ROR: Conker's Bad Fur Day (N64) Vs. Conker Live and Reloaded (Xbox) + Rare Replay (Xbox One)
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- Christ, it really took me five months to make another of these?
Welcome back to Remake or Rebreak at last. The next videos on the review channel will also be ROR episodes, and the next one should be (but likely won't be) a simpler episode to produce.
Remake or Rebreak is a segment where I examine the classics of the past and compare them with subsequent significant rereleases to see whether they hold up today, with a special emphasis on whether and how well those releleases improve upon the original experience.
Today, we're looking at Conker's Bad Fur Day and Conker Live and Reloaded on the Xbox. Based on the beloved classic on N64, the Xbox remake has been largely panned by the gaming community. As always, I offer an in-depth examination of both versions to arrive at an answer.
Also, yes, I do briefly discuss the version of Conker's Bad Fur Day featured in Rare Replay. There's not nearly as much to say about that one.
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Remake or Rebreak Scores:
1- Rebreak: Fails to resurrect the same quality standard as the original due to incompetent design, technical failures, etc. A virtually worthless remake/port overall.
2- Re-Meh: Not as good as the original, but a relatively competent recreation that is still very playable. Additionally, a Re-Meh may not address the original's salient issues or fail to add anything meaningful.
3- Remake: As good or even slightly better than the original, but not necessarily worth playing if you already own that version. Typically adds some new content or fixes salient issues with the original.
4- Replace: A remake/port that changes, fixes, and adds so much that it renders the original virtually obsolete. A Replace not only faithfully recreates the original, but fixes most (if not all) of the original's issues and adds a sizable amount of new content. - เกม
Warning: Conker's Bad Fur Day contains Mature Humor!
*There is a boss entirely had out of shit in the game.*
papa elf lmao
I will throw *SHIT* at youuuuuuu
No, it's made out of *beep*
The Remake butchered the song
Contains (im)mature humor
One of the reasons people were upset with the censoring is because during the remakes development the original plan was to release the game completely uncensored. For those that were anticipating the remake Rare had teased there was some disappointment to deal with upon release. The original subtitle was even Conker: Live & Uncut before they changed it to Live & Reloaded
thats the most pathetic and biased excuse ever.
@@lockout8308 shut up dweeb
@@Sonicfoxtrot good one nintendrone
@@lockout8308 personally I'm sick of censorship. Also the cursing was one of the important things that separated it from other games.
@@DR--- lol
"The soundtrack is also quite impressive for an N64 game"
[music made out of fart sounds plays in the background]
Iiii am
The grrreat mighty poo
You know which other impressive soundtrack made of fart sounds also played in the background of ExoParadigmGamer’s channel???
The theme song of the massively under-popularized Whiny Bitch Gamer!!!!!
m.th-cam.com/play/PLmu3hhmRiEwFYNrhllplP0dlCeDofCrnV.html
One of the funniest comments I’ve ever seen on TH-cam
You’ve never heard “rock hard” theme for that game
Timestamps:
0:15 Intro (Live-Action)
2:43 Intro
7:37 Story
10:59 N64 Presentation
13:40 Xbox Presentation
22:14 Gameplay
26:24 Bosses
27:02 Mechanics
28:26 Shooting Controls
30:30 It's War
32:30 Xbox Differences
34:41 Xbox Controls
37:59 Other Changes
38:36 Censorship
43:34 Multiplayer & Chapter X
45:02 Rare Replay Port
47:15 Original CBFD Thoughts (SPOILERS END)
50:05 Remake or Rebreak?
53:57 Outro
Having timestamps are so much more useful.
The real hero
Thank you your a huge hero this needs more likes.
Dude really spent who knows how long making timestamps for a video that’s not even his
It's sad the guy who runs the channels not even smart enough todo this
19:24 You forgot “music differences”
The N64 version's multiplayer is "just there"?
WHAT???
Conker N64 multiplayer is the most diverse and very much fun to play, I put atleast a thousand hours in the multiplayer alone.
Best part of the game
Wow, it’s almost like people have DIFFERENT OPINIONS!!! Holy shit!
BFD's multiplayer was the better party game.
L&R's multiplayer was the better shooter.
Which is better depends on whether you prefer party games or full-on shooters. I know I put thousands of hours into L&R on dumbots and split-screen alone (never had XBL back in the day). Shit, I can still go back to it and have a blast to this day. Not to mention it looks gorgeous 15 years later, and if bleeps bothers people that much, you can literally turn them off in potty-mouth mode (for multiplayer). Guess that makes it the only Conker game where "fuck" isn't censored.
I remember playing countless rounds of Heist, Beach, and War with my brother and friends! With L&R I also remember playing MP a bunch, even in Xbox Live, but it wasn’t quite as memorable, but still a ton of fun
The N64 multiplayer took up my high school weekends 😄
Bouncing between Banjo Tooie, Goldeneye, Bomberman 64, Mario Kart, Pokemon Stadium, and Conker with my friends was so beautiful
Big same. Some of my favorite memories.
No smash bros or Mario parties? Those were essentials.
So jealous you had conkers as a kid I had to wait till I was a teen to buy a copy myself 😭 so thankful I had an uncle that had it so I could play it occasionally
@@kma4835 I definitely was not a kid lol. I was in high school when I finally got a used copy
@@ValorDucky Mario Party 2 yes! I didn't own Smash on n64 tho
I honestly was always amazed how they managed to get such a leap in graphical fidelity in just one generational leap
The last leap too
I don't like that the overall aesthetic of the remake is obviously mature and edgy. Conker 64 looked like Banjo. You could trick your mom into buying it for you. The remake plays great, but I miss that bit of charm.
Jake Tomlinson
Ok, stop replying to people that say they prefer it due to charm. People are allowed to have opinions. Just because you disagree doesn't mean they are "Autistic" as you say. The reason they say "Cartoonish" and "Charm" is because, despite the Mature nature of the game, keeping a cartoonish art style makes the gameplay more entertaining in my opinion. You could surely say Super Mario 64 DS is the superior version due to added stars and the extra features it provides, but that doesn't make people prefer it over the N64 version.
@Jake Tomlinson if you're older than 14 and typed this and your other comments out unironically, you need fucking help.
