"Being a fan isn't UNCONDITIONALLY loving something" - Man I wish that mentality was the status quo in every fandom, would rid a lot of the inherent toxicity
@WindTheBrave im not a fanboy like you and im not an idiot who loves something i only like something arent you basically apart of an echo chamber or just in a terrible community.
Unironically with how well the current anime is doing, and if they fix cour 3/4 (no idea how bad it is I haven't read the manga but i heard it was very rushed) like they did with the current cours I can see him making a rise of bleach video.
You are that close to making a perfect comment and you miss it, my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined Edit: understandable, have a nice day
@@zootmusiclube5971 Good. Because for reference I dropped out near the end of the Soul Society so literally the only things I know about him is his name and what he looks like and he's still one of my favorite characters.
I just wanted to point out more technical insight on the frieza fight, Frieza's main weakness even before Goku goes super saiyan is that he can't sense energy, and major points in the fight reflects that; Goku underwater blindsighting him with ki blasts, Goku surprising him with Kaioken, Goku charging the spirit bomb right over his head, and then again at the end when frieza becomes so distraught that he doesn't even keep track of the trajectory of his little pizza slicers. IMO this also blends in with his character/emotional shortcoming as well since Frieza's whole personality is that he thinks everybody else is insignificant, so of course he wouldn't care to feel their energy.
The notion of a super saiyan is also introduced early on with the fall of the Ginyu force. It becomes a huge character flaw as Vegeta shows desperation in trying defeat the tyrant that pinned him down all his life by clinging to a fairy tale of his dead race. The power up serves both an emotional and technical progression to the story of DBZ
bryal Not only that, it ties into themes of nature vs nurture in general, which were prevalent throughout the entirety of the previous Saiyan Saga. Goku defeats both Vegeta and Frieza who initially view him as inherently inferior through hard work. Goku utilizes his unique saiyan biology with both Zenkai boosts and super saiyan to become strong enough to actually challenge Frieza and the Ginyu force, proving to both that it was Saiyans who were inherently superior all along. Trash as Super is, people don’t give early DBZ enough credit for the amount of storytelling it packs into its fighting and training arcs...
That and frieza like vegeta was incredibly arrogant, being superior because it's his birthright their is nobody above him, here comes goku a sayain that trained his entire life fought multiple battles grew naturally the thought of "wait I can lose!?" Never crossed his mind, its just like bryal said nature vs nurture. Birthright vs. Hardwork
PLUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUS The Super Saiyan transformation had been foreshadowed by Vegeta's mentionings of the Super Saiyan legend beforehand... almost too much so.
18:25 Not only does Aizen stop Ichigo with a single finger, he also stopped his theme song. Aizen stopped the main character’s theme song. That is still an amazing moment.
Look, I avoided watching this video for quite a while. Bleach always had a special place in my heart. I didn't need anyone else telling me why I was "wrong" in enjoying something they considered an "inferior piece of media". Recently I came into contact with this channel again with the new Garfield video, and I loved it. And with the Bleach anime return now confirmed, I decided to man up and give this video a try. And I'm happy I did. I still love Bleach, and yet I fully support this video. I have a number of disagreements with quite a few points in it, but I can't say I don't understand your point of view. And to me, what really matters in the end is for us to be able to respect each others tastes and opinions, so I truly appreciate your position throughout the explanation. Needless to say, I'm now a fan of your work. Well done!
you might have realized this, but it's definitely not a good thing to misconstrew on opinion piece on a piece of media as dude telling you your opinions are invalid
@@moongirl-d9h What? He didn't. There is a whole section at the end of the video where he literally states that if after we listened to him, we still don't agree with him and still love the series, then all power to us. This is how he interpreted the story. I have my own interpretation, and it's wildly different from his. I just respect his opinion, just as I felt he respected mine. There are a lot of people spreading unfounded hate over this series, but I don't think Wolf is one of them. People need to stop this mindset of us vs them. It's like differing opinions can't coexist anymore.
@@lucasbrito7246 I think Pant was speaking to the introduction of your original comment where the original reason you avoided this video was because you were afraid of having your opinion contested (i.e. you made up your mind that this existing would somehow make your love of the series "wrong") It's a fair concern given how much bad faith opinions on the internet exist, but not something worth holding on tightly too. If ya really love something, criticism is a good thing so ultimately as another bleach fan, glad you ended up watching the video
>April fool's prank Nah, fanboys will find something wrong with this video too. And the next video will have to be at least twice as long to address everything. All according to Aizen's keikaku. Muahahaha.
Hueco Mundo being a bland, empty desert actually fits the ideal of Hollows very well, in my opinion. Hollows are souls who let their grief and regrets from life overwhelm them, and as such have become tormented beings, devoid of happiness. They are, literally and figuratively, hollow. So, all in all, it fits the theme like a glove.
@@doxxbot4737 what he's referring to is soft worldbuilding, the type of worldbuilding bleach uses. It's based more on the world reflecting the themes of the story, as apposed to hard world building which is based on logistics. It's also used by stories like Hunter x Hunter, Ghibli movies, and Harry Potter. Hard worldbuilding is used by stories like one piece, lord of the Rings, and AoT. Neither method is inherently better or worse than the other, they're simply 2 different methods of worldbuilding
@@afellownerd I’d say it did need a bit more concreteness in world building because as of right now, the little details seem to make little sense. For example, how can souls breed? Where are the resources in hueco mundo besides other hollows for ajunchas to eat? Why are captains that didn’t fight the quinces or other soul reapers so strong when their jobs are to kill hollows, of which all are extremely weak compared to them? Soft world building is fine but Kubo definitely would have benefitted from being more concrete with certain things.
"I have the power A: ANT. My strength is that of an ant, but scaled up to the size of a human!" "Hah! Fool! My blade is Tsuchibuta! The Aardvark! It eats ants for breakfast!"
@@WeyardWiz "Hah I know that you haven't eaten yet!! And I have a secret Ability which is that I can Decide when it is time for something or not! so now IT WILL NEVER BE TIME FOR BREAKFAST!!!!!"
Quick thing Huaca Mundo is meant to be like the hungry ghost realm in Buddhism it’s not exactly hell and it’s more about over attachment to material possessions and all you do there is eat but you’re always hungry (like how Hollows constantly devour each other)
after years of neglecting Bleach in the public eye, the new season for the last arc is incredibly exciting. it feels like actual time has passed in the story and we did not rush from one arc to the other
Not gonna lie this video definitely sold me on watching Bleach up until the end of Soul Society. I am very much down for a Shonen battle series that peaks hard with an excellent arc, possibly one of the best in the genre, early on and gives me a good stopping point after that. No need to keep up with it forever or for 100s of episodes just watch the first few or couple arcs and chill.
@@shanks6190 i recommend bleach until the last arc of the manga. But if you're interested on the anime 100%. But honestly man, don't let other's opinions tell you what you should and shouldn't enjoy and people who over criticize everything, like anime, probably don't enjoy a lot of things and are sore losers. Just enjoy and have fun watching anime
i gotta say, Aizen's illusions are so effective that they spread to the real world. First time watching this, as soon as i saw Aizen, i was like ok, this guy is definitely the villain, hes way too over the top nice, and his voice/cadence is laid on thicc. he has to be the secret villain. then bam, he's "dead". I then thought, oh hell, i was way off the mark. and when the reveal came that he was alive and was a villain, i was actually surprised, felt like a double fake out, and it was a masterpiece of villain reveals, nothing in any other anime comes close.
I really kept being sure he was of the bad guy. he whole Aizen evil / Ichimaru good was actually the one thing I saw coming from the second I saw their faces !
To be honest, if Kubo stuck with the fullbringer stuff and he took time to deepened his relationship with his friends and used different tokens or artifacts to channel his full bringer powers to be a more versatile and had to be more strategic it would've been so fantastic The battles would've been so unique, and not just with the Villians like the Quincy but with Ichigo too
I know this is an 8 month old comment, but I wanna add: This would also remove my main problem of the fullbringer arc: It being entirely abt revsersing the consequences of the previous arc.
@@EnjinSoseiI don't feel like it was only for that. It's also for the characterisation of the main characters as well (at the very least Ichigo, who plenty of people criticize as being a boring protagonist) and some explanations. It let's us see Ichigo at his very lowest where all his friends and family, his main driving force, are jeopardized and even turning against him. He's also shown to be depressed and empty because he feels like his main role in life (as someone with non-ambitious down-to-earth aspirations), to be a protector, has been taken away from him. His friends are more powerful than him now, so will he fall behind so far that they no longer need him? They hide information from him as to not burden him, but it just creates distance. As for explanations, we finally get to understand more about Chad and Orihime's powers. Personally, I think it would have been worse for the series if the fullbrings weren't explored. Like, "Of course his friends have powers, just because he's the protagonist." It grounds then a but more knowing that it's not a complete anomaly in-universe. Also, we get to see them do more than it felt like they did in the Arancar Arc. I feel like it's not meant to focus on the villains this time, rather refocus on the main group so that they're not lacking. Sure, everything could have ended with Aizen's fall and maybe this arc was simply a way to prolong the series artificially, but if Tite Kubo really did plan to have the TYBW arc earlier on, it serves its purpose well.
"You're even uglier than I expected" is the most heart-wrenching panel of any manga for me. I've been hurt by a lot from Shonen, but nothing beats having the one person who didn't care about your appearance (especially when you hate your own face) call you a monster.
My favourite page of any comic book I've ever read is Isshin smoking a cigarette in front of his wife's tomb and telling Ichigo that he smokes one every year in front of her because the only compliment his late wife ever told him is that he looked very handsome when he held a cigarette. I think the only driving force that got me to read Bleach way after I stopped enjoying it is to see if Kubo would ever call back this moment, but I guess it was more significant to me than him
The first arc of bleach (before the apparition of Byakuya and Renji) is the most meaningful arc to me. When it was small and very emotional with Scarry hollows. It was sad that Kubo didn't use the concept of hollows for developing the arrancars. Like in the first arc , it's explained that they're souls of people who didn't succeed to overcome their Grief after their death and becoming monsters.
Agreed, the first arc of bleach was something wacky, entertaining, and touching to me. Everything after was good, especially the soul society arc’s expert plot eyepatchwolf described, but I think it had lost its funk early on
"I think the only driving force that got me to read Bleach ... see if Kubo would ever call back this moment, but I *_guess it was more significant to me than him."_* I haven't read or watched Bleach nor have I ever heard of this scene prior to seeing your comment, but the last bit of the last sentence of your comment made me feel something.
@@concept5631 That particular scene wasn't adapted by the anime so most people don't even know about it, but it really stuck with me since the first time I read it when I was a kid. I couldn't tell you why it left this much of an impression on me but I really like to go back to those couple of pages and just stare at them for a while every now and then
Just FYI, pretty sure it's canon but Hueco Mundo isn't "basically Hell", the Bleach Universe has an *actual* hell. Hueco Mundo just houses tormented souls that are not allowed in Soul Society, due to obvious reasons, before they pass on into the cycle of reincarnation again. Remember, a lot of Hollow aren't evil creatures, most of them are normal souls that were twisted post-death before they moved on to Soul Society. Hell is punishment and has the souls that were removed from the cycle of reincarnation to suffer said punishment.
@@Ludo045 do you even know the meaning of generic? Anything become generic if it used many times. Naruto, bleach and one piece are not generic. But overuse of these concept create other anime into generic one. On the other hand, Death note, Full metal alchemist brotherhood, Monster, Fate Stay night are still the great shows even in these days because their concept are hard to copy because they are always very distinct and unique thematically.
As a major Bleach fan, thank you for correcting your previous video. I actually agree with a lot of your points; my friend is binging Bleach right now to get to the TYBW anime and it’s a slog. It’s actually TH-camrs like Mr. Tommo that have gotten me so deep into the lore of Bleach and all its characters that those storytelling pitfalls (that you masterfully categorized) just don’t matter that much to me. I enjoy the world of Bleach regardless, and the TYBW arc is really killing it right now. I definitely learned something from this video, so I appreciate that.
Its very interesting, he talked about repitition, as if it had a bad impact on the series. Grimjow & renji are hot headed, but unique. Nell transforming is different from Youruichi transforming. Not forgetting both transformation were sexy. Kubo possibly did that as a tease for us 😂. Kyoraku fighting 3 characters that uses guns. Its possible, Kubo just did those things to mess with the characters, and to be funny. Like hitsugaya, always getting Slash to his side 😂. Yamamooto always getting tricked into losing. Ichigo always getting manipulated by ( Aizen, Ginjo, Yuwach) 😂. These things dont affect Bleach in any way. The series is & will forever be Great. Dont forget, Naruto, Jiraya, & Obito are so so so so so so so different ? 😂. There team mates are so so so different 😂? Their rivals were all prodigies ( kakashi, orochimaru & sauske) 😂🤣?. These things dont affect the shows in any bad way. 👍
@Excaliber682 People *absolutely* talked about it in Naruto, my guy. People got so, so sick of the Generation Xerox trope, and the "He's just like me!"-ing of every villain became a meme in the fandom for a reason. If people don't like something, they generally don't like it whenever it comes up, so it is with repetitiveness.
@Excaliber682 The entire plot structure reused. You can try to break it down into its constituent parts of "Oh, he only repeated this tiny thing" but no, the story moves near enough the exact same way beat for beat. The only exceptions being in Hueco Mundo the female character gets to win a somewhat important fight (kind of) and Ichigo doesn't get slapped with a weekend training camp for his eleventh hour power up. Honestly, it's a little weird to see defenses of this particular thing. Because you've got half of people saying it's only superficial similarities and people are overstating it. Then you've got people saying that yes it's repetitive, because it's on purpose as a reflection of Soul Society as a "we're not that different" kind of thing. Thing is, it doesn't matter. Whichever way you want to justify it, you do you. If you still like it, like it! If you don't mind, more power to you! My issue comes in when people feel like to defend the thing they like, they have to attack the people who don't like it and essentially call them hypocrites. That ain't cool. We have different tastes and preferences and that's fine.
@Excaliber682 "It's not cool to attack anyone" in a comment filled with insults, prejudgements and condemnations for people who don't agree with you. My dude. Self-awareness. Please. Still, you do you. I told you what I found to be my problem with discourse here and you doubled and tripled down on it. It's cool. Ride that high horse all day long.
@Excaliber682 Directed at me? I didn't say an insult was directed at me. I said pretty specifically that you present a superior attitude toward people who don't like the thing you like and like to invent reasons why their opinions are wrong. And I'll just say this last thing about themes. Having a theme does not automatically equal good. It doesn't. For example, like it or not, Naruto did have a theme of hard work versus talent, but only for the Chunin Exam arc. They talk about it so very much in that arc. It's not as prevalent in the rest of the series, in fact it's directly undermined by later events, and you can say that's fine because the overall series wasn't about that one theme and it had moved on. But it was still part of the same work. The audience were primed to think about hard work versus talent and you can't unring that bell. That's one way to handle a theme poorly. They aren't disposable. Another way to handle a theme poorly. Make it so obtuse that nobody gets it unless they watch a youtube video from someone who cares about it way more than you do so they can explain it for you. Let me ask you something. When you first read/watched Bleach, did you get the thing about reflection that you didn't mention until I brought it up? Did you see Grimmjow, Ulquiorra, Szayelapporo, Neliel's transformation and realise "Oh! I see! How insightful, a direct counterpoint to the Soul Society, because they are in fact two sides of the same coin! What delightful narrative metaphor!" Gonna take a stab in the dark... And say you didn't. And that's not me calling you ignorant or looking down on you. I didn't see it either (and... there are good arguments that it's actually bollocks but let's not on that point). The reality is, the audience weren't primed to think of it in those terms. For someone to get your work, you have to make clear what you're trying to get across. If you don't do that, you're instead waiting for youtube muppets to comb over the series and hopefully find it. Assuming of course that they don't instead come up with some conspiratorial Matpat Game Theory nonsense instead. All well and good having a theme. But if your audience don't get it, you still screwed up. We can say what we want about how later Naruto undermined it, at least during the Chunin Exam arc people picked up what they were putting down.
Tiny mistake, but the part where they revealed the lieutenants and captains had a power limiter on them during Karakuro Town battles was explained way before that time. It was back when Ichigo fought Renji in Soul Society, as he explained this limitation to show why the fight was even despite Ichigo kicking Renji's ass in their first fight and only having gotten stronger since. Does not change the larger criticism or even in that case where it's "We're losing, but we get power up and then win".
It does considering 99% of what he mentioned has similar issues. Like Kenapchi using a sword with both hands is a deus ex machina now? Really? It's like saying that the guy that had his hand tied behinds his back deciding to untie it is a deus ex machina. But others too. We knew all high ranking soul reapers had Shikai and some Bankai. So claiming that them using those things we knew they had a high chance of having (hell most of the time we had the certainty) being a deus ex machina is so stupid. Or claiming deus ex machina when we see abilities from people's whose abilities we knew nothing about. Like Yoruichi's shunko (which she shows off after her opponent, who is explicitly her student also)
To be clear, the reason its called a star finger problem instead of a deus ex problem is because despite previous info, it's sudden and perfectly suited to grant someone the solution. Technically tons of Stands have multiple powers and we see with the prior Stands in that arc that thats true, so by those arguments star finger is equally not a "deus ex", but it is deeply unsatisfying.. The fact that the shikais, bankais and limiter releases are always perfect solutions to the problems presented is the issue, not that the lore doesn't hint that such a thing could exist.
@@note4note804 Except they don't? Like how is Shunko any perfect solution that punching harder isn't? And all powerups make you punch harder in Bleach. Same with most of the examples. Hell thee Kenpachi example is literally just cut harder, not even a power up
@@nahuel3433 I'm pretty sure it's just poor wording. You didn't get the point of his argument and just nitpicking. SEW talks about outsmarting your opponent and coming up with strategy, not pulling NEW AWESOME POWER out of your ass. Any idiot could do that. There's nothing special about it. Yes, obviously, we knew about shikais and bankais. But boy, isn't it convent that they can pull this off *the exact moment* they need it? What if Kenpachi *haven't* achieved his Bankai? Dead. Ichigo's training still didn't let him to reach the power level needed to defeat Aizen? Dead. What if Mayuri would be *serious* in his fight against Ishida? Pulling *stronger* Bankai or Nemu betting his ass like she did with God's Hand? Oh boy he was dead. I think SEW should have compared Bleach fights to Naruto ones. Yes they are obviously Bleach-like fights when Gaara's team arrives very conviently, just in time to save Konoha boys, or Choji eating dangerous pills to become stronger which were NEVER mentioned before, but let's look at good ones, for example, Naruto vs Neji. If Naruto turned into Nine-Tails Fox, would it be Deus Ex Machina? No, of course not. It was stated at the very first chapter, we know about this power. It could have been pretty cool if Naruto, pretty desperate to win, broke his seal and showed this arrogant asshole what real power tastes like. But I really liked what Kishimoto does in this battle- Naruto *outsmarts* his opponent using the same very technique any child knows about. This fight was never about he's more powerful, it always was about hard work *can* beat talent. It was about "if you're just lucky to be born with talent it doesn't mean you're better than everyone else". Do you see what I'm talking about?
