5:02 Did you guys mix up the Pro and X footage when talking about the grass? Tom said the X version has grass and the Pro doesn't but in the footage it's the other way around.
@Dillon Sykes "So what Alex refers to as 'grass being completely stripped out' is vertical blades of grass and geometry missing so its more like a texture of grass." But that what people mean when they say "grass", at least. Not just the flat texture on the ground.
I think he misspoke and meant the PS pro has grass. 44% more resolution and less Jaggies on the X!X allows them to push the settings like Grass up on the PS pro. That would make sense anyway. I dnt think 1X has a 44% resolution gap AND higher settings. The X is more powerful, certainly by quite a bit, but not THAT much more powerful.
@@colinr2550 that's what you give up when you are more worried about resolution than game play. To be honest both Microsoft and sony suffer from this. With one difference. I can almost understand why sony does it. They want to push their 4k TVs. But Microsoft is not a hardware or tv company. So why they do it is beyond me
If I look at the total picture pro is the winner here. The resolution it not visible that much. But the grass, better .... filtering and frame rates are.
The res is absolutely noticeable. I'm guessing you're watching this on a non 4K display and if so, yes, they would look pretty similar. But they're not.
Tbh no I saw it on my phone. But as a PC 4k gamer on a Samsung q9 65 inch TV I can tell you there is not much of a difference between 1440p and 1800p. The grass and other filtering are more noticeable
Wow all you guys keep saying the videos were switched. No. He just mis spoke. The pro has the better filter and has the grass. The x gave those up to hit higher resolution and maintain frames
@Ashley Ramirez I'm not sure Microsoft has much to do with a 3rd party dev. But there is a line that once you cross it you have to give other things up. So to hit the resolution that they wanted to they had to give up some non essentials. Things that most won't notice unless you do what DF does and go frame by frame and stop and blow a frame up 300% in real time you won't notice the filter issue and you more than likely won't notice the grass issue. But you may notice the resolution difference if you have a 4k tv. If not. You won't even notice that difference.
They probably will since a lot of people are saying it's a good port and in this video they mention it's from a month before launch that they recorded this.
Considering that every single grid sequel up to this one has been shit from a gameplay standpoint, and that the switch version looks worse than the last gen versions: what the fuck are you talking about-do you have proper consoles, and/or a PC for comparison? Are you just a switch fanboy?
@@null_subject The Switch is absolutely my main console, even if I have a steering wheel and an ok gaming pc its still Grid Autosport that I have time for at the moment, whats wrong with enjoying some gaming in portable mode?
I guess you accidentally swapped the comparison shots shown from 5:09 - 5:46 At 5:23 you can also see that the version with grass, has better AF, which makes me question what you said about "better AF on PS4 Pro" previous to the grass comparison.
And it seems that the image on the right has a higher resolution, so I am guessing that the image is not swapped, but that it is the xbox one x version that does not have the grass, and it is possible that (as in the borderlands ) the X version inherits the lower xbox one settings
The X has worse graphics (no grass, shit filtering), they just don't know what they are talking about. The labels are correct, their information is wrong.
TL;DR: The XBox One X version, despite higher resolution, lacks grass, not the PS4 Pro. I'm confused. I thought you mixed up the footage when talking abut the grass, but on close inspection (as much as is possible on a YT vid) the resolution is higher on the right hand side, which means the footage is correctly labelled, it's the script that's wrong.
It would be interesting if you guys talked more about the games sound design, not just for GRID , but for most games that have standout audio in them. Thank you for the great work.
Love how Pro enhanced titles constantly target 1440p yet the Pro wont natively support a 1440p display. It kind of keeps pissing me off over and over again.
I always read descriptions as I start a video, so your update is fine with me, Rich. But as we both can see down here, it seems I may be in the minority. Lord have mercy!
Breath of Fresh Air you don’t need to tell absolutely everyone what happens you’re the one that clearly doesn’t have a life if you have time to post that comment on every post that mentions this
The original grid was a very muted saturation if they're is such a thing.. This remastered version seems to have got rid of that grey which leaves us with the saturation
I've always found ps4 output seems to have its default contrast and saturation bumped up a bit compared to the neutral xbox output, even from launch back in 2013. Makes things pop a bit more (why it was done) but at the cost of realism.
