Woolie having John play Dokapon Kingdom so he can have a worthy adversary in the future is big "Akuma trying to force Ryu into using Satsui no Hado" energy
This intro has the vibes of Glados from Portal 2 "Look, we both said a lot of things that you're going to regret. But I think we can put our differences behind us, for science. You monster."
"IS SHE IN EVERY GAME?!" I want to share my hell npc story. This was for the original PS2 version. One of my best friends in college was studying abroad from Japan and brought his PS2 with a ton of games, including Dokapon Kingdom. He didn't even know much about it, since he never had anyone to play it with. So of course, we decided to try it out one weekend. I don't remember the npc's name. All I remember is what we called him Punch Wizard. He had pink robes and never cast a single spell. All he did was punch people. And he punched them hard, since every skill point he got went into attack. Punch Wizard was merciless. If he set his eyes on you, he would hit you. There was nothing that could stop his reign of terror, even with three nerds trying our hardest to team up against him. But then the in fighting began and we never stood a chance.
The devil has many faces and names. Perhaps in one game he is Kathy. In another, he is the Punch Wizard. But he is there. Always. Watching, waiting, scheming. He is omnipresent and inevitable.
Its hilarious how John focuses all his rage at Woolie and actively shield Reggie not knowing Reggie is the Serpent, the Origin of All Evil. The first Darkling, the first Thief
The most cathartic thing about the darkling is: it doesn't give last place a boost to catch back up, but instead gives them the power to pull everyone else down with them.
Eh, technically incorrect. It IS a catch up mechanic. It's just that Dokapon is smart enough to realize that a catch up mechanic should still require you to actually work for said catching up, instead of just pressing a button and giving you the lead or whatever. We don't fuck with that wussy ass bullet bill shit here, y'know? 😂
That hit hard. This whole time I was thinking John was over here, channeling his best wrestling promos for every episode. But no, that little nerd has been writing them days in advance. "I have been handing you jewels that you let slip between your fingers." Villain shit.
I gotta say, I know it's part of the charm and all, but I am legitimately having a harder and harder time going along with the "John is the villain" angle. I know I know, most of it is just for the bit and all, but I'm genuinely absolutely on John's side and really don't get how Woolie keeps claiming some vague sense of balance or give-and-take that is just factually incorrect.
@@Jon_Eastas much as it’s part of what makes the podcast so great, it’s also a bit of why I can’t stand Woolie for longer playthroughs. He can be so infuriating with this sort of stuff
@@Jon_East hello, you must be new to the woolie "always pretending to be a fence-sitter, but actually is just sitting on top of a milk crate"Madden experience. Here's your complimentary snailborne playthrough and your compass that says port and starboard.
Woolie trying to hide that he almost played the Silent hill HD collection versions of the game and that pat had to fly through the phone to get him to change his mind
1:00:52 This is such a character defining moment for Griffith. What breaks him isn’t the year of torture, it isn’t him realizing how useless his body is, it’s not seeing Casca and Guts together, all of that contributes; but the final straw, the thing he cannot stand, is the idea of living a normal life.
2:51:06 Woolie stops laughing abruptly, eyes centering on the camera while slowly reaching a hand to the top of his head. He begins to pull, and with the sound of a zipper his visage slumps away. Fear turns to paralysis as an impossible face comes into focus, and the next stage of Kathy's plan begins...
@@TheMrrccava idk if this is imagination, or a premonition for the future of an increasingly unhinged partnership (no but that's quite the complement haha, glad to hear you enjoyed it)
Important to note: Cathy lost on purpose because she was respawning at the temple closest to Rico Jr in the Casino Cave, getting past the forest and several areas. The final gamer always has a plan indeed.
Y'know, we keep saying John is the villain of this podcast, but it sure is weird how the bottom half of the "Pantheon of Greatness" is all stuff WOOLIE recommended to him.
Tbf "missing a fighting game tournament" was entirely John's own fault and "competing in a fighting game tournament" probably would've ended up higher on the list
Woolie's favorite thing is not fighting games necessarily. That is just the best way he's able to interact with it in a video game. His favorite thing is competition. This podcast is a competition. For what? I got no idea.
Woolie sure is great at dishing it out tho you gotta admit. He's been doing that so well. Got lots of good hits in. I'm sure he has no problem taking it and wouldn't try a weak combo breaker to wriggle out of it.
My first playthrough of Dokapon was with my two best buddies in college. I remember several sessions had to end early because of how angry someone would get due to being completely destroyed by someone. I spent several turns going through a dungeon and got a special weapon perfect for my class, but I was forced to land on a blank space on the last turn of my friend's darkling run and, with the most vile grin on his face, he crossed half the world to kill me and destroy my weapon. That was the end of the session that night, I was FUMING. It took us the entire summer to finish the game, and ill never forget the experience, specifically my "friend's" grin that still shows up in my nightmares.
@@Shadowlily1112 oh yeah, friends for life even though he moved several states away for a job. It's just that devilish grin that I didn't think possible of him. I saw a part of his soul that none of us thought existed haha
@@amanwithnoname-ds6epHe showed some at the very end of the stream he did the same day this video came out, but otherwise i don't know. Maybe he has a discord or retweeted them on Twitter but I don't have access to either to be sure.
