When the Chinese talk about India, the conversation is about business, culture, person-to-person relations, technology, infrastructure building. When Indians talk about China they are fixated about the border. Every one of them is a on a one-trick pony that does nothing for what matters to ordinary Indians' prosperity and advancement. That is why India can't catch up with China.
@@harris2057 sir iam not supporting anyone but in the interview mr Menon told that they reached to advani ji for their opinion and discussion during UPA
Lets see who is Kapil sibal.. A. Pope comes and asks convert india to xtian..Kapil sibal will advocate and work for pope. B. Pakistani extremists ask sibal he will defend them against India. C. Long list of such cases reflecting his character.
Reading a comment posted, I came to the conclusion it was the Indians who were undoubtedly the aggressor in the 1962 war...Nothing to do with British, just pure imperialistic behavior. If you could, prove me wrong, not with "simply you are wrong" but with more convincing arguments.... The comment posted [Nehru was a brilliant strategist.. Nehru actually invaded china in 1962 when china was begging for food, took advantage of weakened china caused by the famine of 59-62 with 30 millions deads. Moreover, China had a big fallout with the soviet and India was still in the soviet camp, with USA hoping the famine in china would topple the communist regime. USA-Soviet was also distracted with the Cuban missile crisis. In short, china was completely isolated and at its weakest point. Not only, the Indian army was chased off, the china famed light infantry retook southern Tibet that had been earlier taken over by India.. However, the famine had a toll and they retreated from Arundel Pradesh. It was lucky break for India. Consequently, both nations lost no territory. Nehru had been successful in annexing land and nations for previous 13 years. Nehru did no more annexation and passed on 2 years later. No other Indian did any better. If china had planned the Invasion, they wouldn't have retreated. It is ridiculous to plan an invasion at time of being completely isolated as a country while having massive famine with only thoughts of finding more food, and then having succeeded with loss of lives and precious resources, to simply give back won land. ] Maybe food starvation had destroyed their brain or their ability to manage land retaken from India then.
Correct. This point is hardly discussed in India media. I got a wind of this from Henderson Brooks-Bhagat report. The information of Arunachal Pradesh is new to me. Can you let me know about the reference.
#1 Galwan is not Annexed #2 Exactly as described - China has taken a huge swathe of No Mans Land while we were sleeping due to Intelligence failure. They had a disadvantage in 2018-2019 , now they have an advantage. #3 While we were busy hiding details and projecting the image of super toughness and in general spending time on blusterig and blubbering - They consolidated everything and have achieved significant gains for their efforts. This Basic Attitude of Indias and Indians - To hide mistakes, To twist mistakes into achievements, To fudge the truth - all for some EGO is the key to all our miseries Vaccination Bungle - Same Reason, Demo - Same Reason Rather than Admit Mistakes - we would rather keep propagating lies and putting logic below the ground.  P.S:- Now Some Sources say that the Flag was not unfurled anywhere near the conflict Zone. Yet in China - they clearly say the flag was unfurled to commemorate the spot of the Galwan Martyrs. So far from Day 1 - China has always been accurate while we have always been dithering and fudging data So I firmly believe our “Sources” are again Hiding and Fudging the information.
Mr. Sibal, you did an excellent job. You asked the right questions and kept the ball rolling. Mr. Shiv Shankar Menon, Mr. Subramanian Swamy and Mr. Ashok Kantha were emotional for India, not rational. Mr. Menon mentioned that India's Mountain Core, which was raised recently, was used to counter Chinese in the Himalayas. The India-China border is 3440 km, and India's 14-core Army can not protect that mountainous border. Is the former Secretary of Foreign Affairs, Mr. Menon, naive or trying to fool people? Mr. Swamy also boasted that India can teach Chinese lessons in Aksi Chin. Does he know what he is talking about? The Chinese will indulge in a fistfight with the Indians, and there will be a total blackout of its infrastructure, Railway system, Communications, Electricity Grid and the military communication systems of the Indian Armed Services. The Chinese will destroy all Indian infrastructure within the first six hours on the high mountainous terrain. India does not stand a chance to stay seven days in a war with China, Strategically, operationally and Tactically. I have knowingly missed out on cyber, space and electromagnetic warfare. Have some sense, gentlemen; do not fool the Indian people; the only option for India and China is a peaceful resolution of the border dispute, which turned into a false point after the Revocation of Article 370 and unifying Ladakh, a disputed territory into India. India must reverse that to find any peace; otherwise, that one blunder would cost India two trillion dollars in lost opportunity and buy high-maintenance European and American junk, like Rafael’s.
@@zaffazad4040 these gentlemen (DR. SS) have lived and been part of more wars than you. With his turf in the bureaucracy and Army , I think he knows what he's talking about !
@murtymanda2734 they dont know anything. China will destroy india. They have the might. Also pravin Sawhney has been warning about china capabilities which have picked up recent traction with the old fashioned military thinkers of india
Abrogation of 370 and drawing of india 's map to include aksai chin is a signal that india wants everything. It elicit a strong response by china at galwan, after telling pakistan to stand down with the abrogation of 370.
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I enjoyed the program. It was very informative as well as very alerting with respect to current situation in India China relationship and our own leadership on the matter.
Just some historical fact here: 1. In 1842, the 1st opium war was fought by China against the British invasion. Also in the same year, Indian seized the opportunity, initialised a sudden attack and backstabbed the Chinese at Ladakh. 2. During the great British rule of india, indian troop had helped their white masters to plunger Chinese towns & villages, committed arsons, massacre and mass rapes in China. 3. From 1959 -1961, a great famine broke out in China causing million of deaths there. At the same period, again, Nehru seized this opportunity and started the forward policy at sino-indo border and advanced their forward military posts beyond Indian own held positions at the border then, destroying the chinese forts and killed Chinese soldiers indiscriminately . Ultimately it lead to the total retaliation from Chinese PLA in 1962 a.k.a. SIno-Indo war.
The so called actual line of control by Indian: The problem is, there was actually NO BORDER between China and India. The so-called BORDER was drawn by the Brits on the map. China never recognized it and India as nation was not even a nation when those lines were drawn unilaterally by Brits. Brits engineered the Tibetan Independence twice. The renegades signed the paper with Brits claiming those lines were legit. But Chinese central government (both during Nationalist government and during Communist government) came into Tibet and crushed the independence movement. But from Brits perspective, they got someone signed some papers and that is that. It does not matter if there is legitimacy. Brits just wanted confusion, and an excuse hang onto whatever they drawn on the map. Then India as a nation was founded. The largest servant group, the Hindus, took over the India the Subcontinent conquered by their former White Master the Brits. And the Hindus claimed whatever the Brits claimed. So, here we are, 70 years later.
