ROR: Super Mario 64 Vs. Super Mario 64 DS (N64 Vs. NDS)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 มี.ค. 2017
- Ladies and gentlemen, the meme is officially dead.
In the longest Remake or Rebreak episode to date, I offer a thoroughly comprehensive review of Super Mario 64 and Super Mario 64 DS, with an emphasis on version comparison. This video didn't quite break the 60 minute mark, but I think you should probably get something to eat anyway.
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Remake or Rebreak Scores:
1- Rebreak: Fails to resurrect the same quality standard as the original due to incompetent design, technical failures, etc. A virtually worthless remake/port overall.
2- Re-Meh: Not as good as the original, but a relatively competent recreation that is still very playable. Additionally, a Re-Meh may not address the original's salient issues or fail to add anything meaningful.
3- Remake: As good or even slightly better than the original, but not necessarily worth playing if you already own that version. Typically adds some new content or fixes salient issues with the original.
4- Replace: A remake/port that changes, fixes, and adds so much that it renders the original virtually obsolete. A Replace not only faithfully recreates the original, but fixes most (if not all) of the original's issues and adds a sizable amount of new content. - เกม
I grew up with the DS version.. and let me say I was not disappointed I played COUNTLESS hours of it
Same! I remember after I beat it a bunch of times, I started learning all of the glitches too 😂
I do not want to know how many hours I’ve dumped into the ds version
Same
Sam
Same.
Galaxy and SM64DS are two of the first video games I played and I sunk hundreds of hours into both.
SM64: Where’s Luigi
SM64DS: Where’s Waluigi
SM64 Switch: Where’s Gooigi?
More like Giuseppe
Wa is real
Welp I guess on the 18th I’m looking for Gooigi
lol
It’s a thing now
Something worth mentioning when you compared graphics:
Mario's DS model actually has less polygons than on the N64, yet still looks better, so that helps your argument that the DS version looks better.
How does that even work.
It's dead obvious that the model would have more polys, so that really surprised me.
Pacomatic textures
@@pacomatic9833
The Original's Mario is made out of many spheres.
The DS' Mario is one full mesh
Pacomatic there’s a video about just type up low poly Mario
I grew up with the DS version, so going back to the original was a real shock to me graphically. Especially looking at Bower's model and his footsteps 🤣
I only played about an hour of the DS, but I grew up heavily with the 64 version and beat it so many times as a kid and almost got every star. When I got 3D All Stars I was also shocked at how terrible the camera controls were and had a lot of trouble getting stars I had no problem with as a child or even teenager.
@@gokux75 I know your pain, it was just rust and getting used to newer Mario games that made 64 seem harder.
Same, i was kinda disgusted the first time i saw the 64 game as a kid
Yeah. I saw bowser and I thought he was a grown up version of jr due to the chunkiness of his body
"Princess Toadstool now going by her original Japanese name Dr. Eggman - I mean Peach" my god I died
Sanic
*burp*
Cloud Strife Same
Sanic the most impressive thing about this comment is how you got that name
When bowser kidnapped princess eggman, Mario had to save her and start a flame war about her new name... even though no one cared when dr. Toadstool became dr. Peach
YOUR TOOO SLOWW
Fans in 1996: "I wish Luigi was in this game."
*Remake comes out*
Fans: "This game sucks!!!"
But I thought you wanted Luigi
2/5/18 That is true and it's kind of unnessassary that you have to, also why is Mario the only character who can walljump
We wanted Luigi in a game without Trash controls. That's mostly the case in Galaxy. If only he were playable in Odyssey.
It sucked because the DS had no analogue stick
@@mcsmasher1332 well I guess they needed SOMETHING to make Mario stand out and prevent you from playing the whole game as someone else when they are unlocked
we never asked for wario, shit controls or any downgrades.
The funny thing is that some people complain about something frustrating or complicated in sm64, but when it gets fixed in the ds remake they complain because it's too easy
It’s like if Super Mario 64 HD did happen, they would still complain about it being not the right difficulty.
@@7ClearlyMythic6452 Not to mention that this review even had a part where Exo argued with the complaints the controls of the N64 version get. And yet, he did make them look responsive, like longplayers of the game like cubex55 (and World of Longplays). Maybe he’s just too good at the game? Because I don’t think the gameplay of Super Mario 64 (N64) aged half as well as the soundtrack or even the old-school 3D graphics of this version. m.th-cam.com/video/jcWUuFz595o/w-d-xo.html
It is almost like fixing that thing AND giving you a character like Yoshi forced by default makes it too easy.
To even feel the fix as Mario you actively have to go out of your way to get Mario and choose to play as him.
After playing as Yoshi for awhile.
There is a healthy balance, when you do 50 things at once it will almost always be overkill.
Monster Hunter fans in a nutshell
Mits was not removed from the game, he left on his own accord because he wanted to evade paying child support.
mips
Then he got his cousins to torture us lol
I love that MIPS is an Alice in Wonderland reference (his complaint about being late mirrors the White Rabbit) and named after the processing chip
Why do people complain about the new character if they want Luigi in the n64 version?