@@nahuel3433 and we even get fun subversions later, like when Askin asks Urahara what his Bankai does and Urahara refuses to explain. Or even if we are talking about "power ups" his problem with the Aizen fight, that ignores a critical bit of information that we are given regarding Aizen's supposed reality warping powers. And that is that said power is about granting one's heart's desire. And that comes back both emotionally and thematically in Ichigo crushing Aizen. Aizen was always powerful, like Ken before him, too powerful to live in normal society. Unlike Ken who wanted to be weaker, Aizen wanted others to be strong. So he gets his real wish and only realizes it right at the end. "Someone else is stronger than me."
I really like this idea of "technical' and "emotional" narratives. Marrying those two things well is the hardest thing about storytelling. Anime obviously tends to focus more on the emotional side, but when you see those arcs that manage to nail something technical in the course of expressing its emotions, it's always the most impressive. Great video!
Similarly, this is also what differentiates good blockbusters from bad blockbusters in movies, and it's the reason why Marvel Studios and some DC movies have been doing so well compared to their weaker competitors (Sony, Fox): all companies can be and most of the times ARE tied when it comes to spectacle and big fights, aka "technical" narrative, because the techonlogy is there. But the public has become deeply invested in some of the emotional narratives within them, building a very solid fanbase for let's say Captain America and having no one give a fuck about the last few X-Men movies. A similar thing happens in the shonen genre. Anyone can hire the coolest animator and throw some Sakuga in their show, but emotional narrative and investment in it IS what ultimately makes or breaks the story and keeps people from dropping an action show or manga. The weaving of emotional narrative and character development into very popular action series like Kimetsu no Yaiba and My Hero Academia is a big part of what has made them stupidly popular, and the lack of it is what made Bleach fall.
I have a good agreement with you I think the perfect situation is when the writer cn strike the right balance this is one of my issues I had with MHA it focuses too heavily on the emotional part which can seem to me a cop out for lack of skills in the technical part
@@EnzoDraws Actually I disagree. You can have the most sappy, built up emotionally driven battle about to go down....but if its executed in a half assed way......what the hell was the point of all the build up? A lack luster fight...is a waste of time. And Ichigo vs Aizen in a technical way.....was lacking. Technicality, brings out the personalities of the characters in the conflict through the fighting style without words. How far they are willingly to go, what they learned, what they lack etc. All through actions. Each blow should have you nearly sweating and or crying....SOMETHING and it should be visually stunning. To say it shortly...you need balance. You cant have this boring ass fight that supposedly had so much emotion backing it up. And you cant have this well animated or choreographed fight for the fuck of it because it will just be....another fight.
34:40 Acctually, the fact that the Arrancar Arc was the best selling arc in the history of Bleach is reflective of a very common occurence in serialized media - stories/sequels that come AFTER the best parts of the story are the most popular, because so many people were talking/enjoying the story before. It also works the other way round - the LEAST popular instalments are those AFTER those that were actually the worst, because of how dissapointed people are. The quality of the laters stories is largely irrelevant, there's certain inertia to popularity.
Case in Point Star Wars. I don't care about your opinions on the quality of Last Jedi after the Last Jedi Solo Bombed and Rise of Skywalker struggled to crack a Billion. Way down from the 2 Billion The Force Awakens pulled.
@@sonicboomers122 Solo was really bad and it's marketing terribly done tough. And The Last Jedi made a lot less money than The Force Awakens too ("only" 1 billon 300 millions, which is way less that the 2 millions of The Force Awakens), a lot of people were already disappointed by The Force Awaken. No matter if you think of it as better or less good than The Last Jedi, it's still miles away from the original trilogy, or even the prequels. Also Rise Of The Skywalker was terrible, I think we can all agree on that.
That makes sense. I remember my last favorite Bleach moment was Byakuya’s backstory stuff, and then the arrancars came and I don’t really care for any of those characters and the story got very bogged down.
This is also common with sequels. If a game or movie is really good and becomes popular, the sequel usually does REALLY well. In the other hand, if a game or movie is garbage, it's usually the sequel to that garbage that pays the price. Even when said sequel is much better than the original.
You're kinda right, but in Bleach's case, no. There's a reasonable romanticism with the Soul Society arc but manga volumes aren't sold in one go like movies. The Arrancar Arc was the most popular arc because it was the most well-received one. People act like Bleach went downhill after Soul Society only in retrospect due to their dissatisfaction with the resolution of Aizen's defeat. The arc itself was fine.
As a spanish speaker, expecting "HUECO MUNDO" to be anything other than empty space is hilarious to me. I actually adore how it looks and how it fits the themes of Hollows' empty heart. Also, Gentei Kaijo never felt like an asspull/Deus Ex to me. We are informed of the Shinigami nerf on Earth back at Soul Society during the Renji fight. It was more of a "OH SHIT THAT'S RIGHT I FORGOT" moment that anything else. Other than that, I agree with most criticisms. Great video!
The Sealed King of The 3 Kings of Shonen Anime. Hidden in the shadows since its last airing in 2012. In 10 years it shall recover its fanbase. In the 10th month it shall recover its story. On the 10th day it shall recover its animation. And over its runtime, it shall recover the world.
@@kryoruleroftheninthcircleo4151 i can see that. The setting of Hueco Mundo is all Grey and desert like, but not complete bullshit and hell. Hollows are forever doomed to climb the hierarchy, but there's no genuine punishment. As implied by the name, its literally just a hollow world
@@victorsantos4531 have you rea d bleach manga? A beast realm is mentioned more than a time, Man people are actually biased about bleach, I do agree with some of his points about background, plot hole, power scaling but this man directly states that bleach is bad so people buyed 120 million volum e of bad manga? Bleach is good bro, not best Hxh, jojo, code geass, fma, attack on titan. Demon slayer has very simple story yet eyepatch does not make a video on it bleach fans are very unsupportive overall and complai n when a character dies and doesnt, when kubo create a character development arc and when he create action packed arc, Its easy to attack bleach fans, Yes it has flaws but it is not baD Natuto is not bad because of just its war arc
@@kakashihatake6052 I've read Bleach manga over 50 times. Again, being OBJECTIVE, Bleach is a good written manga with flaws I never sad I think Bleach is bad and I don1t have bias about it. And Naruto is bad cause of the whole history and plotholes, lack of planning, lack of development, not just the awar arc as you said. And his point about Background, plot hole and power scalling are some of the worst nes, specially the background one! The guy's saying a literal art technique of enhancing character expressions is bad just cause he doenst' lke it! Bleach has basically no plotholes also. And man, I support Bleach! I hate the free hate ad bias eople have about it. I'm just saying, its a good written manga, it's better written than Naruto even
عنده الستايل الخاص به كما أنت عندك الستايل الخاص بك و الي أتمنى انه يظل يتحسن و تبقى في تطور لتصل لما هو أفضل مما أنت عليه الأن وتصبح أنت أيضا تملك سحر خاص في طرح الأفكار
Also a bit dissepointed that Shingi couldn't even fight on par with his former Lieutenant after those years with knowing the power type Aizen has. Outside the building when Urahara became a Captain he even undid the camouflage of Aizen with ease.
Urahara had a whole mini arc in Turn Back The Pendulum. Still not enough, but it explains his backstory. Dude still lives to protect humanity against the Hollows, but likely hasn't fully forgiven Soul Society for their betrayal.
Based on the Bleach anime returning with the Thousand Year Blood War and sales for the manga having only increased since its conclusion, I think it's safe to say that, warts and all, people still love Bleach. I imagine that since its been six years since the ending came out, fans have had the time to reflect on the series as a whole; finding reasons to reappraise some aspects previously dismissed, to appreciate Bleach's strengths all the more and to remind themselves why the series made such an impact on them.
@@FallenDemonFly Hell was already introduced in the Bleach manga in the earlier chapters. In one instance a hollow named shrieker was dragged into hell because he can't be purified. It was eyepatch wolf who completely got it wrong. It was stated again and again that hell is different to hueco mundo. Just shows how much he paid attention. If he didn't remember this huge detail, how can anyone take him seriously regarding anything bleach? It's as if he didn't even care.
@@darshaksanyal4755 most of what he said still made sense. He probably scrubbed of Hell because as far as canon goes it isn't mentioned as much and he took it as an outlier (like that one time Rukia said SPECIAL GUARD FORCES were required to defeat Gillians but now we know that they're pretty much fodder). Also I don't think Hell is mentioned in the last arc as one of the realms Yhwach was going to collapse which makes it even more sus and doubt its genuinity. Keep in mind this is waaaay before the NEW BREATHS OF HELL is published.
In Kenpachi's defense, "Swinging a sword with two hands" wasn't a new technique. He's just lazy and personally opposed to doing it. Watching Nnoitora have to react to being told completely deadpan: "Hey btw, did you know swords hit harder if you swing with two hands?" is comedy gold, thanks.
I think on it's own that's fine. Like it's a pretty good joke. But in a larger context of something being presented as immediately the exact answer to the problem at hand it kind of dulls the joke ya know.
@@anenemystand5582 t was not like "Immediately the exact answer", Zraki simply thought "Well, if I use both hand, I'll swing harder, let's see if it does the job" and it happened to do the job. And again, it was already established Zaraki always undermines his powers to the leve of his opponents, so him being able to one shot guys, is just his normal state of being. It was not the immediate solution, cause he was hurting Nnoitra with other hits, he just developed and won the battle
@@anenemystand5582 Nope. It happened to be. If it was the immediate answer, it would've been presented as "Oh yeah, I just have to use both hands, you'll die now". Zaraki was testing and it happened to be the immediate answer, it doesn't mean it was, as f it was presented as, or the immediate solution. And again, taking out of context and looking it as "A simple power boost" can be done in any series, if you ignore the background of things and only look at the bass of what happened
Ultimately Kubo is a brilliant artist. I love every single one of his designs. He needs a writer to flesh out a narrative so he can focus on drawing cool shit.
Honestly as a writer, I dont think he is even bad. His arcs and characters (especially early on) have a natural flow and relationship chart that feels more like One Piece where characters have intimate and intertwined stories with one another. And I literally just wrote a villain who is basically a recontexualization of Aizen. And I will say it, Bankai is honestly the best ‘evolution’ of a power system that feels even more natural then Sacred Energy (YYH), Awakening (One Piece), Super Sayain (DBZ) and Reincarnated God Jesus (Naruto) His only fault I think his that he is so creative with characters that he just...makes too god damn many. Somehow, the Soul Society seems to have less screen time then the Real World and that is just a big old boo for me (why make a magical heaven, hell and royal palace not develop it?) Well that one is more general, but the point is some characters in all these locations are only seen sometimes, with Captains being the main focus. (Lieutenants seem to lose prominence unless your name is Renji Abarai). Arrancar are killed off and we don’t care about Fullbringers. Then he made another power system (Kido), then another one (Arrancars), then another (I gave up after trying to figure out Quincies ngl) I sort of think this sort of bloat just blatantly reads as building without going deeper and deeper into the foundation. Honestly I would have been happy with just the Quincies taking Bankai and not having their own abilities to show how very, very serious the arc could be. And I mean that for ALL Bankai users. I dont know, I havent written a multi million dollar franchise so maybe I am full of shit. Tldr: He is not a bad writer, he has a lot of good promise with the social side of story telling, his technical side needs some work and his worldbuilding is...hit or miss. Take my opinion with a grain of salt, I basically am part of Aizen’s plan because even I had to make my own Aizen.
@@twenty-fifth420 Interesting Take, I agree as well.. to sum up what you're saying even further.. Kubo is a good writer but he made too many good things to juggle.
Probably an unpopular opinion but i loved the full bring arc. felt super refreshing, and i actually wouldnt have minded a spinoff series focusing on fullbring as the combat mechanic with a new cast in another part of the world.
@@dolo6475 I gave up watching about two episodes after they switched dimensions from the real world. Wasn't my kind of story at the time I guess. So I think I got spoiled the most, but can't not watch a SuperEyePatchWolf video...
Bleach won't make a redeeming comeback. I get that the diehard fans are happy but the series has so many issues that not even a complete reboot could fix it. Would I watch it? Heck yeah I would if it's well made. But the series has huge issues. I think people should just move on and enjoy the good moments it had
@@yiangaruga4928 same honestly, i just want the series to shut me up and be good, fuck i loved bleach, loved urahara, then he got his bankai and he just stalled until grimjoe and nel showed up cause... fanservice i guess, and finish him up, its just painfull to watch the series if you like the characters that get screwed
@@lureyourpery5569 I think you misunderstood what he's saying. The problem he had with it is the same problem he had with the soul society it underdeveloped.
@@stephonmanny7555 And somewhat forgotten once they get "inside". I mean, sure, it made for a different visuals and all, but eventually it does not even matter since they fight inside or on top of roofs. It does make drawing backgrounds much easier though, so props for coming up with a visual style that helps you cut down on the details. I am saying this unironically. I really think it is brilliant in that sense.
@@fendelphi Nothing wrong with being simple. It just plain and for me a bit disappointing. I mean if he wanted it to look like old school Japan that find; I mean it worked with other shows. What I'm saying is the world building isn't strong. Think about it like this if we brought magic like in Bleach to our world it would change everything.
How has it been almost two years since I first watched this? I swear your videos always come out around big moments in my life so coming back and watching them again years later make me realize how far I, your channel, and the world has come in these years.
Bro what?? Lmao he doesn’t need to do that. Isn’t there another shinigami who does that anyway? I can’t think of his name but I know there’s another guy who does that already
@@Jon155mt because it would be sick. When white uses it that way it's one of the coolest internal moments, and the show at least (I haven't read the manga) makes a big show of pointing that out and it just goes nowhere.
I have many problems with Bleach. But the art was never one of it. Tite Kubo has created some of the most memorable character designs of all time (if you ignore the overabundance of mammary organs...).
@Maestro Flo I haven’t read the manga but the two biggest problems are the arc structure and lore. As much as I like the Bleach lore it does get boring, that’s just me tho. The arc structure is horrible, every time an arc ends the universe just goes back to normal. Of course the Art of the Shinagami arc and the Soul Society: The Sneak Entry arc are great but after that the story has layers of plot armor and is just repetitive. After finishing the anime and the movies including filler I read the 1,000 Year Blood War arc and it was just as good as the first two arcs. I still love Bleach with my heart and soul, I love the character designs I love Ichigo and Aizen also btw the main cast gets really stale and the piccolo affect literally happens to everyone except Ichigo. I imagine by this comment you’re a Bleach fan boy like me but just except every story has flaws, you may think these critics are stupid and I respect that but don’t say it’s hated on for no reason that’s just ignorant. TLDR; As much as I love Bleach, watch the anime and the filler, watched the movies and read the 1,000 Year Blood War arc it’s not perfect, every story has flaws you may think that it has different flaws than I said, but it still has flaws so no it’s not hated on for no reason
@@planatano_ I don't know if you're talking about the story but you're wrong there is still a mystery that it is about the universe on the characters for example Ichigo "arc end universe goes to back to normal " ok and ? There is not a problem Repetitive ? there are other shonen where it is repetitive and yet no one says anything
@Maestro Flo I just told you that we have different opinions on the flaws of the story. You were crying about people hating on it for no reason I just told you why some people have problems with it you may not agree with me but the story has problems just accept that.
Ichigo was one of my favorite cosplays I ever did. I remember going to an an anime con right after I had discovered Bleach, and I was so enthralled with it that I skipped Saturday completely to watch it my hotel room. I will never not love it.
A big issue I had with Bleach despite it being such an influential anime in my life is that the souls society arc brings up a lot of criticism of how the soul society is run and there are hints of more issues with the soul society in later arcs but it doesn’t use these criticisms and issues to evolve the world of Bleach. Kubo had so much potential in the setting that he didn’t utilize.
Cause the development of Soul Society was not important for the series. And again, a big part of it, was cause Aizen was controlling and manipulating them to be more punitive. We saw Soul Society cruel, Ichigo came, they changed a little, and we still have the Novel who explore Soul Society more. People today get so hung up on worldbuilding and Character development, but not always you need a world to be fully explored if it makes sense, and f the narrativa can hold up without exploring every inch of the world
Yea soul society is so weird to me. I think it wasn't planned enough honestly.burn the witch explains the setting a little more but like now im confused about reverse London 😐 (dosent mean I want them to crossover)
@@nancy-xm2ig Reverse londom will have it's time to shine since the series will contie. And yeah, in the end, Soul Society left some questions unanswered like, why people still got to be poor as fuck even afterlife? And, if people go there with no memories of life, how could Rukia could lie to the parrot kid about him seeing his mother? haha But, I think Soul Society worked well as the proper background and what was explored of it was good enough
@@vcamv2354 the problem kubo potrayed was that soul society was only able to be manipulated because nobody questioned the system and aizen merely took advantage of it, it goes much deeper than that
I wished they kept Aizen with his old hairstyle and glasses from Soul Society. He's infinitely more scary to me as some dude who constantly plays up the nice and comforting dad role, even when he's with his army of literal demon monstrosities.
30:32 The fact that captain's and liuetenants have their power limited when they travel to the real world was actually set up during the Ichigo vs. Renji fight. It was a single throwaway line, so I understand how it was easily forgotten when it's demonstrated nearly 120 chapters later.
I mean it's a breadcrumb Kubo planted and it shows he pays attention to his own story and is(most of the time) careful of what he writes(outside of some earlier stuff, for example when Rukia says the royal guard struggles with the menos grande). But it does show that Eyepatch Wolf doesn't really get his video fact-checked or do any proper proofreading to make sure he doesn't make blunders like these.
Hueco Mundo isn't Hell. There's an actual Hell that's never seen in the BLEACH manga. It's more like purgatory so all the sand and desert make sense. Agreed. The Espadas deserved more character development because they each represent a reason a person dies. Barragan was time, Stark was loneliness, Harribel was sacrifice, etc.
