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Beane and Brand look to win over the Oakland A's scouting team with their radical approach to player recruitment.
Moneyball. Brad Pitt stars in this film about Oakland A's general manager Billy Beane and his attempt to put together a baseball club on a budget by employing computer-generated analysis to draft his players. Oakland A's general manager Billy Beane (Brad Pitt) challenges the system and defies conventional wisdom when his is forced to rebuild his small-market team on a limited budget. Despite opposition from the old guard, the media, fans and their own field manager (Philip Seymour Hoffman), Beane - with the help of a young, number-crunching, Yale-educated economist (Jonah Hill) - develops a roster of misfits…and along the way, forever changes the way the game is played.
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@Jesus is coming. Read the Gospel. You forgot a commandment stating Thou shalt keep thy religion to thyself.
the fck do you consider movie magic, 5 minute clips aint movie magic, a fcking free movie is piece of chit
That's Pete for you
@jesusiscoming.readthegospe9184🖕
😂😂😂😂
I watched this movie without understanding a thing about football and I still love it.
Hahahaha lmfao
LOL about what now?
*beisbol xD
This sport is about basketball, not football
Obviously, you're *not* a golfer
This is not a baseball movie. This is a movie about business, leadership, vision, and guts. Baseball is merely the medium by which these concepts are explored.
Word.
A’s never won a world series with Bean in charge
@@dannyMCDelight Doesn't matter.
@@dannyMCDelight clearly missing the point - the point is that - statistically did you put your organization in the best possible place to be successful - if the answer is yes then you did your job - the only sure bets are that eventually both you and I will be dead
It’s about baseball
The wisest man in that room was the gent who reminded everybody of who Billy was and their roles within the organization. Advisors like that are invaluable and extremely rare.
@Hello there, how are you doing this blessed day?
We need more people who knows how to play their role, but too bad, everybody who’s under 80 has been raise told in their upbringing that they’re special and you can be anything smh
Of course your role changes depending on which social group you’re with at the time.
Btw i was born in 88 raised by old folks in the East, while kids in my ages were in school, i was educated by wise-ones instead of school educators with no passion on what that teach, it was just a paycheck for them and i was able to see that thru them already when i was in end of elementary
@@MAMSMB I think youve been disillusioned to hard mate, its not that its impossible to become anything no matter who you were born as, its that the likelyhood for somethings is NEAR impossible, with both a lot of luck and a lot of hard work required to get there. Unfortunately some people have 1 and not the other, so they think it was impossible. It wasnt, it just didnt happen. Yeah some people nowadays feel entitled to stuff, but you cant blame people for how their parents raised them, saying "this generation was raised horribly" really should be considered an insult to the generation that raised them, its not like they raised THEMSELVES.
@@TheRagingAura excuses, excuses, cry me a river I don't care how bad you had it, it's all up to you to pull yourself outta the mess you were born with.
You can blame it on your surroundings all you want, once you're an adult it's all on you. Luck favors players who were ready, and you have to lead the lucky to you, lucky ain't gonna just fall into your lap.
@@MAMSMB ...what? You were the one ripping on kids being taught "they can be whatever they want to be" so I talked about how it is technically true, just unlikely. You should still try for it, because you miss every shot you dont take, but all the hard work in the world wont guarentee anything either. You have to be in the right place and at the right time AND be ready in every way sometimes for you to get ahead in life.
Whats funny is you went from "yall are dreamers, accept your roll in society" to "yall are lazy, gotta try hard to get what you want". Pick a side.
It's amazing how naturalistic this scene is. The acting by all the supporting characters is just so good.
Some of these guys are real baseball people. Some of them actually knew the real Billy and didn't like him.
It feels natural and different because it's a mix of actors and real baseball scouts. The scouts' lines are a little rough because, well, they're not trained actors. But it captures the chaos and vibe of a bunch of experts debating a topic, and they bring some authentic lingo to the scene too.
@@Phyrre56 bingo- and this meeting really did happen with the A's front office. probably pretty much exactly like its shown
I would say better than brad....
that is whats good, all those actors getting one opportunity to act
Love this scene. Especially the old guy who basically tells everyone to shut up, Billy is the boss, and they have to listen. He didn’t like it either but he knows how it works.
@Danny Treadwell your right you cant like scenes because they aren't real
Yeah that was great line. I enjoyed this movie. Danny, you will find many movies are not real, learn how to deal with it.
@Danny Treadwell As someone who doesn't want to Google, can you elaborate? You seem like a fan.
They were right though about David Justice... his OBP is good over what sample size? If he's old and hurt all the time, yeah his OBP might look pretty damn good when he can actually play.
I would've raged if I were in that room and all my boss said is "cuz he gets on base.".
That's when you need a guy that knows both the analytics and the practical side of the game. Daryl Morey was an analytics guy, and his strategy worked, until it didn't.
@@nahor88 first and foremost I have no clue about baseball, but if they say he should be able to make 60 games that sounds like a full season to me (or close to it) and if he walks most of the bases as they suggest, I guess the risk of getting hurt is smaller than if you have to run for it, is it not? I see your point though, if he really only plays a couple of games his average is not going to pull the team...