Yeah, I prefer the more vividly colourful graphics of the N64 original as well.
Apart from the cover how is the “obviously mature and edgy” when it’s just an hd version of the original?
@@unoriginallastname9363 Theres more darker shadows. They tried making Conker look less like a cartoon and more like some pseudo realistic character.
It tries to look so upto date that it looks outdated. The extra fuzzy furball looks TERRIBLE. And so many characters have this issue.
It just doesnt look like a cartoon anymore. It looks closer to Maximo
Gotta be honest, L&R looks amazing for the original Xbox, probably the best looking 6th gen game I've ever seen next to F-Zero GX
Lava racing and "it's war" are the most rage inducing parts imo. The hit detection was complete bullshit on the lava racing and the laser mines on "it's war" were impossible to avoid.
That’s because you’re not supposed to avoid them. You must hide behind Rodent to negate the explosion damage. The game should’ve explained that better
@@brancolt_ I don't think you and him are talking about the same lasers
@@XavielTH-cam Does it matter what lasers they're talking about? THEY ALL SUCK!! When they're not poorly explained, they're almost impossible to jump and hover past without clipping one of them and dying! I got so many Game Over's from those stupid lasers it's not even funny.
Thankfully that was the original. The remake's improved controls make it much easier to avoid them.
@@OfficialBulldozerStudios it does cause the mines where you have to hide behind rodent are way easier than regular red ones which you have evade manually. The original poster was referring to red ones. Pyramidie was talking about something else
Yeah. The lasers you have to jump and crawl past during the countdown is actually a huge jump in skill compared to the rest of the game. There's just about no room for error. If you hit a laser that's up high you fall down through the rest of them and it instantly kills you, not even any i-frames to speak of.
27:41 “the pissing mechanic“ well ok that’s was a sentence
Reminds me of Postal 2.
Gotta give you props for being one of the few people to actually defend live and reloaded.
Yeah the haters are starting to piss me off
Honestly, live and reloaded has its weird and glitchy moments, but it's the best looking version of the game, even though its been censored more than the original.
Cope harder, LNR is terrible
@@TheLakabanzaichrg I haven’t heard much objective reasons as to why
Seemed like live and reloaded was harder to me. Thought I'd never play it again after my N64 cartridge was stolen, with as expensive as they are. Glad this one came out even though emulation is out there now
the only censorship part that somewhat ruins anything is the beloved Great Mighty Poo song, and I have to agree on that part. but people say it's uncensored after first playthrough unlocked. other than that, I played the remake first since the original wasnt released in germany, while it was on XBox and I just got the X360 one year later, when I also got that game :D for like 10€ !
Uncensored after the first playthrough? I've never heard this!
Donovan H. The fact that the multiplayer is uncensored proves that the single players wasn’t censored for any “PC” reasons. It was done as a joke.
wdym with "PC" ?
WHAT! I have the original game and it has german text on it! The game released in Germany... what are you talking about? D:
nein das kam bei uns nicht offiziell raus, genauso wie Perfect Dark und Turok 3, Furryratchet
die Publisher haben die Spiele der USK nicht vorgelegt
bis heute dürfte Turok 3 ungeprüft geblieben sein da es kein Re-Release gab :p
deutsche Texte unter anderem auch für Österreich und Schweiz übrigens
I've always thought Live and Reloaded looked like a good remake and wondered why it was so hated besides the censoring, turns out there wasn't really any other reason. Also, I agree the graphics of both versions are amazing, they both pushed the limits of the respective systems they are on.
Anyway, this was a great review as always! I've seen people complain about how long your reviews are, but honestly, I personally like how in-depth you go and it's great that such in-depth reviews exist for those, such as me, who like that. Just felt like saying that.
People hate on the remake way more than necessary cuz it's a remake. The only minor complaints besides censorship are the load times(which aren't that long at all) and multi player is very different. But I still liked the multi player in the remake, and controls are way better.
There is also minor differences here and there, but I didn't really notice most, only when others point them out. You will most likely only notice if you are a reviewer that has to pay VERY close attention to everything. But I did notice that the soldiers eye falls out when electrocuted in the remake, which makes it funnier, lol. Also, when the mob boss is explaining how to get rid of the bomb, he says "take it up here" and it shows a picture of Berri's ass for like 2 seconds, and it's only 2 seconds, but makes it way funnier in the remake. Also the lack of electric eels was also noticeable in my first play through in the remake. That's the mainly the only differences I noticed the first time playing Live and Reloaded.
Well the other problem is that it was originally going to be called conker's bad fur day uncut edition and people thought it looked great and that it might uncensor absolutely every curse word used. But then it was changed to being even more censored than in the original to appeal to a younger audience. So because they did the exact opposite people weren't really going to be happy with it. So I'd say some of it was just down to bad advertising of the game. People don't like bait and switches even though for whatever reason that's becoming more and more common on PS3 and Xbox (from what I can tell). The biggest thing to look out for is a thing at the bottom saying "Not actual gameplay". As long as you have that in mind and potentially just see what people think of the game (people not companies) you probably won't end up buying a bad game. I'd go into more detail but this comment is already getting long.
MrKockNoker You’re forgetting one of the biggest reasons people hate the remake and that’s being it misses the point of the original’s existence. Conker’s Bad Fur Day is a game that relies on the fact that it appears to be a standard kiddie romp, with its friendly colors and cute characters, but is actually a raunchy comedy that’s extremely inappropriate. The remake however makes the game look muted and tame game so it surprises no one whenever it does something adult. Not only that, the animations look way less expressive than the N64s. Visually the remake fails which is a huge detriment to its downfall.
The actual reason is bc there was actually going to be a sequel called conkers other bad fur day. However Microsoft purchased Rare and canceled the sequel to make a remake
The combat controls were unresponsive and sections of the game were made easier.
"It's War" was one of my absolute favorite parts, especially in the remake. The teddiez and Conker actually have proper uniforms which improve the feel of the chapter to me. loved that section of the game, but I can see how the artificial difficulty due to a miserable control interface in the original is a call for annoyance.
Eh the costumes are shit honestly ruins the entire feeling of Conker suposed to be having a bad day and just wants to go home. NOTHING TO DO with playing dress up. Who the fuck dresses him anyway huh? The genral gets him naked just to play dress up
(may be a late comment) but yeah the remake certainly made it look better but i still think it's annoying at some parts
I really loved this game, supposedly the creator said there was gonna be a sequel called conker gets medieval.