Yo man. We don't talk about that movie. Ever. >.> it was a special film with special thoughts and ideas. We's jes gon` throw it in the cabin with everything else with special ideas.
@@DeusExIra what movie? If you mean hell verse it has nothing to do with the comment as hell was literally confirmed to exist in the subsitute arc years before hell verse existed.
jake sexton Yeah, this. I had actually forgotten that myself, but I started a rewatch of the series in anticipation of the anime returning recently, and came upon the episode where the Hollow that was a serial killer in life gets pulled into Hell after Ichigo beats him.
I've always liked the big 3 equally, thats why I always get sad when Bleach gets the shit end of the stick most of the time. Kubo, Oda, and Kishimoto were inspired by different aspects of Toriyama's DBZ and decided to not only make their own story, but completely reshape the Manga industry into what we call the Modern Era. They all defined an entire generation of people. Regardless of the art, story or characterization, most of us stuck through to the end.
Even being a mediocre manga artist/writer requires a lot of talent, because you need to be really good at both drawing and writing, and hard working enough to do that week after week for years
Yes, Eyepatch also doesn't mentions those little details. The way the characters are named, and then presented is so top notch. And this anime is in my opinion the only one with most character of color and with most prominent roles. I guess nobody really notices that stuff right away until you are told. Also, lots of female empowerment in Bleach. Which also means waifu material lol.
@@mazimadu But Charlie's angel and Brids of Prey are pretty popular? Or atleast the characters are with their respeective audience. Their audience just word it differently instead of calling them waifu or something cringy to them haha. Most female characters were empowered and were holding major plot points in Bleach as well. Even if the damsel in distress trope was also used.
I think the reason some people dont enjoy Bleach that much is because most of the increases in power and training is more about the characters having self discovery and acceptance, not so much about "Heres a technique, heres how to learn it." Every time Ichigo becomes more powerful he is letting go of fear, gaining resolve, overcoming trauma, and later on learning the true nature of his heritage and accepting himself. Each time he further accepts himself, the more power he can tap into.
That isn’t very clearly explained throughout it’s hidden and surreal brief imagery that has little time and even less context. While interesting as a method of powering up and if done in a more clear or even coherent way the critical depiction of it in this video would be less justified. When you have to rely on TH-camrs or have a masters degree in Bleach World Studies to explain how the power system makes sense actually it might aswell not make sense for the average viewer. If this powering up had any impact on his fighting style, a new strategy or on how he used this new poet in contrasted to his pre-existing powers these more abstract powering ups would have felt less like Deus ex machina. Ichigo while going through a lot of emotional growth fails to demonstrate that through his fighting style past just being “stronger due to a new power available to him”.
@domainhami5253 OMG. Did you not know that soul reapers need to communicate with their zanpakuto's. Bleach is very deep. Eye Patch wolf is mostly pointing out things he didnt like, but none of those things makes bleach bad.
@@lucascurio8345 I'd argue that anyone that isnt an anime only would notice these if they're actually reading the manga via the volumes, not just chapters online. Kubo puts poems at the start of basically every chapter to emphasize the importance of what happens in that chapter, most of which are directly correlating to bankai, shikai, ressurection, or Völlstandig, holy form, segunda etapa, etc. They're meant to be emotional moments, not just physical ones. Kubo puts in the effort to get the message across, you just need to be able to see it.
As someone who loves Bleach I disagree. While the nature of power ups isn’t for everyone, it doesn’t exactly feel like that’s the sole or even primary reason. In my experience with Bleach I always felt that the power ups as genuine character milestones were super hit or miss. After their respective arcs Ichigo never touches Hollow Mask or Fullbring again, as if those powers were seasonal events in an MMO. So the only change that “sticks” in those instances is his power level, as if he’s shoved those parts of himself back into the proverbial closet. It would be like post SSJ Goku going back to using only Kaioken after coming to terms with his Saiyan heritage. The only powerups that I think truly stuck were his initial Bankai and his True Shikai. And Ichigo is on the better side of things. Characters like Chad and Orihime just get powers (the latter getting one of the most absurd hax) with barely an explanation, only for Kubo to just not let them do anything. I still love Bleach for the astronomical highs it can reach, but I can’t be one of those people who go “you’re not cultured enough to understand Bleach” that the internet always joke about.
@@ranadapolite4599 the magical cup was another movie, the face-melting was due to the Nazis opening the Ark of the Covenant-i.e. God's nuke from the Bible.
I watched Bleach because of this video. It’s glaring flaws are apparent, and it really does need work. But, damn I had fun watching it. So, I think it worked out in the end.
@@jcstitches4671 They're not changing studios,Pierrot is still working on it with the addition of MADHOUSE. So Bleach is in good hands, just waiting for that trailer to drop.
@randomer1432 ????? It's literally the kanji for "complete" in Japan, and holds significance in basically every Buddhist culture. Japan is one of the most intensely Buddhist cultures in the world. Plus, if you really want to keep parroting your Nazi trend, why choose an ancient symbol of peace that's been around for thousands of years? Why not the literal Nazi in the Bleach plot, the Quincies, who wear uniforms and are obviously a militaristic trope of Nazism?
@@dr4gonbl4z3r yup, you are right. Some people just jump on the political bandwagon and see dog whistle everywhere. If Ichigo made the OK hand gesture or was allied with a frog instead of a cat, this guy would be getting worked up over that. Some people even think Hitler designed the symbol instead of finding it in a eastern trip. The same people yapping about cultural appropriation don't know that this symbol existed in another culture and was re-purposed with minor changes.
What confuses me most about where Bleach went is how it starts out being so much about the dangers of unjust hierarchies, exemplified in the Soul Society arc by a focal villain so blinded by his devotion to "duty" that he kills indiscriminately to _make sure_ his beloved sister gets executed for a ridiculous non-crime, and an organization so morally bankrupt it employs a sadistic murder clown to torture people to death for the crime of defending themselves against literal monsters. And then they just. Become good guys? As soon as the tyrannical regime goes back on the one thing that made the protagonists angry in the first place, the tyrants get to become supporting heroes. And the goal of every villain from then on is to destroy Soul Society, which the protagonists are now prepared to defend with their lives despite the fact that ABSOLUTELY NOTHING HAS CHANGED to make it anything but a genocidal military dictatorship. They even keep bringing up the atrocities the Soul Reapers have _and continue to_ engage in, but for some reason we're just supposed to accept it now? The series should have ended with Soul Society burnt to the fucking ground and something better rising from the ashes, not a glitzy "look how far they've come~" wide shot of a ruling council that still includes KUROTSUCHI FUCKING MAYURI
It IS important to remember that the Soul Society didn't just represent a flawed system. It was a society that committed moral and interpersonal injustices for the sake of the greater good. While they were presented as antagonists for the purpose of the arc, and overall the story did push the narrative that moral justice couldn't just be abandoned for the sake of the greater good, they were still ultimately protecting the world by maintaining the imbalance of souls and preventing hollows from devouring humans en masse. I haven't dug into the entire story in a while, but if I recall correctly, there are points later on when it is implied that the Soul Society has loosened up on its immoral rules, and this is definitely reflected in the growth of a lot of the early captains we're introduced to. Mayuri is actually a good example, since by the time you reach the final arc, he's doing some of the most good out of the cast (saving Kenpachi and the others from Squad 11, reviving the literal dead, showing more compassion towards Nemu.) You see this in other characters like Soifon and her softening attitude over the course of the story, Byakuya in his growing compassion towards Rukia and when he actually claims he's taking Zommari down for the sake of personal justice (protecting Rukia) rather than legal obligation - not to mention when he literally begs Ichigo, the result of something that was previously considered a grave crime by his organisation, to save the Soul Society in his stead. Even the Central 46 seem to get phased out of authority once Shunsui takes over as captain commander and pretty much explicitly acts against them in training Kenpachi.
@@flatsnark2516 but that's even worse. Framing such a fundamentally evil organization as merely flawed, forced to do awful things "for the greater good" - that's how people actually justify real-world atrocities. Mayuri is again the perfect example. As you say, he does some good things during the Thousand Year Blood War, but he also wholesale slaughters 28000 innocent Rukongai denizens to "maintain balance", which he gets pushback over but doesn't ultimately suffer any consequences for. So either we're stanning an organization where the unnecessary mass murder of tens of thousands is a slap-on-the-wrist kind of offense, or Kubo Tite has bent himself backwards to create a situation where the mass murder of tens of thousands is necessary and morally justified, neither of which reflects particularly well on the series. (Also, acknowledging that he "does good" kind of requires us to once again assume that "good" is synonymous with "defending Soul Society", which uh I don't really agree with)
well L is in his name what a super genius, this was all going according to his plan that he instigated right from the start where he secretly planted L in his name as a reference to deathnote's L, hinting at his master plan, how could we not have noticed that this was the true intended meaning behind his name all along and was clearly planned form the very beginning
Despite it's problems, it was the series that got me into anime and writing, so it will always have a place in my heart. For me it ended when Ichigo lost his power. And I really, REALLY liked Urahara. I was so happy when he became the protagonist of a few episodes. Seeing my favorite character getting the spotlight for a short while is an experience I'll never forget.
One note on sales figures as a sign of quality: It is rare that a series' sales/viewership will decline after a single bad story arc or poorly received plot development, especially if it has been going for a long time. Most series are inconsistent in their quality, after all, and so there are always plenty of people willing to ride out a bad/disappointing arc to see if things get better. Instead, the substantial decline in sales tends to begin sometime after, when people begin to realize the earlier bad arc was not an anomaly and that the quality is unlikely to return to its original highs. In other words, sales of a long-running series represent not a decline in quality, but a decline in the fans' faith that things will improve. When people run out of faith in the series, they decide to put their money, time and emotional energy elsewhere.
I think this is accurate, but ultimately when it comes to Bleach, people wanted to see the end of Aizen, and once they got that there wasn't much need to continue reading. Hueco Mundo was mindnumbing, but the real problem with Bleach's structure is that Kubo wrote an ending and then tried to keep going after it.
This is straight up untrue. Wanna know why? Literally every series, even those viewed as the greatest ones ever have a peak, and then slowly have their sales dwindle down. It happened with Bleach, with Haikyuu pbs.twimg.com/media/D4W4zKzUwAEntoA.png it's happening right now with MHA, i.redd.it/vdw8mtwyrzw41.png happened with Gintama pbs.twimg.com/media/DpKMzkGV4AI0ZK5.jpg Black Clover external-preview.redd.it/S37u7JPTsTaCjjyCZbtOvysfIEOsi9hrpGc-lFeVzlk.jpg?auto=webp&s=dcf35dc030b5ca4d618d4f5000733fda90aa7f6b You name it. That's just the natural cycle of a manga. And hell even at it's worst Bleach was only 6 thousand sales below the best Gintama volume. Currently MHA is only 7 thousand above the worst of Bleach, and as long as the series keeps going, chances are the numbers will drop more. This without taking into consideration that Bleach is way longer than most of the series I linked here and therefore the trend of some people dropping out before the next volume was way longer compared to others That's just how the natural cycle goes .
@@revlarmilion9574 Lots of manga wind up going long after the ending that was originally planned for them, especially when you're talking about serialized shounen manga. The problem is Kubo never gave Bleach the foundation it needed to keep going after that original ending point. To do that, it would've needed at least one of three things: 1) A strongly motivated central character who can push the story forward on the strength of his personal drive. 2) A richly detailed world that new conflicts can naturally emerge from, even once all current conflicts are settled. 3) A willingness to explore the natural consequences of previously established events. Unfortunately, Ichigo is a largely reactive character with little internal motivation, who doesn't concern himself with things like protecting others or getting stronger unless there's an active ongoing threat (and, sadly, none of the other characters were strong enough on their own to assume the protagonist mantle for him). The world was also not very well defined, so there wasn't much for a new threat to naturally emerge from. And Kubo only decided to go to the Quincy well after an entire arc that ultimately went nowhere. Honestly, if I were Kubo, I'd have pulled a Jojo and just done a completely different protagonist after Ichigo beat Aizen. Let him have his victory, and focus on something else without the weight of Ichigo's non-character bogging the story down. But, obviously, that didn't happen.
A piece of my childhood that I ll always fondly remember, especially the soul society arc, that feeling when your whole world was expanded for the 1st time, when everything turned from something lighthearted to despair and sacrifice. This arc was what bleach meant to me and no matter how shitty it became, I will always love it
I think the arrancar, hueco mundo and Fake Karakura still retained the quality of the SS arc, I have some nitpicks here and there, but I don't think it got shitty
@@cosmicflower5891 forget it buddy, all these emo nostalgic dudes act all as if bleach fell off after soul society or should have ended after arrancar arc, they can't even understand what kubo wanted for the series and can't even appreciate the character developpements they have been throughout the series for characters.
One thing I did like in the Fullbringer arc was the psychological warfare Tsukishima inflicted upon a de-powered Ichigo by somewhat, but not fully, turning Ichigo's loved ones against him. To them, Ichigo is a loved one who has snapped (possibly from the combination of the stress of his previous battles, loss of power/connection to the spirit world, and perhaps graduation from high school and all the problems that entails) and is lashing out against another trusted friend/family member. Tsukishima took the very reason Ichigo fought which was to protect his loved ones and somewhat turned that against him and (at least for a while) it feels like this isn't a problem Ichigo could solve with sheer power. It didn't last very long, but it was interesting for a minute. This arc also cemented the sheer uselessness of Chad and Orihime for me. I really wished they would have a moment like Byakuya where their relationship with Ichigo ends up winning out over the effects of Book of the End, but nope they're just unwitting pawns of Tsukishima and then they get knocked out when the actual reinforcements arrive. I don't have anything else to say, this video was great and I hope it reaches heights further than the old one. It's always hard to own up to one's mistakes, but it is totally necessary if we hope to grow as people.
I totally agree. That point in the series was actually really compelling and for the first time in years I thought that Kubo might be able to turn the series around and make it interesting again. To learn that it was the series lowpoint in popularity is really depressing and recontextualises the utterly lazy way the popular soul society characters show up in the end of the arc to pose stoically and destroy the Fullbringers. Kubo was just giving the remaining fans of Bleach what they wanted and what they wanted was absolute shit.
Yeah, totally agree, I feel like the Full Bringer Arc is also the best looking Bleach has ever been, the direction of some of the scenes (like tsukishima taking over Ichigos family) is incredible.
In my opinion the Fullbring arc could have had Ichigo's sister as the hero, with Ichigo taken more of a mentor role. Giving him more responsibility as an adult and giving him a new perspective on his role leading forward. He could still get his powers back in the end(since the arc and getting powers back are not connected), but now with a new perspective and sense of responsibility.
And hes lying now. There are a lot of mistakes in this video and some bad arguments to support the narrator bias. Maybe there were honest mistakes or maybe they were used to trigger people to comment ;)
@@nocap7885 Like "forgetting" that the shinigami had those power seals imposed when they come to the real world, telling that the hueco mundo is a bad copy of the soul society when is an inverted mirror of that arc and its clear that was made on purpose. And Hueco mundo isnt hell. Nipicking that people dont know the names of trash mobs, really?! or that zaraki used its two hands to swing a sword!? Telling that there is no char development on hueco mundo, did he expected that all shinigami had personal relations with hollows? And then forgetting the most impactful one rukia vs aarionero. Pointing Ichigos problematic swastika when he pretend that doesn't know that is the a symbol in a lot of asian religions . This videos points a lot of problems with bleach that i agree on, but lots of others i just cant understand. He even messed up the Indiana Jones reference. Dont tell me that was a honest mistake...
@kronozord Kenpachi using "two hands" was a prime example of Kubo drawing out the length of a fight because he didn't know how to make almost all of the fights in Bleach interesting. The characters sandbag until the final moment of the fight, there's literally no mind-games or as SEW puts it, Bleach has a weak "technical narrative". Just people doing increasingly powerful attacks at each other Some examples of battle-shonen with strong technical narratives are; Hunter x Hunter, early Naruto, One Piece, Hajime no Ippo, JoJo, etc
I think one of the issue with manga is how much pressure magazine put on their artist, making them release a 18 page chapter a week. If you ever had a shonen jump in your hand you understand the appeal of full tome has not finish, inking is missing and background not fully developed are in Jump. So on top of creating a story at a crazy pace they have to redo some of their work. That’s plus the fact that the magazine might force you to continue working on a project, due to the marketing appeal and merchandising of said série that you don’t care for anymore are massive clue why and how some of our favourite série go downhill. I’ll say that WEBTOON might be healthier for their author but you still see the over exhaustion of some artist on those project. It’s sad but to see overwhelming talent and artist exploited to this extend and I think that’s should be one of your video.
This! I can't even imagine the pressure of having to conceptualize and craft a story with these insane deadlines. I would love an insider's look into this whole issue!
This is probably why a lot of manga authors are moving toward writing seinen instead of shonen since the deadline for seinen is far more loose than the constant week after week rhythm of shonen jump.
Somehow Tite Kubo got the privilege for his newest work, Burn the Witch. He finished it last year, only published it this year. On top of that, a movie adaptation based on his work already been made within that 1 year break. Now, he gets a greenlit to continue his manga on his own pace. It's pretty much a seasonal manga that no one ever done before.
@@antimatter3084 ? There are weekly seinen series as well. There are also shonen series that only release once a month and in some magazines once every three months. The only difference between seinen and shonen is the target audience.
33:14 The show makes it clear that ichigo actively dislikes the hollow within him at this point and makes sure he doesn't interfere with any of his battles or takes over entirely like vs ulquiorra, he makes the choice of not wanting to fight with the brutality of white because of that
49:57 It's all fun and games, but if you eventually DO make a, "Fall of Bleach: 8 Years Later", video, then BOY....You 'gon have a lot of explaining to do!
A cool work around of why the soul society is basically feudal japan is because each culture has their own soul society. The fullbringer arch couldve been reworked as another culture attempting to recruit Ichigo as a soldier after seeing how powerful he could become in order to launch a war against other soul societies...or something along those lines.
The thing is, this is explained kind of in burn the witch. In that manga its explained they work for the soul society west branch which is in London. So the way I see it is; the reason why soul society in bleach is feudal japan is because that's where japanese souls go. If you died somewhere else you would go to a different soul society
@@percussionfellow6168 Think of Aizen as Hitler or Genghis Khan then. If Aizen took control or made his own Soul Society or whatever, then he could go and wage war on other Soul Societies and take them over and end up becoming the king of all Soul Societies
They basically explain it perfectly just by being rigid in their rules They may have had a few see some stuff in the world of the living throughout the years Renji likes bikes And some like sweets and so on But the soul society basically stagnates so much you could NEVER get them to change for a single person before Ichigo But also it just works Also the world is basically earth sized or bigger So don't feel like Aizen is small time His ideals would of collapsed reality lol
I have to defend the Nnoitra reveal. Partly because at this point it's well established that Kenpachi intentionally handicaps himself to match his opponents, but mostly because his heretofore unmentioned Super Secret Special Forbidden Technique just being "holding the damn sword properly" is _very_ funny.
