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The Volkswagen ID. Buzz. Depending on your point of view, this is either an icon reborn for the electric era… or a rather expensive electric van with extra seats.
The reason why we’re revisiting the Buzz a year on is because things have changed. Quite a bit. Not with the Buzz itself - that’s pretty much the same. It’s the bits you can’t see that have changed. Unless you’ve been living in a skip for the last 12 months, you’ll know that the electric car market has been turned on its head.
We’ve gone from there not being enough cars for buyers… to there being not enough buyers for cars. Which for us is A VERY GOOD thing.
Let’s start with availability. When we first went live with our original video, you couldn’t get a Buzz for love nor money. Believe me, I tried both. If you wanted a two tone car like this, Volkswagen was quoting a delivery time of… a year and a half. And if you did want to jump the queue and get one immediately, well… you’d be looking at shelling out more than seventy five grand. Yep, Buzz fever was kinda nuts.
Today, that’s all changed. According to Volkswagen, if you order a new one today, you’ll get it in around 12 weeks. Not 12 months. 12 weeks.
And it’s not just the lead times that have changed. The finance situation is also quite different to what it was just 12 months ago.
If you’re a private buyer and use Volkswagen’s own PCP scheme, you’ll get a £5,500 deposit contribution without even having to haggle. Volkswagen like to dress this up as a ‘dealer contribution’, but let’s be honest here - it’s a five and a half grand discount. Which you certainly wouldn’t have got a year ago.
And if you’re a business user and want contract hire, you’ll be looking at £399 - plus VAT - a month for one of these. That’s pretty good.
Join Nicola as she takes a second look at the Volkswagen ID.Buzz.
Volkswagen ID Buzz
Battery: 77kWh
WLTP range: 250 miles
DC Rapid charge: 175kW
AC charge: 11kW
Boot: 1,121 litres / 2,123 litres
Towing: 1,000kg
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My wife has a Buzz. Tomorrow, I have been invited to go shopping with her, because Buzz will reach 10 000 km after 418 days of ownership, which is an average of almost 24 km a day. She might even be treated to a waffle and a cup of coffee in the village.
Yes, we are happy with Buzz. Not ecstatic. Yes, the software could be better, and it could come equipped with more (lighted) buttons. Yes, the range could be better, but we have never charged away from home. No, we do not feel a need for a GTX version, 4WD, more power, more torque, more seats or a longer wheelbase. We like the white interior, especially. Because of our advanced age, this is the last vehicle we will own. It is two tone, yellow and white, for sentimental reasons. On our honeymoon we rented a yellow VW Rabbit. Yes, I would have preferred signal yellow to lime yellow.
youv been ripped off
😎
@@carlishiggins Or maybe he doesn’t care as much about getting the best of the best and he just wanted a vehicle that connected to him and his wifes past and that also works for their situation.
@@carlishiggins I'm thinking of getting one for the sheer fact that the buzz can serve a purpose that most evs do not size, volume and flexibility. It might be expensive but it is not a rip off if it can do what it was designed to do for you.
Many years of happiness enjoying your car.
16 months and 22,000 miles traveling all over the UK and France in our Buzz… we absolutely love it! 😎👍
Aerodynamics of a supermarket 😂
And the colour and styling of a Tupperware box ;-))...
Could be worse, could be the breeze block on wheels, that is the Kia EV9.
@@dcvariousvids8082 Go back some 55+ years ago and I had a plastic toy car that were better designed than the EV9 ;-))...
Or a church
I couldn't care less about aerodynamics. I'm not playing at being a race car driver.
Haters will always hate, and nothing will change that. But I love the Buzz. The look of it makes me smile. Ok, so not perfect, but is anything?? I would LOVE one!
Our thoughts exactly!
Buzz is great car. People just want to complain.
I hope you get one soon. They are a happy car
I just got myself a barely used ID Buzz with 6000 miles on it one month ago, two tone fully specced for £45,000 here in Norway. The same car brand new with the same specs would be £58,000. It's an awesome drive, and one of the very few options for EVs that fits three child seats in the back. The problem with the 6-7 seater options on the future ID Buzz and other current models is that that leaves very little space for storage in the back. Two strollers + luggage in a car that also has to fit into a normal garage? Impossible.
