It's always a pleasure listening to Dr. ShivShankar Menon. His deep understanding of the subject at hand and his erudite view, throws a lot of interesting perspectives to the listener. Thanks for doing this interview with him!
I don't know where the hell is the public of india wasting their time, they should have invest it quickly in the knowledgeble content like this.❤ Keep growing 'Exploring Minds'👍
India is not wasting time. India has NO capabilities. If India has capabilities, it won't get conquered by so many foreigners in history. This is STATE OF EXISTENCE. They can ONLY TALK. They don't have the ability to DO ANYTHING. They will definitely improve and progress, but only rise as the humanity improves and progresses. They are always that mediocre something on in the back of the bus. Keeps talking, and let the bus drive them forward.
Bro, you have great speakers & content...please market it well like trailer / coming soon & release 1 prodcast per week & major clips in different channel as super speakers & content like this with less views is painful to see...All The Best
Gr8 to hear this !! With all due respect 57:15, this idea of national interest triumphing domestic political interest is a privilege that foreign policy practitioners enjoy. That may not be the case with bureaucrats dealing with subjects like health, education, infrastructure etc.
There is so much clarity on his thought process on the economy and security; it baffles me as to why India was such a mess when he was one of the most important people in India.
Menon is clear minded and knows what he speaks. About the interviewer……….. Further, it appears to me that Menon has an axe to grind with PM Modi, or his way of work, especially when he talks of BRI. At least, to me it didn’t appear that India went around even obliquely conveying that ‘I told you so’ in this context. There are several other indicators too that confirm this. There is some irritation in his voice on present dispensation, but the reasons are best known to him.
As a NSA Menon didn't leave any mark - he was a mediocre IAS officer but with a false belief that he is the most intelligent NSA India ever produced. So was another NSA Mr Narayanan. They did nothing to protect the security of the country when bomb blasts were common so was Maoist attacks.
This is the same guy who refused and discouraged and justified and advocated for nor punishing Pakistan for 26/11 attacks. He even chided people who asked for India' to punish Pakistan. Dude is and was highly problematic and after retirement loves to lecture people what to do and. What not to do
He never once spoke about the rooted out Kashmiri pandits or the jawans that are get martyred everyday. Civilians have to double down on appeasement it seems 😂 as if these jokers are not enough 🙄
Nsa under whom indian intelligence agenciesignored 7-8 warnings from foreign intelligence agencies that mumbai terror attack was going to happen through sea route, yet couldnt prevent. Then gave a dossier to Pakistan in protest.thats his legacy.
This man in 2020 asked for US intervention in indian domestic politics when trump was in power and said the US has given free run to the modi government .
the chinese don't care a hoot about anyone. they are clear in their minds about the middle kingdom. all else will have to pay tributes. economic growth & military 🪖 readiness will keep the chinese at bay, not cheap talk.
India itself through it's UNDF fund donates to open society. So when Modi himself is in the bed with Open Society 🙄.... I don’t think anyone else matters.
@@colarunjoshi the actual document is on the website of indian permanent mission to the UN. Or you could just search "Open Society indian permanent UN" you'll get the actual documents.
Just some historical fact here: 1. In 1842, the 1st opium war was fought by China against the British invasion. Also in the same year, Indian seized the opportunity, initialised a sudden attack and backstabbed the Chinese at Ladakh. 2. During the great British rule of india, indian troop had helped their white masters to plunger Chinese towns & villages, committed arsons, massacre and mass rapes in China. 3. From 1959 -1961, a great famine broke out in China causing million of deaths there. At the same period, again, Nehru seized this opportunity and started the forward policy at sino-indo border and advanced their forward military posts beyond Indian own held positions at the border then, destroying the chinese forts and killed Chinese soldiers indiscriminately . Ultimately it lead to the total retaliation from Chinese PLA in 1962 a.k.a. SIno-Indo war.
The so called actual line of control by Indian: The problem is, there was actually NO BORDER between China and India. The so-called BORDER was drawn by the Brits on the map. China never recognized it and India as nation was not even a nation when those lines were drawn unilaterally by Brits. Brits engineered the Tibetan Independence twice. The renegades signed the paper with Brits claiming those lines were legit. But Chinese central government (both during Nationalist government and during Communist government) came into Tibet and crushed the independence movement. But from Brits perspective, they got someone signed some papers and that is that. It does not matter if there is legitimacy. Brits just wanted confusion, and an excuse hang onto whatever they drawn on the map. Then India as a nation was founded. The largest servant group, the Hindus, took over the India the Subcontinent conquered by their former White Master the Brits. And the Hindus claimed whatever the Brits claimed. So, here we are, 70 years later.