Indian side will never admit they are ever wrong. They keep saying its their lands even though it is disputed lands. Even Britain has accepted that Tibet was historically part of china, but the Indians do not recognise this and think it was only from 1959.
Shiv Shankar, @ 27:00 talks like a true Indian politician. Talks a whole load of nothing, "We know how to handle it, it will take some time"... Yes Shiv we've heard it before and that time will never come! We need solutions and a plan like Swamy has, not wish-washy, "Trust me, bro" politics! that's the issue. BJP out!!!
Greeting of the day. Respected legends you all venter in your profession but when come to nation and you guys are taking on the serious issue of the country. As between you two are eminent lawyer as well as MP of the country. If goverment is not listening your voice then you guys should make your voice more louder just imagine Hon'ble Seniors Adv Kapil sibal & Swamy when they are on road to rays there voice how much support they will gate. There voice will be the cause for the goverment to listen by the prime minister. So i request you legend to raise these voice on road make it primary consern for the goverment because this more important then any thing else. Thank you
China has without firing a single bullet across its borders has settled its boundaries with 12 of its land neighbors. While we now have land disputes with Nepal also, So we can not blame China alone on our borders not demarcated. If India agrees to form a NATO like military alliance among BRICS countries the Chinese will gladly settle our border dispute also.
. India claims on Mcmohan line and aksai Chin has absolutely no basis. "India's Stand on China Border Irrational but Nehru's Handling Was Irresponsible" Avtar Singh Bhasin. India respectable Media The wire. Karan Thapar
India is an artificial country put together by the British colonists. When these colonists left, India should have been gone, too. Now it claimed to have inherited the British colonists. The very foundation of India was built upon the colonism it also condemned. The very existence of India is self-contradictory.
Always always insightful to hear Amb. Menon 🙏🙏. It's interesting at 39:30, how the agreements came into being as a result of the dialogue process that followed PM Gandhi's visit in 1988. We were able to establish a relationship with China without giving much concessions to it on territory unlike the Central Asian countries & even Russia. So we did better than anyone else than China itself as is rightly put. However, an internal political dialogue that is required for a settlement on boundary is done in these countries & politics has moved further on, whereas that part of work is left for India to do.
Sibal shahab my question China annexed Tibet but no developed power came to save Tibet but when Indira Gandhi liberated east Pakistan in 1971 USA send 7 th fleet against India. Even west divided united India in 1947 making weak India against China. Why ? you explanation on my question is highly informative appreciable.
answer to why?..there was no cold war camps...during tibet annexation..india had the moral right to save it..but memon/nehru didnt allow it coz of communist love...
@@stallionspirit1576sir it's not only communist love and all. India was at a terror stage in all sectors post independence. Nehru had to do a lot to make India into a stable country. Iam not supporting Nehru or anyone. But we have to understand the context also.
Very fruitful discussion here and everybody is agreeing over and is concerned about the issues involved but the real issue is the present leadership is not at all aggrieved and also not agreeing to what you all are saying here bcz according to them everything is alright and will remain alright. They know more than 90-95 pc people are not aware of what is happening and for that reason it is not so important and perhaps not in the interest of the country. What is in their own interest is more important than national interest. Very unfortunate situation we are seeing in the country for the last couple of years when they are not believing in taking into confidence anybody.
. India claims on Mcmohan line and aksai Chin has absolutely no basis. "India's Stand on China Border Irrational but Nehru's Handling Was Irresponsible" Avtar Singh Bhasin. India respectable Media The wire. Karan Thapar
Swamy suggesting that India becomes a proxy of USA to fight China so as to get back the territory is alarming. And him talking about having meetings with external officials, even more alarming.
Do India want to be subjugated to the US as Jaishankar prefers or be sovereign as the basic principles of the BRICS++? Peace should be something that we want so that the economic developments can proceed well. Thanks to these gentlemen for their discussions that are enlightening.
Kapil Sibal addressing listeners as "lay people" drags the ethos of the discussion down to the level of a soliloquy, where “we talk, and we only listen!” It’s less of a conversation and more like speaking to walls that only reflect his thoughts, leaving the rest of us to wonder if our role is merely to mirror rather than engage.
Indian land crust is going about 1 CM below Chinese land physically, resultantly, repeated EARTH QUAKES occur in the hills of Southern Himalaya Region viz UttrKhand, Himachal, Bihar, Assam. So physically fixing Indo - Chinese Land Boundary is not feasible for future 1000 years or so.
Swamy's is out of Jealousy But Kapil is a Sly Fox pretending to be a gentleman. The other 2 are absolute gentlemen .....to the extent of litterly accomodate them.
Excellent perspective. Agree with Dr Swamy. We have to take head on whenever situation arises + what Mr Menon said that we also create issues for China is the option must be considered with utmost seriousness and away from Chest thumping politicians and godi media. Save diplomacy from Public gallery.
This discussion also required to show some light on population aging of China and it's strategic importance vis a vis border issue specifically scenario after 40 or so years 😮
swamy: everythign (with chibna) has happened in the last few years reason: bjp (unlike congress)..vigorously obstructed to china salami slicing...and had upperhand in LAC..,becoz of congress policy of neglecting infrastucture development in border areas (as per nudge nudge wink wink arrangement between congress and CCP)
Sir why should China come here and fight. From Tibet their airforce can enter India. China's Air force is advanced and the US is aware of that. Their hypersonic missile can land anywhere. This is in case there is a war
Mr. Sibal How nice to have such discussion where you eminent personalities get amused discussing against Modi government but never mentioned the root of the problem generated by Neheru.
Understanding : 1. China has an advantage on us, economically they have strengths build over last 25 years, so they will control to their advantages and Militarily they have upper hand as they captured our land, and are on our side of LAC. So then politically they won't back down. 2. Firstly, to normalise relations with China, condition should be to go to pre April 2020 level. 3. In long term, To counter China, we need to build our Economic Strength, military strength, which takes next 25 years and we can't do it without China, so we need to normalise relations economically. 3. To do this, we need to resist them in borders, get help from West, form groupings, etc. 3. India don't want war, we don't want to be a puppet of West and fight like Ukraine, they don't fight for us, but we need their support to build our capacities and strength.