Also, the range isn't too bad. I get about 200 miles on winter tyres and in Norwegian winter temperatures, but the Norwegian official car assosiaction mixed test route got 235 miles during their summer test. We have an extensive EV fast charging network here, and everyone also have a 6 Kwh charger at home. So basically, for everyday driving you won't need to fast charge, and for longer trips you usually only have to charge once. I've calculated that the cost per mile charging at home vs. filling up my previous car with petrol is between 4-5 times cheaper, which really adds up in the long run!
I have had a Buzz for the last year and love it. It is really practical for carrying lots of stuff, and enjoyable to drive especially for longer trips.
The range I achieve is 200 winter to 240 miles summer. Whilst not amazing it is certainly fine and I’ve travelled up to the North of Scotland in it no problem.
Where from though, Glasgow? 😜😄
200 miles in the winter is plenty. My Volvo XC40 doesn't even get close to that and I've done roadtrips of 1000 km/day. As long as it charges fast enough which it does, it's not that big of a problem.
And she's definitely right about the 'turning your head' part, I always do that when I see one of these on the road.
@@BenCG South coast of England 😀
I can confirm that. I went from my city 10 miles west from Antwerp to Amsterdam and back without needing a top up. In winter it's a lot less, but heating the car before you depart saves a few kWh. Have it now for almost a year, number of issues: zero, except for small anoyances with the software.
I do enjoy Nicola's reviews - great fun
It looks brilliant, but £50,000 for a 200 mile range is a bit steep. I’m tempted though because it looks so bloody cool. 😊
and when you compare it to something like toyota sienna its borderline idiotic proposition.
I love the Buzz but with the facelift that its coming with the GTX version it's clear that the passenger version wasn't actually finished when it went on sale. The new version has proper MPV folding/removable seats, rather than the bench stolen from a T6, air vents for rear passengers and opening rear windows - most of the stuff it should have had from the start. All sound small, but they make a big difference to the usability of it.
I looked at the GTX, the seats are not removable which is a shame.
Part of the brilliance of the buzz is that it's based on a car platform and is as refined as a car, as the stiffness of the car etc was mentioned in the video. Yet it has the passenger van space. The EQV might be more luxurious and better in other ways but a big critique on that is the fact it's still based on a commercial van and you can feel it. I dont like anything else that Volkswagen makes, but I love the Buzz.
Great to hear a positive review, thanks Nicola.👏 Had my Buzz for a year now and love it. Just wish the 1st Edition had those electric doors, as manually closing the rear door is a pain - it’s heavy and you have to put your hand on a dirty door. Passengers also struggle to close the side door from the inside, especially if it’s the last door to shut. Range hasn’t been an issue as it charges fast, and I need to stop for a wee and a coffee after 3 hours. Efficiency isn’t great averaging about 2.8m pkWh so it’s more of a Waitrose supermarket than Aldi. I would say it feels wide though, so car parks are a worry that you’ll get door dings. The car park exit chicanes can be bad news for your rims and the 21’s do give a harder ride than the smaller wheels. I would go down a size if I had a choice. Performance is plenty enough, and like with most EV’s you are long gone at the lights without trying. Infotainment is fine. Occasionally slow to connect to CarPlay but otherwise it’s still better than any other car I’ve had.
A few flaws that I can forgive, I love it!!! 🥰 I still crave for those electric doors though 😢
Don't really get the problems with range. It's about the same as our 58kwh ID3, and we've taken that all over the place including France and Belgium. With two young kids, we never have to wait for the car, it's always ready to go before them, and it has to stop less often than them. Sure, having to stop every 150-200 miles will slow down someone on a business trip or a long commute, but a young family? Not at all. And most of these will be used for family holidays.