"Guys look at your reports or I'm going to point at Pete again" is probably my favorite line from this movie.
😂😂😂
Also the line that sounds most like what anyone would hear in a real-life meeting.
And "Guys, this is not a discussion" ;-)
Mine’s “You gotta carry the 1”.
“Would you have drafted me?” Is mine.
- Scott Hatteberg
- Whoo???
- Exactly. Sounds like an Oakland A already
Loool
Spacelord... dammit... Scott Hatteberg...
Starlord
@@shanesmith5076 Who?
2:35 Pratt C in Yellow.... You're Welcome
criostoirocuinn HA
I remember I accidentally bought a movie ticket for this movie. I think the movie i was originally going to see was sold out. I said man this movie is going to be so boring. I was glued to my seat
@@vjreimedia That's funny ! Also happened to me once ! I was supposed to go see Finding Nemo, the room was so full i thought" fk this i dont want to be front row " pick another random movie room and ended watching Troy, great times !
@@vjreimedia Hello friend, Keanu Reeves was not in "Dude, Wheres My Car"? lol. that was Ashton Kutcher and Sean William Scott
How is your skin now?
Do you have to throw away ur pant after that ?
I think the movie is not intereste
"Billy, who is that?"
"Look at him, he's my quant. My quantitative!!!!! My math specialist. Look at him, you notice anything different about him? Look at his face."
Lmfaoooo
“His name’s Yang, He won a national math competition in china!”
@@justinking8892 "He doesn't even speak English."
I love that movie too lol
@@tyc4587 They're both based on Michael Lewis books.
"Billy, why did you marry her?."
"Because she gets on base."
Think you mean She let him get on base.
Except Billy is gay lol.
@@vladimirhorowitz You're thinking of a different Billy Bean, bro.
@@christopherhughes9787 I've been walking around for at least 6-7 years confusing Billy Beane with Billy Bean. Thanks for being the one to set me straight haha.
@@vladimirhorowitz No worries...I thought the same thing the first time I read about Billy Bean being gay.
Love the old man who told them that billy is the boss.
He's a real baseball scout.
And when brad said pete does need to be here.
He almost comes off as a senile yes man, but those were wise words. If Beane’s gamble is a success, he can talk in interviews about how he was a scout for the team that revolutionized scouting. If it’s a failure he could say in interviews that Beane threw out all their scouting reports and went rogue, so he’s not to blame, and they should recognize him for how good the A’s were before Beane went rogue.
Beane gave them a perfect opportunity and he saw it.
I was just about to comment this! Old guy with the hearing aid was one of the only people who had Billys back.
The only thing worse than a cash-strapped franchise like the Oakland Athletics is an organization that PRETENDS to be cash-strapped like the Toronto Blue Jays.
"Scott Hateberg"
"Who?"
"Exactly. See he sounds like an Oakland A already."
that is such a good line.
Haha and so true.
Lol that's y I'm here again.
"There's another name you may know me by....Star Lord."
"Who?"
"I'm Star Lord, man, legendary Oakland A."
"Seriously guys, we have to remember this is the man, he answers to Ownership and God. He doesn't answer to us. We make suggestions and he makes decisions". Never a better definition of Leadership and rank & file.
That works until every leader just blames their subordinates even when their subordinates told them it was a bad idea. Most "leaders" today don't take responsibility for their actions and just push it off onto someone lower so they can keep their corrupt position.
Who played the guy who said that? It feels like a cameo.
that guy looks so much like writer William Goldman it kinda freaked me out a little bit on my first viewing
It’s a youthful tendency to be skeptical of leadership, but you get older and see how crucial it is to have a single hand at the wheel, so much so that just the concept of a unity of vision trumps the quality of the leadership. Bad decision better than no decision, or a series of incongruent decisions. Subsequently, as a rank-and-file you can either support your leadership or get out of the way. The worst thing you can do for your team is to be insubordinate.
@@Pierce1996h that's not a "these days" thing. It's always been a thing with bad leaders. There's always gonna be bad leaders and there's gonna be good leaders
I love that Chris Pratt played both Hatteberg and Starlord, who both get their introduction met with "Who?!"
I wouldn't be surprised if the "who" in guardians was a reference.
Who's Chris Pratt?
@@edjavas The actor who played Hatteberg (catcher turned 1st basemen)
He also played andy in parks and rec. starlord in gaurdians of the galaxy etc.
Exactly, sounds like an Oakland A already
There's also his a yellow tag on the board labeled Pratt C behind the guy right after Pitt mentions his character
The casting director deserves an Oscar for finding these guys.
most of the folks in the scene really were mlb scouts and coaches, btw.
I mean he just went to the Ocars to find two of them...
I look at Brad Pitt and I don't see him, I see Billy Beane and the same with Jonah Hill. These actors transcended their roles where you didn't see the actor anymore, you saw the characters they portrayed. I see Brad Pitt in anything else now and I think, "Billy Beane." Great acting.
