Buzz goes LARGE: VW ID. Buzz LWB 7-Seater FIRST LOOK | Electrifying
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It’s no secret that we’re a bit in love with the Volkswagen ID. Buzz here at Electrifying.com. It’s a practical family car with a sense of fun and is beautifully designed. Add the big dose of nostalgia we feel whenever we get behind the wheel and you have one of the most engaging and fun electric cars on the market.
But even we will admit that it has limitations. Despite its vast size, buyers of the launch model have only been able to have five seats, while the 77kWh battery doesn’t exactly sit will with long distance hauls. But here is the version which seems to have the answers. It’s the Buzz with more bus - as it’s a longer, bigger, and faster seven-seater.
Perhaps most importantly - Volkswagen is FINALLY fixing the infotainment too!
The Buzz we are used to - which is now called the ‘normal’ wheel base - is 4,712 mm long. This Long wheelbase version measures an extra 250mm between the wheels.
That additional 250 mm is partly taken up by bigger doors 192 mm, and a little bit extra between the door and rear wheel. The bigger doors also have electrically sliding windows now too. The bigger Buzz can be used as a five-seater with a huge boot, a six-seater with individual seats and armrests in the second row of seats and as a seven-seater.
A three-seater bench seat is used as standard in this second row of seats. The backrests can be reclined by 16 degrees to make it more comfortable, and the bench can be moved forwards and backwards by 200 mm, either completely or in sections
In the five-seater configuration, the load up to the upper edge of the backrests results in a volume of 1,340 litres - about the same as a mid-size SUV with the seats folded down.
The long-wheelbase Buzz will be available with two battery sizes. The first is the 77kWh which we have already seen. But a new, bigger 85 kWh pack is also available, which comes with a more powerful 282 bhp motor. That improves the 0-62mph time by 2.3 seconds to 7.9 seconds.
And that's not all: an all-wheel drive version called the GTX will use two motors to give an output of 335 bhp will be coming later in 2024. That will have a GTI-like 6.4 second 0-62 time. The battery can be charged faster too, at up to 200 kW at a suitable DC charger, meaning a 10 to 80 percent top up takes 25 minutes. To speed things up even more, it features the Tesla-like "Plug & Charge" system which means the activation and billing is automatic, without the need for charging cards or apps.
There are no official range figures yet for this model and we have to be honest, the efficiency of the Buzz hasn’t been the best when we’ve had them. But there is a new heat pump to increase efficiency in colder weather.
Join Ginny as she takes a close look around the new Volkswagen ID. Buzz LWB ahead of its arrival in the UK next year. What do you think? Should this version been part of the range from the start? Do you think it’s still missing some features? As always, let us know in the comments below.
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Sorry, for a second there I thought you said there's a subscription for ambient LIGHTS. I do not want to meet the person who pays for that, actually, yes I do. I've got a bridge to sell them.
The subscription is for the extended choice of colours and is probably part of an extended package or something.😊
I can't believe more people aren't commenting about this, and aren't fuming. Even the presenter quickly moved on like its normal.
Whose building these? The WEF? You'll own nothing and be happy.
I deleted all vids in my watch later on this vehicle as a result.
Imagine if some brand like MG sold an affordable bus EV without the ludicrous markup of VW. They'd sell like hotcakes.
Have you checked out car prices lately? An electric Renault Kangoo starts at 40k€...
They've got their Cybster sports car all wrong, so don't expect them to do anything sensible with regards to a van
Why you always want it cheap?Would you like to work for way less?The ID Buzz is worth the money!
@@brunoheggli2888 I'd want it cheap because there is no reason it should be so damned expensive and like most people price matters. The ID Buzz normal version is mechanically almost identical to an ID.4, sharing the same platform and yet it's £20,000+ more for what reason? This is just ludicrously, piss takingly expensive and if VW want to gouge people then there is open opportunity for other manufacturers to sell a similar vehicle for a lot less money.
@@phuketexplorer Unless there is something fundamentally broken in the car when it goes out for reviews, I think the Cyberster sales will be off the charts.
The California price will be MENTAL.!
Sure,they produce cars to make money!
I'm glad USA has gotten it's priorities straight: Illuminated grille logo is allowed, but not matrix headlights, which is a matter of safety.
😂😆
either is a simple at-home swap, i'm sure. but the illuminated emblem will likely be cheaper. the headlights however will likely be easier to install.
Headlights on some vehicles here in the US are downright dangerous. I wouldn't dare drive my wife's Jeep Cherokee at night, the headlights are about as good as strapping a couple of candles on the bumper. But the Daytime running lights and all other external lights are LED, go figure.
