It's kind of insane how much my perception of this car changed just because they finally have a stick😂 I didn't like anything about his car, then one day I wake up to a notification saying there's a manual and all the sudden I love everything about it. I NEED one. I wish I could afford it :(
That's the great thing about cars. You can get what you personally like and not care about what others buy. I bought a 2021 Supa and love it. It's not manual and I don't care, I've had a bunch of those in the past and can always buy another. The thing is, the auto Supra is manual! There's just no clutch. You have two ways to control the gears if you want. Everyone should think about cars in this way. To each their own.
@@JustinPerrin I mean I never cared if other people liked the car or not, when I was younger I used to rip on people with slammed Honda's that sounded like lawnmowers but I grew out of that. I like to just see people involved with cars, but for my own personal preference, manual is king, I love it. It turns driving into more of an experience for me...even if it is slower technically. I don't judge people who don't drive or have a manual car, I just prefer it for my own car. I do however try to urge people who have never driven manual to at least try it, I think most would never go back if they tried and got the hang of it. Also when the car first came out I thought it was weird that it was basically a BMW...but I've since changed my mind on that too....I like bmws anyway, it's what I personally drive(it is stick) I just thougt it was weird that Toyota didn't actually develop the car from the bottom to the top on their own, but again, I've since changed my mind, just glad to see that Toyota has a good modern sports car out.
Supra REVIEW MPH. The manual transmission in the 2023 Toyota GR Supra 3.0 was a must-have for many car enthusiasts who were clamoring for it. Well done as always!
As a B58 Manual owner (BMW M140i 480bhp), I can only imagine what it's like on this better handling platform. However with a decent exhaust the sound combined with the manual transmission is such a great experience. I mainly end up in 2nd-3rd gear on the majority of the driving roads which don't have long straights, but the B58 just pulls even in stock form.
Yeah I can imagine how fun it is to drive plus the relatively lightweight chassis. I have a manual f80 pushing probably close to 600 crank hp, that’s def fun
Yeup thanks to the z now we have a manual in a better platform and motor. Dont get me wrong I love the new z but the supra is the all around better car.
@SKE. Hebi I like the looks of the z too but the fact is....the supra is a better performing car in every aspect and that is more important to me as an auto cross driver. I love the heritage the z new z brings but that motor and the way the gearing and computers work in that car are just not it. Not to mention I had a 2023 nismo 370z and it sounded league's better than this new one. The b58 inline 6 twinscroll motor is a masterpiece. The handling dynamics of the supra are insane especially coming from the classic mk4 boat we all know and love.
@@ciello___8307 mines ready. The problem is stealership markups. I have money right, but doesn't mean we consumers need to be dumb and keep paying markups and letting the dealers keep doing this.
My first 2 cars were Supras when I was in college. With family and growth we moved over to BMW sedans (5 & M5) but always with a manual! When Toyota announced the Supra was coming back I was all too ready to go back to my first love, BUT Toyota threw me for loop when they said no manual.......That was a none starter and complete deal breaker for me! With Toyota out of the running, I looked at getting my first corvette but wait they did the same freaking thing and so did BMW no stick. Out of no where comes the Cadillac Blackwing with a stick..So I zero in on the Cadillac but then Toyota says “I hear you” and does this..... No doubt in part in response to their old rival the Z....You never forget your first love. So the marriage of BMW and Toyota is far from a bad thing for me...I think I might have to go with the Supra again since this will probably be my last stick and probably my last combustion car...
@@kobedabest so sad…I heard of someone (I think was Ford) trying to make a full electric car with a 6 speed manual and synthetic engine sounds pumped in. Sounds gimmicky but I’ll see how that goes; but realistically I’ll probably be done with the stick after my next car even if there are some creative engineers keeping it on life support!
@@coredaqqer6197 First off, it’s relatively inexpensive. Secondly, it’s just a Beamer and it’s wildly overpriced for the performance and guts. Not debatable. Almost every comp destroys it in every category. If you’re a simp for this trash, just say so.