Indeed! Solution: Get BJP OUT!!! They are a coward party. They even provoked this situation with China and then they have the nerve to tell USA, "who are you to tell us not to buy Russian oil"... when they need USA. They would rather profit from re-selling russian oil than care about our borders. Make no mistake, our politicians are buying Russian oil for THEIR OWN benefit, not India's!!
Move Capital from Delhi to somewhere South. Delhi is so close to both Pakistan and China. At least we need to have some discussion on this. Don't we??? 😮
As some one pointed out, indians dont need big GDP to counter chinese threat at border History had shown, Small countries with ragtag army had won battles against big enemies Some examples are vietnam, taliban over big super powers Indians need strong will power in political leadership to check continous threat from china and Pakistan
Indian politician need guts to say that Tibet is invaded by china in year 1959. Border between India and china comes after only Chinese invaded Tibet. Before that there is no any border dispute among India and Tibet. So unless Tibet problem was not solved border disputes will be remain forever. So it’s up to Indian government to decide what to do. Jai hind Jai Tibet
Sir, It is now the right time to resolve the broader issue bringing all stagholders in confidence as there is no virtual LAC/LOC demarcated so far. As the China diverting our attention on boarder issue with India keeping in ambiance or by sharing in a friendly gesture. As their attention going to concentrate on Taiwan's semiconductor chips. After that the pearl garland is done for SEA.
Nothing makes our adversaries (whether on the east, far east, west or far west) more happy than when Modi or Rahul Gandhi go abroad and be-little their political opponents in India.
The guy wearing yellow doesn't realise China has drones and missiles and do not need to send foot soldiers down to the Indian border to do a shooting war.
krishna menon (the real author of discovery of india)...and hard-core communist..was the primary reason....nehru prohibited using airforce in 1962 indo-china war..that saved china from a defeat,...
Saved China from a defeat?😅 Go and read to learn about the Korean civil war. US led 16 countries army with powerful air dominance and artillery could not defeat China volunteer army.
India claims on Mcmohan line and aksai Chin has absolutely no basis. "India's Stand on China Border Irrational but Nehru's Handling Was Irresponsible" Avtar Singh Bhasin. India respectable Media The wire. Karan Thapar
Reading a comment posted, I came to the conclusion it was the Indians who were undoubtedly the aggressor in the 1962 war...Nothing to do with British, just pure imperialistic behavior. If you could, prove me wrong, not with "simply you are wrong" but with more convincing arguments.... The comment posted [Nehru was a brilliant strategist.. Nehru actually invaded china in 1962 when china was begging for food, took advantage of weakened china caused by the famine of 59-62 with 30 millions deads. Moreover, China had a big fallout with the soviet and India was still in the soviet camp, with USA hoping the famine in china would topple the communist regime. USA-Soviet was also distracted with the Cuban missile crisis. In short, china was completely isolated and at its weakest point. Not only, the Indian army was chased off, the china famed light infantry retook southern Tibet that had been earlier taken over by India.. However, the famine had a toll and they retreated from Arundel Pradesh. It was lucky break for India. Consequently, both nations lost no territory. Nehru had been successful in annexing land and nations for previous 13 years. Nehru did no more annexation and passed on 2 years later. No other Indian did any better. If china had planned the Invasion, they wouldn't have retreated. It is ridiculous to plan an invasion at time of being completely isolated as a country while having massive famine with only thoughts of finding more food, and then having succeeded with loss of lives and precious resources, to simply give back won land. ] Maybe food starvation had destroyed their brain or their ability to manage land retaken from India then.
Modi made a strategic mistake 4 years ago to instigate a border conflict with China. Modi thought that China was tied up with USA on trade war and tech war, so, China would make concession to India. Unfortunately, China gave India a bloody nose. Worst yet, Trump left office soon after, along went his promise of more FDI and friendshoring. In the last 4 years, India kept a cordial relationship with Biden, through QUAD and Indo-Pacific meetings. But there was little FDI and friendshoring, except for some hot money flooding the Indian stock market. There is no long-term investment in infrastructure and manufacturing ecosystem. The election result, with Modi losing the majority vote, shows this situation, where it seems India GDP is growing, yet there is little real jobs created for common folks. As result, Modi has to make a change. And that change is having a more friendly relationship with China, in hope for some Chinese investment in infrastructure and manufacturing ecosystem. Thus, the disengagement in border conflict, as the first step toward a thawed relationship. Here comes the curve ball. Trump WON the US election. What now? Is there any change in India China relationship? We will see.
@@biggpicture2930 "Trust" is such a loaded word. What is trust? That someone will "give you something out of good will?" And when you did not get that something, you won't "trust" them? For example, Nehru made that "Look North" campaign to inch into South Tibet. Did he "trust" the Chinese that they will just sit still and watch? Likewise, when Modi made a move, did he "trust" that Chinese, who were busy with Trump's trade war and tech war, just let him get away with it? Trust? What is it? I don't understand Indians keep using this word. Have you ever heard Chinese use the word? Every action has a reaction. You just need to handle the reaction. If you don't have the CAPABILITY to handle the reaction, then you are not at the position of power to make that action. That is the main reason why India's aspiration does not match with their capability. They have huge aspiration, and they take action on those aspiration, yet they don't have the capability to sustain those aspiration and action. Thus, they tend to resort to the "trust" word to gloss over that situation. "Chinese gave us a bloody nose. We cannot trust them!" Sounds good? Sound like you are in the right? But have you ever wondered why you got a bloody nose to begin with?
indira gandhi (deference to russia coz of lal bahadur shastri) was the primary reason...US replaced india with China in 1970s...and made it a manufacturing superpower....and created a 15-20 year gap between the economies...
What bullshit.. India was always with Soviet until it broke up in 1990. It sought protection from soviet against USA.. Because India had been annexing neighboring countries without US's permission.
What bullshxtIndia was always with Soviet until it broke up in 1990. It sought protection from soviet against USA.. Because India had been annexing neighboring countries without US's permission.
It's difficult to listen to some peoples' ego and self-denial of their contribution to the current status of the China-India border issue. If China looms large now or occupied Indian territory, then in all probability it happened on their watch. However, to mobilise 60,000 troops to oppose pChina's earlier effort and risk a major war is not a characterisation of a meek India nor an India throwing her hands up in surrender, despite the China monster. Much credit has to be accorded the Indian leadership as they seek a mutually respectful terms for a relationship with China.
