This incredible battery tech will END America's dependence on China
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- This incredible battery tech will END America's dependence on China
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"Hmmmmm" I'll say it again "Hmmmmm" Heard it all before hundreds of times.
Thank goodness! I thought I'd missed the "game changing battery technology breakthrough" for the month of August.
It’s actually extremely exciting th constant ever changing improvements made on batteries
All inspired by the king of technology to pay omage to th MASTER OF ALL MASTERS N.Tesla
lol
I’m taking a drink every time Sam says ‘game changer’, ‘revolutionary’ or ‘mental’ so far I can’t walk to the bathroom.
hes very gullible
This is the 24th 'game-changing' battery technology in just the last week. If we were to go back a few years, it becomes impossible to comprehend.....until you realize capitalization is the lifeblood of every new and old company.
Hey Boofhead, I live in Alice, no traffic, no city snog, nice time of the year to be here, blessings
Two weeks, five game-changers.
😂
Sam is never going to own a EV. Pretty sure he keeps looking at new technology that is “coming soon” and will never jump onboard. Perhaps change the channel name to “Considering Electric Viking”
Show how easy development really is. The bill past about a month ago and look what they created. God Bless America!
I've heard about probably a dozen amazing breakthrough batteries over the last couple years. If they're so good, where the hell are they?
That’s exactly it, this one is in production.
"Game changing battery" tech is only good for TH-camrs and start-up to prop up their value
@@RM-rh3mz Oh really? He didn't even give the name of the company, or any details about the battery.
Magnis Energy Technologies (MNS) is one of the most undervalued company's on the ASX, which will soon change. I have done extensive, extensive due diligence on them, and the battery chemistry and game changing qualities Sam referred to are absolutely legitimate. US grants/loans to help scale up capacity are also immanent. Great work Sam - welcome as a shareholder when you do buy in.
What you say may very well be true but I can promise you nothing biden did helps them at all.
Very interesting, however I am still more interested in the sodium batteries, as they are made of abundant materials
Magnis also 100% owns a graphite mine in Tanzania. The graphite is very high quality, and doesn't even need harsh chemical treatment. They can purify several form using floatation instead of high energy processes.
Graphite is not mined, it is produced
@@tobyli52 No. Graphite is mined, and then purified. I have idea why you said what you said. *Graphene (as opposed to graphITE) is a also a carbon material which can be produced from methane and other hydrocarbons.
Anthracite coal is graphite. UK once has a huge resource in South Wales but it was worked out like any other coal mine.
@@davidelliott5843 I don't think that is true. Coal has tar in it. Graphite is pure carbon.
@@tobyli52 To clarify, there is natural graphite that is mined, but there is also synthetic graphite.
Yup. Magnis will grow faster than what they have planned.
Thanks Sam. Sounds good. But many battery startups claim advantages, promise great things, and then fade away. Some of those companies can best be described as scammers. Others are mistaken in their beliefs and claims. Call me a cynic, if you like, but I'm used to seeing people betting the bank on ideas which turn out to be pipe dreams, so I'll wait to see them on the market, and living up to their claims, before buying any.
Pioneers get slaughtered, settlers thrive
Son of a gun ... This Endicott plant is only about 20 minutes down the road from me!
get some footage and post to $mns on twitter... :)
Sam - been with you a while now, what a legend you are mate…
C4V designs the LiSER battery and OEM partners like Magnis manufacture it in their own factories. Magnis has a 9.65% shareholding in C4V.
Magnis is not an OEM, it has indeed a 10% shareholding in C4V but IM3NY is a joint venture between C4V(30%) and MNS (60%) to manufacture those battery cells in the US and has its own company and leadership structure (CEO is ex Tesla Engineer)
Great news, few thing need to look forward.
1.Scale up for commercial used.
2.Cost per kw?
3. Safety test.
These are some of the safest batteries - chemistry wise. That’s the point of them.
Commercial scale up is happening now. Their plant just opened.
Amazing video Sam, thanks for covering the topic. Between the battery tech, the extra fast charging, the local supply chain, the tax credits and the imminent funding to scale up to 38 Gwh this company really has the potential to disrupt NMC/NCA chemistries and shifting the paradigm from range to battery life & charging time as key selection criteria. Love your work mate, keep it up!
They are not close to having imminent funding to scale to 38 Gwh. But you got the rest right.