During opium war, 'Indians' were the willing soldiers doing the raping and killing. Indians were not there, not created yet. The kingdom of Kashmir were at ladahk.
India top historian- India claims on McMahon line and aksai Chin has absolutely no basis. "India's Stand on China Border Irrational but Nehru's Handling Was Irresponsible" Avtar Singh Bhasin. The wire. Karan Thapar
lol... again. Another self delusional comparison that Chinese and Indian are similar. - The armies in Shang dynasty defeated the indo Aryan whereas indian got conquered by them. proof: The captured leaders were used for human sacrifice and their soldiers remains were still kept inside the museum in Henan province for display. - Chinese culture, philosophy and social norms e.g. integrity, honesty, piety, humbleness were long existed since their Zhou dynasty. - Current systems that are still practised by the Chinese e.g. political, diplomatic, military tactics/ strategy, writings.. They are the same or similar systems that existed since Qin dynasty. - Religious: The only belief the Chinese have are their ancestry heritage and their pride as Chinese. Chinese is the only standing continue Civilisation on Earth in the world today whereas India is totally a different entity to the ancient Harrapan civilisation or the Asoka's one.
Yes After some thoughts, I came to same conclusion. There never was a great indian civilsation. Maybe some small 'village' civilisations and they are mainly dead. India have almost always consist of village kingdoms untill arival of british.
For history pls call surya roy sir and praveen mohan they are amazing and talk about dharmic revival. Besides the veducation founder can also be great guest at your amazing podcast who is working to re establish gurukul school.Also Sahana singh who is based in usa to talk about ancient indian education.Venkatesh rangan sir is a great historian too who has published three books and worked upon ancient indian conquests and our great civilization.Raghava krishna ,the founder of brhat is doing great work.Also rajeev malhotra of USA who wrote the book Snakes of Ganga Also ,Capt praveen chaturvedi who made sahib movie is great person who advocates for our santana cause and tells how it has been systematically destroyed.Shaleen wadhwani is a great art educator,curator and talks greatly on how British looted of our riches and how it can be repatriated Also vedveer arya who talks about correct chronology of Indian history.Abhijit jog who is an author also challenges the leftists ideology snd fake history still taught in india.Jay vardhan singh a phd scholar from jnu is also a great history buff
Host please read something and then ask questions , second what the hell is your facial expressions. Menon sir is always great, but host please come up with synchronous questions rather than random questions. Man work hard before taking interview.
He is a congress lackey and was a China - pak sympathetic NSA. Nothing more needs to be said. Best to look up his achievements/rather failures during his tenure as NSA.
We understand your criticism, and as with any leader, examining both successes and failures is key to understanding their impact-thanks for contributing to the discussion.
You forgot! Learn morality! Why the apparent cruelty that Hindus project?.. It is only a matter of perspective. In their belief of Karma, the " victims" need to be kicked more, as a way to redeem them for a better Next Life, and as punishment for bad deeds done in their previous life...
It's always a pleasure listening to Dr. ShivShankar Menon. His deep understanding of the subject at hand and his erudite view, throws a lot of interesting perspectives to the listener. Thanks for doing this interview with him!
Thank you for your kind words! We're glad!
What an insightful interview. Loved the way how the interviewer started asking prepared question and later everything became conversational.
Thank you so much!
Please bring shivshankar menon again. Shivshankar menon is so good.
@@Ethereum1789 Glad you liked it✨
I don't know where the hell is the public of india wasting their time, they should have invest it quickly in the knowledgeble content like this.❤ Keep growing 'Exploring Minds'👍
@@ankushmishra1757 Damn!! Thanks brother, this keeps us going🙌🏻✨
India is not wasting time. India has NO capabilities. If India has capabilities, it won't get conquered by so many foreigners in history. This is STATE OF EXISTENCE. They can ONLY TALK. They don't have the ability to DO ANYTHING. They will definitely improve and progress, but only rise as the humanity improves and progresses. They are always that mediocre something on in the back of the bus. Keeps talking, and let the bus drive them forward.
great insights from Mr Menon. Thank you sir.
We,re glad that you liked it✨🙌🏻
Highly insightful conversation.Thanks for sharing.
