I'm sure US sellers are shipping the updated version because batch 1 sold out pretty fast. You do want to check just in case though, it would suck to buy the old board at this point! Also check out the Pavo 20, it came out after I did this video and it looks like a nice option too bit.ly/PPico20
The best advice seems to be about he camera o-ring dampeners, I bought and added transparent silicone ones. Zero jello, even in goggles. Thanks! (Pavo Pico batch2)
That great to hear that it worked out for you! In my case I didn't cinch down those screws enough the first time, and got bad results initially, then I cinched it down better so it wasn't moving around so much and it worked out well.
It does seem like the ESC in the first AIO wasn't beefy enough, I've also heard of people having brownouts when their 2s lipos get low. The good news is that the new AIO board (bit.ly/3Pt2e9Z) isn't that expensive and is an easy upgrade, just plugs, no soldering)!
Nice video with full of information! Thanks a lot! I love the tiny Pico, so i have two Picos now: One factory original from the second batch with 2S LiPo and the better one with 3S. BUT: I think what you have suggested is just the half way done, so I decided to build a complete new pico with the new 20A controller, 3S 450mAh LiPo, 1103-8000kV motors and a clear whoop duct (because it is more sturdy). One problem had to be solved: "Better" motors have a 4-hole mounting pattern, so you need a custom frame. At present it seems that there are only two suppliers which have the modified frames in carbon (!) for sale. One in India and one in Germany. PS: Of course you go over the weight mark of 100gr. My 3S version is 126gr. now.
That custom build sounds awesome, I really like the idea of the 8000kv motors on 3s. Mine weighed 104g even with stock battery, but that includes external crossfire + Flyoo ND filter. Have you see the new Pavo Pico 20? Seems pretty close to what you just built up, i.e., the perfect 3s setup! 😁
Good hint about the o rings at this spot, i will try it out. I love that little one, but i really wish to get better footage out of it (more stable, less jello). It improved already, but i am not completely happy with it yet, but i got a feeling, that i will have the perfect one.
Ah but i also have one request for your future videos: could you make the background of the subs not black, but only grey and see-through? Many important things in the video, I couldn't see, like text behind the subs and the weight on the scale... other than that, everything well done!
Hey Heiko, thanks a lot for watching! Glad the 0-ring worked out for you, make sure to tighten down firmly otherwise you will add some wobble to the camera. About the subs, I can't change the background color, that's a TH-cam default, but you can turn them off if they bother you. Click that little "gear" icon and see what options you get. Thanks again!
That's good to know! I feel like around 100-110g all up weight is where this little whoop flies best, at 120g and over (with my 3s 450 its 121g) it feels a little heavy, e.g., cannot recover from any hard dives, but still cruises fine.
This is literally the best video out there on the pavo pico v2 and how to avoid jello! I'm currently flying it in the winter winds (not fun) and still jello-free! I followed your instructions exactly. I do have one problem though, as per one of your comments I got the GNB 3s 380mah and they don't behave properly. I capped the motors at 70 or 73% and I can confirm it automatically switches to 3S mode. but when I fly outdoors with these batteries it asks me to land immediately after take off, I consume it to "land now". when I place them on the charger after that the charge is usually 3.92! Are you sure you did not forget something else in your setup for 3S? Unfortunately, I don't have another 3S type to try. Indoors I can fly them around 1.5 minutes.
Hey thanks for watch and thanks for your comment! Do you have the Pavo Pivo "batch 2" or the Pavo 20? It sounds like those batteries may be bad because there is always voltage sag, meaning the voltage sags under load, or when you are flying, and then it comes back up when not under load, i.e., after you land, but what you are experiencing is too much to be normal, and reminds me of how batteries behave when they're super old. Did you buy them from Amazon by chance? If so, return them assuming you are within the window, and grab something else, you might try some 450mah 3s since you had bad luck with those. I'm using 450 3s and I get nice long flights, they're just a tad heavy...
@colibrifpv I have the pavo pico batch 2, I bought it after watching your video. The quad is behaving perfectly in 2S mode across a variety of sizes (gnb 450/530/660) im getting 4mins with the 660. I agree that the two gnb 380mah 3s are not working properly. I bought them new with the quad, I don't think they are a good recommendation the moment. I'll try 450 3s and let you know. Thanks!
Great review. I think I'll grab a V2 and keep my V1 build as a backup. The problem I have had on occasion is not so much the video just stopping, but the OSD telemetry freezing. Then if you don't notice in time, you do indeed get below the needed voltage and lose video. I did add a standalone 5g vifly beeper to mine for outdoor flying because of the expensive camera system on such a tiny quad.
Thanks for sharing your experience Kurtz, I was wondering about that... Yeah, I wouldn't fly too far or over water on the Pavo Pico, you DO NOT want to lose that DJI O3! The Pavo 20 also looks like a pretty promising option, same as the V2 but with slightly larger props, so should fly a bit longer.
@@colibrifpv That's another reason to grab the V2, enough uarts to install a tiny m10 gps if you decide to fly over water. As for the Pavo 20, I was looking at it until I saw on a few videos that it has the props in view. I also asked myself why I am buying the Pico in the first place, which is for cinematic indoor flight and very close proximity to people. For that purpose, at least for me, smaller is better and under powered is actually a plus. I just built a Speedybee B35 which is far superior for outdoor cinematic and will easily carry a gopro 11 mini. The only other 03 quad I have is a 3" that I converted from a Crux35 which weighs 145g dry with a gps and beeper. Still looking for a similar 3" frame with the stacked mount but with no props in view. Until I find it, I have to zoom to keep props out on that quad. I'm happy with Vistas on any quad that is big enough to carry a gopro. I watched a few more of your videos and subscribed. You do a great job with reviews and comparisons.
Have you looked at the new Pavo 2.5 V2? I have the original Pavo 25 and it's pretty good, but it looks like the p25v2 has larger motors, can take any digital vtx you want, and can carry a GoPro Bones... Thanks a lot for the feedback Kurtz, really appreciate it! @@kurtzFPV
Something you might want to mention to folks if you do any more vids on the v2 is how vulnerable to damage the PCB is. Mine broke after a very light crash on the carpet on like the second battery. At first I lost the USB connection and after a few more plugins, the main power. That little tab supporting the USB and main power cable is thin and the heavy cable is attached to the very end of it. Any stress on the cable and there will be problems. If I had it to do again, I'd very securely zip tie the battery cable before the tab to minimize stress. As for me, it is too late and I'm in for another $70 and the replacement aio is damn sure not this one.
That's really good to know Kurtz, thanks for sharing your experience. I've burnt out FC's on other BEtaFPV quads but fortunately not this one. Hope you are able to get it back into the air without too much hassle! @@kurtzFPV
Subbed AND liked, this was a tremendous outlining you did of this cw, now I'm torn between a mob8 and this!! 3S talks loud - but the 'not very durable' observation could be a potential deal-ripper-upper.... But I like to research new investments to the fullest.. but again, wonderful review! 💯
Thanks Paul, appreciate that! I also researched both excessively and concluded that the Pavo Pico is the better smooth flying filming platform and the Mobula 8 is the better ripper... Note the Mobula 8 has bigger props, can probably handle bigger batteries, but has no soft mounting for the camera. As far as durability, I was referring to the Pavo Pico frame; the black one it ships with is brittle and most break it, but replacement frames are like $3.50, so if you go Pico, pick up an extra clear or light blue frame. I've since replaced mine with the light blue and its great! Basically if you want smooth O3 footage, get the Pavo Pico, if you want to rip, get the Mobula 8 🤘
Do you have the OG Pavo Pico? Here's the new AIO board, it's an easy upgrade (plugs) to get that 20a 3s goodness🤘 bit.ly/3Pt2e9Z Here's the new Pavo Pico 20: bit.ly/PPico20
The GEPRC GR1102 1000kw motors are rated 2-3s and has the same mounting holes and diameters. What do you think? Better perfomance and no worrying about burned motors sounds nice.