DF messed it up completely. In the retail verision the missing grass has been fixed, as well as some other issues. Now both versions looks exactly the same, except for higher resolution on Xbox One X. Making such comparisons on pre-release versions of the game is just a waste of time...
I recently got the Ultimate Ed for PS4 Pro during the sale. I bought it on X1X at launch and played it a lot. I'm noticing more screen tearing and dropped frames on PS4 Pro, the system fan also gets crazy loud.
Actually the first GRID game was just phenomenal. I played it on 360 controller on PC, it was just so good. Damage physics was just ahead of it's time back then and driving physics was a nice mix between arcade and simulation. Drift was insane tho hah
Sometimes it was a little bit exaggerated, when a carbon fiber bumper would get bend (which makes no sense), but overall it was amazing seeing parts hanging or flying off the car.
@DigitalFoundry, please take a look at the Switch version of Grid, the result is very very impressive! Graphics, controls, sounds... What a job from the devs!!
Looks like the graphics didn't look as bad as I thought before. Sure it isn't as great as FH4, GT Sport, or even DRIVECLUB visually but still it's pretty good looking game.
It looks exactly like Grid 2, which came out 2013 on previous gen consoles, Grid 2 looked amazing when it came out (still looks great), but in 2019 racing games should at least look like Driveclub, which came out 2014...
Please start discussing FPS differences between various VIEWs in the game. Cockpit vs hood vs chase, etc. No legitimate racer drives from behind the car and it looks like most of your FPS testing was done in this view.
Played this game a ton on Xbox One X, but I recently picked up the Ultimate Ed on PS4 Pro during the recent sale. I've noticed way more screen tearing and frame drops on PS4 Pro. I actually never really noticed it on X1X at all. My PS4 Pro also gets ridiculously loud while playing this.
One thing I'm surprised you didn't discuss in the video: what's with the strange hitching every 1,5 seconds? Is that the fault of the freesync? It looks pretty bad, almost as if the game tics were not timed with monitor refresh rates.
I used to love all kinds of racing games but I just cant find any urge to play them anymore since many years back. Strange how it can change . Same with sports games. Never play them anymore but used to love them.
I have very high hopes for this game as the first Grid is one of my favorite racers of all time. The sequels got away from that first game's handling, focus, and sense of fun. I really hope this game is a return to form.
Cmon guys, grid autosport on switch is way more interesting than an early build of this game. There's way more to talk about with that while this is just an easy to video to make I'm sad you guys made zero mention of grid autosport on switch despite the several opportunities you had. It's like you're avoiding it.
Did they have damage set to cosmetic only for this video? Was that for consistency in benchmarks? Cause i'd like to see how it handles when like, multiple cars are crashing and losing wheels and stuff, especially since that's not been shown in any press gameplay yet.
On a Samsung QLED TV you'll have Freesync down to 48fps. As long as they can keep above that number then Freesync users will keep a fluid gameplay experience. Apparently they didn't keep above 48fps all the time, and I'm not saying the severe FPS drops are excusable, but still you do have ways to mitigate this kind of thing on Xbox X.
Grid 1 is my fav Racing game. Shame no other game comes close to it, even Grid 2 or the other racers. I hope this one does, but it doesnt seem to. I loved how easy it was to crash, how much dirt came out of the cars when they went out of the track, how cars got dirty or broken. It wasss soooo cool to see a crash, something i just got to see in Wreckfest. Still, Grid 1 wins even over that for me cuz its more realistic as well.
I've said this in every comment about Grid 1 that it was perfect because it was just as much fun in that game to race the perfect line as it was to total the car. I think they knew it too, because they had no-touch duels as well as a demolition derby, and both felt good. That's when you have that sim-arcade balance just right. I hope this game returns to that.