It's a shame it was cancelled.
silverskeleton95 Never heard of Conker Gets Medieval. I've heard of Conkers Other Bad Day.
@@MrQuadro83it was gonna be a multiplayer game for the 360, wasn’t really a sequel, just a shooter
MS promised them they could continue doing games like they were, with a bigger budget, but once they signed MS = "access denied" to basically everything and anything they wanted to do, from a conker 2, to the next perfect dark, to a few others games already drafted, including some new stuff ready in the pipeline, but MS canned everything that didnt already have legal liabilities to release = why what they did release was all essentially below normal standards as MS forced them to cut corners to clean their tables and everything made new under MS very much = D grade, MS didnt buy Rare so they could make great games, it was a corporate tactic of buying and shutting down competition that was forcing and creating to much innovation and kept raising the bar to high and to fast = corporations hate this because they cant milk and recycle the same thing over and over = think COD series.
@@JINGWA64
Embrace, extend, extinguish 😔
I have been waiting for this one!!! Good work as always my friend!
Haedox I love the Unversed Podcast!
hey haedox what do you think of the conkers big reunion game from project spark?
Haedox If you & Exo wind up getting into a fight & end your friendship. Don't take two years to tell him that you want him to take down any & all videos referencing you like Jirhard's former friend is doing right now please. Regardless of my feelings towards you that are clear by this point. Regardless of if you're the sole reason I don't watch Unversed Cast. Regard of if you would do a rant if Mark Haynes were to announce that the Super Mario Bros Z reboot is cancelled. Because I think that's gonna happen if I'm being frank.
Haedox 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
Haedox know one cares
I think the dual analog shooting controls actually debuted with Alien: Resurrection for the PS1, which released in 2000 and was developed by Argonaut Software. Ironically, this control scheme got a big thumbs down by Gamespot at the time saying it was the games worse aspect
Yep lol
There was a game before wich used both analog stick before that. Ape escape
@@papytromblon I'm more specifically talking about dual analog controls for first/third person shooter games
@@ToYoVG Technically Medal of Honor from October 1999 was the first to have proper dual-analog controls for a FPS.
It’s a bit slow by modern standards but once you get the hang of it, it plays great.
Did you get that fact from a Larry Bundy video, because the way you worded that really remind me of one of his videos
51:47 heck in 2018 they added live and reloaded to the xbox one backwards compatibility program and the digital version is $10, so it's even more accessible now
THANK YOU!
You actually draw attention to how people shat on Live and Reloaded for very closed minded reasons and did not look at the bigger picture. I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought people were complaining too much.
I will admit the multiplayer in live and reloaded is controversial though. But I'm talking about the main single player
Personally I prefer the original over the reloaded.
The cartoony and simple design works well.
I dont like conker losing his white gloves and wearing shorts. I also dont like how they modernized his design.
Remake =/= modernize. That's also why I dont like the remakes for pokemon games. Because they change the era they're from when they had their own charm originally.
Look at Pokemon Pikachu/eevee over actual Pokemon Yellow. And I'm not talking about updating graphics or updating gaming mechanics. I'm talking about taking the original style and changing it for something closer to our time.
MAH FREEZE PEACH
MultiTarded fuck anyone who complains about censorship. You seem like a triggered conservative snowflake.
Rountree1985 Fuck anyone that supports censorship. You're the snowflakes for wanting everything to be sanitised and safe.
MrQuadro83 you are so mean to me... :,(
I've always wondered if the 2016 Ratchet & Clank would count for RoR considering it's half a remake and half a movie adaptation.
Just watch TheGamingBrit's video on that monstrosity.
A certified rebreak.
@@antman1001000 wait, people don’t like that game? I remember people loving it, including me.
@@toastytashe A lot of people including me because of the story find the Remake a farcry from the Original. It made the story a lot more generic and boring where it feels like no one put any actual effort in it.
It's a garbage remake, the humor in the original R&C and the overal relationship between Ratchet and Clank was amazing, they actually started to hate each other because Ratchet wants to defeat Quark after his betrayal on Umbris but Clank wants to get after Drek as fast as possible. Thus creating a tense moment between them in later cutscenes and I really liked that. The game felt more darker too, especially when you go to Orxon which is not an easy level to play and the overall presentation and to play as Clank which is very vulnerable on such a eerie place was absolutely amazing. The problem with the remake is that it's been made with the movie in mind which was a reimagined story making it feel more like an actual kids game, the movie was alright, but again the humor was toned down for kids. And not to mention the majority of planets from the original aren't in the remake. And reducing the RYNO thug to a midget matrix clown was just a fuck you for the true fans. I never forgive Insomniac for butchering their own masterpiece. Better avoid this trash and play the original, hopefully A Rift Apart will be a salvation.
While I don't hate the remake I still prefer the original version because, according to Chris Seavor, that's how the game was meant to be experienced. While the new graphics are gorgeous and I LOVE the arranged soundtrack (even more than the original), something doesn't feel right for me. Maybe it's because of animation and lyp-sync. It isn't as polished as the N64 version. Also, I don't like most of the character redesigns. The overall artstyle is pretty different.
Also, the game feels easier to me. And no, I'm not going into the censorship an deleted stuff.
Yes, and it was a LONG time ago in a game store.
I didn't played for more than 15 minutes, but I still remember the controls. They were fluid, but lighter than the original.
I did watched a entire playthrough of the game on YT however, and I didn't liked most of the changes.
It was around 2010 or something. I couldn't believe myself.
I was on a trip and they had some old games on display and Conker was on the original Xbox, surprisingly enough. It was on the start of the game, in the Windy chapter. Right after the first mission to get the beehive from the wasps. I don't have the original Xbox or the game, mind you. I only have the N64 cartridge.
They weren't selling the game, tough. But they had a lot of XB games for people to play.
They also had some arcade cabinets where I played some Street Fighter with a stranger.
I can't judge the remake tha much, since I played so little of it. The censorship doesn't bother me much, but I don't liked the way they simplified some quests and made the game easier.
