Caitlyn Jenner - You Don't Represent Us!
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- I just think Caitlyn needs to understand that she does represent the community...even if she doesn't want too.
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I have more issues with Caitlyn Jenner than just this. Like how she has said that she still doesn't support gay marriage, *when she herself is still only attracted to women which makes her a lesbian* on top of all the ignorant things she's said in reference to the trans community. At this point, I'm just like, please don't make us look bad, and have a good life. I'm done caring about her. And no, you're not being an asshole, you're actually being really generous giving her the benefit of the doubt.
Do you have an Instagram?
+ftEmmett I don't wanna argue here, I just wanted to add that I've heared her saying she is now attracted to guys. I can't know what's going on with her sexuality, but I found that very confusing, like, is she just saying that so she can seem straight? Does anybody here know what's going on exactly?
This clearly shows her hypocrisy
not necessarily. I mean there are many people within the trans community that find after transition there sexuality is 'different' / more clear to them and they find themselves attracted to more or different people. I just wish Caitlyn would explain it more.
AndroidinsheepsClothing No, they meant that Caitlyn being a trans woman and being against gay marriage is hypocritical.
let's get chase on Ellen!
Please and thank you omg
I have no clue why he wasnt the first ftm guy on Ellen... I mean his ellen dance vids & his devotion to the community... Ellen needs to talk to this guy!
+uppercaseCHASE1 I don't even understand how you were not at the ellen show by now!
+PX Xaver ugh i knowwww! Lets start a hashtag #getchaseonellen LOL
+uppercaseCHASE1 I'm sure she just didn't heard from you until now. (I have no clue how she did it..!) She would love you!
btw thank's for responding;D
I'm a Cis woman and hearing her say she didn't believe in gay marriage on Ellen shocked me. To expect people to accept her but not accept others blew my mind
Jazz should be the face of transgender community, I think. She's done a lot for a young person.
yes! Omg thank you. She knows her stuff
agree she is Awesome, but probably not great for Trans Visibility outside of young Trans girls with very supportive families.
Lin Flower yeeeeesssssss
Lavern Cox, I think is a better person.She has obviously got attention BUT she is better suited than Caitlyn is.
I agree completely
+KaelWulf Couldn't agree with you more!!
Laverne cox is my idol in the trans community
amy shames i believe so. I am not entirely sure tbh
+Shamey Ames ..By the way, "fully transitioned" has nothing to do with someone getting SRS.
HANDS downs this is the most honest trans, lgbt youtuber out there
and you are NOT over-reacting!
Gosh... that is problematic for the trans community AND cis women. UGHHHHHH.
I know so many people who don't think women have gender inequality.... oy. Chase. I really feel you so hard right now.
Astrid
Women are not opresseddddd
facts don't care about feelings
Astrid ik the feeling being trans and female is hard taking the estrogen and spiral lacton messes with your emotions and getting the outermost respect that I am a women and I don't wanna grow up doing sex and I mean just like cait is like the hardest part is dressing I could not Care how I dress if I could get one guy to see me as a real female
Any time anything trans is mentioned in any of my classes some person yells Caitlyn Jenner and then no other comment is applied to that.
Or it's ignorant hate.
same !
Same. But they say Bruce, and use the wrong pronouns.
+Alex Creed that too, its so annoying
+MasterRK9 V At least they recall a trans*person and do not confuse it with drag. That's the case in my LGBT* workshops at school. So annoying. -.-
It sounds, to me, that Caitlyn is using a stereotype to be viewed as female but, she might actually have a problem choosing clothing. She is privileged. I think that the biggest problem in our community is stereotypes. We need to be ourselves; whether it be picking out cloths or evading death threats we need to know ourselves and stand together in support.
I enjoyed your comment and agree with you. 😀
isnt she like totally against same gender marriage
Yup, even though she likes women herself.
+A. Li she actually recently said that now she wants a "normal" relationship with a guy...she is so messed up!!! your sexual orientation does NOT change when you are trans...she just does not want to be seen as a lesbian. Its obvious she has issues with the gay community
MsSparklesNGlitter didnt she say that she identified as asexual
Not in the interview she gave with Diane Sawyer, she said she had always and only been attracted towards women.
