The 7th gen Accord is always a good one. The European and Japanese versions are identical with the American version being a different car but with the same interior as the Euro car. The Euro Accord was then sold in America as the Acura TSX with a completely different interior that was then used when the American Accord was sold in Japan as the Honda Inspire. In addition to this I believe in Australia both Accords were sold side-by-side with the European version being the "Accord Euro". What
@@ReubachiThe vid itself is a struggle to comprehend since 1 name is shared between completely different cars in the same market, the rest is up to your imagination
Fun fact, American Passat and European Passat was on sale at the exact same time in South Korean market! American one was called Passat, what a surprise, but European one was called, Passat GT.
Reminds me when Honda did the same in the Middle East back in 2015, they sold both the American Odyssey and Asian Odyssey side to side. The latter was marketed as the Odyssey J to differentiate them apart.
Torkyo has changed the design of his thumbnails recently, It started out as a corsicar ripoff but It's suprisingly distinct now. Personally I wouldn't confuse one for another.
man. as an adelaide lad, living local to the old holden factory, it’s funny hearing the small amounts of shade thrown at holden in each episode. keep up the good work man! i always zoom to each episode!
Vortex is taken! It was the Australia/NZ name for the Subaru Alcyone (JP) or XT (US). I'm also shocked that the Escort and Focus didn't get mentioned. They're both messes, with some generations being the same between EU and US markets, sometimes being different cars altogether, and sometimes selling alongside the market-specific variant, but under a different name. (US Ford Escort = EU Ford Laser, both being a Mazda 323)
9:45 At 2018 in South Korea, the American Passat (NMS) and the European Passat (B8) were sold together. NMS was called Passat, and the B8 was called Passat GT. I have no idea why.
Here in Mexico the Nissan Tsuru, was a Nissan Sentra B13... which sold alongside the B14, and the B15, also the B16, and the B17, oh, and lets not forget also the B18 (for the ones that didnt sold in 2017), and the N17 Nissan Versa, which is also a Nissan Sunny (Sentra's name in Japan)... Yeh. A Nissan Sentra from 1990 literally outlived 4 whole generations lmao
@@TheGuyWhoEditz147 Sorry but Torkyo is literally a team of people spewing out generative slop just to make money, there is nothing creative about Torkyo that anyone else couldn't make in 5 minutes with ChatGPT
@@DerbyshireBangersThat is why Ed's Car Reviews is the best European car TH-cam channel. He has character and interesting stuff to show and tell, all without Wiki or GPT.
Man the Yaris situation is ridiculous it's the Yaris that we have in the middle east is not technically a Yaris but a Vios or Yaris Ativ but it is a Yaris in someway the European one is the real one yet the refuse to sell it to the rest of the world and the American Yaris is just a Mazda 2 man does Toyota love to make simple things complicated in the name of cutting costs
Fun fact every generation of vios don't share front lower arm and shock absorbers. First and second gen use completely different chassis and 3 gen have 3 different types of transmission (manual, 4 sp auto & CVT)
Don't forget that the "Beat" name has two versions: the kei sport car and the scooter (both named Honda Beat), and I know they're different vehicles rather than just cars Edit: I forgot to mention the "GT-R" name (used in Nissan, AMG, and the Honda Supra GT-R 150 (aka the Winner) underbone
Honda also made ATV buggies called "Pilot" and "Odyssey" back in the 70s and 80s. They also made two different cars called the "Odyssey" in the 2000s for two generations, a conventional minivan for the US , and a funky sort-of-wagon for the Asian/European market.
Holy f i completely forgot about the Chevy Beat, the name for 3rd gen Daewoo Matiz/Chevy Spark in India. In fact they sold both the cars at together for 7 years.
You also forgot to mention the Mitsubishi ASX, which is called Outlander Sport in US, except that the second gen in Europe is just a rebadged Reanult Captur, while in the US they still sell the facelifted first gen. It was also called RVR in Japan and Korea and the car that actually looks like the second gen of it is called XForce, but it is only sold in third world countries.
I think its more appropriate to point out the later Holden Barinas were actually Daewoos, in fact at one point the same car was on offer in Australia badged as both a Holden and a Daewoo.
As an Australian, I am deeply fascinated by Holden's rebadge efforts. Other examples include the Holden Cruze referring to the Suzuki Ignis and Daewoo Lacetti, which had previously been a Holden Viva; and the Nova (a Corolla) and Apollo (a Camry) being sold at the same time as their Toyota twins, with the Toyota Lexcen likewise being a V6 automatic-only Commodore.
There's also an expansion to the Passat situation. The Volkswagen Passat Lingyu sold in China during the early 2000s was a rebadged Skoda Superb. (Based on the same platform as the Passat, but with a different body though, which they kept.)
@@FilFee Thanks! I'll have to dig out the car magazine from at least 15 years ago where I first read it, find the journalist who mentioned this factoid and tell them how wrong they were.
Surprised you didn't bring up the thousands of variants that the Camry had between the XV40 and the XV70 lifecycle. In some markets you even got both body styling available, albeit NA body styling being imports rather than official of course.
I don't really think they were THAT different between markets. Vastly distinct styles, sure but they share basic body structures if I remember correctly
@@gluttonousmaximus9048 they were all the same. Camry/Aurion/Altis, whatever. It's just a minor front and rear end difference and maybe some interior differences at most
@@rayton-fissoremagnum3060 oh I agree they were not that different structurally, but I would definitely say the styling was quite different. North American models to me always felt more curvy and direct, while Asian models were more boxy and aggressive
Can't forget about the Dodge Attitude 1st gen was a rebadged Hyundai Accent, 2nd gen was a rebadged Mitsubishi Attrage/Mirage, and now the 3rd gen is a rebadged GAC Empow
Funny story somewhat related to this topic (same name, different brand). Back in the 80's, Chrysler sold its' operations in Argentina to VW. At that time the factory located there was making the Dodge 1500, which was based off the Hillman Avenger. When VW stepped in, they continued production of this model for over 10 years until the VW Gol replaced it. So, during that time VW made a car that had no correlation at all with the brand itself, and that outlived the model and brand that it was based off
gonna throw out the local story - Lada Niva was obviously sold as VAZ 2121 or Lada Niva or combination thereof before 2000s, as a new generation was being developed since the 1980s. it had a limited testing run in 1998-2001 labeled as 2123 but Lada didn't have the means to roll it out into full production, so they sold off the model to GM so it could stay alive. along with the model name so the original Niva was sold as "4x4" (even though that's not even correct as it's AWD) alongside its own replacement labeled as Chevrolet Niva all the way till 2020, when the license ran out and Lada got rights for Niva name and the model back. it was briefly sold as Lada Niva, while the OG was still 4x4. they figured it out by like 2021 or 2022 when both cars were renamed to Niva, but with added "Legend" for the original and "Travel" for the "replacement"
talking about Alfa Romeo, they also sometimes reused the name of their cars. we have 2 version of Giulia, 3 version of Giulietta, various type of Spider (tho that one is acceptable considering that it is a generic name), various GT & GTV (also kinda acceptable), and the name Alfetta or 159 can also refer to two different type of cars. but nothing beat the 33 name as it represent both end of the automotive spectrum (unobtainable supercar and an affordable economy car)
Missed opportunity to mention the hilarious Ford Fusion situation Ford Fusion in Europe (the original Fusion): fuel efficient shopping bag Ford Fusion in North America: first gen uses the same headlight design from the European Fusion but slaps it on a big sedan which is basically a Mazda since it uses Mazda 6 platform and Mazda engines while the second gen is just an uglier brother of the European Ford Mondeo The South American version of the European Fusion on the other hand is a crossover SUV which uses the exact same headlight design as the European Fusion but is a completely different car as it used a whole different body but still somewhat keeps a similar shape to the European Fusion, made just for the South American market while using the very same platform the European Fusion was built on...