John: "Are you ever in one of those scenarios where, you know, you express a love or affection for something and someone around you - for whatever reason - needs to explain to you why it isn't actually that good?" Woolie: [visibly fidgeting, trying desperately not to scream Pat's name in to the mic]
@@Yohoat In a word, “eclectic”. For instance, I prefer the Hellboy movie from 2019 over the other adaptations of the comic. I actually LIKE Batman and Robin from ‘94 (along with a lot of movies deemed “terrible” by the general Internet populace), a lot of my favorite music is comedy novelty songs or slightly obscure metal bands, I enjoyed kid’s cartoons on PBS well into my mid to late teens during sick days from school, and I have a near complete collection of old Garfield volumes lying around somewhere. So by dint of the sheer size of my likes or me just being unlucky enough to be around people who are more outwardly rude with their opinions, I’ve dealt with more than a couple raised eyebrows and a few scattered insults on by behalf over the course of my near 29 years living.
@@nicholaspeters9919 That sounds pretty normal compared to what it could be. I mean, im pretty sure we have modern day muppets & seasame street fans who arent kids. Liking obscure metal bands isnt anything crazy either. (I've no feelings on batman & robin 94 personally.) Sounds like you've just been unlucky.
@@cheese_priestdon’t worry, ascension will definitely take that bottom spot. At least Omikron is at points funny bad. Silent hill ascension is pure misery
Counter point: John counter broke Inscryption, but he did not finish the game. Hell he himself said that: “Oh I thought I experienced all the game had, but I am actually shocked at Ch 3’s twists, I should’ve finished it”
@@vcom741 Rebuttal: Playing the game, or experiencing the media up to a certain degree, is all that is ever asked of the other when Recommend or Die happens. Finishing the game/media has never been the criteria, unless the person chooses to willingly do so like with Fear and Hunger or Omikron (of which was proven Woolie ALSO didn't play himself with the controller in his hands, so this isn't the first time he's tried to steal the pie from John). And even if you disagree with that? He played the game. He actually went out and experienced the media. He did not look up a Let's Play, and he most certainly did more than dip his toes in the water. Woolie watched a single episode of John's videos and didn't even know where to find the series to watch it. This moment is going to be held as example of fraudulent usage of Combo Breaker for the rest of the podcast, and rightfully so.
@@yhposolihP I VERY strongly disagree with Omikron still being on the table. By that logic, did game grumps never experience any of the games they played whenever they passed the controller? Woolie played it with 2 other guys in the room with him. He experienced the game, he is clear. I do partially agree with John being allowed to give Woolie Ascension…but specifically only after he specified: “Go and finish it”. I would argue the Combo Breaker holds, but the extended mission of: “Experiencing all of Ascension” is a valid reply.
@@vcom741 So here's where I might not be on board with your take on Omikron not being on the table, but you might need to help me out here, because I could completely be misremembering. You asked if Game Grumps wouldn't have experienced the games they played whenever they passed the controller, and of course that answer to that is "of course they would have. They played the games they played, even if they split them up between whoever was in the room." John's reasoning for Omikron being on the table? "Your hands were never on that controller, were they, Woolie?" Going by the qualifier you just put up about the controller being passed, and assuming the statement John said is true, that would 100% mean, by your own train of logic, that Omikron is on the table. No hand on the controller? Didn't play it. I could even go one step further and argue that because he never touched a controller, Woolie was watching a Let's Play. In person, yeah, but he was there watching it. BUT. BUT BUT BUT. BIG, BIG BUT. It's been YEARS since I've seen that playthrough, and I don't think I need to tell you how much of a freaking fever dream that entire series is. All I remember is Woolie being in the room, using a guide to help them through the worst, most ugly parts of the game (Woolie's double-speak of saying that one of them was "in charge of traversal" leans to that). But there's a lot of that game, and so, so much of it doesn't make sense. So I want to ask you, in completely good faith: If I were to go back and watch that series, would there be significant, notable portions of it where Woolie has his hands on the controller playing the game (meaning more than someone just getting frustrated, handing over the controller, and going "HERE, YOU TRY IT, THEN.")? Or was this mostly Matt and Pat? Quick edit about Ascension: Frankly, if Woolie hadn't have admitted to experiencing it being a Let's Play, I'd agree with you. Even if it's just one episode... let's face it, if you've seen an hour of Ascension, you've seen all of it. One of the established rules is "No Let's Plays", though, so that's pretty open and shut in my opinion.
Best ending to date! Woolie, I wanted to have your back after "A Combo Breaker? HERE?", truly a beautiful moment. But to hear you say "pretty much the first episode", that's no Combo Breaker. Clever play, not fully executed though... And John, you both can be the villains! One does not exclude the other. Appreciate the work from you two so much! Thank you for another fantastic episode!
I can’t believe Woolie sat at the end of that hallway like Hisoka telling John he can’t play dokapon with the big boys till he can see the nen. Must have been watching those clips from John’s adventure hitting a mad glowing ‘shwing’ as the fruit was ripening before his eyes
in regards to john being baffled that he's the villain of this podcast despite only recommending good things and being met with the answer that he's the villain cause he's john, obviously the more nuanced answer is he threatens and he villain monologues. however i will give john this woolie is also a villain, it's just that john is a super villain. so to bring it up to a hunter x hunter comparison it's like john is hisoka while woolie is tonpa. but as has become evident as of last month's podcast and this month's podcast john has unkowingly performed a nen initiation in more ways than just showing woolie nen in hunter x hunter, he has awakened the seed of super villainy inside of woolie aswell. there are no more heroes it's kill or be killed
One participant in this podcast had to endure a trial of mettle in a world gone mad, full of demons twisted by the power of humanity's innermost depravity. He was forced to watch as a seemingly mighty warrior was tested time and again by a world that seemed designed to cheat them out of every hard-earned victory. The other had to read Berserk.
This show is such an event for me each month I'm half expecting one episode to have John in a sweater, then at R.O.D. he takes it off to reveal he's been in a suit.