It is honestly one of my favourite moments in the series. Causing a nuclear explosion with a swing because you bothered to hold your sword properly is such a Kenpachi thing to do.
Moreover Bleach doesn't have a good power system, so its not like Kenpachi is a perfect counter to Nnoitra or something, he just moves faster because eyepatch hurr durr two hands now durr hurr
36:20 The wackest thing is, the Ichigo vs Aizen fight does have a narrative behind it, it's just that the narrative is thrown away for Final Getsugatenshou. (SPOILERS AHEAD) In this arc, there's a massive bombshell twist that Aizen drops on Ichigo; he's the reason behind Ichigo's rise to power. Aizen brags that the ever-increasing difficulty of his fights was due to Aizen deliberately setting up each successive fight to intentionally grow Ichigo's power. That EVERYTHING Ichigo has done, from encountering Rukia, to becoming a soul reaper, to invading the soul society, was essentially all part of Aizen's 12D chess game (or at least within his calculations). In the Thousand-Year Blood War it's revealed (SPOILERS AGAIN) that Ichigo's parents met due to an encounter with Aizen's pet hollow, White, so there's even an argument to be made that Icihgo's birth was organised by Aizen (though this is a stretch). So there's a whole 'created rising to surpass the creator' narrative that is just ripe for the taking but ultimately goes nowhere.
The funniest thing about it is how incredibly fucking stupid and lazy it is. There’s absolutely no evidence that Kubo actually wrote Bleach in such a way where this would be the underlying plot thread, instead he just does the “bleach asspull” tactic again of not actually doing the difficult narrative work of actually showing the reader how Aizen is this “master 34DDD chess master” but rather just says “oh yeah uh Aizen was manipulating everything since before you were born” in a single moment of the Manga. It’s so stupid!
@@theshonenmaster2989 Let's not say that because most of this was revealed AFTER THEIR FIGHT so it didn't matter, telling someone something versus it actual being shown does a lot . R.G Naruto vs Pain, Luffy vs Doflamingo etc fights need weight and we need to see that weight
@@almosteldenlord9008 funny thing is the ending of arrancar arc was teasing us bout the soulking but we understand it way later especially with the added scenes of the tybw anime, but I guess that some people aren't patient enough to wait the explanation and they want everything to be explained directly, another funny thing is, when oda or another author does this, wow it's a foreshadowing with a strong narrative, but when kubo does it, nah it is bad, personally, I appreciated the dynamic between urahara and aizen, ichigo's final form was character development for him as he was finally ready to give up his powers to protect the people he needed to, + when something that you may find subjectively bad doesn't make objectively bad, oh and check a look at dbzimran and flame of rebirth videos that debunked this 90 % false video btw
Hueco Mondo was never supposed to be the "Hell" of the Bleach universe it was literally supposed to bee an empty wasteland with nothing to live for and nothing to gain. That is why the espadas are so quick to join Aizen. They literally have nothing else to live for.
@@chudmanrising8102 Not really Hell is supposed to be the place of eternal punishment for evil souls (Bleach already has a hell and its not Hueco Mondo) wheras Hueco Mundo is an empty void reflencing on how a Hollow's sole purpose is to just eat and get stronger. No one is being punished and it has nothing to do with being evil. They serve 2 completely different purposes.
@@chudmanrising8102 you realize theres an actual hell in bleach right? the realms are based on samsara. this is the issue with bleach critics, you dont even understand the series you are reading, how can you even form criticism. assuming you are one of them of course.
SamuraiBeluga I’m honestly not sure why you think it matters what technical allusions he was making the realms when the actual writing that matter e.g. the plot, battles and the characters were so empty in that arc. Yes the fact that it was a realm of empty nothingness fundamentally reflects that they were hollowly searching for something more but it also has the downside of giving all the Arrancar a base underlying motivation that was the same while he only actually fleshed out a few of them beyond that.
Thousand Year Blood War is going to be hype, but I hope they fix the ending. Right now the ending just makes it feel like Kubo got tired and just wanted to sleep already. Still, I can never hate Bleach (Maybe the fullbringer arc, I won't even defend that, it's just mediocre) it's shaped me into the person I am today.
Kubo was rushed by jump, you can see the quality dip drastically after the kenpachi vs kenpachi fight duel. Not only does the pacing ramp up much faster, with many fights being ended prematurely (yorichi/urahara or Shunsui / his lieutenant or ishida fights), ya know the big ones we've been waiting for? Really sucks.
Well there's a lot more then just the ending that needs fixing. A lot of fights felt short or inconclusive. A lot of plot points just were glossed over completely. A large majority of the Quincy have no real background to make you even remotely connect to them. And overall the final few battles felt really short and anticlimactic. I still love the finale though so i hope they don't alter it that much or at all.
Yap the final fight was such a shame......i get kubo was rushed that time so hopefully he can do better this time and give ichigo what he deserved. We didnt even get to see his final bankai power yet. Also timeskip also feel rushed....tho later on a novel (CFYOW) that covers what happened after TYBW arc but before timeskip, takes place 6 months after end of war. There a lot of infos and details covered in that novel, about soul king, soul society past, etc. Hopefully they make OVA or movie for CFYOW....if cant include it in anime.
I am 100% ok with characters unleashing new moves almost out of nowhere, you know they have a hidden card and they will use it at one point. However, what i am not ok with, is when the secret hidden card is specifically tailored to counter the opponent's own secret card, that's way too much bullshit. So you are gonna tell me that each time, for each match up, every single character was hiding a secret power that was gonna be useless unless they unleashed it just to counter the secret power of this one bad guy? come the fuck on!
a lot of the fights he references though are awful examples for what he is trying to say, yumichika's shikai is super foreshadowed, its obvious that rukia would use her shikai, its like saying jotaro won a fight with star platinum, thats literally rukia's ability. there are definitely a lot of moments that i agree with, like most uryu fights. but saying "yoroichi won her fight with her brand new shunko" when... thats literally her main and only ability and both she and soi fon have it is just... strange i mean its like saying rock lee vs gaara has "poor technical narrative" because we didn't know about the gates or that lee could use them. it doesnt make any sense.
Here's my theory of why Bleach anime got canceled. The final arc was kinda just getting started when the Fullbring anime arc was wrapping up. So the studio would either have to do another long filler arc to give them time for more chapters to come out as they did before, do it like Naruto and throw in some filler stories in between at random, or just cancel it and maybe bring it back later.
If i recalled correctly when the anime ended , it was literally on the latest chapter of that time or 1 chapter away and that was before the thousand year arc was announced
This isn't really a theory because rurouni kenshin got canceled because the filler was shit and black clover anime ended because it was caught up to the manga and black clover has the same studio as bleach so they probably realized that filler wouldn't sell and then ended it so they can come back to it later
@@rahulmathew6396 He has so many things wrong in this video and the last, that are just things that he thinks and tries to pass it as fact, it's weird.
7:05 Magical CUP? UM EXCUSE ME that man's face is being melted by the magical BOX from the first movie not the CUP from the third movie. REMAKE THE VIDEO AGAIN
Holy shit, yeah, I just realized the other guy got rapidly aged. Hell, I never even realized those shots were so similar. THERE HAS TO BE SOME KIND OF CONSPIRACY HERE!!! :D
Super Eyepatch Wolf: I WAS ACUTALLY PLANTING FALSE INFORMATION ABOUT BLEACH TO MAKE BLEACH FANS MAD SO I CAN MAKE A NEW VIDEO IN 4 YEARS AND IM DOING IT AGAIN HAHAHA Me: You got the Indiana Jones reference wrong, you handsome devil.
@@MacForaday A cup did melt (well, actually disintegrate from rapid aging, but the point remains) a Nazi in the third film though. "He chose... poorly."
"I'm not going to go into the details of Goku vs Freeza, it's a long fight."
It's not that long, it's only like five minutes.
"fives minutes"
Those are some Dio's minutes
every second in dragon ball time is like 2 episodes
TBF it's not that long on Paper, long, but not as much as in the Anime.
You sure you don't mean Krillin?
"Being a fan isn't UNCONDITIONALLY loving something" - Man I wish that mentality was the status quo in every fandom, would rid a lot of the inherent toxicity
WindTheBrave no it’s called having a brain
@WindTheBrave im not a fanboy like you and im not an idiot who loves something i only like something arent you basically apart of an echo chamber or just in a terrible community.
@WindTheBrave what the hell? So you dont even know what they are even talking about, i wonder who really is high? What kind of a freak are you?
@@dinogt8477 ...So you're just agreeing to the OP?
Vanta Black what op?
Tite Kubo should design clothing... I love the clothes that everyone wears.
I second this his character design is awesome.
Do keep in mind most of them are from fashion catalogs
And keep making manga
Bleach and One Piece fashion is pretty good.
he did want to become a cloth designer
I'm just here to rewatch this in preparation of John dropping Fall of Bleach: 4 years later: 4 years later in a few months.
Unironically with how well the current anime is doing, and if they fix cour 3/4 (no idea how bad it is I haven't read the manga but i heard it was very rushed) like they did with the current cours I can see him making a rise of bleach video.
This is a funny comment to see after specifically 4 months
See you in 4 years for The Fall of Bleach: Everything went according to Keikaku*
According to Keikaku??? (He edited his comment so my joke is now ruined. The original comment had Plan)
@@Girvo747 KEIKAKU
You are that close to making a perfect comment and you miss it, my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined
Edit: understandable, have a nice day
@Ruboert stallion and best manga is 177013
kanra delet this 🔫
"Male models shooting ghosts at each other." I have never heard a more accurate explanation of Jojo in my life
change "gay models" to "flamboyant homosexuals and drag queens" and you got it
@Ho Lee Shi And some plankton as well, don't forget the plankton shooting ghosts in part 6
Imagine creating a character named Grimmjow Jaegerjaquez and not putting him in literally everything.
This is the realest criticism of Bleach tbh
He put some in the light novel and he plays a big part in it
@@zootmusiclube5971 Good. Because for reference I dropped out near the end of the Soul Society so literally the only things I know about him is his name and what he looks like and he's still one of my favorite characters.
@@dapperghastmeowregard Same here! I didn't realize how little I knew about him until you said it
He became my favorite character of all time the moment he popped out of the sky and beat the ever-loving shit out of Ichigo bare-handed.
Supereyepatchwolf's villain reveal was unpredictable and true long term storytelling
he truly is the Oda of youtubers
Surprised to see you here! I guess the combat sports and anime fandoms overlap a lot...
What? Pls explain
@@ivanivanovitchivanovsky7123 49:50 watch
@@ivanivanovitchivanovsky7123 r/wooosh
Eyepatch wolf takes off his glasses and slicks backs his hair
its was me austin, it was me all along!
NOW IM MOTIVATED
wait you mean I was the main villain all along ?!
@@mannythelazyguy6529 AW SONUVABITCH!
He doesnt deserve ur aizen comment
I just wanted to point out more technical insight on the frieza fight,
Frieza's main weakness even before Goku goes super saiyan is that he can't sense energy, and major points in the fight reflects that; Goku underwater blindsighting him with ki blasts, Goku surprising him with Kaioken, Goku charging the spirit bomb right over his head, and then again at the end when frieza becomes so distraught that he doesn't even keep track of the trajectory of his little pizza slicers.
IMO this also blends in with his character/emotional shortcoming as well since Frieza's whole personality is that he thinks everybody else is insignificant, so of course he wouldn't care to feel their energy.
The notion of a super saiyan is also introduced early on with the fall of the Ginyu force. It becomes a huge character flaw as Vegeta shows desperation in trying defeat the tyrant that pinned him down all his life by clinging to a fairy tale of his dead race. The power up serves both an emotional and technical progression to the story of DBZ
bryal
Not only that, it ties into themes of nature vs nurture in general, which were prevalent throughout the entirety of the previous Saiyan Saga. Goku defeats both Vegeta and Frieza who initially view him as inherently inferior through hard work. Goku utilizes his unique saiyan biology with both Zenkai boosts and super saiyan to become strong enough to actually challenge Frieza and the Ginyu force, proving to both that it was Saiyans who were inherently superior all along.
Trash as Super is, people don’t give early DBZ enough credit for the amount of storytelling it packs into its fighting and training arcs...
That’s a really cool point that I hadn’t thought about, thank you.
That and frieza like vegeta was incredibly arrogant, being superior because it's his birthright their is nobody above him, here comes goku a sayain that trained his entire life fought multiple battles grew naturally the thought of "wait I can lose!?" Never crossed his mind, its just like bryal said nature vs nurture. Birthright vs. Hardwork
PLUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUS The Super Saiyan transformation had been foreshadowed by Vegeta's mentionings of the Super Saiyan legend beforehand... almost too much so.
18:25
Not only does Aizen stop Ichigo with a single finger, he also stopped his theme song.
Aizen stopped the main character’s theme song.
That is still an amazing moment.
That moment is waaaaay underrated and when I first saw it, I was like "oh shit...". It's a fantastic way to sell how powerful the villain actually is.
One of the best plot twists in anime history
And, if Im not mistaken as its been awhile, doesn't that theme song NEVER play again after said moment? Cause if so, its even more hype!
@@Icarusblade123 I don't recall if it does, but a different version gets introduced when Ichigo shows up post-Final Getsuga training.
And then Ichigo stops AIZEN's themesong during their rematch only to finish him off with a remixed version of the theme song Aizen killed.
Look, I avoided watching this video for quite a while. Bleach always had a special place in my heart. I didn't need anyone else telling me why I was "wrong" in enjoying something they considered an "inferior piece of media".
Recently I came into contact with this channel again with the new Garfield video, and I loved it. And with the Bleach anime return now confirmed, I decided to man up and give this video a try. And I'm happy I did.
I still love Bleach, and yet I fully support this video. I have a number of disagreements with quite a few points in it, but I can't say I don't understand your point of view. And to me, what really matters in the end is for us to be able to respect each others tastes and opinions, so I truly appreciate your position throughout the explanation. Needless to say, I'm now a fan of your work. Well done!
you might have realized this, but it's definitely not a good thing to misconstrew on opinion piece on a piece of media as dude telling you your opinions are invalid
@@moongirl-d9h What? He didn't. There is a whole section at the end of the video where he literally states that if after we listened to him, we still don't agree with him and still love the series, then all power to us. This is how he interpreted the story. I have my own interpretation, and it's wildly different from his. I just respect his opinion, just as I felt he respected mine. There are a lot of people spreading unfounded hate over this series, but I don't think Wolf is one of them.
People need to stop this mindset of us vs them. It's like differing opinions can't coexist anymore.
Wow! You're the culmination of how every anime fan should be, open to ideas and being respectful to other's opinions about the anime u love.
@LucasBrito love this comment
@@lucasbrito7246 I think Pant was speaking to the introduction of your original comment where the original reason you avoided this video was because you were afraid of having your opinion contested (i.e. you made up your mind that this existing would somehow make your love of the series "wrong")
It's a fair concern given how much bad faith opinions on the internet exist, but not something worth holding on tightly too. If ya really love something, criticism is a good thing so ultimately as another bleach fan, glad you ended up watching the video
I can't wait for 4 years down the road when you can make The Fall of Bleach: 8 Years Later as an April fools prank
>April fool's prank
Nah, fanboys will find something wrong with this video too. And the next video will have to be at least twice as long to address everything. All according to Aizen's keikaku. Muahahaha.
After a short intro, Rick Astley start singing on loop for 1 hr
“Male models shooting ghosts at each other”
Pretty accurate minus The hands stand user and that guy from golden wind who's stand is a fishing rod that phases through shit
Okuyasu and pesci
@@blademaster4361 they both ugly
@@blademaster4361 Notorious B.I.G. user.
@@starkiller6tothe9gaming81 How DARE you! Okuyasu is beautiful.
Maybe the true Fall of Bleach is the friends we made along the way.
Isn't that the One Piece?
The one piece?
@@kingmuizz708 its been too long dont joke
@@abloshow91 ..........
It's all about family
Hueco Mundo being a bland, empty desert actually fits the ideal of Hollows very well, in my opinion. Hollows are souls who let their grief and regrets from life overwhelm them, and as such have become tormented beings, devoid of happiness. They are, literally and figuratively, hollow. So, all in all, it fits the theme like a glove.
"No guys you don't get it, the bad worldbuilding and repetitive story arc was INTENTIONALLY bad!"
@@doxxbot4737 what he's referring to is soft worldbuilding, the type of worldbuilding bleach uses. It's based more on the world reflecting the themes of the story, as apposed to hard world building which is based on logistics. It's also used by stories like Hunter x Hunter, Ghibli movies, and Harry Potter. Hard worldbuilding is used by stories like one piece, lord of the Rings, and AoT.
Neither method is inherently better or worse than the other, they're simply 2 different methods of worldbuilding
@@afellownerd I’d say it did need a bit more concreteness in world building because as of right now, the little details seem to make little sense. For example, how can souls breed? Where are the resources in hueco mundo besides other hollows for ajunchas to eat? Why are captains that didn’t fight the quinces or other soul reapers so strong when their jobs are to kill hollows, of which all are extremely weak compared to them?
Soft world building is fine but Kubo definitely would have benefitted from being more concrete with certain things.
@@thecod2345truth
@@thecod2345 it's all Aizen plans😂
"I have the power A: ANT. My strength is that of an ant, but scaled up to the size of a human!" "Hah! Fool! My blade is Tsuchibuta! The Aardvark! It eats ants for breakfast!"
I love bleach, but this made me laugh way too much
"Hah! Your blade cannot eat me! IT'S ALREADY PAST BREAKFAST!"
"NANI!!!!!!!!!!!!"
javelinmaster2 lol
@@javelinmaster2
Yet my blade is the embodiment of the saying itself! Dinner before breakfast!
@@WeyardWiz "Hah I know that you haven't eaten yet!! And I have a secret Ability which is that I can Decide when it is time for something or not! so now IT WILL NEVER BE TIME FOR BREAKFAST!!!!!"