If I could say something, is that I prefer the original N64 graphics because they have better animations and I prefer most of the original character designs. But the remake does look amazing for an XB game, as I've said in my TOP 10 N64 games.
Completely agree. I wish EPG went over the art direction more in this video as that alone can be a determiner to which version a person thinks is better. I am definitely in favor of the original's art style. Live & REloaded is too realistic and thus not nearly as charming. Also, the tediz redesign is hideous.
The whole point of the Tediz original design is that they we're supposed to be stuffed Teddy Bears.
Now they look like generic zombie bears. :/
Nintendofan012 Yes,i think basically the same about Conker N64 vs Xbox
I prefer the xbox version for one simple reason: no inverted controls
Just use the RareReplay version
To this day I AM still an inverted player because of playing CBFD N64 as a kid lol
Cough cough Banjo tooie aiming controls
Because of this game i am unable to play a game without inverted controls no joke with a controller
And then i got a pc and saved my sanity
@@westonforced-last-name-dis3560 i always use inverted controls as well because it used to be standard. never understood why it just suddenly switched, because non inverted was certainly possible back then too, inverted just felt better and more natural.
46:00 Holy shit, this might be the first time in 20 years I've heard someone reference that game without specifically looking for a video about it. One of my most nostalgic games ever.
Called it lol I didn’t even watch the vid but I guessed from your comment either get force gemininOR SPACE STATION CILICON VALLEY LOL2 really unknown games both pretty dam. Fun tho lol
I like some of the aesthetics and animations in the original more. Live and reloaded also has some weird differences like that one grass patch during the hive run doesnt slow you down removing the small bit of challenge that task had.
I might be alone in this, but the bleeping makes the dialogue more funny to me.
Swearing on its own isn't funny. Stuff like that stops being funny after you reach the age of 16
But the bleeping for some reason always gets a chuckle out of me. I can't really explain why, but it does to me
I dunno why but South Park was funny when bleeping too.
Literally the only part the bleeping harms is the great mighty poo song, it just breaks the tune of it. Even if they just left the 'twat' in and censored the 'shit' that would've preserved the integrity of the rhyme at least.
Its just less satisfying to listen to.
Every other instance of censored swearing doesn't do any harm though, and in some cases it's much funnier and more cartoony that fits with the aesthetic
The point about censorship is fair enough but they really shouldn't have messed with the Great Mighty Poo song, if censorship was _demanded_ they could have rewritten the lyrics slightly but as it stands the beeps are really grating and ruin an otherwise amazing song.
seems weird that they felt a need to censor something that released on nintendo many years earlier since sex and violence in entertainment has just grown increasingly more common and bold over the years. for example i remember hearing they threatened some of the friday the 13th movies with an x rating unless they cut the more violent scenes, now there is stuff 100 times worse and more realistic looking in rated r movies. hell there are probably a few pg13 movies more mature content than friday the 13th.
Fuck censorship it's next to dictator ship
Or an option to censor before starting the game?
This is capitalism. Everything has censorship. Commercialism itself is still a form of censorship, you produce the product with stipulations designed to fit mass appeal, condemn that behavior, don't glorify that, etc, and it's still a form of censorship. But I can guarantee you, no company is going to ignore commercialism. Commercialism, obscenity guidelines, these themes are too taboo in comparison to the other, this is presented too angry, too dark and violent and etc to etc. Ev-ery-thing is censored. In America, in France, in Russia, in Britain, in pretty much every modern country if not possibly all of them.
@the ghost of David Korresh no, no its not. Plenty of other games that are way worse. The fact that this game is rated M for mature but the targeted audience were teenagers. Theres your problem. If ratings had any meaning at all then knowing you are buying an M rated game should tell you all you need to know. Shits not ment for kids. I can point out multiple games that have worse nudity, worse language, worse references... i mean even the new title atomic heart has TONS of foul language. Its fuck this and fuck that.
And not only that but your "commercial sensorship" deal is flawed. They dont censor porn.... anymore. And what about TV shows that have soft ratings or no rating and show everything mentioned above plus some more...
Lets be honest, Live and Reloaded was a failed attempt to push conker on kids. That and the fact that during the time of live and reloaded came out, GTA was under HEAVY scrutiny for being to violent and vulgar. So maybe they were trying to seperate themselves from that hell-atious prosecution from the media. Just a thought.
Honestly, having played the original growing up, I think they did a phenomenal job on the remake and it doesnt bother me that they took a few creative liberties here and there. As a fan of the original, I wholeheartedly enjoy the remake and I think some people are just drunk on nostalgia and are too picky about the minor changes.
After playing Live and Reloaded, I agree.
I never played Conker back then until Rare Replay came out. I decided to grab L&R after seeing this video. And yeah, You and Exo pretty much explained it
I preferred the N64 original mostly because I will always take couch multiplayer over online one, still, I always felt Conker was a more fun game to watch than to play, so in these youtube days its better to look for a lets play.
I thought about saying this myself, because you're kind of right. I thought people would hate me even more, so I held off.
You gotta talk about all of the game Exo, its your job as a reviewer, and the multiplayer is significant even if it is a mostly single player game
Yeah I always thought conker been a movie type of game to be honest.
what i didn't like in the remake outside the censorship:
conker eyes no more look around and look a lot more dead.
some of the scene that use original sound has been changed (in the bank for example ) ,animation and effect can be strange and...that is it.
i kinda prefer the n64 one but it was hard to finish it,in the other hand i finished and enjoyed it a lot more on my xbox (360)
and it was really fun,but the cd of the game is really hard to run on my 360 but the n64 game still work.
just for this game i would love a xbox emulator (and maybe panzer dragoon orta)
Live and Reloaded had split screen dude, I have no idea don't what you guys are on about.
Funny thing about the censoring thing bit on the Xbox version is that in the multiplayer portion of the game there is a code to completely remove the censoring. ONLY on the multiplayer section. We are talking EVERY swear word.
I thought Live and Reloaded looked so good that it feels waaay beyond its time even looking like a current gen game.
For years i called it the xbox 360 remake cause i just assumed when i saw it that's what it was playing on. So crisp and beautiful
I bet they did that because "online interactions are not rated by ESRB"
I prefer the Xbox version more mainly because the controller.
That's not too surprising, since the N64 controller was rough around the edges. Even for the time.