No problems Sirs, Agniveers are there who can do everything right and if still nothing happens , we are having vast area of land on our borders and if out of that if some is surrendered in exchange of handsome amount of money, it will not make much difference. We want only power to continue and the money will flow automatically. And you know money begets money and money can control everything including power, whether to remain in power or to retain the power.
China has been our Neighbor for 4000 years and we have never fought with each other ( Except 1962). In the world you can not name any two neighbors who have such a long period of peaceful co-existence. Both India and China have been Civilizational states and not Nations. This concept of Sovereign nations is a western concept which the world now has started implementing in the last 3 centuries only
@Red.bulldozer3 top indian historian revealed.... India claims on Mcmohan line and aksai Chin has absolutely no basis. "India's Stand on China Border Irrational but Nehru's Handling Was Irresponsible" Avtar Singh Bhasin. The wire. Karan Thapar
Emperor Xi of the Middle Kingdom had to show his toughness to his domestic audience and showed his hands too quickly to the west . And he was incredibly stupid to seek a tough posturing against India around the same time. India needs China as much as China needs both the west and India for trade- it doesn’t have a market big enough to take care of all the capacities built. A decoupling will not happen but the indomitable control over supply chain is now being actively challenged globally. In that context , China has a lot to loose to keep the rapprochement with India at bay even with a position of strength. Geopolitics is volatile, nobody has the last words today.
It is the right time to resolve the LAC issue with China if there's a political will at this juncture .As there is no agreed LAC/LOC virtually. As now the China is going to concentrate on the Taiwan issue for the Semi- conductore salloni-size
kapil ,PM Should Concern ,Neighbouring Country China ,Bangladesh,Nepal ,Sri Lanka ,Maldive ,Afghanistan ,Pakistan For Internal Security , Manipur 597 Days Old Conflict ,External Aggression From Myanmar is Any Example !!!
Funny...to not have a military personnel in the discussion...the actual people who execute things on ground...these people have never ever been in high altitude ..all for show..but no go...
Military personnel actually live in a bubble and brag about there fake heroism and cannot speak on facts and spread lies continuously . Look what generals did in Kargil war misleading even government about ground situation to avoid questioned and hide there incompetence ...
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Dr. Swami idea of resolving the issue with help from other countries is not feasible. India is fully capable of handling independent action. It’s the political system from both sides didn’t want to work on the resolution . Very good discussion as always. Thanks 🙏🏽
When the Chinese talk about India, the conversation is about business, culture, person-to-person relations, technology, infrastructure building. When Indians talk about China they are fixated about the border. Every one of them is a on a one-trick pony that does nothing for what matters to ordinary Indians' prosperity and advancement. That is why India can't catch up with China.
Great discussion. When it comes to our nation's sovereignty, irrespective of political parties everyone should unite with a common goal.
does the modi regime even bother reaching out to opposition? have the guts to name the problem here.
@@KhanFamilyTTGHbecause opposition when was in power never reached to them it's mutual
@@harris2057 sir iam not supporting anyone but in the interview mr Menon told that they reached to advani ji for their opinion and discussion during UPA
Lets see who is Kapil sibal..
A. Pope comes and asks convert india to xtian..Kapil sibal will advocate and work for pope.
B. Pakistani extremists ask sibal he will defend them against India.
C. Long list of such cases reflecting his character.
@@KhanFamilyTTGH Unite to bully? As India does all the time!!
Thanks
Self interest of Self first, thereafter of Self's political outfit. National interest means nothing for Narendra Modi or RSS BJP.
Reading a comment posted, I came to the conclusion it was the Indians who were undoubtedly the aggressor in the 1962 war...Nothing to do with British, just pure imperialistic behavior. If you could, prove me wrong, not with "simply you are wrong" but with more convincing arguments.... The comment posted
[Nehru was a brilliant strategist.. Nehru actually invaded china in 1962 when china was begging for food, took advantage of weakened china caused by the famine of 59-62 with 30 millions deads. Moreover, China had a big fallout with the soviet and India was still in the soviet camp, with USA hoping the famine in china would topple the communist regime. USA-Soviet was also distracted with the Cuban missile crisis. In short, china was completely isolated and at its weakest point.
Not only, the Indian army was chased off, the china famed light infantry retook southern Tibet that had been earlier taken over by India.. However, the famine had a toll and they retreated from Arundel Pradesh. It was lucky break for India. Consequently, both nations lost no territory. Nehru had been successful in annexing land and nations for previous 13 years. Nehru did no more annexation and passed on 2 years later. No other Indian did any better.
If china had planned the Invasion, they wouldn't have retreated. It is ridiculous to plan an invasion at time of being completely isolated as a country while having massive famine with only thoughts of finding more food, and then having succeeded with loss of lives and precious resources, to simply give back won land. ]
Maybe food starvation had destroyed their brain or their ability to manage land retaken from India then.
I agree with you.
India also gained Sikkim merger too.
After independence, India adopted brutish India's expansionist policy.
@@Jin-oq2qu you heard of greater germany or greater japan? India got greater india.. akhand bharat....
Sorry, what’s this?
Correct. This point is hardly discussed in India media. I got a wind of this from Henderson Brooks-Bhagat report. The information of Arunachal Pradesh is new to me. Can you let me know about the reference.
#1 Galwan is not Annexed
#2 Exactly as described - China has taken a huge swathe of No Mans Land while we were sleeping due to Intelligence failure. They had a disadvantage in 2018-2019 , now they have an advantage.
#3 While we were busy hiding details and projecting the image of super toughness and in general spending time on blusterig and blubbering - They consolidated everything and have achieved significant gains for their efforts.
This Basic Attitude of Indias and Indians - To hide mistakes, To twist mistakes into achievements, To fudge the truth - all for some EGO is the key to all our miseries
Vaccination Bungle - Same Reason, Demo - Same Reason
Rather than Admit Mistakes - we would rather keep propagating lies and putting logic below the ground.

P.S:- Now Some Sources say that the Flag was not unfurled anywhere near the conflict Zone.
Yet in China - they clearly say the flag was unfurled to commemorate the spot of the Galwan Martyrs.
