Ford Mustang Mach 1 vs Shelby GT350R | Walkaround and Details Comparison!
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Now that the Shelby GT350 and GT350R are discontinued, the Mach 1 fills the role as the track focused performance Mustang GT iteration. It is not a full out Ford Performance product like the Shelby models, but it brings various powertrain, wheel and tire and aero components from the Shelbys. I had a Mach 1 non-handling pack for a week so we lined it up with my GT350R for a walkaround and details comparison video! We take a look at the differences in styling, how the engine and transmission compare, interior differences/similarities and a few more details. If you are shopping for a new Mach 1 or considering a used Shelby GT350, this video will hopefully help highlight how they compare!
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Coyote is a way more reliable and mod friendly engine than the Voodoo, but man.. that flat plane crank sound is just amazing. I also prefer the 15-17 headlights and taillights personally.
Facts the gt350 voodoo looks better but it ain’t worth the money got better go get a coyote or 13-14 gt500
@@troymccoy2654 even the 5.8 Trinity is a bitch to mod besides basic shit, if you need a really mod friendly motor 5.0 is the way to go.
Yeah the new headlights and taillights just don’t look right to me
@@stevenlopez5152 I agree
This is a GT350R, it’s not a modders car, it’s a purpose built track car. It’s a drivers car. And Ford spared no expense to make it absolutely perfect. It would ruin the car if you modded it. It’s not meant for a straight line, like a whipplecharged 10 speed S550 Mustang is. It’s perfect, if you whipple a 350R you’d ruin it. But the regular GT350 it is kind of a shame that it’s not as mod friendly as a 5.0, but this ain’t no regular GT350.
The aerodynamic bits such as the splitters, diffusers, skirts, and spoiler, the brembo brakes, the steering feel, the weight reduction, the dampers and magnetic suspension, the carbon fiber wheels for rotating mass reduction, the sticky CUP 2 tires for ultimate grip, these are all upgrades that Ford put onto the GT350R over the regular GT350 which doesn’t have any of these track package goodies. The result? A ballistic missile on a track, and you still get the GT350’s 526 horsepower naturally aspirated 5.2L Voodoo motor (the best sounding V8 of all time), and you still get the upgraded manual transmission. So at the end of the day you’re left with probably the most lively drivers car on the planet. Nothing is more enjoyable to drive, especially around a track. And it’s a Ford Mustang that you can buy for less than one hundred grand. However, it is extremely violent, unrefined, brash, and there’s no comfort or luxury. So if that’s what you want but a purpose track built Porsche. But that’s the point of this car, it’s what America does best. 🇺🇸
It’s naturally aspirated for a reason. Because naturally aspirated cars are more fun to drive. I own a modified Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG with a 600 horsepower 5.4L supercharged V8. It’s got over 700 lb-ft of torque. It hits peak torque at 2,000 RPM’s then dies off the more you go through the rev range. Which sucks. You get a punch in the gut, and sat back in your seat early, and then torque dies the faster, and louder the car gets.
With this GT350R a big reason it’s such a fun car to drive is because all things considered, the sound, and precision yes. But most importantly, it’s naturally aspirated. As you push the gas pedal in more, the torque just builds and builds. The louder the exhaust gets, the more you get sat back in your seat, the higher the engine revs, the more you get sat back in your seat, the faster you go the more you get sat back in your seat, all the way up to a 8250 RPM redline. If you boosted this flat plane crank V8 it would completely ruin the driving experience of this car.
Man, I just love the GT350 look. Recently I took mine to a race track, & that thing glided through it with ease. I love it love it
I just went through the process of evaluating which one was right car for me. Found a 19 CPO R for same price as Mach 1 and am happy. Mach 1 is a great car but the R is spectacular.
the Shelby fenders look way better ..but I do like the deep sound of the Mach
I’d take the 350 over anything!🔥
Eddie, never sell that gt350...ever. I'm still heart broken over the gated R8!
I had a 69 Mach1 428cj back in the early 70s. I'm glad they went back to that basic shape and ditched those fox body things.
Even with that fat block that car I had was well balance and was unbeatable on the street.
I saw one of these on the street a few weeks ago but could not get near enough to really scope it out so I'm not sure what model it was but it sounded bad. He was driving it hard.
I heard that the frame under the front was also borrowed from the GT350 and the frame under the rear from the GT500?
We need a back to back on track/ drag!!!!
I asked Ford Performance why they did not put a different engine into the Mach 1 and this is waht they said "Mostly the engine choice was due to the timeline of the S550 and when the Mach 1 was placed within that timeline. There was no room for a unique engine for the Mach 1 given the S650s fast approaching release."