Maybe there's a similar situation here where the X inherits the graphics quality settings of the base Xbox One and the Pro of the base PS4. Quite lazy of the devs if that's the case
Yep, noticabley worse anisotropic filtering and foliage but then to top it all off no adaptive resolution either to stabilize the frame rate. That exta power counts for nothing when the devs don't put the effort in, the X version should look and perform the best without question.
A 1440p mode on the Xbox One X makes sense, since 1440p monitors are supported via Xbox ironically unlike on the Pro. The game looks like fun and physical damage is accepted with open arms.
Richard please this is a completely different question but please can you tell me what framerate ps2 and xbox fatal frame games run at? I can't find it anywhere online and i am really frustrated....
@jvalex18 U mean 4K is only hard for Multi-Platform games. Sony push PS4 pro past it's limits with 4K checkerboard games. And Microsoft would've had more 4K games if they had more games this gen.
No it's because lazy ass game developers don't want to take the time and effort to do the work right Microsoft and Sony better crack the whip on their asses when the next systems come out
Can we get a tech analysis of Grid on Switch. I bought it a few days ago and it rocked my face off. I'm torn too because it runs at 60FPS in performance mode but graphics mode looks really good at a smooth 30fps. So good that I initially thought the footage of it was fake (ala Xenon on Switch). It's sad it took this long to get a serious racing game on Switch but man, did Codemasters really come through...for the most part (no multiplayer at launch sucks ass no matter how you cut it).
grant4evergamer They’re mentioning PC because the game is very optimized , hence why it can hit 60. GRID is a different game made by different developers
Confused with the grass comment. The PS4 Pro has grass. Just designed differently as it looks like it's got more growth and hasn't been mowed lol Honestly, the graphics difference really isn't that much different. Most people wont even notice if blind tested.
You'd not say that if you have a good 4k display... The shimmer that you get when the TV or console upscales is just so distracting, especially when you have mostly hard edge geometry, unless you filter the hell out of it but then you might as well run at 1080 if you do that.
I don't see why people make a big deal if a game drops from 60fps to 52fps, it's silly. That's like someone complaining their game dropping from 90fps to 80fps.... it's still high enough to be good.
They mentioned something. How the pro can force render at 1080p on alot if games. X should allow this. But since it also supports 1440p, it should also force render at that resolution. It would be a good idea.
I feel like the difference in graphics between Pro and X is actually because the X is more powerful (not in the obvious way). It seems to happen a lot in games actually. Because the devs can push the fps and resolution higher on X there has to be a compromise so I'm assuming that's why there is less foliage and stuff like that. As with the Pro since it sometimes runs at a lower fps and resolution they can push the environmental graphics a bit harder.
I"ll take a dip in frame rate on the rare occasion to not have dynamic resolution since in nearly all cases dynamic resolution is overly done and locks you into lower frame rates when it's not really needing to do so. Gears 5 is a perfect example of this.
That notebook CPU comes back to haunt the 8th generation of consoles. It's obvious this is an early build though so who knows, the problems may be fixed.
Woow look at these Grid 2 graphics, I'm so impressed... The worst part of this is, it's a 55€ game (costs almost as much as a tripple A game) that's 10x the size of Grid 2, even though it has basically the same amount of content and will require a way more powerful PC with like a Ryzen 5 and a RX 580 to be able to run at ultra level of Grid 2 graphics. Are Codemasters joking or what? This is at max a 30€ game.
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5:02 Did you guys mix up the Pro and X footage when talking about the grass? Tom said the X version has grass and the Pro doesn't but in the footage it's the other way around.
i found that weird to
That's exactly what i thought, glad someone noticed it.
Same with the AF comments. Wrong labels
I said the same thing when watching.
@Dillon Sykes "So what Alex refers to as 'grass being completely stripped out' is vertical blades of grass and geometry missing so its more like a texture of grass."
But that what people mean when they say "grass", at least. Not just the flat texture on the ground.
The grass stuff is super confusing...I think you might want to reupload as it puts the entire video into despute.
As does your spelling of dispute ;)
The labels are correct; their information is wrong.
minners71 😂🤷🏿♂️😂👍🏿
Funny, they said tha grass isn't present on PS4 PRO, but the image without grass seems more sharper.