I think if the controls were like the Xbox’s on NG4
Wilson 671 xbox has the worst remote thats why i play playstation
@@dothelukaszkillchain8036 they're really similar though. I used to primarily play Playstation for a long time but when I needed a game pad for pc using the xbox360 game pad wasnt bad at all it feels very similar.
EL STINKO the xbox remote is too Gigantic
I love Conker's Bad Fur Day. I wish Microsoft would do more with Conker, I know Master Chief is Xbox's mascot but I genuinely feel like Conker could've made a great mascot for the Xbox brand, or at the very least been up there with Master Chief as well kinda how Nintendo has Mario as the face of the brand but still has Link, Kirby, Donkey Kong, etc.
I'd love it if they remade Conker again, or just enhance port the Live and Reloaded version with updates. Even more modern graphics, while the art style looks great it's definitely dated now compared to modern games in a similar style like Crash 4 for example so a nice coat of HD paint would be nice, add real eyes to ALL characters and to appease all sides add a censor option in the options menu give us like 4 options, original N64 censorship, Live and Reloaded censorship, complete censorship if you want that for whatever reason, or as a first for the series no censorship at all and people can play however way they want. Also add skins for Conker, while I love the redesign in reloaded I wouldn't want that to be the only look Conker has so an option to play as the original Conker with the gloves within modern graphics would be awesome, they could even give him another skin that's retro Conker for the old school gamers.
Amazing episode as always
Why am I the first like and the first comment?
I would like to note that the timestamp to the end of the video leads to a spoiler light ROR verdict, not a spoiler free one. If you want to come into this game totally blind with no knowledge of gameplay or story, then skip this video. It's impossible to talk about these games without getting into some of the more shocking scenes or discussing surprise gameplay styles. Also, these two games were rated M for a reason, so exercise viewer discretion.
By the way, I do discuss the Rare Replay version later on in the video. Not too much to say about it, but I figured people would be asking about it.
Why don't you just pin this
Pin it, please
Pretty reasonable assessment overall. At the time, the Xbox one disappointed me as I kind of expected more/better though in retrospect, it's a pretty comprehensive remaster (especially considering what constitutes a definitive remaster these days). Obviously the graphics and controls are better in the remake however I still prefer the original. I just think the cruder, cartoon look of the original offers more humor for the OTT slapstick going on. I find the controls meh on both (worse on N64) but I can power through it in either version. I also prefer the audio in the original (especially the mad pitchfork battle).
ExoParadigmGamer As someone who considers Pac Man World a good game, I am curious to see your opinion on it.
This video came out at the perfect time, the let's play channel I co-run with my friend saw us gearing up for Conker and we were going to go with the Rare Replay version for the playthrough, but your in-depth review and analysis tipped us over to playing the Xbox Version and I feel we had a better playthrough for it. Thanks a lot, pal.
Project 64's editing of the controls is how I played the original. It actually worked really well on a Duelshock 3
It's a shame Rareware didn't upgrade the controls as it DOES work beautifully as I felt with the emulated controls. It's a missed opportunity
As someone who always heard about how good Conker’s Bad Fur Day was, I bought Live and Reloaded and enjoyed it immensely. I didn’t even really notice the censorship.
You're smart and open minded
You never played the original and best is why lol dont talk unless you know and you dont know
@@Nemissis4265 it really isn't that big of a deal. I played BFD first and live and reloaded is better in almost every way when it comes to gameplay, which is imo a bigger deal then censorship. I still like BFD's aesthetic more however.
I'm pretty sure people bias live and reloaded because it was promised to be FULLY uncensored, although that is pretty dumb, but the idea of giving a promise to a general public must have been really ticked them off.
Well, if you explicitly stated it would be uncensored and plenty of fans are handing out their hard earned money exactly because of that and then, you turn them down; these people will be pretty justified in feeling ripped off (and you seem to try to imply like they're not).
Not everyone looks for the same thing in a product, mind you.
I prefer Live and Reloaded. After playing it I can't go back to the original. All the gameplay changes just make it better.
Thank you! Over the last decade I have found myself laughing at *bleeps* much more than I have the actual cuss words. The 21st century has actually found a way to make cussing played out.
Bleeps in a video game is automatic funny 😂
Cussing is great for exploring why something is censored. I've found it's not what gets censored at all. So, fuckin have at it!
Microsoft made conker look great on the original xbox. When Microsoft invent the hololens, they made conker look weird.
Here's an ROR idea:
Rayman 2 (Dreamcast, though really any original version minus PS and GBC will do) vs. Rayman Revolution (PS2)
Rayman 3 vs. Rayman 3 HD
R3HD was quite a lazy port. So many fuck ups.
ThePreciseClimber What happened?
Since he wants to use his nodded N64 so much, probably that one.
ThePreciseClimber I didn’t have any problems with it
Megachamp That would be great
My friend told me once that when he first saw this game, he thought it was an Xbox one game...
It looks *THAT* good!
I wouldn't say Xbox ONE, but it could easily pass for a 360 title. Even now, the game looks absolutely amazing.
Yeah, I would say that's a problem of your friend.
Early 360 quality at best. Still impressive.
It’s too hazy
Nah, If I would see Live and Reloaded for the first time, I would think it would be like all the other people are saying in this reply section a early Xbox 360 game. The game isn't so detailed that it could pass as a Xbox One title. But, If I were actually to think that it was a One title, then I would think it would be a prototype or Beta...
What an excellent thorough review and comparison of these games. Thank you!!
Having never actually played Reloaded thanks to not owning an Original Xbox and just seen the cutscenes, I'm surprised at how many improvements there actually are for the remake.
I am glad that you mentioned how characters don't move their eyes because that and some animations being stiffer than the original make the remake less alive to me. An example you didn't mention is how The Great Mighty Poo doesn't move his eyes anymore, he did in the original plus his eyewhites were actually green however it was change to white & an unanimated texture in the remake.
However things like the remade music, modern controls and less-frustrating gameplay tweaks makes me view the remake in a higher regard than before. Thank you for helping me see the game in a different light. :)
StupidMarioBros1Fan You can play it on your 360.
You missed out on a lot if you didnt own an og xbox...