@@sawxpatscelts how? This is relatively the best car rn you can get for your money. Destroys the new z and few bolt on and proper tune you are in the 500hp ball game.
On a scale of 1-10, how heavy is the clutch? I can't stand light clutches. Also, where is the dang handbrake? That and the fake vents might be deal breakers for me.
I can't believe Toyota still doesn't have a fix for that baby horn after so many complaints and jokes about it. They'd rather shell out the manual first to pull Z customers over. I'm embarrassed for Toyota.
I'd compare the Supra to the 718 Cayman GTS. Base Cayman is closer in price. But the GTS 4.0 power is line with a supra at around 400 hp. Price difference is big, The GTS is $90k base (Probably $100k+ with decent options) vs $60k top spec for the Supra. From that perspective, Supra is a insane deal. Porsche definitely has some traits that best the Supra like interior quality, nothing fake cosmetic all form follow function, cockpit is a lot more airy, more exotic feel, and it's one of the last n/a manual cars out there but is it worth $40k (if you can even get one allocated)?
Yes indeed it’s latest gen b58 I think 3rd or 4th variant , Supra one has the latest gen 2021+ 2020 has 2 port exhaust 21+ 6 port , the engine in Supra is tuned different than bmw variant also Toyota made sure all the components that break down on b58 are replaced with reliable Toyota standards in mind, you are welcome
I really like it but I can't trust that BMW had a hand in it. Maybe in a few years I'll see enough reliability to hop on board. At this point I'm more interested in the Corolla GR.
it has the b58 engine in it bmw engines never really break, they're stupidly reliable, you just have to worry about their electronics but they didn't go overboard on this supra.
That’s exactly what it’s gonna be a classic in the future just like old mk4 no one bought it and it was nothing special now it’s god of cars lol 😂 get one now in manual and you got ur self investment
@@akdomun its a little accessory piece you can get from many different aftermarket places but honestly the cheap one on amazon works the same as all the $100 ones
I don't know if this is off topic, but would you wish there was a remote start for the Toyota Supra or Not? For me, I would definitely just for the reason why we have remote starts nowadays for our vehicles.
I've never found myself needing remote start tbh. Plus it's easier to steal cars with remote start, like Kias and Hyundai are real bad for it right now
@DaxieStudioz based on paper nissan z is faster but the supra actually beat the new Z in a drag race mainly because of the zf 8 speed. I would like to see them race in manual forms to see which is faster.
@DaxieStudioz are ya dumb? The Z loses in every drag race, time attack, or grip. Even with the same freaken tires. Yes savagegeese already did it. And the Z is slower everywhere
@DaxieStudioz post the link where it’s faster. Slower 0-60 for the Z and the Supra has same power, if not more cuz it’s underrated and like 2-300 pounds lighter.
@DaxieStudioz it’s slower even with better tires auto vs auto and manual vs manual will be same results , Supra is 260lbs lighter what did you expect? And Supra makes more like 400whp not 382 😂
It's kind of insane how much my perception of this car changed just because they finally have a stick😂 I didn't like anything about his car, then one day I wake up to a notification saying there's a manual and all the sudden I love everything about it. I NEED one. I wish I could afford it :(
That's the great thing about cars. You can get what you personally like and not care about what others buy. I bought a 2021 Supa and love it. It's not manual and I don't care, I've had a bunch of those in the past and can always buy another. The thing is, the auto Supra is manual! There's just no clutch. You have two ways to control the gears if you want. Everyone should think about cars in this way. To each their own.
@@JustinPerrin I mean I never cared if other people liked the car or not, when I was younger I used to rip on people with slammed Honda's that sounded like lawnmowers but I grew out of that. I like to just see people involved with cars, but for my own personal preference, manual is king, I love it. It turns driving into more of an experience for me...even if it is slower technically. I don't judge people who don't drive or have a manual car, I just prefer it for my own car. I do however try to urge people who have never driven manual to at least try it, I think most would never go back if they tried and got the hang of it. Also when the car first came out I thought it was weird that it was basically a BMW...but I've since changed my mind on that too....I like bmws anyway, it's what I personally drive(it is stick) I just thougt it was weird that Toyota didn't actually develop the car from the bottom to the top on their own, but again, I've since changed my mind, just glad to see that Toyota has a good modern sports car out.
