles. best purchase ever, this is the car that got me into cars, the one that wanted me to get my driving license 😅
I used to have one until my ownership was cut short against my will, whole different story. Was my dream car and greatest achievement at the time, and seeing them still makes me react in different ways. All I can remember is the strong idea that it was not comfortable enough for a daily driver, and not cool enough for a weekend car. You are also paying way more for very little added performance over an ST. Prospective buyers this is THE biggest point about the car. I was given a full refund on mine and did not bother finding another, something to keep in mind.
Not mentioning the winter wheel package, for shame...
Rs2 comes with an lsd.... that is a huge deal
Hi
I hate plastic boost with plastic intake manifold and valve cover....................
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Wary and weary mean different things
Don’t these cars have hella problems
Big time.
No idea what anything "hella" refers to.
@PasleyAviationPhotography means "alot"
1st
You should know that the engine is unreliable just like all ECOBOOST Engines are and that the Civic Type R is a better Car.
You just told us everything to look out for in car nothing special of a rs
Better off buying the mazdaspeed 3 than the focus bad engine block defect
Nothing wrong with them. Just not built for big power from factory and that’s ok
@Jay Dee the open deck has not “had cars breaking down” the car isn’t built for big power and there is nothing wrong with that like he stated. If you want a car for straight line speed then buy something else.
You talking about early 2016 blocks from Spain?
I think I’m ready to send it and get mine 🥲🥲🥲🥲🥲🥲