Fun fact: Holden used to sell a Barina Cabrio based on the Corsa B in the '90s. UK-spec Vauxhall Novas arrived whole and the roof was essentially sawn off in Port Melbourne
TBF that's an even more confusing rabbit hole. It's technically a Ford Consul Corsair and I know some die hards will claim that makes it a Consul not a Corsair. I'm friends with a bloke who had his eBay listing for a Ford Granada removed because someone complained saying it was an early base model so it's technically a Ford Consul 'Granada' so was misleading.
Excellent video, but I would like to correct that the nms 1 passats are not on pq46 but pq35 platforms. It is a common misconception as many websites documented this. However, by using vw's scan tool, we can see its central electric control module is labeled as pq35. Also the car lacks the pq46's signature "comfort module" which therefore have to relocate the immobilizer into the gauge cluster like any other pq35 cars.
I also find completely unrelated cars with the same name very interesring, think of the: Volkswagen/Maserati Bora Chevrolet/Lancia Monte Carlo Lincoln/Bentley Continental Volkswagen/Holden/Gumpert Apollo Pontiac/Ferrari/Mitsubishi GTO MG/Scion/Chrysler TC Fiat/Phillips/Holden/Lancia/Alfa Romeo Berlina Ford/Argyll/AD Tramontana/Karma/Mercedes-AMG/McLaren/Opel/Alfa Romeo/FPV/Farboud/Citroën GT
@@ingrid67_ There are so many examples... Ferrari/Volkswagen California Dodge/Ford Durango Cadillac/Chevrolet El Camino Duesenberg/Ford(/Many brass era) Model A Jösse/Ford Indigo Jeep/Hillman/Dodge Avenger Dodge/Daimler Dart Opel/Dodge Diplomat Mazda/Mercedes-Benz GLC Dodge/Mitsubishi Lancer Passport/Kia Optima I could go on and on and on...
There's one more Yaris actually, down here in LATAM we got it in Sedan for the latest generation. Which is also a Toyota Ativ, Vios and some Daihatsu variant which is assembled by them on any region anyways.
Love this channel. In particular the editing style and the pace of the information. Length is ideal, animations aren’t distracting but provide a bit of liveliness to the video. 52nd favourite content creator? More like 51st.
The Geo Metro was sold along with the Rover under a different name. We had it as the Suzuki swift and the superb AWD Subaru justy. Our first Ford Maverick was a rebadged Nissan Terrano II . 🇬🇧
@@ziginox I owned two of the second generation Cutlass based and they both definitely were 4WD. Possibly FWD was an option? I know the third euro Toyota / Daihatsu based generation was FWD.
In the 1990s, GM sold a GMC suburban and a Chevy suburban. They are the exact same car with the exact same name. The only difference is the badge on the grill
The first use of the Suburban name was by Pierce-Arrow in 1907 and it was also used in the 50s by Plymouth, DeSota, Studebaker, and Nash. Plymouth actually used the name for a several decades from 1949-1978. Which means that there was a time when (49-78) that there were two manufacturers using the name Suburban in the US.
A curious case i remember around here,the Opel Astra G was sold as the Chevrolet Astra while the Opel Astra H was sold as the Chevrolet Vectra (Vectra GT for the hatchback), meanwhile.. the Opel Vectra B was also sold around here, as a Chevrolet as well. Just more of GM Shenanigans.
5:50 that gen of Pontiac Trans Sport was a Trans Sport only until 1999. so from 2000-2004, it WAS still a Pontiac, however it was actually the Montana. So the only time the EU-spec Trans Sport was actually a Trans Sport was 1997-1999.
Ha yep was gonna say actually a Montana (I forgot the early ones were still badged trans sport). In fact if you look at the van shown at 5:39 you can see the Montana badge
Probably an obvious one but Ford selling the Fusion sedan in the USA whilst selling the Fusion Crossover looking thing in Europe and the UK. Also i recently found that the Aveo was sold in Canada as the Swift+ to make things more confusing.
The Fusion sold in Europe was in fact the first generation EcoSport, which also later came to Europe as well and was a miserable sales failure because it wasn't designed with Europe at all in mind, hence the introduction of the Puma.
@shroomyesc Eco-Sport is an atrocious name for a car tbf too. Puma technically has the distinction of being two cars with the name as well since the original was the coupe from the early 00s and despite what everyone thinks about it being affront to the name I have the puma crossover on lease atm and it's a solid car.
@@naturalborndylla Thank you. For not being like everyone else xD. I understand people being upset about Capri or Mustang being reused on crossovers but I don't understand that same sentiment for the Puma when the original was a rust bucket that nobody really bought, with no real legacy. It's kinda like people getting upset prematurely about Dodge reusing Stealth for an SUV, when Stealth was a short lived rebadged 3000GT, again, no legacy to "ruin". Besides, the current Puma is a fun, cute practical car even if it's "just another small suv"
@@shroomyesc People honestly get wrapped up in the whole "old car good and new car bad" and anti SUV thing. There are a lot of legitimate complaints that can be made about them with regards to pedestrian safety, weight etc but it's often mixed in with childhood nostalgia bait for cars they or their parents had when they were younger. I have a chronic knee issue due to an accident I had a few years ago and my Puma's helped massively with my mobility compared to the Volvo C30 I had before.
Beside the name for Alcyone / XT in Australia / NZ. Vortex has been used as a car brand not once, but twice. First is UK based Vortex Automotive which produced sports car (albeit kit car looks) but it seems they have been dormant. Then there is Vortex SAS, a French based outfit that produced a unique racing cars simply titled 1.0 and 2.0. Speaking of confusing names, how about Colt? Originally appears as a small car in 60s Japan. Most people from Western Hemisphere probably remembers it as a hatchback based on Mirage (unless you live in UK, which Colt becomes the brand name for Mitsubishi allegedly due to people still remembers Mitsubishi from WW2 in negative way). Then there is first gen Delica which is sold as Colt T100/T120 for export. Colt name continued for 2nd gen Delica in Indonesian market (which is still on sale now since 1981). Confusingly the Colt T120 name was revived in Indonesian market as an Suzuki Carry (which is different from the rest of the world Carry) rebadge called Colt T120SS. If you live in South Africa some L200 were badged as Colt as well. To make it even more confusing, Colt name also being used as a variant for Mitsubishi Canter. Then in mid 2000s we got a Colt hatchback, which is brand new design unlike previous Colt hatchback which is Mirage based (oh yeah let's throw in some Dodge/Plymouth Colt rebadge as well). Recently Mitsubishi also sold Renault Clio as... well you guess it, Colt. Another often used name probably the GTR (and variation of there of). Wikipedia list 15 cars that used this name (probably more). This video also reminds me one time I got into argument with some online peeps about Daimler. There are usually two things that pop in your head when you hear that. German or British. You got the Daimler which later merged with Benz then become Mercedes-Benz and for a time the Daimler name is used as the formal company name until couple of years ago. Then there is British Daimler which originally started as licensed manufacturer of German Daimler and became an independent company. It was later absorbed by Jaguar and being used as a more luxurious variant of Jaguar (and made limousine called DS420 which is staple of British dominion). Beside that, there are several more Daimler. You got the Austro Daimler (that is known for hiring a young engineer called Ferdinand Porsche) which later become independent and merged into Steyr-Daimler-Puch and now just Magna Steyr. There are also lesser known Daimler Manufacturing Company in US and Panhard-Daimler in France. I imagine early days of motoring can be confusing if you mentioned "I have a Daimler". Talk about cars with similar name, how about GT3 saga. If you remember first gen Vantage once had a track focus variant called GT3, you know, to honor the actual Vantage GT3 race car. But apparently Porsche claimed they had the right to GT3 name and subsequently Aston renamed the car as Vantage GT12. Apparently this is not the first time Porsche did that, they did the same when fellow stablemate Bentley released Continental GT3 road car and forced them to renamed it as GT3-R. Funny thing is, Porsche isn't the first company to used GT3 name as a road car since Lotus did that with Esprit GT3, predating Porsche by 2 years. It does give me question on trademarks, I assume if you add the word to the already trademark words like "Vantage GT3" that should be okay. But it seems Porsche are against with anyone adding GT3 in their car name.