@@justadude598 Agreed. It's 3 pedals or a no go for me.
You’re eaxactly what’s wrong with the car community these days. Just enjoy the car for what it is, not what it’s suppose to be. Lame ahh niqqa
Same boat. Let’s shift our mindset as How can I afford this.
Loved this Supra when I drove it even in automatic, I can only imagine it in manual ! Excellent video brother !
It really levels up the driving experience! Glad you enjoyed the video 👍
Just got mine yesterday. A91 MT. Awesome car to drive. Worth the wait
Supra REVIEW MPH. The manual transmission in the 2023 Toyota GR Supra 3.0 was a must-have for many car enthusiasts who were clamoring for it. Well done as always!
This was a fun one, Hector!
Hector you gonna be at race wars?
@@bigdonald123 unfortunately no.
What a strange comment? Bot?
The manual is the best thing ever to enjoy driving.
happy they made a manual but the ONLY thing that i wish it had to complete the package would be a hand brake
Manual Supra 😍
As a B58 Manual owner (BMW M140i 480bhp), I can only imagine what it's like on this better handling platform. However with a decent exhaust the sound combined with the manual transmission is such a great experience. I mainly end up in 2nd-3rd gear on the majority of the driving roads which don't have long straights, but the B58 just pulls even in stock form.
Yeah I can imagine how fun it is to drive plus the relatively lightweight chassis. I have a manual f80 pushing probably close to 600 crank hp, that’s def fun
@@MikeyG003 what do you do for work ?
@@Logandary8D real estate and businesses.
Finally get your hands on a Supra manual only to test it on a track where you only use 3rd gear 😭😂
mannn was thinking the same 😤😤🤣
Always hoping that the Mk V would have a manual version and now here we are, my ultimate dream car, hope I can get it after graduating uni 🥺
same bro. graduate december and wanna save money for this car. good luck!!
The silhouette. Echoes of the Batmobile 89
what weve all been waiting for
As someone with a Manual M140i I approve of this. This might be my next car. 😭❤️
Good choice!
My new, dream car. Thank you Toyota.
And bmw*
@@MikeyG003 aw yes. This comment. It’s about 80% Toyota and 20% BMW.
@@Mcali1984 about that..
Very interesting car. I would love to see this against a Camaro SS 1LE on the track. Surprised that wasn't mentioned in the competition section.
The 1LE would be the champion there, different weight class too
@@Linknelson true 1le is hard to beat at a track. Supra is faster in ima. Straight tho
@@ll.7927 even in a straight line it’s not faster. Unless your talking drag racing. Roll racing in stock form can not compete with the ss
5:59 baby horn
To quote Jason Camissa, "Thats the F U horn... the F U BMW gave Toyota."
SO GLAD THEY CAME THRU
awesome job!, i gotta learn how to drive a manual transmission for this reason alone
M/T is the best for driving imo if u like to cruise and turn up @ times
Only thing hard about driving manual is setting off from a standstill. After you've mastered that, it's easy and fun! Good luck!
@@Morten54 yeah, just dont drop the clutch like in videogames... It doesn't make you faster, but makes you not be able to move anymore
As you said, cars like this are worth learning! You bond with the vehicle even more
I think only reason they came up with the manual is because of the Z.
Yeup thanks to the z now we have a manual in a better platform and motor. Dont get me wrong I love the new z but the supra is the all around better car.
@SKE. Hebi I like the looks of the z too but the fact is....the supra is a better performing car in every aspect and that is more important to me as an auto cross driver. I love the heritage the z new z brings but that motor and the way the gearing and computers work in that car are just not it. Not to mention I had a 2023 nismo 370z and it sounded league's better than this new one. The b58 inline 6 twinscroll motor is a masterpiece. The handling dynamics of the supra are insane especially coming from the classic mk4 boat we all know and love.