@TA-hf6siGeez Louise, I mean the scouts!
AMPAS just announced a new Best Achievement in Casting Oscar to begin in 2026 👍🏼
You can see what it meant to Pete to have his established, successful, and confident boss have his back when the jerk tried to bully him. Billy helped Pete become a more confident person, while Pete helped Billy fall in love with baseball again. Billy and Pete have a really cool and heartwarming story. That’s why you don’t have to know how many innings are played in a baseball game to love this movie.
He wasn't insulting Jonah Hill though. That was a power thing with Brad Pitt.
@@oatlord No it wasn’t.
Billy was a mentor
Its just a movie dude, calm down
@@nigelgolightly8327 ignorant comment
"The statistical analysis... it's so beautiful"
- Captain Holt
The comment we all searched for
NINE!! NINE!!
@@maximilianvonhohenbuhel5609 I was actually disappointed in not seeing one... so I figured... why not?
@@edsonpacheco294 If i hadnt found yours, i probably would have written it myself ;)
@@maximilianvonhohenbuhel5609 great minds think alike
There is just a natural smoothness to Pitt in this scene. Some would say he's just himself... But the little minute things he does with his mannerisms and slight pauses, looks, and how he addresses each character is magnetizing. There's a real difference in this kind of performance that seems so simple - and yet - has so much depth and intricacies.
Honestly, this is the best acting of his career. No tics, no gimmicks, just reality.
@@jstohler And reality is the hardest thing to replicate on film. Many actors are saying lines and either doing too much, or not enough. Pitt could have easily threw his nuts all over this scene but there was a fine line in him assessing his GM status and having to sell the idea to a bunch of old geezers. In a way he was both condescending and charming at the same time. Pitt was perfectly casted.... But he also acted his ass off here and there's no undervaluing that part.
He was just so good here.
@@LivinhItUp I'm guessing there was more than one "take" on the filming of this scene. But yeah, the final product is a thing of beauty.
yea absolutely. some people find it fashionable to knock pitt because of his model looks but he's a legit good actor
@@jstohlereven if he's a natural, it takes a lot of sincerity to be down to earth and genuine.
The charisma of Brad Pitt is priceless. I mean, whatever he do is always look so cool and charming.
It's not priceless. It's $20 million per movie
Because he looks and sounds good doing it. That’s all charm really is. Brad Pitt is one of the best
Yeah it helps looking hot to be confident.
jonah too, they are so natural.
I found him boring on this scene, like he was trying too much. Like the charisma of a narcissist. But hey, is just an opinion...
what a great film, and i know nothing about baseball, but have enjoyed this film a few times. awesome. solid 8/10 well woth the watch.
100% agree. Never seen a game played (from Australia) but loved it
If you watch football then this is the approach of Liverpool Football Club in England. They have won quite some trophies recently with this approach. John Henry, owner of the Boston Red Sox also owns Liverpool.
Here, "he gets on base" matters. In football one of the thing that matters is positive passing. There are quite a few metrics.
to me, it's a 5/7. Perfect score.
@Idealmethod. I was literally wondering if this would be interesting to watch - I don't know much about baseball either - and saw your comment. Thanks :)
Decided I'm going to watch it :))
@@mikhabef5402 Thanks. As I posted above, I know nothing about baseball and was wondering if I should watch it. I'm going to take the advice :)
Brad Pit is obviously a legend, but people forget how amazing Jonah Hill is. He is one of the funniest actors out there, and always goes under the radar till he pulls a wolf of Wall Street performance out of thin air.
STEEEEEVE MAAAAADDEN............ STEVE!
I know 3-4 fat guys that are just as funny. You could replace his movie roles with almost any ffg (funny fat guy) and wouldn't notice the difference.
or War dogs mate....he is awesome there
What movie were you watching?
@@morecowbell235 Moneyball and Wolf of Wall Street ... are not comedies. O_o
I dont even like baseball, this movie was just very interesting
Same bruh
That’s the mark of a great director and screenplay, to reach different audiences.
@@lootinthegluten9122 I agree with you. I think baseball is one of the most boring games ever but this movie isn't.
Muhammet Keser Lol baseball is my favorite sport so I’m glad you were able to enjoy in some way, shape, or form. The climax of that winning streak was something else. Goosebumps every time!
I literally don’t watch sports games and I loved this film
“Check your notes, guys, or I’m gonna point at pete”
What this film highlights is the human tendency to talk up their own importance. These men justified their positions by INVENTING requirements to be a good ball player. By obfuscating the selection process they created self importance to unknowing managers and owners. And by the way, this trait is rife throughout every industry. (lawyers are the biggest culprit, look what they have down to our code of laws)
@@TheBelrick amen to that! the financial industry is another great example.
STEEEEEVE MADDEEEEEEEEN
@@TheBelrick unfortunately the medical field is an example of this as well. I see it everyday, good nurses and providers trying to make a difference in a system bugged down by administration that creates more positions of importance and metrics that don't pan out to mean anything, misdirection. There's just enough malarkey in the middle to keep management and ownership/ board of director blind to the shell game and conflicts of interest going on. Whistlblowers have little protection regardless of what you may be told.