MsSparklesNGlitter ooh my bad
I believe that Laverne Cox should be "the face" of the trans community. I love her and I have so much respect for her! That's just my personal opinion tho :)
Finley Rey don't forget about Marsha P! she isnt trans, but shes a drag queen and gay activist whom fought for us all throughout the stonewall riots and that was a huge milestone for the lgbt community
@@mrselfdestruct7605 If she isn't trans, she shouldn't be THE FACE OF THE TRANS COMMUNITY...right?!?
As a cis trans ally and also being raised by two trans woman I know that this video hit me as hard as anyone else. This is really eye opening to non educated people who think Caitlyn is the big figure in the community
this should go viral!!!!! love you
+Neon Water Lets tweet her about it!!!
+uppercaseCHASE1 please do she def needs to be aware of the impications she's given by this statement, no matter how misinterpreted it was from the question.
+uppercaseCHASE1 I completely understand youre frustration even though I am also ftm I also watched those episodes and interviews and I was shocked when she said that and yes she does have alot more privilege and etc. I could literally go on for hours
My brother a cis straight boy and was joking around with my heels because I was complaining about heels hurting and being too feminine and my stepdad joked like it was okay and I quote "so your the next Caitlyn Jenner" and I a gay non cis person was extremely offended and I am not a trans woman or Caitlyn but that joke stung it hurt a lot and he didn't apologize to me and I live in a family that accepts most sexualitys like they are normal and the rest they are cool but non cis is a bit weird but still ok
Sorry about that! Hope your parents just had a bad judgment call and will understand in the future.
You forget that Jenner is a Kardashian. Of course she is going to be superficial and not understand what others are going through because of her fame and privilege.
Quote from Caitlyn, "why should I help the community when they should help themselves" your not God, Caitlyn. You don't help those that help themselves and some times there is nothing no one can do for themselves and they need to ask for help.
Caitlyn Kardashian. Nuff said.
didn't she say she was against gay marriage even when she is only attracted to women??
Sage Michael yes
Last part:
Don't take this down.
You're not being an asshole.
You are not completely off base though some things said do seem to misinterpret what was asked initially.
Please keep the vid up. I think whether or not Caitlyn was wrong, she probs needs to see this.
"im just kidding oh my god" I just found your channel and this little moment just made my day, thank you so much
"YA KNOW. ya know? " 😂😂😂
Hey there Chase! Please DON'T take this video down. This stuff need to be said. The way you speak is so accessible and, because you are coming from a place of caring for people and respecting them, you can say these things without it being an "attack". Do you know what I mean?! You touch on things in this video that a lot of people outside of the trans community have no clue about and really need to know (like all the violence towards trans women and particularly those of colour, and also the fact that women are still not treated equally) but because you cover them in passing rather than preaching you leave the audience wanting to know more. I really think this video would leave people unaware of these issues wanting to learn more and willing to do their own research. For that reason this is pure gold. So, yeah, please don't take it down!
Cheers,
Sam-Paulie
"Defensive cis voice" AHAHAHAHAAH DED
its a blessing to have someone actually talk about things that need to be talked about. Chase brings up things that are hidden from everyone in society.We need to speak up!
"the defensive cis voice" oh my god hahaha
Hey Chase. :) Have you heard of Laura Jane Grace? She is the lead singer of Against Me! and she has an AOL series on youtube called True Trans. She is a trans woman and the series is about many different things surrounding her being transgender and her transition as well as other transgender people's transition. I think you should really check it/her out and maybe do a video on her? That would be so appreciated by me as I greatly admire her. Thanks Chase! :)
+Authenticallyme Laura is amazing, she should be the face of trans people :) She was the one that inspired me to come out and be myself.
yes!!!!!!!
She's my mom :3
Seriously tho, please do the visibility of Trans men video because I have had to talk about that so much recently, I swear most people think we're a myth!
Been binge watching the HELL out of uppercaseCHASE the whole day.... whoops?
Thank you so, so much for putting captions on your videos!
I think that when she said, "the hardest part about being a woman is figuring out what to wear," It was a reflection on how happy she is being able to be a woman. Like, being a woman feels so natural to her that she doesn't have many difficulties in her daily life. As opposed to before she came out, dealing with all that secrecy and dysphoria for 40 plus years. I think it was really just a personal statement.