Also, everyone was saying they wanted one… time for enthusiasts to vote with their wallets
@@ciello___8307 mines ready. The problem is stealership markups. I have money right, but doesn't mean we consumers need to be dumb and keep paying markups and letting the dealers keep doing this.
@@ciello___8307 agreed. Wallet is ready ….delivery in this market; TBD 😅
tHe 0 tO 60 fElT sO mUcH mOrE eNgAgInG aNd FuN... "wow i was able to go all the way up to 60 in second gear!!!!!"
With the manual it’s actually a real Supra now. 🔥😎
I'm lovin' it
Wow holding 3rd gear long ,guess that's the power bank ,sounds nice
why dont they just make real vents
Last year send off will have real vents
Last year of this generations production will have targa top, and real vents. Callin it
@@D35300 I said it first lol 😂
@@bman1668 nah you didn’t include targa
@@D35300 targa will be in future but Ok lol 😂
My first 2 cars were Supras when I was in college. With family and growth we moved over to BMW sedans (5 & M5) but always with a manual! When Toyota announced the Supra was coming back I was all too ready to go back to my first love, BUT Toyota threw me for loop when they said no manual.......That was a none starter and complete deal breaker for me! With Toyota out of the running, I looked at getting my first corvette but wait they did the same freaking thing and so did BMW no stick. Out of no where comes the Cadillac Blackwing with a stick..So I zero in on the Cadillac but then Toyota says “I hear you” and does this..... No doubt in part in response to their old rival the Z....You never forget your first love. So the marriage of BMW and Toyota is far from a bad thing for me...I think I might have to go with the Supra again since this will probably be my last stick and probably my last combustion car...
I agreed with everything you said. And this will be my last stick sports car. Before the hybrid and EV takes over
@@kobedabest so sad…I heard of someone (I think was Ford) trying to make a full electric car with a 6 speed manual and synthetic engine sounds pumped in. Sounds gimmicky but I’ll see how that goes; but realistically I’ll probably be done with the stick after my next car even if there are some creative engineers keeping it on life support!
Those are some pretty sick wheels!
facts
This is the most beautiful BMW Z4 I never seen I mean Toyota Supra
Its this a b58 manual?
Yes.
Not precisely. It does share some components with BMW’s manual, but Toyota completely overhauled it to fit the Supra.
@@MilesPerHr what’s up man, thanks for replying and hope your doing well! So its not the same engine as in the 340i?
@@barkbros123 same engine different transmission
I would buy it but those fake vents are a real eye sore
then replace em, that’s an awful reason to not buy a car lol. If you can’t afford it just say that, if you don’t like the entire car just say that.
@@coredaqqer6197 First off, it’s relatively inexpensive. Secondly, it’s just a Beamer and it’s wildly overpriced for the performance and guts. Not debatable. Almost every comp destroys it in every category. If you’re a simp for this trash, just say so.
@@sawxpatscelts still singing the same song? As everyone that doesn't like this car "" "wahhh, it's a BMW!.. Wahhh" lol
@@sawxpatscelts how? This is relatively the best car rn you can get for your money. Destroys the new z and few bolt on and proper tune you are in the 500hp ball game.
@@coredaqqer6197 bruh what the cars cheap
Did they retune the suspension for all 2023/2024 models or only for manuals?
I dont want. Got auto, never gonna buy another manual. Owned plenty, this car deserves better shifting than I can do
14:34 wow 104 mph in 3rd! pretty tall gears!
Trevors Airport looking like it needs work!
this car is literally a bmw. bmw engine, bmw key, bmw infotainment. everything is bmw
Well done sir !
Thank you!
@@MilesPerHr Thank you for the awesome review! Keep on keepin on sir.
Why would you get this when the FL5 type R exists?
I love my '23 mx-5 rf club, but i really want a supra 😢
Is the steering on the lighter or heavier side?
I just cant unsee the BMW parts in that interior
And that's a good thing. Toyota's interiors are terrible.
Beautiful car but I preferred the rims that came with the 22 model
It's probably because the blue. I got the red one with those rims and it looks like a true sports car.