Same. We have an ID3 too and the range is about the same (not the efficiency though!) Agree that 200 miles is plenty. That’s at least 3-3.5 hours on the road and you need a comfort break, coffee and food. In the 30 mins it takes to do all that it’s got another 3 hours in. Like you said, I’ve never waited. The journey to my mums 250 miles away, takes the same time as it did in my ICE cars. And costs a fraction if you minimise public charging.
6:48 - Snorted my tea laughing. 🤣🤣🤣
This is my first time seeing you do a car report. I love your presentation! you are so down to earth, sound knowledgeable, and easy on the eyes! I will continue to wait for the ID BUZZ in the US!
Ours has just arrived, my 6.1 California has gone. They are like night and day, VW finance contribution of 7K! Lovely
I suspect that when the Mk II comes out, the improved battery chemistry will make it a much more attractive proposition for the range anxiety/huge bladder crowd.
🤣🤣, nearly peed myself laughing at that. Now I'm on the wrong side of the mid sixties, got to drain the old bladder more often 😂
Was on vacation with our ID Buzz in Southern France from our Home in Denmark, that’s a 3600 km return trip plus around 1200 more down there, and we had no problems with the range partly due to the fast charging and very flat charging curve. I never sorry about range any more, and it’s the best car I have ever owned. Bought it used for very little, and its inexpensive to use in daily life. I smile every day.
We love our Buzz, got a demo model and a very good trade in on old diesel so the deal made good sense. Its so practical, swallows anything, you can camp in it comfortably and the top spec which we have has everything you need on it. The electric sliding doors should really be standard on all models though, especially for families with kids. If you can get a nearly new one now you'd be getting an amazing bargain. Don't worry about the range - we top up for an hour over night cheaply and then on the occasional motorway blasts just plan a stop, I mean who's driving for more than 2 hours without a break anyway. It charges fast too. The 7 seater and GTX models look great, might wait for a nearly new one of those before swapping...
I fell in love with the Buzz the first time I saw it. After having tested it for a couple of days last summer, I'm totally lost. I have been an electric car enthusiast for many years. Currently, I'm into my fifth and sixth EV, an ID3 and an Ioniq 5. The latter one, I'm pretty tired of after three years of ownership with many ups and downs. Now, as the Buzz is getting cheaper, with lots of campaigns going on, I'm honestly starting to consider buying one. I can't get it out of my head anyway. The VW salesman tried to push me towards an ID7, mostly because of the better range. The price is about the same. The ID7 is indeed a nice car. They gave me one over the weekend, two days of playing around, but I just couldn't fall in love with it. It is just a car, anonymous and boring. When I turned it back to the dealership, the first thing I did was walk to the Buzz again. That's the one I want, I said.
I don't care so much about range. It's nice to have, but I had cars with way less range and way slower charging speed, and I never felt that I needed more. The only real disadvantage is the limited towing capacity, which all ID cars have in common.
Never seen you so excited about a car as much as this !
I dunno, have you seen her review of the Scenic. Like a child in a sweet shop.
I have a buzz cargo and even with all my plumber kit in the back can do 235 mile on the motorway. Hoping for more as the weather warms up. I think it down to the driver some can get a lot more than others. I don’t drive slow and have it sport mode all the time.
The software is better now but still got a long way to go to complete with others .
A great review. Very informative.
I've seen a few ID.Buzzes on the road, and they are visually striking things. Definitely a head-turner. If Volkswagen can improve the range and reduce the price, they could have a winner here.
Thanks for an excellent, entertaining review. I hope VW brings this van to Australia soon. Have a nice day.
Please don't set fire to a car by lighting a BBQ in it. At the right price, this will be the right car for many.
I wouldn't have one but I'm also glad they exist, I do smile every time i see one on the road
I actually really like that you start with the figures before showing the car. Often I can watch car reviews and think ‘this is amazing’ then you find out the price tag / PCP and realise I just window shopped and wasted 15 minutes of my time.
04:46, that’s the Gesture control feature or when Nicola does it, the Waft.