At home swap, have u any idea how much a swap would actually cost, thousands. Americans don't care about safety, that's why they have armed guards at schools. They deal with the aftermath of their ignorance
many of these led matrix headlights are so blinding to other drivers, they are really dangerous. Its easy to tell a Model Y is behind you, cause you have to move the rear view mirrors away to be able to see the road ahead of. Please ban those headlights.
I originally thought of getting an ID Buzz but the Vauxhall Combo Life Electric is good for camping as a micro camper is available from Wheelhome.
I have only had my Buzz for a week (which is great)and was worried i would want to upgrade to the LWB as soon as announced but the battery isn’t much bigger and it’s main negative for me the rear bench seat is just the same-
I’m afraid I find the Buzz interior uninspiring compared to an original Espace TSE, which you could have with captain chairs and turn the centre row seat into a table. Instead this is not much more than a smart estate car to me, hopefully Renault maybe come along with a new Espace, Buzz is a nice car though enjoy.
New heat pump?! Yay - hoping that goes across the ID family.
Can't wait for the driving video. :)
I like both the short wheel base and lwb, very cool and stylish, can`t wait to see these on the roads.👍
No swivel captain seats?
I love the Buzz, i hate the exorbitant price.
Early May, we went to Electricbrands in Eppertshausen where the Xbus is developed.
That one has more potential to be affordable for the masses, with a starting price of €18.000.
9 different models with a Cabrio, a Kipper and a Camper model with a range up to 600km and with solar panels standard. Probably will be build starting this year at VDL netcars in Netherlands.
Increasingly heavy, wastfull and obese EV's are not the way to the future. Lightweight is more common sense.
I agree - I love the design and principles of the xBus and the Canoo - we really don't need GT versions of cars that can out-sprint a Porsche. We need lightweight, modest-speed and modest-priced transport.
This looks great. It won’t be cheap though! Be interesting to see how it compares with the EV9 on efficiency.
I'd like to see first what the aftermarket has planned. I'd like to see a jumpseat replacement for the center console. VW can't do it because airbag and seatbelt requirements, but there's no reason the aftermarket can't sell you one for "offroad" purposes only. Same for cargo. Want to see tie-down rails. Would have LOVED if they did a split tailgate so we could have hauled long stuff without losing our middle row or obstruction rear visability.
Why concentrate on making it quicker off the lights? People who buy a people carrier or campervan, just want to load it to the gunnels and get from A-B, and not be charging every 90mi. It’s a load carrier for goodness sake, not a track-day racer.
200ish miles and that would be in the baking Cali weather, with nothing inside other than a driver. What a buyer needs to know, is what it’ll cover fully loaded, on a non-Cali winter’s day. Reckon on halving any notional EPA stated range.
Hi, you mentioned there will be up to 6 isofix anchorage points in the lwb version. Does this mean there will be 5 individual seats like a multivan T7 and also isofix in the front passenger seat?
@gavincarter3425. She hasn't done her homework properly. It's only 5 isofix anchor points. (Centre middle row does not have isofix).
The EV9 is the pick if cargo capacity is more important (trunk space behind the 3rd row is double that of the Buzz. Buzz is the pick if passenger room is more important (sacrifices some cargo room for legroom and such), especially in the third row.
For me, that likely means I'd go with the Buzz, but realistically, I'd not be that likely to get either of them in the near future, so who knows? They might both be superseded before I'm in the market.
Is it available in New York
Will be the new heat pump implemented on SWB? Also, why 77kwh version uses weaker motor when ID7 77kwh version uses 210kw one? Makes no sense since new motor should be more efficient. Will in future with new revisions VW update the SWB with 210kw one?
😊 my name is buzz. I would have to have one. I think I would have the short wheelbase but it would have to be the all-wheel drive with a lot more speed with a lighting up badge 😅
Easy choice for me, LWB Buzz all day long 👍🏻
Stfu.
LWB is not necessary for 3 row seating. It's ridiculous. It's the new NewBeetle
I would definitely go for the ID BUZZ. Its far better looking plus there's a big hit to the classic models.
does it have regen?
Do the seats fold flat to sleep on?
Anxious for the California version!!!!
Fantastic Car
Where have you been Buckley?
England isn't in Europe, so i'll be having that illuminated VW badge thank you very much.
Who is the target segment and use cases? Huge families and thats it? Who do they compete with at these price levels - Rivian ?
GTX long wheelbase, twin motor, big battery, get a move on VW😊 I want this now
which will probably cost 90 grand
@@amanasd26 For the base model.
Nice !
Yes!
I've been waiting for this, keeping my venerable, though fully kitted Espace IV ticking along for long enough to be a very early waiting lister... However, Only 2 ISO Fix for the middle row.
Instant worry until at least one is out of a booster.
Absolutely gutting. Still stunning, but actually no more practical - but at least it's electric.