Honourable mentions for Honda: Honda Beat was a kei roadster in early 90s but the name was revived for budget scooter for Indonesian market in late 00s Honda City was a supermini in the 80s, subcompact sedan in the 90s, Jazz based sedan onwards, and finally reborn as a supermini again as replacement for Jazz in Southeast Asian markets in the 2020s
A fun fact that goes along with this topic: In Australia they had a CHRYSLER Charger in the 70s. The Austrian Charger wasn’t a rebadged Dodge Charger, though, it was a trim level for the Chrysler Valiant (sold in the US as a Plymouth). The Valiant, and therefore the Australian Chargers, were based on the A-Body platform whereas the American Dodge Charger was based on the B-Body platform.
In Brazil, the passat B2 lived alongside the B1 AND the B3 named as Santana. It was also called Santana in China, where it lived alongside many different generations of the Passat
The interesting thing about the "NMS" PQ46 Passat is it is here in the US considered a "B7" but is nothing like the European "B7" Passat as it is longer in length and width than the Euro Passat which is basically a redesigned "B6"
Also , when Opel Corsa was sold in Japan , it's called Opel Vita. As Toyota already using the Corsa name on their Tercel model for years. (You know , back than , Toyota (and in fact also other JDM brands like Nissan and Mazda) tend to sold the same model under different name , though different dealership chains.)
Also there's a Camry situation in Thailand, Australia, and maybe middle east I think. There's two different version of Camry (ACV40 & 50 generations) sold at the same time. In Australia, it sold Australian version of Camry as Camry but sold global Camry as Aurion. In Thailand, it sold Global Camry as Camry, but Australian made Camry was sold as Camry "ESport". Also, Toyota in Japan sell Camry and Daihatsu Altis, same name used for South East Asian market Corolla Altis.
Honorable mention for Mitsubishi Eclipse and Space Star. Eclipse turned into a 2 ton SUV from a technologically advanced sports coupe. Space Star turned from an MPV to a subcompact.
The silver "Honda Jazz" shown here was made by Isuzu and sold here in the USA as the "Isuzu Amigo". Honda and Isuzu did the same thing between the "Honda Pilot" (I once owned a 1995 model) and the "Isuzu Rodeo". Same vehicles, different names.
The last Barina was not a Chevrolet Aveo! In actual fact, the Chevrolet Aveo was a rebadged Daewoo model, and it was the right-hand drive version of this same car which was rebadged as a Holden Barina! Incidentally, GMH (General Motors Holden) no longer exists as a division of GM or as a manufacturer, so in the future Americans may see some of GMH's model names rehashed on the US market! Also, Daewoo, which when it initially entered the Australian market, had very poor safety crash-test ratings for its vehicles, became part of Hyundai! However, while Hyundai and Kia are different vehicle brands, they have since both become part of the same manufacturing corporation, one which also builds ships! Back in 1983, I actually bought one of the first Suzuki Swift cars that were available here in Australia, as it was affordable. That was because it was only a three-door hatch-back, with two seats and a flat cargo-floor in the rear, attracting less import-duty at the time, but not having rear-seats had the advantage of being classed as a 'Lorry' on the registration, meaning I could legally park in loading-zones, which had a 15 minute time-limit on them!
The Mexican market Dodge Attitude! First it was a Hyundai Accent, then a Mitsubishi Mirage, and now it's a Trumpchi Empow (and with 168hp, it's finally fast-adjacent like its Dodge branding would suggest).
So fun fact, Mexico got the Yaris R, which was a Mazda 2 with a Yaris frontplate, this was because they got in an agreement so the plant in Salamanca, Guanajuato will make some Toyota cars. In regards of the Barina, we too have one alike, the Dodge Attitude. It went from an Accent, to an Accent RB, then Hyundai came to Mexico at full pace, so they changed it to a Mirage from Mitsubishi, who by the way, was selling THE EXACT SAME CAR AT THE SAME TIME, and finally it's now an Trumpchi (I'm not kidding) Empow. Which honestly is kinda the coolest and nicest looking Attitudes to date
The latest example that came up to my mind is the Honda Integra here in China is a re-badged civic, whereas the Americans given that name to Acura Integra, essentially a nice-trimmed civic that looks completely different.
Another notable shared name under 2 different manufacturers I have in mind are the Toyota and TATA Harrier. They have completely no relation to each other but they’re both crossovers and have the same shape
The Passat situation is actually even more complicated now, since the CN version of the Passat mentioned in the video has been replaced by a new model named Passat Pro, which is based on the newest EU Passat, just converted into a sedan. This version of the Passat is sold by SAIC-VW, a joint venture between local car company SAIC and VW. On the other hand, there has always been a Magotan model sold by the other joint division, FAW-VW, which was essentially the EU model from previous generations(B6-B8). However it has also been replaced by a new generation, which has a design language currently never seen on any of the Passat variants before. This means the company that originally sold the US version of the Passat is now selling a "supposedly European" model, while the company that was supposed to sell the European model decided to sell an entirely different new product. The Tiguan-Tayron saga is also extremely confusing, since the first generation of the Tayron was sold in china as a standalone version, but still based on a Tiguan product, now replaced by a model both using the Tiguan and Tayron nameplate. A more detailed description would be that: Second Generation Tiguan (AD/BW, 2016): This model had different variants, such as the Tiguan L as a stretched version of a normal Tiguan, along with a 7-seater version named the Tiguan Allspace. The first generation Tayron is based off of this Tiguan, but had different styling and a more sloping rear end. Selling of a Tiguan X, a coupe version of the Tiguan, started when the facelift of the Tiguan was launched. Third Generation Tiguan (2024) This generation of Tiguan is the confusing one as these models, not only is now mixed together, the Chinese Market also divided the Tiguan and Tayron to be sold by different joint ventures. The Tiguan-Tiguan L relationship remains the same, but the Tiguan Allspace was discontinued, replaced by a Tayron (A Tiguan L with Tayron [CN] styling), sold in Europe. The second generation of the Tayron [CN] is still based on the EU Tiguan, but now renamed and sold in the US as a Tiguan. The Tiguan X from the previous generation has not been discontinued yet and is still sold alongside the newest Tiguan L in China. European Market: Tiguan (SWB) + Tayron (LWB) Chinese Market: Tiguan L Pro (LWB) + Tayron (SWB) The Tiguan L Pro is sold by SAIC-VW, while the Tayron is sold by FAW-VW. American Market: Tiguan (Renamed SWB Tayron) Fun fact, a Tayron X was also sold in China as a coupe version of the first generation Tayron SUV, but announcements of a new generation/ replacement hasn't been announced yet.