On my CRT, I can see grass on Ps4pro.
Ook
@@PantherCrane lol, you have NO idea what he's referring to.
dude, you still use CRT? Awesome.
Same here, but I think the motion on Xbox looks smoother. ;-)
TroutButter Sorry to hear that you’re a dummy! 🤷🏿♂️
I think for the grass part Xbox and ps are inverted
Even when showing xonex footage later on there was no grass on brands hatch. They made a mistake. The pro is the one with grass
They are not...
@@muzithegreattm3581 they stated that the ps version lacks any grass
No, what they did is much stupider. They lied about the Xbox having grass, when it is the PS4 that does.
I think he misspoke and meant the PS pro has grass. 44% more resolution and less Jaggies on the X!X allows them to push the settings like Grass up on the PS pro. That would make sense anyway. I dnt think 1X has a 44% resolution gap AND higher settings. The X is more powerful, certainly by quite a bit, but not THAT much more powerful.
Are the screens misplaced? You mentioned no grass on the ps4 Pro version but I clearly see 3d grass on the left side where the ps4 pro header is?
You saw ps3 era grass loool
No, what they did is much stupider. They lied about the Xbox having grass, when it is the PS4 that does.
He miss spoke. The pro has the grass the x doesn’t. It’s what was given up to allow higher res and frames
@@shaundavidssd Yes, xbox has ps3 era grass
@@colinr2550 that's what you give up when you are more worried about resolution than game play. To be honest both Microsoft and sony suffer from this. With one difference. I can almost understand why sony does it. They want to push their 4k TVs. But Microsoft is not a hardware or tv company. So why they do it is beyond me
Just recheck that bit about the grass. Your screens show the PS4 Pro with grass.
Labels are correct; their information is wrong.
If I look at the total picture pro is the winner here. The resolution it not visible that much. But the grass, better .... filtering and frame rates are.
What the resolution is very noticeable?
The res is absolutely noticeable. I'm guessing you're watching this on a non 4K display and if so, yes, they would look pretty similar. But they're not.
Tbh no I saw it on my phone. But as a PC 4k gamer on a Samsung q9 65 inch TV I can tell you there is not much of a difference between 1440p and 1800p. The grass and other filtering are more noticeable
@@zybch If you put your face a foot away from the screen yes, otherwise no.
@@zybch I saw it on my 4k tv and the resolution gap is not noticeable from 2mts of distance. Besides that, the 3D grass is indeed noticeable.
Wow all you guys keep saying the videos were switched. No. He just mis spoke. The pro has the better filter and has the grass. The x gave those up to hit higher resolution and maintain frames
@Ashley Ramirez I'm not sure Microsoft has much to do with a 3rd party dev. But there is a line that once you cross it you have to give other things up. So to hit the resolution that they wanted to they had to give up some non essentials. Things that most won't notice unless you do what DF does and go frame by frame and stop and blow a frame up 300% in real time you won't notice the filter issue and you more than likely won't notice the grass issue. But you may notice the resolution difference if you have a 4k tv. If not. You won't even notice that difference.
Will you do a look at Grid Autosport for the Switch? Im really impressed by how it looks and plays!
They probably will since a lot of people are saying it's a good port and in this video they mention it's from a month before launch that they recorded this.
A Google user on a handheld... = impressive
Considering that every single grid sequel up to this one has been shit from a gameplay standpoint, and that the switch version looks worse than the last gen versions: what the fuck are you talking about-do you have proper consoles, and/or a PC for comparison? Are you just a switch fanboy?
@@null_subject friend take your meds, you sound angry.
@@null_subject The Switch is absolutely my main console, even if I have a steering wheel and an ok gaming pc its still Grid Autosport that I have time for at the moment, whats wrong with enjoying some gaming in portable mode?
I guess you accidentally swapped the comparison shots shown from 5:09 - 5:46
At 5:23 you can also see that the version with grass, has better AF, which makes me question what you said about "better AF on PS4 Pro" previous to the grass comparison.