For digital long range you might want to check out the Flywoo Explorer 4". With the right battery it is under 250g, it has super long flight times, and it gets pretty good reviews. I do not have one so I can't speak from personal experience.
Thanks for the feedback. BetaFPV came out with a newer version of the Pavo Pico (Pico 20) just a few days after I made this video and I assumed most people would want to look at the newest offering available, but maybe I should indicate that more clearly. Thanks for pointing it out.
You might be better off buying the frame kit from BetaFPV, it's very cheap, like $3.50 for the ducts or $9 for the complete frame kit... bit.ly/3ERZm1u
This is a great video thanks, I was getting very frustrated with the extremely limited flight time of the Pico. On the standard 2S 450 Lipos, I only get around 120 seconds of flight time and the battery is literally dead. The batteries did come from China so not sure if they are lemons? I suspect as I was also running them line of site with no way of looking at cell voltage I have killed the lipo's now.
Thanks for watching! If you are only getting 2 min of flight time and killing your lipos there is definitely something wrong with those batteries. Try some BetaFPV 450's or some Tattoo 450's like these ones... amzn.to/3SOCDde. Do you have goggles yet? You should really invest in some digital goggles to get the full benefit of the Pavo Pico and the DJI Integra's have been on sale lately for $350 (I paid much more for mine) amzn.to/3ImtO5m Let me know how it goes!
Hi Rinaldo, thanks for watching! The goggles you have are analog, and the Pavo Pico is only available in digital, so they won't work. BetaFPV makes a drone that is the same size and very similar to the Pavo Pico in digital called the Meteor 75 Pro which is what I would recommend bit.ly/M75pro. Then, when you're ready, you can upgrade to a set of digital goggles! They are much more expensive but the image is much, much better : )
Hey, absolutely! It depends a bit on your budget, the best way to get your feet wet would be the Aquila kit from BetaFPV because it's beginner friendly and you can get the whole setup for $250 [ bit.ly/AQ16 ]. That one purchase gets you everything you need, but as you grow in FPV you will outgrow and replace that gear.... If you are 100% sure you are going to be in FPV for the long run, you might invest in more serious gear, which will last you many years and many drones (sometimes the drone is the cheap part). My recommendation right now would be a set of DJI Integra Goggles (~$500) A Radio Master Boxer radio, Pavo 20, charger, and batteries. That setup will set you back $800+, but it will last you much longer. Let me know how it goes, and if you need any specific recommendations for batteries, chargers, drones, etc. Good luck and welcome to FPV!!!
Hi I’m new to fpv sure I have an avata. But setting up beta flight total new. Is there a video I can follow which it will show me full breakdown on the set up using DJI avata goggles and controllers as my pico would not arm. Also there was a smell when I plugged the battery into the charger “BT2.0 Battery Charger and Voltage Tester V2” before I plugged into the mains?? Is this normal. Sorry just new to it all. Thanks and help is good
No, I am not seeing any prop guards using the DJI O3 camera set to "wide", which is what I fly in. You might see props guards if you set to ultra wide, but I never use that setting.
Hey thanks for that! I get about 4.5 minutes instead of the 3 mins on the stock batteries using CNHL 450 3s, but honestly, those batteries are a little heavy, I would recommend the GNB 3s 380mah amzn.to/3sZJU0C , you'll get longer flight times but the quad will fly better - best of both worlds!
Cam i rin Flyfish 1404 4500KV with a 25A ESC? Is there enough Amps left for like … reserve? Running 3525 X3 Props (4S) From what ive read they are like 18A spike
Well you can, but not on this tiny little whoop frame... those motors are too heavy and those props are too big for this frame. If you are 100% set on the Pavo Pico, I recommend grabbing a prebuilt one, they are not very expensive and it flies super well as long as you keep it light weight... 👉 bit.ly/pavo03 If you want something bigger, I highly recommend the QAV-Pro frames, they have 2" (nano), 2.5" (micro) etc. and are expensive but super good. I have a video on the 2" here 👉 th-cam.com/video/Rxv17lCIQN8/w-d-xo.html.
Ah, gotcha! In that case, yeah those 1404's would be a great replacement for the 1404 Eco's that come with that quad.A 25a is sufficient, I think that's what it comes with, but a slightly heavier duty 30a+ would give you more headroom and probably last longer. Lots of AIO's out there with 30-40a.@@DoktorSkill
Hey, thanks for watching. Yes, you can use DJI FPV controller 2, but for tuning you need to use beta flight. It's super easy, just download the software and plug into your drone's flight controller with USB.
When i do a motor test in beta everything seems to spin correctly and the motors push the direction they should when moving the stick but soon as i try to take off without betaflight hooked up it gies haywire. Ive got the pavo20 not pico
Hey Todd, there are a few things that could be. The props might not bee on right, the motors direction in Beta flight (props in or props out) or the channel map in beta flight. In Betaflight, does the quad move correctly on screen in the receiver tab? If not, that's your problem. If so, it's the props...
@@colibrifpv moves correctly in betaflight, yaw pitch and roll, props are correct and it's props in, motors spun correctly before I fixed the gyro but flipped on takeoff, now that I fixed the gyro I get no throttle and the the opposite motors spin when trying to pitck/roll on the ground and they try to push down instead of up, when hooked to betaflight the motors all spin correctly. I tried the motor test and clicked all the motors that were spinning in the test and even tried it with the remote in betaflight and it's all correct until I unhook it from the computer
HI there, all these FPV drones have what's called angle mode, which keeps the drone level, but that is not the same as position hold on a DJI drone, it will still drift, especially with any wind. Flying FPV is a skill that needs to be learned, i.e., you should start on a simulator to prevent expensive crashes, but it's super fun once you master the basics!!!
Hey there, yes, you do want to get into Betaflight to set things up. The learning curve is pretty steep when you first get into FPV, so don't get discouraged if it takes a good long while to get your first quad set up, because it will be way easier second time around 😊 You will want to get familiar with Joshua Bardwell, he has some excellent beginner-focuses tutorials on his channel. Also, I highly recommend spending some time in a simulator like liftoff before you actually fly a real FPV drone. Trust me, you'll be glad you did... good luck!!!
@@colibrifpv yes I was just looking for a step by step guide of setting up this pavo pico on beta flight using the avata controller and goggles. I have gone into the program and I think I have it get up. But it did nothing after binding them all up. Just not sure I have it all right in beta flight. Thanks I have looked at Bardwell channel a good bit. But he doesn’t go in settings up the drone in beta flight when he test it out . Sorry for the hassle
Hi i would like to try to upgrade may pavo 20 to a 4s version I saw that there is discussion on the matter, but the fc is 2-3 s Do I have to replace it and which model do you recommend?
Hey there, thanks for watching! If you were going to upgrade your Pavo20 to 4s, you might consider just building one up with a stack + motor combo that would be suitable for 4s. The Pavo 20 was really designed for 2s, and it can fly on 3s, but 4s would be pushing the factory components too far... better to fly it as designed, or go for a custom 4s build...
Excellent coverage, thanks. I just got a V2 PP and O3 Air Unit. I updated the onboard ELRS to 3.3 using WiFi method and have it all bound and configured to my new Pocket ELRS radio on 3.3 as well. All the modes are setup and I did a few LOS test hops to make sure it was flying right. Odd thing is my O3 air unit does not appear to be powering on when I plug in the Lipo. No lights on the air unit. I verified the connector was seated on both ends and the pin out looks correct based on the drawings. I activated it fine using USB plug and I can see the unit and FW version in the DJI software. It's like the FC 9v is not working or the cable has some bad pins.... Any ideas?