The Retro Gamer because people hate the ds version because, "Oh my god these controls," and no more elaboration than that.
The Markinator people just want to complain for the sake of complaining
They don't want Luigi in Mario 64 as children and teens who didn't have access to the internet that we have, they thought he was in there. As adults I guarantee that nobody asks for Luigi in a 20 year old game
The Markinator cause people are stupid
back in the day there was always a rumor that luigi was in n64 theres even a video with a few million vies on how to get luigi filled with dislikes cause it was fake
Hey when are you going to make your Super Mario 64 ROR?
HISSSSSSSS
when are you gonna kill the meme? (jk)
NO KILL IT I HAD ENOUGH FROM FTCR (Find the Computer Room)
really nice video, finally someone who looks past the nostalgia!
also please do A ZELDA re break or remake!
Unfortunately, the game HAS TO kick you out upon collecting a star, because SOMETIMES the level changes depending on the mission selected, like Koopa the Quick and some bosses' sawning, the ship in JRB, the snowman's body in Cool Cool Mountain, etc. It's kind of a half-baked idea, fully realized in Sunshine.
I think the only stars that don't kick you out are the ones that you get after getting 100 coins.
@@EmperorSarco Almost. The 8-red coin stars in the Bowser stages also don't kick you out.
@@19Szabolcs91 also the switch stars.
@@quackywhackityphillyb.3005 Those actually do kick you out. You just don't really notice it because they are set up in a way where you are naturally going to hit the switch before getting the star.
Banjo Kazooie was able to do it without kicking you out, so nontendo make the decision to design the levels so it had to kick you out
Oh my goodness I love the DS version. My mom is no gamer but she loves when "green hat man" and the card game. She would take my DS and play the mini game for hours.
Lol
Wholesome
Mrs. Big time gambler.
same, my mum loved the minigames
Fun fact, the N64 version of Mario's character model has more polygons than the DS version.
Mostafa Elmansoury That proves how much better Nintendo has gotten at modelling.
@@goingdiagonal6693 you mean better at having small screens........ Ok but being serious they probably just had more storage and better texures.
@@pixelpi3s Less polygons? No wonder why the framerate is a bit better.
*wasted polygons. You failed to point that out!
That means the DS version is just more efficient.
The DS aversion looks better though because:
A. A lower resolution hides the polygonal look.
B. The textures aren’t “fill tool red” or “fill tool white” like the original.
Alternate video title: "Don't ask me for anything ever again".
Well, sorry to hear that. I didn't really mean it that way, I was more just joking around about the volume of requests. If I really didn't want to make a video about Super Mario 64, I wouldn't have done it. By all means, keep making requests.
I think he's making a Sakurai reference
ExoParadigmGamer joke referencing the sakurai meme
Javadoze Another one being for those of you who hate him no Haedox is never gonna be in any of my videos again.
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Only thing better about the original: “so long gay bowser”
The original plays better
And the controls, and the graphics. So, in every aspect the original is better. The remake plays like ass.
Ye. If you play on a 3DS all of the problems are legit fixed lmao.
@@slicklyndon1756 lol no they aren't.
Big K That’s what you say. Yes Its fixed,Its just your Not used to it. Go away.
The DS remake was the version of SM64 I grew up with, especially that the Wii and DS were the prime selling Nintendo consoles of the time. I got a DS in 2010 and was able to get the DS version easily. Comparing the quality and amount of content in each of the games, I still believe the DS remake is far better.
Same with what I got, so when I played the original game i didn’t enjoy it like I did with the DS version.
@@bN_isheeere The D-Pad is definitely an issue, but I think it's worth pointing out how other people can point at outdated aspects of the original N64 game and still say the game's good in spite of them, despite a notable portion of the younger generation disagreeing.
It's one of those limitations that, if you grew up with it, is unlikely to come across as bad to you.
I definitely have memories of trying to juggle the various control options in SM64DS, because none of them felt quite right, but eventually I got there, and I was able to consider it the better game despite having been there when the original game released (and renting the hell out of an N64 to play it). And things got way better when I got to replay the game on the 3DS, with an analog stick.
@@bN_isheeere You madman
My brother gave me his DS like in 2014 and I would play the game alot for years after. But kept losing and finding the DS
That did *not* feel like a hour long, and that is absurdly impressive!
Jack/John Carpenter Exactly, when he started to give his final opinion, I was like "WTF? already?"
Wait? Seriously?
Looks at the time bar.
THAT WAS AN HOUR?
Shortest one hour eh?
Jack/John Carpenter The mark of a great Review.
I suggest a remake or rebreak Rayman 2: The Great Escape Vs. Rayman Revlolution.
"They felt entitled to an analog stick" That's gotta be the most hilarious out of context quote I've heard! It's brilliant!
Get a 3ds and put that DS in drawer unless you have GBA games unless you own a DSi
I don't understand the context
@@filletofish2200 what
Imagine thinking a dpad can replace an analog stick.