I could watch Nicola review a wheelie bin. Such a great presenter 👍🏻
I've had my Buzz since the start of January on a very good lease deal - in many ways I really like it, on the basic technical side it's very enjoyable and most things work well enough (not to buy at £65k mind you! My lease is £300 a month). But. The build quality is awful - I've got a big rattle behind the dash, the door cards vibrate and rattle like a 20-year-old van (not a VW one - a colleague's T4 feels very solid in comparison) and everything below that dash is pretty commercial grade with sharp edges and low rent materials. It's really spoiled the experience and I know there's no point complaining to a dealer because these things never get fixed.
thanks for the review
In a big test of winter conditions of ev's in finland, the Buzz inexplicably took 220m to stop from 60km/h on ice. where every other tested car stopped in under 100m. something not right with the car :/ also, if the range is bad in the UK climate, can't imagine it being very good in proper -15c or -20c temperatures
Wrong tyres?
It’s heavy.
I think before VW significantly improved the range of the Buzz(the larger battery is only announced for the long version so far) there will be something like EV9 chassis with MVP type body. The only question is whether it will be under the Kia or Hyundai brand?
"Look how big the back is in here"! Proceeds to put the only back row of seats down.
Another fun and informative review from our Nicola, playful and beautiful to boot just the highlight of my day. Keep it coming ❤
Wish it had a 3rd row to make up for the Tiguan allspace which I love and can't replace
@@nicolamaye3489I believe the 3 row is coming to America, not sure if they're going to be available on this side of the Atlantic and would it be worth their while making a right hand drive version for us
I am looking forward to the next iteration of the SWB version, and the introduction of the GTX and LWB, as I think this will further knock the residuals of the early release version, and be a pretty cost-effective second hand buy.
I think the SWB would make a great day-van, whereas the LWB will be rather more sought-after for semi-camper use.
Ahj, I can look for a month at the VW ID Buzz, but it still starts at 1.5 times my year salary, (before tax takes 35% of it.)
So, with that €26k, after living, food, cloth etc. I can save around €2500 a year. Whow, just 25 years of savings. . . .guess that wont work.
Saw the camper van version at everything electric last W/E, £93k but it was beautiful!
Strange how you couldn't get one when they were released and just 18mths later they are on special offer everywhere!! I wonder if they will devalue like the Porsche Taycan?
They'd have to pay you to take them in order to compete with Taycan depreciation.
@@caerphoto Harsh... but true!! 👍
I have an imported Toyota Estima from 2012 which, on the same wheelbase has: 8 seats, the rear bench is 60/40 and each side folds into the floor so you have room under the boot floor or the seats stow and you get a massive boot. The middle bench is 60/40 and can be slid or folded upright to the front seats, the windows are fully retractable into the doors and the space is better inside. This car has been around for 20 years and it's still more practical and better designed than this new Buzz. It's so disappointing that with new EV architecture, they still can't do a decent, practical family car. Why?
I own one. Brilliant thing
The price is just mental. Like back in the day for a relatively young person these vans were possible. Now not at all.
£50k vans aren’t that unusual. A big standard diesel van of a similar size starts at £30k. Once it’s accessorised then it’ll be 40.
Buying power and wages have not kept up with inflation at all
Id love to see a camper version come to the market , lovely looking vehicle 😊 and thanks for a refreshing review 😊
I’d definitely have one, and live with the range 😍👍🏻
Great review, love the idea of the Buzz, but range in real world is 30 to 40 % off where needs to be. In reality you would be so much better off with a Model Y: lower cost, with better range, charging network & Tesla software. I really tried to want a Buzz 😊.
Is it still classed as a light goods vehicle? I remember about 6ish months back a number of owners complaining on forums that they were being stung for toll roads, ferries and the eurotunnel (or what ever it's called now).
We love ours especially with the lease deal we got 😂
But the passenger windows still do not open.... Why is the LWB already on sale in America?
I still want one. Unfortunately ULEZ expansion made us bite the bullet and get a ULEZ compliant car when the Buzz wait time was too long.
Loving it, but we won't get the shorter version here in the US, and I think it should have round headlights like the original, just my opinion. Great review though !!!
Really liking these reviews based on the new/actual prices you can get them for rather than the RRP.