I thought you were going to mention the Passat CC as well, which in North America was sold as a distinct model without a shred of Passat branding. Unlike the more premium B8 & B9 in Europe, the NA Passat is positioned alongside the Nissan Altima as the absolute bottom of the midsize sedan totem pole, so for VW to convince Americans the CC is an actual nice car it had to drop the name
At first I read "same car, different names", to which I thought about Suzuki (or Maruti Suzuki in my country) Baleno and a Toyota Glanza/Starlet. Then I re-read the title. I still am thinking of the same cars.
I’m surprised you didn’t talk about the Chevy Lumina situation when you mentioned the Lumina APV. The Lumina was also the well known US Sedan that ran for two generations, as well as a sedan in the Philippines that was based on the Chinese Buick Regal. Finally, the Australian Holden Commodore was also sold in the Middle East & South Africa as the Chevrolet Lumina. This Lumina was sold primarily as the regular sedan, but was also exported in its wagon & coupe utility (ute / bakkie). Oh yeah…the Australian Holden Monaro (2 door coupe) was also sold as the Chevrolet Lumina Coupe in the Middle East.
Ford Taurus is another good example: While the 6th gen Taurus was still being produced in North America until 2019, Ford would introduce a new but unrelated Taurus for the Chinese market in 2015, basically a LWB Fusion/Mondeo. After the American Taurus was discontinued in 2019, Ford went ahead and began exporting the Chinese market Taurus to the Middle East later that year as an all-new 2020 model. This Chinese Taurus would only last few years in the Middle East, as a new & smaller "Taurus" was introduced in that market in 2022. This new Taurus being nothing more than a renamed 5th gen Mondeo, also built in China. Really, Ford has plenty of other examples like the Escort, Focus or Capri.
That 3rd Honda Jazz is a rebadged Isuzu Amigo or Vauxhall/Opel Frontera Sport. Didn't know they had a Honda variant but it makes sense since the Honda Pilot started out as a rebadged Isuzu Rodeo.
I'm Canadian and we have a whole wacky world of nonsense rebadged all throughout our history. In the 1950's Ford F trucks and E vans were sold in Canada as Mercury M series'. In the 90's we got several Geo-branded cars that were sold as Pontiac's in Canada only and we even got a sedan version of the Geo Metro (Suzuki Swift) called the Pontiac Firefly. Weirder still, at the same time they tried to sell other GM models as it's own brand called "Asuna" which only lasted for like 2 years and had only 2 models. In recent years there are also strange examples like the Nissan X-trail, which was never sold in the US, although many have since trickled down in the used market.
10:43 There was also the Mazda2 sedan that was sold as the Scion iA, and later the Yaris iA sedan (Mazda2 hatchback also had the iA suffix but dropped it in 2018).
i still see about a 50/50 mix of those gen ford mavericks and nissan patrols in australia. a good read is the Button car plan, it resulted in a ton of weird badge engineering in the 80s and 90s in australia
Ah yes, the Holden Nova and the Toyota Lexcen. The former isn't even the same car as the Chevrolet Nova, since it's based on the E90 Corolla whilst the Chevy is based on the E80, despite both of them being on sale around the same time, and the Corolla-based Chevy Nova here is not the same nor related to the previous Chevy Nova in any way at all. But on top of all of this, there's the Vauxhall Nova, which is NOT related to any of the Novas mentioned above, and is instead a rebadged Opel Corsa. Well done GM, well done.
Not both cars but honda oddyseys and pilots used to be mini buggies in the 70s,80s and early 90s. I have a few and searching for parts sucks got to add in fl350 or fl400.
4:00 Ford also used the Ranger name as a trimline on its F-series trucks in the 70s before they applied it to their very popular version of the Mazda B-series in the 80s. For a while my family had both a massive F250 Ranger and a relatively small Ranger XLT.
The TDI rattle when showing the Passat name. *Chefs kiss*
I came a little
TDIs are the best
@jolanvreys2224 tdis are awesome
As a passat owner that hears that every morning it made ma a little hard
@@ggabriel2530 Must be Stockholm syndrome to appreciate your car sounding like a rattly old farming implement.
the mazda 2 situation is crazy
mazda 6: i am deeply sorry for collaborating with mazda 2 in the past.
Don't forget it was also sold as the Scion iA for a while!
The automobile situation is crazy
2 Mazda 2 Yaris
Is it a shade to GM? 🤔
The 7th gen Accord is always a good one.
The European and Japanese versions are identical with the American version being a different car but with the same interior as the Euro car. The Euro Accord was then sold in America as the Acura TSX with a completely different interior that was then used when the American Accord was sold in Japan as the Honda Inspire. In addition to this I believe in Australia both Accords were sold side-by-side with the European version being the "Accord Euro".
What
I’m ashamed I missed that
@@corsicar_ One for future reference maybe 😉
In Hong Kong both were sold as the Accord. Yeah, they didn’t even bother making a distinction like the Australians.
@@corsicar_ Part 2 someday then?
Yes, the regular one and the Euro one where sold side by side in Australia
trying to stay on track with all this madness with no sleep has fried my brain
Uni the strongest
Mate its even hard for me and its currently midday
What does this comment have to do with this video?
@@ReubachiThe vid itself is a struggle to comprehend since 1 name is shared between completely different cars in the same market, the rest is up to your imagination
Yes, smoke is definately coming out.
Fun fact, American Passat and European Passat was on sale at the exact same time in South Korean market! American one was called Passat, what a surprise, but European one was called, Passat GT.
Reminds me when Honda did the same in the Middle East back in 2015, they sold both the American Odyssey and Asian Odyssey side to side. The latter was marketed as the Odyssey J to differentiate them apart.
Did you have the passat CC as well?
@ yeh both first and second gen
I'm so sorry we sent you guys the miserable nms that thing sucks
in china the european passat is magotan and the american is just a passat
1:37 And so commences the Corsicar - Torkyo beef
Hopefully not
@@Worst_editor4let them fight
Torkyo has changed the design of his thumbnails recently, It started out as a corsicar ripoff but It's suprisingly distinct now. Personally I wouldn't confuse one for another.
@egg0534 I accidentally started watching his video because I thought it was corsicar
there is no battle, torkyo posts stuff to entertain without entering the details. Corsicar is much much more professional
3:25 Bmw iX jumpscares should be illegal
bro fr 😨
man. as an adelaide lad, living local to the old holden factory, it’s funny hearing the small amounts of shade thrown at holden in each episode.
keep up the good work man! i always zoom to each episode!
Holden was a mess. The Commodore was a phenomenal car that honestly deserves to still be around.
But beyond that 1 brilliant model, Holden sucked.
Shotout to Lotus Elise, Elan, Exige, Emira, Evora and all the others for successfully featuring banned letters. They're all memorable too
Plus Ford with the Edge, Expedition, Explorer, Escort, Excursion
Shoutout to Vantage, Vanquish, Valhalla, Valkyrie, Valour, Victor and Virage
Don't forget the Lotus Excel as well!
Shoutout to Nissan for giving the letter Z a good home.
Still waiting for Ford to release the Ford Pénis..... 😂😂😂
11:50 Man im sure glad i got myself a corsicar membership program to brag in the future!
Vortex is taken! It was the Australia/NZ name for the Subaru Alcyone (JP) or XT (US).