I love the part when he’s talking about how collectathons may never be mainstream again because odyssey came out like a few months after this
Yeah but mario is like the only mainstream collectathon
He makes a shoutout of Super Mario Odyssey in the video.
He meant collectathons as an entire genre, not as the rare one-off game getting heaps of love. Collectathons were all over the place back in the late 90s. Kind of like battle royale games now, except imagine games releasing much faster than they currently do.
I really like how the A Hat in Time image is higher quality than the Yooka-Laylee image.
For very obvious reasons
I'd love a remake of Mario 64 with all the DS features on the Switch with Odyssey's engine.
I wonder if they would keep the remake closer to the original or to the DS version
fawfulthegreat64 this.
fawfulthegreat64 with waluigi
are you supid GET A SWICH YOU WILL SEEEEEEEEEEEEE STUPID
Eli Riveros Nice Waluigi impression. :3
Nicely done, dude! Been watching your status on this project on Twitter, and the time you put into it really paid off. Keep it up!
AntDude wait how did you end up here
AntDude cool to see u here by the way Texas Is mexican
wow AntDude didn't expect your cameo
AntDude!!!!
When a celebrity comments, the rush happens
i’ve lost count of how many times i’ve watched this video over the years, it’s an absolute youtube classic for me
Me as well. He does a really great job at critiquing games even if he has fond old memories.
Everytime I go back to this review, I never care how old this video is. I just ache hearing how hard the comments made you feel about your intro segments.
But then you turn it around, pick the momentum back up and pull off a fantastic analysis of SM64's two versions. DS for the win, heck they brought back Yoshi when he was planned as a crucial lead player focus in the first place! Based on that alone as a call back, I could tell it was a remake treated well.
But again I'd hate to see the effort you go to tarnished by people who try to tear you down. In more recent reviews I've seen you take the camera away but keep the flair-filled intros, and I'm glad you stuck to your guns and kept to what comes naturally. So just coming back here for the virtual hug I suppose.
Doesn't it suck when children learn a new word. I've always enjoyed a scripted video more than an unscripted one. It's why I don't care about podcasts. They just feel so lazy and makes me think if I'm gonna support someone, it's gonna be the one putting in the effort.
Plot twist: peach is actually eggman in drag
now that is a Shamalan twist
Plot Twist: Luigi is just an alter ego of Mario, and doesn't actually exist. Thats why at the end of Super Mario World the end cutscene reads, "Mario's adventure is over. Mario, the Princess, Yoshi, and his friends are going to take a vacation." This also explains the "L is real" thing in 64. Thats Mario trying to cope with living a double life.
David Maglioli explain the mario and luigi series then
a dream just like Super Mario Bros. 2
no mario become fatter and becomes eggman and keeps peach hidden away in the future
When you notice that the castle could never fit all that rooms into it
its bigger on the inside
maggie h I was waiting for someone to say this... But it's smaller on the outside.
Daniel like the tardis
Which version? DS or N64?
josh graham
Both
Can you imagine if they had just waited to make this for the 3ds?
It probably wouldn't have been my childhood because I didn't get a 3ds till I was like 8 when I had a ds and mario 64 since I was 4 so It wouldn't have have had that many special memories
You can actually play sm64 in a 3ds with the control pad and feels good, I'd say even better than Mario 3d land.
@@andresjr3d970 It's still weird bc it's emulating the d-pad
If you play SM64DS on an R4, I think there is a Virtual D-pad patch that you can use. I know there is a patch for Mario Kart DS.
@@-kold what you mean, 8 is your childhood dude, I didn't have a 3DS until I was almost 15 but I still consider that part of my childhood
My single problem with SM64DS is that your character defaults to walking. I really wish there was an option to run as default and set the 'RUN' button to a 'WALK' button instead.
Other than that, I totally love the game.
Mint Jeffer yep. I just think that people are idiots when they say the dpad ruined the game. Sure it’s worse then the n64, however is still fun with it. A run button still sucks though.
It’s not even that big of a deal
@@whyamitriggered4721 it really isnt
@@stoked-6996 Thats pretty fair
Or turn a run button to a toggle, to just continue running without holding it.
"I doubt [collectathons] will ever be mainstream again."
You got a power moon!
And a Time Piece!
I might even argue that Odyssey is more of a collectathon than SM64 was. The coins actually unlock content, and Stars are literally something you collect in the world more often.
The genre didnt come back but the games did
I love my collectathons! Rayman has been great fun. Super Mario Run has been great as well but just too chaotic and I feel like I'm grinding playing it to collect everything. Not too many recent games that follow that formula unfortunately.
Got a Golden Spatula
FINALLY! SOMEONE FINALLY RESPECTS SUPER MARIO 64 DS!
Super Mario 64 DS is hated? Why?!???!!
Freddy Voorhees
Probably because they aren’t the originals.
@@sporeham1674 it doesn't deserve hate but the controls aren't as good or fluid as the original.
I beat the ds ver. once; still trying to beat it again
@TheROBLOCrafter considering it was a launch title for the ds they probably just weren't anticipating the 3ds or its control layout yet.
