Let me start off by saying that I called Fuel Moto the other day looking to see if they had a specific header in stock and had the great fortune of Jaime taking the call. Without knowing me from anywhere, he asked what I was applying those said headers and the man took me on a 45 minute lesson on what to get instead and pros and cons. The man knows his stuff and led me very comfortable placing an order for a full exhaust, cams and tuner. Professionalism and customer service is hard to come by, but Fuel Moto has both.
Received my PV4 from Fuel Moto yesterday. Flashed the bike (Stage 1 with headers) this morning with the map provided by FM. I took the bike out and it's such a noticeable improvement compared to the V&H FP3 map (auto tuned) I was running. With the FP3, I could never get smooth throttle/power when trying to get up to speed...even after calls and emails with V&H, messing with AFR, throttle progressivity, etc. I was missing what the FM map gave me and couldn't be happier. I also told FM that I'll be going to Stage 2 (Woods cam) in a couple of months and they sent me a Stage 2 map to my PV account as well. For the price I paid for the PV4 from FM, just having the maps from them was well worth the price. Once the PV4 gets auto tune, fuel and temp readings to cell phone, etc. it'll all be extra because I'm good with just the maps.
Great run down on Power vision .. Fuel Motos customer service is the most amazing. Lucas helped my with a PC5 base map for my twin cam build and was so helpful he was always willing to help with questions I had . I can't thank you guys enough not enough businesses these days have these fundamentals. Cheers. Aaron.
I just flashed my new Harley Low Rider with a Fuel Moto tune using a PV3. The PV3 is easy to use. That tune from Fuel Moto is spot on. I accidentally started off in second gear to see how this new tune would perform. Holy Jesus. The low end tuning is now set up correctly.
Does the PV4 have, or will have auto tune? Just looking for something for a Stage 1 for now. 2015 RGS, slip-ons, no baffles. Can you use your phone and adjust the parameters if need be while out on the bike? Thanks,
I have pv3, survived multiple upgrades and absolutely love it. It should be standard equipment. Best way to put it is something like this, before ov3 i noticed those cool, dry days the engine ran great and felt fantastic. Well, now every day regardless of temperature or humidity, the 14 ultra limited hauls ass. Best purchase besides the bike i ever made.. kudos to powervision!
I have a 22 fat bob 114 FXFBS stock 3K miles with slip ons my daily commuter...goal is stage 1 maybe add a cam, with 2-1 road rage or similar which PV is best and do you ship to Los Angeles?
Great video guys! Just wondering if you guys have encountered compatibility issues with HD's Sportster S (2021-2022) models? If so which PV works best with the bike?
If I change my injectors on my 128 from 5.5 to 6.1 can I make that adjustment on my dynojet myself in the programming or does it require a full 700.00 dyno run again
We are into winter 2022, do the 3 and 4 models have the auto tuning feature yet? I'm looking for a product that will work well on my 2020 m8 107, stage 1 and then stage 2.
If I already have a pv4 can I buy a tune from you? Currently have a 2023 Road Glide Special with heavy breather and full 2 into 1 Shorty Exhaust. Dynojet only has one tune available and honest I don't really feel any difference after installing that tune.
Have you guys had any issues in using the original model on a 22 touring model. I got one in the shop that the customer wants to make sure we can tune after some significant motor upgrades. I was able to generate a license for the bike, which is a totally different number than usual designation. Website only shows maps for a 21 model CVO.
I have the PV3 with the target tune set up ... I'm assuming those are already compatible for 2021 FLTRXS with an RDRS tune you all have supplied? Edit: I have PV2-B NOT PV3... my fault ... nothing to see here folks .... carry on 😁
had slip ons and a big sucker / tuned with an original fuel pack. Got the PV4 and fuel moto pushed me a tune and most definitely more throttle response and noticible pep . Decel pop did appear though but like the way the bike runs better
The stock unit comes with 3 tunes ( from powervision )stock , slip ons , full exhaust. When I purchased the pv4 from fm they gave a separate tune - slip ons currently - and fm is better but decel pop is there still but not terrible. Biggest concern though is that I want to upgrade to full exhaust and cam but seems that this device is not really getting updates ( was hoping on auto tune w wide band sensor feature)
Now I love you guys and only do business with your company but I am just not understanding the pv4. You have criticized the fp3 for years for being cell phone based and not a direct connect but when Dynojet comes on board with that tech, it's the best thing since sliced bread? Serious question, what is the main difference between fp3 and pv4 other than vnh can't create tunes past stage 1 to save their soul?