Are you sure about the Isofix anchorages? She mentioned six, so all seats except (luckily) the driver seat.
HANG THE HELL ON. Did you say "Subscribe for ambient lighting"?
What? Really?
Seeing the Buzz in the metal confirms it is a great looking EV. But subscriptions? That is ridiculous for an already expensive vEVhicle
Will it drive 500.000 km as my 2006 T5 multivan has with The same engine ? How many batteri do I have to change over The next 17 years ?
Ive waited for a year for mine and with still no build date.
I will definitely go for Buzz i love sliding doors and elevated sitting , would gone for sienna ev , but Toyota is not making them apparently
Does Ginny come with the Buzz as an optional extra.........?
This is still behind what the Sharan offered in terms of practicality. We had 5 individual full size seats in the back, which were great. I've no faith in VW getting the touch screen nonsense sorted either.
Does its Size and weight mean it is too large and heavy for city visits.
I want the Samba version with 23-window like the classic
It’s clear to me that the VW is the one it would complement my T4 camper van and VW Golf .
Can it Tow? Will it have better efficiency than the 2kW/Mile that some owners reported! And Im sure the software will have no Bugs (Pun Intended)
The 7 sea to buzz looks very cool.
No price indication??
Better… the Buzz VW should’ve built in first place (5-seater never made any sense to me!). Couldn’t afford one, but I’d expect this to sell well!
I'll be waiting for VW to introduce the short version in the US. Wonder when that might happen?
never, ... i think :(
I have the multivan PHEV, and that is miles ahead of this for practicality. If they can make the multivan with electric drivetrain, I'll swap over. 90% of our journeys are electric only at the moment with the hybrid.
As much as I love and covet the VW ID.Buzz… I lament that I likely will never have one in my garage. It sounds like the supply will fall way short of the demand, with huge price tags and dealer markups. More importantly: is there no "Westfalia" camper version in the works? Then, we'll have to pass. There are only two of us in our retired household, and only if a camper is available would we sell our house to get one. 😞
Since the range is lacking, its great to have 6 people that can push the car for you to the nearest charger.
Kia or Volkswagen? Well if the vw does not get cup holders in the mid and back rows it's gonna be Kia all the way. I have noticed that no you tube promoters have talked about this in their presentation including yours. These details are important. I do appreciate that you elaborated on the all wheel drive version. Thank you. That is new information that many skip as well. Vw needs to be ahead of the game as well by showing extras like roof racks, solar packages, towing, etc.
Ginny, thank you for the intro to the New LWB ID Buzz. Just wondering why you didn't comment on the opening rear windows that many complained about on the 'standard' ID Buzz? The rear doors do have a hatch, don't they?
Gotta firm up that range ... 280-ish miles is a scary number ...
Camper van buzz will be huge
Which ever i can fit bikes in!
Ok this is BETTER than the current UK version - the panoramic glass roof and an actual opening window in the rear is a worthy addition plus the illuminated logo - price is going to be prohibitive probably £80k - USA are getting a 91kwh battery - when even an iPace has 100kwh I think they should’ve just gone for 100kwh especially as it struggles to get 2.5miles/kWh - the California camper will end up over £100k how did we get here - people wagon ? I think not lol
Love this review too th-cam.com/video/U_wB-b6kQdY/w-d-xo.html shows more detail of the US version
Volkswagen......people’s car is what it stood for. No more at these prices
What the hell are you on about? We are getting all the specs and we are getting more in Europe.
Depending on the price and the range, I would've thought this might sell like hotcakes. But if VW screws up on either of those (and the infotainment system, and their stupid subscription model), it won't.
I always find it strange that BHP is always mentioned when Torque is usually the impressive number with electric motors. It's the huge Torque that gives you the kick in the pants feeling.
I did look it up for the higher powered version
413 ft lbf = 559.95 N·m
Horsepower affects insurance rates and is thus important when buying or comparing vehicles.
@@DeezjaVu Torque is important to me and many others, so just include it.
Also it's a people carrier, torque is definitely an important number. I did think why mention the 0-60 for a bus, surely the bigger motor is for the extra weight that will likely be in the long wheelbase.
Not just big, but instant. The overwhelming number of people driving, drive on streets, where getting up to the speed of traffic is very useful, but going really fast is seldom safe or practical. Also, one pedal driving is great, because lifting off the pedal is faster than switching, and pushing down, so you don't have to brake as hard.
Who understands torque, no one. That's why
i can't wait
❤
Buzz goes large indeed - well the price will be extremely large and the range extremely low. Notice they haven’t said anything about range in the press release.
Its just normal that a Minibus has a high windresistents!Whats wrong with a high prce?
Value for money is low
where's the camper version tho?
all seats should be individual and i hate the fact you need to subscribe for lights....