Chase you make great videos but you always seem like you are afraid of people getting mad at you or saying the wrong thing. You should speak with more confidence because everything you say is perfectly fine and you have a really nice following. Not everyone is going to agree with you 100% of the time but that is totally normal. I am a new subscriber and have been really educated by all your awesome videos! :D
You´re absolutely right Chase.
When you accidentally skip an ad, so you have to replay the video until you get one
Thank you for making this video. I was really upset when she said that the hardest part about being a woman was deciding what to wear.You touched on everything that was going through my mind. Her privilege, her oblivion to the inequalities and dangers faced by so many.Excellent video. Thank you. Peace.
Much respect for trans people like chase
This is so true... I've had people in person ask me if Caitlyn is an idol or something of mine, and they're surprised when I tell them no, and that I don't think she represents the trans community well at all.
this needed to be said.
I'd like to play devils advocate for a second. There are many ways to interpret what she said. She might have been trying to make light of it, as a joke. She might have been saying it's hard to find clothes that you feel safe in, or comfortable in.
I think with the 'picking what to wear' thing, Caitlyn is talking from her reality TV bubble. Choosing what to wear is probably one of the most difficult things that people in her family have to do as, from what I've seen, it's fair to say they have quite a pampered lifestyle.
The fact that she is in this bubble is probably the biggest problem with her being a representative of the community as a whole, because she may assume that everyone has the resources and lifestyle that she has, which is absolutely not the case.
Love what you are saying. I think Caitlyn transitioning is so great for her but as a guy transitioning after her it is so hard to get people to separate my issues from hers. I hate even more that people watch/read about Cait like it gives some insight into who I am.
Hey, I think Caitlyn is a very sheltered person on so many levels. She's always been in the spotlight and deals with all of the negative aspects of that, a photographer on every corner trying to capture her next whatever. While I know she's not getting everything right, I do think she's trying and is adapting as she messes up. As for the dress comment, it could be that finding the right clothes is very difficult. Look at the circles she travels in, these people dress to the nines, there images is everything. After all you never know when the next pic will be snapped and show up in the Enquirer. Great video as usual, keep up the good work.
i hate when people assume i love caitlyn jenner just because im trans. like what? no!?
Leave this video up. Better yet, share it broadly. The apparent ease, speed, and success of Caitlin's public transition have not been a good example of how being trans affects 'regular' people, especially transwomen. I'm hoping Caitlin realizes that she has an amazing opportunity to help in the acceptance and understanding of trans people. I hope she sees this video, starts down a road of learning the battles that many individuals face, and begins to frame her messaging in a more informed and thoughtful way.
She can do what she wants but i totally agree with you chase, she is a celebrity and the people who "learn" through her what trans* is are getting the wrong image because of her priviledge.
I have a really hard time dealing with Caitlyn to be honest. As an ftm yeah i do know what it's like to be a woman and honestly i can say with almost 100 the hardest parts of being a woman is societal opresssion and periods
I'm not sure about Canadian law but in America it is illegal to pay someone for sex. So the work they had to do must have been 100 times scarier because they would have to fear jail time as well as everything else
I think she’s getting better.She was on the channel 4 show Genderquake in the UK recently and she was very good.I thinks she’s changed her attitude a lot recently.
At my school there's a class that you go to during home room if you're behind and you work. I didn't know I was trans at the time, but I wouldn't stand for purposely misgendering someone. These I think juniors were working on a play thing while I was reading a book. They were using famous people as... Examples? Idk, it was weird. They had to come up with a male character and one of them said, "Bruce Jenner." One of the aske, "Isn't he a she?" The person answered, "No. He's a dude who likes dudes." I very, VERY visibly angry and they just kept on. Finally I just said, "Can I go to the library?" The teacher let me, probably because I dressed like a demon and that scared her.
Then, when I came out as trans I gave her a note for her and the teacher (She's training to be a language teacher.) I'm pretty sure she never gave my teacher the note. She read it, I SAW her read it, but she still treats me like and calls me a girl. Even the office uses my preferred name. I hate that class.
I swear, everyday I come closer and closer to completely losing it.
i kept pausing the video to like it, like ten times... before realising I had done already
Don't feel bad Chase, this was a well made observation
Oh god this guy is my spirit animal. I could complain about stuff like this for hours.
I know this video was in 2015 but I had a friend who recently began transition last year, and she was having issues figuring out what clothes to wear, but in a personal aspect I can understand that esp when trying to figure out what you like that matches your personality.