@@DoctorShaunB Unfortunately this is the price of Centralized Command Control Industries like US medical care.
One doctor was on youtube saying that half his week was spent on paperwork
that means as a doctor he is only half a doctor in practice with the effects upon patient numbers being evident
"Do I care if it's a walk or a hit...Pete?" "You do not" Cracks me up...
"we make suggestions, he makes decisions"...period
I love this movie so much. Such a hidden gem. It's about baseball, but I don't even watch baseball. Really it's about the human spirit willing to pioneer something new and risk everything in his/her life for it because the situation in life asks the person to do so. Not only does he succeed, but it changes how everyone does it after he shows them it's possible. You know how scary it is to do that in real life? Such a good movie, both actors were great in this. There was no glamour in this movie, it was a very personal upclose view at struggling to overcome something that seemed so doomed. Pretty sure everyone can relate to this.
This scene is all about introducing a new system and change management. I recently headed something like this at my work. it was pretty difficult at first, but super satisfying once everyone bought in to the new system.
funcereal that's interesting, because to me it's a movie about what's wrong with the world. If the movie was set in a musical setting it would be about how suits create boyband groups to sell mediocre pop songs to ignorant consumers. I never imagined anyone would find this movie to be inspirational. I'm honestly horrified by the thought that anybody would find this to be positive.
A lot of people get set in stone with the mindset that since they've done something for a long time, like these scouts?(I think that's what they are), they are always right, they can't be argued with. That logic is just plain wrong. This movie does a fantastic job of showing it.
It's also about getting everyone to commit to the plan, even if they disagree with it. A house divide cannot stand.
Really it’s just a documentary about the Oakland As.... anything after that is your interpretation
Scout - Let me get this straight, you signed John Wayne Gacy? A man convicted of 33 counts of murder and accused of killing well over 40 people? Why Billy, why would sign such a monster?
Billy - Points at Pete
Pete - He gets on base
Incredibly efficient
😂
Who were they trying to replace? Ted Bundy?
@@joelwillems4081 Chuck Manson
Billy: Do I care that he's murdered 33 people? (Points at Pete)
Pete: You do not.
A great movie and Jonah Hill had a great part. He really helped make the movie.
I agree even though he was not a real life character. The scene when they were trading players to get Hatteburg to finally play first was great.
Jonahs a talent
Was this before he met Jordan Belfort?
Is he the fat stats guy?
@@Gays4Trump yes.
"That don't look right, it didn't come out right.."
"You gotta carry the one."
Thats me.
Fun Fact: The guy who asks about who will play first base was Ron Washington, one of the best defensive coaches in history imo. He's coached multiple Gold Glove winners who were nothing before.
Wow idk how I never learned that or realized it
The character is Ron Washington but that's an actor playing him (Brent Jennings)
Everybody Gangsta till Math shows up.
"You need to carry the 1..."
Cause math gangsta
Juan Tellez WORD !!
Jon Barron Is there a book you recommend on practical statistics?
Perfectly put CC
Why isn’t Brad Pitt eating anything in this scene
He ate the cap off that marker.
Its not oceans 11 🤔
He's chewing the scene
Simple acting class. Josh brolin said in an interview if the scene is boring he will turn up with a bag of crisps (chips to the u.s) to make it seem more interesting. He did it in sicario and the director didn't notice until the scene was filmed
he ate them scouts up
dude in green jacket is like: guys. we arent in charge, he is.
Literally the 3rd smartest guy in that room.
is Billy or Pete the smartest?
Old guy in the green jacket was seeing the direction of the team change as well as his role as a scout. Put his finger in the wind and did some ass kissing. The smartest scout in the room.
Excellent point you made
The guy in green was a real life scout they hired for the movie
1st base coach is up there too
Jonah Hill is such a good actor. One of those child actors whose life didn't end up in the gutter.
... when was Jonah Hill ever a child actor? He was 21 in his first film and television roles.
Yeah, he just looked young. Hard to believe he's 49 now.
@@believe8263 am I dumb or is he not like 35?
This comment thread is a dumpster fire.
@@alexadkins35 You're not dumb. I was trying to make people laugh. Sorry.
- "who??"
-"Exactly! He sounds like an Oakland A already"
"Starlord, man"
The old scout sticking up for billy was really heart warming
That part seemed out of place, to me. It seemed like he was just sucking up to Billy.
@@DavidEmerling79 I mean, kinda, but he's also being a realist about the situation. He sees that Beane's mind is made up, sees that it's at least based on something (the "new math" scouting style that the other guys are dismissive of), and lastly sees that there is an opportunity for shared credit of a success, while a failure can be put on Beane for not listening to his scouts ("he only answers to ownership, and God" is a diplomatic warning to Beane that the buck is gonna stop with him if this doesn't work, lol).
I love the part at the end when Walt says: “None of those guys know how to play first base,” and Grady tilts his head back and raises his hands in that “Thank you” gesture
Yeah me too, in general I thought the actor who played Grady was an excellent fit
Billy: "We're going to teach you how to play first base. It's not that difficult."