Will watch video cause I support your channel and appreciate the content, on this comparison tho it’s not even close that Mach 1 is a parts bin, the Shelby is so much better.
Well I certainly appreciate the support
Lol, the fact that it's a part bin is the whole point. They took all the best bits of every mustang model.
While your stuck on the side of the road with a gt350 my Mach 1 gonna be lasting a lot longer. No overheating, no clutch problems, same exact frame, more reliable engine.
@@gunsandgaming7634 2019-2020 model 350/350R dont have those issues. I personally have a 2018 R and mine never had that problem n yes i drive tf out my car n daily drive it cuz its JUST THAT GOOD. Adding more power irresponsiblely n driving like dick to your car is why people fuck their cars up.
Except Car and Driver just did there lightning laps 2022 and the Mach 1 posted a better time around Virginia International Raceway than the 350R. So by much better what do you mean? Slower around a track doesn't fit the much better than category.
I love that Leadfoot grey.
The mach 1 is missing the "IT" factor that the gt350/voodoo provides. It's not something you can just ignore between the 2. I would still potentially own a mach1 but I would debadge it all and relable it a Boss 302
Flat plane crank ftw!
That would dishonor the 2012/2013 Boss 302s that were badass!
@@johnwalker5622 how soo? Would it dishonor the 60s Bosses too? Or just the 21 and 13? I don't see how it dishonors anything really. It's actually got a '302' cubic inch engine in it where the 12 and 13 DID NOT..... not that's dishonor in my book....
@@THEDriverMod_ The 12/13 Boss 302 had a 5.0 (roadrunner) as well, which is 302 cubic inches. I'm not sure what you think it had. It wasn't a slap on sticker package like the 2021 Mach 1 is. It had a specific development team and specific parts. No other car had the specific parts the Boss 302 had. Roadrunner built engine, quad exhaust, etc. Best handling straight axle etc etc.
@@johnwalker5622 The new mach one gets the Shelby subframes and tranny with twin disc clutch. GT350/Bullitt intake mani too along with the tranny cooler and oil cooler. I'd take one over the 2012 any day.
Is the shelby gt350 have wider front fenders? I know the gt500 is wider than standard gt
As an owner of a 2021 Mach 1, I'd rather own both the GT350R and the Mach 1.
What I find interesting that no one talks about, is the fact that the stock MANUAL Mach 1 on the dyno makes 460 to the wheel, while rated at 480 hp by Ford. Also, the stock GT350 makes about 460 to the wheels while Ford says it makes 526 hp... kind of interesting. Auto Mach 1 makes 410 on dyno. Fact check me if you dont believe it. Ford may just be trying to protect the Shelby name, and replacing voodoo with a non-problematic motor.
People who are saying the 350 is on another level are so misinformed. Look at the track numbers. Car and Driver just did their lightning laps 2022 and the Mach 1 posted a faster time than the GT350R. The GT350 made better time on the straightaways but that makes sense where as the Mach 1 handled the corners better which makes sense.
Why would a GT350R be slower than a mach one in the corners. The GT350 was developed along with the FP350S which was made to race. It also weighs less and has more grip. The driver is the one to blame for it losing.
Wonder how the Ecoboost high-performance handles when driving back to back with these
Handing is pretty good, the sound and power are the killer.
They say it handles better because it's lighter with the Focus engine.
@@twany442 that's what I imagine! Wish I could drive all 3 back to back
Hey man, how do you like the PS4S tires on the 350? I have been contemplating it for a while but I’m reluctant to swap out the tires that were special designed for the car…
For street driving (including a trip to tail of the dragon) and mild track driving they are fantastic
Lots of ppl have installed a digital dash in their s550s
GT350 best looking mustang of all time IMO. Idk how fords gonna top it..
Or, you can take your Non-handling pack Mach1, throw $7500 worth of Steeda suspension and braces and camber plates, and a set of LMR MPH1 10x19’s and 11x19 with 285/35R19 fronts and 325/30R19 rears and a slight lower with Steeda magneride springs and sway bars. Now you have one pissed off looking Mach1. The bigger wheels and tires with the Steeda stance mod gives this thing a great look.
Great video! The Boss had a roadrunner engine, no?
Yes!
GT350 just looks better to me, more hardcore looking too, but the Mach 1 is better on the track? I envy the guys that get to have a hard choice to make.