Mario 64 DS can be used on the 3DS and it amazing because you don’t need the Dpad
The Amazing Clockwork Knights but that doesn’t change the fact the game isn’t built with control stick in mind since the DS didn’t have one, so you’re limited to 8 directions anyway. Not to mention you still have to press Y to run.
Honestly, on 3DS it’s just a bit better, nothing more.
@@davion4777 he even explains how the game isnt locked to 8 directions...
@@johnwarosa2905 on the 64 yes
but the ds version got locked into eight because d pad and a 3ds control stick doesn't automatically make it 360 degrees, because the game was designed with eight directions for that port
@@Cross-chan Did you not listen? The game is NOT locked to 8 directions. An example for such a game would be metroid other m or links awakening remake. 64ds features gradual turning which allows 360° movement with just a dpad. Its the same way spyro the dragon has 360° movement on the ps1 with just a dpad
@@johnwarosa2905 you know that makes me question the people who argue against 64DS. If people can deal with the PS1 games that did have analog support but dont have the dual shock and have to use a D pad for those games, why dont I hear them complain? It makes me think it's a big case of no analog stick no play! And that's honestly really dumb considering how much was added.
Fans: *complain that you're they're limited to an 8-direction D-pad.
Nintendo 64 Controller: *literally has an octagonal gate on its control stick.
It has 16 directional inputs though
@@Paul-lt8le LOL, you right. I wasn't trying to argue though; I was making a joke.
Play it on a 3Ds. It lets you just use the circle pad
@@Paul-lt8le So does a control stick? They both move in circles just fine but aight
@@Paul-lt8le Actually, it does work with the circlepad. I play it on my 3Ds all the time, so..
It's far easier too. I find it to be way smoother, and tend to forget the D-Pad exists lol
Wario gets less damage from everything but falling. He makes more damage to pretty much any enemy and Boss, which means you only need to hit certain Mini-Bosses like Boos only twice instead if 3 times :)
And he can pick up signs. Just punch the back.
"He makes more damage to any enemy and boss"
......... I can't understand a word you just said in that sentence :0
@@PotatoSoupThe64th stupid
He's also slower and jumps lower than everyone else so it's easier to get hit as well.
Did you watch the video?
I'm glad that someone is finally giving super Mario 64 ds some much needed respect
Now if theycould just give us some more hacks/more talented rom hackers to make hacks it will be a job well done
If I’m going to be honest the ds mario games are underrated, with the exception of mkds. Nsmbds is seen to most people as just another new super Mario bros game, no one talks about mario party ds and almost no one I’ve talked to has heard of mario vs donkey Kong 2 march of the minis, it had a level editor like super Mario maker.
Bingobo 25 Yeah, but Mario vs Donkey Kong 2 was kind of lame compared to the original on the GBA.
@@bingobo2551 1) NSMB was underwhelming and played it too safe
2) Mario vs Donkey Kong 2 was a letdown when the minis took control of the series. I want more Mario, not the mini toys.
Personally I loved partners in time I sunk a lot of hours into it but sm64 ds will always be my favourite
I’m just lucky I grew up nostalgic for the DS remake meaning that this was my always preferred choice.
kingvideogames I bought my N64 DS cartridge in junior high school from my friend and I enjoyed it a lot. Haven't tried the original yet though but maybe I should just to see if I really agree with all of these views on this video by having authentic gaming experince of both.
Edit: Probably I should have an authentic N64 controller to justify my experience instead of emulator. I should ask from a friend to loan his retro N64 if he has SM64 on it.
Here's hoping we'll get to see a Legend of Zelda: Links Awakening (GB/GBC/SWITCH) Remake or ReBreak episode in the future.
Yeah
Link's Awakening Switch is such an obvious rebreak. Yeah sure, target 60 fps but constantly constantly _constantly_ drop to 30 fps or lower. Goddamn unplayable. Put the Switch version in the trash where it belongs and stick to the GameBoy versions.
mjc0961 sorry, I’m too busy having more buttons for my items. Fucking elitist trash
You got your wish
mjc0961 so the fps sucks, you like to be picky about something not too noticeable huh, huh?
Wow, the ending to this Remake or Rebreak shocked me. I expected at most a "Remake" but mostly expected "Re-Meh", and I was pleasantly shocked, since the DS remake is one of my favorite Mario games of all time.
I agree. It's in my Top 3 Mario games up with NSMB ds and Super Mario Odyssey.
yeah, this game was my childhood i love it
64 DS has incredible extra content, and it really outdid itself with that. I would've marked it as remake instead of remake, because it doesn't feel as fluid, control wise.
@@TheAbsol7448 It's a learning curve like learning to ride a bike again.
@@animatorbroman3710 I've 100%ed the game and played it from beginning to end a second time. It still felt pretty bad too control, though the circle pad really helps with diagonal movement.
Welp, here it is. Now the meme can finally be laid to rest. Enjoy!
Where is the Star Fox 64 ROR?