Honestly, omikron looked absolutely like a miserable piece of trash fire. Nothing is worse than confusing level layouts coupled with awkward controls, extremely outdated and _bad_ RPG mechanics and inventory systems from that era of transitioning to 3D, and then you have David Cage's creepy... everything on top of it. At least Ascension is in that kind of "it's so bad it's funny", and you can be kind of fascinated by how this thing even exists or what it was ever meant to accomplish. And best of all is you don't even have to play it, you just have to watch it.
All John is doing is sharing the suffering he already inflicted on himself and Woolie is so scared of it he tried to bluff a combo breaker! Maybe someone needs to get dragged off his high horse.
Also notable is that Woolie, instead of doing multiple runs to try out different characters/tactics/routes and figure things out, essentially brute forced it on what i believe was only his second attempt. I believe the comment was "Jon played F&H like Griffith, Woolie played it like Guts."
One more big comment so I can gush about the morning dew monologue: Appreciate the symbolic gravity of what Griffith is saying here. How closely tied his character is with the nature of dreams and desires. The story is essentially telling us that his true self, the innocent child, is a state he wants to return to above all else. To embrace the familiar warmth of Guts and Casca through the moonlight boy. But it's too late. He failed to recognize or admit to himself what they meant to him at the Eclipse and is now forever barred from achieving his real dream. It's a mirage. A fleeting sensation felt vicariously instead of with his own flesh and blood. He has the kingdom he sought and all it's brought him is profound loneliness. Itself barely felt before giving way to nothing. A final tear. A frozen heart. It's just...so fucking tragic and humanizing for such a monstrous character. Miura was iconic and beautiful until the very end. Going from that to Isidro gassing up Serpico because he jumped over a railing is partially why I got fed up with Sandworms of Berk.
Katherine the Great aka Kathy shall take back the land that rightfully belongs to her after Gabrielle "Grifith" The Witch abandons her humanity and Steve "Chill" The Warrior just vibes. And then we have John "The Worst" Eyepatchwolf trying to survive.
Kathy is the best main gamer and this jo*n isn't even famous at anything. Did he make a video about Wrestling, Hunter X Hunter, Dragon Ball, The Fall of Bleach and it's sequel 4 years later or Fear and Hungry and even fake videos game. Nobody knows anything about this Fake Eyepatch Dog anyway and he seems to love Garfield and thinks the latest movie is amazing LoL. Queen Kathy shall destroy this FAKE Final Gamer in Dokapon Kingdom
I’m only part of the way in and I can truly say I would protect Philippe with my life. I hope he’s living his best existence. Edit: a valiant battle, almost a worthy foe to Kathy. You are a noble warrior indeed, Hobo Crawfish!
I grew up consuming (and still do) a lot of what I guess could be precieved as negative media. Stuff with dark tones or a lot of self deprecation. Lots of punk rock and the like. As I grow older I really appreciate Puck more and more. Its easy to get bogged down in a certain mindset if thats all thats presented to you or you expose yourself to. We need a reminder that not everything is so bleak and Puck is the embodiment of that. Fucking love that little bug.
"I AM NOT THE VILLAIN" John exclaimed almost frothing at the mouth. He stared frenzied at his 'so called' friend as he wipes the saliva away from his lips like a hungry beast.
Last episode I commented that if my calculations were not too far off, this episode would fall near my birthday, but I didn't expect it to nail it. Couldn't have wished for a better birthday present from two grown men who have never met me.
Puck is the absolute MVP for me. He carried me through the Black Swordsman and Lost Children arcs where I almost put the series down for good. I never would have gotten into or out of Golden Age without him.
his first mistake was assuming there even were a hero and a villain in this podcast; there is a sadist and a masochist beating each other up with media, and unfortunately for him, Woolie is the latter (and full disclaimer before anyone starts replying weird stuff, no I don't mean that way, I just mean Woolie thrives off of cringe)
@@FaelumbreProjectI mean he is a prowrestling guy. If there's a heel, there's gotta be a face. And there's no denying that John is a heel. He is just of delusional kind who think he's not
havent seen this episode yet but unironically after hearing about johns turmoil i kinda want to see woolie get a taste of his own medicine. like im shocked wolves versus is even still around, its only a matter of time before woolie repents
I mean this in complete sincerity, if you haven't watched John's Dokapon streams (or videos on regular eyepatch wolf), the fight between him and Kathy is literally more hype than any DBZ battle. If you haven't gotten to the dokapon section yet, I would say this is REQUIRED viewing because John's retelling can't fully capture that magic of being present for those streams or videos.
you know the level of enjoyment of people watching Kathy that in a video where two buddies are talking about berserk, but the main comments are about her, and also maybe sometime the other guy named john
Having Woolie reference C- and C+ scaling is really wild cause I've been rewatching the Dark Souls LP while going through it myself and that playthough is 7 years old and it still makes Woolie upset lmao.
"We *love* Berserk when it comes in the form of Fear and Hunger!" John's right, Woolie is *absolutely* the villain of this Podcast, but John *deserves* it.
This show is gonna escalate to the point that bears are being wrestled in the woods and ancient artifacts are being recovered from the depth of forgotten ruins "Your challenge is to LOCATE AND DRINK FROM THE HOLY GRAIL!" "You mean... THIS HOLY GRAIL?!" "WHAT? NO!" "YES! COMBO BREAKER!!!"
Woolie's smug satisfsction at his combo breaker turning to ash as John realizes why he's called "Woolie the Liar" is the best moment or this podcast. Hands down
John’s whole hearted belief that he is just and righteous is what makes him a great villain.
Is everything Berzerk
"I'm not a villain! I'm not a villain!" I continue to insist as i slowly recite my shonen antagonist monologue
Woolie having John play Dokapon Kingdom so he can have a worthy adversary in the future is big "Akuma trying to force Ryu into using Satsui no Hado" energy
Considering Woolie technically started his career, i think he's actually Yujiro Hanma right now
@@arosbastion7052 what. Are u crazy or just new?