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What turned out to be the 2021-23 Mach1, should have been the next BOSS 302! The Mach1 should have been something similar to the Mopar Drag Pack. The Mach1 should have been a more Drag Strip focused Package or Model with a N/A 5.2L cross plane engine based on the GT500 mill, with optional Supercharger. It could have had larger Street Drag Radials and slightly skinny front wheels and tires. It wouldn't need the Diff and Trans Coolers but would have a shaker hood scoop and unique spoiler and nose, it would also have different transmission tuning, suspension,and maybe an electric locking rear diff. more for straight line racing. It would have been great for those guys who race 1/4 mile at a time, and my '22 Mach1 would have been a BOSS like it should'a been.
Do not hate I love my mach1 yes it is a automatic , , but it does everything I want it to do & more I’m impressed with it ,,
I just bought an automatic mach 1 yesterday hahah. I love it so much
If you’re gonna compare to the gt350r. You would need the Mach 1 handling package
Never heard a single mustang GT owner say anything positive about the MT-82.
The Mach1 is the car I would buy if looking new today. But the 350 looks so much better. 350 hands down. I am admittedly biased. I own a 2018 350.
There’s no Bias about it, the GT350R ranks among one of the most lively drivers cars of all time, especially around a track. That has a lot to do with the 5.2L voodoo motor. It ranks among the best sounding engine of all time, certainly the best sounding V8 of all time.
Or you buy the regular Mach 1 and buy the GT500 wing and it is a direct fit for any Mach 1.
What size tires are on the gt350r?
305s up front. 325s out back.
I wonder what the cost would be buying a Mach 1 and supercharging it vs buying a GT350R? Yes, I know you would void the warranty and all that, but still just curious.
About $10k-$15k which includes parts and labor. If done by Ford warranty is still valid. Roush also provides its own drivetrain warranty. A used 350R is going to cost you $75k-$90k. You can buy a brand new mach 1 and get to 700hp+ under $65k.
Gt350 and 350r is a 100% track circuit car. People roll race them and wonder why 10 speed 5.0s beat them.
Buying a GT350 to roll race is like buying a miata for the leg room lol. Absolutely agree.
Shelby fenders for the win.
What wheels are on your GT350R? I really like them.
Signature Forged!
@@EddieX SV710 Sahara Brushed Sand, is that right? What sizes? They look amazing.
@@traxiii I think SV705. Reach out to Terrance and tell him I sent you! He is the expert, fitment is perfect instagram.com/signature_mustang?
@@EddieX Thanks, they are not far from me, but I'm afraid to ask him how much. LOL!
@@traxiii cheaper than oem carbon wheels for sure haha. But also a good price for actual Forged wheels vs like a set of HREs. And better than flow Forged/cast wheels
One sounds quit a bit meaner.. 😮
Have you had any engine issues on GT350?
Luckily no
The gt350 looks significantly better than the Mach 1
Although I enjoy the sound and feel of the 5.2 shelby, its a bit expensive for what it is in todays market. A simple tune will make the mach 1 slightly faster than the gt350. (GT350 is only slighty faster than the 5.0) There is also the reliability of the 5.0 coyote and cost of repairability vs the 5.2 voodoo. If I was interested mostly in using it for track days and had money to blow, the GT350 all they way. If I was more careful of my money and wanted a great daily driver as well, mach 1 all the way. In 2015 the GT350 vs a Mustang GT was a no brainer in terms of performance(although way more expensive). But today a recent gt350 and a 2021 Mach 1 to me are too similar, and its obvious that Ford made it an indirect replacment for the GT350.
Idk man. I bought my 350r back in March just before they started getting scarce and blowing up and I could sell mine for 15k more than I paid for it.
I was hoping the cobra would be auto
Debating between getting a new Mach 1 (have an order placed, but it'll be at least 3-5 months) or finding a used GT350R. My main concerns are reliability of the 5.2L and the 5.0 having a much bigger aftermarket. I'd personally rather have the Mach 1, but I'm impatient, and part of me wonders if I'll ever get it with all the supply chain issues going on.
Reliability? Coyote over Voodoo. Better engine as far as toughness and reliability goes by a country mile. The 350R is something special but the upkeep on them is crazy, the wheels are super expensive, the spitter too.
C'mon man. GT350 all day. Maybe I'm biased. #2019GT350!
The 350 will go down as one of the best car Ford has ever made
Agreed
I prefer a Catfish Mach 1 with a Tremec 3160.
Id buy the Mach 1 over the Shelby. I like the thought of having the tremec without the Voodoo and not having to change out the rims on the Shelby like you did.
A base 350 doesn't have the CF wheels like the R version. I personally didn't remove the CF wheels when I had my R, seemed stupid to pay more to get an R only to remove one of the most unique parts of it.
Just get a 350 Track/Tech pack, same car and not a parts bin special lol
Mach 1 is considered a Ford Performance vehicle per Ford Performance.
gt350 look and sound can't be beat. just sucks owning a gt350 is a gamble.