I'm also shocked that the Escort and Focus didn't get mentioned. They're both messes, with some generations being the same between EU and US markets, sometimes being different cars altogether, and sometimes selling alongside the market-specific variant, but under a different name. (US Ford Escort = EU Ford Laser, both being a Mazda 323)
I stand corrected, every good name has been taken
You could have an entire video series on the Escort family and all the automakers that sold a version of it and the 323 (Kia, Autozam, Suzuki, etc).
9:45 At 2018 in South Korea, the American Passat (NMS) and the European Passat (B8) were sold together. NMS was called Passat, and the B8 was called Passat GT. I have no idea why.
Here in Mexico the Nissan Tsuru, was a Nissan Sentra B13... which sold alongside the B14, and the B15, also the B16, and the B17, oh, and lets not forget also the B18 (for the ones that didnt sold in 2017), and the N17 Nissan Versa, which is also a Nissan Sunny (Sentra's name in Japan)...
Yeh. A Nissan Sentra from 1990 literally outlived 4 whole generations lmao
1:39 corsicar > torkyo
corsicar is not creative so i like torkyo generally more not saying corsicar is bad
@@TheGuyWhoEditz147 Sorry but Torkyo is literally a team of people spewing out generative slop just to make money, there is nothing creative about Torkyo that anyone else couldn't make in 5 minutes with ChatGPT
@@DerbyshireBangersThat is why Ed's Car Reviews is the best European car TH-cam channel. He has character and interesting stuff to show and tell, all without Wiki or GPT.
@@DerbyshireBangers ok i guess
@@TheGuyWhoEditz147 neither is torkyo then
Man the Yaris situation is ridiculous it's the Yaris that we have in the middle east is not technically a Yaris but a Vios or Yaris Ativ but it is a Yaris in someway the European one is the real one yet the refuse to sell it to the rest of the world and the American Yaris is just a Mazda 2 man does Toyota love to make simple things complicated in the name of cutting costs
Fun fact every generation of vios don't share front lower arm and shock absorbers. First and second gen use completely different chassis and 3 gen have 3 different types of transmission (manual, 4 sp auto & CVT)
Don't forget that the "Beat" name has two versions: the kei sport car and the scooter (both named Honda Beat), and I know they're different vehicles rather than just cars
Edit: I forgot to mention the "GT-R" name (used in Nissan, AMG, and the Honda Supra GT-R 150 (aka the Winner) underbone
Honda also made ATV buggies called "Pilot" and "Odyssey" back in the 70s and 80s.
They also made two different cars called the "Odyssey" in the 2000s for two generations, a conventional minivan for the US , and a funky sort-of-wagon for the Asian/European market.
@@captainzoll3303and the USDM Oddysey was also sold as the LaGreat in Japan alongside the wagonny Odyssey
There's Toyota Supra, and there's Honda Supra (110-125 cc motorbike).
Holy f i completely forgot about the Chevy Beat, the name for 3rd gen Daewoo Matiz/Chevy Spark in India. In fact they sold both the cars at together for 7 years.
@@rayton-fissoremagnum3060 LaGreat lmao that's like naming a car LeNice or DasGood.
You also forgot to mention the Mitsubishi ASX, which is called Outlander Sport in US, except that the second gen in Europe is just a rebadged Reanult Captur, while in the US they still sell the facelifted first gen. It was also called RVR in Japan and Korea and the car that actually looks like the second gen of it is called XForce, but it is only sold in third world countries.
It is also called RVR in Canada.
And the first gen ASX is also a Peugeot 4008/Citroën C4 Aircross in Europe
Idk why I love your voice, it's like you are telling a story and we are just chilling and listening.
I think its more appropriate to point out the later Holden Barinas were actually Daewoos, in fact at one point the same car was on offer in Australia badged as both a Holden and a Daewoo.
As an Australian, I am deeply fascinated by Holden's rebadge efforts.
Other examples include the Holden Cruze referring to the Suzuki Ignis and Daewoo Lacetti, which had previously been a Holden Viva; and the Nova (a Corolla) and Apollo (a Camry) being sold at the same time as their Toyota twins, with the Toyota Lexcen likewise being a V6 automatic-only Commodore.
Holden Frontera & Holden Jackaroo always amused me too
There's also an expansion to the Passat situation. The Volkswagen Passat Lingyu sold in China during the early 2000s was a rebadged Skoda Superb. (Based on the same platform as the Passat, but with a different body though, which they kept.)
Wasn't it the other way around, that the Superb was based on the Chinese Passat?
@@no1DdC The MK1 Superb is 2001, while the Passat Lingyu is 2005.
@@FilFee Thanks! I'll have to dig out the car magazine from at least 15 years ago where I first read it, find the journalist who mentioned this factoid and tell them how wrong they were.
1:39 I saw what you did there
Surprised you didn't bring up the thousands of variants that the Camry had between the XV40 and the XV70 lifecycle. In some markets you even got both body styling available, albeit NA body styling being imports rather than official of course.
Xv55 best
I don't really think they were THAT different between markets. Vastly distinct styles, sure but they share basic body structures if I remember correctly
@@gluttonousmaximus9048 they were all the same. Camry/Aurion/Altis, whatever. It's just a minor front and rear end difference and maybe some interior differences at most
@@rayton-fissoremagnum3060 oh I agree they were not that different structurally, but I would definitely say the styling was quite different. North American models to me always felt more curvy and direct, while Asian models were more boxy and aggressive
Not just the Camry, the Corolla too.
Seeing the Mazda 2 makes the Yaris IA here in America make so much sense now.
Can't forget about the Dodge Attitude
1st gen was a rebadged Hyundai Accent, 2nd gen was a rebadged Mitsubishi Attrage/Mirage, and now the 3rd gen is a rebadged GAC Empow
Funny story somewhat related to this topic (same name, different brand). Back in the 80's, Chrysler sold its' operations in Argentina to VW. At that time the factory located there was making the Dodge 1500, which was based off the Hillman Avenger. When VW stepped in, they continued production of this model for over 10 years until the VW Gol replaced it. So, during that time VW made a car that had no correlation at all with the brand itself, and that outlived the model and brand that it was based off
gonna throw out the local story - Lada Niva was obviously sold as VAZ 2121 or Lada Niva or combination thereof before 2000s, as a new generation was being developed since the 1980s. it had a limited testing run in 1998-2001 labeled as 2123 but Lada didn't have the means to roll it out into full production, so they sold off the model to GM so it could stay alive. along with the model name
so the original Niva was sold as "4x4" (even though that's not even correct as it's AWD) alongside its own replacement labeled as Chevrolet Niva all the way till 2020, when the license ran out and Lada got rights for Niva name and the model back.
it was briefly sold as Lada Niva, while the OG was still 4x4. they figured it out by like 2021 or 2022 when both cars were renamed to Niva, but with added "Legend" for the original and "Travel" for the "replacement"
10:33 - "selling a Mazda 2 that isn't a Mazda 2, right next to the Mazda 2"
Man I love this channel
talking about Alfa Romeo, they also sometimes reused the name of their cars. we have 2 version of Giulia, 3 version of Giulietta, various type of Spider (tho that one is acceptable considering that it is a generic name), various GT & GTV (also kinda acceptable), and the name Alfetta or 159 can also refer to two different type of cars. but nothing beat the 33 name as it represent both end of the automotive spectrum (unobtainable supercar and an affordable economy car)
Missed opportunity to mention the hilarious Ford Fusion situation
Ford Fusion in Europe (the original Fusion): fuel efficient shopping bag
Ford Fusion in North America: first gen uses the same headlight design from the European Fusion but slaps it on a big sedan which is basically a Mazda since it uses Mazda 6 platform and Mazda engines while the second gen is just an uglier brother of the European Ford Mondeo
The South American version of the European Fusion on the other hand is a crossover SUV which uses the exact same headlight design as the European Fusion but is a completely different car as it used a whole different body but still somewhat keeps a similar shape to the European Fusion, made just for the South American market while using the very same platform the European Fusion was built on...