You didn't cover off on whether the rear passengers get to open their windows or not and if they get air vents either in both 2nd & 3rd row only the USB ports available. As for Buzz or Kia, definitely the Buzz far better looking.
Does it run the same software as the ID4? If so, no thanks! - Zoomer
They could easily have fitted 7 seats in the short version. 7 seats in many smaller vehicles
Battery tec isn't there for range,so 7 people with cargo in the winter with the heater on, = 7 stops to charge v 1 for a frugal diesel
VW should really make the gasoline/hybrid version of this minivan.
An excellent option would be ID BUZZ with the battery capacity and power of the EV9
Needs proper opening passenger windows and much improved heating controls, plus maybe knock £15k off it then you'll have a killer,. As it is, it will be the latest toy for the Jones and minicab companies like Addison Lee...
85kwh is useful, but slightly disappointing as the largest.
Finally a vehicle worthy of being copied by the Chinese. I like it!
Everyone wants da vee dub camper van.
Looks lovely, but is it too wide for U.K. parking and some roads? Will the U.K. be insulted with only 3 year warranty?
Pay a monthly fee for extra interior colors that I've already paid for? Is this what "E-Cars for Millions, Not for Millionaires" means?
I would go for the Kia EV9 every day of the week.
How much ?
not much!
I am going to hold my breath until one is actually for sale at my local dealership..... 1 year, 2 years, 3 years... am I blue in the face yet??
If it had a much better range and was was a Tesla it would be on my list.
I wont be a Tesla because obviously it rides better and probably better build than a Tesla :)
25cm longer ? Why not just fit a larger battery to the one already available ? You can fit a 230V inverter yourself easily to any car, 300W is only 1.3 Amps. After market inverters can output 2kw (2000W). Based on the Buzz available now at 3 miles per kw the 85 kwh battery will do 250 miles but not on a motorway. No prices for longer wheel base but it will be over £60k.
Letting you know in the comments below.
This is a commercial, not a review.. Why?
Let's guess... it is massively expensive and there is already a 12mth+ waiting list....!! So sick of VW's pathetic low production rates....
Yeah, if VW had the capacity (and the benefits of scale to reduce costs) this could be VW best work. VW is just a couple of years behind the EV curve.
They don’t want to build these in volume as they don’t make any money on them. It’s a deliberate marketing ploy which is going to work as it’s a very desirable car but ridiculously expensive for what it is.
@narvuntien Nice if they were a couple of years , but clearly they have made the management decision to produce 5% of output as BEV... Thus choking their own sales and their own customers.
I think they only made BEVs to pretend that they are committed to electric whilst continuing with their ICE and dieselgate disgrace.
And a range of 150km
@@Brotherbear75 No, it will be more like 170 miles per charge.
Lots of talk but I couldn’t see range, efficiency or price displayed clearly on a quick skim through
What was the range again? 77kWh battery is too small
Yeahhhh ... with 150km of range when fully loaded ?
Hopefully after purchasing 5% of Xpeng, VW electric smart system will get better. Didn't hear or read anything on smart phone access, smart phone remote control, voice control, smart assist driving, etc...
Is it a real affordable, no-nonsense workhorse like the original: no. I was more interested in the Sono Sion who seemed to be taking the affordable, utilitarian, practical, barebones approach...until investors pulled out.
You can buy them as basic to,but real cheap isnt possible without slave labor!
Kia ev 9
Bloody haptic feedback buttons on the steering wheel.. 😖
it will be the Buzz Word
Love the iDBuzz. Go on all the yummy mommy’s swap out the Range Rovers. Scary 0-60 that should have went retro with the speed and kept it like the original 0-60 that was - eventually if your lucky. Let’s stop this subscription rubbish, nip it in the bud before we have to pay to switch on the main lights or Radio….
The only interesting thing ids unknown: what will be the REAL range. 230 miles (wtpf) will be in reality 70% = 161 miles = 260 km. Which is ridiculous.
6 isofix? how?... there is no isofix in middle seat 2nd row, does driver seat has isofix?... innovative...
It all depends on the pricing, I guess most ppl will take the ev9,
This choice has my head buzzing however I am leading to the EV9. I am terrified of the actual prices they will be sold for and that they will. Be targets for theft
The ev9 v2h/v2g is a total game changer
@@akf2000 what about it makes you say it's a game changer ?
Every video quoting how many litres of space. Just put suitcases in!
Let's see. Oh that's right. It's out of everyone's budget, except the very rich. Nice one. 😒
I will always take an MPV over an SUV, especially one as cool looking as the ID Buzz - compared to the BUZZ, the KIA looks like a fridge on wheels...
I like the cat but it doesn’t seem as practical as the sharan. Why can’t this have three adult seats. It is like a normal car but a big one. Then this cost an arm and a leg.
EV9