Thank you for this. Just what I needed to listen right now. Just, thanks.
I hadn't seen your videos for a year and... NICE BEARD !! I also agree about the video.
the hardest part of being a woman is being your true self and having the courage to go against societal standards, all while being viewed as objects with less rights than men by a significant percentage of the opposite sex.
All of this, and plus hasn't she said some homophobic shit too? Like correct me if I'm wrong but I remember her saying something in an interview about marriage equality that she believed marriage was meant for a man and a woman.
I think she has done a marvelous job with the way she has been making an effort to be a good influence and since she came out I have seen the way she has evolved, I think she was forced to be a spokesperson by the media who made her an advocate without her permission. Also I think she was kidding about figuring out what to wear being hardest, she can't have possibly thought that and I have seen so many trans people putting caitlyn down. Frankly, if I were her and experienced that I wouldn't have wanted to be a part of the community but she has been working hard to come through for trans people. Give her time.
I hope what she meant was something vastly different. As a trans guy who is rarely read as male, walking into that "men's" section is anxiety inducing. Trying to find clothes that not only make me feel comfortable but hopefully help me be read as male is immensely difficult. One of the hardest parts of my personal journey IS figuring out what to wear. I'm hoping she meant it in a similar way and not as a joke. I feel like she has the potential to be a great face, not the face but one of many, of our community and do great work for us. Sometimes you just have to start somewhere.
one of the few good things that happend when Caitlyn came out, was people being able to judge how their families viewed the trans community (which in my case was not good), and if they were trans make sure that they had a safe environment
It seems to me that regardless of who she is or what she does (which we can pick over ad nauseum so forget about it) there would always be a problem with one person being 'The Face' of the trans experience. You've said it yourself a lot, so I know I don't need to tell you, Chase, that one person's experience cannot explain everyone's experience. As I see it, there would be a problem no matter what, because she's just one woman, not a big group of people from many walks of life who had varying levels of success with their transitions and all faced different struggles. If the average person is going to understand that violent transphobia is still a problem, they need somewhere to look besides a single human being's life.
I am so in love with your thoughts and opinions Chase. Love you
Chase you are absolutely amazing :) I love your videos!!
I wish Jazz was more of a figurehead for the community. The show I am Jazz would be a much better learning experience for majority of people, and getting Laverne Cox on some more shows would be amazing
Hearing you talk about this is so amazing, seeing you searching the right words to describe how you feel. cause your thoughts are so on point and u try to understand caitlyn, without throwing her under the bus. but u still know she created some very problematic things, cause she really does represent trans community to the society right now so people will think that everyone of us are like her. And that's not the case. But yeah thank you so much for this video. Would really appreciate the trans guy video too!
You're spot on Chase. I agree with you.
Yes! Thank you!
My mother is the only person who is close to me that doesn't support my transition, and I literally said these exact words to her. When I try to educate her, she says she "sees enough in the news" or "I hear about Bruce Jenner every day (misgenders/uses incorrect name)" or "they are poisoning children in schools to make them think this is normal" or "you'll never really be a man so why bother".
It isn't fair of her to use the only example of being trans she has ever heard of and applying that generalization of a single experience on her own child. I've tried to show her some of your videos, but she says she knows enough about it when she literally can't name a single other trans person.
Thank you for making this.
My family is like this. I tried to show them helpful stuff, they told me they don't care to see it.. They'd rather we continue to live estranged
You can’t expect her to know everything about her community.
this is actually a really good topic to talk about,becausely I recently talked to a female who is trans and she said basically the same thing
Chase I so felt your frustration!
I agree completely! (btw I watched the whole video)
It does not matter who you are to say that the hardest part of being a woman is to find out what to wear Is just wrong in so many ways I don't even know where to start!!! Unbelievable!
I agree 100% with you. She is so privileged that she doesn't realize how much of a difference she could really make for trans visibility. But at the same time, I'm really happy for her that she finds that part the worse, as I look at my cis wife have the outfit struggle every morning. Good for Caitlyn for getting the cis woman experience. But yeah I really hope she realizes most trans people, especially woman, don't have access to everything she has. I'm going to her speaking in February and really can't wait to see what she's gonna make it about.
as always, i totally agree with you. there have been a few times in classes or online where friends or relatives have heard the word "trans" and immediately think of caitlyn. she is a trans woman, yes, but her experience is drastically different from the large majority of the trans community. and about her comment, even if it was just a light-hearted joke, she should be aware of her privilege and platform to spread awareness.