IT WASN'T A MAGICAL CUP, THAT'S A DIFFERENT MOVIE
Yes! Also what is 'omnipient'? It's either 'omniscient' or 'omnipotent'.
ib4 "Bleach 8 years later" video which is created solely to address this mistake XD
Immediately paused the video to make sure this glaring mistake had been addressed. Thank you.
all part of the master plan
Time to remake the video again.
Quick thing Huaca Mundo is meant to be like the hungry ghost realm in Buddhism it’s not exactly hell and it’s more about over attachment to material possessions and all you do there is eat but you’re always hungry (like how Hollows constantly devour each other)
It was perhaps a oversight considering the amount of research that went into the video.
@@TheHermesLP I think it's interesting that an arc with 2 varying concepts. I mean I would pick one and build on it just to be consistent
@loafhero Tite Kubo has a medical condition, so his body forced him to end it.
Bleach is half-finished.
@@TheHermesLP If youtube had gifs I'd present you with Shia Labeouf Clapping
Yes, there is a Hell, Hueco Mundo is supposed to be a realm for people who died and couldn't let go of their past and ended up being consumed by it.
after years of neglecting Bleach in the public eye, the new season for the last arc is incredibly exciting. it feels like actual time has passed in the story and we did not rush from one arc to the other
Is the new season different from the actual manga arc ? Because god knows last arc was the worst in my opinion, manga wise
@@thepierre396the manga was rushed the anime expands and it slaps hard 🔥🔥🔥🔥 the entire fandom is erect as far as I know.
@@thewanderingartists Rushed ??? The manga was painfully slow for this arc
@@thepierre396 the manga portrayed squad zero as literally 0 and they all got killed, there are some sections being expanded in the anime.
@@thepierre396drawn out maybe if you read it weekly but that's how a story of multiple hundreds of characters goes
Me: *has never watched Bleach*
Me: *sees an almost hour long video about Bleach*
Me, for some reason: Ooo, yes, thank you!
this was me essentially but having grown up at the peak of big 3 also ya know eyepatch videos are still probably my favorite on the platform
Should I watch Bleach? Is it worth watching ?
Not gonna lie this video definitely sold me on watching Bleach up until the end of Soul Society. I am very much down for a Shonen battle series that peaks hard with an excellent arc, possibly one of the best in the genre, early on and gives me a good stopping point after that. No need to keep up with it forever or for 100s of episodes just watch the first few or couple arcs and chill.
@@shanks6190 i recommend bleach until the last arc of the manga. But if you're interested on the anime 100%. But honestly man, don't let other's opinions tell you what you should and shouldn't enjoy and people who over criticize everything, like anime, probably don't enjoy a lot of things and are sore losers. Just enjoy and have fun watching anime
@@zaphero5518 Actually i recommend stopping at the end of the aizen arc
i gotta say, Aizen's illusions are so effective that they spread to the real world. First time watching this, as soon as i saw Aizen, i was like ok, this guy is definitely the villain, hes way too over the top nice, and his voice/cadence is laid on thicc. he has to be the secret villain. then bam, he's "dead". I then thought, oh hell, i was way off the mark. and when the reveal came that he was alive and was a villain, i was actually surprised, felt like a double fake out, and it was a masterpiece of villain reveals, nothing in any other anime comes close.
I really kept being sure he was of the bad guy. he whole Aizen evil / Ichimaru good was actually the one thing I saw coming from the second I saw their faces !
Kanjuro from one piece is the same caliber, but yeah. When I was a teen, the Aizen reveal blew my mind
Reminds me of the killer in the first Scream movie. “Oh he’s the bad guy for sure” “ehhhh....maybe not.” “Oh. He is”
He wasn't actually supposed to be the bad guy, Kubo only came up with the idea after Aizen was already dead.
@@MaxIronsThird I seriously doubt that it was obvious
“Dirty little secrets, dirty little lies
We got our dirty *star fingahs* in everybody’s pies.”
To be honest, if Kubo stuck with the fullbringer stuff and he took time to deepened his relationship with his friends and used different tokens or artifacts to channel his full bringer powers to be a more versatile and had to be more strategic it would've been so fantastic
The battles would've been so unique, and not just with the Villians like the Quincy but with Ichigo too
@@thecod2345 but ichigo mainly fights in his bankai state and this was explored in ichigo vs renji
I know this is an 8 month old comment, but I wanna add: This would also remove my main problem of the fullbringer arc: It being entirely abt revsersing the consequences of the previous arc.
@@EnjinSoseiI don't feel like it was only for that. It's also for the characterisation of the main characters as well (at the very least Ichigo, who plenty of people criticize as being a boring protagonist) and some explanations. It let's us see Ichigo at his very lowest where all his friends and family, his main driving force, are jeopardized and even turning against him. He's also shown to be depressed and empty because he feels like his main role in life (as someone with non-ambitious down-to-earth aspirations), to be a protector, has been taken away from him. His friends are more powerful than him now, so will he fall behind so far that they no longer need him? They hide information from him as to not burden him, but it just creates distance.
As for explanations, we finally get to understand more about Chad and Orihime's powers. Personally, I think it would have been worse for the series if the fullbrings weren't explored. Like, "Of course his friends have powers, just because he's the protagonist." It grounds then a but more knowing that it's not a complete anomaly in-universe.
Also, we get to see them do more than it felt like they did in the Arancar Arc. I feel like it's not meant to focus on the villains this time, rather refocus on the main group so that they're not lacking. Sure, everything could have ended with Aizen's fall and maybe this arc was simply a way to prolong the series artificially, but if Tite Kubo really did plan to have the TYBW arc earlier on, it serves its purpose well.
Literally this smh🤡🤡🤡
it really should've focused on chad, seriously every character has had their arc/highlight but chad got sidelined hard
To sum up Bleach battles in one sentence: "Oh, it's funny you think that was my full power."
every shonen anime
@@suffy101
Hxh : hold my rose bomb lol
@@suffy101 if you really think that you must not have read many shonen
Tell it to Toriyama how he made Goku lol.
@@asura7915 been watching Shonen Anime since 2004 ait?
"You're even uglier than I expected" is the most heart-wrenching panel of any manga for me. I've been hurt by a lot from Shonen, but nothing beats having the one person who didn't care about your appearance (especially when you hate your own face) call you a monster.
what's this referencing to? i haven't watched the video
@@vincent8460 when Tousen gains sight and sees Komamura, the best friend he betrayed, for the first time
@@vincent8460 Tosen calls Kamamura uglier than he expected after meeting him again during Aizen's main arc.
That moment was a massive tear jerker. Like jesus that hurt.
that killed me and ive never read or seen one moment of Bleach. This guy explains things so well i didn't have to!
My favourite page of any comic book I've ever read is Isshin smoking a cigarette in front of his wife's tomb and telling Ichigo that he smokes one every year in front of her because the only compliment his late wife ever told him is that he looked very handsome when he held a cigarette. I think the only driving force that got me to read Bleach way after I stopped enjoying it is to see if Kubo would ever call back this moment, but I guess it was more significant to me than him
That sounds like such a cool scene!!
The first arc of bleach (before the apparition of Byakuya and Renji) is the most meaningful arc to me. When it was small and very emotional with Scarry hollows.
It was sad that Kubo didn't use the concept of hollows for developing the arrancars. Like in the first arc , it's explained that they're souls of people who didn't succeed to overcome their Grief after their death and becoming monsters.
Agreed, the first arc of bleach was something wacky, entertaining, and touching to me. Everything after was good, especially the soul society arc’s expert plot eyepatchwolf described, but I think it had lost its funk early on
"I think the only driving force that got me to read Bleach ... see if Kubo would ever call back this moment, but I *_guess it was more significant to me than him."_*
I haven't read or watched Bleach nor have I ever heard of this scene prior to seeing your comment, but the last bit of the last sentence of your comment made me feel something.
@@concept5631 That particular scene wasn't adapted by the anime so most people don't even know about it, but it really stuck with me since the first time I read it when I was a kid. I couldn't tell you why it left this much of an impression on me but I really like to go back to those couple of pages and just stare at them for a while every now and then
John, I require The Fall of Bleach: 4 Years Later 4 Years Later. Where is my The Fall of Bleach: 4 Years Later 4 Years Later?
7:04 it was the Arc of the Covenant that melted his face off, the holy grail was in the other film. I'll await your corrected video in 4 years time.
😂
I like this level of pettiness, 10/10
FOOL! THAT MISTAKE WAS INTENTIONAL SO THAT HE COULD CREATE A NEW-
Huum, technically the "not" Graal did melt someone head off. You could say this was the wrong clip.
Yo this shit is so funny.
Just FYI, pretty sure it's canon but Hueco Mundo isn't "basically Hell", the Bleach Universe has an *actual* hell. Hueco Mundo just houses tormented souls that are not allowed in Soul Society, due to obvious reasons, before they pass on into the cycle of reincarnation again. Remember, a lot of Hollow aren't evil creatures, most of them are normal souls that were twisted post-death before they moved on to Soul Society.
Hell is punishment and has the souls that were removed from the cycle of reincarnation to suffer said punishment.
Didn't one of the hollows actually get sent to actual hell in the anime?
@@Anvarynn Yes, the one who was with the parrot. That kid was sent to Soul Society and was found by Sado.
@@Anvarynn and the manga and it was because he was a serial killer when he was human and used his hollow powers to keep killing
@@dudejoe24 Right, I knew that much, I was only commenting to compound the OP's point.
That just sounds like hell with extra steps.
I don't think we fully appreciated the mini golden age of 2000's Shonen. Early Naruto and Bleach, FMA, Death Note etc.
we were so spoiled. Every week just hit with some of the best shounen stories around. Take me back....
How about you start reading good mangas instead of these generic crap...
@@Ludo045 what would you suggest as an alternarive to this "generic crap"?
@@Ludo045 do you even know the meaning of generic? Anything become generic if it used many times. Naruto, bleach and one piece are not generic. But overuse of these concept create other anime into generic one. On the other hand, Death note, Full metal alchemist brotherhood, Monster, Fate Stay night are still the great shows even in these days because their concept are hard to copy because they are always very distinct and unique thematically.
I agree with you.
As a major Bleach fan, thank you for correcting your previous video. I actually agree with a lot of your points; my friend is binging Bleach right now to get to the TYBW anime and it’s a slog. It’s actually TH-camrs like Mr. Tommo that have gotten me so deep into the lore of Bleach and all its characters that those storytelling pitfalls (that you masterfully categorized) just don’t matter that much to me. I enjoy the world of Bleach regardless, and the TYBW arc is really killing it right now. I definitely learned something from this video, so I appreciate that.
Its very interesting, he talked about repitition, as if it had a bad impact on the series. Grimjow & renji are hot headed, but unique. Nell transforming is different from Youruichi transforming. Not forgetting both transformation were sexy. Kubo possibly did that as a tease for us 😂. Kyoraku fighting 3 characters that uses guns. Its possible, Kubo just did those things to mess with the characters, and to be funny. Like hitsugaya, always getting Slash to his side 😂. Yamamooto always getting tricked into losing. Ichigo always getting manipulated by ( Aizen, Ginjo, Yuwach) 😂. These things dont affect Bleach in any way. The series is & will forever be Great. Dont forget, Naruto, Jiraya, & Obito are so so so so so so so different ? 😂. There team mates are so so so different 😂? Their rivals were all prodigies ( kakashi, orochimaru & sauske) 😂🤣?. These things dont affect the shows in any bad way. 👍
@Excaliber682 People *absolutely* talked about it in Naruto, my guy. People got so, so sick of the Generation Xerox trope, and the "He's just like me!"-ing of every villain became a meme in the fandom for a reason. If people don't like something, they generally don't like it whenever it comes up, so it is with repetitiveness.
@Excaliber682 The entire plot structure reused. You can try to break it down into its constituent parts of "Oh, he only repeated this tiny thing" but no, the story moves near enough the exact same way beat for beat. The only exceptions being in Hueco Mundo the female character gets to win a somewhat important fight (kind of) and Ichigo doesn't get slapped with a weekend training camp for his eleventh hour power up.
Honestly, it's a little weird to see defenses of this particular thing. Because you've got half of people saying it's only superficial similarities and people are overstating it. Then you've got people saying that yes it's repetitive, because it's on purpose as a reflection of Soul Society as a "we're not that different" kind of thing.
Thing is, it doesn't matter. Whichever way you want to justify it, you do you. If you still like it, like it! If you don't mind, more power to you! My issue comes in when people feel like to defend the thing they like, they have to attack the people who don't like it and essentially call them hypocrites. That ain't cool. We have different tastes and preferences and that's fine.
@Excaliber682 "It's not cool to attack anyone" in a comment filled with insults, prejudgements and condemnations for people who don't agree with you. My dude. Self-awareness. Please. Still, you do you. I told you what I found to be my problem with discourse here and you doubled and tripled down on it. It's cool. Ride that high horse all day long.
@Excaliber682 Directed at me? I didn't say an insult was directed at me. I said pretty specifically that you present a superior attitude toward people who don't like the thing you like and like to invent reasons why their opinions are wrong.
And I'll just say this last thing about themes. Having a theme does not automatically equal good. It doesn't. For example, like it or not, Naruto did have a theme of hard work versus talent, but only for the Chunin Exam arc. They talk about it so very much in that arc. It's not as prevalent in the rest of the series, in fact it's directly undermined by later events, and you can say that's fine because the overall series wasn't about that one theme and it had moved on. But it was still part of the same work. The audience were primed to think about hard work versus talent and you can't unring that bell. That's one way to handle a theme poorly. They aren't disposable.
Another way to handle a theme poorly. Make it so obtuse that nobody gets it unless they watch a youtube video from someone who cares about it way more than you do so they can explain it for you. Let me ask you something. When you first read/watched Bleach, did you get the thing about reflection that you didn't mention until I brought it up? Did you see Grimmjow, Ulquiorra, Szayelapporo, Neliel's transformation and realise "Oh! I see! How insightful, a direct counterpoint to the Soul Society, because they are in fact two sides of the same coin! What delightful narrative metaphor!"
Gonna take a stab in the dark... And say you didn't. And that's not me calling you ignorant or looking down on you. I didn't see it either (and... there are good arguments that it's actually bollocks but let's not on that point). The reality is, the audience weren't primed to think of it in those terms. For someone to get your work, you have to make clear what you're trying to get across. If you don't do that, you're instead waiting for youtube muppets to comb over the series and hopefully find it. Assuming of course that they don't instead come up with some conspiratorial Matpat Game Theory nonsense instead.
All well and good having a theme. But if your audience don't get it, you still screwed up. We can say what we want about how later Naruto undermined it, at least during the Chunin Exam arc people picked up what they were putting down.
Tiny mistake, but the part where they revealed the lieutenants and captains had a power limiter on them during Karakuro Town battles was explained way before that time. It was back when Ichigo fought Renji in Soul Society, as he explained this limitation to show why the fight was even despite Ichigo kicking Renji's ass in their first fight and only having gotten stronger since. Does not change the larger criticism or even in that case where it's "We're losing, but we get power up and then win".
It does considering 99% of what he mentioned has similar issues. Like Kenapchi using a sword with both hands is a deus ex machina now? Really? It's like saying that the guy that had his hand tied behinds his back deciding to untie it is a deus ex machina.
But others too. We knew all high ranking soul reapers had Shikai and some Bankai. So claiming that them using those things we knew they had a high chance of having (hell most of the time we had the certainty) being a deus ex machina is so stupid.
Or claiming deus ex machina when we see abilities from people's whose abilities we knew nothing about. Like Yoruichi's shunko (which she shows off after her opponent, who is explicitly her student also)
To be clear, the reason its called a star finger problem instead of a deus ex problem is because despite previous info, it's sudden and perfectly suited to grant someone the solution. Technically tons of Stands have multiple powers and we see with the prior Stands in that arc that thats true, so by those arguments star finger is equally not a "deus ex", but it is deeply unsatisfying..
The fact that the shikais, bankais and limiter releases are always perfect solutions to the problems presented is the issue, not that the lore doesn't hint that such a thing could exist.
@@note4note804 Except they don't? Like how is Shunko any perfect solution that punching harder isn't? And all powerups make you punch harder in Bleach.
Same with most of the examples. Hell thee Kenpachi example is literally just cut harder, not even a power up
@@nahuel3433
I'm pretty sure it's just poor wording. You didn't get the point of his argument and just nitpicking.
SEW talks about outsmarting your opponent and coming up with strategy, not pulling NEW AWESOME POWER out of your ass. Any idiot could do that. There's nothing special about it.
Yes, obviously, we knew about shikais and bankais. But boy, isn't it convent that they can pull this off *the exact moment* they need it?
What if Kenpachi *haven't* achieved his Bankai? Dead. Ichigo's training still didn't let him to reach the power level needed to defeat Aizen? Dead. What if Mayuri would be *serious* in his fight against Ishida? Pulling *stronger* Bankai or Nemu betting his ass like she did with God's Hand? Oh boy he was dead.
I think SEW should have compared Bleach fights to Naruto ones. Yes they are obviously Bleach-like fights when Gaara's team arrives very conviently, just in time to save Konoha boys, or Choji eating dangerous pills to become stronger which were NEVER mentioned before, but let's look at good ones, for example, Naruto vs Neji.
If Naruto turned into Nine-Tails Fox, would it be Deus Ex Machina? No, of course not. It was stated at the very first chapter, we know about this power. It could have been pretty cool if Naruto, pretty desperate to win, broke his seal and showed this arrogant asshole what real power tastes like. But I really liked what Kishimoto does in this battle- Naruto *outsmarts* his opponent using the same very technique any child knows about. This fight was never about he's more powerful, it always was about hard work *can* beat talent. It was about "if you're just lucky to be born with talent it doesn't mean you're better than everyone else".
Do you see what I'm talking about?
@@nahuel3433 and we even get fun subversions later, like when Askin asks Urahara what his Bankai does and Urahara refuses to explain.
Or even if we are talking about "power ups" his problem with the Aizen fight, that ignores a critical bit of information that we are given regarding Aizen's supposed reality warping powers. And that is that said power is about granting one's heart's desire. And that comes back both emotionally and thematically in Ichigo crushing Aizen. Aizen was always powerful, like Ken before him, too powerful to live in normal society. Unlike Ken who wanted to be weaker, Aizen wanted others to be strong. So he gets his real wish and only realizes it right at the end. "Someone else is stronger than me."
I really like this idea of "technical' and "emotional" narratives. Marrying those two things well is the hardest thing about storytelling. Anime obviously tends to focus more on the emotional side, but when you see those arcs that manage to nail something technical in the course of expressing its emotions, it's always the most impressive. Great video!