THanks for watching Mike! That's too bad to hear that your AU is not powering up. It sounds like it has to be the cable/plug because if the AU is not powering up, it's not getting power. I would remove the cable and examine it closely, those things are finicky and there is a chance one of the pins is not seated correctly. If cable looks good, it's the plug, and you are going to have to solder onto the FC. The exact same thing happened to my with a Foxeer FC.... DJI plug never worked but I soldered directly to FC and it worked fine. How are you at soldering? If you solder well, there are pads available you can use. If you are not comfortable soldering, contact BetaFPV support, they should send you out a new one.
73% is just my preference after playing around with it a little bit, but feel free to set it higher or lower according to your preferences. For what it's worth, even though 67% would be equivalent 2s KV, it felt underpowered for me, likely due to the extra weight I was carrying with those larger batteries, 70% felt like equivalent KV (the point where the extra weight was offset by the extra KV) and 73% felt like it had just a tad more pep while still being efficient for long flight times. I've also run 75% and hardly noticed it difference : )
Hey thanks for watching! Sure thing - flight time on a 450mah 3s is about 4.5 minutes, which is heavily dependent on your flying style and the condition (age) of your batteries. What I mean by flying "worse" is that the Pico was deigned to be ultra lightweight at around 100g... as you add weight in the form of larger, heavier batteries, those motors will struggle and the quad is not as maneuverable or nimble in the air. It's hard to put into words, but a lighter quad will typically fly better than a heavier one...
@@colibrifpv ty! for the response. Have you flown with the prop guards removed? I wonder how much would that help with a 3s battery to improve performance. Also with a 3s battery you would need to change the motors and the props for better performance? what is the flight time with a 2s battery and what are voltages to set for 2s and 3s batteries? since I'm a newbie to the fpv world therefore a lot of questions are popping up. hope you'll understand :)
No I have not flown the Pavo Pico without the prop guards, but I would think it would fly much better without the weight and hindrance, although those props would break super quickly in any sort of crash or rough landing. Honestly, I don't "rip" with the Pico because I don't want to kill my O3, I just cruise, and for that style of flying the prop guards don't bother me much.@@FaisalSultan-n1f
I purchased the 12A Pavo Pico before the 2nd version came out so I'm a little bummed lol. But would it be worth it to switch out the 12A FC for the 20A one for the extra $50?
hi there sorry now just wanted to make sure i am 100 per cent right these are the batteries you have in the video? and the battery will go in the same as the betafpv battery that comes with it with no changes to the drone. as the betafpv will take a mth to get to me where i am living. thanks for your help .CNHL MiniStar 450mAh 7.4V 2S 70C Lipo Battery with XT30U
Hi, yes those batteries will fit, but they are slightly thicker so you can just cut the battery tray. By snipping the plastic battery tray, leaving it otherwise intact, it will be able to spread and will accept those thicker batteries no problem. If you prefer not to DIY, just get the betafpv batteries or the Tattoo brand, they both fit in with no mod required 👍
@@colibrifpv thanks you very much. Would you recommend any battery charger? As the one I got off betafpv does work. It was 2S Battery Charger and Voltage Tester colour black type c charger
If you are just getting started maybe just use the usb-c charger, but if you are seriously about FPV you should get a quality charger because it will serve all of your hobby needs for years in the future... I would recommend something like this ISDT charger with a built-in power supply and two channels [amzn.to/48TqBGK] Note there are cheaper and more expensive options available but ISDT is a pretty solid brand.@@beedroneinsta
Hey, thanks for watching! Yes, the Pavo Pico would be a great drone to stat with. If you are new, you will need Radio, Goggles, then Drone. You might as well start with digital versus analog - the investment will be a little steep but worth it in the end. I recommend that you start by buying the ELRS RadioMaster Boxer radio [amzn.to/3RPt2E1] Then you can use the radio with a simulator like Liftoff to learn to fly with the radio. After many hour in the sim, consider the DJI Integra Goggles [amzn.to/3LSlEUz]. It is arguably the best system on the market right now. After that you could pick up a Pavo Pico + A DJI Air Unit. I know, it's a lot 😆
Hey there, I'm getting about 3-4 minutes on a 2s battery and 4-6 minutes on a 3s battery. 2s 450-550mah or 3s 350-450mah is the sweet spot, you can use larger batteries but it doesn't fly as well...
A very informative video specially for a beginner like me. Can i ask a quick question? I just recently purchased the pavo pico batch1 with EXLR receiver, will the Tango 2 remote be compatible with it or the DJI controller 2? I only know those 2 options,. Thank you so much sir
Hi Anthony, thanks a lot for that! If you are new to FPV there is a lot of new information at first but it all starts to make sense after a while. There are different radio protocols you can use and you have to match the same protocol on your tx (radio) and your rx (receiver, in this case built into drone). Your Tango 2 remote uses crossfire, and you can't use that unless you have the Pavo Pico with the crossfire receiver installed, or if you add one. All of these have ELRS built in, but in order to use it, you need an ELRS capable radio, or you need to add an ELRS module to your radio. That leaves the DJI controller.... YES, you can totally bind your DJI controller to the DJI Air Unit, and that's what you should probably do sine you already have the radio, but if you are going to be in this hobby long-term I recommend getting an ELRS radio. They are not too expensive and offer a better, more reliable connection. There are lots of videos on how to bind your DJI radio to the O3, here's one. Good luck!!! th-cam.com/video/I2nv5_BYppY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=21n1t5LegehubO3k
Hey Carlos, thanks for watching! Did you set a motor output limit in Betaflight? If so, then no, those batteries are a tad too heavy, but should work. If not, then yeah, the quad and it's motors are setup for 2s, and without limiting the output to the motors I think its too much for that kv. Time to upgrade those motors?!
@@colibrifpv yes I did set the out put limit to 73%, I don’t know what happened 😅 I will look in to some new motors, do you have any suggestion? Thanks 🙏🏻
tengo una consulta, hay baterias LIHV (4´35v) 2s de 850. solo pesa 10g. mas que las 450 (4´20v) originales de Betafpv... la 450 betafpv son 28g y la GNB 850 son 38g. no se veria pesado, no?
Tienes razón en fijar en el peso de las baterías, en los micros hay un gran ventaja en cargar hasta 4.35v.... de mi perspectiva, para 10g más, totalmente vale le pena y los tiempos de vuelo serían mucho mejor. PQ no buscar las mismas baterías LIHV en 650mah?
Si fuera mi decisión, yo optaría para el 650mah... el Pavo Pico vuela súper bien cuando el liviano, y decente con más peso. PQ no 2x650mah y 2x850mah? Los 850mah para filmar y volar lento, y el 650 para vuelos agresivos? Y si optas por el Pavo20 en el futuro ya tienes baterías 😁@@OneEyeFpvMad
Gracias, ya tengo un cinebot30, un speedybee bee35 y un speedybee máster 5... El pavo solo es para vuelo tranquilo en espacios pequeños y urbanos (leyes españolas)... Prefiero vuelos largos y tranquilos 😉😉
Do you mean 2s or 3s? With 2s I get about 3 min and with 3s I get about 4:30. Add a little bit for a slow cruising flight or subtract 30 seconds for a fast aggressive flight.
Hello, I bought a Pavo 20. Before installing O3, I was flying with 2-cell and 3-cell batteries without any problem. But after installing O3, it does not fly at all with 2-cell batteries, and with 3-cell batteries, it flies at 90% throttle and with difficulty. where is the problem from ? I have a 2 cell battery : tattu 450mah 75c and a 3 cell battery : boslipo 650mah 95c
You mentioned you were flying well without any problems... what VTX were you flying with? It's probably weight, I assume the O3 is much heavier than what you were using before. Why don't you use the factory tune, since it was setup for the O3? On BetaFPV's website you can find the CLI file you need.