0:30 the cool one
Fun fact: Holden used to sell a Barina Cabrio based on the Corsa B in the '90s. UK-spec Vauxhall Novas arrived whole and the roof was essentially sawn off in Port Melbourne
i stay up at night asking myself why the hell they even made these
The whole "chin" section deserved its own video. Really interesting.
3:50 There was also the Ford Corsair, a british car from the 60s 🙂
TBF that's an even more confusing rabbit hole. It's technically a Ford Consul Corsair and I know some die hards will claim that makes it a Consul not a Corsair. I'm friends with a bloke who had his eBay listing for a Ford Granada removed because someone complained saying it was an early base model so it's technically a Ford Consul 'Granada' so was misleading.
I’m surprised you didn’t mention the the Lexus LS vs the Lincoln LS, both having the same name and sold in America at the same time from ‘99-‘06
Excellent video, but I would like to correct that the nms 1 passats are not on pq46 but pq35 platforms. It is a common misconception as many websites documented this. However, by using vw's scan tool, we can see its central electric control module is labeled as pq35. Also the car lacks the pq46's signature "comfort module" which therefore have to relocate the immobilizer into the gauge cluster like any other pq35 cars.
I also find completely unrelated cars with the same name very interesring, think of the:
Volkswagen/Maserati Bora
Chevrolet/Lancia Monte Carlo
Lincoln/Bentley Continental
Volkswagen/Holden/Gumpert Apollo
Pontiac/Ferrari/Mitsubishi GTO
MG/Scion/Chrysler TC
Fiat/Phillips/Holden/Lancia/Alfa Romeo Berlina
Ford/Argyll/AD Tramontana/Karma/Mercedes-AMG/McLaren/Opel/Alfa Romeo/FPV/Farboud/Citroën GT
and the Chrysler/SEAT Córdoba
@@ingrid67_ There are so many examples...
Ferrari/Volkswagen California
Dodge/Ford Durango
Cadillac/Chevrolet El Camino
Duesenberg/Ford(/Many brass era) Model A
Jösse/Ford Indigo
Jeep/Hillman/Dodge Avenger
Dodge/Daimler Dart
Opel/Dodge Diplomat
Mazda/Mercedes-Benz GLC
Dodge/Mitsubishi Lancer
Passport/Kia Optima
I could go on and on and on...
"I've got one word for you"
>immediately says 2 words
bro dissing torkyo
1:39 Thought we wouldn't notice lmfao
what did he do, pls explain
@@francissanto12that f40 was torkyo. another youtube channel that "bites" corsicar's video format. he was criticised and he changed his style a bit.
This channel consistently drops the quirkiest automotive videos that I had no idea I wanted to watch
There's one more Yaris actually, down here in LATAM we got it in Sedan for the latest generation.
Which is also a Toyota Ativ, Vios and some Daihatsu variant which is assembled by them on any region anyways.
Love this channel. In particular the editing style and the pace of the information. Length is ideal, animations aren’t distracting but provide a bit of liveliness to the video. 52nd favourite content creator? More like 51st.
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I love this topic and can’t believe I didn’t know about the Passat differences between NA EU and CN. Amazing man, thanks for this video.
Somehow this has a more unhinged tint to it than the PAG video. I love it.
The Geo Metro was sold along with the Rover under a different name. We had it as the Suzuki swift and the superb AWD Subaru justy.
Our first Ford Maverick was a rebadged Nissan Terrano II . 🇬🇧
The 4WD Justy was an in-house Subaru design. The Cultus/Swift rebadge was the second generation, and FWD-only.
@@ziginox I owned two of the second generation Cutlass based and they both definitely were 4WD. Possibly FWD was an option? I know the third euro Toyota / Daihatsu based generation was FWD.
The 2nd gen Justy came with standard AWD while the contemporary Swift could have it on the sedan and the GTI in some markets
In the 1990s, GM sold a GMC suburban and a Chevy suburban. They are the exact same car with the exact same name. The only difference is the badge on the grill
And the same car was sold in Australia and New Zealand as the Holden Suburban
The first use of the Suburban name was by Pierce-Arrow in 1907 and it was also used in the 50s by Plymouth, DeSota, Studebaker, and Nash. Plymouth actually used the name for a several decades from 1949-1978. Which means that there was a time when (49-78) that there were two manufacturers using the name Suburban in the US.
A curious case i remember around here,the Opel Astra G was sold as the Chevrolet Astra while the Opel Astra H was sold as the Chevrolet Vectra (Vectra GT for the hatchback), meanwhile.. the Opel Vectra B was also sold around here, as a Chevrolet as well.
Just more of GM Shenanigans.
5:50 that gen of Pontiac Trans Sport was a Trans Sport only until 1999. so from 2000-2004, it WAS still a Pontiac, however it was actually the Montana. So the only time the EU-spec Trans Sport was actually a Trans Sport was 1997-1999.
Ha yep was gonna say actually a Montana (I forgot the early ones were still badged trans sport). In fact if you look at the van shown at 5:39 you can see the Montana badge
@1:50 Still waiting for Ford to release the Ford Pénis..... 😂😂😂
Probably an obvious one but Ford selling the Fusion sedan in the USA whilst selling the Fusion Crossover looking thing in Europe and the UK.
Also i recently found that the Aveo was sold in Canada as the Swift+ to make things more confusing.
The Fusion sold in Europe was in fact the first generation EcoSport, which also later came to Europe as well and was a miserable sales failure because it wasn't designed with Europe at all in mind, hence the introduction of the Puma.
@shroomyesc Eco-Sport is an atrocious name for a car tbf too.
Puma technically has the distinction of being two cars with the name as well since the original was the coupe from the early 00s and despite what everyone thinks about it being affront to the name I have the puma crossover on lease atm and it's a solid car.
@@naturalborndylla Thank you. For not being like everyone else xD. I understand people being upset about Capri or Mustang being reused on crossovers but I don't understand that same sentiment for the Puma when the original was a rust bucket that nobody really bought, with no real legacy. It's kinda like people getting upset prematurely about Dodge reusing Stealth for an SUV, when Stealth was a short lived rebadged 3000GT, again, no legacy to "ruin". Besides, the current Puma is a fun, cute practical car even if it's "just another small suv"
@@shroomyesc People honestly get wrapped up in the whole "old car good and new car bad" and anti SUV thing. There are a lot of legitimate complaints that can be made about them with regards to pedestrian safety, weight etc but it's often mixed in with childhood nostalgia bait for cars they or their parents had when they were younger.
I have a chronic knee issue due to an accident I had a few years ago and my Puma's helped massively with my mobility compared to the Volvo C30 I had before.
Beside the name for Alcyone / XT in Australia / NZ. Vortex has been used as a car brand not once, but twice.
First is UK based Vortex Automotive which produced sports car (albeit kit car looks) but it seems they have been dormant. Then there is Vortex SAS, a French based outfit that produced a unique racing cars simply titled 1.0 and 2.0.
Speaking of confusing names, how about Colt? Originally appears as a small car in 60s Japan. Most people from Western Hemisphere probably remembers it as a hatchback based on Mirage (unless you live in UK, which Colt becomes the brand name for Mitsubishi allegedly due to people still remembers Mitsubishi from WW2 in negative way).