And it seems that the image on the right has a higher resolution, so I am guessing that the image is not swapped, but that it is the xbox one x version that does not have the grass, and it is possible that (as in the borderlands ) the X version inherits the lower xbox one settings
Yes, and the trees also have deeper shadows.
The X has worse graphics (no grass, shit filtering), they just don't know what they are talking about. The labels are correct, their information is wrong.
@@null_subject That doesn't make any sense. The One X is way more powerful than the Pro and both versions got the enhanced patch.
TL;DR: The XBox One X version, despite higher resolution, lacks grass, not the PS4 Pro.
I'm confused. I thought you mixed up the footage when talking abut the grass, but on close inspection (as much as is possible on a YT vid) the resolution is higher on the right hand side, which means the footage is correctly labelled, it's the script that's wrong.
Please READ the DESCRIPTION if you have questions about the grass.
It would be interesting if you guys talked more about the games sound design, not just for GRID , but for most games that have standout audio in them. Thank you for the great work.
The best looking Codemasters game is still Dirt 2, even after ten years!
I guess you are blind.
Yes...👍
Hey guys, love your work and all, but you need to do a reupload where you correct the mistakes made in the voice over. Cheers!
Love how Pro enhanced titles constantly target 1440p yet the Pro wont natively support a 1440p display. It kind of keeps pissing me off over and over again.
I always read descriptions as I start a video, so your update is fine with me, Rich.
But as we both can see down here, it seems I may be in the minority. Lord have mercy!
Grid for Switch tech analysis please!! Great job.
I'll save you the bother. 320p max, 23 fps max, no filtering, blocky textures, no grass. You get the idea :)
@@zybch 💀💀💀💀💀💀
And ios comparison pls :3
@@zybch He's talking about Grid Autosport which is a 360 port. Runs at 720p handheld/1080p docked. Not quite a perfect locked 60fps though.
You're using Switch. You shouldn't bother about performance. :)
Please do an analysis on GRID Autosport for the Nintendo Switch. Would love to see your Analysis and Review of that game.
That game is awesome on the Switch
Cannot wait for the salty switch haters comments .
@@franciscor390 I second that! haha! :P
The grass was on the pro, he said that backwards
Edis Delgado I think the footage was swapped
5:17 !???
Did you label the captures wrong?
No, what they did is much stupider. They lied about the Xbox having grass, when it is the PS4 that does.
Breath of Fresh Air why do you keep posting that exact same comment on every comment that mentions this?
Yea these guys are kinda idiots but that's kinda par for the course when it comes to video game coverage.
470K No, PS4 Pro version has grass
Breath of Fresh Air you don’t need to tell absolutely everyone what happens you’re the one that clearly doesn’t have a life if you have time to post that comment on every post that mentions this
I find the lighting very harsh. A bit oversaturated
Not your TV setting no ,
The original grid was a very muted saturation if they're is such a thing.. This remastered version seems to have got rid of that grey which leaves us with the saturation
I've always found ps4 output seems to have its default contrast and saturation bumped up a bit compared to the neutral xbox output, even from launch back in 2013. Makes things pop a bit more (why it was done) but at the cost of realism.
@@XZ-III Well of course, GTA 4 takes place in a greyish and dull city while in 5 it's more of a tropical sunny city at best.
DF messed it up completely. In the retail verision the missing grass has been fixed, as well as some other issues. Now both versions looks exactly the same, except for higher resolution on Xbox One X.
Making such comparisons on pre-release versions of the game is just a waste of time...
I recently got the Ultimate Ed for PS4 Pro during the sale. I bought it on X1X at launch and played it a lot. I'm noticing more screen tearing and dropped frames on PS4 Pro, the system fan also gets crazy loud.
Actually the first GRID game was just phenomenal. I played it on 360 controller on PC, it was just so good. Damage physics was just ahead of it's time back then and driving physics was a nice mix between arcade and simulation. Drift was insane tho hah
Sometimes it was a little bit exaggerated, when a carbon fiber bumper would get bend (which makes no sense), but overall it was amazing seeing parts hanging or flying off the car.