Walt: "It's incredibly difficult."
Walt was so passive aggressive w/ this move. Billy's trying to sell it, "not difficult at all, tell 'em Walt". "Incredibly difficult!!" :-D
It's a transitionary line for later in the movie when they go see Hatteberg.
That’s not “Walt”. That’s Ron Washington, “Wash” for short. He was a player and was the third base coach and infield defensive instructor in Oakland during the “Moneyball” years. He later took the Texas Rangers to back-to-back World Series as a manager. He’s currently the third base coach and infield defense instructor for the Atlanta Braves.
This is Brad Pitt's most Robert Redford-ish role, he's slowing morphing into him, lol.
Yeah, he's as naturalistic in this as Redford was in All the President's Men.
Spy game
@@a1175779 If you haven't already, watch "The Last Castle" -- Robert Redford is the lead in that movie as well. It's about as good as Spy Game.
@@TROOPERfarcry yeah that's a good one.
@@a1175779 Spy game was a good flick
The use of crowd reactions within the scene to drive tension and plot is masterful, it reminds me of how Kurosawa would use the reactions of groups to underline the actions of the main protagonists. It draws the audience in and involves them-- they feel part of that group on some basic level -- and allows the spotlighted actor more subtlety in their own acting because the effect gets amplified by the reactions. Really masterful filmmaking here.
IMO, this movie was, and is, completely underrated by the mainstream media. The direction, the dialog, the mannerisms, the expressions of the actors in that room, the viewer is totally drawn into the scene, like the viewer is sitting at the table with them. Brilliant. Yes, definitely comparable to Kurosawa. Yes, truly masterful filmmaking here. I still cannot look at Brad Pitt and not say, "There's Billy Beane" and Jonah Hill shall forever be Peter Brand to me.
And, just a personal prejudice, one of my favorite scenes in any movie is the one where Billy and Ron Washington visit Scott Hatteberg at Christmas time. You can see Scott, currently unemployed, holding a baseball and probably thinking about what might have been if he hadn't hurt his throwing arm and asking himself how he was going to support his wife and little daughter. Then Billy calls from right outside and offers him a contract, Billy and Ron step into the house and, when they leave, Scott is almost crying as he hugs his wife and daughter. It's hard for me not to shed a tear or 3 at this scene.
It's a Heist movie pretending to be a Sports Movie.
Hell, probably how it was pitched to Pitt.
"We are card-counters - at the blackjack table - and we're gonna turn the odds on the casino." 3:34
honestly it felt like they were talking about a heist rather then baseball.
And after that pitch it was a homerun.
Those are names I haven't heard in ages, since I was a kid. David Justice was my favorite player as a kid when he was still on the Braves. Hearing the names of those players brought back a flash of memories.
I was going to say the same thing!
Huge David Justice fan. #23
I've been an A's fan since 1986. We could field a helluva roster of past their prime guys that came through here at the end of their careers. Justice, Frank Thomas, Mike Piazza, Nomar Garciaparra, Eric Karros, Hideki Matsui...not to mention guys that came back like Rickey Henderson, Jose Canseco, and Jason Giambi.
The one moment later on when Billy says right to Justice's face "the Yankees are paying you 15 million dollars to please NOT play for them" was so savage.
@@kevinw7123.5 not 15.
Pete and his Yale economics degree forever changed the game of baseball. It took a lot of guts for Mr. bean to bring this guy aboard and revolutionize the way we look at statistics and run baseball teams.
Not really, Its a good movie but has some issues with reality. 1st They still had three of the best pitchers, It made them look at things different but didn’t change much in the long run.
@@scotttild Saying you are clueless about reality while accusing the movie of it. 😂
the real version of Peter went to the big H, not Yale.
True! And moneyball theory really does work, as long as only 1 or 2 teams are doing it. As soon as everybody buys in, the players with the right stats become the new hot ticket and poor teams can't compete again. The only reason moneyball died off is because about 2/3 of the entire league copied it when it was clearly working.
@@winstonwolf6791literally had the best staff in the majors, zito was the cy young winner that year. Depodesta and beane were smart by drafting college pitchers in 2000 and 01 bc they were ready for the 02 run. the one thing they should’ve prioritized however was defense as oaklands staff in 02 had 47% gb rate but were pretty decent at run prevention and limiting hrs particularly their starting pitching who had a 1.24 whip, era- of 82 second in the majors, .274 babip. the pitching is what held oakland together
"Billy, who's that?"
"That is Pete"
"Does Pete REALLY need to be here?"
I've always hated guys like that in meetings, a person who offers solutions to issues that they themselves either don't have, or think their solution is the ONLY solution. And anything contrary to that belief needs to be removed. And it takes a real leader to take control of a meeting and tell that person that other opinions may offer different points of views that could lead to better solutions. Hence Brad's answer
"Yes he does"
"Do you?" would have been the appropriate response to that douche
He don’t even know what is the problem but he thinks he has the best and only solution to the problem… and acting like a prick as well
Lol I love no one knows he's the assistant gm
I know nothing about baseball, nor watched a game in my entire but I loved this movie. It's a true underdog story. Watching it as 18-20 year old I didn't get why he turned down the red sox job to achieve his dream and win but now I understand he won in life by staying close to his daughter. Will revisit this movie again.