@@SanatanBharat-o2r Thank you so much 🤌🏻🫶🏻
Aisa content kisi bhi TH-cam channel me nhi milta
Keep going sir 🎉🎉
@@vinaysonpipre2198 Thank you so much for appreciating!🫶🏻✨
You are a great interviewer
Thank you!🙌
Bro, you have great speakers & content...please market it well like trailer / coming soon & release 1 prodcast per week & major clips in different channel as super speakers & content like this with less views is painful to see...All The Best
@@tejaspatel-j4f Noted Tejas! Thank you for appreciating and feedback🙌🏻✨
Gr8 to hear this !! With all due respect 57:15, this idea of national interest triumphing domestic political interest is a privilege that foreign policy practitioners enjoy. That may not be the case with bureaucrats dealing with subjects like health, education, infrastructure etc.
Absolutely! Health or education may have to balance a wider range of competing interests beyond just national goals.
There is so much clarity on his thought process on the economy and security; it baffles me as to why India was such a mess when he was one of the most important people in India.
Great point! It's often about timing and maybe the broader context we are unaware of.
Menon is clear minded and knows what he speaks. About the interviewer………..
Further, it appears to me that Menon has an axe to grind with PM Modi, or his way of work, especially when he talks of BRI. At least, to me it didn’t appear that India went around even obliquely conveying that ‘I told you so’ in this context. There are several other indicators too that confirm this. There is some irritation in his voice on present dispensation, but the reasons are best known to him.
Intriguing insight
As a NSA Menon didn't leave any mark - he was a mediocre IAS officer but with a false belief that he is the most intelligent NSA India ever produced. So was another NSA Mr Narayanan. They did nothing to protect the security of the country when bomb blasts were common so was Maoist attacks.
This is the same guy who refused and discouraged and justified and advocated for nor punishing Pakistan for 26/11 attacks. He even chided people who asked for India' to punish Pakistan.
Dude is and was highly problematic and after retirement loves to lecture people what to do and. What not to do
He never once spoke about the rooted out Kashmiri pandits or the jawans that are get martyred everyday. Civilians have to double down on appeasement it seems 😂 as if these jokers are not enough 🙄
He’s probably only Indian who actually understands China in and out of
So true!
Mr. Menon would have needed all his diplomatic restraint not to have shown the door to the interviewer. 😅
❤ from Pakistan
Very skeptical. Intentions can change in 5 minutes . Capabilities are permanent. Lessons of History. Jai Hind !
True!!
You got an innocent way of asking simple questions. This may not be the right way of getting the best of your guest.
We appreciate your feedback! We’ll definitely dig deeper in future interviews.
Nsa under whom indian intelligence agenciesignored 7-8 warnings from foreign intelligence agencies that mumbai terror attack was going to happen through sea route, yet couldnt prevent. Then gave a dossier to Pakistan in protest.thats his legacy.
You can be good academically, that doesnt mean you are a good leader or you are good at your job.
This man in 2020 asked for US intervention in indian domestic politics when trump was in power and said the US has given free run to the modi government .
the chinese don't care a hoot about anyone. they are clear in their minds about the middle kingdom. all else will have to pay tributes. economic growth & military 🪖 readiness will keep the chinese at bay, not cheap talk.
India cannot match china in any way. Military spending will stagnate india's growth while asean will have rapid growth.
Is he on the board of " open societies "?
India itself through it's UNDF fund donates to open society. So when Modi himself is in the bed with Open Society 🙄.... I don’t think anyone else matters.
@DataCrusade1999 this is news to me. Need for fact check.
@@colarunjoshi the actual document is on the website of indian permanent mission to the UN. Or you could just search "Open Society indian permanent UN" you'll get the actual documents.
@@DataCrusade1999 UN ho hum
@@colarunjoshi ??
Just some historical fact here:
1. In 1842, the 1st opium war was fought by China against the British invasion.
Also in the same year, Indian seized the opportunity, initialised a sudden attack and backstabbed the Chinese at Ladakh.
2. During the great British rule of india, indian troop had helped their white masters to plunger Chinese towns & villages, committed arsons, massacre and mass rapes in China.
3. From 1959 -1961, a great famine broke out in China causing million of deaths there.
At the same period, again, Nehru seized this opportunity and started the forward policy at sino-indo border and advanced their forward military posts beyond Indian own held positions at the border then, destroying the chinese forts and killed Chinese soldiers indiscriminately . Ultimately it lead to the total retaliation from Chinese PLA in 1962 a.k.a. SIno-Indo war.