Great video Chase thank you for developing your thoughts on the subject ! :D
As a cis (ish) female I've had a difficult time being a trans ally advocate when she was making these statements in the media because my feminists friends (we were 19 and not very literate on feminism I should say) were all saying things like "you see, you're advocating for people like him to be respected when all they can say when given the microphone is how being a woman exactly fits the horrendous caricatures and dehumanizing stereotypes on feminity".
It was difficult to express the fact that though what she was saying was indeed very dehumanizing, she was not the only trans person in the world and therefore shouldn't be heralded as the representant of all trans people, but also that when she talks about being a woman, instead of viewing her experience of being a woman as not lenghty enough in terms of female-passing, we could acknowledge that struggles linked to being a woman vary wildly.
For instance, one of the struggles I have as a woman was that due to being big chested I've been sexualized from 9 yo, and when other females claim that it's soooooo hard to be flat chested I've tended to usually disregard these statements as ignorant and incredibly hurtful, as if they were comparing an unfulfilled aesthetical aspiration and literally having to deal with pedophiles every day even before being 10 years old, but on the other hand, I can understand where they're coming from because they were told that a female's value was in her beauty and attractiveness, and that men like "real women" with "real curves" and thus were denied their feminity with people constantly saying that they looked like boys when they were young.
My point is that usually being a woman /female passing person sucks, but there are different ways in which it can suck and the fact that it sucks differently for somebody doesn't mean they are less of a woman.
PS : This was said considering the generic case of somebody coming out as a transgender woman after their forties, not specifically Caitlin Jenner because the way she's advocating against gay marriage is awful.
the show misrepresented the sex work piece. they cut out the positive part about my boss starting her own business and being a ceo.
That was a perfect video! Thank you for that!!
I couldn't have said it better myself!
Can I ask your opinion and how you feel about her Ellen interview? I had major respect for her but when I watched the interview I was shocked, her attitude towards the gay community was very surprising - she seems to be stuck in her old fashioned views but that contradicts her own transition. She's also made comments in her tv show about how being and feeling feminine is basically only achievable in the arms of a man. Would be really interested to hear your thoughts on this and how you felt when you saw her say those things!
Ps I'm not grouping sexuality and gender identity together, I know and understand they are separate issues, but I think if she's asking to be respected and accepted, she needs to show the same respect to all communities
I haven't seen the interview, and I'm very (extremely) liberal myself, but I'm actually really happy one of the most famous trans people is a conservative Republican. It always strikes me as if being trans comes with the expectation of being politically progressive, which is bs. I think this is actually quite exclusionary towards, statistically speaking, half of the trans population. It also turns LGBT issues into this thing conservatives can just brush off as yet another crazy thing liberals believe. Caitlin oplossing gay marriage is stupid, for sure, but let's not pretend it's more stupid when a trans woman believes it. Gender identity =/= political ideology.
Some people think that just cause she's trans everyone is supposed to love her. And tbh I'm glad that she came out to spread the word of trans. But c'mon. I didn't like her before she transitioned when she was an athlete, and I didn't like her when she was on the Kardashians. And I don't suddenly like her now.
You're completely right in what you're sayin chase... Fait needs to be more careful about what she's sayin and needs to understand that not all of us can transition like she did in a few months... She's not gettin that and making a joke out of it... It's not ok
THANK YOU CHASEYPOO!!!! I agree with you and thank you for your input!!! I wish I had privilege. I am on government assistance and can't even get top surgery because it's not covered. My life feels like a horrible bad joke sometimes. ILY Chase!!!!!!
Best guy ever
I think you hit the nail on the head.
You made me laugh why why with your hands in the air I'm so glad I found your channel
You make a lot of amazing points here TBH I agree with you completely
I just wanna say I agree 100 cause if I was Caitlyn then I could transition so much easier
I clicked this so fast
same
Why would you say Caitlin had the privileged of being a man? What if someone said you had the privilege of being a woman? Even if she did get by easier because of her sex at birth, that doesn't negate the fact that she wasn't a man and she did still go through the problems of self acceptance and self hate, no matter how privileged you are, if you're trans you can still go through that.