Probably the best way to watch it. The more you know about baseball the more annoying all the fictional aspects of the movie become.
While they definitely over exaggerated how bad the A’s really were even after losing Giambi, Damon, etc. (they still had a number of good players on their roster), it’s still a great story. It’s less about a zero-to-hero team and more about how he broke the mold of how to construct a roster. This started the blueprint for how to build a competitive team with less money and is still relevant today.
@@Paul-vf2wl honestly the movie shows accurate historical detail to what they DO mention, the nagging part is their oversights. They selectively choose to gloss over Tejada, Chavez, Hudson, Zito, Mulder…all great players who were still on contract going into 2002. Oh, besides them calling Carlos Peña a ROY candidate. Not sure where that came from.
For the 2002 MLB season, in which this movie is set, David Justice's OBP was .376. Hatteberg's was 0.374 and Jeremy Giambi's was .390 before he got traded to the Phillies during the season.
His confidence is bigger than the room. Such a great actor
I'll never forget this carpenter named Dwayne from NY. We worked together for a summer, at the end he gave me "Moneyball" the book. I read that book so fast and was thrilled when this movie was announced. Also, outstanding cast.
@Hello there, how are you doing this blessed day?
I don’t see enough comments about this, so I’ll say it: the guy who plays the lead scout is FABULOUS. Great voice, great presence, and he looks the part of a grizzled old scout.
Fun fact: he is a scout for the A's. Played pro ball for 15 years then moved to scouting department. He is the head of scouting for the entire A's farm system.
Thats all a lie. He is an actor Ken Medlock. But i had you going for a minute.
he's gnarly as hell
This is such a great depiction of every subjective argument on “who’s the best” in any sport vs. looking at pure statistics
After seeing the comments, I love how subjective they are. The irony..
Looking at just stats can be misleading though, stats could argue tom brady isnt even a top 10 qb of all time
Justin Jones lmao cause he not he just has had goated teams
pure stats lie and are fabricated
@@tylerb9301 he has literally had shit teams his whole career lol
Justin Jones fanboy statistics are less reliable than factual statistics
This was a great movie, the fact that I'm a baseball fan and remember that winning streak and the press they generated makes it much better to me.
I've seen this clip a million times before and I never noticed that for a split second, just before he announces Scott Hatteberg's name, the name C. Pratt goes in and out of focus on the board in the background. It's written on one of the magnetic strips in yellow. Pretty cool. Minute 2:25
I always love when people are saying “this isn’t how we do things” while everything they do is not working. What’s the harm in trying something different for one year while your crap every year
reminds me of democrats
Every derelict, corrupt and ineffective organization I've ever been apart of has said that. The good ones were self-aware enough to understand that the terrain is always shifting beneath you and you have to adapt accordingly.
@@danielkokal8819 Republicans are the same bullshit, stop being such a partisan hack
They were actually pretty good the previous year but had their two superstar players poached by wealthier teams, same thing keeps happening to them every time they develop a star. Time for a new approach.
@@MrConstantine02
Well, to be technically correct. neither party has ever represented the USA. JUST “FEELINGS” OF TGE WEALTHY. Oftenly enough, they find some gullible poor idiot, to magnify their feelings. Which is an instigation into dividing the poor for personal gain. Without one time, ever giving a fuck about the constitution. Same, goes for poor people. The solution is right in front of you. The forefathers thought ahead. The convention of states. There are entire laws set into precedents to protect any cos. Only 34 states needed. but, you all sit on your hands, donate to politically dumbass parties. While a COS is in effect. with 15 states on board. but We the People, can't open our eyes to fund and support the solution.
I love the way this movie introduces traditional fans to analytics in sports. My favorite scene is in Hatteburg's house when Billy is trying to sell how easy moving to 1st would be and Ron Washington is like "it's extremely hard".
I like the way brad Pitt laughs when he says it
bill thorn The difficulty is in learning the position at the pro level if all you’ve done is catch. But there’s no way to show that in a movie except to baseball people, so they showed him having trouble with basic stuff. It’s about the best they could do, and I think it made the point well.
@bill thorn More likely he needed help with the footwork. As a long time SS I had no idea that could be so complicated until I watched a Don Mattingly video a few years back. But as you say, he was a pro and it's doubtful he wasn't ready to play by spring. Makes for a good movie, though!
I dont give a damn about baseball but i saw this on a plane once and i sorta love it.
There are been a lot of former catchers that have been moved to first base and done just fine. Mike Napoli is a fairly recent example. He couldn’t catch any more but he still had good fielding skills. Catchers generally are very good defensively to begin with. He was a pretty good defensive first baseman for the Red Sox and Indians at the back end of his career. You frequently see good hitting catchers moving to other positions such as first base as they get into their 30s. So it’s not really as big a deal as they made it out here.