So far from Day 1 - China has always been accurate while we have always been dithering and fudging data
So I firmly believe our “Sources” are again Hiding and Fudging the information.
Bot CCP Acccount.
Mr. Sibal, you did an excellent job. You asked the right questions and kept the ball rolling. Mr. Shiv Shankar Menon, Mr. Subramanian Swamy and Mr. Ashok Kantha were emotional for India, not rational. Mr. Menon mentioned that India's Mountain Core, which was raised recently, was used to counter Chinese in the Himalayas. The India-China border is 3440 km, and India's 14-core Army can not protect that mountainous border. Is the former Secretary of Foreign Affairs, Mr. Menon, naive or trying to fool people?
Mr. Swamy also boasted that India can teach Chinese lessons in Aksi Chin. Does he know what he is talking about? The Chinese will indulge in a fistfight with the Indians, and there will be a total blackout of its infrastructure, Railway system, Communications, Electricity Grid and the military communication systems of the Indian Armed Services. The Chinese will destroy all Indian infrastructure within the first six hours on the high mountainous terrain. India does not stand a chance to stay seven days in a war with China, Strategically, operationally and Tactically. I have knowingly missed out on cyber, space and electromagnetic warfare.
Have some sense, gentlemen; do not fool the Indian people; the only option for India and China is a peaceful resolution of the border dispute, which turned into a false point after the Revocation of Article 370 and unifying Ladakh, a disputed territory into India. India must reverse that to find any peace; otherwise, that one blunder would cost India two trillion dollars in lost opportunity and buy high-maintenance European and American junk, like Rafael’s.
You are talking as if Bharat give away entire north east india to China.
The present Bharat of Modi is not that of the past India
@@zaffazad4040 these gentlemen (DR. SS) have lived and been part of more wars than you. With his turf in the bureaucracy and Army , I think he knows what he's talking about !
Peace and china . ... Duniya palat jaegi lekin ye dono ghatna ek saath nahi ho sakti.
@murtymanda2734 they dont know anything. China will destroy india. They have the might. Also pravin Sawhney has been warning about china capabilities which have picked up recent traction with the old fashioned military thinkers of india
Abrogation of 370 and drawing of india 's map to include aksai chin is a signal that india wants everything. It elicit a strong response by china at galwan, after telling pakistan to stand down with the abrogation of 370.
This debate is very knowledgeable, waiting to hear more on different subjects. Thank you.
Excellent 👍👍 presentation.It is a treat to listen such expert pannel in Central Hall discussion.Thanks.
Wonderful discussion. All eminent personalities. Hats off to Mr. Kapil Sibal.
Great insights on contemporary Indo-China relations. Worth watching.
Very good discussion and enlightening.
Great and very informative discussion. Quite open too. Hope those in authority listen to the points discussed for the better of the country!
For these type of sessions it will be helpful to have a map displayed during the discussion. It will benefit the viewer.
Always a fan of swamy's fierce approach.
Wonderful video, a lot to learn from them
Very educative conversation. Thank you so much for the clarity
Very nice concrete discussion... Liked very much
Excellent discussion on an important subject. A very good panel
Indian - Chinese land Boundary was never fixed in any physical mode in last 2000 years nor it's needed now.
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I am watching it because of Dr.Subramaniam swamy
When will the pm listen to Dr. Swamy’s advice on China
Nothing is permanent. Tomorrow is another day. Important to remember that and play the game accordingly.
The power gap has been ever been widening since 1993
I enjoyed the program. It was very informative as well as very alerting with respect to current situation in India China relationship and our own leadership on the matter.
Just some historical fact here:
1. In 1842, the 1st opium war was fought by China against the British invasion.
Also in the same year, Indian seized the opportunity, initialised a sudden attack and backstabbed the Chinese at Ladakh.
2. During the great British rule of india, indian troop had helped their white masters to plunger Chinese towns & villages, committed arsons, massacre and mass rapes in China.
3. From 1959 -1961, a great famine broke out in China causing million of deaths there.
At the same period, again, Nehru seized this opportunity and started the forward policy at sino-indo border and advanced their forward military posts beyond Indian own held positions at the border then, destroying the chinese forts and killed Chinese soldiers indiscriminately . Ultimately it lead to the total retaliation from Chinese PLA in 1962 a.k.a. SIno-Indo war.
The so called actual line of control by Indian:
The problem is, there was actually NO BORDER between China and India. The so-called BORDER was drawn by the Brits on the map. China never recognized it and India as nation was not even a nation when those lines were drawn unilaterally by Brits. Brits engineered the Tibetan Independence twice. The renegades signed the paper with Brits claiming those lines were legit. But Chinese central government (both during Nationalist government and during Communist government) came into Tibet and crushed the independence movement. But from Brits perspective, they got someone signed some papers and that is that. It does not matter if there is legitimacy. Brits just wanted confusion, and an excuse hang onto whatever they drawn on the map.
Then India as a nation was founded. The largest servant group, the Hindus, took over the India the Subcontinent conquered by their former White Master the Brits. And the Hindus claimed whatever the Brits claimed. So, here we are, 70 years later.
100%
Indian side will never admit they are ever wrong. They keep saying its their lands even though it is disputed lands. Even Britain has accepted that Tibet was historically part of china, but the Indians do not recognise this and think it was only from 1959.
Propoaganda
China did not exist before 1940. Tibet is Indian Territory.
Shiv Shankar, @ 27:00 talks like a true Indian politician. Talks a whole load of nothing, "We know how to handle it, it will take some time"... Yes Shiv we've heard it before and that time will never come! We need solutions and a plan like Swamy has, not wish-washy, "Trust me, bro" politics! that's the issue. BJP out!!!
True
Greeting of the day.
Respected legends you all venter in your profession but when come to nation and you guys are taking on the serious issue of the country. As between you two are eminent lawyer as well as MP of the country. If goverment is not listening your voice then you guys should make your voice more louder just imagine Hon'ble Seniors Adv Kapil sibal & Swamy when they are on road to rays there voice how much support they will gate. There voice will be the cause for the goverment to listen by the prime minister.
So i request you legend to raise these voice on road make it primary consern for the goverment because this more important then any thing else.