The best part of the combo resurrection was John had JUST established that only watching an episode wasn't enough for a combo breaker with LOTGH.
That argument had as many turnabouts as that John vs Kathy fight.
It really was Dokapon appropriate.
This is why he isn’t the villain of the podcast.
This intro has the vibes of Glados from Portal 2
"Look, we both said a lot of things that you're going to regret. But I think we can put our differences behind us, for science. You monster."
The best part is, they’re both Glados
"IS SHE IN EVERY GAME?!"
I want to share my hell npc story. This was for the original PS2 version. One of my best friends in college was studying abroad from Japan and brought his PS2 with a ton of games, including Dokapon Kingdom. He didn't even know much about it, since he never had anyone to play it with. So of course, we decided to try it out one weekend.
I don't remember the npc's name. All I remember is what we called him Punch Wizard. He had pink robes and never cast a single spell. All he did was punch people. And he punched them hard, since every skill point he got went into attack.
Punch Wizard was merciless. If he set his eyes on you, he would hit you. There was nothing that could stop his reign of terror, even with three nerds trying our hardest to team up against him. But then the in fighting began and we never stood a chance.
The devil has many faces and names. Perhaps in one game he is Kathy. In another, he is the Punch Wizard. But he is there. Always. Watching, waiting, scheming. He is omnipresent and inevitable.
Punch Wizard is a terrifying name.
You were the minor villians in Punch Wizard's shounen manga.
Woolie thought he had a combo breaker but forgot about the Irish rollback frames.
Man was feeling too much notion
The Irish GGPO hit so hard it sent us back into Xbox 360 Third Strike.
It’s like he almost knew his combo would be broken just by a mild glance at what was clearly not even dipping his toes in
Its hilarious how John focuses all his rage at Woolie and actively shield Reggie not knowing Reggie is the Serpent, the Origin of All Evil. The first Darkling, the first Thief
Woolie may have stolen the pie, but Reggie was the one to stick his finger in it
The furtive pygmy, so easily forgotten
@@Carlos-Moraunfathomably strong comment
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist
Good Dark Souls boss name: Sir Reggie Origin of the First Sin
The gall of this man to try to claim combo breaker on that... Unbelievable
COUNTER BREAKER!!!!
He didn't even know where to find it, he just watched an episode vicariously through John's 'playthrough'. That was the weakest combo breaker
@@TRDEWH 😅😅😅😅
and people will still call John the villain just because he's a natural heel with his speeches
During the intro talk, they both seem like they are sharpening knives while smiling at eachother while also saying nice things between themselves
2:24:10 Woolie Madden knew he could not play Terror And Starvation, so instead of reflecting on himself, he blames the wolf.
CHAOS AND CALM...
REVOLT 1...
LET'S DANCE!
The most cathartic thing about the darkling is: it doesn't give last place a boost to catch back up, but instead gives them the power to pull everyone else down with them.
Death is cheap. Resetting the progress on everyone’s towns is devastating.
Yup. It isn't a catch up mechanic, it's a break down mechanic.
Eh, technically incorrect. It IS a catch up mechanic. It's just that Dokapon is smart enough to realize that a catch up mechanic should still require you to actually work for said catching up, instead of just pressing a button and giving you the lead or whatever. We don't fuck with that wussy ass bullet bill shit here, y'know? 😂
The Eclipse destroys all, even the one who performs ascends. Some might say especially them.
It does give you exp, potentially a lot if you play it right, and almost guaranteed enough to reach everyone else's level if you're lower.
John, “WHAT? NO! HOW?!?!” is literally the thing a villain says before the big attack from a shonen protag…
John acts innocent until the cards are down, then he sounds like a villain monologuing
3:09:04 - "I hate that I chose to do a podcast with a godamn video essayist." - Woolie Madden
That hit hard. This whole time I was thinking John was over here, channeling his best wrestling promos for every episode. But no, that little nerd has been writing them days in advance. "I have been handing you jewels that you let slip between your fingers."
Villain shit.
I gotta say, I know it's part of the charm and all, but I am legitimately having a harder and harder time going along with the "John is the villain" angle. I know I know, most of it is just for the bit and all, but I'm genuinely absolutely on John's side and really don't get how Woolie keeps claiming some vague sense of balance or give-and-take that is just factually incorrect.
@@Jon_Eastas much as it’s part of what makes the podcast so great, it’s also a bit of why I can’t stand Woolie for longer playthroughs. He can be so infuriating with this sort of stuff
@@Jon_East hello, you must be new to the woolie "always pretending to be a fence-sitter, but actually is just sitting on top of a milk crate"Madden experience.
Here's your complimentary snailborne playthrough and your compass that says port and starboard.
Woolie trying to hide that he almost played the Silent hill HD collection versions of the game and that pat had to fly through the phone to get him to change his mind
1:00:52
This is such a character defining moment for Griffith. What breaks him isn’t the year of torture, it isn’t him realizing how useless his body is, it’s not seeing Casca and Guts together, all of that contributes; but the final straw, the thing he cannot stand, is the idea of living a normal life.
I can just picture him saying "I didn't do all of this to be content. I did this to be great, at any cost.
i somehow hadnt quite caught that before thanks for the insight
And later in the manga, Guts has a similar dream of a life with Casca, and he goes "it was such a pleasant dream." Giving a parallel to these two.
"A content life is death to the Great"
2:51:06 Woolie stops laughing abruptly, eyes centering on the camera while slowly reaching a hand to the top of his head. He begins to pull, and with the sound of a zipper his visage slumps away. Fear turns to paralysis as an impossible face comes into focus, and the next stage of Kathy's plan begins...