Nice bro, I'm sure it looks good with red. I have the 22 nitro yellow model. Have fun with your car
Well, I have a Z4 E89 Sdrive 35i (N54) and it has the exact same gear ratio's for all 6 gears... I looked up the values of both cars.
On a scale of 1-10, how heavy is the clutch? I can't stand light clutches. Also, where is the dang handbrake? That and the fake vents might be deal breakers for me.
What's your comparison vs the m4 manual that you loved so much?
None, because the M4 would smash it
But I thought the Beige leather was limited to the A91-mt edition 🤔?
Ima get one
not the horn🤣🤣🤣 come on supra we don’t want to drive a bmw
I can't believe Toyota still doesn't have a fix for that baby horn after so many complaints and jokes about it. They'd rather shell out the manual first to pull Z customers over. I'm embarrassed for Toyota.
You just need to spend extra on a manual. Automatic is around £50,000 and manual is around £57,000. (GT Pro trim)
I'd compare the Supra to the 718 Cayman GTS. Base Cayman is closer in price. But the GTS 4.0 power is line with a supra at around 400 hp. Price difference is big, The GTS is $90k base (Probably $100k+ with decent options) vs $60k top spec for the Supra. From that perspective, Supra is a insane deal. Porsche definitely has some traits that best the Supra like interior quality, nothing fake cosmetic all form follow function, cockpit is a lot more airy, more exotic feel, and it's one of the last n/a manual cars out there but is it worth $40k (if you can even get one allocated)?
u eed 1 million
素晴らしい動画ありがとう
スープラ購入しましたが、納車待ちがもうすぐ一年になります😂
does anyone know where this was filmed?
I'll keep the auto
Someday I will own this car
Good old bmw, i love accidently puting my car in reverse instead of first.
Yes! Reverse gear should be all the way to the right and down. This may trick someone into thinking he's in 1st gear.
Bro I don't even understand the gearbox in the 3.0
Where the handbrake?
Can the m40i b58 make as much reliably as the b58 within the Supra? Is the engine config or components any different? Who knows?
Yes indeed it’s latest gen b58 I think 3rd or 4th variant , Supra one has the latest gen 2021+ 2020 has 2 port exhaust 21+ 6 port , the engine in Supra is tuned different than bmw variant also Toyota made sure all the components that break down on b58 are replaced with reliable Toyota standards in mind, you are welcome
That fake vent has the use to toyota will not add it if ur has no use bta love this vid❤
What's the MPH Word for this!
Can someone explain me why the display doing this?
Stroboscopic effect. In person, it's not like that
Its crazy how many BMW parts are in this car.
I really like it but I can't trust that BMW had a hand in it. Maybe in a few years I'll see enough reliability to hop on board. At this point I'm more interested in the Corolla GR.
it has the b58 engine in it bmw engines never really break, they're stupidly reliable, you just have to worry about their electronics but they didn't go overboard on this supra.
Toyota has made BMW fans very happy!!
Not to be completely nitpicking, but when you first pan over the Toyota badge on the front nose... it came pre-installed with swirls?
For what it’s worth, these are pre-production cars, so not every detail of the exterior and interior and assembly-line perfect.
That’s every car you get new. They don’t know how to wash cars at dealers. Even new cars always need paint correction.
5:23 do the electricals flash like that due to the camera? or is it like that in person
It is a frame rate issue, or more correctly a strobe effect. The lights don't flash in person.
Wish all vents were real
Hmm idk how I feel about it not having an actual hand Ebrake :(
3:35 I don’t like the flashy screen. Maybe in 2024 they could remove that?
The screens flashing like that cause of the camera. It does not look like that in person
What the horn 😂😂😂
That's not a supra that's a bmw z4 in disguise with Toyota badges
What enthusiasts wanted was a toyota sportscar made by toyota.
Thats a major L on the electronic parking brake instead of an e brake
seriously, the manual is meant for enthusiasts and drifting is a big part of that. Major L indeed
They need to put out an A91 - CF/MT 😁
Did they add Android Auto for 23? '22 didn't have Android Auto.