Then there is first gen Delica which is sold as Colt T100/T120 for export. Colt name continued for 2nd gen Delica in Indonesian market (which is still on sale now since 1981). Confusingly the Colt T120 name was revived in Indonesian market as an Suzuki Carry (which is different from the rest of the world Carry) rebadge called Colt T120SS.
If you live in South Africa some L200 were badged as Colt as well. To make it even more confusing, Colt name also being used as a variant for Mitsubishi Canter.
Then in mid 2000s we got a Colt hatchback, which is brand new design unlike previous Colt hatchback which is Mirage based (oh yeah let's throw in some Dodge/Plymouth Colt rebadge as well). Recently Mitsubishi also sold Renault Clio as... well you guess it, Colt.
Another often used name probably the GTR (and variation of there of). Wikipedia list 15 cars that used this name (probably more).
This video also reminds me one time I got into argument with some online peeps about Daimler. There are usually two things that pop in your head when you hear that. German or British.
You got the Daimler which later merged with Benz then become Mercedes-Benz and for a time the Daimler name is used as the formal company name until couple of years ago.
Then there is British Daimler which originally started as licensed manufacturer of German Daimler and became an independent company. It was later absorbed by Jaguar and being used as a more luxurious variant of Jaguar (and made limousine called DS420 which is staple of British dominion).
Beside that, there are several more Daimler. You got the Austro Daimler (that is known for hiring a young engineer called Ferdinand Porsche) which later become independent and merged into Steyr-Daimler-Puch and now just Magna Steyr.
There are also lesser known Daimler Manufacturing Company in US and Panhard-Daimler in France. I imagine early days of motoring can be confusing if you mentioned "I have a Daimler".
Talk about cars with similar name, how about GT3 saga. If you remember first gen Vantage once had a track focus variant called GT3, you know, to honor the actual Vantage GT3 race car.
But apparently Porsche claimed they had the right to GT3 name and subsequently Aston renamed the car as Vantage GT12.
Apparently this is not the first time Porsche did that, they did the same when fellow stablemate Bentley released Continental GT3 road car and forced them to renamed it as GT3-R.
Funny thing is, Porsche isn't the first company to used GT3 name as a road car since Lotus did that with Esprit GT3, predating Porsche by 2 years.
It does give me question on trademarks, I assume if you add the word to the already trademark words like "Vantage GT3" that should be okay. But it seems Porsche are against with anyone adding GT3 in their car name.
Honourable mentions for Honda:
Honda Beat was a kei roadster in early 90s but the name was revived for budget scooter for Indonesian market in late 00s
Honda City was a supermini in the 80s, subcompact sedan in the 90s, Jazz based sedan onwards, and finally reborn as a supermini again as replacement for Jazz in Southeast Asian markets in the 2020s
I think you’re my new favorite content creator on TH-cam. You’re killing it, I love the writing and pacing of the videos and your humor throughout
A fun fact that goes along with this topic: In Australia they had a CHRYSLER Charger in the 70s. The Austrian Charger wasn’t a rebadged Dodge Charger, though, it was a trim level for the Chrysler Valiant (sold in the US as a Plymouth). The Valiant, and therefore the Australian Chargers, were based on the A-Body platform whereas the American Dodge Charger was based on the B-Body platform.
0:50 Jet Set Radio??
I think so!
Yes
I really like the aesthetics of your content
In Brazil, the passat B2 lived alongside the B1 AND the B3 named as Santana. It was also called Santana in China, where it lived alongside many different generations of the Passat
wake up babe corsicar just dropped
12:10 beautiful ❤
3:50 the first one is an Aviator, and the second one is a Nautilus
The interesting thing about the "NMS" PQ46 Passat is it is here in the US considered a "B7" but is nothing like the European "B7" Passat as it is longer in length and width than the Euro Passat which is basically a redesigned "B6"
Also , when Opel Corsa was sold in Japan , it's called Opel Vita. As Toyota already using the Corsa name on their Tercel model for years.
(You know , back than , Toyota (and in fact also other JDM brands like Nissan and Mazda) tend to sold the same model under different name , though different dealership chains.)
I saw that shade 😂
4:00 Let's not forget the Cessna Citation
Also, 9:55 Tere, corsicar!
"I've got one word for you."
*Says two words*
the Capri name in the US was also a mess. cool video!
Also there's a Camry situation in Thailand, Australia, and maybe middle east I think.
There's two different version of Camry (ACV40 & 50 generations) sold at the same time.
In Australia, it sold Australian version of Camry as Camry but sold global Camry as Aurion.
In Thailand, it sold Global Camry as Camry, but Australian made Camry was sold as Camry "ESport".
Also, Toyota in Japan sell Camry and Daihatsu Altis, same name used for South East Asian market Corolla Altis.
0:40 hell nah i ain't
dude if you're not careful you might actually become my number 56th favorite content creator
Honorable mention for Mitsubishi Eclipse and Space Star. Eclipse turned into a 2 ton SUV from a technologically advanced sports coupe. Space Star turned from an MPV to a subcompact.
5:38 Chevy didn't even bother to change the grill to not make the badge look out of place💀
The ending segment with the membership promotion was unexpectedly hilarious, great job Corsiar
we got corsicar and torkyo beef before GTA 6
The silver "Honda Jazz" shown here was made by Isuzu and sold here in the USA as the "Isuzu Amigo". Honda and Isuzu did the same thing between the "Honda Pilot" (I once owned a 1995 model) and the "Isuzu Rodeo". Same vehicles, different names.
The last Barina was not a Chevrolet Aveo! In actual fact, the Chevrolet Aveo was a rebadged Daewoo model, and it was the right-hand drive version of this same car which was rebadged as a Holden Barina!
Incidentally, GMH (General Motors Holden) no longer exists as a division of GM or as a manufacturer, so in the future Americans may see some of GMH's model names rehashed on the US market! Also, Daewoo, which when it initially entered the Australian market, had very poor safety crash-test ratings for its vehicles, became part of Hyundai! However, while Hyundai and Kia are different vehicle brands, they have since both become part of the same manufacturing corporation, one which also builds ships!
Back in 1983, I actually bought one of the first Suzuki Swift cars that were available here in Australia, as it was affordable. That was because it was only a three-door hatch-back, with two seats and a flat cargo-floor in the rear, attracting less import-duty at the time, but not having rear-seats had the advantage of being classed as a 'Lorry' on the registration, meaning I could legally park in loading-zones, which had a 15 minute time-limit on them!
The last Barina is a Chevrolet Sonic, which is sold as the Aveo in Europe and is built on the same Daewoo plant :)
also shoutout to the awful cartoonish holden barina cabrio that they decided to make for some reason (i want one right now)
i really like the more enthusiasm and joke-y aproach with this new video in comparison to the old ones
You say Maverick in Brazil, everyone thinks of the thirsty 70s Maverick
The Mexican market Dodge Attitude! First it was a Hyundai Accent, then a Mitsubishi Mirage, and now it's a Trumpchi Empow (and with 168hp, it's finally fast-adjacent like its Dodge branding would suggest).
So fun fact, Mexico got the Yaris R, which was a Mazda 2 with a Yaris frontplate, this was because they got in an agreement so the plant in Salamanca, Guanajuato will make some Toyota cars.