Are you a Super Eyepatch Wolf ghost writer??
@@TheMrrccava idk if this is imagination, or a premonition for the future of an increasingly unhinged partnership
(no but that's quite the complement haha, glad to hear you enjoyed it)
"You will weep for Homecoming" is one of the coldest lines in the history of this podcast. Bravo, John, you've done it.
Damn, the double switch in the end was fantastic, for a second I really believed Woolie foresaw this.
I would like to say that John doesn't exist because there is only Hobocrawfish LoL
Important to note: Cathy lost on purpose because she was respawning at the temple closest to Rico Jr in the Casino Cave, getting past the forest and several areas. The final gamer always has a plan indeed.
3:06:51 screaming, "THIS ISN'T A VILLAIN THING" at the top of your lungs is such a John villian moment
Y'know, we keep saying John is the villain of this podcast, but it sure is weird how the bottom half of the "Pantheon of Greatness" is all stuff WOOLIE recommended to him.
Tbf "missing a fighting game tournament" was entirely John's own fault and "competing in a fighting game tournament" probably would've ended up higher on the list
Woolie's favorite thing is not fighting games necessarily. That is just the best way he's able to interact with it in a video game. His favorite thing is competition. This podcast is a competition. For what? I got no idea.
@@Aikaosu maybe Woolie will figure it out, someday
Who is saying John is the heel here? Literally no one and people that are fucking wrong. Woolie might be the Anti Christ incarnate.
Woolie sure is great at dishing it out tho you gotta admit. He's been doing that so well. Got lots of good hits in.
I'm sure he has no problem taking it and wouldn't try a weak combo breaker to wriggle out of it.
I love the idea of woolie sitting down and voluntarily consuming trash media to inoculate himself against john
Shortly after this episode dropped, John was obliterated by a meteor from Gabrielle.
That’s good, means he’s back at the castle and can use that Show Ticket without threat of it being stolen by THE HATED ENEMY.
@@maxspecshe already used the ticket several streams ago
@@PredictableEnigmathats where the youtube uploads are at rn
@@PredictableEnigmawhere are the TH-cam episodes
As he should.
2:29:21 the synced up "THIS IS INSANE" is hilarious
My first playthrough of Dokapon was with my two best buddies in college. I remember several sessions had to end early because of how angry someone would get due to being completely destroyed by someone. I spent several turns going through a dungeon and got a special weapon perfect for my class, but I was forced to land on a blank space on the last turn of my friend's darkling run and, with the most vile grin on his face, he crossed half the world to kill me and destroy my weapon. That was the end of the session that night, I was FUMING. It took us the entire summer to finish the game, and ill never forget the experience, specifically my "friend's" grin that still shows up in my nightmares.
Are you still friends?
@@Shadowlily1112 oh yeah, friends for life even though he moved several states away for a job. It's just that devilish grin that I didn't think possible of him. I saw a part of his soul that none of us thought existed haha
While not as compelling a character as Kathy it's nice that HoboCrawfish got his own spin-off.
This was written before the pact, and by technicality does not break it.
Do you know where people post the fanart that Jon mentioned?
@@amanwithnoname-ds6ep...twitter or his subscriber discord, no?
@@amanwithnoname-ds6epHe showed some at the very end of the stream he did the same day this video came out, but otherwise i don't know. Maybe he has a discord or retweeted them on Twitter but I don't have access to either to be sure.
@@1000Tomatoes alright, thanks.
John: "Are you ever in one of those scenarios where, you know, you express a love or affection for something and someone around you - for whatever reason - needs to explain to you why it isn't actually that good?"
Woolie: [visibly fidgeting, trying desperately not to scream Pat's name in to the mic]
That’s why I’ve just stopped trying to talk about myself in public. It keeps happening with a curious regularity.
@@nicholaspeters9919very curious what media you consume lmao
@@Yohoat In a word, “eclectic”. For instance, I prefer the Hellboy movie from 2019 over the other adaptations of the comic. I actually LIKE Batman and Robin from ‘94 (along with a lot of movies deemed “terrible” by the general Internet populace), a lot of my favorite music is comedy novelty songs or slightly obscure metal bands, I enjoyed kid’s cartoons on PBS well into my mid to late teens during sick days from school, and I have a near complete collection of old Garfield volumes lying around somewhere.
So by dint of the sheer size of my likes or me just being unlucky enough to be around people who are more outwardly rude with their opinions, I’ve dealt with more than a couple raised eyebrows and a few scattered insults on by behalf over the course of my near 29 years living.
@@nicholaspeters9919 That sounds pretty normal compared to what it could be.
I mean, im pretty sure we have modern day muppets & seasame street fans who arent kids. Liking obscure metal bands isnt anything crazy either. (I've no feelings on batman & robin 94 personally.)
Sounds like you've just been unlucky.
You mean trying not to scream REGGIE FFS
I'm not skipping to the end, I'm chewing on this episode the whole way through baby. I've waited weeks for this. MAY KATHY EVER REIGN
Team Gabrielle! LET'S GO GABBY!
The Final Gamer is dead, long live the Final Gamer.
Kathy is so yesterday, team Lose10Pounds all the way
Woolie don’t know what he messing wit
“May Kathy take the world. MAY KATHY. TAKE. THE WORLD!!!”
The presence of The Throne of Heaven implies the existence of The Pit of Hell, in which lie the most foul and despicable of the unranked. I am afraid.
I mean. Whats worse than Omikron?
@@TimBagels That is EXACTLY what I'm afraid of. Who knows what strange and terrible media lurks in the minds of Woolie and John?