Makes me proud to be American
Chairman. Shailesh Upreti is an alumnus of the Indian Institute of Technology (IIT) at Delhi, India and former group member of Professor Stan Whittingham, Nobel Laureate and the inventor of Li-ion battery.
Did I miss something called energy density? How much energy density do these batteries have? It is great they last forever but energy density and how fast they charge are important. I didn't hear the latter mentioned either.
Liser density is 190 at pack level. Bmlmp itself is 228 at cell level.
The 2600 cycles with 3% perdition was for a 100% charge/discharge in 20 minutes. They will continue the testing with 15/10/6 minutes, they already proved they could go this low in the past
@@4davelo BRO. TELL ME WHAT IS THE NAME OF THE COMPANY. PLEASE
@@k.prasannavenkateshkasturi2158 magnis - mns/asx
@@k.prasannavenkateshkasturi2158 Company name is LiSER. Doesn't use nickel or cobalt but still uses lithium so not sure about it being a game changer.
@@k.prasannavenkateshkasturi2158 Magnis Energy (MNS.ASX) as mentioned by MT, LISER is the name of their new battery blade system based on their cell chemistry
Wow this truely is a game changer let’s hope it ramps quickly and all works out
Every week a game-changing battery is released.
I should be able to power an ev from my mobile phone by now and get 17000 miles.
Tesla should be buying this company right now, and scale this chemistry in 4680 cells.
If it's real, maybe they are or maybe licensing the tech from them.
Tesla is already working on their own Lithium-Manganese chemistry for the 4680 so I don't see where this chemistry is anything new.
Im3ny has 4680 cell production scheduled. They are using their cell construction first in the plant and offering more as they continue to build out their facility(s)
I hope that this is for real. Thanks Sam.
Sam, you are the hardest working man on the platform. Thank you for this excellent reporting, because cycle life was the one thing keeping me from buying an EV. I didn't want to get stuck buying a $10,000 battery pack every five years. Great news! all good wishes.
Tesla batteries last a long time. Not sure how much driving you do but there are people who've driven their Tesla's over 300 thousand miles on the same battery.
@@trizzybones there’s actually several people over half a million miles on one battery pack. One guy has over 1million miles on his Model S, 350k on his first battery pack, and he’s still kicking on his free replacement pack after 660k miles. I imagine with LFP and it’s derivatives, we’ll start seeing cars with multiple millions of miles under a single pack.
Dept of Energy in US mandate EV batteries have 8 year 100,000 mile warranty. In California, it's 10 year 150,000 miles. So you would think if EV batteries were bad they would avoid selling in California or would be the last place but no, it's the first place new EV's are sold.
@@jakekarll8294 I doubt it. 1 million miles. That comes out to about 300 miles a day every day for 10 years.
@@Sonoma_Coast He shares images of his miles traveled, he's done a lot of road trips around Europe. He's replaced the battery a couple times, but it was under warranty.
It’s one thing to make something in a lab, it’s another to mass produce it and sell it at a competitive price. If the batteries they make really last longer than the cars they will be put in, then we really need to come up with standards on these battery packs, so that we can swap them into other makes and models of cars, instead of them going to waste.
You make a valid point about standardization, but one also has to ask this: why should the car wear out before the battery pack does? An electric motor/drivetrain can easily be designed to last for those 2 million kilometers. As this EV market shakes out, I fully expect to see quick lube joints and small-parts mechanics to be largely replaced by local auto-upholsterers and vinyl wrappers (and so on).
I agree 👍. Also, the battery packs, should be eco-friendly and repairable down to the cell level, and ...and ...
Transferable to other cars without voiding Intellectual Property rights and warranties.
@usths
Magnis has ties to recycler ABML (American Battery Technology). The recycling process is already underway.
@@johncahill3644 The cost to engineer a 2 million mile chassis would be extreme. Plastic parts tend to degrade and styles change . It would be nice to own a tank mobile that could last 2 million miles! Some Class 8 trucks have 2 million miles. What to do with a car that won't die would be a good problem to have
So that’s why Outback Steakhouse calls that dish “Alice Springs Chicken”.
You are the best of the best. Thanks for spreading good news and giving hope to us all. Good luck to your son too.
This is too good to be true. Why would you have such a fortune / commercial venture and treating it like a MILITARY SECRET. This makes no sense at all
This is interesting. Help me understand this supply chain concern? Where do we find enough charging electricity to charge all the proposed electric vehicles?
The tide has turned. You're always on it! Thanks Sam!