Similarly, this is also what differentiates good blockbusters from bad blockbusters in movies, and it's the reason why Marvel Studios and some DC movies have been doing so well compared to their weaker competitors (Sony, Fox): all companies can be and most of the times ARE tied when it comes to spectacle and big fights, aka "technical" narrative, because the techonlogy is there. But the public has become deeply invested in some of the emotional narratives within them, building a very solid fanbase for let's say Captain America and having no one give a fuck about the last few X-Men movies.
A similar thing happens in the shonen genre. Anyone can hire the coolest animator and throw some Sakuga in their show, but emotional narrative and investment in it IS what ultimately makes or breaks the story and keeps people from dropping an action show or manga. The weaving of emotional narrative and character development into very popular action series like Kimetsu no Yaiba and My Hero Academia is a big part of what has made them stupidly popular, and the lack of it is what made Bleach fall.
SEW did a whole video on that ("What Makes A Good Fight Scene?"), and I highly recommend checking it out.
*technicle
I have a good agreement with you I think the perfect situation is when the writer cn strike the right balance this is one of my issues I had with MHA it focuses too heavily on the emotional part which can seem to me a cop out for lack of skills in the technical part
@@EnzoDraws Actually I disagree. You can have the most sappy, built up emotionally driven battle about to go down....but if its executed in a half assed way......what the hell was the point of all the build up? A lack luster fight...is a waste of time. And Ichigo vs Aizen in a technical way.....was lacking. Technicality, brings out the personalities of the characters in the conflict through the fighting style without words. How far they are willingly to go, what they learned, what they lack etc. All through actions. Each blow should have you nearly sweating and or crying....SOMETHING and it should be visually stunning.
To say it shortly...you need balance. You cant have this boring ass fight that supposedly had so much emotion backing it up. And you cant have this well animated or choreographed fight for the fuck of it because it will just be....another fight.
34:40 Acctually, the fact that the Arrancar Arc was the best selling arc in the history of Bleach is reflective of a very common occurence in serialized media - stories/sequels that come AFTER the best parts of the story are the most popular, because so many people were talking/enjoying the story before. It also works the other way round - the LEAST popular instalments are those AFTER those that were actually the worst, because of how dissapointed people are. The quality of the laters stories is largely irrelevant, there's certain inertia to popularity.
Case in Point Star Wars. I don't care about your opinions on the quality of Last Jedi after the Last Jedi Solo Bombed and Rise of Skywalker struggled to crack a Billion. Way down from the 2 Billion The Force Awakens pulled.
@@sonicboomers122 Solo was really bad and it's marketing terribly done tough.
And The Last Jedi made a lot less money than The Force Awakens too ("only" 1 billon 300 millions, which is way less that the 2 millions of The Force Awakens), a lot of people were already disappointed by The Force Awaken. No matter if you think of it as better or less good than The Last Jedi, it's still miles away from the original trilogy, or even the prequels.
Also Rise Of The Skywalker was terrible, I think we can all agree on that.
That makes sense. I remember my last favorite Bleach moment was Byakuya’s backstory stuff, and then the arrancars came and I don’t really care for any of those characters and the story got very bogged down.
This is also common with sequels. If a game or movie is really good and becomes popular, the sequel usually does REALLY well. In the other hand, if a game or movie is garbage, it's usually the sequel to that garbage that pays the price. Even when said sequel is much better than the original.
You're kinda right, but in Bleach's case, no. There's a reasonable romanticism with the Soul Society arc but manga volumes aren't sold in one go like movies. The Arrancar Arc was the most popular arc because it was the most well-received one. People act like Bleach went downhill after Soul Society only in retrospect due to their dissatisfaction with the resolution of Aizen's defeat. The arc itself was fine.
As a spanish speaker, expecting "HUECO MUNDO" to be anything other than empty space is hilarious to me. I actually adore how it looks and how it fits the themes of Hollows' empty heart.
Also, Gentei Kaijo never felt like an asspull/Deus Ex to me. We are informed of the Shinigami nerf on Earth back at Soul Society during the Renji fight. It was more of a "OH SHIT THAT'S RIGHT I FORGOT" moment that anything else.
Other than that, I agree with most criticisms. Great video!
"I would let Grimmjow buy me a drink" is probably the most relatable thing I've ever heard lmao
As someone who still loves Bleach, I know it's faults. Kind of why I hope the new anime is used to really expand the final arc, will it? Probably not.
I think it will.
Kubo said he will rewrite the whole arc for the anime because it was not representative of what he wanted to convey.
I have hope.
@@Erebus-PCFX did he really said that please tell me and where he said that
@@Erebus-PCFX lol show proof, don’t just say things like this, like bs
@@Erebus-PCFX I hope you're right because no amount of expansion could ever save that dumpster fire.
"This plot twist was so bad... so unbeliavable bad, it's somehow genius."
- Bleach fan, 4chan (2016)
fan boys what you want from them. its was just bad. as there was no plot twist he just did something on the spot as he was on a timer to finish.
That is the most pathetic attempt at damage controlling.
kubo Himself asked to end it… he was fedup with the story.. is not easy been a mangaka..
@@jucycreidy he could made it easier for himself if he had just gotten himself a writing partner.
@@bqw2094 no he is not.
The Sealed King of The 3 Kings of Shonen Anime. Hidden in the shadows since its last airing in 2012. In 10 years it shall recover its fanbase. In the 10th month it shall recover its story. On the 10th day it shall recover its animation. And over its runtime, it shall recover the world.
The hype-mighty does not just have the power to see the stats of a shonen magazine,it has the power to alter it!
Lol nah
Very clever. This definitely got a laugh out of me.
@@rockstickcomicsit's happening
"Hueco Mundo is like Hell"
*Hell Verse:* Am I a joke to you?
I think Hueco Mundo is more like a purgatory.
@@kryoruleroftheninthcircleo4151 i can see that. The setting of Hueco Mundo is all Grey and desert like, but not complete bullshit and hell. Hollows are forever doomed to climb the hierarchy, but there's no genuine punishment. As implied by the name, its literally just a hollow world
@@kryoruleroftheninthcircleo4151 Hueco Mundo actually is the Violence and Animal Realm of Budhism mitology
@@victorsantos4531 have you rea d bleach manga? A beast realm is mentioned more than a time, Man people are actually biased about bleach, I do agree with some of his points about background, plot hole, power scaling but this man directly states that bleach is bad so people buyed 120 million volum e of bad manga? Bleach is good bro, not best
Hxh, jojo, code geass, fma, attack on titan.
Demon slayer has very simple story yet eyepatch does not make a video on it bleach fans are very unsupportive overall and complai n when a character dies and doesnt, when kubo create a character development arc and when he create action packed arc, Its easy to attack bleach fans, Yes it has flaws but it is not baD
Natuto is not bad because of just its war arc
@@kakashihatake6052 I've read Bleach manga over 50 times. Again, being OBJECTIVE, Bleach is a good written manga with flaws I never sad I think Bleach is bad and I don1t have bias about it. And Naruto is bad cause of the whole history and plotholes, lack of planning, lack of development, not just the awar arc as you said. And his point about Background, plot hole and power scalling are some of the worst nes, specially the background one! The guy's saying a literal art technique of enhancing character expressions is bad just cause he doenst' lke it! Bleach has basically no plotholes also. And man, I support Bleach! I hate the free hate ad bias eople have about it. I'm just saying, its a good written manga, it's better written than Naruto even
I gotta say .. as someone who makes videos
I just want to appreciate the way you narrate the video
Its honestly magical
عنده الستايل الخاص به كما أنت عندك الستايل الخاص بك و الي أتمنى انه يظل يتحسن و تبقى في تطور لتصل لما هو أفضل مما أنت عليه الأن وتصبح أنت أيضا تملك سحر خاص في طرح الأفكار
It ain't that deep
السلام عليكم
@@jojostar8836 It doesn´t have to be deep, it just has to be engaging, and that it most certainly is.
@@failfort7822 Record yourself narrating anything, and then listen back to it, and then revise your opinion.
Urahara was the most interesting Character in the Bleach Universe and is unexplored both in the manga and this Video.
Agreed he needed more fights with the arrancar imo
Mr hat and clogs
Also a bit dissepointed that Shingi couldn't even fight on par with his former Lieutenant after those years with knowing the power type Aizen has.
Outside the building when Urahara became a Captain he even undid the camouflage of Aizen with ease.
Urahara had a whole mini arc in Turn Back The Pendulum. Still not enough, but it explains his backstory. Dude still lives to protect humanity against the Hollows, but likely hasn't fully forgiven Soul Society for their betrayal.
have they ever shown urahara bankai after the fullbringer? I dropped the manga there
Based on the Bleach anime returning with the Thousand Year Blood War and sales for the manga having only increased since its conclusion, I think it's safe to say that, warts and all, people still love Bleach.
I imagine that since its been six years since the ending came out, fans have had the time to reflect on the series as a whole; finding reasons to reappraise some aspects previously dismissed, to appreciate Bleach's strengths all the more and to remind themselves why the series made such an impact on them.
Greetings from the future! The Thousand Year Blood War adaption is FUCKING GREAT holy shit they're killing it top to bottom.
@@SinHurr Awesome to hear!
@@SinHurr No offense friend but... are we watching the same anime? Because I'd loved to see what you're seeing. All I can see is a polished turd.
29:00 "95% male models shooting ghosts at each other" is my new favourite description of JoJo's Bizarre Adventure.
But why male models?
@@RyanFribble i see what you did there
@@renmcmanus but why male models?
OptimusOmega It really made me laugh.
Ryan Fredericks Because they look like hunks and things would probably be different if they didn’t fight each other.
This guy was probably fire at writing essays in high school
All he did was write a good intro & 5 paragraphs of Bullshit & a summary that was just a copy & paste of his intro lol
@@nothingheretosee193 sounds like a good highschool essay lmao
@@nothingheretosee193 Are you a Bleach fan?
@@nothingheretosee193 No, that's all YOU did.
@@nothingheretosee193 are salty bro
SEW: 'Hueco Mundo is Hell''
Fans: No, it never was...
Kubo: Draws a new arc entirely about Hell.
*Kubo sees this video*
Kubo:...Hueco mundo isnt supposed.....to....be.....Hell.....hmmmmm hell huh....
I have an Idea...
@@FallenDemonFly Hell was already introduced in the Bleach manga in the earlier chapters. In one instance a hollow named shrieker was dragged into hell because he can't be purified. It was eyepatch wolf who completely got it wrong. It was stated again and again that hell is different to hueco mundo. Just shows how much he paid attention. If he didn't remember this huge detail, how can anyone take him seriously regarding anything bleach? It's as if he didn't even care.
@@darshaksanyal4755 ...i know that hell was already established and that the hell movie wasnt canon...i was making a joke...damn dude
@@FallenDemonFly my bad. Sorry for the rant.
@@darshaksanyal4755 most of what he said still made sense.
He probably scrubbed of Hell because as far as canon goes it isn't mentioned as much and he took it as an outlier (like that one time Rukia said SPECIAL GUARD FORCES were required to defeat Gillians but now we know that they're pretty much fodder).
Also I don't think Hell is mentioned in the last arc as one of the realms Yhwach was going to collapse which makes it even more sus and doubt its genuinity.
Keep in mind this is waaaay before the NEW BREATHS OF HELL is published.
Oh it ain’t a fall anymore!
In Kenpachi's defense, "Swinging a sword with two hands" wasn't a new technique. He's just lazy and personally opposed to doing it.
Watching Nnoitora have to react to being told completely deadpan: "Hey btw, did you know swords hit harder if you swing with two hands?" is comedy gold, thanks.
I think on it's own that's fine. Like it's a pretty good joke. But in a larger context of something being presented as immediately the exact answer to the problem at hand it kind of dulls the joke ya know.
@@anenemystand5582 t was not like "Immediately the exact answer", Zraki simply thought "Well, if I use both hand, I'll swing harder, let's see if it does the job" and it happened to do the job. And again, it was already established Zaraki always undermines his powers to the leve of his opponents, so him being able to one shot guys, is just his normal state of being. It was not the immediate solution, cause he was hurting Nnoitra with other hits, he just developed and won the battle
@@vcamv2354 so it was immediately the answer.
@@anenemystand5582 Nope. It happened to be. If it was the immediate answer, it would've been presented as "Oh yeah, I just have to use both hands, you'll die now". Zaraki was testing and it happened to be the immediate answer, it doesn't mean it was, as f it was presented as, or the immediate solution. And again, taking out of context and looking it as "A simple power boost" can be done in any series, if you ignore the background of things and only look at the bass of what happened
@@vcamv2354 So it was immediately the answer.
Ultimately Kubo is a brilliant artist. I love every single one of his designs. He needs a writer to flesh out a narrative so he can focus on drawing cool shit.
I agree with this wholeheartedly. One of the reasons I watched bleach is because of his cool designs.
He makes the perfect teen fantasy designs. I'd imagine if he made a vampire manga it'd blow up.
He can improve, but at the same time Ulquiorra's character arc exists.
Honestly as a writer, I dont think he is even bad. His arcs and characters (especially early on) have a natural flow and relationship chart that feels more like One Piece where characters have intimate and intertwined stories with one another.
And I literally just wrote a villain who is basically a recontexualization of Aizen. And I will say it, Bankai is honestly the best ‘evolution’ of a power system that feels even more natural then Sacred Energy (YYH), Awakening (One Piece), Super Sayain (DBZ) and Reincarnated God Jesus (Naruto)
His only fault I think his that he is so creative with characters that he just...makes too god damn many. Somehow, the Soul Society seems to have less screen time then the Real World and that is just a big old boo for me (why make a magical heaven, hell and royal palace not develop it?)
Well that one is more general, but the point is some characters in all these locations are only seen sometimes, with Captains being the main focus. (Lieutenants seem to lose prominence unless your name is Renji Abarai). Arrancar are killed off and we don’t care about Fullbringers.
Then he made another power system (Kido), then another one (Arrancars), then another (I gave up after trying to figure out Quincies ngl)
I sort of think this sort of bloat just blatantly reads as building without going deeper and deeper into the foundation. Honestly I would have been happy with just the Quincies taking Bankai and not having their own abilities to show how very, very serious the arc could be. And I mean that for ALL Bankai users.
I dont know, I havent written a multi million dollar franchise so maybe I am full of shit. Tldr: He is not a bad writer, he has a lot of good promise with the social side of story telling, his technical side needs some work and his worldbuilding is...hit or miss.
Take my opinion with a grain of salt, I basically am part of Aizen’s plan because even I had to make my own Aizen.
@@twenty-fifth420 Interesting Take, I agree as well.. to sum up what you're saying even further.. Kubo is a good writer but he made too many good things to juggle.
I swear to God people will start spamming it was all Aizen's plan.
That's just what Chair-sama wants you to think.
Well it was part of Aizen's plan.
Probably an unpopular opinion but i loved the full bring arc. felt super refreshing, and i actually wouldnt have minded a spinoff series focusing on fullbring as the combat mechanic with a new cast in another part of the world.
Totally, I love it! It’s the reason I got into bleach!
The full bring arc was heavily underrated.
It was fire. And the op really set the tone cus it was diff
fullbring arc was 🔥
I mean there kinda is one if u count can’t fear your own world
I avoided spoilers for 10 WHOLE years just to get spoiled when the show is confirmed to come back
So you're saying the show defeated your avoiding spoilers by presenting a new weapon you haven't seen before?
Seems familiar. 🤔
The part that spoiled me was the captain Yamamoto thing
@@dolo6475 I gave up watching about two episodes after they switched dimensions from the real world.
Wasn't my kind of story at the time I guess. So I think I got spoiled the most, but can't not watch a SuperEyePatchWolf video...
All according to Aizen's plan Eyepatch, This is the official start of the bleach comeback!
Note: Plan means Keikaku
Bleach won't make a redeeming comeback. I get that the diehard fans are happy but the series has so many issues that not even a complete reboot could fix it.
Would I watch it? Heck yeah I would if it's well made. But the series has huge issues. I think people should just move on and enjoy the good moments it had
@@FluffyWuffy17 Note: Keikaku means cake
@@yiangaruga4928 same honestly, i just want the series to shut me up and be good, fuck i loved bleach, loved urahara, then he got his bankai and he just stalled until grimjoe and nel showed up cause... fanservice i guess, and finish him up, its just painfull to watch the series if you like the characters that get screwed
nah. bleach is still a dull series. No worldbuilding, and the protagonist is boring.
I liked Hueco Mundos style. The fact that its en empty, barren wasteland represents how empty hollows are themselves.
That was the point of it wont mak senes if it tree or water or sunlight it would of taking away how the place is meant to feel
@@lureyourpery5569 I think you misunderstood what he's saying. The problem he had with it is the same problem he had with the soul society it underdeveloped.
@@stephonmanny7555 And somewhat forgotten once they get "inside". I mean, sure, it made for a different visuals and all, but eventually it does not even matter since they fight inside or on top of roofs. It does make drawing backgrounds much easier though, so props for coming up with a visual style that helps you cut down on the details. I am saying this unironically. I really think it is brilliant in that sense.
@@fendelphi Nothing wrong with being simple. It just plain and for me a bit disappointing. I mean if he wanted it to look like old school Japan that find; I mean it worked with other shows. What I'm saying is the world building isn't strong. Think about it like this if we brought magic like in Bleach to our world it would change everything.
How has it been almost two years since I first watched this? I swear your videos always come out around big moments in my life so coming back and watching them again years later make me realize how far I, your channel, and the world has come in these years.
I have been bothered by the fact that we never see Ichigo use his sword like a sickle and chain my entire life!
Bro what?? Lmao he doesn’t need to do that. Isn’t there another shinigami who does that anyway? I can’t think of his name but I know there’s another guy who does that already
@@Jon155mt shuhei
@@Jon155mt because it would be sick. When white uses it that way it's one of the coolest internal moments, and the show at least (I haven't read the manga) makes a big show of pointing that out and it just goes nowhere.
we did for a SLIGHT moment in soul society
He does use it he when he goes to save rukia though...
I have many problems with Bleach. But the art was never one of it. Tite Kubo has created some of the most memorable character designs of all time (if you ignore the overabundance of mammary organs...).
What are the problems ?????