@@cheese_priestdon’t worry, ascension will definitely take that bottom spot. At least Omikron is at points funny bad. Silent hill ascension is pure misery
@@cadenyt2475as they placed so nicely, "Versus Wolves favors atrocities than mediocrity" or something similar to that!
How dare Woolie try to issue a bullshit combo breaker against John. Truly, Woolie is the villain of versus wolves lol
Yeaaa he doesnt know what a combo breaker is apparently
Counter point: John counter broke Inscryption, but he did not finish the game. Hell he himself said that: “Oh I thought I experienced all the game had, but I am actually shocked at Ch 3’s twists, I should’ve finished it”
@@vcom741 Rebuttal: Playing the game, or experiencing the media up to a certain degree, is all that is ever asked of the other when Recommend or Die happens. Finishing the game/media has never been the criteria, unless the person chooses to willingly do so like with Fear and Hunger or Omikron (of which was proven Woolie ALSO didn't play himself with the controller in his hands, so this isn't the first time he's tried to steal the pie from John). And even if you disagree with that? He played the game. He actually went out and experienced the media. He did not look up a Let's Play, and he most certainly did more than dip his toes in the water. Woolie watched a single episode of John's videos and didn't even know where to find the series to watch it. This moment is going to be held as example of fraudulent usage of Combo Breaker for the rest of the podcast, and rightfully so.
@@yhposolihP I VERY strongly disagree with Omikron still being on the table. By that logic, did game grumps never experience any of the games they played whenever they passed the controller? Woolie played it with 2 other guys in the room with him. He experienced the game, he is clear.
I do partially agree with John being allowed to give Woolie Ascension…but specifically only after he specified: “Go and finish it”. I would argue the Combo Breaker holds, but the extended mission of: “Experiencing all of Ascension” is a valid reply.
@@vcom741 So here's where I might not be on board with your take on Omikron not being on the table, but you might need to help me out here, because I could completely be misremembering. You asked if Game Grumps wouldn't have experienced the games they played whenever they passed the controller, and of course that answer to that is "of course they would have. They played the games they played, even if they split them up between whoever was in the room."
John's reasoning for Omikron being on the table? "Your hands were never on that controller, were they, Woolie?"
Going by the qualifier you just put up about the controller being passed, and assuming the statement John said is true, that would 100% mean, by your own train of logic, that Omikron is on the table. No hand on the controller? Didn't play it. I could even go one step further and argue that because he never touched a controller, Woolie was watching a Let's Play. In person, yeah, but he was there watching it.
BUT. BUT BUT BUT. BIG, BIG BUT. It's been YEARS since I've seen that playthrough, and I don't think I need to tell you how much of a freaking fever dream that entire series is. All I remember is Woolie being in the room, using a guide to help them through the worst, most ugly parts of the game (Woolie's double-speak of saying that one of them was "in charge of traversal" leans to that). But there's a lot of that game, and so, so much of it doesn't make sense. So I want to ask you, in completely good faith:
If I were to go back and watch that series, would there be significant, notable portions of it where Woolie has his hands on the controller playing the game (meaning more than someone just getting frustrated, handing over the controller, and going "HERE, YOU TRY IT, THEN.")? Or was this mostly Matt and Pat?
Quick edit about Ascension: Frankly, if Woolie hadn't have admitted to experiencing it being a Let's Play, I'd agree with you. Even if it's just one episode... let's face it, if you've seen an hour of Ascension, you've seen all of it. One of the established rules is "No Let's Plays", though, so that's pretty open and shut in my opinion.
Johns breakdown at the recommend ir die segment is divine, ace attorney killer level shit as he declares that he isnt the bad guy
Every new episode of Versus Crawfish is a treat.
WOOLIE THOUGHT THAT FRAUD ASS COMBO BREAKER 1 EPISDOE WAS GONNA FLY
Best ending to date! Woolie, I wanted to have your back after "A Combo Breaker? HERE?", truly a beautiful moment.
But to hear you say "pretty much the first episode", that's no Combo Breaker. Clever play, not fully executed though...
And John, you both can be the villains! One does not exclude the other.
Appreciate the work from you two so much! Thank you for another fantastic episode!
The postcredits scene hit so, so goddamn hard
The sound of cops in the back as Dokapon Kingdom is mentioned. Perfect 👌.
They're just arriving ahead of time for the inevitable attempted murders wherever the game appears.
After hearing John’s recommendation, I can completely understand the support for Kathy, the true hero.
I love how this podcast is just woolie slowly turning john into Griffith
3:13:50 GOD I lost when Woolie had to fess up to watching it on John's STREAM VOD lmao go enjoy the Merging Ceremony!
Yeaa why would one episode be enough? Also cant you make your own choices?
Remember that Homecoming was the game that broke Matt to a point Pat had to do an almost solo rest of the playthrough.
Matt was always weak of spirit.
@@TyrantWesker
And bereft of axe
Woolie not knowing about the Idea of Evil chapter blew me away. holy shit
Start of the podcast: should we box, or should we roll?
Half a year later: FUCK IT WE DOKAPON
I can’t believe Woolie sat at the end of that hallway like Hisoka telling John he can’t play dokapon with the big boys till he can see the nen. Must have been watching those clips from John’s adventure hitting a mad glowing ‘shwing’ as the fruit was ripening before his eyes
in regards to john being baffled that he's the villain of this podcast despite only recommending good things and being met with the answer that he's the villain cause he's john, obviously the more nuanced answer is he threatens and he villain monologues. however i will give john this woolie is also a villain, it's just that john is a super villain. so to bring it up to a hunter x hunter comparison it's like john is hisoka while woolie is tonpa.
but as has become evident as of last month's podcast and this month's podcast john has unkowingly performed a nen initiation in more ways than just showing woolie nen in hunter x hunter, he has awakened the seed of super villainy inside of woolie aswell.
there are no more heroes it's kill or be killed
One participant in this podcast had to endure a trial of mettle in a world gone mad, full of demons twisted by the power of humanity's innermost depravity. He was forced to watch as a seemingly mighty warrior was tested time and again by a world that seemed designed to cheat them out of every hard-earned victory.