If this info about Croatia is true, it explains A LOT about RImac, and why VW gave them Bugatti.
Jesus. That is so on point.
EV resale values will stay high with long life batteries. The EV's could last for many decade's.
Don't tell the OEMs that. They'll kill it before it gets a chance to take off.
*EVs
*decades
i hope you are correct! Musk always said(Everybody has a great battery in the lab but can you mass produce it?
If this battery technology turns out to do all they have claimed, it will indeed be a game-changer. But, forgive me if I suffer from "game-changer" fatigue. I would appreciate it if you could drill down a bit more and let us know if this is for real. Perhaps you can give us real-world examples of where this battery is currently being used. Are there any EV companies buying these batteries or have them on order? What about an interview with their CEO and a tour of the factory? Are there any articles in the research literature about this battery type and its strengths and weaknesses? There are too many unanswered questions to conclude that these batteries are game-changers. But I will stay tuned.
On another note, I agree with your take on the importance of President Biden pushing domestic development and production of batteries and associated high technology. While I have the highest respect for China's ability to produce EVs and batteries, of late, they have been saber-rattling a bit too much for comfort. The West needs to develop its own sources of domestic production. Our over-reliance on China is a national security concern. Increasing our competitive position will help balance the world economy so that other nations will have alternative sources of supply. This will help consumers speed the transition from ICE vehicles to EVs in the long term.
+1
It has been independantly verified.
Dr Shailesh Upreti is a genius and was tutored by Nobel Prize Winner - Professor Stanley Whittingham. Just remember the New York Gigafactory is already opened as of last month and is starting commercial automation. This company is the only Gigafactory play in production on the ASX.
NOT TALKING ABOUT IT - THEY ARE DOING IT!!!!
The issue with Chinese dominance is because of USA capitalism not despite it. USA has handed over it's technology at the altar of corporate greed and China has played it by pegging the yuan to the USD. The electronic device we are all using here and now is proof alone.
Ive this before about over reliance on China i agree wholeheartedly with this
They don’t have EV ready batteries, yet. Say they are getting close.
Thank you for the continuous stream of precious information.
Thanks Sam. An interesting development that you will no doubt follow up on with more developments as they occur.!
Wow, that’s amazing. Keep us up to date mate !
Does it burn/explode uncontrollably, or very fragile, or won't work below freezing temps???
think MNESF is starting with 55Ah and 7Ah batteries, which is really smart - - golf carts and gate openers - - places where they can prove out the tech.
Exciting news! This is why your channel is so great. Keep on bringing great news.
I pray every day for a good, long lasting, battery for my EVs, robots, and equipment!
I also have wished for Fusion energy for us for over 20 years!
My cousin is Jamie Hales ..1st Australian BMX champion and is in Australia BMX Hall of fame. Loving your video's.
Desert, rocks, and a few trees......sounds inviting lol. Keep up the great work, hope your boys did well.
Why would these batteries be tested in Croatia when the plant is in NY? Wouldn’t it make sense to test these batteries in the USA? And where has the company verified that their batteries for EVs will last 1.2 million miles? I haven’t seen that anywhere.
Auto manufacturers never tell buyer what batteries are in their EV and I don't think they even know...so how are we supposed to know if this game changing batteries are even in the EVs we're buying
Great info/video! Good luck to your boys Sam!
Thanks, Sam. Will live - will see! I'd bet on the Aussie GMG startup from Brisbane. You've made a program on them. Graphene-aluminium battery. To me - they are the most promising. And they are building a new factory in Gladstone too! Time will tell. I hope, they'll make it right!
It’s nice to see all this focus on advancing battery technology. In the end what ever advances they make will impact a lot of things going forward. So the time isn’t waisted.
Hey friend, congratulations to your boy! I hope he does well.
Is the symbol?....MNSEF
Great News, but where will the Electrical Power come from & solve our problem here in CA where they are Warning of Brown Outs & are asking us to give our appliances the day off?
I think that's not handy in a car, but it will be nice on the bottom of a flatbuilding.
It seems like they can be used for a 100 years anyway.
Sounds interesting. Will be more interesting when you know what "affordable" means. The biggie (apart from the milage) is definately the ability to fast charge all the time. That is the required convenience that that no one wants to mention because it halves the life of most EV batteries...
5th like
6th
convenience is charging at home for cheap electrical rates.