@@z4v3k Yeah, exactly. But they probably did it on purpose, otherwise we would rarely see the glorious physics engine in action. :)
It’s still a great game and better than this downgrade without those crash physics.
GRID for Switch when?
Outrun for the Sega Master System never had any issues with upscaling.
It had FM music in Japan too.
When are you going to check the switch port of autosport?
@DigitalFoundry, please take a look at the Switch version of Grid, the result is very very impressive! Graphics, controls, sounds... What a job from the devs!!
Lol switch the most useless console ever.
@@minners71 I don't think you even have one to say that
They did an amazing job at porting a bad game from last gen, shame it still looks worse than the 360 version.
Looks like the graphics didn't look as bad as I thought before. Sure it isn't as great as FH4, GT Sport, or even DRIVECLUB visually but still it's pretty good looking game.
It looks exactly like Grid 2, which came out 2013 on previous gen consoles, Grid 2 looked amazing when it came out (still looks great), but in 2019 racing games should at least look like Driveclub, which came out 2014...
Nope. Ego engine easily beats all that Forza and gt. Driveclub, really?? 1080p 30fps vs this?
Doesn't seem like a big difference visually from Grid 2.
Please start discussing FPS differences between various VIEWs in the game. Cockpit vs hood vs chase, etc. No legitimate racer drives from behind the car and it looks like most of your FPS testing was done in this view.
I hope they fix the performance issues in the San Francisco tracks. That's my favorite set of tracks from the original game.
Played this game a ton on Xbox One X, but I recently picked up the Ultimate Ed on PS4 Pro during the recent sale. I've noticed way more screen tearing and frame drops on PS4 Pro. I actually never really noticed it on X1X at all.
My PS4 Pro also gets ridiculously loud while playing this.
got my bowl packed..time to watch a df video about a game I'll probably never play
Won't matter once that bowls gone bro😂😎
One thing I'm surprised you didn't discuss in the video: what's with the strange hitching every 1,5 seconds? Is that the fault of the freesync? It looks pretty bad, almost as if the game tics were not timed with monitor refresh rates.
I used to love all kinds of racing games but I just cant find any urge to play them anymore since many years back. Strange how it can change . Same with sports games. Never play them anymore but used to love them.
Great video guys. Will be interesting to see how the base consoles compare. Game looking great.
I have very high hopes for this game as the first Grid is one of my favorite racers of all time. The sequels got away from that first game's handling, focus, and sense of fun. I really hope this game is a return to form.
I'm somewhat interested! Kudos it been 60 fps on consoles and PS4 Pro almost actually hitting it. Physical copy for me, thanks!
AM Watching this on my CRT monitor. Looks amazing.!!
Uh oh digital foundry you have to comment on “Grassgate”. Did you mix them up, or did you lie? 😂
What's with the Switch Game? Hope you make a video about this
Yeah. We want a video about Nintendo Switch version
Glad the series is back! You should test the normal consoles, more people own those. Either way, I'll play this on pc on ultra :)
Cmon guys, grid autosport on switch is way more interesting than an early build of this game. There's way more to talk about with that while this is just an easy to video to make
I'm sad you guys made zero mention of grid autosport on switch despite the several opportunities you had. It's like you're avoiding it.
Did they have damage set to cosmetic only for this video? Was that for consistency in benchmarks? Cause i'd like to see how it handles when like, multiple cars are crashing and losing wheels and stuff, especially since that's not been shown in any press gameplay yet.
On a Samsung QLED TV you'll have Freesync down to 48fps. As long as they can keep above that number then Freesync users will keep a fluid gameplay experience.
Apparently they didn't keep above 48fps all the time, and I'm not saying the severe FPS drops are excusable, but still you do have ways to mitigate this kind of thing on Xbox X.
Would be interesting to see digital foundry look into Grid autosport on the Switch as well that game looks freaking amazing.
So did you get the footage mixed up or did you mean the PS has folage? because in the video it seems like the Xbox version has no grass.
Did Tom smoke some *grass* before talking about the grass comparision?