Thanks for that! Honestly, I can't say for sure but I know Betafpv has versions caddix vista and it's the same form factor, right? Also the BEC is plenty beefy to accommodate the O3 so power should not be a problem, and both Pavos will acept a 19mm or 20mm camera. If you get the Pavo20 I am almost positive it would work, but I honestly can't say 100% and don't want to steer you wrong. Here's the Pavo 20 to find out more: bit.ly/PPico20
Hey Christopher, good question... I didn't include flight times because many of my batteries are super old, but in general I think you can expect 3 minutes on the stock 2s 450mah and about 4 minutes on a 2s 650mah. I'm getting a solid 4 and a half min on my 3s 450mah, but it feels heavy and I prefer how it flies on something lighter. If I were shopping for batteries today, I would get the GNB 3s 380mah -[amzn.to/3rp4WVY] best of both worlds and the shape fits nicely!
Великолепно изложена настройка профилей в ПИДе и сохранение моторов!! При много Благодарен за такое Красивое Решение, с демострацией его технического воплощения. Excellent explanation of setting up PID profiles and saving motors!! I am very grateful for such a Beautiful Solution, with a demonstration of its technical implementation.👍👍✌✌
Hey Adam, not exactly, Pavo20 is a separate product, which has 2" (51mm) propellers. The original Pavo Paco has 1.6" (45mm) props, and that product was updated shortly after release, hence the "Version 2" or "batch 2". If you are looking at this today, both come with the new electronics, you just decide if you want the smaller or larger version... I would recommend the Pavo 20, it will fly better and have longer flight times 👉 bit.ly/PPico20
I don't have the Flylense so I can't say, but I did really like this PavoPico, one of the best fun fliers for taking out to the park without bothering anybody!
@colibrifpv That's using a Beta FPV micro 915 receiver. The antenna 5.8 that comes in the Pablo Pico kit. There's just one of them and then a walksdale MQ8 with compass just all foiled copper foiled up and stuck to the top. But I really do wanna try. 1103's like 8000 key KB and just run 3S. Cause the video believer or not is better on 3S. And the other thing, too, is most of the wires that come in connector kits. You really need to double ona if you're gonna use 1200 mW. Same thing with the receiver. I don't know why I think it's the telemetry output but it needs juice lots of juice. I thought it was the 915 goggles bug, you know, HD 0 walk snow blanken out the transmitted or whatever the video link, but I don't end. It just wasn't getting that the wires were getting warm, but it's that way. Nowadays, aside from a microscope, the best thing you can buy is a thermal camera, even cheap one for electronics repair.
Nice, sounds like an awesome build! I am really tempted to try out walksnail, but haven't taken the leap since I already have so many quads with DJI Vistas, DJI O3's, and anolog... hard to justify a 4th set of goggles 😁@@sullytrny
@colibrifpv I don't care what video anybody flies, I got what I got because it was cheap. I got the first batch of the VRX. but the best thing about these little things is they go/plow right through the trees' smaller branches that a 3.5in ProTek35 4s will get snarled in. Flying Tank. And loving 3s 450 on 90% scaled throttle and 77% 550mah
I asked iflight support and they said not to run 3s on it… The board is rated for 3s but the motors aren’t. Don’t tell people to run 3s on the stock motors because they will burn them up
Hey there, you need to actually WATCH the video because I said almost exactly that😉- if you just plug in a 3s battery you are likely to burn out or at least shorten the life of those 14000kv motors... the easiest way to run 3s safely on the Pavo Pico is to run a motor output limit in Betaflight - I made a chapter starting at 3:16 called "How to run 3s battery safely with a motor output limit", so I did address this issue. I do sincerely appreciate your feedback, but please watch the video before commenting, and tell me if I missed anything 😁
Hey Damian, I'm really sorry to hear that. Unfortunately, that happens in this hobby, it's definitely happened to me! WHy don't you contact BetaFPV support to see if they can work out a deal for you, maybe a discount on a new FC? Also, since you probably had V1, the V2 flight controller is more powerful (20a instead of 12a) and will get you all of the batch 2 upgrades and it might be worth it! Check it out and bring your Pico back to life 🤙 bit.ly/3Pt2e9Z
Video comparing Pavo20 vs Pavo Pico 👉 th-cam.com/video/ZSISCgyI2s4/w-d-xo.html
This is one of the best TH-cam videos I've seen in a very long time!! Thank you!
Thanks a lot Aaron, I really appreciate that!
thanks for the updated review! with the 3s board, I might need to grab it, just hope the US sites are shipping batch 2
I'm sure US sellers are shipping the updated version because batch 1 sold out pretty fast. You do want to check just in case though, it would suck to buy the old board at this point! Also check out the Pavo 20, it came out after I did this video and it looks like a nice option too bit.ly/PPico20
I was originally set on the pavo20, but the frame is out of stock nearly everywhere stateside. Maybe if they drop a v.2 4s aio lol@@colibrifpv
asked Pyrodrone and they said they're selling the newest.@@colibrifpv
The best advice seems to be about he camera o-ring dampeners, I bought and added transparent silicone ones. Zero jello, even in goggles. Thanks! (Pavo Pico batch2)
That great to hear that it worked out for you! In my case I didn't cinch down those screws enough the first time, and got bad results initially, then I cinched it down better so it wasn't moving around so much and it worked out well.
I’m going to give this a go. Really good idea.
Great, hope it works out for you!@@LenZFPV
Thank you! Just what I looked for!
I'm so glad it was helpful, thanks a lot for watching!
Great video! I was wondering about the second batch with the updated 20A. Thanks!
Yeah I was tempted by the Pavo Pico but didn't bite... then when they came out with the new version is was all over it 😁
I flew a v1 and burned mi ESC so easily.... I'm happy that the version 2 this issue was solved.
It does seem like the ESC in the first AIO wasn't beefy enough, I've also heard of people having brownouts when their 2s lipos get low. The good news is that the new AIO board (bit.ly/3Pt2e9Z) isn't that expensive and is an easy upgrade, just plugs, no soldering)!
Timestamps:
1:34 What's new in batch 2
3:16 How to run 3s battery safely with a motor output limit
4:46 Setting up 2s +3s profiles in Betaflight
6:07 Choosing batteries
9:21 Tips for preventing jello
11:00 Conclusion - how it flies on 2s and 3s
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Pavo Pico 20 👉 bit.ly/PPico20
Pavo Pico Battery 👉 bit.ly/BFPV2s
*V2 AIO (upgrade your original Pavo Pico) bit.ly/3Pt2e9Z
Velcro ties (lightweight bat. strap) 👉 amzn.to/3PMD5Zm
2s 450 BetaFPV lipo 👉 amzn.to/46dNnXF
2s 450 Tattoo lipo 👉 amzn.to/3EHy6Tp
3s 380 lipo (lightweight) 👉 amzn.to/3sZJU0C
3s 450 lipo (heavy) 👉 amzn.to/44UtYtH
Nice video with full of information! Thanks a lot!
I love the tiny Pico, so i have two Picos now: One factory original from the second batch with 2S LiPo and the better one with 3S. BUT: I think what you have suggested is just the half way done, so I decided to build a complete new pico with the new 20A controller, 3S 450mAh LiPo, 1103-8000kV motors and a clear whoop duct (because it is more sturdy). One problem had to be solved: "Better" motors have a 4-hole mounting pattern, so you need a custom frame. At present it seems that there are only two suppliers which have the modified frames in carbon (!) for sale. One in India and one in Germany.
PS: Of course you go over the weight mark of 100gr. My 3S version is 126gr. now.
That custom build sounds awesome, I really like the idea of the 8000kv motors on 3s. Mine weighed 104g even with stock battery, but that includes external crossfire + Flyoo ND filter. Have you see the new Pavo Pico 20? Seems pretty close to what you just built up, i.e., the perfect 3s setup! 😁
Great vid, helpful!