Stop underestimate Bleach for nothing
Fan service wasn't as high as the other HST
@Maestro Flo I haven’t read the manga but the two biggest problems are the arc structure and lore. As much as I like the Bleach lore it does get boring, that’s just me tho. The arc structure is horrible, every time an arc ends the universe just goes back to normal. Of course the Art of the Shinagami arc and the Soul Society: The Sneak Entry arc are great but after that the story has layers of plot armor and is just repetitive. After finishing the anime and the movies including filler I read the 1,000 Year Blood War arc and it was just as good as the first two arcs. I still love Bleach with my heart and soul, I love the character designs I love Ichigo and Aizen also btw the main cast gets really stale and the piccolo affect literally happens to everyone except Ichigo.
I imagine by this comment you’re a Bleach fan boy like me but just except every story has flaws, you may think these critics are stupid and I respect that but don’t say it’s hated on for no reason that’s just ignorant.
TLDR; As much as I love Bleach, watch the anime and the filler, watched the movies and read the 1,000 Year Blood War arc it’s not perfect, every story has flaws you may think that it has different flaws than I said, but it still has flaws so no it’s not hated on for no reason
@@planatano_ I don't know if you're talking about the story but you're wrong there is still a mystery that it is about the universe on the characters for example Ichigo
"arc end universe goes to back to normal " ok and ? There is not a problem
Repetitive ? there are other shonen where it is repetitive and yet no one says anything
@Maestro Flo I just told you that we have different opinions on the flaws of the story. You were crying about people hating on it for no reason I just told you why some people have problems with it you may not agree with me but the story has problems just accept that.
I will now call Aizen: "Soft Glasses Boy" from this day foreward.
Ichigo was one of my favorite cosplays I ever did. I remember going to an an anime con right after I had discovered Bleach, and I was so enthralled with it that I skipped Saturday completely to watch it my hotel room. I will never not love it.
A big issue I had with Bleach despite it being such an influential anime in my life is that the souls society arc brings up a lot of criticism of how the soul society is run and there are hints of more issues with the soul society in later arcs but it doesn’t use these criticisms and issues to evolve the world of Bleach. Kubo had so much potential in the setting that he didn’t utilize.
Cause the development of Soul Society was not important for the series. And again, a big part of it, was cause Aizen was controlling and manipulating them to be more punitive. We saw Soul Society cruel, Ichigo came, they changed a little, and we still have the Novel who explore Soul Society more. People today get so hung up on worldbuilding and Character development, but not always you need a world to be fully explored if it makes sense, and f the narrativa can hold up without exploring every inch of the world
100% this
Yea soul society is so weird to me. I think it wasn't planned enough honestly.burn the witch explains the setting a little more but like now im confused about reverse London 😐 (dosent mean I want them to crossover)
@@nancy-xm2ig Reverse londom will have it's time to shine since the series will contie. And yeah, in the end, Soul Society left some questions unanswered like, why people still got to be poor as fuck even afterlife? And, if people go there with no memories of life, how could Rukia could lie to the parrot kid about him seeing his mother? haha But, I think Soul Society worked well as the proper background and what was explored of it was good enough
@@vcamv2354 the problem kubo potrayed was that soul society was only able to be manipulated because nobody questioned the system and aizen merely took advantage of it, it goes much deeper than that
super eyepatch wolf went bankai
He took a bite of gum gum
When’s the next video coming boss?
I love books
Hi hbomberguy
@@Godaronful You can just watch his RWBY video and mentally replace every RWBY related word with a Bleach related word and that's it
I wished they kept Aizen with his old hairstyle and glasses from Soul Society. He's infinitely more scary to me as some dude who constantly plays up the nice and comforting dad role, even when he's with his army of literal demon monstrosities.
Gustavo Fring from Breaking Bad is a great example of what Aizen could have been had he kept that personality.
Ikr... After he evolved from the second dimension form I just lost interest in his unnecessary transformations.
I did like in his tybw he kept his hair down so it had his original look from but his facial expressions are more like Hueco Mundo. A nice blend
The only reason he got rid of it was because he never looked like that to begin with it was all fake including the glasses
basically what Bleach abridged is doing
30:32 The fact that captain's and liuetenants have their power limited when they travel to the real world was actually set up during the Ichigo vs. Renji fight. It was a single throwaway line, so I understand how it was easily forgotten when it's demonstrated nearly 120 chapters later.
I mean it's a breadcrumb Kubo planted and it shows he pays attention to his own story and is(most of the time) careful of what he writes(outside of some earlier stuff, for example when Rukia says the royal guard struggles with the menos grande). But it does show that Eyepatch Wolf doesn't really get his video fact-checked or do any proper proofreading to make sure he doesn't make blunders like these.
Hueco Mundo isn't Hell. There's an actual Hell that's never seen in the BLEACH manga. It's more like purgatory so all the sand and desert make sense.
Agreed. The Espadas deserved more character development because they each represent a reason a person dies. Barragan was time, Stark was loneliness, Harribel was sacrifice, etc.
Yo man. We don't talk about that movie. Ever. >.> it was a special film with special thoughts and ideas.
We's jes gon` throw it in the cabin with everything else with special ideas.
@@DeusExIra what movie? If you mean hell verse it has nothing to do with the comment as hell was literally confirmed to exist in the subsitute arc years before hell verse existed.
jake sexton Yeah, this. I had actually forgotten that myself, but I started a rewatch of the series in anticipation of the anime returning recently, and came upon the episode where the Hollow that was a serial killer in life gets pulled into Hell after Ichigo beats him.
The hell gates show up In episode 4 had me always thinking why they didn't touch on it so i appreciate the hell verse movie
@@DeusExIra Except Kubo liked the movie and only showed disappointment that they didn't use all his ideas.
I've always liked the big 3 equally, thats why I always get sad when Bleach gets the shit end of the stick most of the time. Kubo, Oda, and Kishimoto were inspired by different aspects of Toriyama's DBZ and decided to not only make their own story, but completely reshape the Manga industry into what we call the Modern Era. They all defined an entire generation of people. Regardless of the art, story or characterization, most of us stuck through to the end.
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And we Togashi fans get stuck in literal hiatus hell
@@antimatter3084 Same with Miura fans.
Naruto is better than the other 2.
Even being a mediocre manga artist/writer requires a lot of talent, because you need to be really good at both drawing and writing, and hard working enough to do that week after week for years
I have to give it to Kubo, this guy know how to draw Black Anime Characters very well!
Yes, Eyepatch also doesn't mentions those little details. The way the characters are named, and then presented is so top notch. And this anime is in my opinion the only one with most character of color and with most prominent roles. I guess nobody really notices that stuff right away until you are told. Also, lots of female empowerment in Bleach. Which also means waifu material lol.
@@ark_knight you just explained why overwatch waifus are popular, but Charlie's angels/birds of prey are not.
Representation != Empowerment
@@mazimadu But Charlie's angel and Brids of Prey are pretty popular? Or atleast the characters are with their respeective audience. Their audience just word it differently instead of calling them waifu or something cringy to them haha. Most female characters were empowered and were holding major plot points in Bleach as well. Even if the damsel in distress trope was also used.
@@ark_knight define "really popular" (cough, box office)
@@mazimadu Like I said, the characters are. For a movie to be popular, there are number of other things too. Hah
I think the reason some people dont enjoy Bleach that much is because most of the increases in power and training is more about the characters having self discovery and acceptance, not so much about "Heres a technique, heres how to learn it." Every time Ichigo becomes more powerful he is letting go of fear, gaining resolve, overcoming trauma, and later on learning the true nature of his heritage and accepting himself. Each time he further accepts himself, the more power he can tap into.
So it's about fighting and fighting itself ?
That isn’t very clearly explained throughout it’s hidden and surreal brief imagery that has little time and even less context. While interesting as a method of powering up and if done in a more clear or even coherent way the critical depiction of it in this video would be less justified. When you have to rely on TH-camrs or have a masters degree in Bleach World Studies to explain how the power system makes sense actually it might aswell not make sense for the average viewer. If this powering up had any impact on his fighting style, a new strategy or on how he used this new poet in contrasted to his pre-existing powers these more abstract powering ups would have felt less like Deus ex machina. Ichigo while going through a lot of emotional growth fails to demonstrate that through his fighting style past just being “stronger due to a new power available to him”.
@domainhami5253 OMG.
Did you not know that soul reapers need to communicate with their zanpakuto's.
Bleach is very deep. Eye Patch wolf is mostly pointing out things he didnt like, but none of those things makes bleach bad.
@@lucascurio8345 I'd argue that anyone that isnt an anime only would notice these if they're actually reading the manga via the volumes, not just chapters online. Kubo puts poems at the start of basically every chapter to emphasize the importance of what happens in that chapter, most of which are directly correlating to bankai, shikai, ressurection, or Völlstandig, holy form, segunda etapa, etc. They're meant to be emotional moments, not just physical ones. Kubo puts in the effort to get the message across, you just need to be able to see it.
As someone who loves Bleach I disagree. While the nature of power ups isn’t for everyone, it doesn’t exactly feel like that’s the sole or even primary reason. In my experience with Bleach I always felt that the power ups as genuine character milestones were super hit or miss. After their respective arcs Ichigo never touches Hollow Mask or Fullbring again, as if those powers were seasonal events in an MMO. So the only change that “sticks” in those instances is his power level, as if he’s shoved those parts of himself back into the proverbial closet. It would be like post SSJ Goku going back to using only Kaioken after coming to terms with his Saiyan heritage. The only powerups that I think truly stuck were his initial Bankai and his True Shikai. And Ichigo is on the better side of things. Characters like Chad and Orihime just get powers (the latter getting one of the most absurd hax) with barely an explanation, only for Kubo to just not let them do anything.
I still love Bleach for the astronomical highs it can reach, but I can’t be one of those people who go “you’re not cultured enough to understand Bleach” that the internet always joke about.
The biggest flaw of this video is saying that the guy get's his face melted off by a cup in Indiana Jones
Doesn't he?
@@ranadapolite4599 the magical cup was another movie, the face-melting was due to the Nazis opening the Ark of the Covenant-i.e. God's nuke from the Bible.
@@ranadapolite4599 The ark is suppose to contain the original tablets with the ten commandments not the Holy Grail.
He also called Yammamoto Yamato
@@fernandoc5536 boxes are just cups for bigger people
“grimmjow disappeared as if his only purpose is being an obstacle to ichigo”
Aizen: Kinda, that’s what I planned
This is an underrated comment. It can pretty much sum up all main villain's plans for their minions.
I watched Bleach because of this video. It’s glaring flaws are apparent, and it really does need work. But, damn I had fun watching it. So, I think it worked out in the end.
get ready for the new Anime Arc its gonna be FIRE
@@tonyshazam6271 im more so concerned about animation... they’re changing the studio
@@jcstitches4671 They're not changing studios,Pierrot is still working on it with the addition of MADHOUSE. So Bleach is in good hands, just waiting for that trailer to drop.
Yes
Goodie! I kept hearing news and rumours about Pierrot not having the wheel and I started freaking out
The phrase, "years of watching something I loved turn into something I didn't" holds so much weight and feels very relatable on a subconscious level.
That Swastika is turning left, not right. So it's the "good" one.
I thought it was a manji when I first read it, like on Neji's forehead.
@randomer1432 ????? It's literally the kanji for "complete" in Japan, and holds significance in basically every Buddhist culture. Japan is one of the most intensely Buddhist cultures in the world.
Plus, if you really want to keep parroting your Nazi trend, why choose an ancient symbol of peace that's been around for thousands of years? Why not the literal Nazi in the Bleach plot, the Quincies, who wear uniforms and are obviously a militaristic trope of Nazism?
@@dr4gonbl4z3r yup, you are right. Some people just jump on the political bandwagon and see dog whistle everywhere. If Ichigo made the OK hand gesture or was allied with a frog instead of a cat, this guy would be getting worked up over that. Some people even think Hitler designed the symbol instead of finding it in a eastern trip. The same people yapping about cultural appropriation don't know that this symbol existed in another culture and was re-purposed with minor changes.
@randomer1432 nice try
@randomer1432 i will say, your story hold some water, but still, the budist symbolism has been in the country longer than Nazi ideology
What confuses me most about where Bleach went is how it starts out being so much about the dangers of unjust hierarchies, exemplified in the Soul Society arc by a focal villain so blinded by his devotion to "duty" that he kills indiscriminately to _make sure_ his beloved sister gets executed for a ridiculous non-crime, and an organization so morally bankrupt it employs a sadistic murder clown to torture people to death for the crime of defending themselves against literal monsters.
And then they just. Become good guys? As soon as the tyrannical regime goes back on the one thing that made the protagonists angry in the first place, the tyrants get to become supporting heroes. And the goal of every villain from then on is to destroy Soul Society, which the protagonists are now prepared to defend with their lives despite the fact that ABSOLUTELY NOTHING HAS CHANGED to make it anything but a genocidal military dictatorship. They even keep bringing up the atrocities the Soul Reapers have _and continue to_ engage in, but for some reason we're just supposed to accept it now?
The series should have ended with Soul Society burnt to the fucking ground and something better rising from the ashes, not a glitzy "look how far they've come~" wide shot of a ruling council that still includes KUROTSUCHI FUCKING MAYURI
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Do you have discord? This is a great take and I want to pick your brain on further parallels
“Unjust hierarchies” never thought I’d see another comrade in an anime channel.
It IS important to remember that the Soul Society didn't just represent a flawed system. It was a society that committed moral and interpersonal injustices for the sake of the greater good. While they were presented as antagonists for the purpose of the arc, and overall the story did push the narrative that moral justice couldn't just be abandoned for the sake of the greater good, they were still ultimately protecting the world by maintaining the imbalance of souls and preventing hollows from devouring humans en masse. I haven't dug into the entire story in a while, but if I recall correctly, there are points later on when it is implied that the Soul Society has loosened up on its immoral rules, and this is definitely reflected in the growth of a lot of the early captains we're introduced to. Mayuri is actually a good example, since by the time you reach the final arc, he's doing some of the most good out of the cast (saving Kenpachi and the others from Squad 11, reviving the literal dead, showing more compassion towards Nemu.) You see this in other characters like Soifon and her softening attitude over the course of the story, Byakuya in his growing compassion towards Rukia and when he actually claims he's taking Zommari down for the sake of personal justice (protecting Rukia) rather than legal obligation - not to mention when he literally begs Ichigo, the result of something that was previously considered a grave crime by his organisation, to save the Soul Society in his stead. Even the Central 46 seem to get phased out of authority once Shunsui takes over as captain commander and pretty much explicitly acts against them in training Kenpachi.
@@flatsnark2516 but that's even worse. Framing such a fundamentally evil organization as merely flawed, forced to do awful things "for the greater good" - that's how people actually justify real-world atrocities.
Mayuri is again the perfect example. As you say, he does some good things during the Thousand Year Blood War, but he also wholesale slaughters 28000 innocent Rukongai denizens to "maintain balance", which he gets pushback over but doesn't ultimately suffer any consequences for. So either we're stanning an organization where the unnecessary mass murder of tens of thousands is a slap-on-the-wrist kind of offense, or Kubo Tite has bent himself backwards to create a situation where the mass murder of tens of thousands is necessary and morally justified, neither of which reflects particularly well on the series.
(Also, acknowledging that he "does good" kind of requires us to once again assume that "good" is synonymous with "defending Soul Society", which uh I don't really agree with)
49:55 that was some 4th dimensional chess there, gg.
Oh hey, didn't expect to see you here
some Yu-Gi-Oh 5D's there
Yeah, that's one way of calling it.
I thought he was going to say "spreading this video around za warudo!" Rather than the world
well L is in his name
what a super genius, this was all going according to his plan that he instigated right from the start where he secretly planted L in his name as a reference to deathnote's L, hinting at his master plan, how could we not have noticed that this was the true intended meaning behind his name all along and was clearly planned form the very beginning
It's 2024. I can't wait for The Fall of Bleach: 4 Years Later: 4 Years Later.
Despite it's problems, it was the series that got me into anime and writing, so it will always have a place in my heart. For me it ended when Ichigo lost his power.
And I really, REALLY liked Urahara. I was so happy when he became the protagonist of a few episodes. Seeing my favorite character getting the spotlight for a short while is an experience I'll never forget.
"Turns out the true villain of Bleach… was me.
"
What is this, Naruto?!
No... just part of Aizen's plan. Just like this comment. >:)
I am glad that I am not only one who remembered Black Zetsu when he mentioned retroactive changes
One note on sales figures as a sign of quality:
It is rare that a series' sales/viewership will decline after a single bad story arc or poorly received plot development, especially if it has been going for a long time. Most series are inconsistent in their quality, after all, and so there are always plenty of people willing to ride out a bad/disappointing arc to see if things get better.
Instead, the substantial decline in sales tends to begin sometime after, when people begin to realize the earlier bad arc was not an anomaly and that the quality is unlikely to return to its original highs. In other words, sales of a long-running series represent not a decline in quality, but a decline in the fans' faith that things will improve. When people run out of faith in the series, they decide to put their money, time and emotional energy elsewhere.
This is a good point.
I think this is accurate, but ultimately when it comes to Bleach, people wanted to see the end of Aizen, and once they got that there wasn't much need to continue reading. Hueco Mundo was mindnumbing, but the real problem with Bleach's structure is that Kubo wrote an ending and then tried to keep going after it.
Revlar Milion Agreed.
This is straight up untrue. Wanna know why? Literally every series, even those viewed as the greatest ones ever have a peak, and then slowly have their sales dwindle down. It happened with Bleach, with Haikyuu pbs.twimg.com/media/D4W4zKzUwAEntoA.png
it's happening right now with MHA,
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happened with Gintama
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Black Clover
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You name it. That's just the natural cycle of a manga. And hell even at it's worst Bleach was only 6 thousand sales below the best Gintama volume. Currently MHA is only 7 thousand above the worst of Bleach, and as long as the series keeps going, chances are the numbers will drop more. This without taking into consideration that Bleach is way longer than most of the series I linked here and therefore the trend of some people dropping out before the next volume was way longer compared to others
That's just how the natural cycle goes .
@@revlarmilion9574 Lots of manga wind up going long after the ending that was originally planned for them, especially when you're talking about serialized shounen manga. The problem is Kubo never gave Bleach the foundation it needed to keep going after that original ending point. To do that, it would've needed at least one of three things:
1) A strongly motivated central character who can push the story forward on the strength of his personal drive.
2) A richly detailed world that new conflicts can naturally emerge from, even once all current conflicts are settled.
3) A willingness to explore the natural consequences of previously established events.
Unfortunately, Ichigo is a largely reactive character with little internal motivation, who doesn't concern himself with things like protecting others or getting stronger unless there's an active ongoing threat (and, sadly, none of the other characters were strong enough on their own to assume the protagonist mantle for him). The world was also not very well defined, so there wasn't much for a new threat to naturally emerge from. And Kubo only decided to go to the Quincy well after an entire arc that ultimately went nowhere.