Grid 1 is my fav Racing game. Shame no other game comes close to it, even Grid 2 or the other racers. I hope this one does, but it doesnt seem to. I loved how easy it was to crash, how much dirt came out of the cars when they went out of the track, how cars got dirty or broken. It wasss soooo cool to see a crash, something i just got to see in Wreckfest. Still, Grid 1 wins even over that for me cuz its more realistic as well.
I've said this in every comment about Grid 1 that it was perfect because it was just as much fun in that game to race the perfect line as it was to total the car. I think they knew it too, because they had no-touch duels as well as a demolition derby, and both felt good. That's when you have that sim-arcade balance just right. I hope this game returns to that.
Wait...but in the footage it *does* have grass.
I am a bit confused now.
Looks like he meant to say Xbox has no grass, but said PS4 by mistake.
@@strangevision99 Ah yeah! Probably! ^_^
Maybe there's a similar situation here where the X inherits the graphics quality settings of the base Xbox One and the Pro of the base PS4. Quite lazy of the devs if that's the case
Yep, noticabley worse anisotropic filtering and foliage but then to top it all off no adaptive resolution either to stabilize the frame rate. That exta power counts for nothing when the devs don't put the effort in, the X version should look and perform the best without question.
A 1440p mode on the Xbox One X makes sense, since 1440p monitors are supported via Xbox ironically unlike on the Pro. The game looks like fun and physical damage is accepted with open arms.
You guys inverted the screens ? The grass comparison does note with what Thom is dating.
Has this been cleared up yet ?
Really hope you guys doing a MW Beta 4K PS4 pro vs Xbox One X comparison so i could kick in which one to buy it for :)
Shadows appearing right in front of your face is not a thing for such kind of game in 2019. The game looks nice other than that.
Tom mentions lack of grass on PRO and yet the video was showing the opposite. Wrong PRO/XBX labelling on screen?
This isn't the Death Stranding analysis
That would be a great idea, looked like a fun game.
jvalex18 I know, right.
10:30 the wiper pattern doesn't even follow the wiper blade animation, lol
Either all footage was swapped or consoles were mixed when on about grass. Even in when showing fps the pro has grass and x doesn't.
Pro has grass. X doesn’t.
Richard please this is a completely different question but please can you tell me what framerate ps2 and xbox fatal frame games run at? I can't find it anywhere online and i am really frustrated....
Grid for Switch please!
I would like to see a video of the Grid Autosport switch port and Bulletstorm Switch port.
Is this game still going to be on the switch?
Yeah. is very good Grid autosport. trust me
Nope, only one of the old shitty sequel that no on liked, and it manages to look worse than it's 360 counterpart. Have fun.
What's up with so many games in 2019 not using the full power of Xbox One X to hit 4K
Uh maybe because it drops frames and makes the racing experience very unstable.....
@jvalex18 U mean 4K is only hard for Multi-Platform games. Sony push PS4 pro past it's limits with 4K checkerboard games. And Microsoft would've had more 4K games if they had more games this gen.
No it's because lazy ass game developers don't want to take the time and effort to do the work right Microsoft and Sony better crack the whip on their asses when the next systems come out
They better put that grass back in or no buy for me. 😏
XZ III what?
Lacking damage model too.
kraenk12 nonit hs a pretty good damage model parts of cars can come right off like the hood or trunk
Yeah. The lack of grass completely ruins the experience for me, regardless of how good the rest of the game is.
Is it using a bad version of TAA? I've noticed a lot of ghosting like object trails in some scenese
Please do Grid Autosport on Switch
The whole comment section: GRASS!!!
What about Grid on Switch (not the same game, i know) ???
Can we get a tech analysis of Grid on Switch. I bought it a few days ago and it rocked my face off. I'm torn too because it runs at 60FPS in performance mode but graphics mode looks really good at a smooth 30fps. So good that I initially thought the footage of it was fake (ala Xenon on Switch). It's sad it took this long to get a serious racing game on Switch but man, did Codemasters really come through...for the most part (no multiplayer at launch sucks ass no matter how you cut it).