"Do I care whether how he gets on base?"..."Pete?"
"You do not."
They also didn't care about base running, until Jeremy Giambi tried to score with that waist of his and Derek Jeter made them regret not caring about it.
“Old man Justice?” That line always cracks me up.
Specially coming from guys that are at least 60 y/o
I like that Brad Pitt's character manages to dominate the scene without raising his voice.
The acting chops from Pitt is just amazing. A legend hands down.
"Seriously guys I think we have to remember this is the man, he answers to no one except ownership... and God"
-Lol
Phantsi K I don’t know what they are gripping about...they get paid whether he takes their advice or not. Just say “ Yes sir, no sir” and report to work every day.
@@aliensoup2420 well maybe, this is a wild guess so bear with me, just maybe, they care about their jobs ?
He's not wrong.
Alien Soup
Yeah but these guys got jobs in a competitive sport and most of them were most likely players in their prime. Of course they’re going to care about building their team and getting wins. Even if you’re in the front office you still get a World Series ring.
@@aliensoup2420 They want to do their job right, they want to win and they want their resumes to look good. If they just accepted without arguing, they wouldn't be worth anything and they wouldn't have lasted so long at their jobs.
"guys, check your reports or im gonna point at pete" i dont know this movie and i dont care about baseball but this line sold me.
As fascinating as this movie is, sabermetrics has been used in the MLB for many years. Beane did it more out of necessity. He knew he had to cut costs. He was willing to take this chance because his pitching staff in 2002 was very strong. They had the best pitching staff in their division that year. They also had a good coach who did an amazing job utilizing the hitters he did have. Art Howe was portrayed very poorly, he was a good coach.
They made Art Howe look bad and they also adjusted the timeline to make it fit their Hollywood script. Facts don't matter in Hollywood, but after a few years, the movie becomes fact.
"Guys, check the report or I'm gonna point at Pete!"
(Collectively): "He Gets On Base!"
🤣
Oh, so you did watch. Glad you clarified
Billy: "When I point at you, yeah." (Makes me laugh every single time.) : - )
“Scott Hatteberg!” “Who!” “Exactly sounds like an Oakland A already!”
Love out of everyone in that room arguing with Billy on his decisions, there is the old guy in the green jacket and hearing aid. He just quiet observing everyone and never makes a disapproving face to Billy naming the players. Then hits them with the truth 3:43 . He is the owner and they don't get final word. He knows that Billy is decided and just listened for what to do next.
Not owner, GM
That's all fine and well but they have been working their asses off for 6 1/2 weeks to make the ballclub better and he's shitting all over it
“Number 2: David Justice.”
“Oh no!” 🤦🏽
Priceless! 😂😂😂
I love the "You can check your reports or I'm gonna point at Pete again" line, beautifully sarcastic.
"Check your reports or I'm gonna point at Pete."
I love that.
"I have pointed at Pete. Pray I don't point at him any further."
(Darth Vader the baseball manager)
As a PhD in Applied Mathematics and broken middle aged man, I love this movie.
i wish i was good at math, good careers
Pete: “You do not.”
One of the best movies made. Watched it multi times. Gonna watch it again today.
Brad and Jonah worked seamlessly together
“This is not a discussion”. I’m a teacher and I use that line all the time. Makes me happy
this was such an amazing scene that your knowledge of baseball could start and end with your softball days back grade school, and the scene would still make perfect sense.
@Hello there, how are you doing this blessed day?
"Scott Hadenburg"
"WHO??"
"Exactly he sounds like an Oakland A already."
Hatteberg was able to get six more years of playing time in the big leagues because of Billy Beane.
best scene at this table is the discussion about the "ugly girlfriend", she's a 6 at best lol. It shows he lacks confidence ...
yeah, Brad Pitt's exasperation was palpable in that scene, like "Wtf are we talking about here"
Any aspiring coaches or managers can learn from this clip. Great teams can be made by the sum of their parts. Everyone contributes, everyone has a job. Simple, get on base with an opportunity to score. Most runs win. Applies to most any team sport.
It really doesn't though. The difference between kind and unkind games. The variables in baseball make it much more possible to control than most other sports. Similar to chess.
I'll agree with that.
i mean not really. first off all: this didn't really work. it made at best barely a playoff team, but Boston, Chicago, and Kansas City all won the world series before Oakland....in fact, Oakland still hasn't won a world series. what aspiring coaches and managers can learn from this clip is that Brad Pitt is a better actor (with that Tyler Durden swagger 20yrs later) than Billy Bean is as a manager....oh, also Jonah Hill is underrated.
second: team sports is bullshit. it's not like skateboarding where anything goes, or tennis where strategy can change on the fly without a concern of a weak link trying to play catch up. we're TOLD team sports are about gestalt, a mix of jocks and nerds playing together...but we're told that by the very toxic masculinity that DEMAND their kid's baseball team gets a participation trophy, then turn around and blame the kid for weak constitution for having a participation trophy (regardless of what the kid wants)....but truth is that there are weak jocks and dumb nerds....someone will always get the participation trophy. always.