I'm really glad to hear that, thanks a lot 🙏
Good hint about the o rings at this spot, i will try it out. I love that little one, but i really wish to get better footage out of it (more stable, less jello). It improved already, but i am not completely happy with it yet, but i got a feeling, that i will have the perfect one.
Ah but i also have one request for your future videos: could you make the background of the subs not black, but only grey and see-through? Many important things in the video, I couldn't see, like text behind the subs and the weight on the scale... other than that, everything well done!
Hey Heiko, thanks a lot for watching! Glad the 0-ring worked out for you, make sure to tighten down firmly otherwise you will add some wobble to the camera. About the subs, I can't change the background color, that's a TH-cam default, but you can turn them off if they bother you. Click that little "gear" icon and see what options you get. Thanks again!
I’m using a 750mah 2s and it flys pretty well but you do feel the weight
That's good to know! I feel like around 100-110g all up weight is where this little whoop flies best, at 120g and over (with my 3s 450 its 121g) it feels a little heavy, e.g., cannot recover from any hard dives, but still cruises fine.
This is literally the best video out there on the pavo pico v2 and how to avoid jello! I'm currently flying it in the winter winds (not fun) and still jello-free! I followed your instructions exactly. I do have one problem though, as per one of your comments I got the GNB 3s 380mah and they don't behave properly. I capped the motors at 70 or 73% and I can confirm it automatically switches to 3S mode. but when I fly outdoors with these batteries it asks me to land immediately after take off, I consume it to "land now". when I place them on the charger after that the charge is usually 3.92! Are you sure you did not forget something else in your setup for 3S? Unfortunately, I don't have another 3S type to try. Indoors I can fly them around 1.5 minutes.
Hey thanks for watch and thanks for your comment! Do you have the Pavo Pivo "batch 2" or the Pavo 20? It sounds like those batteries may be bad because there is always voltage sag, meaning the voltage sags under load, or when you are flying, and then it comes back up when not under load, i.e., after you land, but what you are experiencing is too much to be normal, and reminds me of how batteries behave when they're super old. Did you buy them from Amazon by chance? If so, return them assuming you are within the window, and grab something else, you might try some 450mah 3s since you had bad luck with those. I'm using 450 3s and I get nice long flights, they're just a tad heavy...
@colibrifpv I have the pavo pico batch 2, I bought it after watching your video. The quad is behaving perfectly in 2S mode across a variety of sizes (gnb 450/530/660) im getting 4mins with the 660. I agree that the two gnb 380mah 3s are not working properly. I bought them new with the quad, I don't think they are a good recommendation the moment. I'll try 450 3s and let you know. Thanks!
I'm sorry to hear that those 380mah lipos are not working out for you. If you got them from Amazon, return them. @@HamdiR
Very helpful and indepth guide. Thank you.
Thanks a lot for that, really appreciate your support 😁
Great review. I think I'll grab a V2 and keep my V1 build as a backup. The problem I have had on occasion is not so much the video just stopping, but the OSD telemetry freezing. Then if you don't notice in time, you do indeed get below the needed voltage and lose video. I did add a standalone 5g vifly beeper to mine for outdoor flying because of the expensive camera system on such a tiny quad.
Thanks for sharing your experience Kurtz, I was wondering about that... Yeah, I wouldn't fly too far or over water on the Pavo Pico, you DO NOT want to lose that DJI O3! The Pavo 20 also looks like a pretty promising option, same as the V2 but with slightly larger props, so should fly a bit longer.
@@colibrifpv That's another reason to grab the V2, enough uarts to install a tiny m10 gps if you decide to fly over water. As for the Pavo 20, I was looking at it until I saw on a few videos that it has the props in view. I also asked myself why I am buying the Pico in the first place, which is for cinematic indoor flight and very close proximity to people. For that purpose, at least for me, smaller is better and under powered is actually a plus. I just built a Speedybee B35 which is far superior for outdoor cinematic and will easily carry a gopro 11 mini. The only other 03 quad I have is a 3" that I converted from a Crux35 which weighs 145g dry with a gps and beeper. Still looking for a similar 3" frame with the stacked mount but with no props in view. Until I find it, I have to zoom to keep props out on that quad. I'm happy with Vistas on any quad that is big enough to carry a gopro. I watched a few more of your videos and subscribed. You do a great job with reviews and comparisons.
Have you looked at the new Pavo 2.5 V2? I have the original Pavo 25 and it's pretty good, but it looks like the p25v2 has larger motors, can take any digital vtx you want, and can carry a GoPro Bones... Thanks a lot for the feedback Kurtz, really appreciate it! @@kurtzFPV
Something you might want to mention to folks if you do any more vids on the v2 is how vulnerable to damage the PCB is. Mine broke after a very light crash on the carpet on like the second battery. At first I lost the USB connection and after a few more plugins, the main power. That little tab supporting the USB and main power cable is thin and the heavy cable is attached to the very end of it. Any stress on the cable and there will be problems. If I had it to do again, I'd very securely zip tie the battery cable before the tab to minimize stress. As for me, it is too late and I'm in for another $70 and the replacement aio is damn sure not this one.
That's really good to know Kurtz, thanks for sharing your experience. I've burnt out FC's on other BEtaFPV quads but fortunately not this one. Hope you are able to get it back into the air without too much hassle!
@@kurtzFPV
Subbed AND liked, this was a tremendous outlining you did of this cw, now I'm torn between a mob8 and this!! 3S talks loud - but the 'not very durable' observation could be a potential deal-ripper-upper....
But I like to research new investments to the fullest.. but again, wonderful review! 💯
Thanks Paul, appreciate that! I also researched both excessively and concluded that the Pavo Pico is the better smooth flying filming platform and the Mobula 8 is the better ripper... Note the Mobula 8 has bigger props, can probably handle bigger batteries, but has no soft mounting for the camera. As far as durability, I was referring to the Pavo Pico frame; the black one it ships with is brittle and most break it, but replacement frames are like $3.50, so if you go Pico, pick up an extra clear or light blue frame. I've since replaced mine with the light blue and its great! Basically if you want smooth O3 footage, get the Pavo Pico, if you want to rip, get the Mobula 8 🤘
Do you have the OG Pavo Pico? Here's the new AIO board, it's an easy upgrade (plugs) to get that 20a 3s goodness🤘 bit.ly/3Pt2e9Z
Here's the new Pavo Pico 20: bit.ly/PPico20
i plan to do a naked 03 pico with 300mah 2s batteries
That sounds awesome, the Pavo Pico flies great when it's lightweight, you'll have a blast with that build!
The GEPRC GR1102 1000kw motors are rated 2-3s and has the same mounting holes and diameters. What do you think? Better perfomance and no worrying about burned motors sounds nice.
Sounds like a perfect fit, I say go for it 😁
Does there exist any digital long range kit beneeth 250g as a better choice than the avata?
For digital long range you might want to check out the Flywoo Explorer 4". With the right battery it is under 250g, it has super long flight times, and it gets pretty good reviews. I do not have one so I can't speak from personal experience.
Great video really helpful.
Thanks a lot for watching, glad it was useful 👍
Really awesome, informative video. But the first link in the description is to a different drone. That's super misleading. Besides that, great job!
Thanks for the feedback. BetaFPV came out with a newer version of the Pavo Pico (Pico 20) just a few days after I made this video and I assumed most people would want to look at the newest offering available, but maybe I should indicate that more clearly. Thanks for pointing it out.
Can you share the link where i can buy the 3d files ?
You might be better off buying the frame kit from BetaFPV, it's very cheap, like $3.50 for the ducts or $9 for the complete frame kit... bit.ly/3ERZm1u
This is a great video thanks, I was getting very frustrated with the extremely limited flight time of the Pico. On the standard 2S 450 Lipos, I only get around 120 seconds of flight time and the battery is literally dead. The batteries did come from China so not sure if they are lemons? I suspect as I was also running them line of site with no way of looking at cell voltage I have killed the lipo's now.