Finally that took forever and DON'T EVEN TALK ABOUT I HATE MEMES I HAVE ENOUGH FROM FTCR (Find The Computer Room) THANK GOODNESS MEMES ARE DEAD. wait what meme Exo?
ExoParadigmGamer could you play link's awakening on the channel? i don't know if the dx version is enough for a ROR but maybe you could just do a review
Alrik Karlsson
Link's Awakening DX is really just a GBC port with fixed glitches.
ExoParadigmGamer good thing you didn't look at EVERY detail because it would turn into a 3 hour video and trust me there is a 3 hour long video about the difference between 64 and DS
7:20
Exo 2017: "Ladies and gentlemen, the meme is oficially dead."
2020, 3D All Stars: "Hold my polygons."
Everyone: collectathons are a dead genre
Super Mario Odyssey: haha power moons go brrrrrrrr
for me when you're kicked out the level after completing a star, it makes me get a sense of completion. instead of a sense of going from point a to point b.
Michael 7 always felt the same way, was never bothered by getting kicked out, never crossed my mind
even back in the 2000s i complained abt mario 64 kicking you out of the stage for every star other than 100 coin star while other games don't
If the 100 coin star was either A) not in the game or B) like the other stars I'd agree with this comment
Still doesn't excuse it.
Thats it that’s why I don’t like odyssey
By the way; one last thing of note. I recorded the N64 version off of the original hardware with S-Video, so I played the game with the original controller. I played a little bit of the Wii U port just to show it off for the review, and I swear the controls feel worse than they do on the original hardware. If your only exposure to the N64 controls is through Virtual Console, that could possibly explain any difficulties you might have with them.
ExoParadigmGamer Are you exited for Super Mario Odyssey?
ExoParadigmGamer The Wii U issues are due to a weird thing with controller dead zones, it makes F-Zero X pretty much unplayable unfortunately
Wii U version not only has bad controller deadzones, but Wii U VC has an awful input delay that ruins NES, SNES, and N64 VC games and makes them borderline unplayable. This lag is not present in Wii VC games, even when played on Wii U (just in case anyone was planning to tell me it's just my TV causing lag, it's not).
I did some testing and the Wii U VC version of all N64 games have some noticeable input lag. Its pretty minor, and for someone like me its easy to adjust too, but I can imagine it being a nightmare for others.
Definitely depends on the game too. I actually quite enjoyed Mario 64 on there, but F-Zero was just ridiculous without those. I've complete FAST Racing Neo 100% and beaten most of F-Zero GX, and F-Zero X was borderline unplayable as the attack command wouldn't really work and you couldn't make any kind of subtle steering adjustments. Quite a shame too, because it looks much better than even playing on my CRT
Who else is here because of the new Super Mario 3D All Stars Collection?
I feel like ExoParadigmGamer would give the following ratings per game:
Super Mario 64: Reprise
Super Mario Sunshine: -Remake- (Edit: Remaster)
Super Mario Galaxy: Remake
I wish 3D All Stars at least had the DS version included alongside the original 😩
@@gaben9224 But that would raise the price. Also, the fact that Super Mario 64 is an old and outdated game feels like a $20 game, and 3 $20 games equal $60. Plus, Nintendo would be forced to make a new accessory for the Nintendo Switch for two screens gameplay. And each game is supposed to work on the TV. How would the touch screen parts work on the Nintendo Switch if there's only one screen? And also, there are mini-games which would be too much for a remaster collection.
So lame that this game is not even getting widescreen on 3D All Stars. 😞
Diego Lozano for real I love Nintendo so much but I HATE THEM they don’t care about us or putting in some effort fans made such an amazing remake HD and everything and they don’t have billions of dollars
I'll admit, playing it now on the Switch the game is showing it's age and it feels antiquated. The camera is driving me nuts. I had way too many "d'oh" deaths because of it. Maybe I will revisit the 3DS version after playing through the original on the Switch. Maybe one day we'll get another remake of the game with better graphics, camera, and controls.
@Cameron Douglas The game is literally made to be on 3DS, it just plays better
I think the controls are very good you just need to get better
@@Jbswe Of course that's the #1 Excuse to defend bad/dated game design
@@PeruvianPotato How does it play better on 3DS?
Sure, the circle pad is a thing but it's just emulating the dpad in DS mode.
@@projectzx471 its probably due to the much better camera system, and the original game having analog support still has remnants in the DS version despite the D pad
I'm surprised we never got a Super Mario Sunshine remake on 3DS. The absence just feels wrong
nah that just wouldnt feel right put it on the switch
Instead, we got Dark Moon
45:43 he mentions pointlessness while taking off the top of the pyramid. I see what you did there ;)
Really, Michael; was that a coincidence?
The best part about the Rabbits is that you can be in the middle of doing something, and all of a sudden you see the glowing rabbit, and you just HAVE to get it before your bus gets to school..
“Collectathons are all but dead” 2017 before Odyssey was a sad time
(Before Super Mario Odyssey) Star Coins: "Allow me to introduce ourselves."