Give me 1080 and a solid 60fps instead of 80% of 4K and frame drops
Its too difficult to do on current gen consoles
I'll take the pseudo 4k and frame drops, 1080p is cack
I'd like to see this 'potato' PC you're talking about that can run Forza Motorsport 7 at 4k 60 fps.
grant4evergamer They’re mentioning PC because the game is very optimized , hence why it can hit 60. GRID is a different game made by different developers
@@unknowinglyfavorite8631 Not really
Confused with the grass comment. The PS4 Pro has grass. Just designed differently as it looks like it's got more growth and hasn't been mowed lol Honestly, the graphics difference really isn't that much different. Most people wont even notice if blind tested.
1440p is fine. The improved detail and filtering make PS4 Pro look way better.
You'd not say that if you have a good 4k display... The shimmer that you get when the TV or console upscales is just so distracting, especially when you have mostly hard edge geometry, unless you filter the hell out of it but then you might as well run at 1080 if you do that.
Arcadey? Because Grid 2 worked out so well.
I don't see why people make a big deal if a game drops from 60fps to 52fps, it's silly.
That's like someone complaining their game dropping from 90fps to 80fps.... it's still high enough to be good.
They mentioned something.
How the pro can force render at 1080p on alot if games.
X should allow this. But since it also supports 1440p, it should also force render at that resolution.
It would be a good idea.
looks and run smooth so far, the final changes might be very subtle at the end
Did the preview have HDR? I can see this one looking especially nice.
5:05
That was mixed up. Either footage was labeled wrong or y'all read the script wrong and didn't catch it.
I feel like the difference in graphics between Pro and X is actually because the X is more powerful (not in the obvious way). It seems to happen a lot in games actually. Because the devs can push the fps and resolution higher on X there has to be a compromise so I'm assuming that's why there is less foliage and stuff like that. As with the Pro since it sometimes runs at a lower fps and resolution they can push the environmental graphics a bit harder.
Meanwhile I'm enjoying a lot grid on the switch, pretty damn cool game
Is it normal that all circuits showed are circuits from old grid games?
I"ll take a dip in frame rate on the rare occasion to not have dynamic resolution since in nearly all cases dynamic resolution is overly done and locks you into lower frame rates when it's not really needing to do so. Gears 5 is a perfect example of this.
King thrash got these dude finally putting some effort into their videos now
Storm-Shadow123 and they still mixed up the grass😂😂
You got the grass bit backwards chief.
Isnt this coming to the switch
Just innocent quest... Does Xbox One X delivers higher resolution than PS4 Pro or there is something else like lighting, shadowns and framerate?
Guys you can stop asking about the grass i think he saw it after the first 200 comments.
Is this a re-upload?
I'm getting Deja Vu.
That notebook CPU comes back to haunt the 8th generation of consoles. It's obvious this is an early build though so who knows, the problems may be fixed.
please grid autosport switch analysis!!!! :):):):)
Where that COD Modern Warfare Beta comparison between Xbox One/X and PS4 base/Pro at?
5:06 - which console has grass? I see it on PS4, and NOT on X, unless labels are mixed up
Really nice video I would really like to also see bus simulator's performance because I am not sure if it runs 30fps stable
You have the videos on screen comparison completely the wrong way round!! Geez DF
df actually NOT ignoring a racing game!?
they covered NFS: Most Wanted on Vita and Wii U
They did GT vs Forza last year. GT won.
Do NASCAR Heat 4 plz!
Can't help but think this video was rushed out.
Woow look at these Grid 2 graphics, I'm so impressed...
The worst part of this is, it's a 55€ game (costs almost as much as a tripple A game) that's 10x the size of Grid 2, even though it has basically the same amount of content and will require a way more powerful PC with like a Ryzen 5 and a RX 580 to be able to run at ultra level of Grid 2 graphics. Are Codemasters joking or what? This is at max a 30€ game.
Man, GRID2 has way better visuals! I can't believe they are going to release so outdated game in 2019
Looking promising, hopefully they iron out some of the performance dips for final release.