Thanks for watching! If you are only getting 2 min of flight time and killing your lipos there is definitely something wrong with those batteries. Try some BetaFPV 450's or some Tattoo 450's like these ones... amzn.to/3SOCDde. Do you have goggles yet? You should really invest in some digital goggles to get the full benefit of the Pavo Pico and the DJI Integra's have been on sale lately for $350 (I paid much more for mine) amzn.to/3ImtO5m Let me know how it goes!
Hi, your video is very good. I have a Cetu X i'd like to know I can to use my googles to pilot o Pavo 20. Can you help me?
Hi Rinaldo, thanks for watching! The goggles you have are analog, and the Pavo Pico is only available in digital, so they won't work. BetaFPV makes a drone that is the same size and very similar to the Pavo Pico in digital called the Meteor 75 Pro which is what I would recommend bit.ly/M75pro. Then, when you're ready, you can upgrade to a set of digital goggles! They are much more expensive but the image is much, much better : )
I would like to start the hobby and am looking for a complete package with the Pavo Pico, batteries, remote control and glasses. can you help?
Hey, absolutely! It depends a bit on your budget, the best way to get your feet wet would be the Aquila kit from BetaFPV because it's beginner friendly and you can get the whole setup for $250 [ bit.ly/AQ16 ]. That one purchase gets you everything you need, but as you grow in FPV you will outgrow and replace that gear.... If you are 100% sure you are going to be in FPV for the long run, you might invest in more serious gear, which will last you many years and many drones (sometimes the drone is the cheap part). My recommendation right now would be a set of DJI Integra Goggles (~$500) A Radio Master Boxer radio, Pavo 20, charger, and batteries. That setup will set you back $800+, but it will last you much longer. Let me know how it goes, and if you need any specific recommendations for batteries, chargers, drones, etc. Good luck and welcome to FPV!!!
Hi I’m new to fpv sure I have an avata. But setting up beta flight total new. Is there a video I can follow which it will show me full breakdown on the set up using DJI avata goggles and controllers as my pico would not arm. Also there was a smell when I plugged the battery into the charger “BT2.0 Battery Charger and Voltage Tester V2” before I plugged into the mains?? Is this normal. Sorry just new to it all. Thanks and help is good
Merci beaucoup pour ce vidéo et pour les super conseils 👏👏👏👏
De rien, merci d'avoir regardé. Je suis content que cela ait été utile. N'oubliez pas de jeter un œil au nouveau Pavo20, il a l'air intéressant ☺
You Still can see the prop guard while camera is straight?
No, I am not seeing any prop guards using the DJI O3 camera set to "wide", which is what I fly in. You might see props guards if you set to ultra wide, but I never use that setting.
Excellent informative video, thanks for taking the time to make it.
My one question is how much extra flight time do you get with a 3s?
Hey thanks for that! I get about 4.5 minutes instead of the 3 mins on the stock batteries using CNHL 450 3s, but honestly, those batteries are a little heavy, I would recommend the GNB 3s 380mah amzn.to/3sZJU0C , you'll get longer flight times but the quad will fly better - best of both worlds!
Cam i rin Flyfish 1404 4500KV with a 25A ESC? Is there enough Amps left for like … reserve? Running 3525 X3 Props (4S)
From what ive read they are like 18A spike
Well you can, but not on this tiny little whoop frame... those motors are too heavy and those props are too big for this frame. If you are 100% set on the Pavo Pico, I recommend grabbing a prebuilt one, they are not very expensive and it flies super well as long as you keep it light weight... 👉 bit.ly/pavo03 If you want something bigger, I highly recommend the QAV-Pro frames, they have 2" (nano), 2.5" (micro) etc. and are expensive but super good. I have a video on the 2" here 👉 th-cam.com/video/Rxv17lCIQN8/w-d-xo.html.
@@colibrifpv sorry, im running the babyhawk o3, and looking for new motors
Ah, gotcha! In that case, yeah those 1404's would be a great replacement for the 1404 Eco's that come with that quad.A 25a is sufficient, I think that's what it comes with, but a slightly heavier duty 30a+ would give you more headroom and probably last longer. Lots of AIO's out there with 30-40a.@@DoktorSkill
hi buddy. can this be controlled with a dji fpv 2 controller and tune expo through the goggles or only beta flight tuning?
Hey, thanks for watching. Yes, you can use DJI FPV controller 2, but for tuning you need to use beta flight. It's super easy, just download the software and plug into your drone's flight controller with USB.
@@colibrifpv okay i will. thanks. will just get the tango 2 and use crossfire if so as i prefer that one.
Awesome review! Helped me decide some options I should go with. Thanks, you got a new FPV sub 👊👍👍🇺🇸
I'm glad it helped, thanks a lot for that!
When i do a motor test in beta everything seems to spin correctly and the motors push the direction they should when moving the stick but soon as i try to take off without betaflight hooked up it gies haywire. Ive got the pavo20 not pico
Hey Todd, there are a few things that could be. The props might not bee on right, the motors direction in Beta flight (props in or props out) or the channel map in beta flight. In Betaflight, does the quad move correctly on screen in the receiver tab? If not, that's your problem. If so, it's the props...
@@colibrifpv moves correctly in betaflight, yaw pitch and roll, props are correct and it's props in, motors spun correctly before I fixed the gyro but flipped on takeoff, now that I fixed the gyro I get no throttle and the the opposite motors spin when trying to pitck/roll on the ground and they try to push down instead of up, when hooked to betaflight the motors all spin correctly. I tried the motor test and clicked all the motors that were spinning in the test and even tried it with the remote in betaflight and it's all correct until I unhook it from the computer
@@colibrifpv I got it going! Ended up putting the original cli dump in and it was back up in no time!
Hey Todd, that's great, glad to hear you got it working again! @@Todd_G_FPV
Does this drone have stabilized mode? Should an additional GPS card be connected for this?
HI there, all these FPV drones have what's called angle mode, which keeps the drone level, but that is not the same as position hold on a DJI drone, it will still drift, especially with any wind. Flying FPV is a skill that needs to be learned, i.e., you should start on a simulator to prevent expensive crashes, but it's super fun once you master the basics!!!
Hey there new to all this , just built v2.
Do I have to go into beata fight to configure the drone. Or is the a step by step guide I can follow please
Hey there, yes, you do want to get into Betaflight to set things up. The learning curve is pretty steep when you first get into FPV, so don't get discouraged if it takes a good long while to get your first quad set up, because it will be way easier second time around 😊 You will want to get familiar with Joshua Bardwell, he has some excellent beginner-focuses tutorials on his channel. Also, I highly recommend spending some time in a simulator like liftoff before you actually fly a real FPV drone. Trust me, you'll be glad you did... good luck!!!
@@colibrifpv yes I was just looking for a step by step guide of setting up this pavo pico on beta flight using the avata controller and goggles. I have gone into the program and I think I have it get up. But it did nothing after binding them all up. Just not sure I have it all right in beta flight. Thanks I have looked at Bardwell channel a good bit. But he doesn’t go in settings up the drone in beta flight when he test it out . Sorry for the hassle
Hi i would like to try to upgrade may pavo 20 to a 4s version I saw that there is discussion on the matter, but the fc is 2-3 s Do I have to replace it and which model do you recommend?
Hey there, thanks for watching! If you were going to upgrade your Pavo20 to 4s, you might consider just building one up with a stack + motor combo that would be suitable for 4s. The Pavo 20 was really designed for 2s, and it can fly on 3s, but 4s would be pushing the factory components too far... better to fly it as designed, or go for a custom 4s build...