We did not criticize the FP3 for being smart phone based for tune delivery, however what we consider a major drawback with the FP3 is its lack of windows based software for tuning and map sharing, everything is proprietary via V&H's mobile app. Dynojet PV4 is very different as it uses very robust windows PC software for tuning, the mobile device is only used for tune delivery.
So since I have a 2013 FLTRX I will need the original Dynojet for 700 bucks (which a few months ago was only $450) instead of like a PV3, which is less expensive?
They do. All the information is up on their website here : www.fuelmotousa.com/i-23898985-fuel-moto-map-support-buy-in.html#!year%3D2016%7C%7Cmodel%3DDYNA%20LOW%20RIDER%20S%20FXDLS
My PV 4 is junk… never loaded the tune after multiple attempts and they show multiple tunes but you only get one tune that some jack leg loaded at Fuel Moto. Fuel Moto does not warranty these tuners so I’m praying Dynojet refunds me… I’ll be going with the Thundermax Auto tuner. Buyer beware of the PV4
The best advice I can give is call fuel moto before buying and installing anything like these. Their maps are very good. Tech help is the best ive experienced in my 51 years. And no i dont know any of them 😂.well talk to them
@@MrPowerpen They gave me a chart of the differences but it showed the PV3 had autotune basic, which I have heard thru differing correspondance that it does not
Let me start off by saying that I called Fuel Moto the other day looking to see if they had a specific header in stock and had the great fortune of Jaime taking the call. Without knowing me from anywhere, he asked what I was applying those said headers and the man took me on a 45 minute lesson on what to get instead and pros and cons. The man knows his stuff and led me very comfortable placing an order for a full exhaust, cams and tuner. Professionalism and customer service is hard to come by, but Fuel Moto has both.
Received my PV4 from Fuel Moto yesterday. Flashed the bike (Stage 1 with headers) this morning with the map provided by FM. I took the bike out and it's such a noticeable improvement compared to the V&H FP3 map (auto tuned) I was running. With the FP3, I could never get smooth throttle/power when trying to get up to speed...even after calls and emails with V&H, messing with AFR, throttle progressivity, etc. I was missing what the FM map gave me and couldn't be happier. I also told FM that I'll be going to Stage 2 (Woods cam) in a couple of months and they sent me a Stage 2 map to my PV account as well. For the price I paid for the PV4 from FM, just having the maps from them was well worth the price. Once the PV4 gets auto tune, fuel and temp readings to cell phone, etc. it'll all be extra because I'm good with just the maps.
I just ordered the PV4 from your site for my 2023 Harley.
Will the pv4 be getting any wide band sensor integration for auto tune ever or cam support?
Great run down on Power vision .. Fuel Motos customer service is the most amazing. Lucas helped my with a PC5 base map for my twin cam build and was so helpful he was always willing to help with questions I had . I can't thank you guys enough not enough businesses these days have these fundamentals. Cheers. Aaron.
I just flashed my new Harley Low Rider with a Fuel Moto tune using a PV3. The PV3 is easy to use. That tune from Fuel Moto is spot on. I accidentally started off in second gear to see how this new tune would perform. Holy Jesus. The low end tuning is now set up correctly.
Does the PV4 have, or will have auto tune?
Just looking for something for a Stage 1 for now.
2015 RGS, slip-ons, no baffles.
Can you use your phone and adjust the parameters if need be while out on the bike?
Thanks,
What about the wide band O2 sensors
Can we see and PV4 vs. FP4 head to head? Thanks!
1 year later and I still can't get a clear comparison
Does the target tune also tune the ignition timing?
I have pv3, survived multiple upgrades and absolutely love it. It should be standard equipment. Best way to put it is something like this, before ov3 i noticed those cool, dry days the engine ran great and felt fantastic. Well, now every day regardless of temperature or humidity, the 14 ultra limited hauls ass. Best purchase besides the bike i ever made.. kudos to powervision!