StupidMarioBros1Fan you can also get it one the Xbox One store
Yeet
xXLegacy not rlly to be honest
honestly the remake deserves a replace for the shooting controls alone.
Live & Reloaded's multiplayer was huge.
It was a big part of my childhood at this point.
This and Halo 2 were my biggest Xbox Live memories.
Alien Resurrection for PSX was one of the first games to use the dual analog (modern) control scheme
I thought most people preferred the original for the multiplayer. But bleeps? Really?
Zeno Salazar yes, it was dope, it had Chapter X like an extra story explaining things before amd after the story of the singleplayer campaign of conker, and it was totally offline ofcourse, it was something like battlefront 2( the original) capture objectives, defend positions, capture the flag, you had classes of squirrels /teddiz (sniper, Demolisher, sneeker, the flamethrower, grunt and skyjockey) and yeah thats why conker live and reloaded is way better than BFD N64 and just because it has some words censored and you have the nostalgia googles doesn't mean its a bad game
@@blakbear6528 in your opinion its better than bad Fur day, but doesn't mean it's true
Madara Uchiha In your opinion Bad Fur Day is better than Live and Reloaded, but that doesn't mean it's true
@@NNiffy I never said bad fur day is better, don't try to put words in my mouth
@@conversationtosaurusrex The quality of a game is subjective to the user.
Damn dude, you put a lot of effort into this video, you did an amazing job!
Although I prefer looking at N64 version because of the aesthetic of the game and the uncensorship (Reloaded has some beautiful graphics no lie), I understand your points. I've never personally played the game myself, but i'll take your word for it.
I also feel like the game's story really is more fun to watch than actually play imo.
Yeah, the game part of the game is definitely lacking
This is exactly what I wanted to hear! Loved the video. And it was perfectly made. Thank you so much !!
You did an amazing job on this video! Keep up the good work!
One thing I'm really sad no one talks about is how amazing the background art is and how it shows each area by moving the camera around. When I played it when I was younger and before knowing what each area is, I LOVED the background art and trying to guess what each area is
Goldeneye actually has dual-analog aiming, way back in 1997. It just requires you to use 2 controllers, but it is there in the options menu.
I loved this review man! It's been a while since I visited this channel and you never cease to amaze with the content you produce. Last time I watched one of your videos was maybe perhaps, around my Sophomore year of high school. Now it's my Senior year and I really remember why I love this channel to begin with. Hope you do well and keep making great content! 😁
Wow, I asked for this two years ago, damn this feels beautiful.
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The duel analog aiming scheme actually existed before the 6th generation of consoles. It it said to have originated in the Playstation 1 game Alien Resurrection developed by Argonaut games.
guess they may as well have had one game use the 2nd analog stick to show it did have a future purpose. they probably should have waited til the ps2 to design that controller, microsoft may not have even thought of it if not for the pointless dual shock 1 controller, that didn't even use it, giving them the idea.
I wished you went into more detail in multiplayer since thats what causes the biggest divide
exactly. the live and reloaded multiplayer is VASTLY inferior to the N64 multiplayer. that alone makes the n64 version worth playing over the xbox remake in some respects.
Stephen Weir It makes sense why he didn't talk about the multiplayer much, most people buy both games for the single player experience and some people don't have friends to play it with
No one gives a fuck about a shitty multiplayer mode from a 3D platforming game.
Rountree1985 Don't play it then troll
Stephen Weir Who the fuck is going to play multiplayer from a platformer game from 2001?? Even then, who the fuck is gonna tolerate the inverted controls/shit controller scheme? Unless you’re into playing with bots, single player is vastly more important.
Fun fact: Conker's design in Live and Reloaded is from the concept art of Conker's Other Bad Day, the cancelled sequel.
Great video. Be interesting to do a follow up taking an emulated version of the original into account; due to upresing and other additions the emulator can add.
Apparently there are codes when you emulate the n64 game that make it run at 60fps, fix framerate drops, and plays it in widescreen. With immediate save states and ability to speed up slower moments, it makes a huge difference to the original's playability.
I broke a 64 controller over those goddamn laser barriers.
I definitely prefer L&R personally, just for the controls. I actually just found out that it's now backwards compatible with Xbox One. Dug out my copy and popped it in last night.
I will say I have great memories of the original game's multiplayer. My friends would play Beach for the most part, taking turns as squirrels and bears. Was a lot of fun.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe another common complaint/criticism about the remake is that some areas in the game lack texture. The graphics in general are better, but the lack of detail and texture makes it look a little more flat/bland than the original. The Great Mighty Poo is a prime example of this. In the original, you can see all the walls moving with oozing patterns (which are also on the Great Mighty Poo's body), and it really looks legitimately like feces. Unfortunately the remake doesn't seem to have that, and the poop cave doesn't really look like poop all that much, and instead just looks more like a generic cave. The textures on the walls are flat, stiff and hardly move at all. The pool of diarrhea in the middle resembles feces more than anything else in the cave. The Great Mighty Poo looks like he's made of Playdough rather than feces due to the flat texture, and not to mention the inside of his mouth isn't greenish yellow like it was in the original, which partially eliminates the gross factor that he had in the original. If there's anything else I have to mention, the way his mouth moves is a little awkward, and like you said it looks like they just reused the motions/movements from the original game, which doesn't look as good on a more advanced console with better graphics. Also his eyes are stiff like you mentioned earlier in the video as well. The only thing I really liked about it was the song, his voice being deeper and more powerful in the remake was a nice touch, even though the echo effect was a bit distracting. Not to mention the bleeps cut off some of the rhymes and lyrics, which was the only time the censoring really seemed to bother me in the game.
I was already leaning toward Live & Reloaded because of the graphical improvements, but with all of the other improvements taken into account, that definitely solidifies my desire to play the remake over the original. Great work!