Thank you
Our current PM can't rise above ME & MYSELF
China has without firing a single bullet across its borders has settled its boundaries with 12 of its land neighbors. While we now have land disputes with Nepal also, So we can not blame China alone on our borders not demarcated. If India agrees to form a NATO like military alliance among BRICS countries the Chinese will gladly settle our border dispute also.
china went to war with Russia on the border and still has issues with many countries on sea limits too.. please keep your ignorance to yourself
Where are you getting all this nonsense 😂
. India claims on Mcmohan line and aksai Chin has absolutely no basis. "India's Stand on China Border Irrational but Nehru's Handling Was Irresponsible" Avtar Singh Bhasin.
India respectable Media The wire. Karan Thapar
China wont settled now.. No trust with india now
@@Red.bulldozer3: Not from the Sangie media you get your WhatsApp type of information.
Head of discussion Dr. Swamy ji🙏
Technically perfect
Thank you sir
Excellent discussion!!
Sir , It is the righr time to negotiate the broader issue with Cino- India if there's political will to resolve amicably bringing the
Jai Hind to all panelists. Analysis on the actual border issue of China and India is obviously a great concern despite the disengagement agreement.
Educative.
India is an artificial country put together by the British colonists. When these colonists left, India should have been gone, too. Now it claimed to have inherited the British colonists. The very foundation of India was built upon the colonism it also condemned. The very existence of India is self-contradictory.
They copying hitler's greater germany and greater Japan... greater india or akhand bharat has nothing to do with the br itish
Always always insightful to hear Amb. Menon 🙏🙏. It's interesting at 39:30, how the agreements came into being as a result of the dialogue process that followed PM Gandhi's visit in 1988. We were able to establish a relationship with China without giving much concessions to it on territory unlike the Central Asian countries & even Russia. So we did better than anyone else than China itself as is rightly put. However, an internal political dialogue that is required for a settlement on boundary is done in these countries & politics has moved further on, whereas that part of work is left for India to do.
Good conversation useful all Indian thanks sir
Sibal shahab my question China annexed Tibet but no developed power came to save Tibet but when Indira Gandhi liberated east Pakistan in 1971 USA send 7 th fleet against India. Even west divided united India in 1947 making weak India against China. Why ? you explanation on my question is highly informative appreciable.
answer to why?..there was no cold war camps...during tibet annexation..india had the moral right to save it..but memon/nehru didnt allow it coz of communist love...
@@stallionspirit1576But India was not part of any camp.
@@stallionspirit1576sir it's not only communist love and all. India was at a terror stage in all sectors post independence. Nehru had to do a lot to make India into a stable country. Iam not supporting Nehru or anyone. But we have to understand the context also.
@@hare12345. India was part of the communist camp due to memon/nehru combo
@@hare12345. terror stage??...watz that
Very fruitful discussion here and everybody is agreeing over and is concerned about the issues involved but the real issue is the present leadership is not at all aggrieved and also not agreeing to what you all are saying here bcz according to them everything is alright and will remain alright. They know more than 90-95 pc people are not aware of what is happening and for that reason it is not so important and perhaps not in the interest of the country. What is in their own interest is more important than national interest. Very unfortunate situation we are seeing in the country for the last couple of years when they are not believing in taking into confidence anybody.
Wow again legends together.
Swamy ji the true patriot and legend
. India claims on Mcmohan line and aksai Chin has absolutely no basis. "India's Stand on China Border Irrational but Nehru's Handling Was Irresponsible" Avtar Singh Bhasin.
India respectable Media The wire. Karan Thapar
Great discussion. Such citizen can do a lot for the country.
Swamy suggesting that India becomes a proxy of USA to fight China so as to get back the territory is alarming. And him talking about having meetings with external officials, even more alarming.
Guess he thinks Ukraine is winning😂
America is the biggest war monger
truth is tough to swallow
Shiv Shankar Menon was ambassador to Nepal as well
Wonderful!!!
Do India want to be subjugated to the US as Jaishankar prefers or be sovereign as the basic principles of the BRICS++? Peace should be something that we want so that the economic developments can proceed well. Thanks to these gentlemen for their discussions that are enlightening.
Enlightened
Good discussion
Very good discussion
Why did we vacate the vantage points on the Kailash range?
Great personalities of the day
Kapil Sibal addressing listeners as "lay people" drags the ethos of the discussion down to the level of a soliloquy, where “we talk, and we only listen!” It’s less of a conversation and more like speaking to walls that only reflect his thoughts, leaving the rest of us to wonder if our role is merely to mirror rather than engage.
Indian land crust is going about 1 CM below Chinese land physically, resultantly, repeated EARTH QUAKES occur in the hills of Southern Himalaya Region viz UttrKhand, Himachal, Bihar, Assam.
So physically fixing Indo - Chinese Land Boundary is not feasible for future 1000 years or so.
Dr. Swamy turning sour grapes as he's aging. Sad to see him prioritizing his jealousy over the truth. He's using his intelligence to confuse people
Swamy's is out of Jealousy But Kapil is a Sly Fox pretending to be a gentleman.
The other 2 are absolute gentlemen .....to the extent of litterly accomodate them.
swamy was always narcissistic with a big ego..and becomes vengeful..when his grandiose self-interest (read become FM) are not met...lol
Counter his facts. Everyone has an ego.
@@patelpump3257 what facts?
@@patelpump3257 you have already given the judgement that they are facts!!. Prove that they are facts.
Please Translate in Hindi also, discussed whenever in english
Excellent perspective. Agree with Dr Swamy. We have to take head on whenever situation arises + what Mr Menon said that we also create issues for China is the option must be considered with utmost seriousness and away from Chest thumping politicians and godi media. Save diplomacy from Public gallery.
This discussion also required to show some light on population aging of China and it's strategic importance vis a vis border issue specifically scenario after 40 or so years 😮
Buffer zone has been occupied by Chinese. Where as Indian Army has has withdrawn leaving buffer zone
Ladakh ?
Jammu and Kashmir ?
Arunachal Pradesh?
Tibet ! 😂😅
swamy: everythign (with chibna) has happened in the last few years
reason: bjp (unlike congress)..vigorously obstructed to china salami slicing...and had upperhand in LAC..,becoz of congress policy of neglecting infrastucture development in border areas (as per nudge nudge wink wink arrangement between congress and CCP)
Problem is bjp went to moscow to sign everthing away to keep peace after provoking china.
Sir why should China come here and fight. From Tibet their airforce can enter India. China's Air force is advanced and the US is aware of that. Their hypersonic missile can land anywhere. This is in case there is a war
Mr. Sibal How nice to have such discussion where you eminent personalities get amused discussing against Modi government but never mentioned the root of the problem generated by Neheru.