I have a 22 fat bob 114 FXFBS stock 3K miles with slip ons my daily commuter...goal is stage 1 maybe add a cam, with 2-1 road rage or similar which PV is best and do you ship to Los Angeles?
Great video guys! Just wondering if you guys have encountered compatibility issues with HD's Sportster S (2021-2022) models? If so which PV works best with the bike?
Will the auto tune connect to the PV4?
Just ordered my Pv4 from FuelMoto last night! Can't wait to review this and let the bike come to life
Are they going to add the option to turn on the oil cooler fan and or the under seat fan on the 17 and later touring models??
You can currently enable the fan on 21-later models. This is expected to be added to 20-earlier bikes soon
Can the PV4 tune with an upgraded cam in the bike
i have a falcon 2023 400cc im looking for a way to re map my ecu.. can you help me
Does the PV3 allow for throttle progressivity adjustment and speed limiter removal?
Can I use the PV4 21-22 touring on 2023?
Would like to see throttle progressivity and speedo calibration on PV4
Mine comes in Thursday can’t wait!!!
How is it?
If I change my injectors on my 128 from 5.5 to 6.1 can I make that adjustment on my dynojet myself in the programming or does it require a full 700.00 dyno run again
FM's site is showing that the PV3-15-02 has the auto tune feature but DynoJet is saying that it doesn't. Did it get disabled already?
Hey Fuel Moto. It’s a year later, does the PV3 have auto tune capability yet? How much longer do you think DJ will support the original Power Vision?
For the Harley Davidson will the Powervision have the capability to by pass the “turn off” the speed governer?
We are into winter 2022, do the 3 and 4 models have the auto tuning feature yet? I'm looking for a product that will work well on my 2020 m8 107, stage 1 and then stage 2.
They do not. Don't even have idle adjustment. Supper disappointed
If I already have a pv4 can I buy a tune from you? Currently have a 2023 Road Glide Special with heavy breather and full 2 into 1 Shorty Exhaust. Dynojet only has one tune available and honest I don't really feel any difference after installing that tune.
So after I plug in a download the tune to the bike on my pv4. Do I need to keep it plugged in? Or can I remove it?
J&P has a video on this. It can be left on or removed. Your choice.
Hi!!, PV4 currently supports autotune???
Can these tuners work with a bike that has RDRS?
Unbelievable that they have to make this so freaking complicated and confusing to figure out which one to get.
That’s literally the hardest part hahaha I just went with the og power vision . Has every capability you can think of
Have you guys had any issues in using the original model on a 22 touring model. I got one in the shop that the customer wants to make sure we can tune after some significant motor upgrades. I was able to generate a license for the bike, which is a totally different number than usual designation. Website only shows maps for a 21 model CVO.
Will a power vision work on tablet/ surface 4 pro with windows 10 instead of a pc
If I get a new bike, will i be able to use the PV3 to my new bike by buying another license?
I have the PV3 with the target tune set up ... I'm assuming those are already compatible for 2021 FLTRXS with an RDRS tune you all have supplied?
Edit: I have PV2-B NOT PV3... my fault ... nothing to see here folks .... carry on 😁
Are tunes available through fuel moto?
www.fuelmotousa.com/i-23898985-fuel-moto-map-tune-support-buy-in.html
Just curious is the PV3 or PC4 now available to be used on a 2011
@fuelmoto do y'all have a plan to convert all of the PCV tunes to PV6? Only two canned tunes for my bike for PC6 but PCV has like 40.
had slip ons and a big sucker / tuned with an original fuel pack. Got the PV4 and fuel moto pushed me a tune and most definitely more throttle response and noticible pep . Decel pop did appear though but like the way the bike runs better
Any update on the decel pop? Get that dialed in yet?