*mileage
*definitely
Smart true dat
These breakthroughs have not happened in the last few weeks. These innovations are a result of years of research and development.
And most won't ever be commercialized others will take many yrs.
Please keep us updated for future developments
First time of my challenge till Sam will notice: you're an awesome TH-camr and an amazing inspiration.
Simp For Sam everyday!
@@MaxDankOG Come on let's start this wonderful trend till he will find out how big his simps army is!
Will investigate the Aussie connection too Sam. Hope your son does well in the bmx comp! Also hope you get to look around Alice Springs and nearby. Amazing place.
Why is there a Viking living in the desert? LOL
This channel should be promoting Fusion energy, given the number of ‘breakthroughs’ and ‘game changers’ that are unveiled. Would they, for example work in typically temperate-country winter temperatures?
A few years ago our friend worked at the Uluru-Kata Tjuta National Park. Small world. Plus big news for the USA.
I'll believe when I see it.. all he says is that its REALLY GREAT. no detail, no charging rates, no times no KW per Kilo,.. talk talk talk..
Is the stock listed on the NYSE? What’s the symbol?
mnsef otc ticker {magnis energy technologies limited ] I believe !
@@Billy-wk3vv OTC:MNSEF or ASX:MNS
Magnesium phosphate is lighter than lithium phosphate. I have magnesium cells and they put out more volts then lithium cells same size. Been waiting for this technology to be released for 12 years.
FYI: Magnis owns 10% of C4V
I will believe it when I see it.
I just watched your video great information the plant is running the battery should be great for the American economy if Tesla will buy this wow this should be crazy thanks for the information
Good luck for your son!
Nobody know which battery tech is going to win, heck just yesterday an article came out from China saying they have a battery that charges in 3min and lasts 20yrs.
Excellent for HEV's with more battery life challenges, like stronger regen brakes, high cycles/km which results in high cycles and shortened life.
Loved the titles!!! Brilliant when brief. 👍👍👍
I like these heads-ups on battery technology, but they run a little close to clickbait. I used to plan technology acquiaitions for a Fortune 100 company, and I watched new tech closely. But, I had a rule of thumb when talking to business managers -- if it wasn't in production I didn't mention it. If it was in advance stages of development -- Aptera -- I might talk about it with the more tech-savvy execs, but I always made clear that the odds of actually arriving in the near future were slim. That's a rule I suggest for you. Less "gee whiz."
I think the charging infrastructure will be the bottleneck for electric vehicles.
Of course, if the batteries are REAL good, we can use batteries to charge our batteries... So there will be a workaround of giant batteries sitting where gas stations used to be. Of course, I'm not channeling that.
@@danforesman2627 Sort of a chicken and egg idea. Which came first, the charged battery or the charging battery?
Great review! Thanks 😊
IBM used to have a plant in Endicott NY. So there was a good technical workforce looking for something to do.
I hope in 8-10 years when I’m looking into replace my MYP battery something like this is an option
The only game changer I want is to buy byd dolphin in my hometown's dealership
Sam, you’re the hardest working man on YT. You need some time off. Good luck to your son and enjoy.
“Hardest working man on YT”?
There is no way that statement is true.
@@ophello yes, my statement earlier is hyperbole, please don’t take it literally
Lets hope that proves to be true; what I've been seeing; is lots of companies are trying to get around the law by brining in partly completed cells to the USA and then fixing them up a lot like Chinese parts put into a car assembled in the USA and then qualify for the discount. I sort of hate these companies that cheat the system.
More Chinese junk. I will NEVER EVER own a glorified golf cart electric vehicle, but substandard low quality Chinese made garbage has been a problem for me and my business.
The older generation of car companies have had to do a lot of sketchy stuff to remain competitive. The have to deal with politicians, media, share holders, Unions, parts suppliers who themselves all have these same problems, etc. Many of these groups have directly opposing needs. Keeping them all happy is nearly impossible without bending the rules, and loopholes have been put into those rules specifically so they can use them. Tesla is uniquely efficient. This would not be possible if they were unionized, had to deal with dealerships, had to deal with suppliers that all have their own special interests, so yea I agree that it sucks but that crappy system was manipulated and twisted over decades by all those various interests.
@@EdgewiseSJ Great if all you want is an apology.