Excellent coverage, thanks. I just got a V2 PP and O3 Air Unit. I updated the onboard ELRS to 3.3 using WiFi method and have it all bound and configured to my new Pocket ELRS radio on 3.3 as well. All the modes are setup and I did a few LOS test hops to make sure it was flying right. Odd thing is my O3 air unit does not appear to be powering on when I plug in the Lipo. No lights on the air unit. I verified the connector was seated on both ends and the pin out looks correct based on the drawings. I activated it fine using USB plug and I can see the unit and FW version in the DJI software. It's like the FC 9v is not working or the cable has some bad pins.... Any ideas?
THanks for watching Mike! That's too bad to hear that your AU is not powering up. It sounds like it has to be the cable/plug because if the AU is not powering up, it's not getting power. I would remove the cable and examine it closely, those things are finicky and there is a chance one of the pins is not seated correctly. If cable looks good, it's the plug, and you are going to have to solder onto the FC. The exact same thing happened to my with a Foxeer FC.... DJI plug never worked but I soldered directly to FC and it worked fine. How are you at soldering? If you solder well, there are pads available you can use. If you are not comfortable soldering, contact BetaFPV support, they should send you out a new one.
@colibrifpv Good call on bent pins. The VCC+ pin was bent sideways. I carefully repositioned it, and I am back up and running now.
That's great to hear, soldering to tiny boards is a pain, glad you avoided it!@@StealthFlightFPV
Great! Can you tell me why motor limit is 73? Not 70, 75 or 80?
73% is just my preference after playing around with it a little bit, but feel free to set it higher or lower according to your preferences. For what it's worth, even though 67% would be equivalent 2s KV, it felt underpowered for me, likely due to the extra weight I was carrying with those larger batteries, 70% felt like equivalent KV (the point where the extra weight was offset by the extra KV) and 73% felt like it had just a tad more pep while still being efficient for long flight times. I've also run 75% and hardly noticed it difference : )
hi, what is flight time with a 3s battery? with 67%-75% motor output limit. can you elaborate ''the quad will fly worse' with a 3s battery?
Hey thanks for watching! Sure thing - flight time on a 450mah 3s is about 4.5 minutes, which is heavily dependent on your flying style and the condition (age) of your batteries. What I mean by flying "worse" is that the Pico was deigned to be ultra lightweight at around 100g... as you add weight in the form of larger, heavier batteries, those motors will struggle and the quad is not as maneuverable or nimble in the air. It's hard to put into words, but a lighter quad will typically fly better than a heavier one...
@@colibrifpv ty! for the response. Have you flown with the prop guards removed? I wonder how much would that help with a 3s battery to improve performance.
Also with a 3s battery you would need to change the motors and the props for better performance?
what is the flight time with a 2s battery and what are voltages to set for 2s and 3s batteries?
since I'm a newbie to the fpv world therefore a lot of questions are popping up. hope you'll understand :)
No I have not flown the Pavo Pico without the prop guards, but I would think it would fly much better without the weight and hindrance, although those props would break super quickly in any sort of crash or rough landing. Honestly, I don't "rip" with the Pico because I don't want to kill my O3, I just cruise, and for that style of flying the prop guards don't bother me much.@@FaisalSultan-n1f
I purchased the 12A Pavo Pico before the 2nd version came out so I'm a little bummed lol. But would it be worth it to switch out the 12A FC for the 20A one for the extra $50?
I hear you, I've been there. I would say no, it's not worth the upgrade unless your original FC burns out, then of course replace it with the new one.
will this pavo fly with the dji googles 2 as well??
Yes it will, assuming you use the DJI O3 Air Unit, which is compatible with the Goggles 2
hi there sorry now just wanted to make sure i am 100 per cent right these are the batteries you have in the video? and the battery will go in the same as the betafpv battery that comes with it with no changes to the drone. as the betafpv will take a mth to get to me where i am living. thanks for your help .CNHL MiniStar 450mAh 7.4V 2S 70C Lipo Battery with XT30U
Hi, yes those batteries will fit, but they are slightly thicker so you can just cut the battery tray. By snipping the plastic battery tray, leaving it otherwise intact, it will be able to spread and will accept those thicker batteries no problem. If you prefer not to DIY, just get the betafpv batteries or the Tattoo brand, they both fit in with no mod required 👍
@@colibrifpv thanks you very much. Would you recommend any battery charger? As the one I got off betafpv does work. It was 2S Battery Charger and Voltage Tester colour black type c charger
If you are just getting started maybe just use the usb-c charger, but if you are seriously about FPV you should get a quality charger because it will serve all of your hobby needs for years in the future... I would recommend something like this ISDT charger with a built-in power supply and two channels [amzn.to/48TqBGK] Note there are cheaper and more expensive options available but ISDT is a pretty solid brand.@@beedroneinsta
@@colibrifpv thanks for that I’ll look it up
Great video man Lots of info (witch i don't understand xD)
Do you think Pavo pico batch 2 is a good first drone for beginners ? (0 hours of flying) ??
Hey, thanks for watching! Yes, the Pavo Pico would be a great drone to stat with. If you are new, you will need Radio, Goggles, then Drone. You might as well start with digital versus analog - the investment will be a little steep but worth it in the end. I recommend that you start by buying the ELRS RadioMaster Boxer radio [amzn.to/3RPt2E1] Then you can use the radio with a simulator like Liftoff to learn to fly with the radio. After many hour in the sim, consider the DJI Integra Goggles [amzn.to/3LSlEUz]. It is arguably the best system on the market right now. After that you could pick up a Pavo Pico + A DJI Air Unit. I know, it's a lot 😆
hi, what is the flight time for 2s and 3s?
Hey there, I'm getting about 3-4 minutes on a 2s battery and 4-6 minutes on a 3s battery. 2s 450-550mah or 3s 350-450mah is the sweet spot, you can use larger batteries but it doesn't fly as well...
A very informative video specially for a beginner like me. Can i ask a quick question? I just recently purchased the pavo pico batch1 with EXLR receiver, will the Tango 2 remote be compatible with it or the DJI controller 2? I only know those 2 options,. Thank you so much sir
Hi Anthony, thanks a lot for that! If you are new to FPV there is a lot of new information at first but it all starts to make sense after a while. There are different radio protocols you can use and you have to match the same protocol on your tx (radio) and your rx (receiver, in this case built into drone). Your Tango 2 remote uses crossfire, and you can't use that unless you have the Pavo Pico with the crossfire receiver installed, or if you add one. All of these have ELRS built in, but in order to use it, you need an ELRS capable radio, or you need to add an ELRS module to your radio. That leaves the DJI controller.... YES, you can totally bind your DJI controller to the DJI Air Unit, and that's what you should probably do sine you already have the radio, but if you are going to be in this hobby long-term I recommend getting an ELRS radio. They are not too expensive and offer a better, more reliable connection. There are lots of videos on how to bind your DJI radio to the O3, here's one. Good luck!!! th-cam.com/video/I2nv5_BYppY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=21n1t5LegehubO3k
Nice Video man ! congrats !
So I just tried some 3s form CNHL, the 600mah 120c , and I smoked 2 motors. Is this battery to much ?
Hey Carlos, thanks for watching! Did you set a motor output limit in Betaflight? If so, then no, those batteries are a tad too heavy, but should work. If not, then yeah, the quad and it's motors are setup for 2s, and without limiting the output to the motors I think its too much for that kv. Time to upgrade those motors?!
@@colibrifpv yes I did set the out put limit to 73%, I don’t know what happened 😅 I will look in to some new motors, do you have any suggestion? Thanks 🙏🏻
tengo una consulta, hay baterias LIHV (4´35v) 2s de 850. solo pesa 10g. mas que las 450 (4´20v) originales de Betafpv... la 450 betafpv son 28g y la GNB 850 son 38g. no se veria pesado, no?
Tienes razón en fijar en el peso de las baterías, en los micros hay un gran ventaja en cargar hasta 4.35v.... de mi perspectiva, para 10g más, totalmente vale le pena y los tiempos de vuelo serían mucho mejor. PQ no buscar las mismas baterías LIHV en 650mah?