+Ashley ASHLEYM i think it comes down to not what you know you are before coming out, but how people see you. if someone didn't come out they will experience misogynistic behaviour from society if they were afab, and they can experience society giving them male piviledge if they were amab. which doesn't mean a trans woman ever was a man, or a trans man a woman. it's about society's perception of that individual. which doesn't negate inner struggles ans so on. i hope it's clear what i'm trying to say.
the deciding factor is how society perceives someone who isn't out as trans, i feel.
it's a really touchy subject and i think what i said and what most people say about it doesn't take into account even half of how complex it is depending on class, race, appearance of the trans person and how that is received by cis majority etc.
That's why Chase said Caitlyn had the priviledge of being SEEN as male.
cmon chill. he already explained that he didnt mean it like that, did u miss that entire part??
First no one would ever say he had female privilege because it doesn't exist. He said Caitlyn had male privilege not the privilege of being a man and she definitely benefited from male privilege because she passed as a man. You don't have to identify as male or even have that be your assigned sex to benefit from male privilege if society perceives you as a man you benefit from it Chase has male privilege not because he identifies as male because passes as male. Male privilege isn't about self acceptance and self hate it's about how people prioritize you thoughts and feelings and being safe at night, and getting paid the equal amount, and people not seeing you as a sex object, and being treated with respect.
Female privilege? Lol... what? ...
If the hardest part about being a woman was figuring out what to wear, I'd have a super easy life. But I definitely agree with you there. Caitlyn Jenner doesn't seem to realise she basically represents all transgender people in a way. She NEEDS to educate herself and think about her views a lot harder before voicing them than she does now.
I agree, I absolutely applaud her for her coming out in the face of all the adversity and issues for HER personally , in her life. However for her to represent and be the "Face" of the THE ENTIRE TRANS COMMUNITY, EFF NO! I personally feel, that bc of all her previous privilege she has no idea what real struggle is, what the real problems and issues are for "the average trans person". Especially ppl of color, ESPECIALLY WOMEN. God, I could go on forever but anyway I just feel like Caitlyn I love her, but she needs to have several seats. , and I wish the media wasn't so shallow and oblivious. Anywhoo, thanks for spreading the words alot of us have been thinking.
I disagree with chase on soooooo much but i do agree that 'deciding what to wear' is not the hardest part of being a woman. Im ftm, still working on starting the transition, not totally there but still.
When she first came out I was like oh she's so amazing which she is but there's so many little things she's done which is giving a bad name for the trans community that irritates me,
1. Socially, women are viewed as less than men, but men actually have less rights than women and also the pay gap is because women go into lesser paying jobs that appeal to them more. Women tend to choose lower paying jobs for happiness while men sacrifice happiness for pay.
2. I completely agree that people will read this and think that that is the actual hardest part of being a woman.
However,
She was asked hardest part for *her*. Because she is so privileged and was able to transition within a few years practically, she has not been able to experience what most trans people experience.
Anyways, I assume she will make an apology and realize what she said was taken the wrong way by not only trans but cis people.
+Jayce Hall You guys say she was so privileged, but she started to transition back in the 80s then went back IN the closet, she wasn't as privileged as you think.
+Ashley ASHLEYM still white, abled and rich.
+Ashley ASHLEYM her being rich and able to compete in the olympics was the main reason she was able to take brief hormone and facial surgery before. She was still pretty privielged, more than the average cis man and trans woman at least.
+Jayce Hall I was thinking the exact same thing.
Lol! I have a feeling she was just trying to be too clever by stating "The hardest part about being a woman is figuring out what to wear." It was probably that there was nothing "hard" about being a woman, when she has always just BEEN a woman, and that she found trying to be a "Man" was actually what was hard. I totally see your frustrations though, if I had seen the interview it would have had me off put also by her referring to the community as "they."
I look forward to taking a gander at your other videos, and subscribing. Keep up the great videos!
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Great video, totally agree! Chase when will you do a meetup omg I love your rants, you're so well spoken and super smart, and I would love to pick your brain!! Lol
I don't think you were off-base or over-reacting. I did understand your point perfectly.
That kind ignorant, irresponsible behavior *is* a threat.