It's a REALLY good game. One of my favorites. I respect the original for what it is but after playing the remake with it's improved controls and GORGEOUS visuals I can't play the classic anymore. I was really disappointed they didn't include both in Rare Replay (although I don't even have an xbox one).
cd2220, Yeah, it just seems kind of silly. So much work was put into the remake, and they even use the art from the remake in the Rare Replay menu. But nope, instead we get an ultra high-res N64 game. It's weird because they used the updated version of Perfect Dark.
iownu92 you should play both
Play both or the rare replay version
@@cd2220 I'm glad at least the n64 version is in the rare replay. I prefer it over the l&r version both for level design and graphics. Fences on edges? Did osha have fit with the first game? And the goblins (I forget what they were called) are over used. And the fur is awful. What were they thinking? I'll admit the controls are a bit clunky but they're still easy to pick right up again even after all these years though that might be because I seem to be more highly adaptive as a gamer compared to others. I just got rare replay last night so I'm a quarter of the way through so far. I'll try to remember to give an update when I finish
Perfect timing. Finally had the opportunity to play the remake and I've gotta say, this has to be the only games I've played where the streamlined design was fully justified. I've never looked back at the original with nearly as much disdain as I did after completing each chapter of Live & Reloaded; each section of which reminded me just how tedious they were to get through in Bad Fur Day. Live & Reloaded may have been a slight missed opportunity overall but I must commend it for its stunning devotion to perfecting the framework of the original, creating the definitive way to experience the game for the first time and certainly, all over again for long time fans.
Overall, great remake and great review.
Oooh I am so glad you understand that RGB SCART and the XRGB-mini Framemeister is the hands down best way to play older non-HDMI games and consoles. So many other bigger gaming channels like Game Grumps just don't want to admit that there is finally a better alternative to their horrid S-video quality and giant CRT monstrosities they have to use.
The only use CRTs truly have now are light-gun games and ROB, things like that. I wish more people knew they could play their older games with the help of modern technology (60frames, proper scaling, RGB and HDMI) rather then then what they ignorantly call the "retro" way to play the games.
And yeah, on a side note, like no Nintendo console has built in RGB so honestly when you finally see how good the games look on a RBG modded system it's purely like experiencing the games in a brand new light.
I agree with you on most things, but for Nintendo while it's mostly true, the original SNES had RGB along with Pal Gamecube and Pal Wii, but yeah, I wish Nintendo made RGB more common, I had to mod my N64 for RGB. But now you can get RGB on a US Nintendo Gamecube with the GCHD Mk-II.
Thanks for this upload and keeping it spoiler free with the time stamps
Wow Great review! true gamer hands down. I appreciate your time I really do and thank you for reviewing it because I didn’t know which one to choose. I am subscribed now and I really like your video can’t wait for more!!
Great review! I actually played both versions back in the day. I bought the game for the N64 when it came out (for 170DM, which would be ca. 90€ today) and borrowed a friends XBOX when he got L&R to play that version. Unfortunately I lost my N64 copy in the early 2000s and just now decided to get the game again for N64. I have just finished my playthrough today and I can relate to all of your criticism when it comes to Conkers shortcomings in the gameplay section - despite all of my nostalgia for the game. And I also remember having a more "smooth" experience with L&R. I agree on your verdict 100%!
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I never understood that. Can anybody explain what Conker means there?
tarabaci I'm pretty sure it's a joke about how events trigger in video games after you walk or cross over a certain point in the game :0
tarabaci I always took it as a joke of the Hero's Journey type of story.
"CROSSING THE THRESHOLD. At the end of Act One, the hero commits to leaving the Ordinary World and entering a new region or condition with unfamiliar rules and values".
Torrie Starfrost Huh, I always thought it was some kind of vampire reference since they can't enter a house without being invited but the video game event makes more sense.
Because in scary movies or games with a boss the door always closes behind them
Since Count Batula is his ancestor, it hints Conker might be at least part vampire
Having the music comparisons play into each other is a fantastic touch!
the multiplayer on the N64 was the best part of this game. me and my friends played it so much
i am SO EXCITED for the pac man world ROR
ahbeef Nice to see you here too.
+ahbeef. yeah.
ahbeef but that game doesnt have a remake
The GBA game?
ExoParadigmGamer shoudnt a remake be something done with a more powerful console? That game is more like a demake!
55 minutes? Hoo boy... SomecallmeJohnny's probably looking at this and chuckling somewhere.
101supertails Johnny’s gonna see this and say hold my beer.
I dug the video man! I love in depth comparisons to see what i should buy!
Well done. I really enjoyed this review.
I came to this review years ago and saw that Exo recommended a blind playthrough. Cut to just now, I just got finished playing Conker's and wow. I can even describe what I had experienced.
"BUT MUH SWEAR WORDZ!!!"
Thank you for saying what needed to be said. I always hear that gameplay trumps all, but for some reason, this remake gets crapped on for the most trivial of reasons. Yes, I think that sucks, but it's not enough to dismiss an entire game, especially when the remake improves so much.
This game is all about it's foul language, violence, gross out humour, sexual content ect. Taking stuff out or censoring it defeats the whole point of the game.
_NeilPurcell This reminds me of the time TheMetalBlade5 made a Tokyo Mirage Sessions censorship rant. Which I find painfully boring & is something that I've only watched once. As a North American fan of his I feel insulted because I'm pretty sure he was gonna include the words "I don't think you should buy this game" It feels like he took a dump on his non European fans. But now he's also made a response to piss someone off (That person being MangaKamen) Which to me making a video just to piss someone off screams jumping the shark.
Neil Purcell but muh swear wordz
+Jake Tomlinson
Just stop. You’re embarrassing yourself.
Shrek The Ogre If you're 10, maybe
This was a fantastic comparison video. You're completely spot on in the quality of life improvements.
I've been getting back into Conker as a bit of a nostalgia trip. I'll even be singing sloprano (great mighty poo) at karaoke tomorrow!
Sadly, my N64 cartridge has been lost to time. Shame it's so expensive, I'd love to play the multiplayer again but I've just an Xbox 360 and N64.
Also, thank you for telling me about Xlink! I could honestly cry in catharsis knowing I can revisit this game properly.
You've even managed to tone down by frustration with the censorship. It's still annoying but you've made some valid points.
Really awesome and detailed review! I've been streaming the n64 version these past days lol
Nice ROR Exo! Excellent work!
Thank you for making this... I randomly just became very interested in Conker and this is exactly what I was looking for.
As great as N64 nostalgia is, it sounds like the remake is the way to go... too bad it doesn't have achievements.
No the retard has no idea what hes talking about. The 64 is THE only way to go lol you loosse about 40% of the game when playing that shit r tard and reloaded
great analysis. thanks for presenting live and reloaded honestly, that's the version i'm gonna go play.