The stock unit comes with 3 tunes ( from powervision )stock , slip ons , full exhaust. When I purchased the pv4 from fm they gave a separate tune - slip ons currently - and fm is better but decel pop is there still but not terrible. Biggest concern though is that I want to upgrade to full exhaust and cam but seems that this device is not really getting updates ( was hoping on auto tune w wide band sensor feature)
@@toobView13 I actually figured out how to use power core software on my laptop to adjust the maps to correct the decel pop, much better
@@SEEKANDDESTROY717 , had not considered if any desktop apps are available. Will check it out, thanks
@@SEEKANDDESTROY717 is it possible to connect to the device and retrieve / add files? ( is any adapter needed like an ftdi )
Now I love you guys and only do business with your company but I am just not understanding the pv4. You have criticized the fp3 for years for being cell phone based and not a direct connect but when Dynojet comes on board with that tech, it's the best thing since sliced bread? Serious question, what is the main difference between fp3 and pv4 other than vnh can't create tunes past stage 1 to save their soul?
We did not criticize the FP3 for being smart phone based for tune delivery, however what we consider a major drawback with the FP3 is its lack of windows based software for tuning and map sharing, everything is proprietary via V&H's mobile app. Dynojet PV4 is very different as it uses very robust windows PC software for tuning, the mobile device is only used for tune delivery.
So since I have a 2013 FLTRX I will need the original Dynojet for 700 bucks (which a few months ago was only $450) instead of like a PV3, which is less expensive?
Great informative video. I can now make an informed decision.Thanks.👍💀
What do you recommend for a lean running 2019 Harley Roadster with high flow air filter and TBR 2n1 exhaust? Or, shall I have it DYNO TUNED?
So the PV4 will have more features than it does right now? Nice.
Is the PV-3B a hybrid?
Thank you for sharing!👍👍
Have you noticed any issues with the PV4 not working when attaching to a 2021 Fatbob 114 with the new red connector?
My '21 Fat Bob works great with the PV4 and fuel moto map. There's a different part number for newer bikes with red connector.
My powervision 4 is not flashing. It says it’s unable to download tune.
Will the new products be compatible with wide band O2?
As per their website, the PV3 and PV4 are not compatible with target tune yet.
there will be wideband O2 integration for PV3/PV4 soon
@@FuelMotoUSAWI any further updates re auto tune for the pv4
@@jamaicanjjason still not available on pv4
I made the mistake of NOT buying my PV4 from you. Do you sell your custom tunes? Because the defaults are garbage.
They do.
All the information is up on their website here : www.fuelmotousa.com/i-23898985-fuel-moto-map-support-buy-in.html#!year%3D2016%7C%7Cmodel%3DDYNA%20LOW%20RIDER%20S%20FXDLS
@@benl2681 Awesome! Ty!
How do I get stage 3 for the power vision 4?
www.fuelmotousa.com/i-23898985-fuel-moto-map-tune-support-buy-in.html
Fuel Moto is awesome!!!!!!
Anyone have any experience with the Pv3? Is auto tune accessible? Is it worth vs spending the extra few bucks for original model?
Did you figure this out yet? Having the same dilemma.
@@razrides yeah it’s worth buying the pv3 they released auto tuned and now has similar functions to original model
@@wawafireman Thank you!
My PV 4 is junk… never loaded the tune after multiple attempts and they show multiple tunes but you only get one tune that some jack leg loaded at Fuel Moto. Fuel Moto does not warranty these tuners so I’m praying Dynojet refunds me… I’ll be going with the Thundermax Auto tuner. Buyer beware of the PV4
Do you recommend leaving the pv4 connected at all times?
The PV4 can stay plugged in at all times without issue, or if you prefer put in you saddlebag or tool box for safe keeping
Throttle response is just accelerator pump functionality. It has nothing to do with the overall tuning.
I think it's called Target tune
The best advice I can give is call fuel moto before buying and installing anything like these. Their maps are very good. Tech help is the best ive experienced in my 51 years. And no i dont know any of them 😂.well talk to them
PV4 Didn't work with 2022 heritage Classic
Why is the kid sitting beside you? 😂
Please get yourself organized before your next video, all of this info could have been shared in 10min.
So the original is really still the best
I wish you would spend less time shilling the product and more time actually telling difference
tell me about it. 25 minutes and I have no idea which one is the right one to buy
@@ryanmitchell4266 I messaged dyno jet and they gave me a pdf of the differences
@@MrPowerpen They gave me a chart of the differences but it showed the PV3 had autotune basic, which I have heard thru differing correspondance that it does not