Unfortunately-or-otherwise, I'm afraid that the best way not to let these loose-cannons get to you is to double-down on everything that you *can* control about protecting your own community, and I'm sure you've got the resolve and knowledge to figure-out how to do that.
Thank you for this important and informative story!
I love you, Chase.
Hey man, I fully understand & you have a right to rant. If someone famous had recently come out as asexual & they say something like the hardest thing about being ace is turning down people who ask them out, that would tick me off. Heck, that's easy for me. I'm a cat, I play with my prey, yes I am evil I toy with people when letting them down but hey, I get a kick out of it. I guess sometimes it's hard like this one person who said they were pansexual to me & was clearly hitting on me before, I sort of danced around the issue before because I am panromantic, I do want a partner just not in a sexual way. I mentioned some male & female crushes I've had & such but I had to let him down by eventually getting to the fact that I am asexual & the guy would not let up. He said he could go through a sexless relationship & I'm just like uh no, not putting anyone through that. He still tugs at it to this very day, I just need to erase this guy from my life. That's not a big issue though, it really isn't. There's far harder things like when you find out that a good friend of yours doesn't invite you to a party but invites all the other friends in the group & you find out the reason why you were left out is because the location was at a strip club. Yeah, I would have hated going but I didn't enjoy being left out & no way was I going to ruin their fun. That's still just the tip, there's so much more troubles that if I heard anyone say anything like that, I'd burst from anger.
Also, I say you do have a right to speak for women because although you are male, you have been there before. I will try to not go into detail or give out any names because this guy is a friend of mine but as a woman, he more than suffered from issues any woman could go through. What I mean is something you did point out, rape. Yeah, it's bothersome to talk about it because I feel like I'm deceiving my friend but he was suffering big time from problems after it happened.
Living in as a woman for any amount of time, even when you don't identify with it, the world will see that person as a female which means people has those difficulties. I don't identify with being female yet I still present as female. Partly because of family situation & another thing is that I'm going to start working with kids soon & since I'm legally female, going in more gender neutral might cause some trouble. I mean, I don't suffer from what Caitlyn says the hardest thing about being a woman is with picking out an outfit, I throw on a t-shirt & jeans then I'm ready to go out the door. Just binding & other things might be what will raise questions & get me in trouble. I still remember back when a gay teacher here in Oregon lost his job when a student asked him why he wasn't married & he told the kid that it's illegal for him to marry his boyfriend. That was back before the legalization obviously. If telling a kid that you're gay could cause you to lose your job, I don't want to find out how bad it is when you come out as trans.
Sorry, got sidetracked there, some of my fears just kind of took me over. Trying to get back to the subject, being forced to live as a woman, I know the fears of being a woman so that statement itself causes rage inside me although being the person who takes about 5 seconds to pick out an outfit which is whatever is clean, I don't know the problems of the fashion world & maybe it's a lot bigger than being raped to some people. Different people will prioritize differently but I feel that being raped is one of my bigger issues, I'm constantly in fear & even had to look to my friend who has some psychical issues preventing her from doing some simple tasks for protection because at the very least she is sort of in the same boat as me but for her it's not social issues, part of it is the fact that she can't afford to transition. Anyways, most people see her as a man, she even grows out a beard because she doesn't want to bother with shaving. When this guy on the train was looking at me & licking his lips, I pointed him out to her & asked her to help me. That's how desperate I got. Normally I wouldn't ask her to do anything that would possibly require an physical activity because I know it's hard for her. Knowing she couldn't take him on, she came up with a plan to look like we were exiting the train but quickly jump onto the car next to ours, this guy was the only other person in this car with us so that made the situation even scarier. If we were in the other car not only would we be away from him but if he figured out what we did, there's a possibility of someone else being there to help us out. There was someone else in the other car but thankfully, he did not follow.
I agree with you. When she came out I thought, okay cool, but then later I thought, wait a second... She needs to think about this stuff more. She's not the only trans person out there and not everyone can do what she did with all that money.
My favourite trans celebrity is Laura Jane Grace. I think she's a really strong and knowledgeable person.
you made a really good point
im non-binary n i put it as that i was socially a girl/that i was brought up socially as a girl so i know the experiences and am still perceived as a girl n experience a lot of misplaced misogyny so i can understand and/or have an opinion in discussions on womens issues (obviously not as a front voice though)