I wish i could get this car for that price on my country, it looks so fun
You live in Turkey?
@@catalintimofti1117 South America
Man I really wish I could afford one of these
Never give up! Went from having my Corolla to buying my 3.0 prem
Yoo what game is that it looks so realistic
Considering the price, I'd prefer the interior to pop. Just a lil bit.
They should the vents functional
how tall are you?
Miller 👍🏽
What about bump steer?
The suspension calibration here is pretty well dialed. I didn’t notice any bump steer
@@MilesPerHr that's great, seems like Toyota may have addressed the issue
still rather have an m2c
Watch no one buy this and 20 years in the future these become classics lol
That’s exactly what it’s gonna be a classic in the future just like old mk4 no one bought it and it was nothing special now it’s god of cars lol 😂 get one now in manual and you got ur self investment
Is the buffeting still there at low speeds with the windows down?
Most likely but thankfully its an easy $15 fix
@@iamemoi1640 Interesting. What fix is that?
Didn’t do that test, so I’m not sure, but since they didn’t change the exterior design, it’s possible that is still the case 🤷♂️
@@akdomun its a little accessory piece you can get from many different aftermarket places but honestly the cheap one on amazon works the same as all the $100 ones
@@iamemoi1640 what's the accessory piece called?
I don't know if this is off topic, but would you wish there was a remote start for the Toyota Supra or Not? For me, I would definitely just for the reason why we have remote starts nowadays for our vehicles.
Manual cars can’t get remote start.
I've never found myself needing remote start tbh. Plus it's easier to steal cars with remote start, like Kias and Hyundai are real bad for it right now
@@ErectileSceptile Hyundai is easy to steal cuz they don’t have an immobilizer built in and a sensor in the keys to verify.
Lol the baby horn
yeah for rich enthusiasts
Looks beautiful but I can only imagine it’s a blind spot nightmare .
A friend drove an automatic one a few months ago and complained about how you can barely see anything in the car
I would take the new nissan z just because this car is littered with fake vents.
@DaxieStudioz based on paper nissan z is faster but the supra actually beat the new Z in a drag race mainly because of the zf 8 speed. I would like to see them race in manual forms to see which is faster.
@DaxieStudioz are ya dumb? The Z loses in every drag race, time attack, or grip. Even with the same freaken tires. Yes savagegeese already did it. And the Z is slower everywhere
@DaxieStudioz post the link where it’s faster. Slower 0-60 for the Z and the Supra has same power, if not more cuz it’s underrated and like 2-300 pounds lighter.
@DaxieStudioz I don’t see anywhere that they say the 400z is faster or better performing car
@DaxieStudioz it’s slower even with better tires auto vs auto and manual vs manual will be same results , Supra is 260lbs lighter what did you expect? And Supra makes more like 400whp not 382 😂
Bruh!!! Where is Supra??? I can't see it anywhere!!!
All I see is a weird BMW Z4/M4 with a Toyota badge!!!!
And they still won't buy it. lol.
Because dealers will mark it up by $20K probably
I'm buying one it if I can get one before a GR86. Have a deposit on both, we'll see which one is available first from my dealer.
Rather get the new mustang with room to move around in the cabin
And extra 500-700lbs weight sure can get that
I was planing to get one but seeing it have electric parking break not for me. 😅
Y’all will complain about literally ANYTHING these days
@@yz125rider2006 He just said it’s not for him lol
It's not what we wanted it's a bmw
The B58 is a modern day 2JZ. It was very smart of Toyota to partner with BMW and use it.
@@aceytoja BMW=POS.
I still don't like the front end, that pointy part, looks strange....
Annoying commentary, couldn’t make it though this. TH-cam suggested this, not digging it though
No handbrake like a Nissan Z ??
Disappointing
Wireless Apple car Play
I thought the only interior color was going to be the light brown ?
That’s only for the A91 Special edition. Those only come in matte white and grey.
@@Barbwire710 gotcha, thanks for the clear up !
That’s the A91 (single year special edition)
New bmw z4 🎉