Honestly, if I were Kubo, I'd have pulled a Jojo and just done a completely different protagonist after Ichigo beat Aizen. Let him have his victory, and focus on something else without the weight of Ichigo's non-character bogging the story down. But, obviously, that didn't happen.
A piece of my childhood that I ll always fondly remember, especially the soul society arc, that feeling when your whole world was expanded for the 1st time, when everything turned from something lighthearted to despair and sacrifice. This arc was what bleach meant to me and no matter how shitty it became, I will always love it
I think the arrancar, hueco mundo and Fake Karakura still retained the quality of the SS arc, I have some nitpicks here and there, but I don't think it got shitty
@@cosmicflower5891 forget it buddy, all these emo nostalgic dudes act all as if bleach fell off after soul society or should have ended after arrancar arc, they can't even understand what kubo wanted for the series and can't even appreciate the character developpements they have been throughout the series for characters.
I think it god shitty at fullbring arc tybw is good
One thing I did like in the Fullbringer arc was the psychological warfare Tsukishima inflicted upon a de-powered Ichigo by somewhat, but not fully, turning Ichigo's loved ones against him. To them, Ichigo is a loved one who has snapped (possibly from the combination of the stress of his previous battles, loss of power/connection to the spirit world, and perhaps graduation from high school and all the problems that entails) and is lashing out against another trusted friend/family member. Tsukishima took the very reason Ichigo fought which was to protect his loved ones and somewhat turned that against him and (at least for a while) it feels like this isn't a problem Ichigo could solve with sheer power. It didn't last very long, but it was interesting for a minute.
This arc also cemented the sheer uselessness of Chad and Orihime for me. I really wished they would have a moment like Byakuya where their relationship with Ichigo ends up winning out over the effects of Book of the End, but nope they're just unwitting pawns of Tsukishima and then they get knocked out when the actual reinforcements arrive.
I don't have anything else to say, this video was great and I hope it reaches heights further than the old one.
It's always hard to own up to one's mistakes, but it is totally necessary if we hope to grow as people.
I totally agree. That point in the series was actually really compelling and for the first time in years I thought that Kubo might be able to turn the series around and make it interesting again. To learn that it was the series lowpoint in popularity is really depressing and recontextualises the utterly lazy way the popular soul society characters show up in the end of the arc to pose stoically and destroy the Fullbringers. Kubo was just giving the remaining fans of Bleach what they wanted and what they wanted was absolute shit.
Yeah, totally agree, I feel like the Full Bringer Arc is also the best looking Bleach has ever been, the direction of some of the scenes (like tsukishima taking over Ichigos family) is incredible.
In my opinion the Fullbring arc could have had Ichigo's sister as the hero, with Ichigo taken more of a mentor role. Giving him more responsibility as an adult and giving him a new perspective on his role leading forward. He could still get his powers back in the end(since the arc and getting powers back are not connected), but now with a new perspective and sense of responsibility.
@@fendelphi that actually sounds pretty dope.
@@supereyepatchwolf3007 why do you hate bleach?
Eyepatch Wolf: “I’ve been lying to you for the past four years.”
Me: “Oh no! Anyway,”
Heh, cute. He made you use 5% of your ignorance.
SuperEyePatchWolf: This is not even my final video 😡
And hes lying now. There are a lot of mistakes in this video and some bad arguments to support the narrator bias.
Maybe there were honest mistakes or maybe they were used to trigger people to comment ;)
@@kronozord8346 like what
@@nocap7885 Like "forgetting" that the shinigami had those power seals imposed when they come to the real world, telling that the hueco mundo is a bad copy of the soul society when is an inverted mirror of that arc and its clear that was made on purpose. And Hueco mundo isnt hell.
Nipicking that people dont know the names of trash mobs, really?! or that zaraki used its two hands to swing a sword!?
Telling that there is no char development on hueco mundo, did he expected that all shinigami had personal relations with hollows? And then forgetting the most impactful one rukia vs aarionero.
Pointing Ichigos problematic swastika when he pretend that doesn't know that is the a symbol in a lot of asian religions .
This videos points a lot of problems with bleach that i agree on, but lots of others i just cant understand.
He even messed up the Indiana Jones reference. Dont tell me that was a honest mistake...
@kronozord Kenpachi using "two hands" was a prime example of Kubo drawing out the length of a fight because he didn't know how to make almost all of the fights in Bleach interesting. The characters sandbag until the final moment of the fight, there's literally no mind-games or as SEW puts it, Bleach has a weak "technical narrative". Just people doing increasingly powerful attacks at each other
Some examples of battle-shonen with strong technical narratives are; Hunter x Hunter, early Naruto, One Piece, Hajime no Ippo, JoJo, etc
I think one of the issue with manga is how much pressure magazine put on their artist, making them release a 18 page chapter a week. If you ever had a shonen jump in your hand you understand the appeal of full tome has not finish, inking is missing and background not fully developed are in Jump. So on top of creating a story at a crazy pace they have to redo some of their work. That’s plus the fact that the magazine might force you to continue working on a project, due to the marketing appeal and merchandising of said série that you don’t care for anymore are massive clue why and how some of our favourite série go downhill. I’ll say that WEBTOON might be healthier for their author but you still see the over exhaustion of some artist on those project. It’s sad but to see overwhelming talent and artist exploited to this extend and I think that’s should be one of your video.
This! I can't even imagine the pressure of having to conceptualize and craft a story with these insane deadlines. I would love an insider's look into this whole issue!
This is probably why a lot of manga authors are moving toward writing seinen instead of shonen since the deadline for seinen is far more loose than the constant week after week rhythm of shonen jump.
Somehow Tite Kubo got the privilege for his newest work, Burn the Witch. He finished it last year, only published it this year. On top of that, a movie adaptation based on his work already been made within that 1 year break. Now, he gets a greenlit to continue his manga on his own pace. It's pretty much a seasonal manga that no one ever done before.
I believe SJ already allow their mangaka to take their rest for a week per month.
@@antimatter3084 ? There are weekly seinen series as well. There are also shonen series that only release once a month and in some magazines once every three months. The only difference between seinen and shonen is the target audience.
33:14
The show makes it clear that ichigo actively dislikes the hollow within him at this point and makes sure he doesn't interfere with any of his battles or takes over entirely like vs ulquiorra, he makes the choice of not wanting to fight with the brutality of white because of that
49:57
It's all fun and games, but if you eventually DO make a, "Fall of Bleach: 8 Years Later", video, then BOY....You 'gon have a lot of explaining to do!
That would be so good haha
He better. The 1000 year blood arc will have DVD sales and TV ratings
the opening one of bleach is the fucking embodyment of the 2000s and i fucking really love that jesus the amount of nostalgia i feel when i hear it
For real, I was a sophomore in high school when it came out.
@@DeathSpellXVI lol i was a sophomore (hs) when i stated watching it. i’m a junior rn
A cool work around of why the soul society is basically feudal japan is because each culture has their own soul society. The fullbringer arch couldve been reworked as another culture attempting to recruit Ichigo as a soldier after seeing how powerful he could become in order to launch a war against other soul societies...or something along those lines.
The thing is, this is explained kind of in burn the witch. In that manga its explained they work for the soul society west branch which is in London.
So the way I see it is; the reason why soul society in bleach is feudal japan is because that's where japanese souls go. If you died somewhere else you would go to a different soul society
That makes the narrative retroactively so much smaller, though. Aizen becomes...just some dude.
But then why does Japanese Soul Society have the lynchpin for all existence in their custody?
@@percussionfellow6168 Think of Aizen as Hitler or Genghis Khan then. If Aizen took control or made his own Soul Society or whatever, then he could go and wage war on other Soul Societies and take them over and end up becoming the king of all Soul Societies
They basically explain it perfectly just by being rigid in their rules
They may have had a few see some stuff in the world of the living throughout the years
Renji likes bikes
And some like sweets and so on
But the soul society basically stagnates so much you could NEVER get them to change for a single person before Ichigo
But also it just works
Also the world is basically earth sized or bigger
So don't feel like Aizen is small time
His ideals would of collapsed reality lol
I admire your integrity and willingness to so publicly admit your mistakes. It's a rare thing these days. Never forget it's value.
I have to defend the Nnoitra reveal. Partly because at this point it's well established that Kenpachi intentionally handicaps himself to match his opponents, but mostly because his heretofore unmentioned Super Secret Special Forbidden Technique just being "holding the damn sword properly" is _very_ funny.
Literally his fight with shows this lol
Even funnier because he does only use one hand to attack up until that point.
It is honestly one of my favourite moments in the series.
Causing a nuclear explosion with a swing because you bothered to hold your sword properly is such a Kenpachi thing to do.
Nope, its an asspull, Kenpachi who lost to Shikai Ichigo should have never been that strong.
Moreover Bleach doesn't have a good power system, so its not like Kenpachi is a perfect counter to Nnoitra or something, he just moves faster because eyepatch hurr durr two hands now durr hurr
WHY DID I BURST OUT LAUGHING WHEN HE SAID IT'S STILL BAD???? I'M THE ONE BEING ATTACKED IN THIS VIDEO!!! But seriously that got me, haha !
Hey! It's great you can take it this way about something you love.
@@shytendeakatamanoir9740 no joke, absolutely love Bleach, but I do know it has flaws, like everything else.
It's the delivery that sells the joke, my friend.
@@tornadoandy123 yeah, stuff that shouldn't be that funny is made hilarious by delivery
@@FlyingFocs
It's DiGiorno.
17:32 This segment is made so much better by the fact that his excitement feels legitimate. "ThE SoFT GlaSSeS BoY?!?!?!"
36:20 The wackest thing is, the Ichigo vs Aizen fight does have a narrative behind it, it's just that the narrative is thrown away for Final Getsugatenshou. (SPOILERS AHEAD)
In this arc, there's a massive bombshell twist that Aizen drops on Ichigo; he's the reason behind Ichigo's rise to power.
Aizen brags that the ever-increasing difficulty of his fights was due to Aizen deliberately setting up each successive fight to intentionally grow Ichigo's power. That EVERYTHING Ichigo has done, from encountering Rukia, to becoming a soul reaper, to invading the soul society, was essentially all part of Aizen's 12D chess game (or at least within his calculations).
In the Thousand-Year Blood War it's revealed (SPOILERS AGAIN) that Ichigo's parents met due to an encounter with Aizen's pet hollow, White, so there's even an argument to be made that Icihgo's birth was organised by Aizen (though this is a stretch).
So there's a whole 'created rising to surpass the creator' narrative that is just ripe for the taking but ultimately goes nowhere.
it goes somewhere, just some people don't understand it.
The funniest thing about it is how incredibly fucking stupid and lazy it is. There’s absolutely no evidence that Kubo actually wrote Bleach in such a way where this would be the underlying plot thread, instead he just does the “bleach asspull” tactic again of not actually doing the difficult narrative work of actually showing the reader how Aizen is this “master 34DDD chess master” but rather just says “oh yeah uh Aizen was manipulating everything since before you were born” in a single moment of the Manga. It’s so stupid!
@@theshonenmaster2989 Let's not say that because most of this was revealed AFTER THEIR FIGHT so it didn't matter, telling someone something versus it actual being shown does a lot . R.G Naruto vs Pain, Luffy vs Doflamingo etc fights need weight and we need to see that weight
@@almosteldenlord9008 kubo doesn't spoonfed as always
@@almosteldenlord9008 funny thing is the ending of arrancar arc was teasing us bout the soulking but we understand it way later especially with the added scenes of the tybw anime, but I guess that some people aren't patient enough to wait the explanation and they want everything to be explained directly, another funny thing is, when oda or another author does this, wow it's a foreshadowing with a strong narrative, but when kubo does it, nah it is bad, personally, I appreciated the dynamic between urahara and aizen, ichigo's final form was character development for him as he was finally ready to give up his powers to protect the people he needed to, + when something that you may find subjectively bad doesn't make objectively bad, oh and check a look at dbzimran and flame of rebirth videos
that debunked this 90 % false video btw
Hueco Mondo was never supposed to be the "Hell" of the Bleach universe it was literally supposed to bee an empty wasteland with nothing to live for and nothing to gain. That is why the espadas are so quick to join Aizen. They literally have nothing else to live for.
So it's basically hell....
@@chudmanrising8102 Purgatory. Are you dumb?
@@chudmanrising8102 Not really Hell is supposed to be the place of eternal punishment for evil souls (Bleach already has a hell and its not Hueco Mondo) wheras Hueco Mundo is an empty void reflencing on how a Hollow's sole purpose is to just eat and get stronger. No one is being punished and it has nothing to do with being evil. They serve 2 completely different purposes.
@@chudmanrising8102 you realize theres an actual hell in bleach right? the realms are based on samsara. this is the issue with bleach critics, you dont even understand the series you are reading, how can you even form criticism. assuming you are one of them of course.
SamuraiBeluga I’m honestly not sure why you think it matters what technical allusions he was making the realms when the actual writing that matter e.g. the plot, battles and the characters were so empty in that arc. Yes the fact that it was a realm of empty nothingness fundamentally reflects that they were hollowly searching for something more but it also has the downside of giving all the Arrancar a base underlying motivation that was the same while he only actually fleshed out a few of them beyond that.
Thousand Year Blood War is going to be hype, but I hope they fix the ending. Right now the ending just makes it feel like Kubo got tired and just wanted to sleep already.
Still, I can never hate Bleach (Maybe the fullbringer arc, I won't even defend that, it's just mediocre) it's shaped me into the person I am today.
Agreed. It may sound cringy but Ichigo was, and still is, my role model.
the fullbring arc and any thing after it did feel like Kubo got tired and just wanted to sleep already.
Kubo was rushed by jump, you can see the quality dip drastically after the kenpachi vs kenpachi fight duel. Not only does the pacing ramp up much faster, with many fights being ended prematurely (yorichi/urahara or Shunsui / his lieutenant or ishida fights), ya know the big ones we've been waiting for? Really sucks.
Well there's a lot more then just the ending that needs fixing. A lot of fights felt short or inconclusive. A lot of plot points just were glossed over completely. A large majority of the Quincy have no real background to make you even remotely connect to them. And overall the final few battles felt really short and anticlimactic. I still love the finale though so i hope they don't alter it that much or at all.
Yap the final fight was such a shame......i get kubo was rushed that time so hopefully he can do better this time and give ichigo what he deserved. We didnt even get to see his final bankai power yet.
Also timeskip also feel rushed....tho later on a novel (CFYOW) that covers what happened after TYBW arc but before timeskip, takes place 6 months after end of war. There a lot of infos and details covered in that novel, about soul king, soul society past, etc.
Hopefully they make OVA or movie for CFYOW....if cant include it in anime.
“Bleach is full of star fingers” is a sentence that none of us should ever have to hear, Eyepatch Wolf.
Edit: you handsome devil
why?
bang yongguk is god star finger is an ability introduced in JoJo part 3, used for 2 battles, and never used or referenced ever again in the manga.
I am 100% ok with characters unleashing new moves almost out of nowhere, you know they have a hidden card and they will use it at one point.
However, what i am not ok with, is when the secret hidden card is specifically tailored to counter the opponent's own secret card, that's way too much bullshit.
So you are gonna tell me that each time, for each match up, every single character was hiding a secret power that was gonna be useless unless they unleashed it just to counter the secret power of this one bad guy? come the fuck on!
I'll keep saying it, best voice on TH-cam
a lot of the fights he references though are awful examples for what he is trying to say, yumichika's shikai is super foreshadowed, its obvious that rukia would use her shikai, its like saying jotaro won a fight with star platinum, thats literally rukia's ability. there are definitely a lot of moments that i agree with, like most uryu fights. but saying "yoroichi won her fight with her brand new shunko" when... thats literally her main and only ability and both she and soi fon have it is just... strange
i mean its like saying rock lee vs gaara has "poor technical narrative" because we didn't know about the gates or that lee could use them. it doesnt make any sense.
Watching this in September of 2024, waiting for that “FALL OF BLEACH: EIGHT YEARS LATER” video to drop any day now.
That's the thing. It ain't ever gonna drop. Naruto fell off harder than Tokyo Revengers
Here's my theory of why Bleach anime got canceled. The final arc was kinda just getting started when the Fullbring anime arc was wrapping up. So the studio would either have to do another long filler arc to give them time for more chapters to come out as they did before, do it like Naruto and throw in some filler stories in between at random, or just cancel it and maybe bring it back later.
If i recalled correctly when the anime ended , it was literally on the latest chapter of that time or 1 chapter away and that was before the thousand year arc was announced
@@Abandonblades I thought that was the case. I couldn't find the exact dates of manga and anime release dates.
You guys are correct eye patch wolf said it was because of declining ratings which was wrong
This isn't really a theory because rurouni kenshin got canceled because the filler was shit and black clover anime ended because it was caught up to the manga and black clover has the same studio as bleach so they probably realized that filler wouldn't sell and then ended it so they can come back to it later
@@rahulmathew6396 He has so many things wrong in this video and the last, that are just things that he thinks and tries to pass it as fact, it's weird.
7:05 Magical CUP? UM EXCUSE ME that man's face is being melted by the magical BOX from the first movie not the CUP from the third movie.
REMAKE THE VIDEO AGAIN
50:00 my god we're gonna get the No Cup Cut
Yeah, this one became literally unwatchable at that point!!
Holy shit, yeah, I just realized the other guy got rapidly aged. Hell, I never even realized those shots were so similar. THERE HAS TO BE SOME KIND OF CONSPIRACY HERE!!! :D
HAAHHAHA
Super Eyepatch Wolf: I WAS ACUTALLY PLANTING FALSE INFORMATION ABOUT BLEACH TO MAKE BLEACH FANS MAD SO I CAN MAKE A NEW VIDEO IN 4 YEARS AND IM DOING IT AGAIN HAHAHA
Me: You got the Indiana Jones reference wrong, you handsome devil.
Indeed, it was the arc of the covenant, not a cup that melted the nazis
Don't you see? This is all part of his grand plan.
@@MacForaday A cup did melt (well, actually disintegrate from rapid aging, but the point remains) a Nazi in the third film though. "He chose... poorly."
@@matthewmuir8884 He didn't melt, he oldified.
@@MacForaday I mentioned that in brackets in my comment, did I not?
first season of bleach and the 2nd up to the 3rd were my favorite. Being a kid and seeing the first intro used to blow me away.