Bruh Super Mario Star Road is the bomb diggity, but it's only made for those that have mastered Mario 64 controls
fancy seeing you here :)
Nathaniel Bandy So... It's for nobody, then
You would be surprised how many people are insanely good at Mario 64
Nathaniel Bandy I would say I am, and I'm pretty good at the hacks. Not insanely good, but I know how to control well.
Rush number 3
A way to make the controls better if you don't like it, 3DS Circle Pad. Works amazingly well
dude, same
or gwet it on wii u, has a perfect control scheme.
I disagree. I've tried using the 3DS circle pad. Moving it around when wanting to turn either doesn't do anything other than walk forward or activates the diagonal input and I can't tell when that transition is made because it's a circle pad. I'd honestly just much rather use the D-pad.
Matthew Glavosek but super mario 64 ds doesn't work on 3ds
atleast on my new 3ds xl
Matthew Glavosek no it works
The cool part about these videos is you are completely unbiased and looks at the positives and negatives of everything. Addressing both sides of each game, it is hard to think of a reviewer that does that as well as you do EXO Gamer.
Congrats!
3:17 - “This should be my longest video ever!”
Description - “The longest Remake Or Rebreak episode to date”
[BANJO-TOOIE HAS ENTERED CHAT]
Honestly I remember the controls working perfectly, I can boot this game up if anyone wants to challenge that but I think they did a great job implementing the D-pad.
Same. The shoulder buttons, abyx, and d pad worked great for me. I just didn't like that I had to quickly removed my right thumb from the abyx to turn the camera
I agree with everything you say in this video, the ds port is a masterpiece and and impresive work. Fuck its one of my favorite games of all time.
Sr Nigromante in the top 10 for me
Dude, this is like a movie! Great job on this!
What a great video! Holy shit man this was so in depth yet interesting and it was structured so well I only meant to watch for a bit and ended up watching the entire thing in 1 go
His star road footage looks like it was recorded off of a real n64 and that still amazes me
This is longer than the Sonic OVA
To play SM64 DS better play on the 3ds
bananabus21721 Or on PC with an Xbox 360 controller.
Unfortunately I don't have the accessories to use wireless Xbox 360 controller in Windows.
I don't use wireless, i HATE wireless controllers they're a pain in the ass dying all the time, i have a wired Xbox 360 controller and all you do is plug and play.
bananabus21721 rechargeable batteries bitch
Whoa chill you called him a bitch don't act very mean t other people unlike me i'm trying my best to not be mean but sometimes it brings it out :/
It’s feels great to see one of my favorite youtubers praising my first Nintendo Game
55:07 "Retro appeal is personalized"
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WagnarokGameReviews I don’t get it
I prefer the DS version, the N64 still good but I can't stand the camera.
I prefer the N64 version, the DS still good but I can't stand the graphics.
groszak1 eeeh, they weren't that bad and acutally the colors were less annoying and the character models were better
Well, I think N64 graphics are better and I'm allowed to have a different opinion than you.
groszak1 ... I'm not attacking I'm sharing an opinion too.
groszak1 -this conversation is getting dumb I'm out-
You never cease to amaze me with your scripting and editing. Good work man.
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64 DS was so fun to play when I was a kid. The kids at this daycare I went to had a copy and I remember we would all play multi-player, glitching to enter the cannon and just have a good time chilling on the roof
I played it on my Nintendo 3ds and it was so amazing! I love the remake and the original. This is one of my favorite games of all time!
GOD DAMN A HOUR LONG I am so excited to Bing watch this
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I can't wait to Yahoo watch this as well!
Cirno I'm google watching this ASAP!
Pierre Padilla is Anyone else going to Ask.com watch this?
The Do-It-All same
Pierre Padilla I'm so excited to finally Yahoo watch it!
Like the 3D Sonic games of old and new, Mario 64 and other Mario games like it prove that there are different ways to enjoy a series regardless of origin or reception. Thank you for clearing that up man. You really are one of my favorite reviewers on TH-cam. :)
knucklehead 198 What I like all mega men except Starforce we don't talk about him -_-
The Mega Man fanbase is ruled by retrofags. Any new game would need to be "8-bit" and play exactly like the first two.
Strangely I’ve always found the DS controls to be easier than the N64
So did I
@@gameomer1855 lol ye i think its bc i prefer camera controls
@@Swgstve I'm playing both versions back to back and I wanna tell you that both the camera and the controls are much better in the DS version than in the original
"A glaring case of Star Fox Zeroitis"
Thank you! People will swear up and down that Star Fox Zero has horrible controls that make the game unplayable. Absolutely not true! If you actually take the time to learn how to use the new control scheme, and pay attention to the tutorials that the game kindly gives you (including the challenges that allow you to further familiarize with the controls), you'll be getting every medal and beating the game to completion in no time! Are the controls perfect? Definitely not, I can see why some people would have issues, but they aren't as bad as people like to claim that they are.
I got the hang of the controls during the tutorial that the game immediately throws the player into. Not only did I pay attention, but I also went in with an open mind (and I was well aware of the different controls before the game came out thanks to Treehouse Live, as well as other videos that covered the game before launch). I got all 70 medals in the game, even though I'm _far_ from the best player, and I enjoyed every second of it. Sector Omega is still a thrill ride, definitely my favorite level!