I would say Conker is a great experience, but not a great game.
Unless we’re talkin Live and Reloaded, which just straight up looks like a good game.
just like red dead 2
Bs
@@allanmhanson I feel like the second half is pretty weak. The vampire stuff, the war and then the matrix stuff is not great, at least on repeat playthroughs.
Having said that, I changed my mind since that comment. It is a great game.
@@RyanPMJ4907 nah rdr2 it’s a good game 😂
"No more 50 minute reviews" Uh huh
What can I say? I die hard.
What I love about these reviews is that rather than getting a general sense of your opinion from the get go, the review swings from the positives to the negatives. And when it swings, it swings from high to low. I swear there was a point where I thought to myself "this must be like, his favorite game" but then the negatives just totally flip that on it's head and now I think you think Rare is just a room full of idiots. Then it gets to the conclusion and finally everything makes sense and I understand what your opinion is. Needless to say it's very entertaining.
The scrub has no credibility and is a retdard 🤣🤣🤣😂🤣. The original is the only way to play it. They waterd down and turnd it to shit. Tryd it again since its 5$ on xbox store and its still shit. Would rather set up my 64 and play in 720
The OG is definitely in my top fav ov all time, coming home after high school for about 6 hours for about 6 months straight with my friends playing multiplayer, the best moments and memories for me. Dude, thanks so much for covering this game, I feel the remake has its things as well as the OG, although OG is weird at times, my personal opinion is that it's better.
the nostalgia for me growing up was that I was around 5 or 6 when the N64 came out, and our parents didn't understand the rating system so.... this game was totally awesome ^_^
you should ROR on Metroid Other M. Personally I think that The original, Metroid Fusion, is better.
LOL Nice one.
Kongu_ Inika Damn, now thats a roast you need a Varia Suit to survive. ...If it's authorized.
Hey, I'm going to be frankly honest with you. Yes, it is "upgraded" graphically but to me the original is actually more visually pleasing.
And also as an artist, I hate censorship in any artistic medium no matter what it is censoring. Why? Because I know I wouldn't want my art censored. That's my problem, I will always have a problem with something being censored.
AParts/heart-of-a-dragoness tell that to SJWs...
Suprisingly thorough and well done
This is my first video I watched. I never played the remake. But I loved the original and you made points for the remake that I haven’t played. It’s been like 17 years that this game was brought to my mind. It would be nice to see an official new game then add on to the game besides the little tid bits seen lately.
Great review! Had heard of Live and Reloaded but didn't know it was a straight up remake of the original N64 version, so thanks for pointing out the differences.
Will definitely be getting Live and Reloaded on Xbox One when it becomes available later this month.
Josh Armstrong If you get the XBOX remake, I recommend Xlink Kai for online play.
I'm not sure how hard it'd be to capture PSP footage but Mega Man vs. Mega Man Powered Up would be cool. Great videos, by the way.
ethan PPSSPP.
Not hard at all if he’s using any psp but the original one. The psp 2000 and up including the Go have a video output port on the bottom. All he needs is an av cable out for capture to send to his framemeister.
This review still holds true, and I’ve had the same opinion for the same reasons you’ve listed. One small thing though: in regards to the objective takedowns in ChapterX, upgraded Demolisher’s chaingun and upgraded Thermophile’s laserbeam are MUCH more effective for pretty much all objective takedowns (took a while to find that one out myself, but the time to complete goes down SIGNIFICANTLY using those). A clip from either one will deal over a third of the objective’s HP, close to half with the laserbeam. They still take a beating for sure, but the class strategy definitely has a place there.
Hey. This video was really really great, you could tell how much work you put into it. I’mmma sub (:
There are a few things about the censorship that I noticed you didn't address. Likely since the info has, at this point, gone by the wayside. I don't think it's necessarily just the additional bleeps over the swear words that had people upset. It was due to the fact that the original version of Live and Reloaded was meant to be called "Live and Uncut." While it eventually dropped the "Uncut" aspect for whatever reason, I believe people still assumed they'd at least get the same amount of swearing as the N64 version. But finding out it was not only NOT uncut, but censored even more despite the possibility of being fully uncensored at one time, it's likely the reason people were up in arms.
One more thing worth mentioning on this subject, since the multiplayer in Live and Reloaded didn't tickle your fancy, is that finishing the story mode would unlock "Potty Mouth" mode in the online multiplayer. The result of this was fully uncensored swearing, including liberal use of the word "fuck" for the first time in the series. While I can't speak for the rest of the fans, finding this out as a kid was one of the reasons the remake irked me. They managed to work in uncut swearing in one manner, yet made it even less prominent in another. It was more the inconsistency that bugged me than the lack of curse words. The only reason I can think of, as you stated in the video, is that they simply found the bleeps funnier upon a second glance and didn't expect the backlash.
I must say though, I do fully agree that it doesn't hamper the experience of the remake and it's almost entirely the superior version. Sadly I only own a boxed copy of the N64 version and Rare Replay, so playing Live is not as easy for me nowadays.
FreakinSweet1987 I own the Xbox and play L&R, but I mostly play for the multiplayer.
I was playing the n64 version until I lost all my lives getting those swarms of bees and rage quit. Getting back over there was not easy. I wondered if the remake wouldn't set us so far back after dying.
It sounds like the remake is much more easy and doable, saves lives onto files this time, less things to do for fetch quests, easier locations, things take less hits, less annoying ways to get hurt or die like the dinosaur in the race, this definitely seems like the version for me.
Thanks very much for this video. I don't want to give up on Conkers Bad Fur Day but I don't think I have the patience for the challenge of the N64 version, and glad to know the last third is a shooter. I probably would have hated that in the first version.
You can easily get extra lives by finding the hidden tail by breaking the back wall of the cheese enclosure with the anvil form.
You have to jump to make it ting but it's super useful.
If you had a hard time with the bee swarms give up. War will make you cry
Jesus, you shouldnt game then, cbfd is simple as fuck besides war, due to laggy stupid gun control. Took me 12 hours to beat it blind 🤷♂️
Just bought this on Xbox one along with Armed and dangerous to go on a nostalgia trip. Gotta say my friend I loved this review, subscribing.
I just found your channel and I love your videos subbed