RESPECT LOOSES IF YOU DO GUJRAJI TYPE BUSINESS but it is maintained if you do on HUMAN GROUNDS
PANEL You All should highlight Gujrat Traders interest is the reason why the issue is kept non Transparent
Understanding :
1. China has an advantage on us, economically they have strengths build over last 25 years, so they will control to their advantages and Militarily they have upper hand as they captured our land, and are on our side of LAC. So then politically they won't back down.
2. Firstly, to normalise relations with China, condition should be to go to pre April 2020 level.
3. In long term, To counter China, we need to build our Economic Strength, military strength, which takes next 25 years and we can't do it without China, so we need to normalise relations economically.
3. To do this, we need to resist them in borders, get help from West, form groupings, etc.
3. India don't want war, we don't want to be a puppet of West and fight like Ukraine, they don't fight for us, but we need their support to build our capacities and strength.
Indeed! Solution: Get BJP OUT!!! They are a coward party. They even provoked this situation with China and then they have the nerve to tell USA, "who are you to tell us not to buy Russian oil"... when they need USA. They would rather profit from re-selling russian oil than care about our borders. Make no mistake, our politicians are buying Russian oil for THEIR OWN benefit, not India's!!
You need 25 years but dont assume that china will not be on the moon.
Indian thinking like yours is why china wont trust india anymore so how to get them to help economically?
You are stuck at no 2
No 2 because china got no longer any trust in india
PANEL. GREAT DISCUSSION WE NEED TO WORK ON WHAT WE FEEL and REVIVE our NATIONAL RESPECT
Move Capital from Delhi to somewhere South. Delhi is so close to both Pakistan and China. At least we need to have some discussion on this. Don't we??? 😮
Friendship with neighbors seem only option because confrontation will lead to economic disaster for all.
As some one pointed out, indians dont need big GDP to counter chinese threat at border
History had shown, Small countries with ragtag army had won battles against big enemies
Some examples are vietnam, taliban over big super powers
Indians need strong will power in political leadership to check continous threat from china and Pakistan
You dont need big gdp but you need war chest money for war....sadly india got zero
But maybe you are thinking india is like ukraine getting supplies from west?.. you think oil wont be stopped by russia or middle east?
Indian politician need guts to say that Tibet is invaded by china in year 1959. Border between India and china comes after only Chinese invaded Tibet. Before that there is no any border dispute among India and Tibet. So unless Tibet problem was not solved border disputes will be remain forever. So it’s up to Indian government to decide what to do. Jai hind Jai Tibet
Sir, It is now the right time to resolve the broader issue bringing all stagholders in confidence as there is no virtual LAC/LOC demarcated so far. As the China diverting our attention on boarder issue with India keeping in ambiance or by sharing in a friendly gesture.
As their attention going to concentrate on Taiwan's semiconductor chips. After that the pearl garland is done for SEA.
Nothing makes our adversaries (whether on the east, far east, west or far west) more happy than when Modi or Rahul Gandhi go abroad and be-little their political opponents in India.
Crux - Dont use IR for Domestic Politics / Build Self Sufficiency in Critical sectors
let’s settle what we have. China never physically controll tibet before 1950, India was never a united country before 1950
Which country vasgodigama find in 1400??
@@Imsandeepsinghania there was no country back then. He landed on the kingdom of Samoothiri(Zamorin in present day Kerala)
The guy wearing yellow doesn't realise China has drones and missiles and do not need to send foot soldiers down to the Indian border to do a shooting war.
krishna menon (the real author of discovery of india)...and hard-core communist..was the primary reason....nehru prohibited using airforce in 1962 indo-china war..that saved china from a defeat,...
Saved China from a defeat?😅 Go and read to learn about the Korean civil war. US led 16 countries army with powerful air dominance and artillery could not defeat China volunteer army.
@@stevencher9968 in a moutaineous terrain(unlike korean peninsula)..air superiority rules..dats warfare commonsense 101..duh!..lol
India claims on Mcmohan line and aksai Chin has absolutely no basis. "India's Stand on China Border Irrational but Nehru's Handling Was Irresponsible" Avtar Singh Bhasin.
India respectable Media The wire. Karan Thapar
Reading a comment posted, I came to the conclusion it was the Indians who were undoubtedly the aggressor in the 1962 war...Nothing to do with British, just pure imperialistic behavior. If you could, prove me wrong, not with "simply you are wrong" but with more convincing arguments.... The comment posted
[Nehru was a brilliant strategist.. Nehru actually invaded china in 1962 when china was begging for food, took advantage of weakened china caused by the famine of 59-62 with 30 millions deads. Moreover, China had a big fallout with the soviet and India was still in the soviet camp, with USA hoping the famine in china would topple the communist regime. USA-Soviet was also distracted with the Cuban missile crisis. In short, china was completely isolated and at its weakest point.
Not only, the Indian army was chased off, the china famed light infantry retook southern Tibet that had been earlier taken over by India.. However, the famine had a toll and they retreated from Arundel Pradesh. It was lucky break for India. Consequently, both nations lost no territory. Nehru had been successful in annexing land and nations for previous 13 years. Nehru did no more annexation and passed on 2 years later. No other Indian did any better.
If china had planned the Invasion, they wouldn't have retreated. It is ridiculous to plan an invasion at time of being completely isolated as a country while having massive famine with only thoughts of finding more food, and then having succeeded with loss of lives and precious resources, to simply give back won land. ]
Maybe food starvation had destroyed their brain or their ability to manage land retaken from India then.
@@biggpicture2930 agressor or not....not using the airforce..forced india to suffer itz 1st defeat after independence...
Modi made a strategic mistake 4 years ago to instigate a border conflict with China. Modi thought that China was tied up with USA on trade war and tech war, so, China would make concession to India. Unfortunately, China gave India a bloody nose. Worst yet, Trump left office soon after, along went his promise of more FDI and friendshoring.
In the last 4 years, India kept a cordial relationship with Biden, through QUAD and Indo-Pacific meetings. But there was little FDI and friendshoring, except for some hot money flooding the Indian stock market. There is no long-term investment in infrastructure and manufacturing ecosystem. The election result, with Modi losing the majority vote, shows this situation, where it seems India GDP is growing, yet there is little real jobs created for common folks.