@@colibrifpv la bateria lihv de 660 solo es 3g mas ligera y de tamaño muy similar... no es una gran diferencia de peso
Si fuera mi decisión, yo optaría para el 650mah... el Pavo Pico vuela súper bien cuando el liviano, y decente con más peso. PQ no 2x650mah y 2x850mah? Los 850mah para filmar y volar lento, y el 650 para vuelos agresivos? Y si optas por el Pavo20 en el futuro ya tienes baterías 😁@@OneEyeFpvMad
Gracias, ya tengo un cinebot30, un speedybee bee35 y un speedybee máster 5... El pavo solo es para vuelo tranquilo en espacios pequeños y urbanos (leyes españolas)... Prefiero vuelos largos y tranquilos 😉😉
How long is flight with 450mah ?
Do you mean 2s or 3s? With 2s I get about 3 min and with 3s I get about 4:30. Add a little bit for a slow cruising flight or subtract 30 seconds for a fast aggressive flight.
My thing where to get the camera for the that drone
It's the DJI O3 system. You can buy it anywhere, such as on Amazon amzn.to/3QRXqwd
@@colibrifpv thanks
Hello, I bought a Pavo 20. Before installing O3, I was flying with 2-cell and 3-cell batteries without any problem. But after installing O3, it does not fly at all with 2-cell batteries,
and with 3-cell batteries, it flies at 90% throttle and with difficulty.
where is the problem from ?
I have a 2 cell battery : tattu 450mah 75c
and a 3 cell battery : boslipo 650mah 95c
You mentioned you were flying well without any problems... what VTX were you flying with? It's probably weight, I assume the O3 is much heavier than what you were using before. Why don't you use the factory tune, since it was setup for the O3? On BetaFPV's website you can find the CLI file you need.
Nice complit video thanks Can I use hdzero freestyle v2 kid .?
Thanks for that! Honestly, I can't say for sure but I know Betafpv has versions caddix vista and it's the same form factor, right? Also the BEC is plenty beefy to accommodate the O3 so power should not be a problem, and both Pavos will acept a 19mm or 20mm camera. If you get the Pavo20 I am almost positive it would work, but I honestly can't say 100% and don't want to steer you wrong. Here's the Pavo 20 to find out more: bit.ly/PPico20
What flight times where you getting with the different batteries?
Hey Christopher, good question... I didn't include flight times because many of my batteries are super old, but in general I think you can expect 3 minutes on the stock 2s 450mah and about 4 minutes on a 2s 650mah. I'm getting a solid 4 and a half min on my 3s 450mah, but it feels heavy and I prefer how it flies on something lighter. If I were shopping for batteries today, I would get the GNB 3s 380mah -[amzn.to/3rp4WVY] best of both worlds and the shape fits nicely!
This is super helpful, thank you!!
Glad it helped 👍@@christophermori1967
Does it include vtx in package
Hi there, no, you need to purchase the vtx separately.
Великолепно изложена настройка профилей в ПИДе и сохранение моторов!! При много Благодарен за такое Красивое Решение, с демострацией его технического воплощения. Excellent explanation of setting up PID profiles and saving motors!! I am very grateful for such a Beautiful Solution, with a demonstration of its technical implementation.👍👍✌✌
Thanks a lot for watching, I'm really glad to have your support. Happy flying ☺
Hey, so pavo pico is version 1 and pavo20 is the second version ?
Hey Adam, not exactly, Pavo20 is a separate product, which has 2" (51mm) propellers. The original Pavo Paco has 1.6" (45mm) props, and that product was updated shortly after release, hence the "Version 2" or "batch 2". If you are looking at this today, both come with the new electronics, you just decide if you want the smaller or larger version... I would recommend the Pavo 20, it will fly better and have longer flight times 👉 bit.ly/PPico20
@@colibrifpv thank you very much, will use the link
Is flylens 75 better than pavo pico?
I don't have the Flylense so I can't say, but I did really like this PavoPico, one of the best fun fliers for taking out to the park without bothering anybody!
nice share…
Thank you so much 🙂
Yeah, well what do you know about it guy!!
HaHaHa JK!
That was a lot of great info! Thank You, I really appreciate it. Beautiful video btw...❤
Thanks a lot for watching Bryn, appreciate it!
I put a 722 inav ready mamba aio, 915. 2-3s 550, 5-8 minutes , gps and compass. 107g w/2s
PS, ws v2 32gb
Wow, that's a killer setup, can't believe it still comes in at 107g with the WS VTX. With DJI O3 you would have to get naked to achieve those weights!
@colibrifpv That's using a Beta FPV micro 915 receiver. The antenna 5.8 that comes in the Pablo Pico kit. There's just one of them and then a walksdale MQ8 with compass just all foiled copper foiled up and stuck to the top. But I really do wanna try. 1103's like 8000 key KB and just run 3S. Cause the video believer or not is better on 3S. And the other thing, too, is most of the wires that come in connector kits. You really need to double ona if you're gonna use 1200 mW. Same thing with the receiver. I don't know why I think it's the telemetry output but it needs juice lots of juice. I thought it was the 915 goggles bug, you know, HD 0 walk snow blanken out the transmitted or whatever the video link, but I don't end. It just wasn't getting that the wires were getting warm, but it's that way. Nowadays, aside from a microscope, the best thing you can buy is a thermal camera, even cheap one for electronics repair.
Nice, sounds like an awesome build! I am really tempted to try out walksnail, but haven't taken the leap since I already have so many quads with DJI Vistas, DJI O3's, and anolog... hard to justify a 4th set of goggles 😁@@sullytrny
@colibrifpv I don't care what video anybody flies, I got what I got because it was cheap. I got the first batch of the VRX. but the best thing about these little things is they go/plow right through the trees' smaller branches that a 3.5in ProTek35 4s will get snarled in. Flying Tank. And loving 3s 450 on 90% scaled throttle and 77% 550mah
I agree, these are tons of fun, and the 3s 450mah is also what I fly most, although it is just a tad heavy with full DJI O3...
@@sullytrny
よいですね😉
友よありがとう 😁
I asked iflight support and they said not to run 3s on it…
The board is rated for 3s but the motors aren’t. Don’t tell people to run 3s on the stock motors because they will burn them up
Hey there, you need to actually WATCH the video because I said almost exactly that😉- if you just plug in a 3s battery you are likely to burn out or at least shorten the life of those 14000kv motors... the easiest way to run 3s safely on the Pavo Pico is to run a motor output limit in Betaflight - I made a chapter starting at 3:16 called "How to run 3s battery safely with a motor output limit", so I did address this issue. I do sincerely appreciate your feedback, but please watch the video before commenting, and tell me if I missed anything 😁
I will not buy anything form betafpv
My first pico fc dies in 2 months
Hey Damian, I'm really sorry to hear that. Unfortunately, that happens in this hobby, it's definitely happened to me! WHy don't you contact BetaFPV support to see if they can work out a deal for you, maybe a discount on a new FC? Also, since you probably had V1, the V2 flight controller is more powerful (20a instead of 12a) and will get you all of the batch 2 upgrades and it might be worth it! Check it out and bring your Pico back to life 🤙 bit.ly/3Pt2e9Z
Man the pico is shit, i bulid the pavo20 as a 4s Version. This build is rippin got way over 6 Minutes of fly time. Try it is totally worth it. 😅
Really, 4s on a 2"? 😲 What kv are your motors?
@@colibrifpv jear no Problem 5500kv check out oddityrc xi20 pro, i have this motors.
th-cam.com/video/8bi4U0LA4Fw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=sQZ1SoBeyVskBOsd
I have this motors, and the pavo frame is a littel lighter then the oddityrc frame
Oddityrc spinnybois 5500kv