The other had to read Berserk.
As this video was posted, The Final Gamer is currently fighting John in another stream of Dokapon Kingdom
John's "I DIDN'T HEAR NO BELL" fight with Kathy is so hype
Guys I fear I shall develop a serious heart condition listening to these fellow nerds attempt to tear eachother to shreds.
Dokapon Kingdom is simply Mario Party X Munchkin.
That's why it's the best "board" game ever made.
Every single episode of this podcast feels like John's villain origin story
Watching versus wolves is like watching a negotiation where both parties keep placing guns on the table to intimidate the other party.
This becomes more accurate the deeper I get into the episode. 😂
This show is such an event for me each month
I'm half expecting one episode to have John in a sweater, then at R.O.D. he takes it off to reveal he's been in a suit.
One of these days one of them is showing up to record the podcast in his birthday suit and we're all just gonna have to be ok with that
I'm so excited to hear John regale Woolie with the Ballad of Kathy, his mortal enemy.
COMBO RESURRECTION HOLY SHIT woolie should have known THAT THE FINAL GAMER ALWAYS HAS A PLAN!
Its crazy that John FINALLY recommended Woolie to play Scrimblo Bimblo after all this time.
John: I am NOT the villain of this podcast I am just misrepresented!
Also John: Watch Silent Hill Ascension!!
In his defense, he spared Woolie for Omikron and had just been put through Dokapon
Nah I'm with SEW on this one, one bad recommendation is maybe fair play but woolie pushed that button TWICE and deserves to get punched back.
@@DoctorHam It's called a receipt in the business, brotherrrrrrr
Honestly, omikron looked absolutely like a miserable piece of trash fire. Nothing is worse than confusing level layouts coupled with awkward controls, extremely outdated and _bad_ RPG mechanics and inventory systems from that era of transitioning to 3D, and then you have David Cage's creepy... everything on top of it. At least Ascension is in that kind of "it's so bad it's funny", and you can be kind of fascinated by how this thing even exists or what it was ever meant to accomplish. And best of all is you don't even have to play it, you just have to watch it.
All John is doing is sharing the suffering he already inflicted on himself and Woolie is so scared of it he tried to bluff a combo breaker! Maybe someone needs to get dragged off his high horse.
John had no idea how appropriate Woolie's pick of Dokapon was against Berserk...until IT happened!
John is right that Woolie made the Fear and Hunger challenge so much harder on himself. He never told him to beat the game.
Also notable is that Woolie, instead of doing multiple runs to try out different characters/tactics/routes and figure things out, essentially brute forced it on what i believe was only his second attempt. I believe the comment was "Jon played F&H like Griffith, Woolie played it like Guts."
@@therealjohnrenzi1817 and still seemingly blames John for his own choices lol
2:29:20 the simultaneous "this is INSANE" between past John and present Wooly goes SO HARD
John unleashed his strike, then Woolie countered and thought he was winning, then John countered the counter.
The best way to tell that you are a heel is inisisting that you are not a heel
One more big comment so I can gush about the morning dew monologue:
Appreciate the symbolic gravity of what Griffith is saying here. How closely tied his character is with the nature of dreams and desires. The story is essentially telling us that his true self, the innocent child, is a state he wants to return to above all else. To embrace the familiar warmth of Guts and Casca through the moonlight boy.
But it's too late. He failed to recognize or admit to himself what they meant to him at the Eclipse and is now forever barred from achieving his real dream. It's a mirage. A fleeting sensation felt vicariously instead of with his own flesh and blood.
He has the kingdom he sought and all it's brought him is profound loneliness. Itself barely felt before giving way to nothing. A final tear. A frozen heart.
It's just...so fucking tragic and humanizing for such a monstrous character. Miura was iconic and beautiful until the very end. Going from that to Isidro gassing up Serpico because he jumped over a railing is partially why I got fed up with Sandworms of Berk.
LoGH is fantastic, HoboCrawfish is in for a treat. Will be interesting to hear next podcast. Meanwhile, will wait for next Kathy stream.
Cant wait to see John returning as the prince of Death next podcast after getting his soul slayn by Destined Covid.
Glad to see the PVP podcast format is still going strong.
Katherine the Great aka Kathy shall take back the land that rightfully belongs to her after Gabrielle "Grifith" The Witch abandons her humanity and Steve "Chill" The Warrior just vibes. And then we have John "The Worst" Eyepatchwolf trying to survive.
Eyepatchwolf? Did you mean Hobocrawfish?
John’s friend sound like someone who started played DMC at the reboot.
Damn I feel called out
It wasn't a bad game, just an offensive experience. But not actually bad to play.
@@fluidthought42 What does this even mean lol
You're telling me that Woolie The Liar (stealer of pies) would be the first to try and decieve us like this?!?!
SHAME!!!
This episode's sponsored entirely by Kathy.
Using the money she stole from John
@@grandobsidianImplying the money ever truly belonged to John.
@@grandobsidianthat was always Kathy's money, John was just holding on to it for her
Kathy is the best main gamer and this jo*n isn't even famous at anything. Did he make a video about Wrestling, Hunter X Hunter, Dragon Ball, The Fall of Bleach and it's sequel 4 years later or Fear and Hungry and even fake videos game.