As result, Modi has to make a change. And that change is having a more friendly relationship with China, in hope for some Chinese investment in infrastructure and manufacturing ecosystem. Thus, the disengagement in border conflict, as the first step toward a thawed relationship.
Here comes the curve ball. Trump WON the US election. What now? Is there any change in India China relationship? We will see.
Do you think china should help india to grow or india so attractive? Do you think india can be trusted?
@@biggpicture2930 "Trust" is such a loaded word. What is trust? That someone will "give you something out of good will?" And when you did not get that something, you won't "trust" them? For example, Nehru made that "Look North" campaign to inch into South Tibet. Did he "trust" the Chinese that they will just sit still and watch? Likewise, when Modi made a move, did he "trust" that Chinese, who were busy with Trump's trade war and tech war, just let him get away with it?
Trust? What is it? I don't understand Indians keep using this word. Have you ever heard Chinese use the word? Every action has a reaction. You just need to handle the reaction. If you don't have the CAPABILITY to handle the reaction, then you are not at the position of power to make that action. That is the main reason why India's aspiration does not match with their capability. They have huge aspiration, and they take action on those aspiration, yet they don't have the capability to sustain those aspiration and action. Thus, they tend to resort to the "trust" word to gloss over that situation. "Chinese gave us a bloody nose. We cannot trust them!" Sounds good? Sound like you are in the right? But have you ever wondered why you got a bloody nose to begin with?
indira gandhi (deference to russia coz of lal bahadur shastri) was the primary reason...US replaced india with China in 1970s...and made it a manufacturing superpower....and created a 15-20 year gap between the economies...
Easy argument
@@sarasumayya3839 easy facts too...dat dont lie...
What bullshit.. India was always with Soviet until it broke up in 1990. It sought protection from soviet against USA.. Because India had been annexing neighboring countries without US's permission.
It is karma for not being chosen ... but india was happy with power of annexation.
@@biggpicture2930 karma...was the bad decision of not siding with US..when we had the chance...instead of china...
Narendra Modi is from Gujarat, so he has no knowledge or Interest in thinking about finding any Northern India borders with China.
kehnaa kya chaah rahey ho?
If Modi is from Gujarat, what about Swami & Shiv sh.Are they from Ladakh?
What bullshxtIndia was always with Soviet until it broke up in 1990. It sought protection from soviet against USA.. Because India had been annexing neighboring countries without US's permission.
@stallionspirit1576 You deleted my comments
Rahul and Sonia is from Italy. Why the hell are they doing here
It's difficult to listen to some peoples' ego and self-denial of their contribution to the current status of the China-India border issue. If China looms large now or occupied Indian territory, then in all probability it happened on their watch. However, to mobilise 60,000 troops to oppose pChina's earlier effort and risk a major war is not a characterisation of a meek India nor an India throwing her hands up in surrender, despite the China monster. Much credit has to be accorded the Indian leadership as they seek a mutually respectful terms for a relationship with China.
Excellent and marvelous discussion but andheybakths and whatsapp university educated bakths will not except this ❤❤❤❤❤❤
Not even a blade of grass grows there. We go as per our indomitable leader Nehru so we dont worry about this piece of land.
No problems Sirs, Agniveers are there who can do everything right and if still nothing happens , we are having vast area of land on our borders and if out of that if some is surrendered in exchange of handsome amount of money, it will not make much difference. We want only power to continue and the money will flow automatically. And you know money begets money and money can control everything including power, whether to remain in power or to retain the power.
6:13 somersault 😂😂😂
That’s 56 inch waale style 😂😂😂
There’s only one strategist in this discussion.
China has been our Neighbor for 4000 years and we have never fought with each other ( Except 1962). In the world you can not name any two neighbors who have such a long period of peaceful co-existence. Both India and China have been Civilizational states and not Nations. This concept of Sovereign nations is a western concept which the world now has started implementing in the last 3 centuries only
India was created by the british in 1947... 4,000 years?
India never had border with china. It had border with tibet only🤦🏼
@@Red.bulldozer3 there was no india until 1947 so tibet never had a border with india
@Red.bulldozer3 top indian historian revealed.... India claims on Mcmohan line and aksai Chin has absolutely no basis. "India's Stand on China Border Irrational but Nehru's Handling Was Irresponsible" Avtar Singh Bhasin.
The wire. Karan Thapar
@@biggpicture2930: You are right but unfortunately Modi also has taken the same stand.
swamyji on your channel you repeatedly said that China has acquired 4,600 sqkms of undisputed land in Ladakh.what about that.
Emperor Xi of the Middle Kingdom had to show his toughness to his domestic audience and showed his hands too quickly to the west . And he was incredibly stupid to seek a tough posturing against India around the same time. India needs China as much as China needs both the west and India for trade- it doesn’t have a market big enough to take care of all the capacities built. A decoupling will not happen but the indomitable control over supply chain is now being actively challenged globally. In that context , China has a lot to loose to keep the rapprochement with India at bay even with a position of strength. Geopolitics is volatile, nobody has the last words today.
It is the right time to resolve the LAC issue with China if there's a political will at this juncture .As there is no agreed LAC/LOC virtually. As now the China is going to concentrate on the Taiwan issue for the Semi- conductore salloni-size
Sir, aise video Hindi me bhi aani chahiye
kapil ,PM Should Concern ,Neighbouring Country China ,Bangladesh,Nepal ,Sri Lanka ,Maldive ,Afghanistan ,Pakistan For Internal Security , Manipur 597 Days Old Conflict ,External Aggression From Myanmar is Any Example !!!
kapil sibal sir i dont consider you as a pearls of wisdom. but it is quite nice discussion.
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Thotha chana, Baje ghana!!!.....best suits the current PM
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Wise men like Sibal etc have this weakness of backing a child as LOP....which is why both Sibal and Swamy are no more in Congress
Funny...to not have a military personnel in the discussion...the actual people who execute things on ground...these people have never ever been in high altitude ..all for show..but no go...
Military personnel actually live in a bubble and brag about there fake heroism and cannot speak on facts and spread lies continuously . Look what generals did in Kargil war misleading even government about ground situation to avoid questioned and hide there incompetence ...
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Dr. Swami idea of resolving the issue with help from other countries is not feasible. India is fully capable of handling independent action. It’s the political system from both sides didn’t want to work on the resolution . Very good discussion as always. Thanks 🙏🏽
India has no war chest money so must always need help, like ukrainians