Star Fox Zero is my favorite Star Fox game of all time, and that's not going to change any time soon.
The problem, I think, isn't the controls, but the NUMBER of controls. There are too many ships/forms. Just one is overwhelming, let alone six...
As someone who recently replayed the game in anticipation of odyssey, I recommend to anyone playing on the DS cartridge to use a 3ds if you have one. Even with my broken circle pad, the controls felt better, even for me, someone who has never touched the N64 version in their life. It's a great game though, and I only need one reason. It's just fun.
It really doesn't
As someone who just tested this with a DS lite and then a new 3DS... it's not that much different. I would say it is an improvement but not overly worth it
Even when playing this game on the 3DS, I still use the d-pad to control the game.
Jaden Coucopoulos same
Someone finally agrees with me on Star Road. The game is cool but the level design does not match the flawed controls. I only got partway through before I gave up.
Glad I'm not the only person that didn't have a problem with D-pad controls. The way I've heard other people talk about them as if they were unplayable almost unanimously over the course of years, I was beginning to think I was crazy.
As much as I love the N64 version, I will always love the DS one the most since I grew up with it
I love that sm64 ds is more modernized. It has a different model for Bowser, boos, and thwomps, which makes it look more modern similarly to modern Mario games unlike sm64, which has models that look a little wierd
Bowser looks kinda ugly in the N64 version xD
And Boo looked kinda creepy now he looks more cute :3
Knowing about Super Mario odyssey I believe that collectathons may be coming back seeing as yes, odyssey has a story that requires point A to B and off to the net kingdom. But when you return to the kingdoms. You get tons of moons and purple coins to grab. And Nintendo knows they are going back to SM64’s gameplay style. Seeing as they implemented loads of Easter eggs in odyssey and even requirements to find these references. So I am happy that we are going back to its roots in SM64
Night City sm64 ds does have a weird control system but it doesn’t break the game
Nintendo Fan Network I'd disagree. I've died so many times due to the controls that I find it unbearable.
its realy a get used to it kind of thing. They just feel different, but once you get used to it, its fine. (I use the D-Pad mode, the pen mode is precise, but its a bit weird)
I honestly don’t mind the controls in Mario 64 DS. In fact I’m so used to them since I grew up with the game & it has a much better camera
NFN//NintendoFanNetwork 2018 However, most of those extra moons are just fillers because they are just simple objectives that come out of nowhere in close proximity to each other.
I did not expect a positive review of SM64DS, Im gladly surprised it is the case!
Super Mario 64 Ds deserves some kind of re release someday.
I gotta say, growing up on the DS version, it's really hard to go back to 64 version.
The D-Pad is such a controversy, and it really shouldn't be.
+Noah & Toad That's my own personal experience, too.
+Noah&Toad IKR. The D-pad wasn't much of a deal and if u wanted a better control, get a 3ds
Noah & Toad why does everyone hate the d pad it was perfectly fine.Growing up it was great control and it still is good
I disagree, The game controls feels completely broken when played side by side with the 64, The 3DS circle pad does nothing....Still digital input. I would prefer this version if it weren't for the controls.
xNinja83x its not like the original controls good
Full disclaimer: I've never played Super Mario 64 on the original N64 Hardware, so I have no nostalgia bias. (Sue me.) That means the DS version is the only one I've actually experienced (and even completed).
That being said: The controls were shyte. They were horrendously imprecise, especially for slow movement on thin walkways. The D-pad was clunky as hell and while the touch controls felt more smooth, they also had a will of their own, ignoring input ever so often or occasionally going into directions I didn't tell them to. I played other 3D action games and platformers on the same system and while I always noticed the limitations of the hardware, it never felt this bad. While Nintendo probably did the best they could given the circumstances, this is a game that probably should never have released on a system without a circle pad. Playing the 3D remasters of Ocarina of Time and Majoras Mask makes me wonder how much better this game could have been, had they waited one more generation.
Another thing I noticed is your response to the claim that the original had bad controls. Now, again, I've never played the original, so I don't know if it does or doesn't, but your response basically boils down to "It could be worse" while showing inferior(?) Mario romhacks. "It could be worse" is never an argument. I could show you dozens of games with bad controls that could easily be made even worse, but that doesn't absolve them from their faults. Once again, I don't claim that Mario 64 HAS bad controls, because I don't know. I just feel that the argumentation is flawed...
All I all, I still enjoyed your video. Having no experience with the original, I don't know if I'd agree with the verdict or not, but it was an interesting insight nonetheless. Keep up the good work.
ILoveBees That's interesting, because once I got used to it, I had absolutely no problem mastering the DS game using the D-pad. It wasn't perfect, but I certainly wouldn't call it shit.
Play it on the 3DS, the circle pad is much smoother than the d-pad and touch controls
ILoveBees you master the control not complain about it
When I push a button and the game moves me in a completely different, random direction (or occasionally doesn't react at all), there's nothing to master about it. You can only pray to RNGesus...