Nobody knows anything about this Fake Eyepatch Dog anyway and he seems to love Garfield and thinks the latest movie is amazing LoL.
Queen Kathy shall destroy this FAKE Final Gamer in Dokapon Kingdom
I can't believe she paid John's debts, resurrected herself from the dead twice, and could still sponsor this podcast.
A multiplayer marathon pokapon match should become the next charity marathon
I feel betrayed that they're not both wearing suits.😂
"Did this suggestion change after Dokapon?" Oh Woolie a lot of things changed after Dokapon almost like a Hawk of Light bringing a new dawn
I’m only part of the way in and I can truly say I would protect Philippe with my life. I hope he’s living his best existence.
Edit: a valiant battle, almost a worthy foe to Kathy. You are a noble warrior indeed, Hobo Crawfish!
I grew up consuming (and still do) a lot of what I guess could be precieved as negative media. Stuff with dark tones or a lot of self deprecation. Lots of punk rock and the like. As I grow older I really appreciate Puck more and more. Its easy to get bogged down in a certain mindset if thats all thats presented to you or you expose yourself to. We need a reminder that not everything is so bleak and Puck is the embodiment of that.
Fucking love that little bug.
HOW DOES THIS PODCAST GET MORE ENTERTAINING EVERY TIME?
I hope this Podcast never ends
Oh, it will.....probably in blood 🤣
they have guaranteed that it will continue until John or woolie are dead
so like 3 more episodes?
The final episode of this podcast should be a dokapon run
2:29:20 Woolie and Past John say this is insane at the same time
2:29:48
Kathy: Stand proud HoboCrawfish, you are strong.
"I AM NOT THE VILLAIN" John exclaimed almost frothing at the mouth. He stared frenzied at his 'so called' friend as he wipes the saliva away from his lips like a hungry beast.
2:29:21 woolie and recorded john saying "this is insane!" in perfect synchro is amazing
Last episode I commented that if my calculations were not too far off, this episode would fall near my birthday, but I didn't expect it to nail it. Couldn't have wished for a better birthday present from two grown men who have never met me.
Happy birthday!
@@sebastianmauritzell6072 thanks man
Happy birthday!!!
Happy Birthday man
Each episode drops on the last Friday of each month
Puck is the absolute MVP for me. He carried me through the Black Swordsman and Lost Children arcs where I almost put the series down for good. I never would have gotten into or out of Golden Age without him.
Oh Hey a new episode of Versus Crawfish! I've been waiting for this!
johns friend is like finding a shiny pokemon in real life
2:07:33 Minh: "It's not always about the money, Woolie."
John spent 10 full minutes villain monologuing his way to a combo breaker lmfao
only for John's combo to re-form like the T-1000
his first mistake was assuming there even were a hero and a villain in this podcast; there is a sadist and a masochist beating each other up with media, and unfortunately for him, Woolie is the latter
(and full disclaimer before anyone starts replying weird stuff, no I don't mean that way, I just mean Woolie thrives off of cringe)
@@FaelumbreProjectI mean he is a prowrestling guy. If there's a heel, there's gotta be a face. And there's no denying that John is a heel. He is just of delusional kind who think he's not
@@StanNotSoSaint Imma be honest though, both of these guys are heels
@@jetteyes2064 yeah. But John just outheels Woolie. By a lot. So it's not like Woolie's a face, it's just John is heeling harder =ъ
I can't believe Woolie recommended Omikron AGAIN! 😱
What a mad lad.
When Johnn is pointing the same gun at Woolie
havent seen this episode yet but unironically after hearing about johns turmoil i kinda want to see woolie get a taste of his own medicine. like im shocked wolves versus is even still around, its only a matter of time before woolie repents
I mean this in complete sincerity, if you haven't watched John's Dokapon streams (or videos on regular eyepatch wolf), the fight between him and Kathy is literally more hype than any DBZ battle. If you haven't gotten to the dokapon section yet, I would say this is REQUIRED viewing because John's retelling can't fully capture that magic of being present for those streams or videos.
you know the level of enjoyment of people watching Kathy that in a video where two buddies are talking about berserk, but the main comments are about her, and also maybe sometime the other guy named john
John’s hair turning into a bowl cut sends me
Oh nooooo at 2:27:50 Woolie coughs, a bit of phlegm flies on his mic and it stays there for the REMAINDER OF THE PODCAST
I screamed when this happened good god lmaooo
Eh bodies are gross but we all got them
WHY YOU HAD TO POINT THIS OUT MY DUDE
You could have said nothing.
i was wondering if i was the only one who noticed that.
Having Woolie reference C- and C+ scaling is really wild cause I've been rewatching the Dark Souls LP while going through it myself and that playthough is 7 years old and it still makes Woolie upset lmao.
"To the merging ritual"
We are so on.
“May Kathy take the world. MAY KATHY. TAKE. THE WORLD!!!”
"We *love* Berserk when it comes in the form of Fear and Hunger!"
John's right, Woolie is *absolutely* the villain of this Podcast, but John *deserves* it.
This show is gonna escalate to the point that bears are being wrestled in the woods and ancient artifacts are being recovered from the depth of forgotten ruins
"Your challenge is to LOCATE AND DRINK FROM THE HOLY GRAIL!"
"You mean... THIS HOLY GRAIL?!"
"WHAT? NO!"
"YES! COMBO BREAKER!!!"
Woolie's smug satisfsction at his combo breaker turning to ash as John realizes why he's called "Woolie the Liar" is the best moment or this podcast. Hands down
I absolutely love that at 2:29:20 both Woolie and John in the stream VOD say "This is insane!" in perfect sync.
Something about Kathy going from Thief to Cleric feels like social commentary
Man this episode was a journey of highs and lows.