Mach sounds tougher.
I’ll stick with auto on my Mach 1 way faster
rear seat delete option in a mach 1 is
ZERO $$$
not 250, lol
dont know who told you that.....
10:40
The Shelby GT350 will always overshadow the Mach 1....End of story. Time will show how correct this is
The Mach 1 looks angry and raged, where as shelbys have more of a sinister smile kinda of look.
Well said
Brakes n handling much better for gt350
Same though
The Shelby looks so much more menacing
The handling pack adds to that for the Mach 1. But I do agree lol
@@EddieX have you thought about boosting your car? I have a 19 R all black and I really want to do the whipple genV along with OPG upgrade.
@@MStrange88 I really really don't want to. Little interest. If I wanted that I would get a GT500. I know some people have done it, the TT builds are very cool but not appealing to me
@@EddieX I totally understand. My father is telling me to leave it too but man… to have 700+ whp on the top end and add some much needed bottom end to flog it around the turns and backroads sounds like a lot of fun. I also own a fireblade so I’d like to close that power gap a little bit lol
Why is the Mach 1 so expensive? The CAmaro SS 1LE is 45k and essentially in the same tier as the mach 1 for almost 15k less. A ZL1 1LE would smoke this car
The aerodynamic bits such as the splitters, diffusers, skirts, and spoiler, the brembo brakes, the steering feel, the weight reduction, the dampers and magnetic suspension, the carbon fiber wheels for rotating mass reduction, the sticky CUP 2 tires for ultimate grip, these are all upgrades that Ford put onto the GT350R over the regular GT350 which doesn’t have any of these track package goodies. The result? A ballistic missile on a track, and you still get the GT350’s 526 horsepower naturally aspirated 5.2L Voodoo motor (the best sounding V8 of all time), and you still get the upgraded manual transmission. So at the end of the day you’re left with probably the most lively drivers car on the planet. Nothing is more enjoyable to drive, especially around a track. And it’s a Ford Mustang that you can buy for less than one hundred grand. However, it is extremely violent, unrefined, brash, and there’s no comfort or luxury. So if that’s what you want but a purpose track built Porsche. But that’s the point of this car, it’s what America does best. 🇺🇸
The only two things of that first statement the 350R got over the 350 were the weight reduction (minor) and carbon fiber wheels. Tires I can buy on my own. The rest it is missing is the wing and minor suspension updates.
@@supralyfe1206 wut
Flat plane crank always wins
No comparison, GT350 all day...not even close.
Except the Mach 1 posted a faster time around Virginia International Raceway than the GT350R. Go and look up Car and Driver lightning laps 2022 yourself if you dont believe it.
@@predatorshelby5780 Yeah and a base GT beats a Bullitt, which is the same thing as a Mach 1. Mach 1 guys have to CONSTANTLY defend their poor buying decisions. Just face it, they are victims of easy Ford marketing and there's no way a Mach 1 beats a GT350R on a constant basis. That's just common sense. I guess a Mach can beat Jeff Gordon too.
You’re crazy if you turn down the 350 for the Mach. Smh
You flogged your car when doing the exhaust comparison. You hardly touched the pedal on the Mach 1. You should have given the same amount of stick.
I like the deeper sound of the Mach 1 more but the GT350 is still amazing.
I hardly touched the pedal? Lol
@@EddieX hang on I watched this on my phone let me watch it again on my TV with the surround sound turned on 😄
@@EddieX oh yep that sounded way better. My phone couldn't handle the bass 🤣🤣 great video. I love your GT350R, the colours you picked are awesome. I wish they sold them in Australia.
Mustangs you sit to high and feel to floaty
I lowered mine on eibach sportlines and added cosmetic downforce mods. Gets rid of the body roll and car feels planted. Way better than stock
Not the case w/ the 350R
Gotta admit, the 350r looks like it is all riced up. Cosmetics are FUGLY!
Ok
LOL you arent even comparing comparable models.
Yea LOL
Camaro 1le’s are much more better driving vehicles
Yes but you can't see out of them
1LEs are also the ugliest of the 3.
I agree. I am 6ft tall and have no issues seeing out of it. The seat actually lifts and lowers too. Granted it’s no Mustang but after 3 drives I got very used to it. I just think that for the money nothing is beating a 1LE. Guys are porting their Superchargers on the 1LE and taking the fight to the GT500 in a straight line too. The GT350 is an easier car to drive on the limit because of the lower torque figures but the 1LE simply beats it everywhere. I am completely unbiased because I love mustangs. I wanted really bad to buy a Shelby but 1LE just made more sense for me. At the end of the day tho, we’re really just splitting hairs and all of these cars are wonderful.