Fabulous vehicle… is that some pre-production model..? Because I noticed that one was still fitted with LHD wipers! a TH-camr testing a vehicle with the “clap hand” style of wipers was saying how inconvenient the passenger getting the priority sweep was as the messy rain stays momentarily in front of the RHD … driver… my Honda of course is RHD and observing in rain I understand what is meant looking at my passenger side….
Ohh n my Honda has switches to open sliding doors on dash and the remote and it’s a 2008 😊
The ID Buzz is one of the most brilliant and inspiring vehicles. The only problem is that Volkswagen don’t make a camper of this fabulous beast!! It looks a bit like a T1 or T2!!
They have to make it a commercial success first. Campers are very niche, but it will happen. The majority of existing campers conversions are based on vans that have had a commercial life first.
In 3 or 4 years time there’ll be plenty of campers
Lovely car. How far can it go with the new larger battery that will arrive later this year.
Over 300 I believe
I'd love to replace my current Vito camper van with one of these, but I still think 40k - 50k for a van is too steep 😅 Hoping the value keeps coming down in the used market 🤞🏻
A depreciation of £20000 over 3 years is a big commitment, I suspect itll be even more than that as dealers really don't want them back.
Nichola sprinkling her love buzz :D
When it was75000 quid ,the IDbuzz was the idea of an old Volkswagen van and nothing else. Volkswagen should have spun off a separate division called Adelwagen. Adel in German means........
It is hard to not like the Buzz but impossible to not like Nicola!
Can't wait for GTX version to hit the road with AWD, and then making overland build from it ❤❤😊😊
This woman shouldn’t be doing car reviews, but switch to comedy! Absolutely hilarious and it made me want one! It’s already my favorite car and has been before launch. And yes I agree, improve the range and it wouldn’t be a spreadsheet nightmare😝 I live in Oslo Norway, and I see several of these daily. Plenty of people on my street has one of these besides Tesla and other brands of electric cars. I just love me a Volkswagen van tbh as I grew up with them. Not the original that this one is founded on, but the Caravel.
I really like the BUZZ, and kinda wish that VW had brought it to this side of the pond sooner, as I might have opted for one. Now, however, I had heard that VW is thinking that they won't come out with a "camper" version because it would lower the range to intolerable levels. Bummer.
I'm a van fan... And yeah I want this one
Thanks for the enthusiasm Nicola. If you can only squeeze 190 of range then you should be driving a Tesla or BYD instead. If you need more range then you just need a bit more time…
I wonder when the ID. Buzz Cargo GTX comes
VW:
Buttons
Buttons!
BUTTONS!
45 grand for a second hand car/van is crazy money in the real world. Ive been looking at the citroen berlingo and i prefer everything except its looks and range is worse, but its still a good family mpv. And you can get them for 20grand on the second hand market. Not 50. Id rather just get an id3 for 20, i know its a lot smaller but its pretty much the same as this mechanically. This thing is like 10-20 grand overpriced.
If it had another 100 miles of range then it would be all but perfect.
The Buzz will become interesting to me once they finally release LWB 7 seat version. And add more buttons!
I have one, I love it. Wish I could afford to make it a camper.
They need a Buzz 2.0, proper V2L not off the 12v, camp mode/dog mode more range quicker recharge
It’s a brilliant design. I’d love one!
I think the car looks great and is designed for family and dogs etc. It is just a real shame that it does not have the range, which is why I could not see this car as option for me at the moment.
Statistically and technically speaking, maybe a disaster and a big mistake. But it buzzes around. And moves someone by its looks and heritage.
Heck, I also do love certain vehicles that are mistakes also. So everyone stays happy. Buzzing or not.😊
I have driven one, and as a ex T25 driver it attracts me, but please, vehicles with two pillars at the front generally have less visibility and the Buzz is one such, it was one of the things I specifically looked out for, as my present car has twin pillars and was described by testers as having good visibility, but in fact has pretty bad blind spots.
This is a very clever and versatile design, but nothing I would want to buy. I like something smaller and more agile where nobody, especially my wife, is going to be tempted to load it up with things like sacks of horse food I really do not want in my car.