3rd: "everyone contributes, everyone has a job"......the literal last line exchange in this clip is the mention that one of the jobs isn't filled.
fourth: if any aspiring coaches or managers had a positive takeaway from this film...it's this: it doesn't matter if you're farming local talent, or swapping around the blowouts about to end their career, or if you can blow a bloated budget on the pick of the litter, 1 holistic truth in baseball (or any sport for that matter) exists. money destroyed the integrity of the game. it's not about crafting a team based on how well the players can work together, it's about what the coin can dictate. not only has college become a bigger fan market than pro-leagues because of that, but also it's corrupted the poetry of sport to the extent of asking "what's the fucking point?" shit, Basketball is more affecting than Moneyball in terms of professional team sports.
@@tazmon122 I thought that after this all the teams pretty much went with the model Brad Pitt proposed here...thus negating any advantages it gave Oakland the first time they did it by themselves. So it worked, but afterwards Oakland just went back down to the bottom when all the other teams were recruiting the same way.
@@tazmon122 Might not have worked for the As but this whole idea of putting value on OBP has been applied to the 90s Yankees and look how they turned out. Look at the 98 yanks. High obp, no big superstars of that era (when you compare the numbers put up during the steroid era, Jeter nor any other yankee put up anything comparable), and won 125 total games. It was all about pitching, grinding out at bats, getting on base, and driving in runs whatever way you can.
I do think, nowadays, sometimes they put too much emphasis on analytics. Sometimes you need to use instinct and see how good a player is by watching him.
“David Justice..”
“Oh no…”
Lmao
To his credit, those 3 players combined OBP in 2002 was 1.140 - higher than what they had lost the previous year. Justice played 118 games. Giambi was traded after 40 something games as depicted in the movie.
i just like the idea that this happens for every team in the majors. a group of guys who have been around the game their entire lives sitting around debating, discussion, and arguing about players, stats, past performance, future performance and on and on while trying to build a team.
Haven't got the slightest interest in baseball, but I've watched this movie several times. Really well acted and based in a true story
“You gotta carry the 1...”😆
"The statistical analysis, it's so beautiful"
Sincerely Captain Raymond Holt
in regards to David Justice, I always felt he was simply one of the best "get on base", or "just get a hit" players in the game. The speed may not have been there towards the end, but, that guy knew how to put the damn ball in play.
I LOVE Moneyball. The message in this movie really resonates with me, and I'm not much of a baseball fan.
"You gotta carry the one" is the best line
This was an incredibly well-done movie and really showcases the power that a compelling narrative and interesting characters can do to get you invested in something you otherwise don’t give a damn about (can’t say I really care about baseball or the inner workings of the MLB and its various teams).
Everyone keeps saying “its not a baseball movie” but actually understanding baseball and how the game works enriches the viewing experience of this film
Old Guy - “Billy who is that guy and does he need to be here?”
Billy - 🤔 “Reminds me back in the day when I was death, shadowing a rich guy to his board meeting”
Meet Joe Black
oddly enough, this is one of the better scenes in the last 30yrs of film
Actually, Billy never says ""When I Point At You, You Speak".
Pete: "Do you want me to speak?"
Billy: "When I point at you, yeah."
Boy, I really hope somebody got fired for that blunder!
Very observant. Are you into bird watching by any chance?
@@alexiseptimus Haha. Yes.
These scenes were so well done and everyone is so good in it.
"You gotta carry the one." One of the funniest lines in this film.
You have to admit the actor in this movie Grady was very great in his role and very present! If there was a Oscar for a small bit role he’d deserve it hands down!
you know he had a career as an actual scout, right?
i feel the same. the emotions he shows are palpable, and he's 100% exactly what he was supposed to be in the film.
“Sounds like an Oakland A already” soooo true 😂
On 2:25 when Scott Hatteberg is mentioned you can read Pratt C on the board in the background the actor who played hatteberg was Chris Pratt
I have never even heard of this movie but based on this scene alone I would really like to see it.
Chance to see Chris Pratt just as he was getting big.
Really, looked incredibly boring. Like sitting through a baseball game type boring
I really enjoyed Money Ball.. some other less known movies I'd suggest if you liked Money Ball: Margin Call, Conspiracy (HBO), Eye in the sky.. all dialogue heavy, not much action but I thoroughly enjoyed them all.
It's a fantastic film
I dont know shit about baseball and this movie is dope.
0:50 You gotta carry the one. LOL
"Scotty H, picking machine." 2:28 ...LOL
The movie shows us that we should get out the box.
Understand what our goal is and go after it with commitment and discipline.
It's just that simple.
But the process is hard af fr
it helps when you have the mvp in tejada emerge and 3 ace pitchers...just saying...thats most of the battle...they did not need elite power hitters when you have great pitching
@@cmirvrv9522 of course it is hard
In the end of the movie, boston win using the same method as billy, which means the method works. While billy still in oakland a using the method but not yet win