The so called actual line of control by Indian:
The problem is, there was actually NO BORDER between China and India. The so-called BORDER was drawn by the Brits on the map. China never recognized it and India as nation was not even a nation when those lines were drawn unilaterally by Brits. Brits engineered the Tibetan Independence twice. The renegades signed the paper with Brits claiming those lines were legit. But Chinese central government (both during Nationalist government and during Communist government) came into Tibet and crushed the independence movement. But from Brits perspective, they got someone signed some papers and that is that. It does not matter if there is legitimacy. Brits just wanted confusion, and an excuse hang onto whatever they drawn on the map.
Then India as a nation was founded. The largest servant group, the Hindus, took over the India the Subcontinent conquered by their former White Master the Brits. And the Hindus claimed whatever the Brits claimed. So, here we are, 70 years later.
During opium war, 'Indians' were the willing soldiers doing the raping and killing. Indians were not there, not created yet. The kingdom of Kashmir were at ladahk.
India top historian- India claims on McMahon line and aksai Chin has absolutely no basis. "India's Stand on China Border Irrational but Nehru's Handling Was Irresponsible" Avtar Singh Bhasin.
The wire. Karan Thapar
Menon is a Dravidian. How is he claiming Maurya Dynasty hundreds of kilometres away from Kerala as his own? Fake history 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Go back to school😂 people moved coast to coast and Himalayas to western ghats , there was no “kereka” during Maurian times😂
I can cofirm No KeraKA but Kerala or some kingdoms of.
lol... again. Another self delusional comparison that Chinese and Indian are similar.
- The armies in Shang dynasty defeated the indo Aryan whereas indian got conquered by them. proof: The captured leaders were used for human sacrifice and their soldiers remains were still kept inside the museum in Henan province for display.
- Chinese culture, philosophy and social norms e.g. integrity, honesty, piety, humbleness were long existed since their Zhou dynasty.
- Current systems that are still practised by the Chinese e.g. political, diplomatic, military tactics/ strategy, writings.. They are the same or similar systems that existed since Qin dynasty.
- Religious: The only belief the Chinese have are their ancestry heritage and their pride as Chinese.
Chinese is the only standing continue Civilisation on Earth in the world today whereas India is totally a different entity to the ancient Harrapan civilisation or the Asoka's one.
Yes After some thoughts, I came to same conclusion. There never was a great indian civilsation. Maybe some small 'village' civilisations and they are mainly dead. India have almost always consist of village kingdoms untill arival of british.
For history pls call surya roy sir and praveen mohan they are amazing and talk about dharmic revival.
Besides the veducation founder can also be great guest at your amazing podcast who is working to re establish gurukul school.Also Sahana singh who is based in usa to talk about ancient indian education.Venkatesh rangan sir is a great historian too who has published three books and worked upon ancient indian conquests and our great civilization.Raghava krishna ,the founder of brhat is doing great work.Also rajeev malhotra of USA who wrote the book Snakes of Ganga
Also ,Capt praveen chaturvedi who made sahib movie is great person who advocates for our santana cause and tells how it has been systematically destroyed.Shaleen wadhwani is a great art educator,curator and talks greatly on how British looted of our riches and how it can be repatriated Also vedveer arya who talks about correct chronology of Indian history.Abhijit jog who is an author also challenges the leftists ideology snd fake history still taught in india.Jay vardhan singh a phd scholar from jnu is also a great history buff
Great suggestions! Thank you and stay tuned, it’s coming super soon!
@exploringminds_podcast Also please call janmajeya sinha head of BCG india.He has great insights on geo economics and geopolitics
Noted!
Host please read something and then ask questions , second what the hell is your facial expressions. Menon sir is always great, but host please come up with synchronous questions rather than random questions. Man work hard before taking interview.
He is a congress lackey and was a China - pak sympathetic NSA. Nothing more needs to be said. Best to look up his achievements/rather failures during his tenure as NSA.
We understand your criticism, and as with any leader, examining both successes and failures is key to understanding their impact-thanks for contributing to the discussion.
Learn Mandarin and become prosperous! And learn some discipline! ...from the Chinese!
You forgot! Learn morality! Why the apparent cruelty that Hindus project?.. It is only a matter of perspective. In their belief of Karma, the " victims" need to be kicked more, as a way to redeem them for a better Next Life, and as punishment for bad deeds done in their previous life...
So untouchables or dalits are not given help, despise and treated as disposable... But they get a better life, NEXT Life hopefully.