What was seriously interesting about this piece is the rapid fall in the prices of new and especially used EVs at the moment. If I wanted a Buzz, then c.£400 a month seems a pretty good deal. For most of the time c.200 miles of range is fine. I can fill up little and often most nights on cheap off peak lec, or use our own renewables. I am lucky enough to be able to charge at work free when I can be bothered to go there rather than WFH. For longer range I either plan my journeys or hire another car for the purpose given that most of my mileage is not a huge long tour of our island. Besides I think big batteries are going to look a terrible financial investment before much longer.
the availability is how a market should mature, as early adopters have their cars etc then the likes of myself, lets say second generation start to look to replace our cars and because of the lag there is a over supply. Prices will fall and then as I have the MG4 the Chinese come in and legacy have a clear choice.
We have a yellow-white version, we love it, when you drive at 100km/h , comsumption over 1100km is 22.1 kW/h for 100km at an average speed of 93km/h, the range is as good as my previous Polestar DM LR, and this is so much nicer, it's a car that makes you feel happy. And a perfect car is boring, sorry.
Great review for this type of car. I've a number of hippy-like friends, and those who even know about nthis can't wait for it to show up here (in the USA.) It sounds like its got the spirit. However, I think it's got too much price. We'll see.
Thank you.
Do you know why the rear windows don’t open, which isn’t great when you have people in the back!
The EV 9 it's longer but the buzz is taller
Would make a great mini camper van to take out to those remote areas, if you could actually charge it in those remote areas. Oops
Stuff a couple of those foldaway mini wind turbines in the boot, might take a while to get a couple of kilowatts on board while you are enjoying the scenery or whatever 😂
I think I’m in love with her personality and voice. Never said that about a gal before lol
I'd be keen on the ID Buzz if it had a 400 mile normal range and 200-300 when towing
Would loved to have one to throw my surfboards and road bikes into except for that minor little glitch. Having to stop and charge and hope that there are enough chargers that work for a road trip. Not ready for primetime at least for me.
No rear passenger windows that open is a bit of deal breaker for those with kids and the inevitable...."I feel sick... can you open then windows?"
I love the buzz in every way except one. The back floor is nuts. Find a different place for cables!
❤❤❤ it !
This would be amazing with around 120kWh battery and 250kW+ charging.
If GM can cram over 200kWh into the hummer then VW could do better with this.
It’ll happen :)
I don't think fitting 200 kWh into a vehicle the size of a nuclear power station was much of a "cram".
@@caerphoto lol not untrue. But the buzz isn't small either, even the SWB is ~80% the length of the Silverado so VW could certainly have offered more than 80kWh.
It's a likeable vehicle but just not viable for road tripping in a useful time frame, which is have the purpose of this vehicle.
I love it, it just I can’t afford one. 😢
range means more battery, as battery density improves then is possible
it NEEDS to be a 7 seater. NOT the long base one. The standard one.
It's a great design. Just not "the real Bus" replacement. They should have done the larger size coming shared with Fort Transit.
This sells better as Sharan model successor.
That’s the mulivan/ T7 you’re talking about. Different vehicle.
18-month wait? That's not bad. We just waited 2 years for a VW Caddy Cargo 🤯 (and it's not even that good!)
If it had the 7 seats plus another 100miles of range this would have flown off the forecourts
The thing is a panda. Everybody loves it.. Its a head turner without doubt but it's an expensive toy given the range and cost... Would I want one.. Yup.. And that girl has got the hots for that car Baddddd
Why are advance payments so high even with dealer contributions
To make the headline figure a talking point.
Just lease one....I got 3 for my business at 350 month
And if you want a camper rather than a car, it’s the ideal vehicle. There are camper conversations made on it!! But Volkswagen themselves don’t do this particular vehicle.
Is it comfortable to sleep in??
They desperately need to increase the range on this thing. The seating as well. I was expecting to see the rear seats already.. Otherwise, it's an interesting novelty vehicle. Honestly, I just saw this for Nicola.. 🙂
Nicola, you're a hoot! 😁