ILoveBees Random directions? Maybe your DS is broken? Like I said, I had no problem mastering the controls. It took a little time, sure, mostly because I kept switching between the D-pad and stylus control schemes to figure out which I liked best. Just git gud, bro.
I grew up playing the DS Version. Honestly it's my favourite Nintendo game out there!
Wait this was an hour long? I watched the whole thing and it felt like 20 minutes! That's how you know your content is good.
As an unabashed lover of portable gaming over home console gaming, Luigi being playable, the DS, collectathons that do not go overboard with the collection part, Super Mario 64 itself, portable remakes of home console games and such, _I find the tears of the Super Mario 64 DS haters _*_utterly delicious._*
Mmmm yum
This highly anticipated ROR video is amazing! Not only is it a great analysis of the games, you detail so many things. not only that, I agree with everything you said, and you made me like SM64 DS even more! Great job man, and definitely a great video. You are one of the best video game reviewers ever, right next to Somecallmejohnny. Nice job.
I mostly agree on the DS controls, they did whatever they could, but for me it still doesn't feel as good, mostly because of the run and dive buttons. In 3D Land it's no issue to hold the run button all the time because there isn't a third main button that you have to use, but in SM64 DS it's very awkward to switch from the run button to the dive button (Y to A). For this reason I punch and dive way less here than on the N64 which is a shame because in the original it's one of the most satisfying moves to do.
To my knowledge you can still dive with Y... as well as B
The only problem with Sm64 controls that I can think of is stuttering on ledges. When you stand on the edges Mario will be in this state of both falling off and falling on the ledge. It's a horrible experience but it doesn't happen often
Super Mario 64 DS was my childhood
Me too
Yep I actually thought ds was the original until I heard it wasn't awhile ago 😂😂
Kyle Mccoid relatable
Me too, Im from 2001
Video starts at 3:30. Thank me later.
Thank
thanks fam
Bibasik7 ily bb
Bibasik7 It actually starts at 0:00
+Gamebomber1 TV2
The reason why ppl clicked on this video is to see a comparison between both SM64s. And that does not start until 3:30
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Love your Channel mate I am a great retro fan & watching your shows got me to reply games I forgot about thanks keep up the great work
I prefer the N64 original, HOWEVER it's purely out of retro appeal and nostalgia. Mario 64 is a game close to my heart, but it hasn't aged well, it needed the remake it got, I would even say it deserved that remake. Mario 64DS stands as an excellent game in its own right, and while I don't love every change it made, it is a must own title for any platformer enthusiast.
Always look forward to your videos, dood, keep up the great work
Micaiah the Otaku Gamer [HybridAngelZero] as he said just because the ds version is better it doesnt mean you cant have fun with the original
Micaiah the Otaku Gamer [HybridAngelZero] nostalgia fans are the worst, cancer of gaming
I love how you admit you love the original because of nostalgia, just like I'd probaly not connect with the OG as much because I have nostalgia for the remake.
Admittedly. I've been waiting for this since the day I noticed your vids. And it looks like the wait was definitely worth it
sm64 ds works great on the 3ds in my opinion. You can still feel problems, but less.
"collectathons or however you spell it are no longer mainstream" super mario oddysey brought collectathons back to mainstream.
And then they died again
Me: why is this an hour long?
Also me: *one hour later* Well I watched the whole thing 😂
Primal Fear 1 year later : you have no comments.
Why is your name Kyle S now
Do ya'll have nothing better to do? Leave me alone. Thanks
Kyle S you posted here, just delete the comment and then no one will say anything lol
Cheeseboi so let me make sure I have this right. I have someone who is stalking/harassing me about changing my name on MY account and the solution is for me to delete the comment? How about you get better as a person instead so that this kind of thing doesn't happen again.
I grew up with super mario galaxy and I have no problem with SM64's controls they feel smooth and fun
Ye
Wolfey GD yeah, it felt fine when I played sm64 for the first time...I bought it at a farmer's market
Wolfey GD same
I grew up with super mario 64
I wish the DS defaulted to run and press to walk... makes more sense to me...
Kind of like HGSS
I love your videos they are very good at Critically analyzing these games. I hope you do it again for the Mario 3D all stars
I agree, I love this over the original
Edit: wow 100+ likes? Thats the most likes I have ever gotten on a camera.
origonal
I feel like the opinion of someone that can't spell "original" should be taken with a grain of salt...
its a typo idiot look on your keyboard.. the O is right next to the I
SoulEater Evans it was a typo, my device loves to autocorrect even my correct spellings
Sword it looks better on the 3ds
I really don't mind the scripted speech (I actually like it). But unscripted stuff just feels more real
Ah, someone who appreciates that Star Fox Zero is a fun game. A man of taste
I never imagined you'd put this much research into covering a comparison like this. Great review.
If by chance you plan on doing more Remake or Rebreak reviews how about reviewing Resident Evil 1 for PS1 and the gamecube/HD remake. It deserves to be reviewed it's an amazing remake.