@@lengould9262 Nah, I just wanted to shed some light. I work in manufacturing and a decade ago, I had the same point of view you do now. Over time, I came to realize why certain things are the way they are. People get in the way of efficiency all the time for all different types of reasons. It's stupid and annoying, but it's just reality. ICE car companies have long been the target of environmental groups who are often supported by the media in there attacks. Compromises get made. Unions have a lot of political weight, so often get their way as well. Of course the share holders demand profits, so the company will fail if that isn't delivered. None of these groups are all that worried about the long term health of the companies they are hindering. Even the share holders often just look at short term profits. The people running the company are generally very high payed CEOs who may or may not be worth their expense. Squeezing something through a loophole left in a law is just enough for them to survive in a market that is extremely competitive where they've been losing market share since the 70's. Close those loopholes and they'll be owned by Chinese companies in under 5 years who don't have any of those same problems to deal with.
Makes Wind, Solar and Battery systems sound more viable.
Nothing does that. Both those 'solutions' are weather dependent. You're used to power being CONSTANT.
The unreliables are anything but reliable or consistent. We need to spend our money on nukes, not unicorn fart pinwheels and smoke and mirror solar.
Also look at ZINC8 for grid & industrial storage. It's not for use in EV's, but is awesome for larger applications.
@@andrewkaiser7203 Why?
Storage solutions can only charge and discharge at a certain rate. Usually, it's not fast enough either way to be viable OR useful. Even as a stopgap between one power source and another, it can't provide enough power to keep the grid up.
This is being proven daily in Australia, where citizens are seeing more power fluctuations (brown puts and blips) and damage to their electronics and appliances.
Disagree, cost of Li-ion is about 5x as expensive as pumped hydro.
Batteries have a long way to go to be a serious contributor to grid storage.
Would love to see those sort of improvements, but this isn't it.
@@russelldesilva1560 There's also cryo storage, which I had mentioned tangentially but apparently is being looked into.
Using power to compress and condense nitrogen in a semi closed loop for later use in various expansion generator designs, seems like a far less expensive and far less volatile means of storing energy.
Hey , look up diamond nano batteries ....now thats a game changer .....out of Bristol England
I love the Alice, especially the annual boat race!
I apologize if this has been said before but , "CATL is a Chinese battery company!" WTH?
Good coverage
Wish it the best of luck
He who controls the lithium, controls the world.
MNS has C4V patented tech (C4V is an american company who created this battery - MNS has a 10% stake), non-China supply chain, no nickel nor cobalt (makes it cheaper), its own graphite mine (30% of a battery as per weight), energy comes from hydroelectric power (Niagara falls), battery charges faster and has lower degradation, higher voltage, company has Sen Schumer support... It tickes all the boxes! They just need the government loans in order to scalate faster.
MNS has also 60% of im3ny, C4V's USA manufacturing arm, with sole use of c4v's IP in the USA
Alice Springs - home to a US military listening post.
Go mini electric Viking go…!
So this company you speak of to invest in is Magnis?
Ooh look. A game changer.
Endicott NY is not a small village. IBM Defense systems has been there for 50? years. This is part of one continuous light urban sprawl often called the Triple Cities, which include the county seat (Binghamton) and a major campus of the state university system with an engineering school.
Not quite the same as a small village in the Cotswalds.(g)
188 watt-hour per kg (Wh/Kg) density is too low for mobility use, 4680 GEN3 will be close to 300 watt-hour per kg (Wh/Kg)
228 Wh/kg at cell level, 190 Wh/kg at the pack level. no active cooling needed hence pack is better than other packs
Thanks Sam. This is very good news, I am sure if they are good Elon will jump at adding them. Also Chevy and Ford need this to get the credits.
If you "slow charge" them, will they degrade less? I would usually be able to charge my car overnight in my garage.
Some people can't let go of their internal comb. engines but then comes a battery that I can quick charge that will go the same distance as a gas powered car. Some people will never get rid of their gas powered cars. Me, I'm going with the future instead.
MNS to rally 10x
Astonishing battery!!
UNLOADING the existing grid is important.
40% of grid load is the 300million homes.
With every EV and rooftop solar sold the grid is effectively UNLOADED,
the electrical energy IS AT THE ENDS of the grid for all practical purposes.
When 50% homes of has an EV and a little rooftop solar system the grid will only need to supply 80% of todays electrical power,
when 100% of home with an EV and rooftop solar, the grid will only need to supply 60%
and if the homes feed in say 40% to the grid then the
grid power, from centralised plants, would be only 20%, this is tiny, small.
NOTHING but red ink for the power companies.