In regards of the Barina, we too have one alike, the Dodge Attitude. It went from an Accent, to an Accent RB, then Hyundai came to Mexico at full pace, so they changed it to a Mirage from Mitsubishi, who by the way, was selling THE EXACT SAME CAR AT THE SAME TIME, and finally it's now an Trumpchi (I'm not kidding) Empow. Which honestly is kinda the coolest and nicest looking Attitudes to date
The latest example that came up to my mind is the Honda Integra here in China is a re-badged civic, whereas the Americans given that name to Acura Integra, essentially a nice-trimmed civic that looks completely different.
Damn you're Estonian?? I feel like I found someone to watch and relate in terms of country!
1:39 lol thank you.
10:00 RAHHHHH
Another notable shared name under 2 different manufacturers I have in mind are the Toyota and TATA Harrier. They have completely no relation to each other but they’re both crossovers and have the same shape
The Passat situation is actually even more complicated now, since the CN version of the Passat mentioned in the video has been replaced by a new model named Passat Pro, which is based on the newest EU Passat, just converted into a sedan. This version of the Passat is sold by SAIC-VW, a joint venture between local car company SAIC and VW. On the other hand, there has always been a Magotan model sold by the other joint division, FAW-VW, which was essentially the EU model from previous generations(B6-B8). However it has also been replaced by a new generation, which has a design language currently never seen on any of the Passat variants before.
This means the company that originally sold the US version of the Passat is now selling a "supposedly European" model, while the company that was supposed to sell the European model decided to sell an entirely different new product.
The Tiguan-Tayron saga is also extremely confusing, since the first generation of the Tayron was sold in china as a standalone version, but still based on a Tiguan product, now replaced by a model both using the Tiguan and Tayron nameplate. A more detailed description would be that:
Second Generation Tiguan (AD/BW, 2016):
This model had different variants, such as the Tiguan L as a stretched version of a normal Tiguan, along with a 7-seater version named the Tiguan Allspace. The first generation Tayron is based off of this Tiguan, but had different styling and a more sloping rear end. Selling of a Tiguan X, a coupe version of the Tiguan, started when the facelift of the Tiguan was launched.
Third Generation Tiguan (2024)
This generation of Tiguan is the confusing one as these models, not only is now mixed together, the Chinese Market also divided the Tiguan and Tayron to be sold by different joint ventures. The Tiguan-Tiguan L relationship remains the same, but the Tiguan Allspace was discontinued, replaced by a Tayron (A Tiguan L with Tayron [CN] styling), sold in Europe. The second generation of the Tayron [CN] is still based on the EU Tiguan, but now renamed and sold in the US as a Tiguan. The Tiguan X from the previous generation has not been discontinued yet and is still sold alongside the newest Tiguan L in China.
European Market:
Tiguan (SWB) + Tayron (LWB)
Chinese Market:
Tiguan L Pro (LWB) + Tayron (SWB)
The Tiguan L Pro is sold by SAIC-VW, while the Tayron is sold by FAW-VW.
American Market:
Tiguan (Renamed SWB Tayron)
Fun fact, a Tayron X was also sold in China as a coupe version of the first generation Tayron SUV, but announcements of a new generation/ replacement hasn't been announced yet.
I thought you were going to mention the Passat CC as well, which in North America was sold as a distinct model without a shred of Passat branding. Unlike the more premium B8 & B9 in Europe, the NA Passat is positioned alongside the Nissan Altima as the absolute bottom of the midsize sedan totem pole, so for VW to convince Americans the CC is an actual nice car it had to drop the name
At first I read "same car, different names", to which I thought about Suzuki (or Maruti Suzuki in my country) Baleno and a Toyota Glanza/Starlet.
Then I re-read the title. I still am thinking of the same cars.
I’m surprised you didn’t talk about the Chevy Lumina situation when you mentioned the Lumina APV.
The Lumina was also the well known US Sedan that ran for two generations, as well as a sedan in the Philippines that was based on the Chinese Buick Regal.
Finally, the Australian Holden Commodore was also sold in the Middle East & South Africa as the Chevrolet Lumina.
This Lumina was sold primarily as the regular sedan, but was also exported in its wagon & coupe utility (ute / bakkie).
Oh yeah…the Australian Holden Monaro (2 door coupe) was also sold as the Chevrolet Lumina Coupe in the Middle East.
Ford Taurus is another good example: While the 6th gen Taurus was still being produced in North America until 2019, Ford would introduce a new but unrelated Taurus for the Chinese market in 2015, basically a LWB Fusion/Mondeo.
After the American Taurus was discontinued in 2019, Ford went ahead and began exporting the Chinese market Taurus to the Middle East later that year as an all-new 2020 model. This Chinese Taurus would only last few years in the Middle East, as a new & smaller "Taurus" was introduced in that market in 2022. This new Taurus being nothing more than a renamed 5th gen Mondeo, also built in China.
Really, Ford has plenty of other examples like the Escort, Focus or Capri.
That 3rd Honda Jazz is a rebadged Isuzu Amigo or Vauxhall/Opel Frontera Sport.
Didn't know they had a Honda variant but it makes sense since the Honda Pilot started out as a rebadged Isuzu Rodeo.
I'm Canadian and we have a whole wacky world of nonsense rebadged all throughout our history.
In the 1950's Ford F trucks and E vans were sold in Canada as Mercury M series'.
In the 90's we got several Geo-branded cars that were sold as Pontiac's in Canada only and we even got a sedan version of the Geo Metro (Suzuki Swift) called the Pontiac Firefly.
Weirder still, at the same time they tried to sell other GM models as it's own brand called "Asuna" which only lasted for like 2 years and had only 2 models.
In recent years there are also strange examples like the Nissan X-trail, which was never sold in the US, although many have since trickled down in the used market.
A couple years ago the BMW 2 Series for Singapore was a RWD Coupe, a FWD Sedan, a 5 Seat Hatchback and a 7 Seat MPV all at the same time 🎉😂
I'm so glad that I discovered this channel. Keep it up, this is amazing stuff!!
10:43 There was also the Mazda2 sedan that was sold as the Scion iA, and later the Yaris iA sedan (Mazda2 hatchback also had the iA suffix but dropped it in 2018).
That later Chevrolet / Pontiac Trans Sport was sold also as Opel / Vauxhall Sintra in Europe.
i still see about a 50/50 mix of those gen ford mavericks and nissan patrols in australia. a good read is the Button car plan, it resulted in a ton of weird badge engineering in the 80s and 90s in australia
Ah yes, the Holden Nova and the Toyota Lexcen. The former isn't even the same car as the Chevrolet Nova, since it's based on the E90 Corolla whilst the Chevy is based on the E80, despite both of them being on sale around the same time, and the Corolla-based Chevy Nova here is not the same nor related to the previous Chevy Nova in any way at all. But on top of all of this, there's the Vauxhall Nova, which is NOT related to any of the Novas mentioned above, and is instead a rebadged Opel Corsa.
Well done GM, well done.
Surprised you didn't mention the Ford Sierra and the GMC Sierra
Haha, excellent! Never knew this approach angle stuff. The CAFE thing obviously didn't work when everybody is buying huge SUVs and trucks
no one talks about indonesian yaris with european yaris. same name, different platform.
Not both cars but honda oddyseys and pilots used to be mini buggies in the 70s,80s and early 90s. I have a few and searching for parts sucks got to add in fl350 or fl400.
4:00 Ford also used the Ranger name as a trimline on its F-series trucks in the 70s before they applied it to their very popular version of the Mazda B-series in the 80s. For a while my family had both a massive F250 Ranger and a relatively small Ranger XLT.
10:51 I want to propose the use of Yarii as the plural form of Yaris 😤